WEBVTT - “She Definitely Gets Her Steps In”: Our Take on Seeing “Melania”

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks, we just saw the movie that so

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<v Speaker 1>many people were talking about Millennia. This is our very

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<v Speaker 1>carefully worded review with that, welcome to this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Aiming and TJ. Road. I say, everybody was talking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>the President, the big premiere they had at the Kennedy

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<v Speaker 1>Center and all that, and then it wasn't expected to

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<v Speaker 1>do well, and let's give it it's do. It performed

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<v Speaker 1>beyond expectations, made a little lower seven million dollars opening weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big deal for a documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a huge deal for a documentary, even one with

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<v Speaker 2>the hefty price tag that this one had. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they were expecting between three and five million at best,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was north of seven million. Correct, There were

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<v Speaker 2>some astermates to say closer to eight million. So that

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<v Speaker 2>is a wild success for a documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I put that in right context. You hear that

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<v Speaker 1>seven million dollars If it was an Avengers movie, that's

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<v Speaker 1>total bust. This is gangbusters and one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>documentaries we've seen perform in a decade at the box office.

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<v Speaker 1>So that let's give it it's due. Now. The other

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<v Speaker 1>part of it is that in ropes, you have it

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<v Speaker 1>up right now, what's the current Okay, so it has

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<v Speaker 1>been just skewed by the critics out there, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Rotten Tomato scores are hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so the critics score is five percent, that's about

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<v Speaker 2>as low as I've ever seen, and the popcorn meter,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the audience verified reviews or ratings, are at

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine percent.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I say it's hilarious, and that makes perfect sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You go, okay, why is this possible? I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of We see discrepancy. Sometimes the critics are

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<v Speaker 1>at forty five and the audience is at seventy. Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that can't happen. This doesn't happen, and it makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense when you think about it. Maybe don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>think about it that long. Why that be such a discrepancy?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, yes it makes sense, But I also thought,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what are all of these critics? And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you might think people who work in the mainstream media,

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<v Speaker 2>according to our president at least, are all left of

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<v Speaker 2>center and anti administration and anti Trump, and so you

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<v Speaker 2>could start to think, Okay, those critics had an agenda,

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<v Speaker 2>and we obviously leave space for that as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>we wanted to go see for ourselves to have the

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<v Speaker 2>audience love this movie and rave about the movie as

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<v Speaker 2>much as they have, and to see the critics not

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<v Speaker 2>just say this isn't a good film, don't go see it,

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<v Speaker 2>but just disparage it, call it a horror movie, call

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<v Speaker 2>it an abomin nation.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they went off on this film.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, some of that was a little much, and it

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<v Speaker 1>certainly you can understand robes. The people who are in

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<v Speaker 1>the theater, in all likelihood at least who aren't critics

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<v Speaker 1>citizens are probably already fans of Donald Trump and Milania Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>so that would make sense predisposed to like Milania a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>But ninety nine percent versus five percent is just not

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<v Speaker 1>something you see. And this this is the biggest disparity obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen one.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was I think that was really the driving

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<v Speaker 2>reason behind why we knew we had to see this

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<v Speaker 2>movie for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had to see it, and we did some

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<v Speaker 1>context here. You've seen a lot of headlines and some

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<v Speaker 1>places a lot of critics say I went to a

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<v Speaker 1>theater and it was empty, Oh, nobody was there. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they say, yeah, I went to the one at

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln Center on the Upper West side, okay, like duh okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you had reports of places like Dallas at

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<v Speaker 1>whatnot that did have larger crowds in those theaters. We

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<v Speaker 1>went full disclosure in the daytime, in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the week and a weekday, so you wouldn't expect the

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<v Speaker 1>full theater anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time we go to the movies, and it could

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<v Speaker 2>be the biggest blockbuster ever, we always go at like

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<v Speaker 2>the eleven thirty am showing on a Monday, and guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>we're almost always one of the only people in the theater.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was not an exception that the theat was

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<v Speaker 2>mostly empty for us, because that's always what it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like when we choose to go to the movies. There

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<v Speaker 2>were I think I counted for women, and we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>into some of the demographics because they're very interesting. But

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<v Speaker 2>they were all women, and they were all I believe

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<v Speaker 2>age forty.

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<v Speaker 1>And up, and that goes exactly in line with the

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<v Speaker 1>demographics you're going to be talking about. So that sets

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<v Speaker 1>it up. We get in there with our popcorn, literally

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<v Speaker 1>a bucket of popcorn, diapepsy diapeps in the water, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's take this thing in now, robes let's go before

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<v Speaker 1>we get into some specific details that stand out your

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<v Speaker 1>general initial first response to it are initial thoughts upon

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<v Speaker 1>seeing Millennia.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she looked perfect. She was perfectly curated from head

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<v Speaker 2>to toe. And look, I know that if you've read

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<v Speaker 2>the reviews, you know this is true. But the I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's it definitely was disappointing for a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people who wanted to actually get to know Malania.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the whole point of the film.

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<v Speaker 2>She started out saying, you know, you all want to know,

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<v Speaker 2>so here it is, and you think, okay, great, We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to pull back the curtains. We're going to see

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<v Speaker 2>twenty days in the life of Malania Trump leading up

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<v Speaker 2>to the inauguration. This is going to be fantastic. Finally

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get to see Milania not perfectly curated and quoifed,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to get to hear her talk and

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<v Speaker 2>see her interactions with President Trump, and maybe even get

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<v Speaker 2>to hear Baron Trump's voice. I've never even heard his

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<v Speaker 2>voice before, so I was hoping for all of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>And none of them happened.

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<v Speaker 1>None. So before you even I mean, content wise, it

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<v Speaker 1>was fairly shocking from what you were expecting to what

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<v Speaker 1>you actually got, and this wasn't. I felt it never

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<v Speaker 1>felt like a documentary, and the feeling of it to

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<v Speaker 1>me was a reality show. A reality show where certain

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<v Speaker 1>things are it's supposed to be real, but it certainly.

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<v Speaker 3>Feels staged without any drama.

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<v Speaker 1>There was zero drama conflict of any kind.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what make reality shows good and interesting and entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you pointed it out. There was something that

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<v Speaker 1>one of the designers was stressing for a second, and

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<v Speaker 1>that felt like drama.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, is this like in the film?

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<v Speaker 1>This was perfectly packaged presentation of Milania And they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want you to see a flaw and.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't, and that is but that was the flaw

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<v Speaker 3>of the film for.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, because I went in genuine I am fascinated by

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<v Speaker 1>this woman, and I walked away still fascinating, fascinated. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't actually feel one way or another because you don't

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<v Speaker 1>get anything to react to or feel. Of course, she

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<v Speaker 1>is a fashion icon, and we see it repeatedly and

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<v Speaker 1>repeatedly and repeatedly in this film. But romees it gave.

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<v Speaker 1>I was fairly sunned. We were stunned at how little

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<v Speaker 1>we see in a documentary. There are times robes they

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<v Speaker 1>played long stretches of the inauguration like film footage we

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<v Speaker 1>have seen plenty of times before. Why do I need

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes here when I'm trying to learn about her

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<v Speaker 1>beautifully shot great right? All that, I was stunned at

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<v Speaker 1>how little we got.

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<v Speaker 2>I yes, agreed, because we knew going in obviously the

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<v Speaker 2>bad reviews. We had a level of expectation about what

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<v Speaker 2>we weren't going to get, and still it fell even

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<v Speaker 2>further short than those expectations. And I look at it

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<v Speaker 2>as a missed opportunity. There was a real opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>show us Malania Trump as a human, as a woman,

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<v Speaker 2>as a mother, as a wife. And all I saw

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<v Speaker 2>was that she knows how to hem, She knows where

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<v Speaker 2>the hemline should go and address, and she knows how

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<v Speaker 2>she likes her collars, and she likes you know, she

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<v Speaker 2>has a very specific way of designing and curating herself

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<v Speaker 2>in the White House.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I got.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not sarcasm. What you just said was accurate, what

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<v Speaker 1>the highlight was. And I'm just making sure nobody heard

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<v Speaker 1>you and thinking you were in some kind of way

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<v Speaker 1>being facetious there no no, no, no, no, we learned

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<v Speaker 1>this about her like that is what she is skilled at.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying how they were highlighting things robes that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to know about her. I know she is

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly curated, and I'm sure she has tailors around and

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<v Speaker 1>I see all that. I wanted to know what she's

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<v Speaker 1>like as a mother, what if she is in handling

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<v Speaker 1>and taking care of Donald Trump? I And maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't supposed to be that type of personal intimate thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was something else, and maybe they did exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wouldn't it have been amazing though, to have

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<v Speaker 2>seen her and relate and be able to relate.

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<v Speaker 3>To her she wanted to look. I can't see what

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<v Speaker 3>she wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed as though, based on the film and what

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<v Speaker 2>they present to audience members, they wanted her to appear

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<v Speaker 2>almost like royalty queen like and up on a pedestal

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<v Speaker 2>above us all and focused on her role taking care

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<v Speaker 2>of us and taking care of her image.

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<v Speaker 3>And it just fell so far below.

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<v Speaker 2>Or beneath what I was hoping for, because I just wanted,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think all of us, regardless of politics, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to like the first lady. I want to root

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<v Speaker 2>for her. I love seeing women, and she's gorgeous. Like

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is what I.

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<v Speaker 3>Saw in the film.

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<v Speaker 2>I already knew she's beautiful, she's stunning, she was a model.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need to prove that to us. You are gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>You were given incredible DNA and you've done really wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>things with it. But I didn't need to know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I already knew that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it what I saw, I already knew that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the review. You could probably write that and keep

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<v Speaker 1>it pushing and don't have to say much more. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine if that's what they wanted to put out.

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<v Speaker 1>But we were just saying what we saw with our

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<v Speaker 1>own eyes, that we are fans. Robes of All's Fair,

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Kardashian's show on Hulu. I bring that up because

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<v Speaker 1>that's another show that was horribly reviewed, But I say

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<v Speaker 1>it in this way. Robes, it had the documentary at

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<v Speaker 1>least had this over the top fashion opulence at times.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel to these introductory shots, these big opening it felt

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<v Speaker 1>this over the It really did feel like that showed

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<v Speaker 1>me at time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it you know, the look of it just and

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, as you pointed out earlier, the shots

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<v Speaker 2>and the cinematography were gorgeous, but most of the time

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was watching an out of touch

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<v Speaker 2>with reality fashion like almost a music video, because there

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<v Speaker 2>was just there was wonderful music of my favorite songs,

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<v Speaker 2>from Michael Jackson to I Forgot.

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<v Speaker 3>They just had a bunch. I was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>love the song. Oh I love this song.

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<v Speaker 2>But basically that is what the director had to put

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<v Speaker 2>because all we saw were I think you said fifty

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<v Speaker 2>to eighty percent. I think it was seventy five percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Foreshore of the film, and this is not an exaggeration.

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<v Speaker 2>Is her walking, and the only thing that changes is

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<v Speaker 2>either the cameras behind her, so you see her gorgeous

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<v Speaker 2>hair as she's walking in her stilettos, or maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>get a thing from the front and you see her

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<v Speaker 2>holding Donald Trump's hand but she's walking like a model,

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<v Speaker 2>or sometimes the camera was off afar, like maybe behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes and you're seeing her walking. But literally it

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<v Speaker 2>was just from one walking shot to the next, to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where our jaws dropped. I was like, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to be kidding me. She's still walking.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you all this is one This is not a criticism,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an observation, and you can call the criticism, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is an observation. To the point it got comical.

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<v Speaker 1>We were laughing, could not believe how it's You're right, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an hour and forty four minutes. And every time

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<v Speaker 1>you see her, seventy five percent of the time she

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<v Speaker 1>is in motion, she is walking. You need to see

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<v Speaker 1>a close up of the shoes. We see everything going up.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times do we see her hair and not

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<v Speaker 1>see her face? Kind of that too many times?

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<v Speaker 2>Too many times, it was it was comical. And the

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<v Speaker 2>other shots were her getting in and out of vehicles.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the other shots. And then when you did

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<v Speaker 2>have Trump, and by the way, when Trump did come

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<v Speaker 2>onto the screen, it made it finally somewhat interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>He spoke a little bit to the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to see a few little exchanges, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>when they were actually talking and walking and music was blaring,

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<v Speaker 2>those are the moments I actually wanted to hear what

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<v Speaker 2>was he saying to her? What was she saying to him?

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<v Speaker 2>So it was actually frustrating because the one time you

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<v Speaker 2>might actually get to see some intimate exchanges that weren't performative.

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<v Speaker 3>They were masked with music.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the funniest. He did have some moment and

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<v Speaker 1>you even mentioned like nice moments, sweet moments. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>like he's been disarmed to a certain degree. The only

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<v Speaker 1>time I've ever been around him, she was next to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was charming, He was fun, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>something that she adds some element of warmth to him

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<v Speaker 1>in those moments, and you see that nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he seemed to soften when when he was around

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<v Speaker 2>Malania in a way that I appreciated.

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<v Speaker 3>It was nice seeing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have liked to have seen her just in

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<v Speaker 2>sweatpants or in anything other than high fashion and stilettos,

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<v Speaker 2>Like give me a little like she was sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>her couch watching the news in stilettos.

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<v Speaker 3>No woman does that.

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<v Speaker 1>She does.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she does not, not when the cameras aren't there,

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<v Speaker 2>She is not sitting in her living room watching the

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<v Speaker 2>news in stilettos.

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<v Speaker 3>I guarantee it.

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<v Speaker 1>We did mention that, to the point you pointed it

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<v Speaker 1>out to me about the shoes. I don't know. Halfway

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<v Speaker 1>through the movie, so I'm staring. I say, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna see her in some tennis shoes, some fashion

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<v Speaker 1>shoot something. There was a slipper.

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<v Speaker 3>Shot for like a half a second.

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<v Speaker 1>It really was. In an hour and forty four minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of this movie, it was less than five seconds in

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<v Speaker 1>two different shots that you see her in something other

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<v Speaker 1>than five inch heels.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it. So what sure if that's what she

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<v Speaker 1>wants to present? And I don't need you to see

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<v Speaker 1>me casual. I don't want you to see me casual.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool, But I was hoping for those moments and

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<v Speaker 1>every time, even at home, right she's walking just in

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<v Speaker 1>and out of hallways, through golden doors and golden walls,

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<v Speaker 1>and it never looks chill, ever looks chill. And her

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<v Speaker 1>fittings when you're seeing in side the home were happening

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<v Speaker 1>in the same like boardroom with glass behind them to

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<v Speaker 1>where those went on for a.

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<v Speaker 3>While, and there was what will happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Will her lapel be wider or thinner? Where her neckline

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<v Speaker 2>go get tighter and crisper? Will the lines be the

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<v Speaker 2>way she wants them come Inauguration day? Sorry, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>In this one, however, Melania did have what I think

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we might agree, robes was her most open,

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<v Speaker 1>her sweetest, her most authentic, even moment, we'll explain what

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<v Speaker 1>that was, and we'll explain the demographics of Milania.

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<v Speaker 3>Stay here, Welcome back everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>As TJ and I talk about our time in the

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<v Speaker 2>theater watching the film Milania, and we mentioned, look, this

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<v Speaker 2>was a highly curated and I'm again this is not

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<v Speaker 2>me looking to criticize.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just, babe, can I say this? It was

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<v Speaker 3>just really really boring. It was boring, like there's only

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<v Speaker 3>so many shots of her walking with no dialogue, and

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<v Speaker 3>the only time you hear her voice, she's speaking in.

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<v Speaker 2>A way that appeared to be so forced and so contrived.

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<v Speaker 2>It was poetic even it almost some of the it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't natural, it wasn't authentic, it wasn't off the cuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It was again, like everything in the film, so highly

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<v Speaker 2>curated and orchestrated.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, if that's what they were going for, they succeeded.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not maybe not our cup of tea. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to reserve that for everybody else who this was for,

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<v Speaker 1>or like this, or is looking for something like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just looking to know, what did you say?

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<v Speaker 1>You just used a great line before the break I

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<v Speaker 1>just it didn't give you anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to know. I wanted to know who she

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<v Speaker 3>was when the cameras aren't rolling.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what a documentary typically typically is for, so you

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<v Speaker 2>actually get to see and get to know someone and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you literally pull the curtains back. That did

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<v Speaker 2>not happen in this There was one moment when she

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<v Speaker 2>and President Trump came down off of one of the

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<v Speaker 2>balls on the inauguration night and she had that beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>white and black dress. You'll get to see how it

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<v Speaker 2>was made and everything that want into making that dress,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're interested. And when she came off the stage,

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<v Speaker 2>they were playing Ymca and she was doing the little

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<v Speaker 2>dance and shaking her hips and giggling, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>the only time that we saw her actually kind of

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<v Speaker 2>let her hair down, so to speak, and show a

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<v Speaker 2>little personality that wasn't thought through and perfectly executed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're right, it was cute. It was you said

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<v Speaker 1>she was giggling a little bit. She was cute, Well

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<v Speaker 1>like she was the first time in the film, having

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<v Speaker 1>a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's when I thought, what a missed opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that you want to have your first lady and

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<v Speaker 2>being silly. I'm not suggesting that, but just getting to

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<v Speaker 2>see and know her personality beyond this. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>speech and I'm reading exactly what the speech writers told

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<v Speaker 2>me to say. I wanted to see the person behind

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<v Speaker 2>the first lady, and that was one small glimpse, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What the other if that was one small glimpse the

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<v Speaker 1>other highlight for me Robes And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>this story had been out there, but during the inauguration,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a moment that happened between President Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>Malania Trump as he was making his speech. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>you caught it, he's just kind of paused for a

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<v Speaker 1>moment and looked back at her and kind of pointed

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<v Speaker 1>after he had delivered a line, and she kind of

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<v Speaker 1>smiled back. We see in the documentary Robes where that

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<v Speaker 1>came from. I thought that was kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really cute.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a rehearsal basically of the President giving his speech,

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<v Speaker 2>and she suggested a change in one of the lines,

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<v Speaker 2>and so she kind of interrupted and said, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you should say this, and so you see him then

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<v Speaker 2>cut to his speech and he says the phrase that

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<v Speaker 2>she suggested, and he looked back at her appointed. That

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<v Speaker 2>was sweet, and I just that's what. If there were

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<v Speaker 2>more of those moments that it would have carried the

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<v Speaker 2>film to a completely different place.

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<v Speaker 1>That was cool. I just that was sweet. She got

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<v Speaker 1>something into his all important inauguration speech, and he acknowledged

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment he stopped and gave her credit. It

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<v Speaker 1>was two words, I think something. Yes, it was like unifying,

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<v Speaker 1>unifying peace or something. Yeah, and gave a credit. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was something at least that we got. Now, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about folks try to report that they're empty theaters. However,

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<v Speaker 1>theaters in places like Dallas, Orlando, Tampa, Phoenix, West Palm Beach.

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<v Speaker 1>I think those were the top five markets and robes.

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<v Speaker 1>We said, not a lot of people in our theater,

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<v Speaker 1>but the ones that were in there seemed to go

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<v Speaker 1>along with the demographic information.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with white women over the age of forty, you

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<v Speaker 2>were the only man and the only black person in

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<v Speaker 2>the theater. Seventy two of theatergoers were women, three percent

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<v Speaker 2>were over the age of forty five, and seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>percent were white.

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<v Speaker 3>That totally reads.

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<v Speaker 2>So we mentioned the cities in which this film has

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<v Speaker 2>done gangbusters. I did want to point out because I

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<v Speaker 2>thought this was quite funny, because sometimes you just have

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to take a joke. But an Oregon,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a theater that look and it's Oregon, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just you know the state and where they typically stand politically,

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<v Speaker 2>and so so a theater there decided to try and

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<v Speaker 2>draw people in with some creative marketing and knowing their audience.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the messages on the films or the

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<v Speaker 2>cinema's marquee said, does Milania wear Prada? Find out on Friday?

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny, it's not bad. That's funny does not mean

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<v Speaker 2>that's not bad. And then another message to advertise the film,

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<v Speaker 2>to defeat your enemy, you must know them.

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<v Speaker 3>Malania starts Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's somebody I had the sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay, so it's funny, but guess what, it was

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<v Speaker 2>not funny to Amazon's studio Amazon.

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<v Speaker 3>So Amazon pulled the film, pulled the film from.

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<v Speaker 2>That cinema, and then so this was then what they

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<v Speaker 2>put up on the marquee. Amazon called our marquee made

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<v Speaker 2>them mad. All Milania's showings canceled. Show your support at

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<v Speaker 2>Whole Foods instead.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody Humor.

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<v Speaker 2>That book is hilarious without being mean. Again, they know

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<v Speaker 2>their audience, they know their community.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not being mean. And then the other time, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't take a joke. Can't take a joke? Isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>the best way if you know your audience to get

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<v Speaker 1>them in here?

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<v Speaker 2>And couldn't Amazon have said, clever marketing will take whoever

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<v Speaker 2>wants to see Milania.

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<v Speaker 3>The more people who see it, the better.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't take a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't Amazon have just said that? That would have been

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<v Speaker 2>a smart reaction. There was an again, another opportunity there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an opportunity to not take yourself so seriously and

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<v Speaker 2>to have a little fun with the reality of trying

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<v Speaker 2>to show Milania in Oregon.

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<v Speaker 1>Take my movie and go home. Oh goodness, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to lead this last one here. This was I think,

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<v Speaker 1>not a mean one, but this was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best ways I heard people sum up what this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is without being mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Ropes, Yes, it reads.

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<v Speaker 2>No good impression emerges of the former Slovenian model. No

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<v Speaker 2>bad impression emerges either. Radner's film achieves rather a sort

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<v Speaker 2>of passive distance, as you might get by pointing a

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<v Speaker 2>camera for close to two hours at a waterfall or

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<v Speaker 2>a wheat field.

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<v Speaker 3>That's spot on, right, spot on, get.

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<v Speaker 1>Up close to it. You're just watching this thing happen

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<v Speaker 1>in front of you. It's a pretty picture, it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at it for a while, but you walk away

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<v Speaker 1>with what an understanding and insight? Nothing that and again

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:10.879
<v Speaker 1>that thing, no good impression, no bad impression emerges. Nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's too bad. I wanted to know, so I

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<v Speaker 1>really did want.

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<v Speaker 3>To know more about it, and I do, and I

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<v Speaker 3>and so did I.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I both have said that, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>even after reading the bad reviews, I was still surprised

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<v Speaker 2>at how boring it was.

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<v Speaker 1>She gets her steps in with that, Folks, check it

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<v Speaker 1>out by all means see for yourselves. And with that,

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<v Speaker 1>I am TJ. Holmes. Always appreciate your spending some time

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<v Speaker 1>with us, with my dear Amy Robot, talk to y'lson,