1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to this weegue uncut in the world of twenty 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: four NBA news. Chris Haynes works te it's time this 3 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: ligue uncut is underway. Then fire it should be a 4 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: good one. Hello friends, thanks for joining us for a 5 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: sure to be good one. A new episode of this 6 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: League Uncut. Mark Stein and Chris Haynes back with you. 7 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Before we get into the newsy stuff, I need to 8 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: hear your NCAA tournament regimen. Uh. My Cal State Fullerton 9 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: Titans fell one game, Shy of the tournament made it 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: last year, fell one game. Shy lost the Big West 11 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: title game to Santa Barbara, which would have been our 12 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: third trip in the last five Big West tournaments, which 13 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: which we're not used to going that often. So even 14 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: having gone twice in the last twice since twenty eighteen, 15 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: UH is huge for us. So, but my season ends 16 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: when the Titan season ends. Are you watching the NCAA 17 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: tournament closely or like? What is uh? How do you 18 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: how do you approach March madness? No, to ask your question, 19 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not watching right now. When it gets 20 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: to the sweet sixteen, That's when I'll start paying attention. 21 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: But I don't you know, I don't have a routine 22 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: of feeling out a bracket. I probably I've probably done 23 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: that twice, and I that might be a stress. I'm 24 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: talking about my whole life. Probably done it twice, feeling 25 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: out a bracket. I'm not big into it until it 26 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: gets to the final stages of the tournament. So um, 27 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: I just never been you know, it takes for me, 28 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, just a fan of basketball. I've always been 29 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: that way, even before covering the league. It takes for 30 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: me to to know some household names. You know, there's, there's. 31 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: The college is not like it was anymore. I think 32 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: a household name now was just a you know, a 33 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: top three pick potentially playing one year. And you you know, 34 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: Zion Williamson. He was probably the last guy that I 35 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: pretty much paid attention to because there was so much 36 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: buzz of him in high school. But it's not like, 37 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, like it was back you know when I 38 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: was in high school. You know, I graduated two thousand, 39 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: so you know, I grew up Grant Hill. You know, 40 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: that's early junior high for me, Grant Hill. But you know, 41 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: these guys that you got to see for two, three, 42 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: four years and they built, they built a resume and 43 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: built the following, and it's just it just has hasn't 44 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: been like that for a while, and I don't think 45 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: it ever get back to that point. Not to say 46 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: that that's bad, but just for me, I just haven't 47 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: followed college closely since the landscape kind of changed. You know, 48 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't planning to go further in this direction, but 49 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: as usual, your answer kind of steers me somewhere that 50 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: I didn't think we would end up, but now that 51 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: I think about it, Like I wear my fandom on 52 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: my sleeve so much, cal State, Fullerton, Manchester City, the 53 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers, Tennis, Like I'm I mean, you you know 54 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: pretty well like all the things that I'm a fan of, 55 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: But I just like I don't know any of your 56 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: fan Like are you a Fresno State fan because you 57 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: grew up there? Or like, I don't really know, I've 58 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: never seen you in fan mode now that I think 59 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: about it, Oh fam oh, I'm not. Look, I don't 60 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: have a When I was growing up, I like the 61 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: forty nine ers from Fresno, California. If anybody doesn't know 62 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: by now, but I grew up watching the forty nine Ers. 63 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: Jerry Rice was my favorite player. Then at certain point 64 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: Terrell Owens became my favorite player. And I followed Terrell 65 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: Owens when he went to the Niners, then went to 66 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: the Eagles, then went to the Cowboys, and then unfortunately 67 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: when he went to the Bengals, and so I've never 68 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: been at then my NBA team. Look, I was a 69 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: big Jordan fan. I wasn't a big Jordan fan. I 70 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: can't say I was a big Chicago Bulls fan, but 71 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: a big Jordan fan. But Stein that window when he 72 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: retired for the first time and went on his high 73 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 1: as to play baseball again. Being from Fresno, we didn't 74 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: get Laker games on TV. We got Warriors games. And 75 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: that was the time when Latrelle Spreewell emerged with the 76 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: Warriors and started balling out. And I remember I became 77 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: a Spreewell fan because he had the ball head looked 78 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: similar to Jordan. He and we got all their games. 79 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: We got all the Warriors games, and this one the 80 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: Warriors that were bad. We got all the Warriors games 81 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: and I fell in love the trust free Well, so 82 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: similar to La trust Spruo when he got into his 83 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: trouble at Golden State, I followed him to New York, 84 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: then I followed him to Minnesota. And so I've never 85 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: been a real fan of a team per se. And 86 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: just like with college, like I graduated from Fredlin State, 87 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: you know I'll root for them, but you know, I 88 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: can't say my college fandom to my alma materate is 89 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: anywhere on par to how you feel about your cow 90 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: State Fullest. Now I'm glad. Actually I didn't know that 91 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: spree well stuff, And now I'm glad I resisted tweeting 92 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: over the weekend when because we had Fulirton had a 93 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: tough road in the Big West Tournament. We had to 94 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: beat Hawaii for the third time this season. It's never 95 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: easy to beat a team three times in a row. 96 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: Then we beat top seeded UC Irvine, our hated rivals, 97 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: and after that game, I was gonna tweet Fullerton star 98 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: player is Latrelle right Cell. I was gonna do Latrelle 99 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: right Cell greater than Trell Sprewell. I was going to 100 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: treat that tweet. I was going to tweet that. But 101 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: now I'm glad I didn't because you would have been 102 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: mad at me. If I good calls, good call, then 103 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: I showed a little bit of restraint. All right, let's 104 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: get to the real deal. Let's get to the serious stuff. 105 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: The NBA announces this week that John Morant eight games 106 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: suspension for the incident at the nightclub in Colorado. He's 107 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: already missed six games. The NBA decides that those six 108 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: games factor in, so he's eligible to return Monday. The league. 109 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: I'll readdirect from the league statement here. The league office 110 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: conducted an investigation of the March fourth incident. Based on 111 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: the information obtained during the investigation, the league did not 112 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: conclude that the gun at issue belonged to Morant, was 113 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: brought by him into the nightclub or was displayed by 114 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: him beyond a brief period. The investigation also did not 115 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: find that Morant possessed the gun while traveling with the 116 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: team or in any NBA facility, and the Colorado authorities 117 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: did not find sufficient cause to charge Morant with the crime. 118 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 1: All of that is in the NBA's release for pretty 119 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: obvious reasons. They you know, had any of that happened, 120 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: what the league laid out there, had this been considered 121 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: a gun that job possessed or that he brought while 122 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: traveling with the team, or brought in the facility. The implication, 123 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: of course, is that the penalty would have been much 124 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: more severe at eight game penalty, kind of in line 125 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: with other situations in the past where those violations were 126 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: not committed. Again, if the gun goes into an NBA facility, 127 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: you know, I was incorrect when I recently stated there 128 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: is a hard and fast rule in the league rules. 129 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: There is no hard and fast rule. But you know, obviously, 130 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: I think everyone remembers what happened in the Gilbert Arena 131 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: situation when guns were in the Wizard's facility. So eight 132 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: game suspension in the end, I don't think we'll see 133 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: job Bunday against Dallas. Taylor Jenkins, the Grizzlies coach, has 134 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: basically said that. So we will see John Morant back 135 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: at some point, probably next week. The Grizzlies are going 136 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: to get him back for the stretch run and really 137 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: then all eyes are going to be on John Morant 138 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: and like what he does from here. But you know, 139 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: I think given the gravity of this situation, you know, 140 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: for the Grizzlies, this probably ended up. You know, I 141 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: don't think best case scenario is the right verbiage here, 142 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: but for this to only be eight games, and to 143 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: get him back before the regular season, and to get 144 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: a chance to try to bring him back into their team. 145 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure the Grizzlies are relieved on a lot of levels. 146 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: I well, I guess I would take it a step 147 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: further style. I do believe this is the basic best 148 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: case scenario. I do. I understand that they've been struggling 149 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: without them, which that was expected, and you don't want 150 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: to miss any time down the stretch with your best 151 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: player being out. But considering the alternative, what could have 152 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: happened if the NBA or law enforcement were to find 153 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: that he did bring that gun into the club, or 154 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: that gun was well brought on to NBA premises, such 155 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: as a chartered flight. You know that we don't know. 156 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if we would see John Morant again 157 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: this season. So, with all that being said, was I surprised? 158 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised by I wasn't surprised by the last 159 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: I thought it would be a little large. I thought 160 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: it would be at least in even ten games. What 161 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: I was surprised is that they counted the games already. 162 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: I was surprised by that because they never nobody's ever 163 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: came out Grizzlies or the league and said that those 164 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: games were considered a suspension. It was a you know, 165 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: he had to get away and handle some business. So 166 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: I was surprised with that. But with all that being said, 167 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: Jazz as a right now he's in the clear. There's 168 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: been a lot going. You know, there's been two players 169 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: that we've talked about this season when when we're talking 170 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: about off the court matters, it's been Kyrie Irving and 171 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: has been John Morant. And so now, JA, are you 172 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: gonna be able to stop that? You know, these things 173 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: have kept incidents a large incidents have been problematic, and 174 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: they've been serious. They've been really serious. And so I'm 175 00:10:52,400 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: hoping that he really took the time to just focus 176 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: on himself and look inside himself and try to get 177 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: a gist of what's going on, what's happening, Why is 178 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: he acting out this way? Why why are you conducting 179 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: yourself in this manner? And because I want to see 180 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: him thrive, you know, as brother, I want to see 181 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: him thrive on the court. I want to see him 182 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: thrive off the court again, man, I got nothing but 183 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: love for his pop tea, uncle Phil over There many 184 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: they're they're really good people, really good people, and so 185 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: they gotta they gotta conduct themselves in a better fashion 186 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: moving forward. So again I've seen some people say, well, 187 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't long enough. You know. Now jis saying he's 188 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: he's all right now and he's seemed the light. I 189 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: hope so. I don't know, I hope so, But only time, 190 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: only his actions can prove it. I think he knows that, 191 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, he gave the interview with Jalen Rose. But 192 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: I you know, I think it's fair to say people 193 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: are not gonna spend too much time dwelling on what 194 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: he says and really what he does from here. I mean, 195 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: and look, you know, I don't want to be ultra 196 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: ultra cynical about this, but you know, coming back before 197 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: the end of the season is a huge thing for 198 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: Job personally, because the reality is there's money on the line. 199 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he if he's not an All NBA player 200 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: this season, it's it's approaches forty million dollars, the difference 201 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: between the max cott, the value of his max contract 202 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: that will start next season, whether he's selected All NBA 203 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: this season or not. And there is already there is 204 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: so much competition at guard I had, I had a 205 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: lot of names scribbled. I know I'm missing some now 206 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: because of course I can't find that page where I 207 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: scribbled it. But Luca Fox, Sga Donovan, Mitchell, Steph Um, 208 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, Devin Booker with games missed, probably not going 209 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: to be contending for a guard spot in terms of 210 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: All NBA. But like I said, I know I'm missing 211 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: some names. I mean, there definitely definitely missing one name. 212 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: Fix it for me because I'm I'm old and dumb. Yeah, dame. 213 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: So I mean, there's a it is very crowded in 214 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: the backcourt and very conceivable that even if John Morant 215 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: comes back now and plays really well, that he won't 216 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: get one of those six guard slots on the All 217 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: NBA team, And it will be hugely, hugely costly for 218 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: him if that doesn't happen. So you know, he now 219 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: at least gets that opportunity. I don't know if there's 220 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: enough time because again, you know, all those names. The 221 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: guard competition, it's a complicated calculation in the West because 222 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: it's not just your stats and the talent, but a 223 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: lot of guys miss games. You know, Steph's missed a 224 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: lot of games as well. But you know, Steph is 225 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: playing ridiculous basketball this season, so should he be an 226 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: All NBA guy? You know, the Boston between Tatum and Brown, 227 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: I think Tatum will end up a front court player, 228 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: but Brown could be considered a backcourt player. Uh. You know, 229 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: positions are a little bit more flexible in the All 230 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: NBA talk. So I mean that, you know, we can 231 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: go on and on and on listing names. I just 232 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to get there. And you know, 233 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: beyond beyond just the mere finances of it. You know, 234 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: Memphis is trying to lock up a number two seed 235 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: and so we'll see if his return now is there 236 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: are enough time to do that? And you know, will 237 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: the Grizzlies start playing well? The Grizzlies look more like 238 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: they did in the first half of the season. I'm 239 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: trying to see how many your games Grizzlies have left. 240 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: They have. Let me see, they got twelve games left 241 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: in the season. John Morant has played in fifty three. 242 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: He's going to miss let me see the next three 243 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, because basically Taylor Jenkins has said that 244 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: he will not be playing Monday against Dallas. He'll barely 245 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: approach sixty games. But look, so many guys are in 246 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: that position. I mean Lucas now missing a lot of games. 247 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: S GA steph uh, you know where? What do we 248 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: do with deer and fix Deer? And Fox has to 249 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: be an all NBA player with the way Sacramento is 250 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: the season they've had in the clutch play, he's delivered. 251 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: So I mean it all right, hold on, hold on, 252 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: let's let's let's not let's not run from it. Then 253 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: let's go take your head on. You said he has 254 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: to be this, this, this is a tough let's go. 255 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's do it. Let's do it right now. 256 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: Hold on, you want to start, want to you want 257 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: to nail down six guards on March sixteenth, I'm gonna. 258 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I can. I think I can nail down 259 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: some guys that are gonna be in it for sure. 260 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: We don't forget anybody. Hold on, hold on, let me 261 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: let me go, let me go. Hold on, We're gonna 262 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: do this. Let's not run from it. Let's go. Hold 263 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: over here. So I think I think Luca is a 264 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: lock for first team. I think Dame is a lock 265 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: for first team. Man, I can't even use the word locks. 266 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm willing to say they're among the six. But okay, 267 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: all right, let's stop this, let's stop. Let let me, 268 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: let me, let me stop that. There. They're among the 269 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: They're guaranteed among the six. Luca and Dame. Can we 270 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: agree on that, Mitchell? Okay, I think Donovan Mitchell, Yes, yes, 271 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: I put him in that boat. That's three. I think 272 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: Sga gets gets in there as well. So so so 273 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: far me and you are on agreement that these four 274 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: are locks to get in the top six. All right. 275 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: From there, you got John Morant dearon Fox. You may 276 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: you may be right right, I mean, Jay the Brown 277 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: is right now to be in the conversation. I think 278 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: Book has probably missed too many games. But I mean 279 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: when he plays, he's yeah, he's an All NBA player, 280 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean Books missed how many games? 281 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: Is he? I mean he's missed half the season. Yeah. 282 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: I think for those final two guard spots, you've got 283 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown deeron Fox and John Moran Anthony Anthony Edwards. 284 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, when you don't have the 285 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: listener in front of you, it is easy to miss. 286 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards. I mean, he's been Minnesota's best player. Like 287 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: that's the thing that it is super crowded. So that's 288 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: why when you're sitting there going, let's lock this in, 289 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: let's do it right now. Okay, hold on, hold on, 290 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: hold on, and then then one more name we gotta mention. 291 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: So we mentioned four right there for those two spots. 292 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: Um Jaylen Brown, Deeron Fox, John Moran, Anthony Edwards. Don't 293 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: forget Stephen Curry. I mean Steph has you know, Steph 294 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: smissed twenty six games, but when he's been on the floor, 295 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: he's been ridiculous. Then there's guys like you know, Haliburton 296 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: and Brunson. You know, Brunson didn't get an All Star spot, 297 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: but I think they at least have to be in 298 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: the discussion. So like James Harden, James Harden who snubbed 299 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: from the All Star Game, and you know, he's had 300 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: a tremendous year, and Philly just keeps winning and winning. 301 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: And when it's that's that's what I'm saying. It's like, 302 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: if we really slow down, we can come up with 303 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: twelve names for six spots. The only reason I want 304 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: to go down that list is because you say you 305 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: think Darren Fox has to get one of those six, 306 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's tough. I'm not saying he doesn't 307 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: deserve it, but that's where that's where, like you know 308 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: again and and it just everyone does it different. But 309 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: to me, Fox, you know, because they're winning so many 310 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: they're winning so much more than expected. I mean, we're 311 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: taping this on Thursday night. Entering Thursday Nights play Sacramento 312 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: Kings tied for the number two seed in the West, 313 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: but nobody expected. And yes, injuries throughout the West have 314 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: certainly factored in, but like his great play has has 315 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 1: has directly led to winning. So you know that is 316 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: that is a factor to me, And that's why I 317 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: think like it would be you know, it will be 318 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: disappointing if if Fox isn't on there you know it 319 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: is there room for Fox and Sabonis. Do the Kings 320 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: deserve two? All NBA guys, if they finished second in 321 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: the West, I would say yes. If they finished second 322 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: in the West, you will say yes. So all NBA 323 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: give me I keep forgetting the criteria. Do they require 324 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: that you have a center or is just three front cors? 325 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: They do require that you have a center, but they're 326 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: very very lenient on how you do the positions. So like, yeah, 327 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: la if I remember right, you know, basically, you can 328 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: put Yo Kitchen and Bead, or you could put Yo 329 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: Kichen and Bead on the first team together when they're 330 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 1: both you know, when they're really both centers, you can 331 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: put one in forward. Yeah, and I'm I know a 332 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: lot of people wouldn't like that, but I'm for that 333 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: because in the case of Joel and Bad, didn't he 334 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: experience that last year where Joker got right? And that's 335 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: where so team look at the top of the MVP 336 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: race and Embid it appears that embiid is inching past 337 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: Yokich after Yokich was in the lead for quite a 338 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: quite a while. My kind of MVP discussion has really 339 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: been let's just make sure we note that this is 340 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: a three man race, Yokich and Bead, Yannis, the three 341 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: of them have separated themselves in the field. So let's 342 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: like to have a word. Would you say if you 343 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: put you could put Yannis, Yoki and b on the 344 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: first team all NBA, and that probably knocks Tay him 345 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: off the first team. So yeah, I mean, he could 346 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: get bumped out of two different conversations, which you know 347 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: will enrage people in Boston and Bill Simmons. So it's 348 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: not it's not a it's not a perfect system. But 349 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with being able to j A. 350 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: If you're All NBA team is all centers and those 351 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: are the top those centers are the top five in 352 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: the in the MVP race, go ahead, go ahead. I 353 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: don't have a problem with it because I think him, 354 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: I think he looks dumb personally to have a second 355 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: person that finished the second MVP ends up on second 356 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: or third All NBA and then Mike Mike counter to 357 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: that has been this has been happening since the days 358 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: of Wilt and Russell. That one of Bill Russell won 359 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: all the rings. But you should go back and see 360 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: how many times he was bumped a second team because 361 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: Wilt would get first team All NBA. So like All 362 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: NBA to me has you know, as long as you're 363 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: on the fifteen, I mean, to me, that's generally, you know, 364 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: that's the that's the important thing to you know. From 365 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: my vantage point, of course, I'm not one of those 366 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: players who would affect. But all NBA discussion has just 367 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: gotten so crazy because contract bonuses are tied to it. 368 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: Like we said, you know, whether John Morant is one 369 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: of the fifteen guys on the All NBA team at 370 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: season's end, it's going to impact him in a massive, 371 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: massive way financially to the tune of nearly forty million dollars. 372 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 1: So All NBA has just the discussion has gotten so 373 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: much more heated because of what's on the line financially. 374 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: Stut I would like to jump in right here, and 375 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: we've we've received a few complaints Stin. I think it's 376 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: time for me to say this and address it. We've 377 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: received a few complaints since we launched our podcasts, and 378 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: these complaints are valid. They are very valid, and the 379 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: blame is with me. I've been the problem. I've been 380 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: the problem all season long. So I will say this 381 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: for the people who have been complaining about this issue. 382 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: I hope you are enjoying this podcast because you have 383 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: not experienced that issue in this episode, and I hope 384 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: to continue this throughout the rest of this regular season. 385 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: What they what people for Stime to tell people what 386 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: they've been complaining about. Stime, We've been get complaints about 387 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: my fire alarm buzzer going off. What is it? It's 388 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: the fire what is it called the fire alarm? Fire alarm? Yeah, 389 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: the fire alarm. But you know what's crez? The war 390 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: is crazy? Yeah, to change your battery. But here's what's great. 391 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: I didn't hear. I didn't hear it at all. It 392 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: was the last episode that people said, Hey guys, great pod, 393 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: but be sure to change your fire alarm battery. I 394 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: didn't know what the I didn't know what they're talking about. Listen, 395 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: change it out, you know, you know, you know, I 396 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: can't think of any other example. But I'm pretty sure 397 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: you can relate, and everybody else listening can relate. You know, 398 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: you never know there's a problem until somebody points it 399 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: out to you. And then when they pointed out, then 400 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: it's really a problem, like because now you notice it. 401 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: Like so this fire alarm that I've been getting this 402 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: beat for months months, I've lived with it. I've never 403 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: it's never been a problem, like I don't even think 404 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: I really noticed it. And so then when you sent 405 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: me that tweet about somebody a couple of people could 406 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: play it about it, Then all of a sudden, I 407 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: couldn't sleep, star I couldn't sleep. The buzzer, who's like 408 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: hit my ear? I couldn't sleep, But for the all 409 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: the other months, I was sleeping peacefully, no problem at all. 410 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: Didn't even recognize it. So you know what, I said, 411 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna be a podcast show that listens to its fans. 412 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna listen to it. So I got up there, 413 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: got the ladder, changed the battery, and you're not hearing anything. 414 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: You're not hearing anything. So I hope the fans appreciate 415 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: where we're going with this and appreciate the effort we 416 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: put into minimizing and limited and limiting noise. We should 417 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: have got some video of you on that ladder. Like 418 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: I said, I'm more worried that I never heard an ounce. 419 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: I never heard a peep. And then the next morning 420 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: there's all these tweets. Take guys, somebody changed the battery 421 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: on your fire. I'm like talking about that. If we're 422 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: being totally honest, I've eliminated the noise, but I haven't 423 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: completely solved the problem. I just took it apart right now. 424 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't figure out how to change a battery. 425 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: So I said, listen, let me just take it apart 426 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: so my listeners can hear hear, well, I just hope 427 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't have a real fire emergency right now where 428 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: my alarms won't go off. Didn't get that, Ryan producer, 429 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: Ryan smoke a law, it's a smoke alarm. Well, if 430 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: we're being totally, totally, totally honest now in my house, yeah, 431 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to fix the missus Missus 432 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: Stein is the expert on fixing those, not me. So 433 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: you know your role, you know your roles out She's 434 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: the one who fixes it because I still haven't learned 435 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: how to do it. So so there you go. Yeah, 436 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: that's smoke alarm. Hold, I got another another complaint, stign 437 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: You didn't see this one coming. Again. We're so that 438 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: listens to listen to our fans. So this is a 439 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: woman who I respect at my She's followed me since 440 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: my days covering the Warriors. She listens to every podcast, 441 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: every podcast. Uh, because every after every podcast she sends 442 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: me a message, just you know, tell me what she 443 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: thought about what I said. And so she did that 444 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 1: when I had my own podcast. Now she continues to 445 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: do this. Uh with this podcast. Steyne, she had a 446 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: problem with you her name, and I hope I'm pronouncing 447 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: her last name, but her first name is Jenny, and 448 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: I hope I'm pronouncing her last name right, Maliki. But 449 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: before I get into her complaints, Stein, she is an 450 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: extraordinary baker. She baked. She's a professional baker in the 451 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: San Francisco area. She sent me a couple of apple pies. 452 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: Please go follow her on Instagram Buttercup Baking. Follow her 453 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: on Instagram Buttercup Baking. All your baking kneeds. She does it, 454 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: all cookies, pies, whatever. She's awesome. But anyway, Stein, after 455 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: last episode, when we were talking about parody and you 456 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: were putting down the Western Conference saying that this field 457 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: is the players is lesser than what it used to be, 458 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: and I said, I think it's parody. So here's Jenny 459 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: with her response to me, excuse me when she hit 460 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: me up. I have to listen to our pod Stein's 461 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: ill conceived notion that parody in the Western Conference means 462 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: all the top West teams are mediocre. Is he watching 463 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: the games or watching tennis? You know how long I've 464 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: been an NBA fan since nineteen seventy three, and I've 465 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: been saying this has been the most entertaining season so far. 466 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: Guys are playing hard, Records are being broken every week. 467 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: Tells Stein he needs to invest in league past. I 468 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: think it's on sale by now, so I told her 469 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: I would relay the message. I don't think she knew 470 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna relay it during the pod, but I said, 471 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: why not since we're given giving our listeners a platform. Stein, 472 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: what do you say to that? Stein? Everybody is entitled 473 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: to their view and opinion, and you know, if she's 474 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: been watching the NBA sin seventy three, she's been watching 475 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: four or five years longer than me. I would just say, though, 476 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: like I said, this is not a knock. I look 477 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: the talent in the web, especially after the trade deadline. 478 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: You know, we saw Durant and Kyrie Irving get traded 479 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: to the West. Individual player wise, the West is overflowing 480 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: with talent. But again, every West team you can name, 481 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: including now Denver, which their defense has gone south and 482 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,239 Speaker 1: they're in the midst of their longest losing streak of 483 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: the season as we're recording this. I mean, the reality 484 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: is the three title favorites in the NBA right now 485 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: are all in the East, and we we are only 486 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: on pace to see one or two fifty win teams 487 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: in the West. And so I don't see how you 488 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: can argue with the math. I mean, the we are 489 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: just seeing. You know, since Michael Jordan's second retirement in Chicago, 490 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: the West has been filled with great, great teams. So 491 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not entertaining. I'm not saying it's 492 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: not interesting, certainly every single night. And I mean I saw, 493 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: I saw our old buddy John Hollander, you know, heat 494 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: the same day that I came out and said this 495 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: is the most mediocre West. And I came on here 496 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: and said, am I too old to say mid This 497 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: is the most Midwest I've ever seen? You know, John 498 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: Road a piece that said it's the most it's the 499 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: most intriguing and interesting West he's ever seen. But to me, 500 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: the fact that all these teams are bunched at five hundred. 501 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: You know, the Warriors can't win a road game. The 502 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: MAVs haven't been able to get Luca and Kyrie on 503 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: the court together. You know, Minnesota, we haven't seen Karl 504 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: Anthony Towns since November and they continue to be a 505 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: five hundred team. The Clippers very up and down just 506 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: on and on and on that after you know, and 507 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: again Denver has been sucked into it. So I guess 508 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: that's my long winding way of saying, I'm not ready 509 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: to agree with Jenny even though she's got me beat 510 00:30:53,720 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: on a seniority in observance by five years. And I'm 511 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: glad you you answered it like that, Stein, because she's 512 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: been a professional baker in the San Francisco area to 513 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: Bay area for thirty thirty years approaching thirty years. Her 514 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: stuff is good. So even if you did disagree, Stein, 515 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: you would not want to disagree that vehement lee publicly 516 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: because you need to taste what she gots going on. 517 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: You got you, you gotta taste these pies, these cookies. Stein, 518 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: she knows what she knows what she's doing. Again, you 519 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: got the hook, you got, you got your own personal 520 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: baker hook up. Why am I not? Why am I 521 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: not surprised? Star? Listen you you know the way to 522 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: a man's heart. I don't know if it's that way 523 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: is still true today because I think you know, I 524 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: ain't gonna go there, but it's still that's still the 525 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: way to my heart. Food. Food, That is definitely the 526 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: way to my heart. Jenny, I appreciate you again. Follow 527 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: her on IG Buttercup, Underscore Baking, Go go check her out. 528 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: There is one more subject that I did want to 529 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,479 Speaker 1: hit with you before we go, because I was really 530 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: interested by this. Because the truth is and again I 531 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: do not want it. Damian Lillard, your guy had some 532 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: really interesting comments on JJ reddicks podcast recently. But I 533 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: do want to point out that he did kind of 534 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: say something similar with us when he appeared during All 535 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: Star weekend. So I just I, you know, look you are. 536 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: You are the NBA's foremost damologists. So I wanted to 537 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: kind of get your take on all this. So first 538 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read what he said on JJ's pod, and 539 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: so let me let me read that first quote. The 540 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: NBA I play in now is not the NBA that 541 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: I came into. I feel like I play for the 542 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: love of the game. I want the competition. I want 543 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: to know what it feels like to win. I want 544 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: to see my teammates do well. I want to see 545 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: my teammates get paid. I enjoy the bonding part of it, 546 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: but now it's like that don't count. Regular season, don't count. 547 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: Get a ring. Now I want to rewind to this 548 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: pod that we dropped right after the All Star Game 549 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: game tape this with us the morning of the three 550 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: Point Contest and went out and won the three point 551 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: Contest hours after this discussion. Here's what he said along 552 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: the same lines with us. The way the game has changed, 553 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: I think it's become much more common, like, oh, you 554 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: need a ring, you know. I think it's about a 555 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: outside pressure of you need a ring. You got to 556 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: win a championship. You know, it's tough out here. You know, 557 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: it's tough right now, especially with the access we will 558 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: have to us through social media. How often you know, 559 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 1: to discussed every little thing on TV. So it just 560 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: comes with a lot of a lot of heat. You know, 561 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: we under a microscope as far as you are what 562 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: other people think of it. That leads guys to feeling life. 563 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: I gotta do what I gotta be win. Honestly, I 564 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: think a lot of people just love to to see 565 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: things just get mixed up. You know, they love a drama, 566 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: and you know, then once it happened and they die 567 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: off of it and then it's like on to the 568 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: next thing. But I just understand that nobody's gonna have 569 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: to walk in my shoes and live with any of 570 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: the consequences or anything. I never let that way into 571 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: any decision or feel aboudy know, it does get irritated 572 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: sometimes it's like everybody's telling me what I need to 573 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: do and what I should do, as if they actually care, 574 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they say it from a placement, 575 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: if they actually care, when I know they don't. So 576 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: kudos to Jenny the Baker's favorite NBA scribe, Chris Hayes, 577 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: because he's the one who arranged for Dane to talk 578 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: to us from All Star weekend on his way to 579 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: a morning practice hours before he won the three point contest. 580 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: But you know he said he said what he said 581 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: to JJ as well on the Reddick Pod, and that 582 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: line got a lot of traction. The NBA I play 583 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: in now is not the NBA I came into c H. 584 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: What did you you know, what did you kind of 585 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: think when you heard that quote? Make the rounds this week? 586 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: I think what Dame is talking about is the fact 587 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 1: that how we're where, it seems like we're wiping away 588 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: the regular season, we're wiping away the journey. And you know, 589 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: in his in his situation, it's been like this for 590 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: the last it's like that, I don't know, half a 591 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: decade with him where people want him to hurry up 592 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: and jump ship, and it's it's almost as if they're saying, 593 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: we're not paying attention to you, we're not acknowledging you 594 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: until you get on a championship team. Therefore, everything you 595 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: do right now in Portland will be as if you're 596 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 1: doing it under a rock where nobody can see. And 597 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: it's it's, you know, it's not validating them that I 598 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: think that, and I think that's I think social media 599 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: has something to do with that, where I know a 600 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: lot of people feel social media has ruined the NBA. 601 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about social media, and then you know, 602 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: people may say that we have a role Steins being 603 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: insider us, we have a role in that where we're 604 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: talking a lot about what a player is going to do, 605 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: you know, what's going to happen in the offseason, what's 606 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: going to happen at the trade deadline, who needs to 607 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 1: be moved, who needs to be cut. Rarely we're talking 608 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: about what players are doing or what teams are doing 609 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: on the court. And I know that's me and Kevin 610 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: Durant have multiple conversations about that. He feels the same way, 611 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: and he was somebody who who did a hat tip 612 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: to Dame's comment to JJ, So I think that's what 613 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: he's talking about. It's like nobody's really paying attention to 614 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: the pformances out here. You know, somebody can have fifty points, right, 615 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: so take Dame. He can have fifty points or that 616 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: seventy one point game he has. Then the next day 617 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: they're not necessarily just talking about Dame going off at 618 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: seventy one. They're talking about does Dame need to move 619 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: on to somewhere else to be acknowledged, to be recognized, 620 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: And it takes away from what that individual did in 621 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: the game, It takes away from the teammates that help 622 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: set you up to have that monster performance, and it's 623 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: all about talking about where he should go, what he 624 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: should do. Same same with KD, same situation. So I 625 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: think that's that's what he means by that. It's like 626 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: we it's almost and I don't say I don't think 627 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: everybody feels that way, obviously, but there are a lot 628 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: of casual NBA fans who just go off the storylines 629 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: and don't look at hoops. And then if you're judging 630 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: strictly by social media, then you may find on social 631 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: media that most of them probably just look at the 632 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 1: storylines themselves. And so that's why social media is not 633 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: always a judge of what is truly happening. But I 634 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: think that's what Dame meant probably in this totality when 635 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: he when he had those remarks, and I guess I 636 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: would my kind of my reaction to it is the 637 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: reality is to me. You know, this is my thirtieth season. 638 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: I think this conversation has always been there, Like it's 639 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: when I started in the nineties, there was tons of 640 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 1: discussion about Patrick Ewing hasn't wont to ring, Charles Barkley 641 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: hasn't won a ring, John Stockton and Karl Malone hasn't 642 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: won a ring, and then you know my formative years 643 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: in this job, you know, you you know, I always 644 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: say Dame is your Dirk. I mean, I watched Dirk 645 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: Nvitski for the first ten years of his career be 646 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: called soft, not tough enough, European, can't lead a team 647 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: to a championship, can't do it on the big stage, 648 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: and then Dallas wins it in twenty eleven and it 649 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: totally changes the way Dirk is perceived, and Dirk instantly 650 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: became a beloved figure when the truth is he was 651 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: a great, great player for years before that championship two 652 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 1: thousand and six. There is no question the Dallas Mavericks 653 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: unraveled in spectacular fashion in those finals when they blew 654 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: a two o lead to Miami, but two rounds before, 655 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: for me, still the best playoff series I have personally 656 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: personally covered start to finish, Game one to Game seven, 657 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: the way Dirk Davitsky played in San Antonio on Tim 658 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: Duncan's floor and Dallas wins a Game seven in overtime 659 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: against San Antonio another one two thousand and nine. Nobody 660 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: even talks about this when they go back in Dirk's legacy. 661 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: Dirk was on probably the worst MAVs team he'd been 662 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: on for years. They're playing a super rugged, physical Denver 663 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: team that just had all kinds of really tough, defensive 664 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: minded bigs to help out Carmelo Anthony and Dirk Navitsky 665 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: in that series against Denver, a first round loss and 666 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,919 Speaker 1: amidst some real personal turmoil, the numbers that Dirk put 667 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: up in that series were just jaw dropping. So I mean, 668 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: this guy was a great, great player before the champion, 669 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 1: before Dallas won that championship. And I see a lot 670 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: of similarities between what his first ten years like and 671 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 1: a lot of the noise around Dame. But I think 672 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: the difference Dame is talking about what it really is 673 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 1: is the noise level. It's just Dame came. Dame's first 674 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: year was eleven twelve, is that right, twelve thirteen, So 675 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: in this last decade, it's the it's the rise of 676 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: social media, it's the way TV has changed that you know, 677 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: even my last few years at ESPN fifteen fourteen, fifteen, fifteen, sixteen, 678 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen, there were so many sports centers in a day, 679 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 1: and those three years I was embedded with the Warriors 680 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: and I was on so much. So many of those 681 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 1: sports centers have been shoved aside by your first takes 682 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: and you're you know, those discussion shows that you know, 683 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, just the noise about legacy and about guy's 684 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: careers and you know, do they need a ring? All 685 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: that discussion. It's really that's what's really exploded in you know, 686 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: over the course of Dame's career, and I think that's 687 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,720 Speaker 1: why he's felt it so acutely just because the noise levels, 688 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: the ring conversation has been there, Like I said, since 689 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: I can remember Clyde Drexler in Portland, another guy who 690 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: who had to hear it for years and years and 691 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: years until he got traded to Houston and got to 692 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: win one along Simon alongside a chem Elijah one. But 693 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: that ring noise, the ring discussion has been there. It's 694 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: just this last decade the volume of it has just 695 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: gone to insane levels and only seem to rise. So 696 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: it's actually really good to hear when when Dame we're 697 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: speaking with with JJ Reddick that he you know, he 698 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: said real life, he's so into his real life that 699 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 1: it enables him to tune out the noise because the 700 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: noise has got to be really, really annoying. Yeah, so 701 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: I will say the noise level we have, you know, 702 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: you have the talk shows and national talk shows who 703 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: have these discussions, these topics that don't necessarily pertain to 704 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: what he or any other players is doing in that 705 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 1: particular game. It's always about what that player needs to 706 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: do to solidify his legacy. But I think social media 707 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: the noise and social media is so because players live 708 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: in social media, and so that is a noise that 709 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, when you came into the least I players 710 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: have to deal with that. Like, think about this, if 711 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: you were a player, say you're Michael Jordan, right, You're 712 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, and I'm a fan. Say I'm a fan 713 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: of Michael Jordan. If I wanted to try to reach 714 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, first of all, we were we were you know, 715 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: we were poor, We weren't get any tickets. But if 716 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: I want to try to reach with him, I was 717 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: write him a letter and send it via mail. And 718 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: what's the chance of Michael Jordan reading my letter? Of 719 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: the millions that Jordan ain't reading that, so you couldn't 720 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: get to him. So players backing up those days, not 721 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 1: just players, stars, movie stars or whatever, you had people 722 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: around you that would kind of feel you in on 723 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: just how people feel about you. You know, just just 724 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: just check the vibe around the world about what they're 725 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: saying about you, your brand and whatever your people told you. 726 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: You believed it and be like it was okay. But 727 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: you didn't have to deal with hearing Joe's Moe and Minnesota, 728 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 1: Ben Bruce in Miami, or you didn't hear that type 729 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 1: of stuff. You know, you didn't, you weren't bothered by it. 730 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: And those are the people. Those are the same people, 731 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: the same people that would try to get at you 732 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: back in the day, but they couldn't if they saw 733 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: you in person, they wouldn't do anything but ask for 734 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 1: an autograph, for a picture. But the noise of today 735 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: where they can actually get to you. They can actually 736 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: hop in your mentions, they can hop in your dms, 737 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,919 Speaker 1: they can talk all that shit, they can talk all 738 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: of it to you. And these players, they see it 739 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: that they live in it, and it gets into them. 740 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: And that's why I think, you know, there's a you know, 741 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: we're having a lot of you have a lot of 742 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: players with issues with depression and anxiety. You know all 743 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: this social media plays a big part, plays a big 744 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: part in that. And it's tough. It's just a different error. 745 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 1: It's a different area with these players are playing amongst 746 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: and um it's it's in a lot of ways, it's 747 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: very it's very much tougher. And I know a lot 748 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: of older guys I don't like to hear that, oh 749 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: we had, it's a different animals. Charles Barkley will not 750 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: get on social media because he know is going to 751 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: trick or something, He's going to go off on you 752 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: and say something, tweet something at you. So he was 753 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: advised not to get on social media and he is 754 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: fine with that. So I think that's why that's another 755 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: big reason why the noise is louder today. Yeah, look 756 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 1: I gotta and you know I'm by no means innocent here, 757 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm guilty too. I look at the standings, I see 758 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 1: where Portland is, and my instinct automatically is Dame has 759 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 1: got to be miserable. The guy is playing, he's maybe 760 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: having his best statistical season individually, and they are, you know, 761 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: entering Thursday night's play, they were two and a half 762 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: games out of a playing spot and having lost four 763 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: in a row and heading in the wrong direction, and 764 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: it just seems like it's it's just sad that Dame 765 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: has come out of the surgery as well as he 766 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:08,240 Speaker 1: has playing just absolutely fantastic, just an offensive marvel. And 767 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, they, you know, they thought they had upgraded 768 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: the team around him, and they're they're they're more than 769 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,399 Speaker 1: a move or two away the way this looks right now. 770 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: So I mean, I do it too, And you know 771 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't know him like you do. So it sounds 772 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: like when you listen, you listen to him with us, 773 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 1: you listen to him with JJ Reddick and I you know, 774 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: it's it's a great skill for him if he can 775 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: tune out the noise because a lot of people are wondering, Okay, 776 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: thirteen games left for the Portland Trail Blazers. They are 777 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: see two and a half games back of the final 778 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,439 Speaker 1: play in spot. It's not looking good for him right now. 779 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: Dame is doing his thing. It's team wise. They still 780 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: i mean new GM, but still facing some of the 781 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: same obstacles of not having h not having the pieces 782 00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: needed to to be a real threat. So I'll say 783 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: this Dame has about I'm gonna say he gotta probably 784 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: about five or six more games left before Portland probably 785 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: shut them down for the season. There there's no use 786 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: of playing the duration of these games, so look out 787 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: for that. Things keep these next five six games, they 788 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 1: they keep struggling. I was saying he's gonna be okay 789 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: with that, because I mean, he's really been fighting that 790 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: notion of playing for draft. I mean, he's gonna have 791 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,919 Speaker 1: to He's gonna have to be okay if they're not. 792 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 1: If they're not in contention to jump in that player, 793 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, at that point it's not it's probably not 794 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: worth it. So that's what I'm saying. These next five 795 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: six games, you know, we'll see if they can make 796 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: some ground. If they don't make any ground, then I 797 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: think you got to pull the plug. I think that's 798 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: what's going to happen if the results are not that good. 799 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,720 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we covered a lot of ground today. 800 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: Is usually went in some surprising directions that I did 801 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 1: not anticipate. But that's ah. That is Chris Haynes's particular talent. 802 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: He gets me. I like to map it out, and 803 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,479 Speaker 1: he likes to get me off the map. So there 804 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: you go, everybody. 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