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Speaker 8: There was a much hype release of the Epstein files

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Speaker 1: You're watching, right, Indeed, I do yes.

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Speaker 8: You know what's amazing about these exchanges is how far

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Speaker 7: But I think we have a good idea.

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Speaker 8: One of the greatest investigative journals I've ever worked with,

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Speaker 8: these the Associated he's the director of research at the

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Speaker 8: Government Accountability Institute. He's an author of that great book

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Speaker 8: Controller Guards. He's my good friend, Seamous Brinter Seamous, Welcome

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Speaker 4: Hey, John, Amanda, it's so good to see you.

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Speaker 8: I think everybody thought, hey, we're getting the Epstein client list,

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Speaker 10: So it's not a sign of guilt that someone flew

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Speaker 3: Do you think we'll ever find out exactly who was

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Speaker 8: Multiple members of Congress have come on this show Shamus

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Speaker 7: Surveil our president.

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Speaker 10: You know, Conservative have been fighting for reducing the size

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Speaker 8: to have you. Seamus, thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 8: John You're a CEO in an earlier life, Elon Musk

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Speaker 7: You, You really do.

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Speaker 11: And again I could not give President Trump and Elon

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Speaker 2: This DOJE effort is brilliant.

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Speaker 11: ten years. So no, the Senate budget is pretty aggressive. Now, again,

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Speaker 11: a budget blueprint is a long way from passing the

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Speaker 11: legislation to actually accomplish the goal. Unfortunately, the House budget

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Speaker 11: at most contemplates going from seven point three to seven

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Speaker 11: point one. So it maybe sounds like two trillion dollars

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Speaker 11: to savings over ten years, two hundred billion dollars a

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Speaker 11: year from what seven point three gives you seven point one.

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Speaker 11: And again I appreciate the difficult nature. I think, you know,

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Speaker 11: really really respect to Speaker Johnson, you know, the House

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Speaker 11: members that are trying to cobblegether majority with a very

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Speaker 11: slim margin, but it's just not adequate.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's amazing, But you're right.

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Speaker 8: The Senate would actually actually get right into that territory

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Speaker 8: where you were hunting originally, and that's a good sign,

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Speaker 8: and that would really make a lasting difference. Do you

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Speaker 8: think people are starting to realize when they hear the

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Speaker 8: fact that just the debt services of trillion dollars a

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Speaker 8: year now but more than we spend on national defense,

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Speaker 8: that people are starting to get worried about this mountain

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Speaker 8: of debt.

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Speaker 7: And does that.

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Speaker 8: Add some extra pressure on lawmakers and politicians to go harder, deeper,

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Speaker 8: and farther than they've ever contemplated.

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Speaker 11: Well, what we have for the first time on on

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Speaker 11: the conservative side, is we have Elon Musk's bullhorn. You know,

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Speaker 11: I've been preaching this since I got here, but the

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Speaker 11: mainstream media just ignores that. They're you know, they talked

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Speaker 11: about something that will undermine the conservative cause. So you

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Speaker 11: finally have Elon Musk with his powerful communication platform highlighting

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Speaker 11: all these areas.

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Speaker 2: So the Americans are paying attention. But is a majority?

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Speaker 11: Is a majority or are a majority Americans paying attention?

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Speaker 11: Are they outraged by this? Uh, we're not going to

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Speaker 11: know until we actually, uh start putting this into legislation

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Speaker 11: and just see what kind of reaction the public has.

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Speaker 11: But the public should be outraged and how their tax

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Speaker 11: dollars and the money we're borrowing on their behalf mortgage

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Speaker 11: of their future, with how it is being wasted. Uh,

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Speaker 11: you know, time and time and time again, you know,

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Speaker 11: line on the by line in by the way, go

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Speaker 11: to doge dot gov. It's a great website. It shows you,

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Speaker 11: contract by contract by contract, exactly what this money was

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Speaker 11: earmarked for was already been spent on these stupid contracts

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Speaker 11: about DEI and all that kind of crap. So again

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Speaker 11: they're doges just doing phenomenal work. It's a brilliant, brilliant idea.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a disruption that's going to cause decades of

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Speaker 8: benefit to this country when it gets completed, it's really

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Speaker 8: something you continue to fight relentlessly for transparency on issues

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Speaker 8: we all need, vaccine safety. I know we're a month

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Speaker 8: into the Trump presidency. I think you're still trying to

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Speaker 8: get the Archives to turn over those email alias as

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Speaker 8: I sued over two and a.

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Speaker 7: Half years ago.

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Speaker 8: Can you give us en up to date on what

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Speaker 8: you and Senator Grossi doing to get those records and

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Speaker 8: why they're still important to the American public.

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Speaker 11: Well, I just met with a new Director of the Archives,

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Speaker 11: somebody absolutely dedicated to, you know, being transparent, So very

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Speaker 11: encouraged from maast point. Literally before I just got on

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Speaker 11: this podcast with you, I got a call from Bobby

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Speaker 11: Kennedy reassuring me that, you know, he's dedicated to radical transparency.

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Speaker 11: It's been a little slow with the deep state within HHS.

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Speaker 11: It's going to be difficult for all of these cabinet picks,

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Speaker 11: and they're tremendous individuals and they're all dedicated to radical transparency,

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Speaker 11: but they're dealing with the baroxity that exists, and so

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Speaker 11: there are so many roadblocks and you know, of us, John,

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Speaker 11: you know they can come up with sixteen ways on

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Speaker 11: Sunday to make an excuse him.

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Speaker 2: Well, we can't turn over that.

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Speaker 11: Piece of information, so that's going to take some time

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Speaker 11: to break through. But again, you know, Bobby Kennedy is

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Speaker 11: unbelievably responsive. I told him I was not happy with

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Speaker 11: the production on based on our subpoena or the follow

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Speaker 11: up phone call. I mean he texted me like within

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Speaker 11: thirty seconds of me texting him. He has called me

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Speaker 11: twice since then. I think he's actually shaken things up.

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Speaker 11: We're apparently going to get to some terrorbytes worth of

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Speaker 11: information tomorrow, so it's well, we'll see again. But again,

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Speaker 11: I'm more than willing to give uh, these these new

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Speaker 11: secretaries the time and certainly respect. I know they're dedicated

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Speaker 11: doing this, but they're finding the same geroxy I've been

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Speaker 11: fighting for and that you've been fighting for years.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they're good at hiding, but I think their day

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Speaker 8: is up. The spotlights might finally hit them. I think

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Speaker 8: it's getting closer. The last question I want to ask

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Speaker 8: you about the tariffs are going to kick in soon Canada, Mexico, China.

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Speaker 8: That is going to be a major game change in

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Speaker 8: the way the global economy works and also how America

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Speaker 8: positions itself. What's your expectation And are the American people

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Speaker 8: willing to give the president some room here to implement

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Speaker 8: this of tariff policy so that it has some long

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Speaker 8: term benefit.

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Speaker 11: Well, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, but

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Speaker 11: I have to be honest. I'm concerned manufacturer seer Wisconsin

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Speaker 11: and culture. I mean, last time, you know, dairy farming,

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Speaker 11: we were hurt by the tariffs. So we have manufacturers

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Speaker 11: to compete globally. Their competitors they're not subject to the

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Speaker 11: tariffs on things like stealing aluminum that their components to

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Speaker 11: their products. So our manufacturers can't compete, they can't export. Then, Plus,

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Speaker 11: you know the tariffs are it's a form of a tax.

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Speaker 11: It's and exactly who pays that tax is a subject

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Speaker 11: to dispute, but it certainly can bleed into prices. But

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Speaker 11: President Trump is fully aware that he's got to get

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Speaker 11: inflation out of control. His economic team their first class.

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Speaker 11: So I mean, I'll give them the benefit of doubt.

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Speaker 11: But but but he's well aware of the fact that

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Speaker 11: that I have some concerns and I'll be you know,

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Speaker 11: making sure that his people are are very attuned and

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Speaker 11: are willing to listen to what the fallout may be

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Speaker 11: from this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he admits there's going to be pain.

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Speaker 11: Hopefully his administration he will do everything he can do

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Speaker 11: alleviate that pain.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's going to be to be watched and see you.

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Speaker 8: At least you're listening to your constituents, which is so important. Senator,

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Speaker 8: always a great honor to having the show. He's always

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Speaker 8: learned a lot, and it's so good to see the

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Speaker 8: impact you've had in getting some radical transparency.

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Speaker 2: Go good to have you on today every day.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, sir. All Right, folks, you.

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Speaker 8: Got a lot more ahead of us, including a budget,

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Speaker 8: government transparency with Congresswoman mary Nette Miller meets Avaya, which

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Speaker 8: is one of our favorites.

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Speaker 7: She'll be on right after these messages.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 3: I know that dog seems to be in the news

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Speaker 3: cycle a lot, and it hasn't really gone anywhere, and

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Speaker 3: that's because there is just the sheer volume of waste,

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Speaker 3: fraud and abuse I think is staggering to the American people.

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Speaker 3: And what has come out even in just this first month,

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Speaker 3: I think is going to move the needle in a

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Speaker 3: direction that's very beneficial for the American people. And someone

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Speaker 3: who is always fighting for the American people to know

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Speaker 3: all of the spending that happens within our government, the overspending,

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Speaker 3: which is pretty much.

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Speaker 1: All of it.

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Speaker 3: Congresswoman from the great state of Iowa, Marionette Miller Meekes, Congresswoman,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 12: Thank you so much, Amandon John, It's great to be

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Speaker 12: with you.

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Speaker 3: With you, I have one concern about everything that is

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Speaker 3: coming out about DOGE, and it is that at the

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Speaker 3: end of this process, when the American people find out

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Speaker 3: all of the shenanigans, all of the ways frauden abuse,

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Speaker 3: all the ridiculous dollars sent overseas, that if that's if

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Speaker 3: that apparatus that allowed that to happen in the first

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Speaker 3: place is still in place, then when Donald Trump leaves

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Speaker 3: the Oval Office, they're just going to backfill with more

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Speaker 3: ridiculous programs. How does Congress ensure that that can't happen again.

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, I think that's great to be thinking

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Speaker 12: ahead of that process, and we know that it's scaring

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Speaker 12: a lot of people. So I had Senator Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 12: in my district last Saturday attacking me. We had an

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Speaker 12: Energy and Commerce hearing on Tuesday, all we were doing

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Speaker 12: was voting for the rule to.

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Speaker 2: Allow us to do oversight.

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Speaker 12: That hearing went thirteen hours because of Democrat amendments, many

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Speaker 12: of them attacking Elon Musk and Doge. And so we know,

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Speaker 12: as you know, the process by which they are doing

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Speaker 12: this to get access to you know, the line items

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Speaker 12: and treasury is different than what we can do as

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Speaker 12: Congress people. And so it has uncovered where some spending

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Speaker 12: has gone where it was not supposed to go or

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Speaker 12: that none of us would want. So I think we

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Speaker 12: have to number one, be very you know, Congress has

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Speaker 12: to do its job and be very literal and very

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Speaker 12: detailed and put a preambled on where we expect spending

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Speaker 12: to go, what our intent is, and what it should

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Speaker 12: be doing. So we need to be better at that.

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Speaker 12: The Chevron Doctrine, as you know, that was ruled on

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Speaker 12: by the Supreme Court last year, that is going to

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Speaker 12: help us. And so knowing that, you know, the agencies

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Speaker 12: and people within agencies aren't necessarily experts and they should

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Speaker 12: not be deferred to to make up rules which have

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Speaker 12: the effect of laws, that's going to help us too.

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Speaker 12: So we've got those tools in our toolbox. And we

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Speaker 12: need to utilize those So those are new things. And

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Speaker 12: then I think what's very important, and I learned this

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Speaker 12: when I was director of the Department Public Health. People

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Speaker 12: don't look at the heads of agencies, either in state

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Speaker 12: government or in the federal government, and then all the

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Speaker 12: people within the bureaucracy, and you know what, those people

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Speaker 12: are critically important. You need to put talented, knowledgeable people

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Speaker 12: in good secretaries, good directors in state government, and then

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Speaker 12: they need to watch what rulemaking.

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Speaker 2: Comes out of their departments. So it is very important.

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Speaker 12: And you need to fill those slots in the bureaucracy

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Speaker 12: so you have people that are looking to do your policies,

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Speaker 12: your agenda. We need people within government agencies that want

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Speaker 12: to help President Trump and US put forward an America

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Speaker 12: First agenda.

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Speaker 2: You cannot leave those slots empty.

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Speaker 12: You fill them with your people, with your supporters, and

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Speaker 12: then maybe some people leave the government of their own accord.

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Speaker 8: Ronald Reagan Steam needs to be fond of saying personnel

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Speaker 8: is policy. And I think that's exactly the point. You

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Speaker 8: just made.

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Speaker 7: A great point.

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Speaker 8: You and Senator johny Earns, two great isowands working together.

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Speaker 8: An important piece of legislation demanding disclosure of.

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Speaker 7: Delayed and over budget government projects.

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Speaker 8: I suspect this is going to be a really big list,

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Speaker 8: how about you?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it is.

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Speaker 12: And so as you all know, our governor, our great governor,

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Speaker 12: Kim Retles was doing doge before doge became a thing,

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Speaker 12: making government both more efficient and more effective. How do

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Speaker 12: we deliver services more effectively but with less dollars and

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Speaker 12: with less waste, fraud and abuse. Senator Ernst came in

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Speaker 12: to the Senate wanting to cut government spending. And so

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Speaker 12: this bill is part and parcel. We introduced it last year.

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Speaker 12: We got it through the House, we could not get

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Speaker 12: it through the Senate, the Democrat controlled Senate.

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Speaker 2: No surprise there.

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Speaker 12: And so you know now we have an opportunity to

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Speaker 12: do what we wanted to do last year.

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Speaker 2: I think it is a great bill.

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Speaker 12: It allows us to conduct the oversight that you know

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Speaker 12: Amanda mentioned. We have to make sure these things stay

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Speaker 12: in place once you know, doze, if it's dismantled or

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Speaker 12: Elon Musk goes back to do the inventive, creative, entrepreneurial

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Speaker 12: stuff that he does.

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Speaker 2: We need to make sure that there are processes.

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Speaker 12: And policies and laws in place that allows us to

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Speaker 12: conduct oversight and get information that you know, having to

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Speaker 12: file a Freedom of Information Act request, and as you

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Speaker 12: know and talked about with Senator Johnson, you can file,

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Speaker 12: you can ask. I mean, I've had a letter come

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Speaker 12: back nine months after I.

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Speaker 2: Made an infray to a government agency.

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Speaker 12: We actually had the hearing the day and I said,

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Speaker 12: are you going to respond to my letter that I

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Speaker 12: sent nine months ago? So I think this is a

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Speaker 12: very important way that we can continue to monitor, have

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Speaker 12: law and legislation in place to make sure we're conducting

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Speaker 12: oversight and we're getting information that we request.

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Speaker 1: Conrashe before we let you go.

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Speaker 3: You know, the American people are obviously on board with

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Speaker 3: spending less, cutting more, getting out the ways for adden abuse.

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Speaker 1: The American people obviously support that.

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Speaker 3: However, if the American people don't actually feel the effects

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Speaker 3: of what's happening right now, then I don't know how

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Speaker 3: much they will support it in the future. When it

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Speaker 3: comes to the framework the budget resolution that was passed

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Speaker 3: a few days ago, I know that's just a blueprint

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Speaker 3: for what can be cut and what needs to be

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Speaker 3: spent going forward.

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Speaker 12: Did to go far enough for you? It went far enough.

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Speaker 12: I think you we have a House that would like

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Speaker 12: more cuts. We have a Senate that might be a

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Speaker 12: little more tempered. But remember, you know, everybody has a

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Speaker 12: different district. So I have had protests in my district.

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Speaker 12: I've had TV attack ads in January and now, as

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Speaker 12: I mentioned, I had Bernie Sanders in my district one Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I have the afl CIO in my.

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Speaker 12: District today protesting protesting me. The Democrats have been driving

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Speaker 12: people there and we found out I think there is

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Speaker 12: some information that George Soros and some other individuals are

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Speaker 12: helping to pay people and generate these protests. We had

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Speaker 12: protests at my office in Davenport on Tuesday and the

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Speaker 12: week before, and so there is a lot of that activity,

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Speaker 12: a lot of attacks, and then there's also people that

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Speaker 12: are genuinely concerned about the pace of things that are happening.

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Speaker 12: So I think with the cabinet secretaries in place now,

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Speaker 12: they're going to work to help find where government employees

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Speaker 12: aren't doing, or they're not needed, or they're retiring and

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Speaker 12: they don't have to have a position field. So I

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Speaker 12: think with the cabinet secretaries, along with those working with

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Speaker 12: Congress and keeping us abreast of things, so we know

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Speaker 12: you know what's coming at us. I think those things

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Speaker 12: are going to be very helpful. But to your point,

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Speaker 12: we don't get the border closed and we don't get

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Speaker 12: prices down and a growing economy.

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Speaker 2: You know, people support may Wane.

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Speaker 12: Iowa suffered with the terrorists last time with our ag economy,

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Speaker 12: so they have some concerns. We've heard about it, and

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Speaker 12: it's not massive. They're trusting the process right now. So

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Speaker 12: as I said on my telephone town hall, breathe, stay calm,

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Speaker 12: you know, watchful, waiting and don't believe everything you read

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Speaker 3: Lackay Congress Phoe and Mary and Ett Miller makes from

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Speaker 3: the great state of Iowa.

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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to have you here. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: All right, everybody, we're going to say quick grateful.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back on the other side.

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Speaker 8: Hey, folks, did you know that American homeowners have over

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody to just the News, no Noise. President Trump, Elon,

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Speaker 3: Muskandozer off to a good start and identifying fraud, waste,

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Speaker 3: and abuse in our government.

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Speaker 1: But Congress has to play its part two.

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Speaker 3: And there's actually one move from the past that we

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Speaker 3: can look to surprisingly made under President Obama that could

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Speaker 3: help the government rein in the wasteful spending.

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Speaker 1: And with us to explain just what that move is.

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Speaker 3: The CEO of Opened the Books, the government watchdog tracking

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Speaker 3: wasteful spending, John Hart. John, great to have you here,

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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: You know, I see what DOGE is doing, and it's

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Speaker 3: really wonderful for the American people to have transparency in this.

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Speaker 1: Type of thing. But I got to say, open the books.

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Speaker 1: You guys have been doing this since before it was cool.

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Speaker 13: We have well, thankfully, you know Senator Coburn work with

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Speaker 13: a Vin Senator Obama and a bill called the Federal

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Speaker 13: Funding Accountability Transparency Act, and that put all federal spending

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Speaker 13: online and created USA Spending and so much of what

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Speaker 13: you see right now in real time, criticizing grants, asking

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Speaker 13: hard questions. That ecosystem was enabled by legislation that Senator

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Speaker 13: Covid wrote and put into law, and Doge is taking

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Speaker 13: that and really, and that's really the basis of support

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Speaker 13: that they have among the electorate. And I had this

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Speaker 13: metaphor that transparency cuts through the government like water cuts

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Speaker 13: through stone. When it finds cracks, it can wipe away

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Speaker 13: mighty walls of opposition. So as that flow of information

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Speaker 13: keeps going through your outlet, through others, through our organization

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Speaker 13: and the whole ecosystem of groups, it's going to put

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Speaker 13: a lot of pressure on policymakers to make durable, lasting cuts.

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Speaker 2: And that's really what people want to see happen.

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Speaker 13: You know, President Trump was elected with a mandate to

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Speaker 13: make people's lives easier in the day of to day.

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Speaker 2: It's not an abstraction. People want to.

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Speaker 13: Pay less for groceries, they want lower inflation. And one

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Speaker 13: of the most important ways to do that, besides cutting taxes,

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Speaker 13: is to cut spending and to reduce the pressure that

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Speaker 13: people feel in their daily lives through overspending in Washington.

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Speaker 8: Such a great point, John, you have done over the

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Speaker 8: course of your care. A lot of work to show

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Speaker 8: that isn't just the spending that adds a burden on

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Speaker 8: the American people, and also the regulatory state adding regulations

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Speaker 8: that further add burden to the American people. The Rains

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Speaker 8: Act got slipped into this a budget blueprint. It's a

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Speaker 8: pretty significant opportunity. How important is it for the Senate

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Speaker 8: to include that in the final report?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, John, that's that's I mentally portant.

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Speaker 13: I think you know, one of the problems we have

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Speaker 13: when we talk about these numbers is people think of

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Speaker 13: it as a fixed pie, but the pie is not fixed.

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Speaker 2: You want the pie to grow.

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Speaker 13: And one of the ways to deal with our deficit problem,

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Speaker 13: and when you have we're spending more on interest on

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Speaker 13: the debt that we are on defense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a national security thread. So you have

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Speaker 2: to grow the economy and.

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Speaker 13: Shrink the waste as a proportion of what the economy is.

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Speaker 13: And deregulation is the key way to do that. And

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Speaker 13: you know, one of the pieces I just wrote is

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Speaker 13: on ear marks and how we got you know, during

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Speaker 13: the earmark ban era from twenty eleven to twenty one,

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Speaker 13: that saved about one hundred and forty one billion dollars

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Speaker 13: otherwise money that would have been spent, and it led

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Speaker 13: to the first real year to year decreases in spending

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Speaker 13: since the end of the Korean War. But it also

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Speaker 13: focused Congress's attention on all of the other things that

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Speaker 13: they need to do to get all the regulation off

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Speaker 13: of people's back so that the economy can grow. So

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Speaker 13: I would love to see Doge, you know, bring the

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Speaker 13: earmark band back, push for that, and also look at

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Speaker 13: things like regulation with an EPA, where there's the National

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Speaker 13: Environmental Policy Act hasn't been updated in fifty years. There's

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Speaker 13: all kinds of great energy projects that have been blocked,

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Speaker 13: often by environmental groups by the way, that would unleash

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Speaker 13: energy abundance and lower prices get the economy going.

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Speaker 2: And you've got to do both. You've got to deal

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Speaker 2: with the spending side.

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Speaker 13: And also get rid of regulations that are choking economic

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Speaker 13: growth and innovation and creativity.

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Speaker 2: One two punch, Yeah, John.

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Speaker 3: The Democrat Party looks very different from even just Barack Obama.

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Speaker 3: But the fact that Barack Obama was on board with

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Speaker 3: at least a moratorium on earmarks tells me that maybe

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Speaker 3: there could be some Democrat support and bipartisan support for.

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Speaker 2: That on Capitol Hill. Yeah, that's a great point.

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Speaker 13: And one of the things that was not getting enough

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Speaker 13: attention right now is as John remembers well when he

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Speaker 13: was covering us through the Tea Party era, is today

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Speaker 13: there has been a major political realignment.

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Speaker 2: So one of the reasons why we didn't.

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Speaker 13: Cut as much as we wanted to fifteen years ago,

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Speaker 13: and going farther back, during the Reagan years, the Grace

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Speaker 13: Commission found that one out of every three tax dollars

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Speaker 13: was wasted, and of course that did at lead to

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Speaker 13: big cuts. There were tremendous growth during the Reagan years.

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Speaker 13: We won the Cold War, but we didn't cut spending.

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Speaker 13: And the reason I'm optimistic now and I think we

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Speaker 13: could get Democrats is that, you know, the part of

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Speaker 13: the working class is now the GOP, so that those

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Speaker 13: roles have flipped. So when Democrats with demagogus fifteen years

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Speaker 13: ago for wanting to cut you know, social services, cut programs,

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Speaker 13: and they had the prey of horribles of how you know,

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Speaker 13: reducing agency spending would lead to food, food borne illnesses

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Speaker 13: and so on and so forth. You know, who are

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Speaker 13: they talking to now? They've lost the room. Are they

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Speaker 13: talking to the faculty lounge university? So are they talking

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Speaker 13: to the green room? And media shows and so no

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Speaker 13: one's really listening to their arguments. And so I think

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Speaker 13: that that gives you know, smart Democrats on a look

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Speaker 13: at that and realize there has been a real life

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Speaker 13: and that they ought to get on the right side

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Speaker 13: of the voters.

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Speaker 2: And the sooner they do that, that the sooner they're

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Speaker 2: going to find.

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Speaker 13: Their way out of the wilderness, which is which is

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Speaker 13: what any smart political party would do.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if they don't find a way to realign,

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Speaker 3: in the words of mister t I pity the fool,

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Speaker 3: because I don't know what the future for their party

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Speaker 3: even looks like. John, Thank you so much for being here. Everybody,

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Speaker 3: go check out their organization, open the books. You will

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Speaker 3: find out some astounding and frankly appalling pa. All right, everybody,

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Speaker 3: we'll be right back after this break.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 3: Let's stay on DOGE for a moment, because they have

881
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Speaker 3: already seen some success at the federal level. But what

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Speaker 3: about individual states implementing their own version of DOGE?

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Speaker 1: Is it a good idea?

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Speaker 3: The man joining us now thinks that it certainly is,

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Speaker 3: especially in Ohio. He is Ohio Secretary of State as

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Speaker 3: well as candidate for Ohio Auditor of State.

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Speaker 1: Frank Leros our great friend. Thank you so much from

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Speaker 1: me and here, sir.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, man, it's about transparency, efficiency, and accountability, things that

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Speaker 6: we always need more of in government. One of the

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Speaker 6: things that we have here in Ohio is that our

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Speaker 6: state auditor has the power to perform a process audit

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Speaker 6: to come in and look at how local and state

894
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Speaker 6: agencies are operating. Are they overstaffed, are they using bad

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Speaker 6: old technology or just antiquated processes. And that's exactly what

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Speaker 6: I plan to do as the Auditor of State.

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Speaker 5: I'm calling it o Doge.

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Speaker 6: We're trying to bring some government efficiency to the Buckeye State.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's going to be an exciting thing.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure all the ills that we see in a

901
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Speaker 8: federal government there'll be some found of the Ohio is

902
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Speaker 8: a pretty efficient state, but I think you're going to

903
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Speaker 8: find some great things.

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Speaker 7: Another place where you've been very efficient is in the courts.

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Speaker 7: Here you have championed election.

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Speaker 8: Integrity, and I think a lot of people look at

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Speaker 8: Ohio say it's one of the gold standard states for

908
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Speaker 8: how you.

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Speaker 7: Do election integrity.

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Speaker 8: But the love keeps suing you, and I don't think

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Speaker 8: you're getting tired of win it. I think that like

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Speaker 8: eight or nine, and oh aren't you.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 6: We've been going up against the likes of Mark Elias

915
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Speaker 6: and the ACLU, and we've been winning because we don't

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Speaker 6: settle these lawsuits.

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Speaker 5: We fight these lawsuits.

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Speaker 6: When they come and try to sue your state or

919
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Speaker 6: my state. When they're suing their chief elections officer. They're

920
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Speaker 6: trying to make election law at the courthouse. That's not

921
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Speaker 6: where it should be made. Election law should be made.

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Speaker 5: At the state house.

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Speaker 6: They literally sued me last year saying that we should

924
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Speaker 6: accept a driver's license that says non citizen on it.

925
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Speaker 6: Of course, we went and fought and won that one,

926
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Speaker 6: and then the Biden administration was attempting to reaponize the

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Speaker 6: federal government to use it to do voter registration and

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Speaker 6: turnout to benefit the Democrats. I joined in a lawsuit

929
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Speaker 6: with the America First Policy Institute to sue the Biden administration.

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Speaker 6: Of course, thankfully, because of President Trump's.

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Speaker 5: Executive order undoing all of.

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Speaker 6: That nonsense from Biden, that lawsuit now.

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Speaker 5: Can be declared a victory effect.

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Speaker 6: It was declared moot just recently by the court, and

935
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Speaker 6: so put another one in the win column.

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Speaker 1: I love another check, Sir.

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Speaker 3: Ohio has done such a tremendous job with cleaning up

938
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Speaker 3: elections under your tenure as Secretary of State, and I

939
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Speaker 3: know that states of their own administrators of their elections.

940
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Speaker 3: But on the federal level, there are security measures that

941
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Speaker 3: can be implemented. Have seen a number of pieces of

942
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Speaker 3: proposed legislation on the Republican side.

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Speaker 1: What can Capitol Hill learn from Ohio about it?

944
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was talking with the House Admin Committee about

945
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 6: this not too long ago. I'm hopeful that they will

946
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Speaker 6: pass the Save Act to give us better tools to

947
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Speaker 6: identify non citizens on the voter ruals.

948
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Speaker 5: And remove them.

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Speaker 6: We're already doing a good job of that in Ohio,

950
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Speaker 6: but we need we need more, and I think that

951
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Speaker 6: there are some best practices that can be incentivized as well.

952
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Speaker 6: I'm also looking forward to working with Secretary Nome at

953
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Speaker 6: the Department of Homeland Security to improve this thing called

954
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Speaker 6: the SAVE database. It is this antiquated, old database that

955
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 6: we have to use right now to look up who's

956
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 6: a citizen and who's not. And I know that her

957
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 6: team is going to want to work with us to

958
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Speaker 6: improve that so that chief elections officers in every state

959
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 6: can do a better job of prevent seeing non citizens

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Speaker 6: from voting.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 8: I want to turn to another topic. I know it's

963
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Speaker 8: close to your former greenbroy You served this country bravely.

964
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Speaker 8: President Trump is really reating rebuilding the military with Pete

965
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Speaker 8: Hexfs his lead man on the job, your early thoughts

966
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Speaker 8: of just some of the early policy decisions and getting

967
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 8: back that war fighting machine to its best fitness.

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Speaker 6: Well, as you know, I'm a reservist still in the Army,

969
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 6: so I'm not going to speak in that capacity, but

970
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 6: as a citizen and as an officeholder, I do talk

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Speaker 6: to a lot of my friends that are serving on.

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Speaker 5: Active duty, and they're excited. They signed up to serve

973
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Speaker 5: in the armed forces.

974
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Speaker 6: Because they want to defend our American way of life.

975
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 6: They want to contribute to protecting our nation, and they

976
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 6: were dismayed by the nonsense that had been going on

977
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 6: over the last few years where the left was trying

978
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Speaker 6: to turn our defense department into some kind of a

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Speaker 6: social experiment. Our job is to meet the enemies of

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Speaker 6: our country and to defeat them on the field of battle.

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Speaker 6: And that's exactly what President Trump is tuning up the

982
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Speaker 6: Defense Department to be re focused on. That's what Secretary

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00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 6: Haig Seth is focusing on as well. We're the most

984
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 6: lethal fighting force on the planet. We don't need to

985
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 6: be spending our time on DEI nonsense, absolutely, I.

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Speaker 3: Think you're already starting to see a shift at least

987
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: in recruitment after the election. Before President Trump was even

988
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: in office, had already started seeing it up. Tick Sara,

989
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about someone who has tossed

990
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: their hat in the ring for a governor in the

991
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: state of how you guys have done such a great

992
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 3: job with election integrity and now you are now no

993
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 3: longer a purple state, You're a red state and Viveka

994
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 3: is running there.

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00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: What do you think.

996
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 6: Well, I've been out on the road with my friend

997
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 6: Viveke Ramaswami the last couple of days. I was kind

998
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 6: of a warm up act out on the road as

999
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 6: he was making his announcement tour.

1000
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 5: I'm proud to announce.

1001
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 6: That he's endorsed me for Auditor of State, and of

1002
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 6: course I'm supporting him.

1003
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 5: Listen. I learned this in the military.

1004
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 6: There are leaders you follow because you have to, they've

1005
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 6: got more rank than you do. And then there are

1006
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 6: those leaders and this is rare who you follow because

1007
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 6: you want to. You would run through a wall for

1008
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 6: these people, because they've got a vision, they've got the

1009
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 6: courage to actually see it through. Vavek Ramaswami is that

1010
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 6: kind of leader. He is going to turn Ohio into

1011
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 6: a state of excellence and I look forward to being

1012
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 6: by his side as.

1013
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 4: We do that.

1014
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 8: And you're getting a lot of endorsements too, a pretty

1015
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 8: prominent guy in Congress, but put his name behind you,

1016
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 8: Jim Jordan, that's a big one. The Ohio ticket looks

1017
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 8: pretty solidified this early a year and a half into

1018
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 8: the next election.

1019
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 7: That's a pretty good part of unity. What's going on

1020
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 7: behind the scenes.

1021
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 6: Well, I tell you what, We've got some great talent

1022
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 6: in Ohio and I'm just proud to be part of

1023
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 6: what is becoming a really strong statewide ticket. I think

1024
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 6: Vivek is going to be our clear nominee for governor.

1025
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 6: He's got President Trump's support, and we've got great people

1026
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 6: falling into the roles of attorney general and.

1027
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 5: My replacement as Secretary of State.

1028
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 6: We've got turn limits in Ohio, and it's a good

1029
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 6: thing for us to be unified. Listen, you don't need

1030
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 6: to be a ballistics expert to know that everyone gets

1031
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 6: wounded in a circular firing squad. So hopefully we can

1032
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 6: have some unity in the conservative side of the Republican

1033
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 6: Party and we can go forward and fight and.

1034
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 5: Win these races in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, very quickly, before we let you go.

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Speaker 3: We're seeing a lot to protest here on the federal

1037
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: level when it comes to doze. If you do o

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Speaker 3: doge in Ohio, do you think you're going to have

1039
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: a lot of protests there as well.

1040
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 5: If I don't, I'm not doing my job.

1041
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 6: Well, Listen, in order to make some omelets, you got

1042
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 6: to break some eggs, and there are going to be

1043
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 6: people that are upset about it. They're going to be

1044
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 6: folks that think that they have.

1045
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 5: Some sort of a right to a job in the

1046
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Speaker 5: state or federal government.

1047
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Speaker 6: That they don't even have to show up to and

1048
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 6: where they can't even tell you what five things they've

1049
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 6: accomplished this week. Well, I tell you what, we don't

1050
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Speaker 6: run it that way at the Secretary of State's office.

1051
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 5: We need to get local and all other entities of.

1052
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 6: State government to operate with the same kind of efficiency.

1053
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Speaker 7: O do Jomlet, I'm all in Ohio.

1054
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: Secretary of Saint frank LeRose, thank you so much for

1055
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: being here.

1056
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Speaker 1: Sarah, I can't, for the life of me.

1057
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Speaker 3: Understand why people are so mad about getting rid of

1058
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Speaker 3: rid of waste fraud in the views and you think

1059
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: that they would be happy, maybe they would be saved

1060
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: some money stuff anyway, maybe they're getting someone's life. All right,

1061
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Speaker 3: that's all we have for tonight. Grant Sinshield is going

1062
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Speaker 3: to take you to the next hour see tomorrow.