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Speaker 2: A wellness focused podcast reconnect with everyone from your favorite

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Speaker 1: hard for me to like accept that help, you know,

442
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Speaker 1: wanting to do it all, but like leaning into my

443
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Speaker 1: support system and also like saying no, that's really hard

444
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Speaker 1: for me, you know, saying that, you know, I just

445
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Speaker 1: can't do that right now, or I'm going to have

446
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Speaker 1: to come back to it. You know, that's been huge

447
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Speaker 1: for me. I still am working on it, but that

448
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Speaker 1: was big. And then just also like setting aside time

449
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Speaker 1: for myself, you know, whether that's like just some moments

450
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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the day right in my gratitude journal,

451
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Speaker 1: like sometimes I need the reminder that I.

452
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Speaker 3: Need to do those things. It's not lost on me.

453
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Speaker 2: The irony of someone telling you, Alice and Felix, that

454
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Speaker 2: you need to slow down.

455
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Speaker 3: You're like, it's true, though, Oh my gosh.

456
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Speaker 2: So then, I mean, when you came out and spoke

457
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Speaker 2: your truth to dial back a little bit to Nike

458
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Speaker 2: and the whole New York Times piece came out at

459
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Speaker 2: that time, did you even have the foundational idea of

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Speaker 2: what sayshe would become.

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't even have the idea of saishe you know,

462
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Speaker 1: and at that time, it was just it came about,

463
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Speaker 1: you know, later than that. At that moment, I was

464
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Speaker 1: just consumed in like, Okay, what happens next? You know,

465
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Speaker 1: now I've parted ways with Nike because of this. Eventually,

466
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Speaker 1: you know, they changed their policy, which was amazing and

467
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Speaker 1: great for you know, the women who were coming up

468
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Speaker 1: at that point, But for me, you know, it was

469
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Speaker 1: like kind of like, well, I know that I'm still capable,

470
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Speaker 1: Like I know that I can make it back to

471
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Speaker 1: the Olympics, but I'm in this position where I now

472
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Speaker 1: I don't know where to go and I'm not feeling valued.

473
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Speaker 1: I feel like I got to the point where I

474
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Speaker 1: was just exhausted of like going to these different companies

475
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Speaker 1: and you know, trying to you know, sell myself, see

476
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Speaker 1: the value in me, and it was just like it

477
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Speaker 1: wasn't happening. And then that's when in talking to my brother,

478
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Speaker 1: it was just like I was venting to him about

479
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Speaker 1: all those things, and he was like, well, what if

480
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Speaker 1: we did this ourselves? And I, to me, I think

481
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Speaker 1: I felt like it just felt too big. You know,

482
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Speaker 1: It's like well, I don't think that we could do

483
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Speaker 1: that for whatever reason, you know, and he really empowered me.

484
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Speaker 1: I think also, you know, being around other strong women

485
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Speaker 1: and having mentors in the business world that empowered me

486
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Speaker 1: as well. And I was like, no, like, yeah, I

487
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Speaker 1: can do this, like we can create change, like instead

488
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Speaker 1: of asking somebody else, like, we can do this ourselves.

489
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Speaker 1: And so that's really when you know, the idea was born, and.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of off to the races, one of

491
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Speaker 2: those like why not me moments that we have like

492
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Speaker 2: from time to time, right, And it's funny, right because

493
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Speaker 2: they still take practice. Like you showed up and ran

494
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Speaker 2: so many races and came out on top, and it

495
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Speaker 2: was like you understood, like this is my capability, this

496
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Speaker 2: is mine, I have this.

497
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Speaker 3: But still another opportunity avenue idea.

498
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Speaker 2: Comes down the pipe and we all have these moments

499
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can be so confident in another area,

501
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Speaker 1: you know, like I would never doubt my ability on

502
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Speaker 1: the track, but then moving into a new space and feeling,

503
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Speaker 1: you know, really intimidated and just like I didn't have

504
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Speaker 1: that confidence at the beginning, and it was like, you know,

505
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Speaker 1: really having to look at myself and ask myself why,

506
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Speaker 1: you know, why would I not be capable of doing this.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've been a runner for the past twenty years,

508
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Speaker 1: and I have incredible mentors and incredible you know, people

509
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Speaker 1: to work with and to build with, and so I

510
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: think it was kind of realizing that and then you know,

511
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Speaker 1: being able to move forward and finding my confidence along

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Speaker 2: you said in your ted talk. You said you don't

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Speaker 2: have to be an Olympian to create change for yourself

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Speaker 2: and others. Each of us can bet on ourselves, which

585
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Speaker 2: is really you know, resonating with what we're talking about here,

586
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Speaker 2: because betting on yourself comes with some fear, right, So

587
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Speaker 2: that's what your advice for someone who hears this and

588
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Speaker 2: they're like amped and they're like, I want.

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Speaker 3: To bet on myself, but I'm so scared. Yeah, where

590
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Speaker 3: do they begin? Right? Where do they begin? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think that it's okay to be scared. You know,

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Speaker 1: even when I spoke out, you know, my brother had

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Speaker 1: told me this, this idea of like even if your

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Speaker 1: voice shakes, like you can use it. And I held

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Speaker 1: onto that and I think I continue to hold on

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Speaker 1: to those things. So like, even if you're scared or

597
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Speaker 1: nervous about something, it doesn't mean that you're not capable

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Speaker 1: or you can't do it. And so I think for

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Speaker 1: a lot of us, like it might look different, Like

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Speaker 1: it might not be shouting from the rooftops. It might

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Speaker 1: be having a conversation with a friend or a coworker

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Speaker 1: or you know, being an ally to someone. Like I

603
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Speaker 1: think there's all these different ways that we can start

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Speaker 1: to you know, push for change in you just our

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Speaker 1: everyday life. And so I think also when you're connected

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Speaker 1: to purpose and meaning and you want to bet on

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Speaker 1: yourself and you deeply, you know, had that conviction and

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Speaker 1: believe it, I think that is like that is that

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Speaker 1: feeling that you're moving in the right direction, you know,

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Speaker 1: because you have that belief system.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that belief system can be super, super powerful. I

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Speaker 2: feel the need to just like take a moment here

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge the rare relationship you have with your brother.

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Speaker 2: It's so special to not only have someone that supports

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Speaker 2: you and cheers you on, but sees you for all

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Speaker 2: that you are and recognizes the potential that sometimes you

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Speaker 2: don't see.

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Speaker 3: Just yet, talk to me about what that relationship means

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've always had a really special relationship. I mean

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Speaker 1: we were the classic like fighting, arguing siblings growing up,

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Speaker 1: and then I think somewhere along the line, we're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we can be friends and this is really cool. And

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Speaker 1: you know, we've gotten to work together in different capacities.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's an agent as well, and so we

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Speaker 1: worked together, you know, in that way, and so we

627
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Speaker 1: knew that we worked well together, and so now to

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Speaker 1: be building a company together is incredible.

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Speaker 3: But he's a true big brother. You know.

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Speaker 1: Growing up he was just a fierce protector and he

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Speaker 1: always spoiled me, and it kind of carries over, you know,

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Speaker 1: into a working relationship as well. And now I think

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Speaker 1: we just compliment each other, you know, really well, and

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Speaker 1: we always laugh. It's like we can finish each other

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Speaker 1: sentences at this point. But it's really fun to build together.

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Speaker 1: And he's been on that journey with me, and you know,

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Speaker 1: when I was dealing with all the maternal protections issues,

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Speaker 1: you know, he was the one fighting alongside of me,

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Speaker 1: and so a lot of times, you know, people ask me, well,

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Speaker 1: how can a man be an ally and what can

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Speaker 1: they do? I think he's been the perfect example of that,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's allowed me to use my voice, he's

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Speaker 1: empowered me, he's encouraged me in the company, you know,

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Speaker 1: saying that I'm fully capable and standing alongside of me.

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Speaker 1: So it's really been just incredible to be able to

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Speaker 1: work together, build together, and do something we deeply believe.

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Speaker 2: Last week and it'll all be just over a month

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Speaker 2: by the time this episode comes out. But you recently

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Speaker 2: ran that last hundred meter race coming in second. Can

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Speaker 2: you talk to me about what you think about now

651
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Speaker 1: Just how incredible a day it was. It was a

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Speaker 1: full circle moment for me. So Athleta put on this

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Speaker 1: incredible street race. It was we called it a race

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Speaker 1: for change, and it was literally in Los Angeles. So

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Speaker 1: I'm from Los Angeles and you know, I had my

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Speaker 1: we're kind of like, well, what can we do to

659
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: kind of celebrate and like, how would I want to

660
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: do that? I was like, well, like in a dream world,

661
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: I would love to just be running in the streets

662
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: of LA have my community there, have all the people

663
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: who I love and who have supported me, you know,

664
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: be able to join in the day and it was

665
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: absolutely everything I wanted it to be. You know, it

666
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: was the race, but it was also I hung out

667
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: the entire day, just talked with people and met people

668
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: and kids got to race. My daughter ran, and so

669
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: it was just this incredible celebration of all of the

670
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: years and it'll definitely be unforgettable for me.

671
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: Unforgettable.

672
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: So, now as you shift into kind of assuming other

673
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: titles or filling other buckets up a little bit more,

674
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: what would you say excites you the.

675
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: Most at the moment.

676
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: I mean, my work at saytiaus like is so exciting

677
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: to me. You know, it's kind of that next great challenge,

678
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: and I think when I think about the competitiveness of

679
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: track and field and looking to make sure like there's

680
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: not a void in my life, I kind of see

681
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: that playing the part.

682
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: You know.

683
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm excited to just continue to grow and to find

684
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: new ways to support women and to just be thoughtful

685
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: in what we're creating. And so I'm really inspired by

686
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: my work there. I mean, the top of the top

687
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: is like being mom and being at home and kind

688
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: of things that I'm sure people feel like are really

689
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: small have been really special to me, like school drop

690
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: off and making lunches and taking Cami to gymnastics and

691
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: kind of all of those things, and then I'm looking

692
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: forward to, like somewhere along the line, like a little downtime,

693
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: a little big case, and just slowing down a bit.

694
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: I was thinking just now reflecting on how earlier you

695
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: were talking about being scared to speak up, and this

696
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: saying that I revisit time and time again on the

697
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: show about be careful that the sword that you used

698
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: to help others isn't the one that you fall on.

699
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure in the wake of your action, you started

700
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: to hear so many stories from so many women about

701
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 2: their experiences, and I'm curious if at any time, although

702
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: you were so content to be a voice for them

703
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: and so proud to stand in your truth, that it

704
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: got to feel like a lot.

705
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: It was definitely heavy, I'll say for sure. You know,

706
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: I think in just listening to the stories, listening to

707
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: the hards, I think I did have moments where I

708
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: felt like, can we do this? You know, like it

709
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: just seems so much at times, and it seems like

710
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: such an uphill fight.

711
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: That it is.

712
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: Sometimes it can feel disheartening, you know, I think even

713
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: just the whole situation that all of this occurred in

714
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. You know, that's hard, the whole the reproductive

715
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: rights you know that are happening now. You know, that's disheartening.

716
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: It just seems like sometimes you go through things and

717
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: you take these massive steps backwards.

718
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: And that's really hard.

719
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, that's just a part of life,

720
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: and that's a part of you know, any time I

721
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: think you're trying to push for things to be different,

722
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: you're going to have those moments. And I think it's

723
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: good to acknowledge them and like feel those feelings because

724
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: they're valid. But it is, it can be really heavy

725
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: at times.

726
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: I want to go back to the conversation that we

727
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: are having about being more involved with STAGE. I know

728
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 2: one of the things you're really passionate now with STAGE

729
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: is the new I.

730
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: Want to make sure I get this terminology right here.

731
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: We are the new maternity returns policy, which allows to

732
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 2: expectant mothers who have previously purchased a pair of Stage

733
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 2: ones a complimentary pair of fresh sneakers and a new size.

734
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 3: That's pretty innovative. I love that.

735
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's the you know, being able to

736
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: have a team, you know, we're making shoes for and

737
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: by women. So there are so many women who are

738
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: at the table, so many thoughtful women, you know, and

739
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: just wanting to do things differently. And I feel like

740
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: our maternity returns policy is something that we would love

741
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: to see the industry adopt, you know, and really push

742
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: for that because a lot of people aren't even aware that,

743
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, a woman's foot can change sizes during pregnancy,

744
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: and then that.

745
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: Change is like a permanent change.

746
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, just another way that we want to say,

747
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: like we are here to support women.

748
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: Not the only big thing though. Coming down the pipe

749
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: from Stage I mentioned to you this episode coming out

750
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: in late September, so I believe that you have some

751
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 2: news to share with us.

752
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're super excited to be offering Stage two. It

753
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: is a beautiful, sophisticated shoe, still a lifestyle shoe.

754
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 3: It's it's leather.

755
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: It has really feminine printed laces that I absolutely love.

756
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: I've been wearing them a lot with kind of you know,

757
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: elevated clothing and a little bit dressier, and so I'm

758
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: so excited for people to experience this shoe.

759
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: It really kind of comes.

760
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: About with just the evolution of myself and I've always

761
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: been the athlete that's a bit more quiet and you know, reserved,

762
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 1: and I've found my voice over you know, the last

763
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: couple of years, and so this shoe is more bold,

764
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, it really stands out there and it represents that.

765
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: And with so much going on in the world, you know,

766
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: regarding women, you know, our company exists to support and

767
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: to see women. And here's another way to say that,

768
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: we see you too.

769
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know that it's bigger than just the

770
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: products that you make. It's your mission to do just that,

771
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: to support women. What else can we look to Stage

772
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: four in the coming months, What else can we expect

773
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: from the brand as the year continues?

774
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

775
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean you're you're exactly right. You know, we

776
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: are so much more than We don't look at ourselves

777
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: as a shoe company. We look at ourselves as a

778
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: company that supports and stands with women. And so we

779
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: are excited to do more on our community front, offering

780
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: more for a collective. We also have performance, but we're

781
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: coming next year and so I'm really excited about that

782
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: and just continuing to grow and to be thoughtful in

783
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: the way that we're building for women.

784
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: Competition is something that you are not a stranger to.

785
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: And it's quite interesting that over the last three hundred

786
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: and sixty five days, many sneaker companies are now finally

787
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: following suit and creating sneakers on a woman's last How

788
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: does that make you feel?

789
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: It actually makes me feel really great.

790
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 3: I mean, that was really the purpose.

791
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: Of doing this, you know, and shining a light on,

792
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, the fact that shoes have not been made

793
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: for women, and a lot of companies aren't doing it.

794
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,479
Speaker 1: And so now to see you know, Lulu Liban launch

795
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: their you know, their shoes for women, it's incredible because

796
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: we've been saying that and we've been pushing for the

797
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: industry to focus on that, and so for me, it's

798
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: like we're moving in the right direction and we want,

799
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: you know, all the companies, all the big brands to

800
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: be doing this.

801
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

802
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we've dabbled with the word legacy a

803
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: little bit.

804
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: Here.

805
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: Does that feel like something that is fully within your

806
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: grasp at this moment, this idea that you are making

807
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: a lasting impact on so many both within your local

808
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: community but well beyond that, I mean.

809
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 3: I hope.

810
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: So I had this moment a couple of weeks ago,

811
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: I was flying and I got on the plane and

812
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: the first woman I saw, I looked down and she

813
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm always looking at what people will have on their feet,

814
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: and so I looked down and she had a pair

815
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: of safe sneakers on and it was like this moment

816
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: the first time that was like nobody, I don't know

817
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: this woman, no connection. You know, obviously, I've seen the

818
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: shoes on a lot of people, but I typically you know, know,

819
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: or they're a supporter, or you know, it's at a

820
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: track meet or something like that. But here it was

821
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: just you know, in the wild, and she had these

822
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: shoes on, and I was so excited, and so I

823
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: went to go talk to her and she had this

824
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: incredible story. And what touched me the most and made

825
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: me just more inspired than ever, was that, yes, she

826
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: loved the shoes and you know, it was amazing to

827
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: have a shoe for women, but she had a story

828
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: and she connected with you know, the purpose, and she

829
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: was standing with the mission, and to me, that's what

830
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: it's all about. And when I think about the future,

831
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: I hope that that continues to grow. You know, that story,

832
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: that connection, that symbol that you know you're standing for

833
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: equality that you're standing with women.

834
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: That's really what it's all about.

835
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: Do you see yourself doing or creating more companies in

836
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 2: the future.

837
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I absolutely am open to it, of course,

838
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, long term, but right now, you know, Seiche

839
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: has my complete focus and it's my big project.

840
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 2: When you say that, you know you have a heavy

841
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: hand and everything that's going on there right now. Can

842
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: you give us an example of like some of the

843
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: stuff that you may do over the course of a

844
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: regular week when it comes to your role over there.

845
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

846
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So I am leading up our partnerships and our

847
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: collective and so that looks like, you know, a lot

848
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: of meetings, a lot of meeting with our team. You know,

849
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm heavily involved in the product product development process, and

850
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: so meeting with the teams there, all the updates. It's

851
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: been fascinating learning this industry, like you know, with factory

852
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: meetings and you know, our samples and materials and you know,

853
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: I've just been geeking out on like all of that

854
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: stuff because I've I've loved shoes since I was little,

855
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: and so now the inner workings of all of it

856
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: have been fascinating. But then also just you know, overseeing

857
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: our team as a whole, you know, are all hands

858
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: meetings and just one on ones with our with our team,

859
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: and just because at the end of the day, you know,

860
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: we being a mission driven company is just making sure

861
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: that we're all aligned on that and it makes it

862
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: really special because everyone is and we have all these

863
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, really purposeful topics to talk about and hold

864
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: space for. And it's been fascinating now to work on

865
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: a team being that I've been you know, working by

866
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: myself for so long. It's just very refreshing and I'm

867
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: having so much fun.

868
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: What's what's the last thing that you did for yourself?

869
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 3: Ooh, the last thing that I did for myself. That's

870
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: a good question. It shouldn't be this.

871
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: Well, actually, tonight I'm getting a massage and so I'm

872
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: really excited about.

873
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: That that will be for me. It's so interesting.

874
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: Though, like we all know the things right earlier, you

875
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 2: said make sure that in my schedule I make time

876
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 2: for me, and it's like we know we have insight

877
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: into the recipe, but that doesn't make it easier to

878
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: always follow with implementing it.

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00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely. That's like the hardest part. It's like, Okay, I

880
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: know what to do. Now, let me actually go out

881
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: and do it. So I gotta be better.

882
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 3: We all got to be better.

883
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Speaker 2: You obviously have nothing going on, so it's totally fine.

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00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: Do you feel a little bit sense of like obligation

885
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: or excitement to be able to show up for your

886
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: community in a different way than you were capable of before.

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think that's one of the things that I've

889
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: been really excited about, you know, in being able to

890
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: step back. I feel like I've had to say no

891
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: so many times two different things, you know, different, you know,

892
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: whether that's showing up for friends, family, you know, I've

893
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: missed out on so many monumental things for so many

894
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: other people because competitions and Olympic Citical championships like it

895
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: always came first, and you always feel selfish, you know,

896
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: in doing that. But it's pretty much the only way

897
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: to be successful, you know, in that way. So I

898
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: am excited to be there, to be present, to be supportive,

899
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: and be return what so many people have been for

900
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: me for so many years.

901
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: Right now, my friend, you have an opportunity to offer

902
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: yourself a piece of advice at this very moment, at

903
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: this pinnacle changing point for you, and your career looking.

904
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Speaker 3: Toward what's next.

905
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: What advice do you give yourself go into this new chapter.

906
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: I think I tell myself cherish these moments. I think

907
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: so often I've just looked to the future so much,

908
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, I've looked at this moment. Then I can

909
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: take it in, then I can step back, I can

910
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: enjoy it. And I just even though you know I'm

911
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: going to be working hard and I have a lot

912
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: of things that I want to do, I want to

913
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I want to enjoy the process. I want

914
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Speaker 1: to enjoy my family. I don't want to look back

915
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: and feel like these moments escaped me.

916
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Speaker 3: So I would just say, slow down, take it in,

917
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: enjoy it.

918
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Speaker 2: Are you having a hard time with the shift of

919
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 2: letting go of doing everything that you used to do?

920
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 3: I think I will.

921
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Speaker 1: I think it's like, you know, it's very new at

922
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: this moment, and I've been kind of nervous about just

923
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: like what that will feel like. And I've talked to

924
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: a lot of different friends, and so I've tried to

925
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: just you know, prepare for it.

926
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Speaker 3: But I imagine that it'll be challenging.

927
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Speaker 1: You know, it's like you're losing something that you've loved

928
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: and done for the last twenty years, and I know

929
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: I'm going to miss it, and so I imagine that it's

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00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: going to be challenging over the next, you know, year,

931
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Speaker 1: as I kind of settle into a new phase of

932
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: life for me. But I have so much gratitude for

933
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: everything that it's been, and I think that if I

934
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: didn't feel some type of way, I think that's just

935
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: an expression of, you know, how much I loved it.

936
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Speaker 2: I know you're good friends with Candice Parker, and when

937
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 2: I was listening to the two of you talk on

938
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: your podcast, I was thinking about just that right now,

939
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: as a woman who loves celebrating other women, it does

940
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: feel as though like there is a graduating class of

941
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 2: just like elite stellar athletes that we have all had

942
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: the opportunity to follow and watch for so long. So

943
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure that although that transition will be challenging, that

944
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 2: you have some good company along.

945
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: The way, absolutely, and company that I can call on,

946
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: company where we can support each other, and company that

947
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: inspires me. I think what's really cool is everybody is

948
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: doing really neat things in a lot of different spaces,

949
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: and so we're not stopping anything we're just kind of

950
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: shifting into new roles.

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00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: Definitely.

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Speaker 2: Well, Alison, I'm so glad that we were able to

953
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: make this happen today.

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Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for your time.

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00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: I'm so excited for Sage two and I can't wait

956
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: to get my hands on a pair. How do the

957
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: hurdlers follow along with you? How do they keep up

958
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: with you going forward? And give us the details?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Well, you can definitely follow Sage dot com everything there,

961
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Speaker 1: and then me on social I'm just Alison Felix and

962
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: on social Sache is by Sache and Yeah, I'd love

963
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: to for you to keep up on the journey.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I'm over at Emilybody at Hurdle Podcast Another Hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.