1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: The following podcast contains explicit descriptions of violence, including sexual violence, 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: that some listeners may find upsetting. Continue at your own risk. 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: In the nineteen nineties, it seemed like serial killers were 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: really having a moment. For whatever reason, the public was 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: fascinated by them. We couldn't get enough think about it. 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: One of the most successful movies of nineteen ninety one 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: was Silence of the Lambs. It even went Best Picture 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: and pretty much everything else at the Oscars that year. 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: And then over the next few years we got inundated 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: with serial killer movies Jennifer Aids California and Natural Born Killers. 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Then in nineteen ninety five you had two big serial 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: killer movies in theaters at the same time, Copycat and Seven. 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Serial Killers were box office gold. The more sick and twisted, 14 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: the better. And then there was Real Life inteen ninety four. 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: The same year, the Milwaukee cannibal Jeffrey Dahmer was beaten 16 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: to death in prison by another inmate. The notorious killer 17 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: clown John Wayne Gacy was put to death by lethal injection. 18 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: And then you had your active serial killers of the nineties, 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: like the Green River Killer and the I ninety five Killer. 20 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: In addition to our own personal hometown horror, the Domino 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: Beach Killer living in a serial killer's hunting ground. At 22 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: the time of all this serial killer fever was a 23 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: bit surreal. 24 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: See. 25 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: It was also a time when the Internet was just 26 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: starting to catch on in a big way, and we 27 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: were all getting exposed to what goes on in the 28 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: darkest corners of the darkest minds of our fellow men 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: and women, well mostly men. The early adopters of the Internet, 30 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: the first people to figure out how to build and 31 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: publicize these new things called websites, seemed to love two 32 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: things above all else, celebrities and serial killers. By the 33 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: fall of nineteen ninety five, as I was learning to 34 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: navigate this new and incredible resource, my research led me 35 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: to theories about the Domino Beach Killer from all over 36 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: the country, all over the globe for that matter. 37 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: A lot of the. 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: People behind these theories wanted the killer to have some 39 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: kind of Hollywood gimmick, like the way Kevin Spacey was 40 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: using the Deadly Sins to make statements about his victims 41 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: in seven, or how the guy in Silence of the 42 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Lambs was trying to make himself a suit out of 43 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: human skin. The most common fantasy I found was that 44 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: the murders were part of some ritual intended to subvert 45 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: the apocalypse that was destined to befall our planet at 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: the dawn of the millennium. But that kind of thing 47 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: was everywhere you looked back in the nineties. It's true 48 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: the Domino Beach Killer had written about the imminent end 49 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: of the world in his second letter to me, but 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: I never got the feeling he was on some kind 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: of a holy mission or whatever. As far as I 52 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: could tell, he had no adgea and no greater calling. 53 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: It was just a monster, a monster that I had 54 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: become convinced was the rich, privileged son of the most 55 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: powerful man in town. I'm Courtney Barnes, and this is 56 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: the Murder Years, Episode six, Only Happy when it rains. 57 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: We the jury and the above and title action find 58 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: the defendant, Orenthal James Simpson not guilty of the crime 59 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: of murder. November nineteen ninety five, one month after O. J. 60 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: Simpson was found not guilty by a jury of his 61 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: peers for the murders of his ex wife Nicole Brown 62 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: and her friend Ron Goldman, was when the Domino Beach 63 00:03:54,280 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Killer struck one final time. The victim was Trudy Masterson, 64 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: the twenty eight year old singer, songwriter and rising star 65 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: in the music world who was doing a week's worth 66 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: of performances at Triple B's, the most popular bar and 67 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: music venue in town. November wasn't normally a time of 68 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: year that attracted notable performers to Domino Beach, but Trudy 69 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: was just on the cusp of breaking out in a 70 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: big way. She had recorded an album that was due 71 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: to come out in March of ninety six, and had 72 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: been invited to take part in a big New Year's 73 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: Eve show at the Wiltern in Los Angeles that featured 74 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of major nineties rock bands and folk singers. 75 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: She was amazingly talented. I saw her play myself three 76 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: nights before she died. But hold on, let's back up 77 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: a second last episode. I told you how I began 78 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: to suspect Connor Langford was the Domino Beach killer months earlier, 79 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: in late April nineteen ninety five. 80 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: To be honest with you, Connor Langford was one of 81 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: the first people I looked at way back in fall 82 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 4: of ninety two. 83 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: That's Damon Stokes, retired Sheriff of Delsall County. 84 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: Some things about his original story just seemed a little 85 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 4: too coincidental to me. First of all, I found it strange, 86 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 4: with his history with a victim, that he and his 87 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 4: friend were the first ones to find Virick Hendrick's body. 88 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 4: He claimed he saw what he thought was some trash 89 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 4: over by the rocks, and that's why he came over 90 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 4: to investigate. 91 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 5: But far as I could tell. 92 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 4: You couldn't see her body until you got right up 93 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 4: on the rocks. And he said he spotted her from, 94 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 4: you know, maybe two hundred yards away. Now, it's true 95 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 4: that the body had been knocked around by the waves 96 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 4: a little before I got there, so it's possible he 97 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: saw something I didn't. But then when he told me 98 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 4: I knew her, and later when I found out that 99 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 4: he'd had sexual relations. 100 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 5: With her, I mean, I don't know. It just didn't 101 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 5: sit right. 102 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 4: But he did seem genuinely saddened by her death, and 103 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: maybe that's how he was able to convince me of 104 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: his innocence. 105 00:05:58,960 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 6: I don't know. 106 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure you never had any reason to question him. 107 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: In the nineteen ninety three death of Billy Boy Reeves. 108 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: But what about the ASU students in ninety four? Was 109 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: he ever questioned? 110 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: Well, sure, he'd been seen at those girl's house that week. 111 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 4: He even admitted to being there the night that they 112 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 4: were murdered. But you know, about two or three other 113 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 4: dozen people were there, you know, And Connor answered all 114 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 4: my questions. 115 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 5: To my satisfactions. 116 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 4: I didn't suspect him of those murders any more than 117 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 4: I suspected Stan Majors, who ended up taking the charges 118 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: for them posthumously. 119 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: As you say, you know, and Angela Bowers. You may 120 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: remember Angela Bowers from episode four, the only person to 121 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 1: ever escape from the Domino Beach Killer with her life. 122 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 4: I brought in just about every white male between the 123 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: ages of twenty one and thirty five I could get 124 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 4: my hands on to put in a lineup who would 125 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 4: say the words. Angela remembered him saying. 126 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: Scream and you die right here, and now yeah. 127 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 5: Those other ones. 128 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, she was not the greatest witness in the world. 129 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: I mean, she identified eight people before she admitted, I say, 130 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: realized she just couldn't remember what the guy sounded like. 131 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: Was Connor Langford one of the men in those lineups? 132 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: No, I tried to bring him in, but his father 133 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 4: got him out of it. 134 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: In defense of the retired sheriff, Angela did tell me 135 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: when I was interviewing her the morning after her attack, 136 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: that she didn't think she'd be able to identify the 137 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: man who tried to abduct her. She never got a 138 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: good look at him, and all she could remember about 139 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: his voice was that he was disguising it. But what 140 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: if Connor Langford had been forced to go into the 141 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: sheriff station stand in a lineup with a bunch of 142 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: other guys his age, and read that line in a 143 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: gravelly voice like everyone else Sheriff's Stokes brought in. Would 144 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: that little light bulb have gone off for her? Would 145 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: Angela have been able to identify him? Would one Fsice 146 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: and Trudy Masterson still be alive? We'll never know. It's 147 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: easy to blame Sheriff Stokes for missing what he missed, 148 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: especially with the benefit of hindsight, But I'm equally to blame. 149 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: My own investigation into Connor Langford wasn't exactly turning up 150 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: any new evidence. In fact, all I had was my 151 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: gut telling me it was him, and after a few 152 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: months I was starting to doubt myself. I didn't dare 153 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: share my thoughts with anyone, not Sheriff Stokes and certainly 154 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: not my editor or anyone else at the Soochul Journal. 155 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: If it had gotten back to Counselman Langford that I 156 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: was investigating his son for multiple homicides, it would have 157 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: been very difficult for me to continue living and working 158 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: in Domino Beach. So much to my regret, I kept 159 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: my mouth shut, and my cowardice may have cost Trudy 160 00:08:53,600 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: masters in her life. 161 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 6: I saw her last show, you know. 162 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: Speak of the Devil. That's Connor Langford himself, the man who, 163 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: in November nineteen ninety five, at the time of Trudy 164 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: Masterson's death, I believe to be the Domino Beach killer. 165 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 6: I was working as. 166 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 7: A bar back in Triple B's, you know, washing glasses, 167 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 7: changing out the kegs. 168 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: Big change for you. Back in April of that year. 169 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 2: You were performing at Triple B's with your band. 170 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 6: That wasn't my band. My band died months before that. 171 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 7: Those guys just thought I'd help pull in some extra 172 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 7: bodies to hear them play. But I guess I turned 173 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 7: out to be more trouble than I was worth. They 174 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 7: kicked me out of the band in early July. Can 175 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 7: you believe that what a pain I must have been 176 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 7: if they were willing to lose their singer and guitarists 177 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 7: at the peak of the summer tourist season. 178 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: Although tourism was down that year, well, the. 179 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 7: Peak is still the peak, even if it's not as 180 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 7: high as it used to be. 181 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: What made you want to get a job as a 182 00:09:58,679 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: bar back? 183 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 6: I was fucking broke. 184 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 7: I was still crashing at my parents' poolhouse, but my 185 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 7: dad had frozen me out. I could get my mom 186 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 7: to slide me a little cash every now and then, 187 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 7: but that all went towards weed and. 188 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: H strange to witness. Honor Langford had been everyone's favorite 189 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: surfer dude in Domino Beach for years, but in late 190 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five he was already washed up, and he 191 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: wasn't even thirty years old. 192 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 7: I'd sold almost everything I owned for drug money by 193 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 7: that point, even my guitar. The only thing I held 194 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 7: on to was my surfboard, and I don't even know why. 195 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 7: I never surfed anymore. I never did anything. They gave 196 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 7: me that job at Triple Bee's out of pity, you know, 197 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 7: I had never had a job in my life before 198 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 7: that fucking pathetic man Christ would a goddamn mess I was, 199 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 7: I guess I don't blame you for believing I was 200 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 7: some piece of shit serial killer like Ted Bundy or whoever, 201 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 7: although those guys usually have a pretty serious sense of 202 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 7: self importance, right, and I think it should have been 203 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 7: obvious to anyone that I lacked any kind of ambition. 204 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: So can we get back to Trudy's final show? 205 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, sorry. 206 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 7: He was quiet that night, even quieter than usual. I mean, 207 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 7: the bar was practically empty. They didn't really need me there, 208 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 7: but then again, they never needed me. Trudy was up 209 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 7: on stage with her acoustic guitar. You know, she was 210 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 7: way better than I could have ever hoped to be. 211 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 7: She was a real musician. I was just playing at it. 212 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 6: She just had a. 213 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 7: Presence, you know, just her and her guitar, and somehow 214 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 7: it felt more full and complete than. 215 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 6: Like a five man band. She had a soulful voice, 216 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 6: kind of husky, full of emotion. 217 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: Sounds like you were jealous of her. 218 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 6: God damn right, I was jealous of her. 219 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 7: But I can't even imagine who would want to take 220 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 7: someone like her away from the world. She was gonna 221 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 7: be a star. So at the end of the night 222 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 7: she started playing a few popular songs, but not like 223 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 7: the ones I. 224 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 6: Played in that cover band I was in. 225 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 7: We were trying to sound just like whoever you know, 226 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 7: Nirvana up Pearl Jammed the Chili's. 227 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 6: We were trying to replicate their sound. Not Trudy. 228 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 7: She took a song and she made it her own 229 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 7: and it was usually better than the original. Fucking amazing 230 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 7: how she could do that. The final song she did 231 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 7: that night, well ever, I guess, was this slow down 232 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 7: acoustic version of Only Happy When It Rains by Garbage. 233 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 6: Remember that one? 234 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: I remember it? 235 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 7: Good song I'm too bad? You never heard it played 236 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 7: by Trudy Masterson. It was fucking haunting. 237 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: So here's what happened after Trudy wrapped up her final show. 238 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: According to Jeffrey Franklin, the owner of the Triple B's, 239 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: Prudy Masterson finished her set just after eleven pm on Thursday, 240 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 4: November sixteenth, nineteen ninety five. 241 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 6: Jeff tried hitting on her every night, even though she 242 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 6: made it crystal clear she was playing for a different team, you. 243 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: Know, So you're saying she was gay, How did you know? 244 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 6: It wasn't like it was a secret. 245 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 7: I mean, I talked to her a few times, and 246 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 7: it's not like she ever told me. But she could 247 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 7: have given a shit about me or any other guy 248 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 7: in the bar. But if there was a cute girl there, 249 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 7: Judy was eyeing her and smiling at her through her 250 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 7: whole set. But Jeff must have missed that, because whenever 251 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 7: she got to the bar, or right before she left, 252 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 7: he'd find some reason to go over and talk to 253 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 7: her and try to flirt. 254 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 6: You know. 255 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 7: That night he was asking her if she mightded playing 256 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 7: more covers, you know, because tomorrow's Friday and there'll be 257 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 7: more customers and people like music they already know. And 258 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 7: like I said, that garbage cover she did with some 259 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 7: fucking next level shit. So while I was cleaning up 260 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 7: behind the bar, I watched her and Jeff talk for 261 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 7: a while, and she's smiling and nod along, but it's 262 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 7: so obvious she just wants to get out of there 263 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 7: and go back to her motel. She couldn't pack her 264 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 7: guitar away fast enough. She was out the door by 265 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 7: eleven twenty eleven thirty latest. 266 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 4: Mister Franklin said that within minutes of Trudy masters and 267 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 4: leaving the bar, he told Connor Langford to clock out. 268 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd broken a couple of glasses and he got mad, 269 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 7: told me to go home and sleep it off. 270 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: You were high. 271 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 7: I don't even remember. I was always either high or 272 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 7: chones in back then. I just don't remember which I 273 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 7: was that night. 274 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: Franklin said he didn't think Connor was on anything that night. 275 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 4: He said he seemed Connor high many times, but that 276 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 4: night he was stone cold, sober. He left the bar 277 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: no more than fifteen minutes. 278 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: After Trudy, So maybe he broke the glasses on purpose, 279 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: like he was trying to get sent home. 280 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 5: Oh that's what I believe you. 281 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: It was four blocks to the motel where Trudy was staying, 282 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: and she walked to it every night after she played 283 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: at Triple B's, but she didn't make it there that night. 284 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 4: It was the same time of year as the attack 285 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 4: on Angela Bauers in nineteen ninety four, and I know 286 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 4: Miss Masterson had been told it wasn't the best idea 287 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: to walk along late at night. 288 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 5: But that was the thing about Domino Beach. 289 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: It was clean, the streets were well lit, you hear 290 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: the sound of the waves in the distance. 291 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 5: It felt perfectly safe. 292 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: Did anyone see Trudy after she left Triple Be's. 293 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 4: Nope, no one saw, you know, no, no one. I 294 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 4: talked too, Sar. We don't know if she tried to 295 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: go straight to the motel, or if she tried to 296 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 4: go for a walk on the beach or the boardwalk 297 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: or what. But we just don't know what time she 298 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: was abducted or from exactly where. 299 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: What we do know is when her body was found 300 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: at roughly three point thirty am on the morning of 301 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: November seventeenth. Trudy was found in a small park that 302 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: ran along the beach on the north end of the city. 303 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: It's really not much of a park. It's a strip 304 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: of grass, a few benches and palm trees, and it's 305 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: right next to the main road that separates the beach 306 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: from the downtown area a little further south. She had 307 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: been raped, beaten, and strangled to death, just like Vera 308 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: Kendrick in nineteen ninety two. Whether the killer intended to 309 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: spray paint some song lyrics near the body, like he 310 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: had done with Vera and Billy Boy Reeves, or whether 311 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: he wanted to leave some music playing, like he had 312 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: with Mary Crouch, Sandra Gerard, and Hally Blake. Will never 313 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: know because this murder had something none of the others had. 314 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: A witness. 315 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 4: Henrietta Jones had lived in Domino Beach for at least 316 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: ten years. She's always been homeless, at least as long 317 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 4: as I've known her, and she was in Domino Beach 318 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 4: before me. 319 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: Did you know Henrietta? 320 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, pretty well, God rest her soul. 321 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say we always got along, but you know 322 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: she never gave me any trouble either. 323 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 5: Did you know her? I mean, you know before this. 324 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: I know, not really. I kind of remember giving her 325 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: change a couple of times. 326 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 5: But you should have gotten to know her. 327 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 4: She might have been homeless, but she was sharp as 328 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: attack and she had eyes everywhere apparently, so you know 329 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 4: she might have been useful to you as a source. 330 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, this wasn't the first time she'd 331 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 5: been useful to me. 332 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: I was still really young back then. 333 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 1: I was probably scared of her, but you're right, as 334 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: a journalist I should have been more open minded about 335 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: the help she could offer. 336 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: Well, like you said, you were young, you know you 337 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 4: were trying to do it all yourself. 338 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 3: I'm not disagreeing with you anyway. 339 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, Well it got cool in November, so Henrietta 340 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: would set up a camp in the park, you know, 341 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 4: where the wind wasn't so bad. And Henriette was real 342 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 4: good at playing the game. She knew we'd have to 343 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 4: run her off if she was too visible, so she 344 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 4: always tucked herself away behind some bushes or trees or 345 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 4: whatever was around. And as long as she was making 346 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 4: an effort to stay out of sight, you know, out 347 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 4: of side of the tourists, we mostly let her be. 348 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: Somewhat ironically, Henry Edta Jones had been something of a 349 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: mother figure to the Killer's first victim, Vera Hendrick. 350 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: She had given Vera the lay of the. 351 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: Land, todd her where the best panhandling spots were and 352 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: the best times to be there, you know that sort 353 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: of thing. She was a friend to the Killer's first victim, 354 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: and she would help make sure Trudy Masterson was the last. 355 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 4: According to Henrietta's statement, she heard a car pull up 356 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 4: and stop at the curb right by the park, and 357 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 4: someone in her situation knows that when you hear something 358 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 4: that late at night, it's best to check and make 359 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 4: sure that it's not a threat. 360 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 5: So that's what she did. 361 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 4: And she had set herself up near a little island 362 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 4: of palm trees and would have been hard to see 363 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 4: from the road, you know. So she looks out with 364 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 4: this little makeshift tent and she sees a light colored 365 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 4: band sitting on the curb by the park. She sees 366 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 4: a man, although she says she can't identify her. He's 367 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 4: wearing a hoodie something like that. But she sees him 368 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 4: open up the back doors of the van and pull 369 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 4: out a naked body, a naked body of Trudy Masterson. 370 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: She knew it was a body right away, Oh, she 371 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: said she did. 372 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 4: I mean, she didn't know the woman's name, but she 373 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 4: said she knew it was a dead person. He got 374 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 4: Trudy out of the van, grabbed her ankles, and dragged 375 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 4: her into the grass. Well, I guess it got a 376 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 4: little too close to Henrietta for comfort, because that's when 377 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 4: she hit. 378 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 5: Her air horn. 379 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 3: Her air horn or air horn. 380 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 381 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, she'd been homeless for a 382 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 4: while and she knew how to take care of herself. 383 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 4: She had this nasty, rusty old knife of worse came 384 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 4: to worse, but I never knew where to use it. 385 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 5: That airhorn, though I'd heard. 386 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 4: It myself multiple times if someone tried to rob her, 387 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: or she saw someone she didn't like, that thing was 388 00:19:55,359 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 4: so loud it would split the night wide open. And 389 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 4: that's what happened. 390 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: What did the killer do? 391 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 4: She said, He froze, you know, for about a second, 392 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: looked back, saw her, and did she see him his face, No, 393 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 4: But she did hit the airhorn again, and he ran 394 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 4: for his van and peeled off without even bothering to 395 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 4: close the back doors. When she was sure he was gone, 396 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 4: Henrietta went to Trudy's body, confirmed or dead, and then 397 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: went to the nearest payphone called nine one one. 398 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: Henrietta Jones may not have gotten a good look at 399 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: the killer, but at this point she was only the 400 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: second person to lay eyes on him at all and 401 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: lived to tell the tale, the first being Angela Bowers 402 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: almost exactly one year earlier. When Angela was attacked, she 403 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: was forced into the back seat of her own car, 404 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: but Henrietta saw the killer driving his own vehicle. A 405 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: light colored van could be white, could be pale blue, 406 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: or yellow, even beige she wasn't sure, but it was 407 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: the best clue police had gotten yet. 408 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: Prudy Masterson's offtopsy showed traces. 409 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 3: Of rohypnal, the date rate drug Rufie's exactly. 410 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 6: You know. 411 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: It had been gaining popularity in the US since the 412 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 4: early nineties, but most people weren't too aware of it, 413 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: I mean, not aware to be on the lookout. Anyway, 414 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 4: we suspect someone approached her while she was walking back 415 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 4: to the motel, since all the bars were closed at 416 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 4: eleven during the off season. Maybe this person convinced her 417 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 4: to go have a drink on the beach, watch. 418 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 5: The waves, you know. 419 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: So it might have been someone she knew. 420 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 4: Might have been, but remember she was a musician and 421 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 4: she didn't exactly live a risk free lifestyle. Could have 422 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 4: been that whoever approached or just charmed her. 423 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 3: However it happened. He somehow slipped her a roofie. 424 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 4: Right, and it doesn't take long to start feeling the effects. 425 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: And she was raped, yeah, and strangled, and she was 426 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 4: too out of it to fight back. So again, no 427 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 4: defense wounds, no skin, hair or blood under the fingernails, 428 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: nothing like that. And when he was done, tried to 429 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: get rid of the body. We were working off the 430 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: theory that the rape and murder occurred inside the van. 431 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 5: Henrietta saw Pirah. 432 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 4: Kendrick, Juan Costas, and the other three ASU students were 433 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 4: all found where they were killed. Only the bodies of 434 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 4: Billy Boy Reeves and now Trudy Masterson were transported and 435 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 4: disposed of somewhere else. 436 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: So you really wanted to find that van. 437 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 5: We wanted to, and we did. 438 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: The van was found the next day, roughly eighty miles 439 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: north of Los Angeles on the Pacific Coast Highway. It 440 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: had been driven off the road into a deep ditch, 441 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: only partially hidden by branches and leaves. Some of Trudy 442 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: Masterson's hair and blood was found in the back. 443 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 4: That was the day that changed everything, November eighteenth, nineteen 444 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 4: ninety five. 445 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: Why did everything change that day. 446 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 4: Because the day we got our first real suspect in 447 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 4: the case. The van we found was registered to Connor Langford. 448 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: It had finally happened. I started suspecting Connor Langford five 449 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: months earlier. I never voiced my suspicions to anyone. I 450 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: know what you're thinking. It's really easy for me to 451 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: say I knew it was Connor all Along now thirty 452 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: years later, But you're wrong. 453 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: It's not easy. I didn't want to. 454 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: Risk my job by voicing my suspicions about Connor and 455 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: then having his father the counselmansue me and the paper 456 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: into oblivion. And sure that might have happened if I'd 457 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: have been vocal. You know what else might have happened. 458 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: Trudy Masterson might still be alive. Yeah, I understand how 459 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: it looked again, Connor Langford. 460 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 7: I know why everyone believes I'm guilty. I know why 461 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 7: almost everyone I cared about turn their backs on me. 462 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 6: And I'm not saying. 463 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 7: I didn't deserve the universe to throw some shit in 464 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 7: my way. I was a fuck up, sure, but I'm 465 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 7: no killer. I'm saying it now and I said it 466 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 7: back then. I'm an innocent man. 467 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: The Murder Years is a production of AYR Media and 468 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: iHeartMedia Executive producer Elisa Rosen for AYR Media. Written by 469 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: Tim Huddleston, directed by Elisa Rosen, Editing and sound designed 470 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: by Tristan Bankston, Consulting producer Jean Chandil, coordinator Olive Goldberg. 471 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: Audio engineering and mastering by Justin longerbein studio engineer Josh Hook. 472 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: Original music by Nathan Bankston. Original concept developed in partnership 473 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: with Anne, Margaret Johns, and Greg Spring. Executive producer for iHeartMedia, 474 00:24:54,080 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: Maya Howard. Performances for this episode by Erica Leniac as 475 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: Courtney Barnes, Tom Virtue as Sheriff Damon Stokes, Alex Salem 476 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: as Connor Langford