WEBVTT - How to Join the X-Men 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:07.160 Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:14.520 forward Thinking patent everyone, and welcome to Forrard Thinking about 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:16.520 podcast that it looks at the future and says, so 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.560 we went out, Magneto and Titanium Man and the Crimson 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.919 Dynamo came along for the ride. I'm Jonathan Strickland and 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:27.040 I'm Joe McCormick. And today we are going to be 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.440 doing an episode based on a listener request. Yeah, this 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:32.960 is one that came in from faceback right. Derek Barrows 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:36.479 asked if we might explore a certain topic that was 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:42.480 of interest to him, right right, a certain super heroic 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:48.120 topic sort of somewhat yea, Yeah. He wanted to know if, um, 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:51.560 we can talk about the science behind X Men, which 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:56.320 is a tall order. Well, it's especially tall because the 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.720 X Men is fantasy. Yeah, I mean, there is no 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.280 neetic modification that will allow you to turn your body 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:08.000 into fire or or adamantium like steel or something. It's 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.000 pretty unlikely at any rate. Yeah, it's it's way more 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.600 fantasy than science fiction. But we could look at it 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:19.360 from a sort of almost their perspective, where we say, okay, 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:24.760 for each individual X Man, X X person, member of 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.319 the member of the X correction of X X man 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:31.760 is totally X. Yeah. Each individual member of Professor X 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:35.800 is elite. Uh force of school and women School School 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.679 for Mutants. Yeah, I mean there are away person. Sounds 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:43.480 like you have passed on. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm still 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.160 for each individual X man. Is there a way that 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:51.080 we could use science and technology to somewhat mimic this 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:55.600 person's supermutant powers in the real world? So, so, is 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.040 there a way that such a power could be achievable 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:02.360 either through some sort of alteration of a person, right, so, 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:07.000 like cybernetics or genetic modification, right, or just simply using 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.240 technology to mimic that power. So maybe a suit of 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.240 some sort that can mimic one of the X Men's powers. 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.240 And as it turns out, another big challenge here that 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.640 Derek has given us is the fact that the X 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.840 Men happens to be a group that has had a 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.160 lot of different characters in it. Ah. Yeah, there's a 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.440 few characters in the Marvel universe. I don't know if 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.200 you guys know this. Um Yeah, yeah, like a few, 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.160 as in like a few thousand and and a good 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.200 percentage of them. I've been in the X Men at 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.960 some point or another. Yeah, And for that reason, we're 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.959 going to need to split this into a couple of podcasts. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.320 So today we are just focusing on the characters that 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:50.600 I just recently found out where the quote original team, yeah, 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.200 way back when the comic book started, right, I'm going 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.640 to have to make a confession right here to the fans. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.880 Please don't hate me for this, but I'm sort of 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.960 a casual X Men. Oh that's that's okay, Joe. I'm 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.120 not going to call you a fake geek girl. It's 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.200 all right. I am a fake geek girl. So but 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.120 but in other words, like if you only knew the 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.280 X Men from say the film versions, then you have 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.840 some of the cartoons right right, But you you I'm 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.600 just giving an example, Joe, not saying you specifically, but 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.840 if you out there in the listener land are only 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.120 familiar with X Men through those methods, are those those 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.560 forms of media? Then you know you might think, oh, Wolverine, 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.080 Wolverine was always part of the X Men, of course, No, 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.839 not not part of the original X Men. So you're 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.920 breaking my heart. But we will get to Wolverine in 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:40.680 the next podcast. Along with some of our other sorted, sorted, 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:45.120 assorted and sundry favorites. Yeah, some of them are sorted, 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.080 I guess, like like Nightcrawler, one of my favorites not 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.560 not in the original X Men. Will we will be 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:54.800 covering Nightcrawler in the second episode. So who will we 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.440 be covering today? It's got to be Cyclops, right, absolutely, 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.360 Scott Summers has been there since the beginning. Okay, I 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.840 gotta raise my hand and have a question here. Maybe 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.800 it's because I'm a casual fan that I don't understand this, 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.240 but I've always had a question about how Cyclops works. 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.080 When he does his little I beam thing. Yeah, it's 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.240 kind of a big I beam thing. Really, it's not 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.760 not that okay, So sure he presses a little button 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.360 on his head and a huge, gigantic beam comes out 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:28.000 of his face. Hit somebody knocks him back twenty ft 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:32.640 across the room. I'm confused about what that beam is 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.280 because it looks, on one hand like it should be 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.760 a sort of a laser or some kind of energy weapon, 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.279 which would seem to have a kind of burning or 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.840 irradiating effect. But instead, if you judge just by what 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.360 it does to the enemy, it seems to be more concussive, 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.840 like it's a it's a force knocking them back. Yeah, Joe, 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.480 it sounds to me like you're not familiar with concussive 0:04:55.480 --> 0:05:00.680 force beams. Nope, probably because they only exist in the 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.400 comic books. Yeah. No, it's it's a form of energy. 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.159 Many of the types of energy that are found in comics, 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.000 and many of the materials that are found in comics 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:15.479 are completely made up. They're made up in order to 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:20.320 make the comic exciting, and you know, they they kind 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.880 of makes sense. They're if they're logically consistent within the 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:25.919 context of the comic book, but once you take it 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.040 out of that, you think, how is that going to 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.000 be possible? I have my own theory about this. Also, 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.040 it seemed that in in comic books, especially in comic 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.679 books and cartoons that are more aimed at a younger audience, 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.320 it might be kind of weird if one of your 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:43.960 main heroes is constantly burning people alive. Gross, It's much 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.520 nicer to just kind of push them. It's like you 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.479 might as well have just kicked them really hard. It 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.680 kind of kind of falls into the same category of 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.240 watching the old g I. Joe cartoons and everyone's just 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.960 shooting blue and red light at each other. That doesn't 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.279 seem actually cause damage to anything other than vehicles, and 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.159 it doesn't matter be as as soon as the vehicles damage. 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.719 You see a little parachute um. But okay, this concussive force, 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.800 I'm sorry to get back to it. Right, And it 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.680 looks like a laser, because that looks cool, right, right? 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.400 I mean, how are you going to depict it? Right? 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.680 I mean you clearly you wouldn't want it to be invisible, 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.080 because then it would just be some guys staring really 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.200 hard at someone else and they suddenly fly backward and 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:22.160 you think, what's happening is that telekinesis or so obviously 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.480 it needs to be exciting to the to the reader. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.359 It has to be something that is going to really 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:33.360 grab the imagination. If we're talking about real world correlatives, 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:38.200 it's most going to resemble probably either shock waves or lasers. Right, 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.240 That's that's the closest we can say, one based upon 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:46.120 the result that we see when Scott Summers blast somebody, 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.560 and one that's based more on the appearance of it 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.440 as it's depicted in the comic Boos, right, and shock waves, 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.680 like like sound waves could hypothetically be used in a 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.400 in a weaponized way, like sure, yeah, I mean sound 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.440 is a physical force, right, This is a physical type 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:07.039 of of phenomenon. So it's that movement of particles really yeah. Yeah, 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.600 And it doesn't necessarily have to just be through air. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.960 It can be through any medium, right, So sound travels 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:17.320 physically through a medium. Um, right, well, yeah, you have 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.280 to have you have to have something there. I mean, 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.560 I think about me. I think of a vacuum is 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.360 an absence of a medium. But but that's fair. Um, 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.880 I'm thinking physical medium. So if you have a physical 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.720 medium of some sort, whether it's gas, liquid, solid, sound 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.960 can move through it. It moves through at different speeds 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.800 depending upon the density and the nature of that material. Uh. 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.760 And it can have enough of a force to to 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.480 knock you over. I mean, say, the sort of thing 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.320 is just the expansion of air as well, if you 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.239 are causing air to expand very quickly. But for example, 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.840 with a supersonic jet, you guys may have heard a 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.400 sonic boom if a supersonic jet passes overhead. The really 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.800 cool thing is that as long as that jet is 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.920 traveling at a supersonic speed. It is generating a sonic boom. 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.200 It's called a boom blanket, right, right, It's not just 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.400 the single moment the thing that you hear isn't the 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.680 single moment of the of the plane crossing the sound barrier. 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.680 It's it's a continual thing that that everyone along the 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.640 plane's path is going to hear. Yeah, if you could 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.600 travel on the ground at the same rate as the 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.360 plane flying overhead, you would constantly hear it, plus you'd 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:23.000 be generating your own um. But at any rate, Uh, 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:24.720 it's it's really you know, the kind of thing that 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.600 if you are close enough to it, you could get 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:31.320 feel an impact from that shock wave. However, directing it 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.520 at a specific location is a little more tricky. You 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.440 can use acoustic waves and in interesting ways. There's some 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.160 acoustic levitation that's really awesome. There are a lot of 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.400 really cool examples of this, but we don't necessarily have 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.360 a truly weaponized form of it where you could direct 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.720 it at a person to knock them off their feet. Um. Now, 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.480 I'm sure people have been at things like concerts or 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:56.280 whatever where they can feel that that percussive force whenever 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.840 the era is moving through due to a really low base. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.680 It it's a little different, Okay, But I have another 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.920 question I want to introduce here, which is that it's 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:11.880 not a machine on cyclops head that is producing this effect. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.800 It seems to be that his eyes are naturally producing 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:17.880 the effect. His eyes are doing it all the time, 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.160 and the only thing that keeps him from just shooting 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.720 these concussive beams at everyone constantly is that little ruby 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.120 visor that he's wearing. So when he pushes the button, 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.160 he's essentially removing a filter right right, or opening an 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.559 aperture or something like a shutter, which would be really 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:36.000 tricky if it were real. Because I mean, so so 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.959 this this follows his gaze, right, it's coming out wherever 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:44.200 he's looking with his eyeballs. Yeah, so if he guess, 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.800 I mean, technically just seems to come straight out of 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.680 his eyes. So I don't know if it necessarily needs 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.240 to be where his uh, where where he's looking, as 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.800 opposed to where his face is facing pointing. Yeah. Well, 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.440 although if you wanted to base it on on eye movement, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.480 like a web and like that, you could certainly track 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:06.319 um uh, the the user's eye movement using a pretty 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.439 simple app. Actually, eye tracking hardware exists today. I mean, 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.439 we can already do this. And so if you did 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.120 want to create a machine that would maybe shoot a 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.079 laser wherever you're looking, I think that's totally doable. You 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.439 can get a pair of glasses that track your pupils 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.960 and then see, Okay, I just glanced at Jonathan's shoulder, 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.160 and now burn that. Now I just glanced at his 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.440 top of his head? Do that? Now you're a mean man, 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.520 first of all, First of all your mean Second of all, um, 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.520 will you would be able to remove any kind of 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.720 aiming issue you might have between what you are seeing 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.800 and how you are able to, like your your hand 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.080 eye coordination, that part is no longer now it's just 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.839 eye coordination. Right. There is a downside, not coordination. Yea, 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.640 there's a downside exactly. There's no coordination because it's only 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.439 one thing. The downside. The biggest downside would be any 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.160 laser that's going to be sufficiently powerful enough to cause 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.439 that kind of damage is also going to be bright 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:04.240 as to cause permanent eye damage for you, the user. Um, 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.800 if you've ever looked into any of the consumer lasers 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.560 that are powerful enough to set fire to something simple 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:15.160 like a piece of paper that's got dark color on it, 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:21.160 which is slightly easier to ignite than say white paper. Ah, 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:24.400 any laser that's in the visible spectrum is going to 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:29.280 be so bright at that power that it could cause 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:34.040 permanent damage at least temporary damage. So and a head 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:38.680 mounted laser weapon that is completely commanded by your eyes 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:43.560 may not be the best choice. Okay, Yeah, that's convinced me. Essentially. 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.560 I think any weapon where it's shooting from your face 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.120 is probably not the best way to go. Yeah, I 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.360 wouldn't really face mount many weapons. I mean, I mean 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.320 if it's even if it's just a concussive beam and 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.719 not a bright laser, you're you're going to have I'm 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.000 sure some kind of kick back from it. And that's 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.480 a very good point. You just have black eyes all 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.280 the time, it would be really bad. You guys, I've 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:07.040 been told that my face is already weaponized. So the 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.199 kick back point is a good point because it also 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:13.760 introduces the energy concern. Yes, I mean imagining that you 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.480 are you have something coming out of your eyes. Like 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.920 even if we go to just the pure fantasy realm 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.600 and say somehow you've got something coming out of your eyes. 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:25.360 It's a directed energy weapon. Where's that energy coming from? 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.440 I mean, you can't just create energy. You would have 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.120 to somehow, I don't know. You'd have to have a 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:34.679 battery powering it very power. And if we're if we're 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.880 going through the biological side, let's say that just taking 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:39.880 the comic book and that somehow we were able to 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:44.760 make Scott Summers appear here in wedding cakes in order 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:48.520 to black Like, how how would you actually generate the 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.120 energy necessary to I mean, I don't understand that at all. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.600 In the mutant universe, all the mutants. This doesn't just 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.840 apply to two cyclops, but all the mutants who have 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.439 any sort of energy based power, The energy has to 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.360 come from them right off off panel. They never stop eating. 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:07.080 I guess so I likeel there's just a million twinkies, 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.480 would be fantastic if you just saw like little food 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.440 crumbs coming off the edge of the panels whenever, Like 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.960 that's just when they're shoving food into their faces so 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:16.920 that their metabolism can keep up and they can get 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:21.280 the energy necessary. Yeah, that's a that's a legitimate point, 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.360 and it's gonna be it's gonna be a legitimate point 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.480 for just about everyone we talk about. Okay, but let's 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.640 just put all that aside and play fantasy here for 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.839 a second. Let's just say you could have some kind 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.880 of unlimited energy reserve in your body. Is there a 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:36.400 way you actually could, you know, use your eyes to 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.800 direct an energy beam because the eyes are sort of 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:44.920 their input devices, not output devices, well most of the time. Um, Okay, 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.880 I suppose that we might be able to devise some 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:51.080 kind of genetic upgrade. And and I'm real dubious about 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:54.560 whether it's being an upgrade or not to to creator 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.400 or install a kind of like tap at them lucidum 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:03.760 in the human eye. Harry Potter spell, yes, no, um No, 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.920 it's the it's the organ in many animals that creates 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:08.839 like eye glow in low lights. So if you've ever 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.120 been in a dark room with your cat and an 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.280 alligator or an alligator, been in a dark room in 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.400 an alligator a couple of times, okay, and their eyes 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.320 have been glow and all creepy at you. Yeah, or 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.120 like raccoons, Lots of lots of animals have this thing, 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.160 but humans do not. Um. It's a reflective layer that 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:28.120 gives the eyeballs, um, rods and cones a second chance 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.800 at at collecting light, so it helps the animals see 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.920 better in the dark. So great for nocturnal animals. Super 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.640 rad yes, um, and and humans do not in fact 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:38.880 have it. If if you're thinking, but I've seen red 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.800 eye in photos in lots of people, that is not 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.640 because of a tapitum lucidum. That is because of light 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.240 reflecting off of the blood vessels in the back of 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:51.880 our eyes. UM. So I guess you could say that 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:55.120 what Scott has is like the most intense version of 0:14:55.200 --> 0:15:00.960 red eye imaginable, so intense that it's been magnified and 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:05.160 focused to phenomenal degree. Yeah, So so you know, maybe 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.040 maybe that if you know, if if we put in 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:10.200 some kind of tappa and lucidum um, and then combined 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.280 that with some sort of really advanced micro lensing technology 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.760 like contacts or nanobots or whatever, um, then then you 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:20.440 could you could join forces with these things to to 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:25.920 create something not entirely quite like eye lasers um, although 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.160 the problem of getting them to shoot out of your 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:31.000 eyes without also just burning your eyeballs from the inside 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:32.840 out would be a pretty major one. Not to mention 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.440 it would be reliant upon light coming in as opposed 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:40.040 to light emanating from you. This is reflecting. Maybe maybe 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.520 there's some meadow materials that reflect more light than they 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:48.200 take in. Okay, Okay, that's a that's a long stretch 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.960 for that one is a very a very wonderful laur Lauren. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.960 But I'm going to say, for my money, I think 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.920 the closest thing we could possibly get that we've talked 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.560 about is just some kind of head mount a laser 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:04.160 that was guided by eye tracking software. Yeah. I think 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.960 it's much safer as an external system. Yeah. And even then, 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.960 you're not talking about like a wide beam as we 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.040 see in the comic books. It would be a pinpoint, 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.840 right unless you had some sort of splitter or whatever, 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.800 in which case it's not going to have the punch 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:21.080 that that a focused laser would. Okay, let's go on 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.160 to one that I'm sure he's going to be much 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:28.280 more plausible. Ice Man. Yeah. Yeah, So ice Man is 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.560 one of the original members. Um. He has powers include 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.440 the ability to turn his body into ice, and yet 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.080 he could still move around and function. He could also, 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.280 depending upon the version you're reading, he could either generate ice, 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.520 you know, as much as possible, or he could convert 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:50.400 any sort of humidity or water in the area into ice. 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.640 He could lower the temperature and use it to make ice. Now, wait, 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:57.240 can he sort of like blast beams of cold he 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.640 sort of blast beams of ice or or just projections 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.880 of ice. Yeah. Yeah, it's not so much it's not 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.040 so much a cold beam as when he puts his 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.840 hands out, then you see ice emanating from his hands, 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:14.560 and exactly he can do. He can do crushed or cube. 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.080 He's very popular at all the parties that the X 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.280 Man that glacier ice stuff. Though he does. What he 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:23.960 does is he does the thing where he makes a 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.360 platform out of ice and then he essentially magically skates 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.280 across it while generating it directly in front of himself. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.800 And that's frozen. And I would say is very largely 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.719 based on Ice Man, but better attitude. It's not magic. 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:41.840 He's just a really good surfer. Yeah, NASA's silver surfer, 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:43.359 by the way. But he's not mutant, so we're not 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.840 going to talk about him. Okay, Well, at first glance, 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.680 you might think, okay, maybe maybe something like this is 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:55.200 possible because we have refrigeration technology and really good refrigeration technology. 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:59.000 We can we can create via technology extremely cold environments, 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:02.399 like the environment meants that they have to uh that 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:06.320 they have to use to test space telescope mirrors. Sure 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.360 they send them into space, or these super super cooled 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.199 environments that are getting close down to absolute zero, or 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.040 the super cold environment that's necessary in order for something 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:19.199 like large hadron collider to work. Yeah, we're super cooling uh, 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:24.440 semiconductors and superconductors. Okay, But the thing is about all 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.600 of those is that humans aren't really supposed to hang 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:30.919 out in those temperatures. Yeah, that's one. Don't do well 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:32.880 in our body, you know. We we talked in our 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:36.560 our episode about reanimating the dead about the problems with crayonics, 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:38.879 and one of the big ones being the challenge of 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:43.399 slowly uh lowering a person's body temperature in a in 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:46.520 a series of efforts in order to get them to 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:48.280 the right temperature. And we still don't know that we 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.640 could ever bring them back from that because our bodies 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.240 aren't designed for that. We don't we don't do well. 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:56.600 And our body temperature, once it goes down below a 0:18:56.600 --> 0:19:01.000 certain level, we're not so active anymore, right, Well, we're 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.280 not just creatures that you can just freeze and thaw out. 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.920 We we suffer cellular damage, right right. We we contain 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.600 a whole lot of water. Water expands when it freezes, 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:14.639 which is terrific for for many physical properties of the 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:18.119 planet Earth, but is really terrible for you. Yeah, so 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:23.080 your parts of your body freeze. It's not just like 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.360 you know, the meat that frozen your freezer and then 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.680 you thaw it out and then basically it's still pretty 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.280 much like meat. Live tissue doesn't work that way. It 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.760 gets damaged and stuff happens to it that makes it 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:37.919 not work. It's bad times. Now. Not all animals on 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:42.359 Earth are necessarily like that. For example, there are some fish, 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:46.400 some water dwelling creatures that have genes that make their 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.919 body tissues frost resistant in a way that ours aren't. 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.880 And it's possible. I mean, you could say, well, we 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:59.080 could create a transgenic human maybe maybe, yeah, possibly, because 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.320 we we do that with toy dose. Right, There's there's 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.159 some tomatoes that are frost resistant because they have this 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.240 fish gene. I don't know if those actually worked, but 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.679 they tried to make ka I think in the I 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.760 think in the nineties there was a company that tried 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.520 to use uh these frost resistant fish genes to make 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:18.800 tomatoes frost resistant, when, of course people freaked out because 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.080 they were like, oh, no, fish tomatoes, it's Franken style, 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.679 or it's going to be fish flavored tomatoes, which just 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:27.320 shows a distinct misunderstanding of how genes work. Right. But 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:32.720 so if if Bobby Drake got this fish transplant, he 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:37.159 might taste fishy. This is already already the best issue 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.240 of X men I've ever heard of. Please continue. He 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.800 was a transgenic human that was, you know, as an embryo, 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:47.040 given a splice in from a fish gene that would 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.560 allow parts of his body to freeze and then thaw 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.000 out without the kind of tissue damage that a human 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:57.040 would normally uh sustain. I don't know if that's really possible, 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:00.760 but there's sort of one very far off maybe. Okay, 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.800 but but that's just preventing our dear friend Bobby from 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:10.320 dying immediately upon activating his mutant powers. He doesn't get cold. 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:14.480 He's the one guy in the movie Theaters. I don't 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.840 know what you're complaining about. Okay, yeah, but the next 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:21.800 problem here is that we don't have someone emanating cold 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:25.280 yet um, and this this is really tricky, okay, because 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:29.840 most of our bodily functions create heat as byproducts of 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:35.679 their electrochemical and physical reactions, right right, it's a waste product, 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:39.359 and so creating a mechanism by which a living body 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:43.040 would give off cold instead of heat. I mean, even 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.719 considering that the cold and heat are technically relative. Um, 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.879 something is colder or hotter than something else. But you 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:53.360 don't have an absolute cold or hot right. Um, it's 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:56.320 really biologically unlikely because it's just not the way that 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:59.760 metabolism works. You doesn't have some sort of organic heat 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:02.919 ex change system that worked at an incredible level of 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:07.359 efficiency and speed, and that doesn't really there's not an 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:09.480