1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. Are there visitors from another galaxy who 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: have come to our world? I? I I'm not. It's 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: not that kind of show. I mean there are shows 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: that get into that. But today on Capitol Hill, I 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: mean we talk politics here, right. That is our that 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: is our bread and butter, that is our foundation. And 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill, Clay, right now, they're having hearings where 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: there are they're they're supposed to hear from a whistleblower 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: and this is for the Committee on Oversight and Accountability, 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: a whistleblower featuring David Grush, who has accused the government 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: of withholding information that has to do with I agree 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: with you, Clay. I don't like this UAP thing Unidentified 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: anomalist phenomena like that makes you sound even nerdier. UFO 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: is a good like. We all know what a UFO is, 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: and I think we stick with it. But they the 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: cool kids now in this community say UAP. But I'm 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: still going with UFO. So here we are, you know, 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: waiting to see more of what comes out of this. 20 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: We have some audio of this guy, right, do we have? Yeah, 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: let's let's play part of what the uh the testimony 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: is likely to center around here? 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: Play it if you believe we have crashed craft stated earlier, 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: this craft? 26 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 3: As I've stated publicly already in my news station interview, 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 3: biologics came with some of these recoveries. 28 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, were they I guess human or non human? 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 4: Biologics? 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Non human? 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: And that was the assessment of people which recknowledge on 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: the program I talk to that are currently still on 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,639 Speaker 3: the program. 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So he's straight up saying that we've pulled aliens 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: down of space with the under Oath, Right, that's what 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: he's saying. I'm not I'm not missing this. That's what 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: he did say this morning. It started at ten am Eastern. 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: So what's going on here, Clay? 39 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, can I just say the 40 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 5: fact that they scheduled the Hunter Biden the Plea Agreement 41 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 5: for the exact time that some guy was gonna sit 42 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 5: down under Oath and say we've taken non human biologic 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 5: life forms, basically aliens out of alien spacecraft. I mean, 44 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 5: this is crazy, right, I mean, this is next level 45 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 5: under Oath testimony. So this guy is willing to potentially 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 5: be put in prison as a perjurer in order to 47 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 5: either makeup that we have uncovered alien life inside of 48 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 5: crash alien planes, or or he is so crazy that 49 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 5: he believes his untruth, which would make it harder to 50 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 5: charge him with perjury because he may truly believe a lie. 51 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 5: But I mean, this is this is blockbuster stuff and 52 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 5: for it to be occurring again under oath in Congress. 53 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: This is not you and me buck driving along. 54 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 5: Uh you know we take a call from some guy 55 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 5: and he calls in and says, hey, you know, I'm 56 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 5: out in location here. I mean, this is under oath 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 5: in Congress testimony today that there have been alien spacecraft 58 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 5: that have crashed in Earth, and that we have removed 59 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 5: dead aliens from those spacecraft. Now here are my thoughts. 60 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 5: And I guarantee you eight hundred and two eight two 61 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 5: two eight eight two we are going to be deluged 62 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 5: in calls over. 63 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: We got some some colorful phone calls yesterday from well, 64 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: I don't doubt that at all. 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 5: If this has happened, so my anytime there is a 66 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 5: story like this that occurs, how many people would know 67 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 5: this Okay is my first thought, because to you or me, Buck, 68 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 5: if let's say that there are twenty five people that 69 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 5: show up at an alien spacecraft and remove dead alien bodies, 70 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 5: that would seem like it's something to keep really quiet. 71 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 5: I mean, if you or I you're in the CIA, 72 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 5: do you think if you had shown up at an 73 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 5: alien spacecraft and there had been dead bodies that were 74 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 5: not human pulled off that spacecraft, that you would have 75 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 5: been able to not tell anyone about that. 76 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: I mean, even here, zero percent chance that that could 77 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: be kept secret. Paced on my time in the Central 78 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: Intelligence Agency and knowing the people who work there and 79 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: their mindset. No chance you're pulling the equivalent of little 80 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: green men out of a flying saucer that has crashed again. 81 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: To that point, really good at intergalactic travel or whatever, 82 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: not so good at avoiding the rocky mountains or something. Yeah, 83 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, look, I don't believe it. Okay, this guy's 84 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: testifying Capitol Hill. If people can get mad at me, 85 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: they can say I don't know anything, and I don't 86 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: know anything about UFOs, and I would love to know 87 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: a lot about UFOs, and I understand you know, it 88 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: always falls back into like well, you can't. I know, tomorrow. 89 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: No one can break the future. I always say it, 90 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: tomorrow there could be you know, remember the show V 91 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: You know, we could have the aliens that are actually 92 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: lizards that look like people and all that stuff. I 93 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: don't know. No one can tell you what tomorrow is 94 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: gonna bring. Do I think that the federal also? Do 95 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: I think the federal government has been covering this up? 96 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: I do not, And I would just ask why would 97 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: they cover it up too? Like, what's the well, what's 98 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: the incentive so we can have their like super badass 99 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: technology or something. That's kind of what I always here. 100 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: But I go, well, why, yeah, that's a great question, 101 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: And why so much technology that's so amazing that we 102 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: can't say we got from aliens in the first place, 103 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: if we got it, which we didn't, because this is 104 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: all crazy. 105 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 5: Well, so my first thought is conspiracies are hard to 106 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 5: keep up, especially conspiracies that just take a step back 107 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 5: are incredible stories. So it's hard to keep people silent 108 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 5: on things for a long time. The more people that 109 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 5: are involved, the less likely it is that it can 110 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 5: stay silent. Now you can say, well, this guy's testifying 111 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 5: under oath clearly it's not staying silent. But I would say, 112 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: if he's correct, it would mean that there are dead 113 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 5: alien bodies somewhere in the United States government's control. Right, 114 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 5: Presumably we didn't just bury these dead alien bodies like 115 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 5: in a field somewhere, but we would think, I would 116 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 5: think we would conduct an autopsy, like look into the bodies. 117 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: What are they, how are they constructed? What do they 118 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 5: look like? And can you admit a good question? 119 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? Can I make something about this? It's a little 120 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: bit like the JFK files for me too, where they're 121 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: hiding something, and it's usually that when the government is 122 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: hiding things from you, it's usually not things that are 123 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: really awesome. I'm just gonna again drawing on what I 124 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: know from you know, CIA stuff. It's not that it's 125 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: so cool or so interesting in secret, it's that it's 126 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: embarrassing in some capacity for the government. That's the that's 127 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: the most Why won't they release this thing from fifty 128 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: years ago? Who cares now? 129 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: Now? 130 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: Why can't we all know? Because government agencies still they 131 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: view themselves as brands in a sense, right, I mean, 132 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: like the FBI brand has gotten very beaten up last 133 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: few years. Among others and others, and they don't really 134 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: want the you know, those government agencies don't want to 135 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: be they don't want to look foolish, they don't want 136 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: to look dishonest. Whatever, whatever it may be, anything related 137 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: to UFOs. The only reasons I could see for them 138 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: to keep it secret. And this is what this goes to, 139 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: is they there is some sensitive technological research they're doing 140 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: that somehow this touches upon that's the most charitable version 141 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: of it for the government side, or they look bad 142 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: we're doing some kind of weird experiments or meaning the 143 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: government that they don't want us to know about. You 144 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: know this Representative Burchett, he's a Tennessee guy. 145 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 4: You know. 146 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: I've met him, I think, but I don't know him personally. 147 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: Here he is cut thirteen. He's talking about this. He's 148 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: one of the leading lawmakers behind this investigation. Play it. 149 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 150 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: I don't want people to think we're going to bring 151 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 4: in little green Man or Line Saucer in this thing. 152 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: But this is starting the floodgates, and these gentlemen are 153 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 4: coming forward with what they see. 154 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: These are first hand accounts. 155 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 4: Isn't some some good old boy back in the woods 156 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 4: who's had too much to smoke or drink and he 157 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: spotted something. These are trained pilots and experts in their field. 158 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 4: I would say that the tic TAC of videos are 159 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: proof enough. They have no vapor trail, there is no 160 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: heat signature, there is nothing, and they defy all of 161 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: our laws of physics. The pilots can't define it, the 162 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: scientists can't define it. It is not the Russians. They 163 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: wouldn't be in Ukraine, it wouldn't be China. They already 164 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 4: own us, but they would really own us, and it's 165 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: not us. So where's it coming from? 166 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: So you know, he's very you know, reasonable when he 167 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: talks over Yeah. 168 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 5: So your question of why would they keep this hidden 169 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 5: is I think fascinating. So one is buck I could 170 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 5: see them believing that there are amazing technological advantages that 171 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 5: they could get by Deconstrus diructing this alien spacecraft, and 172 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 5: if they crashed for some reason in the United States, 173 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 5: we don't want China to know that We're trying to 174 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 5: unpack whatever their technology is for future advantages in combat. 175 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 5: That would be one. Again, I still think it would 176 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 5: be very hard to keep it quiet. Two would be 177 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 5: and this is more ominous. Two would be they have 178 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 5: discovered that there is alien life, and that alien life 179 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 5: has basically told us, hey, we can destroy your planet 180 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 5: at any point in time, and they don't want a 181 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 5: panic to ensue because all of human life is basically 182 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 5: in the hands of people that we really don't understand 183 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 5: in any comprehend in any way. And how much panic 184 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 5: would Think about what COVID did? Okay, think about what 185 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 5: COVID did that killed what point one percent? You know, 186 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 5: ninety nine point nine percent of you got COVID and 187 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 5: you were fine. If, for instance, an alien life form 188 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 5: had arrived here and said, hey, you know, we have 189 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 5: the ability to obliterate all human life in the snap 190 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 5: of our fingers if we decide to do so. I 191 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 5: would think that would probably create a little bit of 192 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 5: a panic in the United States and around the world. 193 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: Weren't you a creative writing major along with the history major, right, 194 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: or you have a creative writing degree because that was 195 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm ready for the screenplay, my man, You're 196 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: good to go with that one. 197 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 5: I like, well, I mean, I just I think through 198 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 5: what would create a conspiracy of silence? One is okay, 199 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 5: we're trying to gain a competitive advantage right to answer 200 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 5: your question, because I think it's a good one. Two is, 201 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 5: all of humanity is under direct mortal peril, and they 202 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 5: know that panic will ensue if they tell us how 203 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 5: much mortal peril we're actually in. 204 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: Those are the two lead. There is the great premise 205 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: for a movie, right, like trying to keep it from 206 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: everybody that once in a while we get a visit 207 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, I don't know, we might have 208 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: to just vaporize your whole planet, you know, But we're like, no, 209 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: please don't, and then we have to pay them off somehow. 210 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 5: I don't know the question that I come back to again, 211 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 5: and we're going to take some calls on this. Maybe 212 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 5: we'll ask Chris Christy what he thinks, not only about 213 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 5: the plea agreement in h in Delaware. He's got a 214 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 5: wide scope of potential topics here as we typically cover 215 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 5: every single day, but also yeah, I'm I'm sorry, Yeah, I'm. 216 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: Getting lit up already by the emails, lit up just 217 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't see it. 218 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 5: Because they're mad at you for saying, yeah, look, I mean, 219 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 5: there's your real ally here. 220 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: I am on the record. 221 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 5: I think that there are is alien life forms than 222 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 5: that they have visited Earth that I'm on the record, 223 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: And by the way, buck, let me just say this, 224 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 5: I would not be stunned. 225 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: I really wouldn't. If we look at some. 226 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 5: Of the things that have been created in ancient history. 227 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 5: My god, I'm not kidding, the Pyramids, the Stonehenge of 228 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 5: the City, I would not be surprised if superior UH 229 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 5: technology has been shared at some point in time historically 230 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 5: UH in in human life. 231 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: Because here's the other thing. 232 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 5: If you believe that aliens have visited our planet, by 233 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 5: the way, could be time travelers. You want to get 234 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 5: even creepier. What if it's not alien life forms? What 235 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 5: if there is just the ability that somewhere in the 236 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 5: future they unlock the ability to travel back in time 237 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 5: and then they crash heer every now and then, and 238 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 5: we're totally threatening the space time continuum if we in 239 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 5: any way acknowledge what might have happened. I'm just saying 240 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 5: I have expansive like universe of potential outcomes every day 241 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 5: in life, and so none of those things would stun me. 242 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: Right when you guys don't know that Clay has a 243 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: flex capacitor in his radio Studio. I think about it. 244 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 5: If aliens are capable of traveling to America today, let's 245 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 5: say they're going to come, it's twenty twenty three. Why 246 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 5: wouldn't they be have been able to come in thirteen 247 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 5: twenty three or eight twenty three, right, Like, why wouldn't 248 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 5: that have been possible at some point in time? 249 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: Look, I think the movie Predator is fantastic, and you know, 250 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: who knows, Maybe they just show up. Sometimes they do 251 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: some kind of trophy hunting, and you know what I mean, 252 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. Here's one going'll really blow your mind. Buck. 253 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 5: What if the asteroid that killed all the dinosaurs wasn't 254 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 5: actually an asteroid? What if it was in some way 255 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 5: propelled by an alien species to test something on Earth 256 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 5: hundreds of millions of years ago. 257 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: I just want the millions of people who are listening 258 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: right now across the country to know that, according to 259 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: at least some of the vip emails were getting, I'm 260 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: the crazy one. I'm sitting here. 261 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm not giving a yes or no. I'm 262 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 5: saying like I am, like I am. I have a 263 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 5: wide range of possibilities that I will consider on any topic. 264 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 5: I just I think look historically, Buck, if you and 265 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 5: I had been doing this show in sixteen forty, I 266 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 5: don't know how the show would have been just attributed. 267 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 5: We're sitting up on a stage and there are all 268 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 5: these people throwing tomatoes at us right like while we're talking. 269 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 5: We could have thought in sixteen forty, we would have said, 270 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 5: we've discovered everything. There's nothing else that humans could ever 271 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 5: uncover about life, and we would have looked laughably absurd. 272 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: Fifty years later, one hundred years later, and. 273 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 5: Today we'll look back like the most brilliant people of 274 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 5: their age would have said, Hey, you're sick, let me 275 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 5: go get a bunch of leeches, will flood, will take 276 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 5: out as much of your blood as possible. 277 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: That's going to get you healthy. 278 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 5: So I'm skeptical of science and of people who claim 279 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 5: that they know the never This. 280 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: Is the this is the moving the goalpost with the 281 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: UFO thing that drives me insane. I make no promises, 282 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: have no analysis, no thoughts about whether UFOs will visit 283 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: the Earth, whether something could happen. I'm only interested in 284 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: what has happened and will I think it has happened. 285 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: I think they've been here. 286 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 5: This it's a leap of faith right now, that guy 287 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 5: just testified not only have they been here, we took 288 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 5: bodies out. 289 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: Now that seems like a step beyond. It seems like 290 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: I miss I missed the guys in the eighties and 291 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: flannels and trucker hats who were like then the aliens 292 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: grabby outside the bar and it's like, wait, what you know? 293 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: And how many people have seen them? 294 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 5: I mean, can we get the guy who testified about 295 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 5: the alien bodies on Congress? 296 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: Get them? We're gonna have to get them on and 297 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm you know, it's gonna be the reverse of the pens. 298 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: They would be like are you serious, or be like, hey, hey, 299 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: he's an expert. He's trying to answer questions. All right, 300 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: we'll get back in. Well, we'll take your emails and 301 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: calls on the UFO thing. And we also have Chris 302 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: Christy coming up in a little bit. We'll talking about 303 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: the hunter plea deal. Man's energy comes from the testosterone 304 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: in our bodies, not from UFOs or out of space, 305 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: but that reservoir off testosterone can run lower than it showed, 306 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: especially with age over time. You can try to power 307 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: through it. You can try to just drink more coffee, 308 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: but why not actually do some that will really help 309 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: over the long term. Chalk Nutritional Supplements. 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We'll get 326 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: to those calls later third hour. We'll do more UFOs now. 327 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: The Hunter Biden deal. The latest reporting from ABC News 328 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: as of this moment, As of this minute, the deal 329 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: is off. It was on, it was off, it was on, 330 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: and now it is apparently for now off again. I 331 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: don't under I mean, I've never I don't think anyone's 332 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: ever heard of this before. No, this is this is unprecedented. 333 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 5: So I'm reading from ABC News right now breaking no 334 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 5: plea deal amid judges concerns. Hunter Biden pled not guilty 335 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 5: to tax related misdemeanors. ABC News, I'm told has now 336 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 5: broken into their programming live outside of the courtroom because 337 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 5: I'm watching it stream on my phone right now. 338 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 2: Uh. 339 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 5: ABC News special report, no plea deal amid judges concerns, 340 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 5: Hunter Biden pleads not guilty to tax related misdemeanors. This jest, Buck, 341 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 5: I mean, holy hell, I mean, everything is falling apart. 342 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 5: We got UFOs, we got unterbided. I don't even know 343 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 5: what's going on. We're gonna continue to break this down. 344 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 5: This is a hell of a day of breaking news 345 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 5: in basically every single direction. 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He is running 361 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: for president and Governor Christie, appreciate you being with us. 362 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me fellas happy to be back. 363 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: So so can we start. We do want to get 364 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: into the politics, the campaign, all that stuff. But as 365 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: you know today, huge news back and forth, all this craziness. 366 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: You're a federal prosecutor for for years in New Jersey, 367 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: and as you see what's going on right now in 368 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: Delaware in this courthouse, that the plea deal for Hunter 369 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: Biden is on, then it's off, and it's on, now 370 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: it's off again. Apparently he just pleaded not guilty. What 371 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: is going on here? 372 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've been talking about this for weeks, 373 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: fellas that I didn't think this judge would approve this 374 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: plate because it didn't make any sense. To give him 375 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: a plead to a two cant misdemeanor tax deal and 376 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: to dismiss the gun charge and to give him immunity 377 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 2: going forward made no sense, and I didn't I think 378 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: a judge would approve it. And I've been saying that 379 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: for weeks. And I'm glad that the judge showed that 380 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: someone's paying attention here and who cares about justice being done, 381 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: and she obviously does and made sure that she wasn't 382 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: going to approve this deal under those circumstances. And so 383 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: it's one felt he pled not guilty. They say they 384 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: have an ongoing investigation into other matters that they will 385 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: not give him immunity for. So you know, he's back 386 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: in the jackpot. 387 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: All right. 388 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 5: So I'm curious. We're talking to Chris Christy. You are 389 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 5: a US attorney for a long time. Have you ever 390 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 5: had a plea deal fall apart in open court like 391 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 5: this point one point two? Why don't and in situations 392 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 5: like these, shouldn't there be cameras in federal courthouse so 393 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 5: instead of relying on the few handful of reporters that 394 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 5: might actually be there in matters of this magnitude, shouldn't 395 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 5: the American public be able to watch these play out 396 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 5: in real time, whether it's this case or potentially a 397 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 5: Trump prosecution down the road. 398 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I never had a plea deal 399 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: fault in open court, and certainly I'm not. You would 400 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: never let it happen on a cases prominent and noteworthy as. 401 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: So this is unprecedented. 402 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 5: That's what I just want to get at for people 403 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 5: out there listening like this just doesn't happen in your experience, 404 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 5: and you're pretty well experienced in these kind of cases. 405 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: I ran the fifth largest office in the country for 406 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 2: seven years and we we did one hundred and thirty 407 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: political corruption prosecutions without a defeat. We're one hundred and 408 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: thirty and zero. I never sa like this. Secondly, as 409 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: for cameras in the quorum, I have a problem with 410 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: cameras in the courtroom at all. Look I think that 411 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: there are times when people will put on a bit 412 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: more of a show in the court room if they 413 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: know it's on TV. But otherwise, I think the trade 414 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: off you get in transparency for the public to see 415 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 2: exactly what's going on and be able to make their 416 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: own evaluations of what's going on, almost like a public 417 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: jury who's going to sit out there and actually be 418 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: able to see it rather than read the characterizations. I 419 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: think the trade off getting that is worthit. You know, 420 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: strionics you might see in a court room because of cameras. 421 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 5: Okay, so you've been in these situations for a long 422 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 5: time as a US attorney. What will happen now in 423 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 5: your mind associated with the Hunter Biden investigation, and maybe 424 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 5: more importantly, what should happen if Chris Christy were Attorney 425 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 5: General of the United States? 426 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: How would you handle this? 427 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 2: Well? If I were returning to here in the United States 428 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: right now, I would end all of this bologna that's 429 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: been going on and appoint a special counsel. You know, 430 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: you simply can't be seen as objective now that there 431 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: are very clear allegations from whistle blowers about potential involvement 432 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: in the president of the United States and you're prosecuting 433 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: the sitting president's sun there should be a special council. 434 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 2: Ends of discussion. I mean, this is not even was 435 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 2: in a close call before. Now I don't know how 436 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: Merrick Carland says, Oh yeah, US Attorney Weiss is qualified 437 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: to handle this. US Attorney Wis couldn't get a plee 438 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 2: deal approved. I mean, the incompetence on this from the 439 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: government side of it is breathtaking, breathtaking. And yeah, the 440 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: defense attorneys have a problem as well. They should have 441 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: had this button down or they should have never walked 442 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: into the courtroom, but they don't have the burden to 443 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: proof and they don't have the power of the government 444 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: behind them. I would tell you it is if I 445 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: aus is who had screwed this thing up this badly, 446 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: they'd be looking for a new job. And I probably 447 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: would be looking for a new job too if I 448 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: had overseen it that way. So you know, my point 449 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: to you is the most important thing now, I think 450 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 2: is for the Attorney General to stop the charade, get 451 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: rid of US Attorney Weiss, off of this case, and 452 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: a point a special counsel who can investigate everything and 453 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: do it independently. 454 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: Speaking of Gunnor Chris Christi, former governor of New Jersey. 455 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: He's running f or president and Governor Christy in that regard, 456 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: do you think that additional charges are imminent against your 457 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: top competitor in the Republican field, Donald Trump? And how 458 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: do you see that playing out? 459 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: Because I can tell you that I never sent the 460 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: target letter to someone unless I already knew that I 461 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: had more than enough evidence to indict them. And so 462 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: I think once the target letter was sent laying out 463 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: specific statutes that they were the target of an investigation, 464 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 2: I think that it is inevitable that Donald Trump will 465 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: be indicted by the Special Council for a second time. 466 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: It will involve the three statutes that were cited in 467 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 2: the target letter, it may involve other ones as well, 468 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: and it may involve you don't know that. But what 469 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: I do know from the target letter is no US 470 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: attorney is or in this case, Special Council is going 471 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 2: to send the target letter without having every intention of 472 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: indicting the target. 473 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 5: We're talking to former New Jersey Governor Chris Christy's running 474 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 5: for president in the Republican primary. Sorry, this Hunter Biden 475 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 5: thing is just so crazy, and I know you're trying 476 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 5: to get your hands wrapped around it as we are 477 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 5: as well. And I just want to reiterate for our audience. 478 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 5: You did seven years of prosecutions one hundred and thirty, 479 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 5: I think you said, of political based prosecutions, when one 480 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 5: hundred and thirty and zero you've never seen anything happen 481 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 5: like what happened here. What is Is there any doubt in 482 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 5: your mind that if Hunter Biden weren't the son of 483 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 5: the President of the United States, that he'd be facing 484 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 5: serious jail time based on your knowledge of the criminal code. 485 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 5: And second part of that, I asked you what should happen? 486 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 5: What do you think will happen like if you're Joe 487 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 5: Biden and you're Merrick Garland and you've just seen everything 488 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 5: blow up like this. First of all, it's blown up 489 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 5: in such a public way, Governor that even all these 490 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 5: people who don't want to cover the Hunter Biden story, 491 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 5: you know, this is the proverbial crap hits the fan 492 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 5: moment wherever, spraying in every direction, and it's almost impossible 493 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 5: even for them to cover up. What do you think 494 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 5: they're thinking? Put Buck and I like to talk as 495 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 5: if we were, you know, the other side. Sometimes, let's 496 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 5: presume Joe Biden's brain actually works and he's capable of 497 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 5: having a rational discussion with reasoned advisors. 498 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: What would that discussion look like? What do you think 499 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: they're saying right now? 500 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: Look, I think that if you're advising the president at 501 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: this point, if the president is, I don't think the 502 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: President should have conversations with Mereck Carland, because I think 503 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 2: it would be even more inappropriate for him to talk 504 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: to Merrick Garland about this. Merrick Garland should know on 505 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: his own that it's ballgame here, game over playing with 506 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: US Attorney Weiss. Yes, he was appointed by Donald Trump, 507 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 2: but I gotta tell you it looks like he's pretty 508 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: frigging incompetent. I gotta tell you the truth. And Merrick 509 00:26:54,000 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 2: Garland should be calling the White House. In an hour, 510 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: I'm sending out a press release announcing the special counsel. 511 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: That's it, because now appears that you know, an independent 512 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: federal judge has said that this plea deal. She's now 513 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: said what I've been saying for weeks, that this plea 514 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: deal makes no sense. You can make no sense of 515 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: why the defense is doing this or why the prosecution 516 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: is doing it. And as a result, if something makes 517 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: no sense. What I learned in this business, Fellows is 518 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 2: there are no coincidences, none, and you need to have 519 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 2: a special counsel come and look at this. And I 520 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: think that is what will happen. I don't think that 521 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: you can avoid it. If you're Merrick Ireland anymore, who's 522 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: gonna have confidence in US attorney? Weis after you couldn't 523 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: get plead deal passed a judge that, by the way, 524 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: his office probably appears before five days a week. Delaware 525 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: is not a big player. There's not that many judges there. 526 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: This judge probably has a usas from the Delaware office 527 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: appearing before her on a daily basis. And if she 528 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: won't trust what they're doing, how the hell should we 529 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: trust it. 530 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: If you were thinking about this from the perspective of 531 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden defense team, what do you think their 532 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: play is now? Assuming that the special counsel, let's put 533 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: that aside for a second, what would their next jobs 534 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: here be? 535 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: Well, their first move is gonna be said, shoot, we 536 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: almost got away with it. That's gonna be the first thing. 537 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: Then they didn't get away with I think now you 538 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: know they're gonna have to see they're gonna reactive mode 539 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: now because they can any longer assert that they have 540 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: an agreement. So now that's why they answer it to 541 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 2: not guilty play because it was an arraignment, and an 542 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: arrangement is when the purpose of an arraignment is for 543 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: a defendant to either a guilty or not guilty plea. 544 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: If it's a guilty like it was supposed to be today, 545 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: then the judge goes through what's called an allocution, where 546 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: the judge asks serious questions to establish the factual basis 547 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: for Hunter Biden's guilty plea and the legal basis for it, 548 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: and the fact that he was doing so freely with 549 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: advice of counsel and not under duress of any kind. 550 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: Once all those questions are answered, and assume they're answered 551 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: in the affirmative, then and only then would she accept 552 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: the guilty plea. So now she has an arraignment that 553 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: she thought was a guilty plead. No guilty plea. You 554 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: can't just turn the arrayment with doing nothing. So she said, okay, 555 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: I'm not accepting this plea. Hunter, what's your pleasure? And 556 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: they answered a not guilty plea, And now they're going 557 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: to go back to the US Attorney's Office. My guess 558 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: is they try to see how the US Attorney's Office reacts, 559 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: and before anything happens with a special counsel, they try 560 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: to negotiate another plea. That's why I think the Attorney 561 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: General has to step in. We cannot trust this US 562 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: Attorney's Office to negotiate another plea after they so royally 563 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 2: messed up this one. And so I think if your 564 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: Hunters lawyers, you think you almost got away with it, 565 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: you didn't. So now you've got to try one more time. 566 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: But my guess is that they won't get another chance 567 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: to negotiate a plea, at least not with the Delaware 568 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: US Attorney's Office. My guesses they're going to have to 569 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: see US counsel. 570 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: Well. 571 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 5: First of all, we need to get you on again, 572 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 5: because the timing on this ended up being perfect for 573 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 5: you to break down this crazy breaking news Happnario guys, 574 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 5: but we didn't. We didn't get a chance to get 575 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 5: let you kind of get into the political realm. 576 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: But this was killer. 577 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 5: Thank you for breaking this all down for us. I mean, 578 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 5: I can't imagine there being a better guest that could 579 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 5: have put this. 580 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: We'll have them back, Governor Christie. We'll have you back. 581 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: We had you back the second time, so you'll come back. 582 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: All right. 583 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: Look, I love the show. I'm glad that you had 584 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: me on. I'm glad that it's timed this way because 585 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 2: I did this job for seven years of my life. 586 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: I love the Department of Justice when it's done the 587 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: right way, and I will isn't it. I'll let you know. 588 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: I will appoint an Attorney general who will prosecute these 589 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 2: cases without fear, favor or partisanship. And we're going to 590 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: restore the Department of Justice to what it was when 591 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: I work, which was the place that protected the country 592 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: from nine to eleven and stopped corporate crime and stopped 593 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: political crime. This obviously the Biden White House doesn't care 594 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: a lick about any of that stuff, and they better 595 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: get their act together and appoint a special counsel. So 596 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 2: thanks for having me on, Fellas, and I'll be happy 597 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: to come back when it's good for all of you 598 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: and we can talk about as much politics as you like. 599 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 5: Sounds as thank you appreciate that, Governor Chris Christy. I mean, 600 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 5: perfect timing. Given this chaos, we're going to continue to 601 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 5: break down what exactly went on. 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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 624 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I just want to re emphasize what Chris 625 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 5: Christie said, because we're flying right now live on the 626 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 5: air and Buck in the space of when we came 627 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 5: on the air, the report was the Hunter Biden plea 628 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 5: deal is off. Then twenty five minutes later we updated 629 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 5: it with the Hunter Biden plea deal is back on, 630 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 5: and then about thirty minutes ago the report came down 631 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 5: the Hunter Biden plea. 632 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: Deal is back off. 633 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 5: And I don't know that we could have had a 634 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 5: better guest already scheduled to be able to talk about 635 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 5: this with a great deal of expertise than Chris Christie, 636 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 5: who was a US attorney and he basically said, look, 637 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 5: US attorney wise who was assigned on this case is 638 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 5: incompetent and if this ever happened to him, that he 639 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 5: would lose his. 640 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: Job, and that whoever worked underneath. 641 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 5: Him would lose their job because he's never seen a 642 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 5: plea agreement. To make it clear for everybody, this is 643 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 5: supposed to be a rubber stamp from the judge. Okay, 644 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 5: I agree. What we have been talking about on this 645 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 5: show is the judge needed to not accept it. 646 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: You're right. I kind of say that something like ninety 647 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: seven or ninety eight percent of federal federal criminal cases 648 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: end up in a plea deal. So this is the 649 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: most I mean, this is what they're doing all the time. 650 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: This is the ultimate legal ground ball for federal prosecutors, 651 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: defense attorneys to judge. And this turned into a train wreck. 652 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Clay, we're sitting here, it's on, 653 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: it's off, corruption is alive, and well, oh no, the 654 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: justice system actually still has some backbone. Back and forth, 655 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: back and forth. It's insane. Yeah. 656 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 5: And again this is the proverbial crap hits the fan, 657 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 5: and that's not the word usually people use, moment because 658 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 5: I think it's now going to be impossible for the 659 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 5: big media organizations out there to pretend that this is 660 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 5: not a monster. Your story for Joe Biden, for Hunter 661 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 5: Biden and Buck also associated with this is I think 662 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 5: what happened was this deal was such a sweetheart deal 663 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 5: that the judge looked at it and said, I can't 664 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 5: in good conscience even rubber stamp this because they were 665 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 5: trying to give Hunter Biden not only no punishment for 666 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 5: what he's done, but to make sure you can conclude 667 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 5: future punish, which is this time. 668 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: Can I just point out Jeffrey Epstein was given a 669 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: plea deal in Florida in federal court and this actually 670 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: caused a resignation from an official during the Trump administration. 671 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: If you all remember but Clay in that plea deal, 672 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: it was for Epstein and future unnamed co conspirators or 673 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: unnamed co conspirators in the act, so other people that 674 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 1: were involved with him couldn't be prosecuted that you hadn't 675 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: even named, Like, that's not a thing that exists. This 676 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: deal that Hunter Biden got, not a thing that exists. 677 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: And that's what the judge finally came to. She's like, hey, guys, 678 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: come on, so we will contextualize all of this. 679 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 5: Plus, by the way, somebody just testified under oath at 680 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 5: Congress that alien spacecraft have landed here and we have 681 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 5: pulled dead aliens off the ship. As if it wasn't 682 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 5: a crazy enough day. Otherwise, we'll try to put all 683 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 5: this into context. Eight hundred and eight two two eight 684 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 5: A two we'll take your calls. Third hour of the 685 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 5: program coming up. Who the hell knows what might happen 686 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 5: in the third hour so far, based on how the 687 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 5: first two have gone. 688 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: At least, I think it's unlikely Hunter Biden's gonna run 689 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: back into court and be like, psych, I'm guilty. Like so, 690 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: I think we're good there for today, but it's been 691 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: a wild ride. Everybody. Thanks for being here with us. 692 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: We'll get to UFO emails, UFO calls. Plus Clay did 693 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: an interview without kick yesterday. We'll talk about that with 694 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: Governor Ron DeSantis. That's all coming up.