1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper. Square are presented by a hard rock 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: that we are part of the Volume and Podcast network. 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: This is the show that makes the square. Sharper makes 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Milman. I'm 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host, my companion, my compadre, 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: my BFF professional better signon Hunter L. 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: So I'm in chat. I'm a little worried. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: My life is peaking right now and honestly could not 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: be better. 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Because of Tyrese Maxi and Edgecombe. 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean v VG. 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 3: I think they set a rookie not a rookie record, 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: rd backcourt record for most points and assist and rebounds 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 3: and everything through the first three games. And your bulls 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 3: are undefeated as well. You're three and zero as well. 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: Between VJ Edgecombe and Matus Buzells, I feel like we 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: are in a golden age of fandom here. Obviously, last 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: night I wanted to bring this up for a second 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: because I've got a question for you. Freddie Freeman with 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: his second World Series walkoff home run in as many years. 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 4: Angelo Gorman's a five out of Summer Cool Bar Show's 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 4: going Back before. 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 2: The Right The Last World a game three contic. 24 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: I asked my kid the other day, and my kids, 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: by the way, my kit turn's nineteen today. And I 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: say that because he's not anyone who grew up in 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: the world where baseball was anything anybody was rooting for. 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: It's clearly like below NBA and NFL in terms of 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: fandom and in terms of audience and all those kinds 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: of things. But I said to him, game winning Game 31 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: seven winning walk off World Series home run, catching the 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: game winning the game, when he touchdown swaying the game, 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: when he touched down in the Super Bowl Game seven, 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: game winning shot to win the NBA five World Cup 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: game winning goal. What do you choose? What did you choose? 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: What do you choose from those? 37 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: I mean the home run, obviously you can't beat it, 38 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: but I'll always go with March Madness last shot. 39 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: Nice. I don't care. Like, to me, we missed a moment. 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: I'm a Duke fan, we missed that. 41 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: Moment with Butler Heyward half court, heave off the backboard, 42 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: just missed like that. That to me is peak like 43 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: it doesn't get a much better twenty one to twenty 44 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: two year old hitting that shot David vers Elias. 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: But I'm with you. The basketball one to me his peak. 46 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: Huh. What's interesting is me fifty four year old man 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: living in the suburbs, my son nineteen year old in college, 48 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: wildly different experiences growing up as sports fans. We both 49 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: chose Game seven walk off home run in the World 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: World Series, and I've been trying to think about why, 51 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: and after the Freddie Freeman stuff, I realized it. It's 52 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: about pace, it's about moment. It's about time you hit 53 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: that home run, and it's it's like fifteen seconds of 54 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: anticipation and glory, right because you know it's going out. 55 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: The entire stadium is on pins and needles, it goes out, 56 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: everyone goes nuts, and then you got ten seconds of 57 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: running around the bases and when you hit home plate, 58 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: it is just the enthusiasm, the passion, the happiness, the 59 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: enthrall of all of it just lasts longer. The anticipation 60 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: is greater. Everything else is such a moment, like you 61 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: can't believe it. This you get to soak in it. 62 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: That's why I think the Game seven World Series walk 63 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: off home run easily the best. 64 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I told you, Andy's gotta be careful. Baseball 65 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: is having a moment, I thought. 66 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: It's having a moment. 67 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: After Barry Bonds, I thought I would never see a 68 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: player like that ever again, Like Barry. 69 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: Bonds, to me, you can say cheated. 70 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: We all know he probably cheated, but allegedly he's to me, 71 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: the greatest player ever. The guy like they couldn't pitch him, 72 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: he had to walk him. He was so incredible. Otani 73 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 3: is just the ultimate. It's he's the greatest athlete probably 74 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 3: we'll ever see in sports right now. I'm sure there'll 75 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: be another one that comes along, but never say anything 76 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: like it like he just even last night they interviewed him. 77 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: I think he went four for four, hit him something insane. 78 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: A couple home double. 79 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: They said, how you feeling, he goes, I need to 80 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: get the bet. 81 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: I had to pitch him all and like, it's just 82 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: an insane while we're living and like I joked with 83 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: a buddy, we're big baseball fans, he invented something that 84 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: never existed before. That's how you know you are a 85 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,559 Speaker 3: once in a lifetime game changer. 86 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: I know, Tani. 87 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 3: It's when you shrike out the side to start the 88 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: game and then we hit an opening home run in 89 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: the first that Batani, so it's like the guy is 90 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 3: just a living. 91 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: Legend Otani when Bin Yama Shae Luca Ma homes like 92 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: we are living in an age of unprecedented athletic ability. Listen, 93 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: speaking of ability, we got a big announcement, big huge Okay, okay. 94 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: We went three and two last week and our five 95 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: favorite picks from our Sunday morning show. 96 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: The ones out there. Sorry people, we did. 97 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: We did. It's like, how do we go three and 98 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: two when probably the best week we had all year? Overall? 99 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: It isn't it is we dodged. I think favorites went 100 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 3: ten and two, so I'll take it. 101 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we won with the Patriots, the Texans, and the Broncos. 102 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: We lost with the Giants and the Steelers. For the year, 103 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: we're twenty four to sixteen through eight weeks with our 104 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: five favorites. But that's not the news. A lot of 105 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: old heads may remember our producer Matt Mitchell, who Matt 106 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: Mitchell from the fighting City of Rochester, New York, the 107 00:05:53,760 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: Paris of Western New York, the prints of the Bill Mafia, 108 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: a made Man, Milwaukee's Finest. It's really old Milwaukee and 109 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell are the best representatives there are of Milwaukee 110 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: today to welcome back to the show, mister. 111 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 4: Matt Mitchell, Well, well, well what cue it is outstanding, 112 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 4: Chad Simon, It's wonderful to be back on these precious, 113 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 4: hallowed airwaves with you. I resigned my position at Action 114 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: Network about five weeks ago. I am very grateful to 115 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 4: our beneficent overlords now here at Volume for taking me 116 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 4: in and now I get to play totally out of 117 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 4: context Chad Noman drops like this one. 118 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: That's Mac Jones right now. He's a witch nipple quarterback. 119 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 5: We got Chad's favorite phrase, hit. 120 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: People in the fucking mouth, run it up their fucking throat. 121 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: That's it. 122 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: And my personal favorite, da Dad, I have an erection. 123 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 4: Who can even remember why these were said in the 124 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 4: first place. But now that I'm back in the saddle 125 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: here there's a new sheriff in town. I am thrilled 126 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: to be here before I get the hell out of 127 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: here and we get to week nine, which is what 128 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 4: people care about. I've been at the helm before this season. 129 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 4: I've been at the helm of this show from the 130 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: production side for about seven years. I love this show. 131 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: I wanted to share something I've never shared before, and 132 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 4: that is because Bill's cheaps coming up this week obviously 133 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,679 Speaker 4: big game for us Bill's fans. The morning of the 134 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two AFC Divisional Round game, the thirteen second 135 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: game between Buffalo and Kansas City. 136 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 5: I actually got a voicemail from Patrick Mahomes. 137 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 4: And I know that will come as a shock to 138 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 4: a lot of you because I'm a nobody and Patrick 139 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 4: Mahomes is the greatest quarterback in the NFL. Butt for 140 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: the first time ever, I'm going to share that voicemail 141 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 4: with you. 142 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: Got to be ready now here we go. 143 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 6: I want you to listen very carefully, Mafia. Before this 144 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 6: night's over, I will kill you. But before I kill you, 145 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 6: I will make you suffer pains so unimaginable. You will 146 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 6: wagle and beg and pray for the gift of death. 147 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 6: But when you wake up in hell, you won't find peace. 148 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 6: You know why, Mafia, because I'll be there waiting for 149 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 6: you again. 150 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 4: For you, and he was several times waiting for me again, 151 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: including this weekend. 152 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 5: So shout out, Patrick Mahomes. Thank you for haunting both 153 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 5: this life and my afterlife to follow in hell. 154 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: Well, listen, Matt, We're so glad to see your face. 155 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't the same without you. I know people will 156 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: love hearing all of the ridiculous drops. They will get 157 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: to enjoy a timeless and evocative experience in audio, which 158 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: is your love. Now we can like talk about the 159 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: Bills and their tragedy of a season that is about 160 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: to unfold, and we can do it with you in 161 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: our heads and reference the fact that this is this 162 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: is unbelievably painful. 163 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 5: For you, every day's waking nightmare. 164 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: If anyone out there has any questions, complaints, want to 165 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 4: voice displeasure in any specific way on Twitter, Old boy, 166 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 4: Uncle Mitch, ol Boy, Uncle Mitch, you can say whatever 167 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: you want to me and I'll make sure it gets 168 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: filtered up the chain. 169 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 5: So feedback is always again. Best of luck, boys, go outside, ner, 170 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 5: get out, go. 171 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: I ain't got time to be distracted by your worthless 172 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: chime mans. 173 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: Go. 174 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: All right, Well, look, we're going to talk about this 175 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: Kansas City Buffalo game as we get into it. This 176 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: is the Tuesday Show. We're going to review the entire slate. 177 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: We're going to check out that Sunday AM show if 178 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: you want the games that we will be our official 179 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: five after we've had a chance to review the latest 180 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: moves and injuries. 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All right, 207 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: let's kick things off with Thursday Night but Ball Amazon 208 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: Prime eight to fifteen. Here's my question, the real bet 209 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: that I wanted to make, which already the Cats out 210 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: of the bag. John Harball will definitely and clearly announce 211 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: his starting quarterback in advance of this game. Yes, was 212 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: minus one thousand, No was off the board. I mean, look, 213 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: it's priced in. The Ravens opened at seven and a 214 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: half point favorites. They continue to be seven and a 215 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: half point favorites. Part of me feels like we're getting 216 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: value here because if not for the short week, and 217 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: like how the home teams have been doing in these games, 218 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: I do think anecdotally betting the home favorite has been 219 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: betting has been better than betting the home underdog. And 220 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: now we're basically getting Lamar Jackson off of what is it, 221 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: five weeks of rest against a Dolphins defense that against 222 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: the run other than this past week, has truly been horrific, 223 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: and the Falcons were not at full strength, so talk 224 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: me off of betting the Ravens. 225 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: We might have to call this trap week Chad trap 226 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: by the way. 227 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: It feels like that, right. 228 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: It needs to be though like this the public we 229 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: talked about to New Age and we have adjusted. 230 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: I mean, last week proved that. 231 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: I still can't believe we had a winning week when 232 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: the favorites win ten and two whatever, it was something 233 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: insane like that. 234 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: I think it was eleven and two and they won 235 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: by yeah, after last night, and they all won by 236 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: an average of like eleven points or something like that. 237 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: I mean, our moneyland run Robin. 238 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: If you could have just gave it on the spread, 239 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: we didn't even need Like That's how chalky this past 240 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: week was. So I just everyone out there, you can 241 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: keep getting away with it, but it's going to catch 242 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: you in. This week is line up to a week 243 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: to catch people here, and this started off with this game. 244 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: I can't tell people to back like you just said. 245 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: Lamar hasn't played in five weeks, which is good. He's rested, 246 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 3: but he's also totally out of rhythm. So this is 247 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: the perfect team to get in rhythm against that he 248 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: could do it. I'm not going to force us to. 249 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: Make this one of our five or one of my 250 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: favorite bets. 251 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 3: But like you're telling me, I'm getting in Miami plus 252 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: seven and a half two at home against a Ravens 253 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: defense that I still think is highly suspect. Like you said, 254 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: I mean I went back and watched a Caleb game. 255 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 3: There were opportunities that there were plays to be made. 256 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: He just had an off day. This is to his environment. 257 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: It's at home, as you know. As much as I 258 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: don't want to give him credit when he plays bad defenses. 259 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: You know that scheme, that run scheme they have, it 260 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 3: all works right. So that was the biggest thing I 261 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: took away too from that game last week was just then, 262 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: NOI I know, it's not the biggest name, he's an 263 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: older guy, him not him being injured and the Ravens 264 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: not having true pass rushers. That's like a real thing. 265 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: There. There was no guy that scared you. 266 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: I mean you know that with Yeah, last week he 267 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 3: had time like it's just him doing stupid stuff and 268 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: missing throws is why they didn't work last week. So 269 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 3: I am shocked to see all the money, all the tickets, 270 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 3: everything right now is on this Ravens side. Like I 271 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 3: don't know you, I feel like I got away with 272 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: them last week with that one. 273 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: We kind of told it, well, look, we totally got 274 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: away with it last week. You know, even down to 275 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: the very last play of the game. We talked about 276 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: it on Sunday. The Bears still easily could have gotten 277 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: in the back door because you could have seen them 278 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: going for two after scoring a touchdown and making this 279 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: a thirty to twenty four game. We got way way 280 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: lucky with that game. But that also tells me something. 281 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: The fact this number hasn't moved off of the seven 282 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: half after the news about Lamar basically being set, basically 283 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: being said he's going to be the starter, and that 284 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: all the money and the tickets are coming in on 285 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens. This number hasn't moved tells me that somebody 286 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: somewhere likes the Dolphins aggressively. 287 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: Which is shocking because I as much as I get it, 288 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: like I talked about, this is a nice to a spot. 289 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: It's like we are talking about back in a Dolphins 290 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: team after a huge road win, when the whole five 291 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: we're not talking about. 292 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: So I just I'm on Miami. 293 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: I'm just I can't get over as something that's taking 294 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: a position now on the Ravens. Obviously a couple of 295 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: weeks ago to win their division and everything like that, 296 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: this is no doubt a must win game. But this 297 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: is the type of game that does trip up this 298 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: type of team. So you can get plus three point 299 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: thirty plus, you know, three forty right now Miami's money line. 300 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: If you're if you're taking the plus seven and a half, 301 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: you have to sprinkle a little bit on that Miami 302 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: money line. 303 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: It's just a weird spot. 304 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: It's a short week on the road for a Ravens 305 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: team that has a quarterback that is not in any 306 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: type of sink or flow with the offense. So if 307 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: this was if Lamar had played this past week and 308 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: this was a Sunday game, I think this is a 309 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: worthy number. Minus seven and a half after all those 310 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: things is worthy. No, no game and a short week 311 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: for this Ravens team that you know they're not a juggernaut. 312 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: This is not Ravens of last year. This is a 313 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: team hanging on by what feels like a thread right now. 314 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: This Ravens team minus seven and a half is just 315 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: totally totally aggressive priced in line feels like too much 316 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: respect for a team from last year, not a team 317 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: for this year. So again another time where I just 318 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: am shocked the books have opened this, But like Chad said, 319 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: the fact they haven't budged it shows the books and 320 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: some betters are taking very big positions on this Miami team. 321 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: All right, Chicago at Cincinnati, the Bengals are two and 322 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: a half point underdogs. The professionals came in on the 323 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: Bears pretty early and they should absolutely eat against this 324 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: team right now. Joe Flacco and Trey Hundterson both considered 325 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: day to day. Flaco with the shoulder hundred percent with 326 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: the hip he did not play latter half of that game. 327 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: They can't get a pass rush. Their last in the 328 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: league in pass rush win rate, which is basically how 329 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: fast you can get two opponents or beat opponents off 330 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: the line on passing downs. The Bengals defense gave up 331 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty yards rushing to the New York Jets. 332 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: I would think after last week, whether they were playing 333 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: the Bengals or they were playing the number one rushing 334 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: defense in the NFL. Ben Johnson is not interested in 335 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: putting the ball in Caleb's hands in moments of leverage. 336 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: He wants the Bears to dominate on the ground. That's 337 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: how he has built his career. Just because the lines 338 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: you scored a lot of points doesn't mean that they 339 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: were just a pass happy team. They dominated on the ground. 340 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: That's what he wants the Bears to do. We saw 341 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: the Bears do that during their win streak. This has 342 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: a good opportunity to get back to that. So it 343 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: makes sense to me that the money has already come 344 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: in on the Bears, and with I kind of I 345 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: need more intel on Flacco and Hunderson, but the Bears 346 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: under three to me, I just love I love so 347 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: many favorites this week. And you said it's trap week 348 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: and I know, uh, but the Bears are the side here. 349 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I honestly was going to be all over 350 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: the Bengals. 351 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 3: This was gonna be a nice bounce back spot for 352 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: but Flacco is truly banged up. I don't know if 353 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 3: people looked at this depth chart, you don't want to 354 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 3: see what's behind them. You don't want those guys come 355 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 3: in here. So yeah, between these two teams and all 356 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: their injuries, I need to know who's back in this 357 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: Bear secondary and uh. 358 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: Not a lot of people. 359 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: It's bad, right, So I mean that's the thing. 360 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 3: It's like again, we have to give up picture, you know, 361 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 3: the over it's probably the spot where most we're going 362 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: to go. But I don't know how you can take 363 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: a position that over orsider anything like that without knowing 364 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: what Flacco's health is. So you're right, like, if you're 365 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 3: gonna make an early bed here and you have to 366 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 3: make a play Bears minus two and a half, that 367 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: to me is the safest regardless of what's going to 368 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 3: happen going forward of a bet right now, compared to 369 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: a Bengals team where if it is no Flaco just 370 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: could easily bump up to four or five, you know, 371 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: another two or three points. So yeah, this early line value, 372 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 3: your early read here is definitely right on this Bears. 373 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: Team Atlanta at New England, this number is bumped down 374 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: from five and a half to five. At hard Rock Bet, 375 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: there's still a bunch of five and a half's out there. 376 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: It originally moved on Sunday two points from three and 377 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: a half up to five and a half. That was 378 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: wise guy money moving the number and totally made sense. 379 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: You had just seen a Falcons team very shorthanded, no 380 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: pen X, no Michael Pennox, no Drake London. They were 381 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: without Zach Harrison, who's their leading pass rusher, on a 382 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: very bad pass rush. They Jesse Bates midway through the game, 383 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: so you could see why the number moved and why 384 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: the wise guys pounced on it. Also, the Drake May 385 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: phenomenon continues. Even when he was sacked five times, he 386 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: was still throwing bombs and breathing touchdowns. But I understand 387 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: the buyback. I haven't gotten confirmation on who's going to 388 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: be playing for the Falcons. If I knew it was 389 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: going to be Penis, if I knew Drake London was 390 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: going to be playing, if I knew Jesse Bates was 391 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: definitely going to be back. Zach Harrison is still questionable. 392 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: He's the only guy who's gotten any pressure on this defense. 393 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: I'd be more comfortable paying playing the Falcons, But until 394 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: I know who's playing, I kind of can't play this. 395 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's another game where we're supposed to play 396 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: the Falcons. This is probably supposed to be three to 397 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: three and a half line, and you know it's just 398 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: a tough spot for us where it's like we don't 399 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: know the health of any of these guys. I have 400 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: no doubt out that even if Kirk is cleared, I 401 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 3: don't know if I'm even going to bet it. Maybe 402 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 3: if it gets up to seven and a half or 403 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 3: some key number like that, I can bet on Kirk. 404 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: But he just looks so bad and so out of 405 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: sink last week and just someone that's not you look 406 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 3: like somebody has not be practicing with the ones right. 407 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: He just did not look all running that offense, and 408 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: everything suffered because of that. They couldn't run the ball 409 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 3: either against a horrible run defense because the defense new 410 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 3: we can just stack the box make Kirk try to 411 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 3: beat us. So I'm with you, not going to force it, 412 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: even though it's this New England stuff is just insane. 413 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 3: You look at their glass couple of games. They're playing 414 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: like a top two, top three AFC team right now. 415 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: They're just an absolute juggernaut. So yeah, I'm not gonna 416 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: rush to stand in front of them unless I have 417 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 3: a good number and I know the health of this 418 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: Falcons team. But yeah, everyone can tell if this is 419 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: Pendix and this is you know, a fully healthy Falcons 420 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: team Stummer is inflated, but as we sit here right now, 421 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: properly priced, Like if this is what you're looking for 422 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 3: a Drake Mavers Kirk Cousins, Yeah, I would take the 423 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: Patriots here and tell you this. Hard Rock is the 424 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: only book at five. Every other book is five and 425 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: a half. So if you want the best number of 426 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: the Patriots, hard Rock has it. 427 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers visiting the Tennessee Titans the numbers nine 428 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: and a half. It's dropped down from ten. So some brave, 429 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: brave soul professional syndicate, I don't know what has come 430 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: in on the Tennessee Titans. It's a big number to 431 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: cover for our oft injured, underperforming heroes in Los Angeles. 432 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: But this is the week we bet them right when 433 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: they are road favorites against a terrible team after we 434 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: didn't bet them as home favorites against a decent team, 435 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: should be an auto play for us and the Chargers, 436 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: the team we are constantly chasing and never getting right, 437 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: and it turns out this will be the Titans week 438 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: to actually play like an NFL team and cover the spread. 439 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: So I just feel like on the field, I know 440 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: what I should do mathematically, I know what I should do. 441 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: Emotionally and spiritually, I kind of just don't want to 442 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: do anything with this, and I know I'll find things 443 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: I like more. 444 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: No, I'll be in a constant battle every week trying 445 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: to get Chad to fade this Tennessee team. And you 446 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: missed it last week Shold went all over the Colts. 447 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 3: We missed it. And the same thing here with the Chargers. 448 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 3: What is there to back this Tennessee team? They are down, 449 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 3: they're number one, number two corners, which I can say 450 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 3: it's not that big of a deal. 451 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 2: The number one corner a guy. 452 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: They paid off the Chiefs for millions and millions of dollars, 453 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: that's a big deal. Your number one run defender, Jeffrey 454 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: Simmons being out, that's a huge deal. So if it's 455 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: no Ridley again, no Jeffrey Simmons, Like, if they're done 456 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: all these major pieces and they're already terrible team with 457 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 3: bad coaching minus nine and a half, I will promise 458 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: you I will get there. I will get there on 459 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: that Chargers team, no doubt about it. So yeah, I 460 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: I would love to hate on the Chargers and be like, 461 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 3: you're right, this is probably a tightened spot, but I 462 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 3: still think the books are just. 463 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: I see clearly now. 464 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 3: I feel like we were just so blind last year 465 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: and I just as someone that's just been fading this 466 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 3: Tennessee team, it's the best. It is just the best. 467 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 3: They are just such a train wreck. Everything about them 468 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: is like even their coaching decisions, Like they had a 469 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: couple of punts last week where it's like, does this 470 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 3: guy I understand he's playing against a cold team that's 471 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: just going to keep scoring against them, Like you can 472 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: be fourth and four from your own twenty and it's 473 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: a sima point game. You should be going for a 474 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 3: Tennessee You don't have a functional defense right now. So yeah, Chargers, 475 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 3: I'm with you. That was last week was their best 476 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 3: game of the year. I could see them keep rolling here. 477 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: This Chargers team just feels like another great matchup for 478 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: them where they want to run the ball and there's 479 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: just no defenders downfield that can stop lad McConkie Keenan 480 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 3: Allen like that type of I mean, they're tight end 481 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 3: now for the charge. 482 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: Dolphsin's the stud. This rookie tight end Rond Gaston. 483 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: I used to love Horonde Gaston when he played for 484 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, he had massive hands and was so good 485 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: at catching the ball. A huge, huge fan of Ronde Gaston. 486 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, just I get where you're coming from. It's like, 487 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: is this line too big? I don't think it is. 488 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 3: So I'll grab the nine and a half while still can, 489 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: and I think this gets back up to ten. 490 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 2: Ten and a half. 491 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: Minnesota at Detroit. Detroit is an eight and a half 492 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: point favorite. Very excited to hear your response to my 493 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: analysis of this game because the first thing you said 494 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: off the top of the show, as soon as you 495 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: said that it's trap week, my mind immediately went to 496 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: this game. And I don't care because Chad's choice, presented 497 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: by hard Rock Bet, is going to be the Detroit Lions. 498 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 2: Are you sure you want to do this? Are you 499 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 2: willing to make a choice? What choice? 500 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: We can't run from way out? 501 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: Sharp dues can just see it, you know what I mean. 502 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: And when I bet this on Sunday night, I thought 503 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: great because I got it eight and a half. By 504 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: Sunday night it was up to nine and a half 505 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: and it steam seemed like it was just gonna steam 506 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: more aggressively across the board. And then Monday, it started 507 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: dipping down, it got back to nine, it got back 508 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: to eight and a half, and it's kind of just 509 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: steady at eight and a half right now. And I 510 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: truly don't get it, Like we're talking about a Minnesota 511 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: Vikings team that has kept JJ McCarthy on the bench. 512 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: He may or may not have been ready, but it's 513 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: an awfully long time for the injury that he had, 514 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: And they rolled out Carson Wentz who was playing with 515 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: torn labram separated shoulder going out there against the Chargers 516 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: in agony. Now they're bringing JJ McCarthy back against the 517 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: Lion's pass rush that is fierce, against the Lion's secondary 518 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: that is getting Brian Branch back from suspension, Kirby Joseph 519 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: back from injury, Terry and Arnold back from injury. They 520 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: are at home. Christian Darisol left the game last week 521 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: for the Vikings with a knee injury. The Lion's rushing game, 522 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: we know it's elite. We know that Dan Campbell and 523 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: Jared Goff at home covered at about a seventy clip. 524 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: And everyone talks about how great the Vikings defense is 525 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: and their pass defense is good, the rush defense is bad, 526 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: not mediocre, not you know, not something we're o. They're 527 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: just not as good as the pass defense. It's just 528 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: a bad rush defense. It's bottom ten and multiple advanced 529 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: analytics categories that bring all of the numbers together to 530 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: give you a holistic look at the rush defense. So 531 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: I know you're going to tell me it's a trap. 532 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: I'd walk into this trap all day. Give me the no. 533 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: Not really though. 534 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 3: It's the vikings on the road with a rookie tankically 535 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 3: a rookie starting quarterback, right, it's what it is, third 536 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 3: start or second start, So it's not There's other games 537 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: way more stinky than this one. 538 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 2: I'm with you on the lines. 539 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: I have just said ten tagulalarly get a point a 540 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 3: half of value the one bone I do have to 541 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: pick in life. We all make mistakes and we all 542 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: have to apologize. Kirk kurb street Man the stuff he 543 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 3: was saying about Carson Wentz talking about how he's not 544 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: acting like a leader. He shouldn't be throwing his helmet 545 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: and he shouldn't be in pain on the sideline after 546 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: getting demolished. He needs to act more professional. Okay, you 547 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 3: expect apology today or yesterday. It comes out this guy 548 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 3: is playing two straight games with a torn collar. Mode 549 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 3: he like he doubled down, doubled down into it, and 550 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: it's like, dude, get Kirk Kurve Street and his damn 551 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: dog out of my sport. I am now officially totally 552 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 3: out on this guy. I didn't mind him because he 553 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 3: is a wet blanket with an old man al Michaels 554 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: and sure, let them just talk about nothing for two hours. 555 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: I do not care. 556 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: It's Thursday night football. I am just so out on 557 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 3: this guy now. I can't tell you how mad I 558 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 3: was once I found out that this man was playing 559 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: with these grueling injuries and this guy is just telling 560 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: to act more professional. It's like, is this guy out 561 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 3: of his mind? This guy doesn't even know half these 562 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 3: people on this team because he only watch his Big 563 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: Ten football in college football. He needs I just don't 564 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 3: even get me start Kirk Curveshet. It's been a lot 565 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: obviously a rough night and he hadn't had a lot 566 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: of help. 567 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 4: But to me, when you're when you're the captain of 568 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 4: the ship, you're the quarterback, you got to try to. 569 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: Hold some of that emotion in. 570 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: And I know he's it's frustrated, and he's hurt, and 571 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: he's hurt, but it's weak seven. 572 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: You know, there's a long way to go, and I 573 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 2: have something that's just raw emotion. 574 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: You think that I would have more opinions on the announcers, 575 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: having been in media for so long, I don't even 576 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: think about the announcers other than Troy Aikman, who's the 577 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: best cover guy in the history of sports. But I 578 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: go to bed at halftime and it's glorious. I'm not 579 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: even listening to these guys. 580 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: I am unfortunately, and Kurk get out of my sport. 581 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: Go back to college where they have drums in the stands, 582 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: they're in games and all that bullshit, Like, I just 583 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 3: cannot have this man in the NFL anymore, disrespecting my family. 584 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: Hero. 585 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: Of course, can you go back to telling me how 586 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: right I am? 587 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: Then, just I'm with you. I love the lines here. 588 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 3: Doesn't this feel like a great spot? 589 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 1: And like great spot? It makes it going makes no 590 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: sense to me. 591 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 3: Well, I wanted to dive into it because it's like, Okay, 592 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: maybe this is a Florist line, right, Let's let me 593 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 3: dive into how is golf on against these Florida's defenses 594 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 3: in the past and truly really well, Like going back 595 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: to twenty twenty two, the Lions beat them thirty four 596 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: to twenty three. The next game twenty three, they beat 597 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 3: him thirty to twenty four. And again this is what 598 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins, being the quarterback of this Vikings team, keeping 599 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: these games kind of close. 600 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: Okay, let's go Sam Donald. Year. 601 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 3: That was a really the first game they played, thirty 602 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: one to twenty nine. It was a really great game 603 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: by Sam Donald. And what we're again, you're seeing a 604 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 3: pattern here of thirty points every time against his Florid's defense. 605 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: And then, of course we remember last year the decide 606 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: number one seed Golf. This Detroit team beat the hell 607 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: out of the Vikings. It beat him thirty one to 608 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: nine to be the one seed last year. So I'm 609 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 3: with you and the fact that every match I've seen 610 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: Golf play against his Florid's defense, he's had thirty points 611 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: or more. Is I really don't see this kid coming 612 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 3: in here and putting up twenty one to twenty two 613 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 3: points against this Lions team. 614 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: So pretty shocking, chat. I'm with you on it. I'm 615 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: excited to dive into the trends here. 616 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 3: But of all the quarterbacks that I just don't like 617 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 3: betting this big favorites. 618 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: I've never wavered that. 619 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 3: I always feel confident, Yeah, betting golf as a big 620 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 3: favorite at home indoors. So if I've been standing on it, 621 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 3: we've been doing, I'll join your brother. I love your 622 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: chat's choice this week, fantastic. 623 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: I love it. 624 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: It's super choky though. 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Do 663 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: you know how I know it's exactly nineteen minutes and 664 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: seventeen seconds. I don't because on what was it Sunday night? 665 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: The Packers were up at halftime. I forgot what it was, 666 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: and it was Pittsburgh was Pittsburgh was up seventeen to 667 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: six whatever it was night, Yeah, something like that, sixteen 668 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: I think it was sixteen seven. So I've just been 669 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: staying up way too late, and I got to go 670 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: to bed, and so I go to bed at halftime, 671 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: and I'm ready to turn off the lasse. I like 672 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: to read for a little bit before I go to bed. 673 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: It helps me fall asleep. And I say to my 674 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: wife as I'm rolling over, Hey, just type into Google, 675 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: gimme Steelers Packers score right now, and she gave me 676 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: the score. She said it was nineteen fourteen with five 677 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: forty three left in the game, and in the third 678 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you're with me, thank you, and I'm like, okay, great. 679 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: So when I woke up and so I was thirty 680 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: five twenty five, I remembered exactly what the score was 681 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: and the time was when I went to bed. And 682 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: by the way, I can't recommend going to bed at 683 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: halftime of a game when you have a bet enough, 684 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: because otherwise you're spending the next three hours Ajita Better's 685 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: math stressing out and then you're not falling asleep when 686 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: you have no impact on the outcome and you can 687 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: wake up and feel better. And it's a two minute thing. 688 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously bad bet by hus Pittsburgh felt good 689 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 3: at halftime, like we were saying, but uh yeah this again. 690 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 3: I don't want to quick the refs, but basically the 691 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 3: game chat stupid enough came down to Rogers thought he 692 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 3: on off sides. The refs didn't call it even though 693 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 3: it was clear off sides. Playing his day off sides 694 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 3: with the defense. They punt give the block to Jordan Love. 695 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 3: I think it was thirty and ten blits in his face. 696 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 3: He has an under thrown ball just off his back 697 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 3: foot Jordan Love and Tucker Craft a little bit of 698 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 3: a push off, but just an insane play by him, 699 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 3: catches it and takes the ball, say seventy yards downfield 700 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 3: Tucker Craft, and after that point I think they scored 701 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 3: like three straight times. 702 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:47,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just over. 703 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 3: Jordan Love finally got in rhythm and they were just unstoppable. 704 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 3: And yeah, this this is the type of game where 705 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 3: even if this was Bryce Young, I'd probably still try 706 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 3: to find the way to be on the Packers like 707 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 3: we always do these adjusted lines. I'll find a way 708 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 3: to get there. But a mince twelve and a half. 709 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 3: I don't have confidence betting Jordan Love at that big 710 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 3: of a number, and Panthers wise too much unknown right. 711 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: Now, we don't know about Bryce Yeng. 712 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like I told you, there's no world I'm 713 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 3: gonna put money on any Dalton again. So yeah, I'll 714 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 3: be patient here, maybe do some early teasers on this 715 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 3: Packers team. But the hope is if it is Bryce Young, 716 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 3: maybe it drops a blow ten, we get a better 717 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 3: number on teasers. Whatever, take a position. But this is 718 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: a game I'm just not betting this week. 719 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: Bryce Young ran on Monday, but we will know more 720 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: about his status on Wednesday. Indianapolis Colts the Juggernauts at 721 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers plus three. So look, we got caught 722 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: in a rah rah Mike Tomlin spot on Sunday night. 723 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: They were three and a half. We bet it. Did 724 00:37:53,719 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: we learn that his rah rah mojo cannot overcome consistently 725 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: bad past coverage and aging defensive backs on Sunday night? 726 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: Did we learn that it's a problem when the player 727 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: generating the most results from pressure is not TJ. Watt 728 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: or Alex Highsmith but a linebacker named Nick Did we 729 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: learn it's a problem when you're playing a lot of 730 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: man coverage and a lot of single high safety against 731 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: quarterbacks who can eat that up, including by the way, 732 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, who's been dicing up single high safety coverage. 733 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: So that's a problem. That's a problem. I don't want 734 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: to get stuck raw raying our way to another l 735 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: because of what our history says. 736 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, because this is definition of a trap spot for 737 00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 3: this Colds team. 738 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 2: There are absolutely. 739 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 3: Juggeringn out seven to one playing against a Pittsburgh team that. 740 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 2: Not only they lost to in a row. 741 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 3: They've looked down right, like Chad just said, embarrassing, horrible, 742 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 3: atrocious defensively in those games. So minus three on the Colts, 743 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 3: I probably will still take that number as we see 744 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 3: here right now. Like it to me, Pittsburgh should be 745 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 3: plus three, plus three and a half plus four up there, 746 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 3: not just sitting right now like they are. You know, 747 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 3: it's it's a Colts number still at minus three, So 748 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 3: I know it's the stinkiest, chalkiest bet ever. But Chalk 749 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 3: has been winning. Like we've said, in home field, it's 750 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 3: just not hitting like I used to, and a couple 751 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: of games I'm forcing us to take some of these 752 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 3: dogs at home, but I just can't get there. In Pittsburgh. 753 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 3: That was all lined up for them right the first half. 754 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 3: They gave up an opening drive touchdown and then they 755 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 3: had a kicker in miss two field goals, and it's 756 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 3: all there. It was just all lined up for that 757 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 3: type of Tomlin game. The defense had rallied, they were 758 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 3: playing better, looking better, and they just all the offense 759 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 3: and the defense just fell off a cliff in the 760 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 3: second half. It's just like Chet said, it ain't hitting. 761 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 3: It like he used to. Like this is even go 762 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 3: back two or three years ago with Mason Rudolph, we 763 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 3: would be all over Pittsburgh here in this spot, but 764 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 3: I can't get there. This Colts team does feel like 765 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 3: an absolute juggernaut, and maybe I can get us to 766 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 3: avoid taking the Colts on Sunday. But as we say 767 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 3: right now, it's like I love this team at minus three, 768 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 3: just feels like they're still being undervalued by the market. 769 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: They're just in what world is this close? 770 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 3: We're gonna need a total meltdown for Daniel Jones, and 771 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 3: when you have the MVP as a running back, does 772 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 3: that happen. It's just like you just said, they're gonna 773 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 3: have to play single high safety to take away this 774 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 3: run game, and Daniel Jones has been burning it, burning it. 775 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 3: So I'm just trying to find reasons, trying to look 776 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 3: at the numbers finding for Pittsburgh. Can't do it, even though, 777 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 3: like Chad said, every ounce inch of our body is 778 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 3: telling us to take Pittsburgh here and this is the 779 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 3: definition from a trap. But I just once again can't 780 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 3: get there on this Pittsburgh team. 781 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: You just said the magic words, and I love that. 782 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: When we're in a mind meld because we have not 783 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: discussed this, but you said undervalued and MVP, and the 784 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: other day yesterday, I was sort of thinking about this game, 785 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: and I was thinking about Jonathan Taylor, and we've talked 786 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: about a couple of games this year. We've backed the 787 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 1: Colts because of Jonathan Taylor, not because of Daniel Jones. 788 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: So of course I had to go check the MVP 789 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: odds to see where is Jonathan Taylor in the current 790 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: race to be m v P after the weekend that 791 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: he had against the Titans. Right now, the people are 792 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: ahead of Jonathan Taylor in the MVP race. Patrick Mahomes, 793 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Drake may Matthew Stafford, Baker Mayfield. 794 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 2: Dan what gen my guy hurts up there? 795 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: He's not up he's he's oh my god, I. 796 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 3: Think total touchdowns, he's got one pick, and he's had 797 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 3: played the hard schedule in football. 798 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 5: Daniel Joness, this is, oh my god. 799 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 3: I'm about to lose my mind right now because I 800 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 3: don't look at MVP shit, but holy. 801 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: Al Daniel Jones, Jordan Love, Jared Goff, and then and 802 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: then Jonathan Taylor at twenty to one. 803 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 2: That's still honest. That's too high, you know, Taylor. 804 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah's incredible. Hold on one second. Let me oh, by 805 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: the way, Since yesterday, Jonathan Taylor has dropped from twenty 806 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: to one to sixteen to one, ahead of Jordan Love, 807 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, and Jalen Hurts, who was just behind Jonathan Taylor. 808 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: But here's what's crazy about Johnny. 809 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 3: Three straight game three touchdowns, right, he had some crazy 810 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:50,439 Speaker 3: record like that. 811 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: Three games three touchdowns this season, the last running back 812 00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 1: and he's had I think three touchdown three three touchdown 813 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: games this season. The last running back to have that 814 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: many was Loudanian Tomlinson with five when he won the 815 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: MVP in two thousand and six. The only other running 816 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: back to win MVP between two thousand and six and 817 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: this year is Adrian Peterson when he had you know, 818 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:22,240 Speaker 1: two thousand yards for the Vikings in twenty twelve. Jonathan 819 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: Taylor's had ten touchdowns in the past four games, the 820 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 1: first time that has happened in a four game span 821 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen. And this one from our good buddy 822 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell at ESPN, who posted this yesterday and his 823 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 1: always must read Monday recap column. Jonathan Taylor has accounted 824 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: for three point nine percent of all the league's rushing 825 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: yards by a running back this season. His team is 826 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: seven and one, and thank god, even in the past 827 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: twenty four hours since I looked at this, his eyes 828 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: had shrunk a little bit. So there is some semblance 829 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: of common sense amongst NFL betters for recognizing Jonathan Taylor 830 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: having an historic year. By the way, he is minus 831 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: two fifty to win Offensive Player of the Year, so 832 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: we know that, we know that's the running back award. 833 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: But it's just ridiculous that we become such a quarterback league, 834 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: quarterback focus league, that a guy who is doing things 835 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: that is really carrying this team, Jonathan Taylor is the 836 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: most important player on this team right now and they're 837 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: seven to one and. 838 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 3: Say that, and I get where you're coming from, But 839 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 3: talk to a Colts fan, a real Colts fan, about 840 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 3: what life has been like after Andrew Luck. It's just 841 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,479 Speaker 3: the quarterback position. Nothing's really changed. I know they added 842 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 3: Warren the tight end, but you saw that team last 843 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 3: year with Anthony Fristin and Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor's had 844 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 3: good years, but nothing comparable to this. And that's just 845 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 3: the difference. A good quarterback makes because you can just 846 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 3: run different plays and schemes, and yeah, this year, I 847 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 3: think you're spot on on the fact that he is. 848 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,959 Speaker 3: We agree he is the best player of football right now. 849 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 3: But if Mahomes gets that one or two seed and 850 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 3: keep putting off the numbers he's putting up, of course, 851 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 3: I know. 852 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 2: That's what sucks. 853 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 3: So that's that's the tough part because it's as incredible 854 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 3: as he is. The Eagles won the Super Bowl and 855 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 3: Saquon our MVP ran for fifty yards, like it just 856 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 3: you can take that position away and you can win 857 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 3: by forty points in the Super Bowl. If your quarterback 858 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 3: can't complete the ball twenty yards downfield, it's just that's 859 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,439 Speaker 3: never gonna happen, right, That's why the quarterback is so 860 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 3: much more important. So it just sucks for Taylor. Like 861 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 3: you said, if he keeps putting these numbers up, it's 862 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 3: gonna make it a real decision because that's the only 863 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 3: thing that Saquon was missing. He had the yards, you 864 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 3: just didn't have the touchdowns. So that's the last time 865 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 3: we want it. Like Chad said, Ladanian Thomason, he had 866 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 3: the storyline, he had the touchdowns. Adrian Peterson when he 867 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 3: won it, he was coming off a major kne injury 868 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 3: and like, we just didn't that year there was no 869 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 3: good like great quarterback so it could line up. I'm 870 00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 3: not trying to tell people it's a dumb bet. I 871 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 3: wouldn't make it just because it's it should be fifty 872 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 3: to one. That's that's the type of odds it really 873 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 3: is in actuality. 874 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: All right, San Francisco at the Giants, Giants are two 875 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: and a half point dogs. I know it's Chalky did 876 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 1: like the Niners here, but after playing the Texans defense, 877 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 1: this is going to feel like playing against eighth graders 878 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: because the only rush toy worse than the Titans is 879 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: the Giants, literally the only one, and that's what the 880 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: Niners are gonna want to do. And now all of 881 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: a sudden, the Giants are without Camp Skataboo, and I 882 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 1: think it's a tough road to go down right now 883 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: because that's spirit, Like their spirit was just taken from them. 884 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 3: What is this line though, And that's like this was 885 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 3: almost Simon says, I'm not forcing it because the Giants 886 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 3: are the right side here, but I think it's gonna 887 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 3: get the plus three maybe plus three and a half because, 888 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 3: like Chad said, it's it's gonna be all love for 889 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers here. There's a lot of underlining 890 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 3: numbers where this is a good matchup for them, and hey, 891 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 3: maybe Purty we'll be back and I'll move it even more. 892 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 3: But my god, does this line stink the holy hell 893 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 3: them giving us under a field goal here because it's 894 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 3: a no brainer niner spot after that bad loss. 895 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 2: I just do not get this line at all. 896 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 3: The books are not here to give out free money, 897 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 3: so man, I'm with you, it's very tempting. My model 898 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 3: loves the forty nine ers year like I have this 899 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 3: right now at minus four, whether it's Max Jones or Purty, 900 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 3: it's a point a half of value. 901 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 2: That's a ton of value, so key number. 902 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,879 Speaker 3: I just I don't There's so many games I'm already 903 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 3: being a sucker, and I can't be a sucker on 904 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 3: this one. This is giants are nothing at all for me. 905 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: Denver at Houston Houston minus one and a half. This 906 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: is flipped from Houston plus one and a half. You 907 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 1: mentioned this Sunday night, you liked Houston. We both bet 908 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 1: Houston at plus one and a half. The line has 909 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 1: moved largely because pascertain is going to be out, and 910 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: so now you've got a basically the two probably two 911 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: of the best defenses in the NFL, especially when it 912 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: comes to rushing the passer, going against each other. And 913 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: I would have felt better about the Broncos chances even 914 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 1: though I had bet the Texans if Passer Taine was playing, 915 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,240 Speaker 1: because the Broncos are so good at getting extra pressure 916 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: with five guys because they know Passer tain is on 917 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: somebody and they can they can not worry about that 918 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: side of the field. I think that this is a big, 919 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: big difference, and I'm just glad I got the plus 920 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 1: one and a half. 921 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, once again, trap game. 922 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 3: It's the public is going to be all over this 923 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 3: Denver team once again. 924 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:37,839 Speaker 2: Just like last week. 925 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 3: You still be undervalued where people are realizing this is 926 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 3: one of the best defenses in football. They're legit juggernaut 927 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 3: and unlike Denver, who are going to be missing guys, 928 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 3: Houston's getting guys back and they're getting healthier and they 929 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 3: should have hopefully Nico Collins back, which will be a 930 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 3: big bump when they're down their number one corner in 931 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 3: Denver and Denver feels like a little bit of an 932 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 3: overvalued team. I know they're still a top of the 933 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 3: division right now that people are feeling good right that 934 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 3: huge blow win or the Cowboys, But my god, I 935 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 3: couldn't believe when I saw the splits on this game, 936 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 3: all the public love for Denver. 937 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,760 Speaker 2: It just makes it so easy in my job. 938 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 3: Like that again, them not being scared about this sign 939 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 3: flipping just shows just like that last week with the 940 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 3: forty nine ers, It's like, that's real alarms to you people, 941 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,760 Speaker 3: and those professional money is moving a number three points 942 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 3: this early in the week, that's a big deal. And yeah, 943 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 3: just matchups on the field wise, there are ways for 944 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 3: Denver's offense to attack this Houston team and exploit some 945 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 3: things that other teams have this year. But it just 946 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 3: feels like another spot where Houston defense at home they're 947 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 3: going to perform well against. I think bo Knicks, who 948 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 3: struggled against really good teams that disguise blitz packages, which 949 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 3: is what Houston loves to do with Demiico Ryans, He's 950 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,720 Speaker 3: just a really smart defensive mind. I mean, Kyle Shaneyon 951 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 3: talks about all the time. Him and Sala two of 952 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 3: the smartest guys, he's ever been around defensively, So how 953 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 3: much we love Salah, I say I have the same 954 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 3: respect here for Dimiko Ryan. So Houston was gonna make them, 955 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,720 Speaker 3: Simon says, if they were still plus one and af 956 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 3: like Chad said, the number has moved. Still think there's 957 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 3: value there, it's still under the key number of two. 958 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 3: Still think it's a good bet. But I'm like you, 959 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 3: I wish this was still us getting a good dog here. 960 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 2: But let's be patient. 961 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 3: Let's hope some smart group comes in on Denver, maybe 962 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 3: gives us back to being a dog here. But yeah, 963 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 3: like you said, I'm not rushing to take it. But 964 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 3: it feels like a really really good spot once again 965 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 3: for this Houston team. 966 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: New Orleans at Los Angeles. The Rams are thirteen and 967 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: a half point favorites, just a really big number. We 968 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: don't know who's playing quarterback yet for the Saints. Is 969 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler's era over is a time for Tyler Shuck. 970 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 1: We don't know what's going to be happening there yet. 971 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: There's been no word out of New Orleans. I don't 972 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: know that it really matters. I also don't really want 973 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 1: to bet the Rams anything outside of a parlay on 974 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: the favorites at thirteen and a half. They've won a 975 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: couple of games by pretty big numbers this year. 976 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 2: But. 977 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: Something about like I don't trust them. I don't trust 978 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: them as being a blowout team against bad teams, do 979 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 980 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 3: I think it's just because in the past they haven't 981 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 3: been and maybe this year is different and they're just 982 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 3: going to roll these bad teams and that's, you know, 983 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 3: something that's just fluky with them being this season. But 984 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 3: I'm with you, I have honestly no interest in taking 985 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 3: this game or betting this game, Like same thing with 986 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,759 Speaker 3: that Green Bay game that I think you already talked about. 987 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll take an adjusted line here on LA. But 988 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 3: I have a hard time trusting either team, let alone 989 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 3: this Saints team that we don't know who the quarterback is. 990 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 3: And that's a big deal to me trying to bet it. 991 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,919 Speaker 1: Good because I really want to talk about Jacksonville and 992 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders. Raiders right now are plus three 993 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: at hard Rock, plus three and a half elsewhere. I'm 994 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: not going to This came very close to being Chad's 995 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: choice betting the Jacksonville Jaguars good a minus. 996 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 3: Well, that's a trap. I want to make sure like 997 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 3: you're just like everyone else. It's the trap of traps. 998 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: Jags, Oh yeah, I love the Jacks here. 999 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just glad you stayed away. 1000 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,879 Speaker 1: No, no, like, I still bet the Jags minus three. 1001 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: Oh look, the jags biggest weakness, as I've said many, 1002 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 1: many times, is Trevor Lawrence. He's completing fifty eight percent 1003 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 1: of his passes and what is this line? He's not 1004 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 1: a very good quarterback? 1005 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 4: Is this? 1006 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 1: The Raiders defensive backfield is a trosis twenty seventh in 1007 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: the league in expected points added. Their propensity for zone 1008 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 1: allows for much bigger plays in the middle of the 1009 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 1: field and years after the catch. Like, if I have 1010 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 1: to trust somebody to improve over a bye week and 1011 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 1: both teams are coming off a bye week, is it 1012 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: going to be Liam Cohne coaching up Trevor Lawrence and 1013 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: finding a scheme that allows him to be comfortable to 1014 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: takeing advantage of a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible secondary Or 1015 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: is it Pete Carroll trying to figure out how to 1016 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 1: do what his specialty is supposed to be, which is 1017 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: improving the defense. I don't see it you say it 1018 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: the trap, I say it's an opportunity. 1019 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 2: Could be. 1020 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 3: You're definitely right, like the minus three probably is the 1021 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 3: best tum we're going to get on this Jaguars team. 1022 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: But that's also why I bet. I knew it was 1023 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 1: going in that direction. 1024 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only one way it could go, though, I 1025 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 3: don't know who is betting the Raiders. I do not 1026 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:38,240 Speaker 3: get once again, this line hanging right now is so stinky. 1027 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 3: It is so like these lines this week are ridiculous. 1028 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 3: I just I don't get it. Like the books are 1029 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 3: now our best friends, I guess because this is this 1030 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 3: is insane there, they're just the fact they willing to 1031 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 3: take for two days now, all this money on the 1032 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 3: Jaguars at this number is just mind blowing to me 1033 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 3: because no one's betting Vegas. Vegas the one of the 1034 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,359 Speaker 3: worst teams in football. They're undisciplined, they're poorly coached. Max 1035 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 3: Crosby was banged up before the bye week. 1036 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 2: Like, it's just so bad. 1037 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 3: And dysfunction right now. So yes, you're getting a good number. 1038 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 3: One model agrees with you. But as someone that's doing 1039 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,240 Speaker 3: this for a living and sees these lines every week, 1040 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,800 Speaker 3: I can I can't tell people to bet it. I 1041 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 3: can tell you the Jags minus three is the best number. 1042 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,839 Speaker 3: But I just this number stinks, such a trap game, 1043 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 3: such a bad spot. I just cannot give out the Jaguars. 1044 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: Coward total cower. 1045 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,879 Speaker 3: It's just sad, just a millionaire sports better. Okay, I'm 1046 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,760 Speaker 3: trying to protect people here. This there's all these games 1047 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 3: are so stinky, how easy they are, and this is 1048 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:42,439 Speaker 3: one of them. 1049 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 1: Kansas City at Buffalo. Kansas City is a one and 1050 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 1: a half point favorite, and it's moving since they beat 1051 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,839 Speaker 1: the Commanders. Do you have something you'd like to say here? 1052 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is my Simon says, but give me the 1053 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 3: Chiefs minus one and a half. 1054 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:06,320 Speaker 2: I want to play a game. Simon says, this number 1055 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 2: is moving. 1056 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 3: Hopefully people can get it at this number. It still 1057 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 3: is minus one and a half as you see right 1058 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 3: now at a hard rock, but a lot of books 1059 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 3: are already moving up to two and a half. Again, 1060 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 3: luckily for me, it's not super trappy. I was worried 1061 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 3: about this game when I first saw it. There are 1062 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 3: pros on the bills, there are guys taking positions on 1063 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 3: the bills, Thank god, because I thought this was going 1064 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 3: to be the public, everybody just like that Jags game, 1065 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 3: pros and the public lining up to take a number 1066 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 3: that I don't understand. I do not understand this Chiefs number. 1067 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 3: I thought this would be minus three. My model has 1068 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 3: it in Mius three and a half. It's still minus 1069 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,400 Speaker 3: one and a half at hard Rock. This is crazy, 1070 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 3: crazy value in my opinion, on the Chiefs that are 1071 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 3: fully healthy, in incredible flow state. Their whole offense is 1072 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 3: just rolling like that. I knew Rice would be a 1073 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 3: big injection to that offense. You would never know who's 1074 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 3: coming off a major knee injury. It's been a credit 1075 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 3: how good he's been since he's been back. So just 1076 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 3: Chiefs team to me, still being undervalued. 1077 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 2: The Bills. 1078 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 3: On the flip side, I can't get over how bad 1079 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 3: Josh Allen has been this season. That Bills game that 1080 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 3: was Josh MVP Allen. He has not been that quarterback 1081 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 3: in any game since then. It feels like every game 1082 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 3: I go and I watch of him. I don't put 1083 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 3: total blame on him, because I do think they've failed 1084 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 3: him with the receivers they've given him. They just don't 1085 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,879 Speaker 3: have guys that can get open for the most part, 1086 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 3: and you know, it's it's tough for me to go 1087 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 3: against Josh here, right, he's at home. I'm going to 1088 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 3: be a big home dog. But I don't think the 1089 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 3: Bills are good. And you talk about the injuries to 1090 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 3: their defense with Ed Oliver now being out again, It's like, Okay, 1091 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 3: it's a team that struggled against the run, already, has 1092 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 3: issues in the secondary stopping good passing offenses, and they 1093 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 3: don't have any type of pass rushers. 1094 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 2: So I just can't get there. 1095 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 3: This Bills team, to me, it's not priced right, It's 1096 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 3: really priced about Josh Allen being a home dog where 1097 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,359 Speaker 3: he's you know, excel at in his career. Right, Usually 1098 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 3: you think of him at home these type of games. 1099 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,439 Speaker 3: He's done so well. But you know, when I really 1100 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 3: dove into it and broke it down, it's like, when 1101 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 3: am I really backing here with this team? 1102 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 2: Other than Josh Allen? I couldn't find anything. 1103 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 3: So I know it's shocking both of us favorites for 1104 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 3: our favorite bets here we sit on Tuesday, But I 1105 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 3: do love the Chiefs on a short week on the 1106 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 3: road as a favorite. 1107 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 2: It's a weird spot for. 1108 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 1: Me, A weird spot when you say it out loudly. 1109 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 2: I know. I just also, it's price wrong. 1110 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 1: Ed Oliver's out, Like that's a big deal when you're 1111 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,919 Speaker 1: saying Ed Oliver is out for the Bills, and that's 1112 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 1: what you're sort of hanging your hat on as a 1113 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,439 Speaker 1: Bills fan, that he is the best defender and he's out. 1114 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: This Chiefs team defensively, offensively, they look so much better 1115 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: than they did last year. It's the exact right plays 1116 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball at the exact right time. 1117 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: They are not flustered. They really look like when moments 1118 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: of stress occur during the game, you can feel the 1119 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: tension across the field, right, you can feel it from 1120 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: the players, you can feel it from the coaches. You 1121 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: never feel that from the Chiefs. You just don't. It 1122 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: doesn't matter whether it's Spags or Andy Reid, Like you 1123 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 1: just don't feel anything nervous or anxious coming from them 1124 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 1: because they are playing in such a zone right now. 1125 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, we both love the Chiefs here. 1126 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and even last night a really stupid game where 1127 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 3: things weren't going their way, right, they've what seven points 1128 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 3: to start the game and also knows tied a half 1129 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 3: game on the second half, maybe the adjustments. 1130 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 2: They just dominated in every aspect. 1131 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 3: So, like you said, they're easily the best team of 1132 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 3: football right now. And yeah, if you're thinking of you 1133 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 3: know how wide open the NFC is right now, which 1134 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 3: I agree with the AFC, it feels like it's going 1135 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 3: to be the same old story. They's just the Chiefs 1136 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 3: just feel like they're far and above the best team 1137 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 3: right now. Other than injuries, the deal rayl at the season, 1138 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 3: they just feel like there's such a complete team right 1139 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 3: now compared to what, like you said, they were last year. 1140 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 1: All right, time to focus on our prime time spotlight. 1141 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about these games the standalones as 1142 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of a package. Seattle at Washington, Washington 1143 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 1: is three and a half. It started moving yesterday. You 1144 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,480 Speaker 1: liked Seattle Sunday when it was three. The line has 1145 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 1: moved in that direction. We would expect Jaden Daniels to 1146 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 1: be playing. Here's the real question for me, This is 1147 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 1: a trust Sam Donald game. The Commander's rush toy is mediocre, 1148 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: but the past d is terrible, bottom five in every 1149 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 1: category basically, So you know it's going to be about 1150 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,439 Speaker 1: Sam Donald and his ability to win the game, which 1151 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 1: he's done. I'm not discounting anything he's done. He's definitely 1152 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 1: won them put them in a position to win games 1153 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 1: this year, but they're not going to be able to 1154 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 1: out physical this team, which is how Seattle's been winning 1155 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:04,919 Speaker 1: games this year. 1156 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like we keep talking trap games, this is 1157 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 3: the definition of a trap game. Washington embarrassed primetime game. 1158 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Sure, we're at home with the quarterback coming back. 1159 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,919 Speaker 3: Like That's why I wanted to people to grab the three, 1160 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 3: because it's like, I just another game where it's like, what, 1161 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 3: there's only one direction for this number to go right? 1162 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 3: So I hope people got the three. Maybe you can 1163 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 3: still find it out there. 1164 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 2: Like our. 1165 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 3: Our tough choice will be, are we are we really 1166 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 3: back in sacks at master and a half. We know 1167 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 3: it's super public, super extinct. 1168 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 1: I don't know that we will, Like at three and 1169 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: a half, I'm. 1170 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 3: Still I'm probably still going to I know, I hate 1171 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 3: to say, I'm probably stilling to better chat. 1172 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,520 Speaker 2: I hate it. I'm hating myself for. 1173 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 3: It because I feel like I'm doing good avoiding like 1174 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,800 Speaker 3: that Jags game for instance, Like, but I don't know 1175 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 3: if I can avoid this one like this. 1176 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 1: Avoiding with the Jags is a win. 1177 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 3: I know, I know, but I feel like you forget 1178 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 3: the experience. I'm betting on Trevor Lawrence and it's going 1179 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 3: to hit you midway through the third quarter when he 1180 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 3: has four picks somehow against a horrible Raiders defense. 1181 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 1: But Trevor Lawrence, everything's going to be fixed. 1182 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 3: Like that's what I mean that when I'm betting these 1183 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 3: trap spots, it really is about the teams and them, 1184 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 3: And like I feel confident in the Colts and Daniel 1185 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 3: Jones and that offense with their run game, Sam Year 1186 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 3: or the Seahawks, Like I think they have a good 1187 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 3: run game with two headed monster Sam Donalds playing such 1188 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 3: a high level in their defense. 1189 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 2: Like we talk about they travel. 1190 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 3: They've been better on the road than they have been 1191 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 3: at home under their new head coach in the regime. 1192 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:38,959 Speaker 3: So who it's stinky, but I'm there, unfortunately, and we'll see. 1193 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm excited toe what my model does with this line. 1194 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 3: If it is Jayden Daniels, but I have just priced 1195 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 3: him so low my model right now, just because he's 1196 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 3: not the same player with the bum knee, and you 1197 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 3: saw it even last night their head coach, I know 1198 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:55,439 Speaker 3: he got. 1199 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 2: Them to the NFC Championship. 1200 01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 3: He feels like an idiot in some ways, Like you 1201 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 3: can't coach the same way with Mariota as you did 1202 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 3: with Daniel Jones, who was eighty percent fourth down. So yeah, 1203 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 3: between the coaching matchup all of it, I just what 1204 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 3: am I. I'm trying to get there in Washington. I 1205 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 3: can't find anything that get me there. They're just everything 1206 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 3: about them seems abysmal, and the Seahawks just seem like 1207 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:17,439 Speaker 3: top four. 1208 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 1: That's the challenge, right is that we're always talking about 1209 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 1: is when do you play the number? When do you 1210 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: play the situation, and when do you play what you 1211 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 1: see on the field. To me, this is sort of 1212 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 1: that classic spot where you're getting the team that just 1213 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 1: got blown out that isn't as good against the team 1214 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: that the public loves, and you're getting the hook and 1215 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,720 Speaker 1: if you get the key to the offense in Jayden 1216 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Daniels back against a good defense, but he can be slippery. 1217 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 1: That's where we run into trouble for not having the 1218 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 1: imagination for the possibility because of the situation and the number. 1219 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'll get there, Brosercai. Right now, I'm all aboard. 1220 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:11,800 Speaker 1: Seattle Arizona Dallas. Dallas is a two and a half 1221 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,920 Speaker 1: point favorite. It's come down from Cowboys minus three. That 1222 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 1: one I don't get. I actually I like I like 1223 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys here. 1224 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 2: I like it really. 1225 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 1: Situationally, I like the Kyler will be starting to. 1226 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 2: Run opposite size this week. 1227 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 1: We aren't a lot of opposite side. 1228 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 2: That's good, though we were agreeing too much. 1229 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 1: I just think it's the right spot for the Cowboys. 1230 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 3: I just you know, in my opinion, I don't think 1231 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,919 Speaker 3: the Cowboys should be favorites or anybody unless they're playing 1232 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 3: some of the worst teams in football. 1233 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 2: Arizona, to me, is not one of the worst teams 1234 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 2: in football. 1235 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 3: If it's Kyler, shockingly, don't mind him coming back in 1236 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 3: this spot. This is the perfect type of defense to 1237 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 3: get right against. They're just abysmal in every way. So yeah, 1238 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 3: you you're probably right if you want to get to 1239 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 3: Mince two and a half. I don't mind that if 1240 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 3: you're going to get Dallas. But if if it's three, 1241 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 3: has to be Arizona, Like, this is not the type 1242 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 3: of game Dallas will be able to blow a team 1243 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 3: out with. I think Arizona be able to be competitive. 1244 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 3: Their offense can move the ball, whether it's Kyler or 1245 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 3: you know, er Set. I have confidence this Arizona offense 1246 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 3: to stay staying, keep it close to this Dallas team. 1247 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 3: But like you said, the Dallas offense the trust of 1248 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 3: their kicker. If it's under three, okay, that's fair enough. 1249 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,120 Speaker 3: They have the best kicker on football. That's a key 1250 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 3: number for type of kicker he is. But yeah, at 1251 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 3: plus three, the value to me is all on Arizona. 1252 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 3: Like the money line plus one thirty as well, that's 1253 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 3: the value I want to be at. 1254 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I play both of these prime time games. I'm 1255 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 1: just playing the number three and a half and two 1256 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 1: and a half. Three and a half and two and 1257 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 1: a half, that's what I'm doing. I'm getting a home 1258 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 1: team at less than a field goal with a great 1259 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:54,480 Speaker 1: offense against a not great defense. And I'm getting the 1260 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 1: home team at more than a field goal with their 1261 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,520 Speaker 1: best player coming back coming off a really bad game 1262 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,760 Speaker 1: in prime time where I know the public's going to 1263 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 1: be against him again on a row favorite. 1264 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, my only pushback would be green Bay lost to 1265 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 3: the green Bay beat this Arizona team. They could have 1266 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,600 Speaker 3: lost to him, They beat him twenty seven to twenty three. 1267 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,560 Speaker 3: It's pretty respectable. 1268 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 1: With Jacoby Brissette, and I think we talked about until 1269 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. 1270 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 2: Kyleer has never lost, you know that, right, He's never 1271 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 2: lost in Dallas. 1272 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray high school college bro Kyler Murray lawrens to 1273 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 1: start running the offense through Trey McBride and not doing 1274 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:37,080 Speaker 1: his little pitter patter, then I don't think this offense 1275 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,080 Speaker 1: can be as effective as it was, and we saw 1276 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 1: the past two weeks. 1277 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to it. 1278 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 3: You cut me off check because you're a cutter offer. 1279 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 3: Lost to the Colts thirty one to twenty seven. Again, 1280 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 3: close game, okay, twenty two to twenty one, Tennessee twenty 1281 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 3: three to twenty Seahawks fifteen to sixteen against this forty 1282 01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 3: nine is team. So every game's close, you're going to 1283 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 3: plus three. That's my whole point here. It's like you're 1284 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 3: feels that you're taking a little bit of a bad 1285 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 3: spot here in Dallas where Dallas could win. 1286 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 2: You will. You will hate yourself at Lands on the two, 1287 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 2: no doubt about it. 1288 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 1: I am not a cutter offer. 1289 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 2: You did. 1290 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 1: All right the games we know we agree on Detroit 1291 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 1: minus eight and a half. Yeah, we're talking about the Chargers. 1292 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,960 Speaker 1: We haven't gotten there yet, but at least we both 1293 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 1: agree on the team we'd want to bet. Uh if 1294 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 1: we get there. Another one like that Indie minus three, 1295 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 1: we want to get there. Houston minus one and a half. 1296 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 1: We both like a lot. But yeah, full disclosure, we 1297 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,439 Speaker 1: both got Houston plus one and a half. 1298 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 3: That's repenning, Like I'm be really betting into it as 1299 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 3: them as a favorite most likely. 1300 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:52,640 Speaker 1: Uh, the Jags minus three one of us loves, one 1301 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 1: of us knows it's right and away from it and 1302 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 1: is afraid to love it. And then Kansas City mightus 1303 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 1: want and a half? We definitely love. But I think 1304 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of games, including these prime time games, 1305 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 1: that we're going to have to revisit on Thursday. I 1306 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 1: want to hear what the shrubs have to say about 1307 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:10,800 Speaker 1: where we're at. I feel like a lot of them 1308 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 1: are going to be with me this week. 1309 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 2: You're very public this week. 1310 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 1: This has been Sharper Square, part of the Volume podcast network. 1311 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday with the Games Versouri 1312 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 1: When your noun plus or survivor bick our head to 1313 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 1: head to head battle brass Ball so much more. Watcher 1314 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: listen on YouTube at sharper Square. 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