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Speaker 1: And now Dan and Tie, Hey, everyone, welcome to our

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Speaker 1: every Sunday show, which is your wonderful, spicy, passionate voicemails

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Speaker 1: on a segment we like to call the reverbs.

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Speaker 2: Oh Dominion, what what? Hey?

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Speaker 4: This is Dylan Colorado.

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Speaker 3: Hey there boys, Jim Chicago. Hey, this is David in Arkansas.

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Speaker 3: Hey dan At, It's Joshua from Little Elm, Texas.

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Speaker 1: We just got done watching the Stanford Organ overtime game.

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Speaker 3: And I don't really have anything.

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Speaker 2: Playing this way. Just wow, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I just watched my Stanford Cardinals come back against Organ.

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Speaker 2: I am so happy.

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Speaker 3: You know, Dan, it's it's top fitting here after that loss.

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Speaker 3: It might be weird, but I'm a little encouraged. I

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Speaker 3: interesting to college football. Stanford Oregon finish was insane.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Dan, you guys had it at the end,

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Speaker 2: just couldn't punch it in. So Stanford's kicker is name

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Speaker 2: jet Toner was PC load letter taken. He's not my sega,

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Speaker 2: He's not your tega, he's our tega, Whiteside.

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Speaker 3: Did you know that JP Daniels and Alvin Ross and

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Speaker 1: Or did you know that JT.

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Speaker 3: Daniels should be getting ready for prom now?

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Speaker 1: Or do you know that JT.

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Speaker 4: Daniels should be a senior in high school?

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Speaker 3: I am just now gotten home from USC versus La Zoo.

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Speaker 3: Friday night games in Los Angeles should be illegal, and

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Speaker 3: I am writing my congress portans face turnover chansaw still awesome.

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Speaker 3: We all might have to eat our words over her

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Speaker 3: edwards because I think he actually had a good game plan.

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Speaker 2: We just beat Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 1: I believe that these guys. I'm so proud of them.

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Speaker 4: You better have four dood a lyrics for you know.

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Speaker 1: Lake Lewis is five hundred yards passive.

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Speaker 2: Johnathan Duhart and Travis Bolgam and Jeremy Cooks.

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Speaker 1: Let down by the transive property of football.

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Speaker 4: Uldamnion just beat Florida State by like five touchdowns?

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Speaker 1: Who so Who's won? And the Hokies lost to a

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Speaker 2: What a weekend today?

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Speaker 3: I learned that Old Dominion has a football team.

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Speaker 4: He is the story of this week fourth game Ian

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Speaker 4: book Are the Fighting Irish?

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Speaker 2: Turning the page on Brandon Wimbush, it turns out an

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Speaker 3: Hello, Kentucky, Welcome to the Top twenty five.

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Speaker 2: After all the ups and downs Tennessee has suffered, it's

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Speaker 1: Reassuring they can still find a boring way to lose

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Speaker 1: the Florida and we went to Rocky Top.

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Speaker 2: Don't know the rest of the words is Purdue the

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Speaker 2: best three loss team in the country. Just got done.

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Speaker 4: Watching little Scott at Croll take on nineteen nine to

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Speaker 4: better tell Jim Harbaugh that it's not really nice to

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Speaker 3: I think it's time we have to start considering that

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Speaker 3: Dwayne Haskins might be the best QB O house State's

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Speaker 1: Then, kay, are you ready to say it with me?

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Speaker 3: Texas is back?

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Speaker 2: Texas is secretly decent.

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Speaker 4: Folks, caistols not firing Slater for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: It is a national travesty that no one in America

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Speaker 1: All right there it was. I love it. I love

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Speaker 1: It is my show today, and I'm gonna get through

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Speaker 2: But man, that that didn't feel right. Yeah it didn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't love one bit of it.

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Speaker 4: Because the my frame all week was if you believed

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Speaker 4: felt like they did almost everything to close that one out.

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Speaker 4: And the miscues, the mismanagement, and I have Stanford has

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Speaker 4: Stanford's the seventh best team in the country, right, And

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Speaker 4: because of all those things, I don't come away from

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Speaker 4: of disappointment knowing that this Oregon team had it right

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Speaker 4: there and thinking about what that could have meant. You know,

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Speaker 4: you look ahead down the schedule that Washington comes to Oddson.

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Speaker 1: Right, correct, I think, so, yeah, goes to Cal next

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just you know, I was really excited about

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Speaker 4: of I don't want to sell all of my stock,

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Speaker 4: but I will say that I'm losing confidence in that bet,

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Speaker 4: in that call, and that claim that this was going

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Speaker 4: you know, have a chance to beat teams like Stanford,

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Speaker 4: but because of the way the schedule set up really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think all of that is correct and fair,

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Speaker 1: but I will counter saying what happened wasn't necessary. Stanford

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Speaker 1: as what Oregon's offense should look like. They smashed Stanford

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Speaker 1: Everything was. Everything was set up nicely for if not

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Speaker 4: And I was like, man, this this Alabama defense, if possible,

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Speaker 4: I'm just I want to appreciate excellence, and so far,

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Speaker 1: You always do see like a color commentator, an analyst, whatever.

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Speaker 4: It's gift, I mean, it's it is absolutely the ability

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Speaker 4: I just I was like, I was, man, those things

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Speaker 1: I don't know how far Old Dominion can fly, but

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Speaker 4: like half a thousand yards of total offense to old Dominion,

439
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Speaker 4: And so for Bobby Wilder and the Monarchs and that

440
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Speaker 4: program which you know what, only in the last like

441
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Speaker 4: forty years was a full FBS member after making the

442
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Speaker 4: jump from the colonial FBS independent all the way to

443
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Speaker 4: be able to get that kind of in state when

444
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Speaker 4: I mean the people around that Virginia b Jerry were

445
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Speaker 4: saying like this might be best win for this school,

446
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Speaker 4: any program, any sport of all time. Just absolutely huge

447
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 4: victory for them. So you that's where like you almost

448
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 4: ventured into college basketball territory, right, I guess it felt

449
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 4: like a two fifteen upset in a little bit, and

450
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Speaker 4: or or maybe even shoutouts of Virginia UNBC. But like

451
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Speaker 4: the good local reference though, this one's gonna sting for

452
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Speaker 4: Virginia Tech. But I do think that it might be

453
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Speaker 4: a punch in the nose that this hockey's team needed.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I'm I'm not going to put any

455
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Speaker 4: any blame or credit on the week off that they

456
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 4: had because of the canceled game with ECU, but you know,

457
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Speaker 4: you were still kind of riding high. And Justin Fouinte

458
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 4: had some comments after the game, just feeling like his

459
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 4: team had lost an edge. And boy, you know this

460
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 4: Virginia Tech team recapturing its edge, recapturing the way it

461
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Speaker 4: played against Florida State.

462
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Speaker 2: Particularly on defense.

463
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Virginia Tech could still win the ACC Coastal Division,

464
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Speaker 4: show up in the ACC Championship game. And for a

465
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Speaker 4: Virginia Tech fan who was looking at this season coming

466
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Speaker 4: into the year, I would say that that was absolutely

467
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Speaker 4: accomplishing or exceeding expectations and goals. But man, there's no

468
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Speaker 4: Virginia Tech fan. No matter how many games this Hokies

469
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Speaker 4: team wins, it's going to be able to get through

470
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Speaker 4: the office without the one od U fan just rubbing

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Speaker 4: it in their faces. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect to be extolling the virtues of Blake

473
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Speaker 1: Larusa on this show, but happy to do so, Happy

474
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Speaker 1: to do so in Virginia tech they'll be alright, and

475
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Speaker 1: long term, I think they'll be all right. But I'm

476
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Speaker 1: glad you brought up the fifteen seed, two seed NCAA

477
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Speaker 1: tournament comparison, because that is the exact thought I had

478
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Speaker 1: watching Oklahoma Army. That team A comes in to play

479
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Speaker 1: way more talented team B, but comes in with a

480
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Speaker 1: very specific game plan that will either succeed or just

481
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Speaker 1: go terribly south. And I'm not going to pretend like

482
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Speaker 1: a lot of you saw this Oklahoma Army game in

483
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Speaker 1: its entirety, because I believe it was a pay per

484
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Speaker 1: view game, which madness didn't know that those types of

485
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Speaker 1: things still existed. But I found a stream of this

486
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Speaker 1: as things got tight online in a far.

487
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Speaker 4: Yes, oh my gosh, thousands of college football fans watching

488
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Speaker 4: twitch to see if Army will pull off the upset

489
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Speaker 4: of Oklahoma. I was like, ah, oh, this antiquated sport

490
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 4: is just barreling into the future and I love it.

491
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Speaker 1: Yeah, watching somebody's living room watch this gameys always wonderful.

492
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Speaker 1: But Army comes out and keeps the ball for like,

493
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Speaker 1: I think the official time was like forty four minutes

494
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Speaker 1: out of the sixty of game time, but it felt

495
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Speaker 1: like they kept the ball for two hours and forty

496
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: five minutes straight in this game. Oklahoma makes a couple

497
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Speaker 1: of mistakes, they score early on to go up pretty comfortably,

498
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Speaker 1: and then Army just eight minute drive, nine minute drive,

499
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Speaker 1: ten minute drive. They claw back into this game ultimately

500
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Speaker 1: when Oklahoma forces them to make plays through the air,

501
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Speaker 1: even after a missed Oklahoma field goal to win this

502
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: game that goes to overtime, the Sooners pull it out,

503
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Speaker 1: but boy Army put themselves in a position through just two, three,

504
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Speaker 1: four five. There was something like thirteen or fourteen of

505
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: nineteen on third downs at one point when Oklahoma had

506
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: faced three three third downs, and so it's it's very

507
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: difficult to say, well, it's a it's a moral win

508
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: when you were that close and had those opportunities. But

509
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Speaker 1: does this say anything to you about how we perceive

510
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma when there probably won't be a Big twelve team

511
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Speaker 1: that can replicate this strategy, especially now that Kansas State

512
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 1: might be trash? Yeah, Kansas State's not Kansas State. Yan

513
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Speaker 1: State has taken a year. They're taking that, you know,

514
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Speaker 1: they're taking a what was it what's it called when

515
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: between high school and college? A gap year they're taking

516
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Speaker 1: a gap year. Let's just this is Kansas State and

517
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Speaker 1: Bill Snyder, who is far from a gap year. Let's

518
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: let's let's call it that.

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Speaker 4: I'm not coming away with a lot in many panic signs.

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00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 4: I still have Oklahoma and my you know, my handful

521
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Speaker 4: of teams that I think is among the best in

522
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Speaker 4: the country.

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Speaker 2: I I think that.

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Speaker 4: This was encouraging for arm I saw Army and the

525
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Speaker 4: you know, the season opener against Duke, and that was

526
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 4: not a great performance for that team. And to see

527
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 4: that and like I came out of that opener on

528
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Speaker 4: that Friday night thinking, oh man, they miss a mod Bradshaw.

529
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Speaker 2: Mod Bradshawn so.

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Speaker 4: Much to that program and he was just the key

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Speaker 4: to everything. And so the fact that Army has sort

532
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 4: of found its footing again this season, and that's really

533
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Speaker 4: what I saw from this Oklahoma game is Okay, what

534
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 4: Jeff Munkin has been able to do within that program

535
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 4: is not just be a one season or a one

536
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Speaker 4: star player type team, but instead one that we are

537
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Speaker 4: going to be counting on to be in the mix

538
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Speaker 4: and one that you know, they what matters to the

539
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Speaker 4: Army football program. They needed to close the gap on

540
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Speaker 4: Navy and this, and I think that within the military

541
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Speaker 4: Academy and the Commander in Chief trophy race, that this

542
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: is more evidence to that idea that Army has started

543
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 4: to close that gap on Navy. I wanted to pitch

544
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Speaker 4: this one at you, Hey, May, we were discussing in

545
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Speaker 4: our workroom. Are you impressed by Kenneth Murray's twenty eight

546
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Speaker 4: tackles or do you just look at it as a

547
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: wild statistic that is indicative of the way the game

548
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Speaker 4: was played.

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Speaker 1: I'm impressed. I mean, it's there's a certain amount of

550
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Speaker 1: resilience and just stamina to be able to stay in

551
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Speaker 1: the game that long and make those plays and not

552
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: have Army rip off an eighty one yard run. That

553
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Speaker 1: there is there is that amount of focus. And I

554
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Speaker 1: get that he was on the field for however many

555
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: crazy numb of plays, and so maybe as a percentage

556
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Speaker 1: of plays on the field, it's not as impressive, But

557
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Speaker 1: that's so many tackles, it's so many. That's so many

558
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: times where you are tesked with bringing a fast bowling

559
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: ball down to the ground efficiently. And I'm not generally

560
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: a huge total numbers person as much as I am

561
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Speaker 1: as a percentage of whatever. But that's that's so impressive

562
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: when and I know the rules are hurting Army a

563
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: little bit with you can't really cut block unless you

564
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: are facing them. You can't do it from the side.

565
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: It's made it harder for option teams. But even with

566
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Speaker 1: all of that, Murray is that's that's a ridiculous number.

567
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Speaker 1: That is a stupid number. So I'm going to say, yes,

568
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Speaker 1: I am impressed just because of the stamina and and

569
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Speaker 1: will that he that he put on display.

570
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we we have to we do a name, we

571
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Speaker 4: name a player of the week whatever, like just all

572
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Speaker 4: the different accolades. And that was the debate was is

573
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Speaker 4: is Kenneth Murray's twenty eight tackles and oppressive statistic worth celebrating?

574
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Speaker 4: And Dan, I'm with you as you got out there

575
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Speaker 4: and you were close enough because I do think that

576
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 4: only about six of them were solo, right, That was

577
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 4: the counter argument.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Like, I don't know, man, you were, you were.

579
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Speaker 4: Out there, you were making the right reads and you

580
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: put your body on or near the ball to bring

581
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Speaker 4: it to the ground.

582
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Speaker 2: I credit you for that.

583
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Speaker 4: I think you should be celebrated for your new Oklahoma

584
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 4: school single season record.

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Speaker 1: How much of life is just showing up and putting

586
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Speaker 1: yourself out there in love. In professional terms everything, yes,

587
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: just show up, show up, try your best. Let's stick

588
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: with that thing because you know who is out there.

589
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: That's a professional segue. The Iowa tight ends. Do you

590
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: know who else wasn't out there? Much of the rest

591
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: of Iowa's offense, that's not actually fully fair. They ran

592
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: the ball relatively well, but in a losing efforts to Wisconsin,

593
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Speaker 1: who eventually, I mean, the game was much closer than

594
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: that final score indicates because of a couple last second

595
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Speaker 1: scores by the Badgers. Wisconsin wins this one twenty eight

596
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: to seventeen on the road in a very difficult Kinnick Stadium.

597
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: Alex Hornybrook has a nice game. Jonathan Taylor is pretty good.

598
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: Wisconsin's offense went long stretches without moving the ball downfield,

599
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Speaker 1: and that's mostly because of Iowa's defense, and Iowa's offense,

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Speaker 1: which has struggled most of this young young year, got

601
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Speaker 1: going a little bit through the air. TJ. Hockinson and

602
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: Noah Fant were the big play guys, but also moving

603
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Speaker 1: the ball on the ground a little bit, and ultimately

604
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: Wisconsin bounces back nicely from the BYU loss. They get

605
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more focused defensively, they start, they filled

606
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: some gaps that they weren't against BYU, and the West

607
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: appears to be especially with what Michigan, Nebraska, what Minnesota

608
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: did against or didn't do against Maryland Wisconsin, and I

609
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: don't think there was a huge doubt, but obviously last

610
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: week was a setback. But in the driver's seat with

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Speaker 1: a I would say, a pretty impressive win on the

612
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Speaker 1: road against Iowa.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, maybe I would have thought that

614
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 4: if Wisconsin had not lost last week to by You

615
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: my my view of this game probably would have been

616
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Speaker 4: a lot more different. But man, they needed a get

617
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: right spot. That terrible, terrible beat on the total here.

618
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Speaker 4: If you, like me, were riding the under, that late

619
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Speaker 4: touchdown was raw awful. I mean, Wisconsin Iowa under is

620
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Speaker 4: a principal play. Before the number was even posted, I

621
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Speaker 4: was like, ah, no, let's go under any thunders.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's do it.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you mentioned that for the for an offense

624
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Speaker 4: that I for an offense that coming into the season

625
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Speaker 4: I thought could be among one of the best and

626
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Speaker 4: more efficient in the entire country. I have been a

627
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: little bit disappointed. Yeah, but you know they they kind

628
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Speaker 4: of caught their rhythm when they needed to hear. And

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Speaker 4: you mentioned the Big Ten West race, the head to

630
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Speaker 4: head advantage against what I look at is absolutely the

631
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Speaker 4: most likely contender to that title. Well, it looks like Wisconsin.

632
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: You know, sunrise sunset, Wisconsin's going to be back in

633
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 4: the Big Ten championship game. The big picture is that

634
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 4: I don't think, even as I think BYU and I

635
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: know we've got BYU Washington coming up in a little bit,

636
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 4: even as BYU continues to have an opportunity to make

637
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Speaker 4: a statement and show just the incredible improvement. I mean,

638
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 4: I do think that Wisconsin, both in the way that

639
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: it's played and the fact that it took an early loss,

640
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 4: has really hurt its.

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00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: Own college football playoff chances.

642
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Speaker 4: But as as again we go back to the conversation

643
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Speaker 4: that opened the show, and when you're looking at the

644
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 4: inner workings of these races, and you know what what

645
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: Paul christ and Jim Leonard are trying to put together

646
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 4: at Wisconsin in terms of building a perennial contender that's

647
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 4: ready to take the next step, being able to go

648
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Speaker 4: in I mean, like Iowa beats teams at night in

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Speaker 4: Kinnick Stadium, and Wisconsin did not get beat And I

650
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: give a big party two thumb up to the Badgers

651
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 4: for being able to close that out in a big

652
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: angry uh just snarling face. Also at the Badgers for

653
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 4: ruining this under. Yes, at the same time.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, but yes, Wisconsin's defense came out really

655
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: strong and prepared in the first quarter and they finished strong,

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Speaker 1: highlighted by that sort of last second, not last second,

657
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Speaker 1: but late interception on the tipped ball. TJ. Edward Scott

658
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: so impressed it from Wisconsin. And you know what, maybe

659
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: they'll lose one in the Big ten. Maybe they'll lose

660
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 1: a couple in the Big ten. But tough to see

661
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Speaker 1: what the West looking like it is right now. That

662
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 1: division going many other ways. But you know what, Iowa,

663
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Speaker 1: really they were good on third downs. Nate Stanley was

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Speaker 1: good through the air. They didn't shoot themselves in the

665
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Speaker 1: foot penalty wise, so they were disciplined. It's just and

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Speaker 1: the fact that they had three turnovers to Wisconsin's. I

667
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Speaker 1: don't think Wisconsin turned the ball over, including that that punt,

668
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Speaker 1: the muffed situation where the foot hits the ball and

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin recovers the fact that they were in this game

670
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Speaker 1: late with that turnover differential is it's credit to how

671
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Speaker 1: disciplined Iowa played, but just not quite enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think i was a good football team. Yeah,

673
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Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 4: Came out I came out of that Iowa Iowa State game.

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Speaker 4: I loved that game. That was a hard hitting kind

676
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Speaker 4: of football game.

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Speaker 2: Is everything I wanted from it was.

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Speaker 4: I think the reverse of last year was last year

679
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 4: the Bonkers forty eight forty five game. So we had

680
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Speaker 4: to bring some like cosmic balance with ten to three

681
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Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen. And that's I came out of that game,

682
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Speaker 4: you know, very impressed and confident with an Iowa team

683
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: that you know, I gotta admit I don't always have

684
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Speaker 4: the best grip on the Hawkeyes, and maybe that's because

685
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 4: they are existing in that you know what, seven eight,

686
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Speaker 4: you know, nine win kind of area.

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Speaker 2: My dentist is a Iowa grad.

688
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Speaker 4: We talk about it, talk about Iowa football every time

689
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Speaker 4: I get my teeth cleaned, and he's he's just a

690
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Speaker 4: very he's got a very calm, even keeled not really

691
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 4: expecting championships, but that you know, once once to win

692
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Speaker 4: the home games and beat one of the big ten

693
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Speaker 4: powers once every year, and that's you know, like they

694
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 4: got the Ohio State win last year and he was

695
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Speaker 4: happy with the team. And that's that seems to be,

696
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Speaker 4: at least through my limited North Carolina based viewpoint, just

697
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 4: sort of where Eyewa football is at.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's just fine. That's great.

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Speaker 1: You've got a dentist with some perspective and I appreciate

700
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: that well, I would hope. So all right, before we

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Speaker 1: go on, I want to mention something. Obviously, you have

702
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704
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Speaker 1: through as many as we possibly can and figure out

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Speaker 1: takeaways and what they mean. It's obviously great to have

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Speaker 1: Chip on, but usually it's me and Tai and we

707
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708
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709
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Speaker 1: there is good news. Phletic is a visual medium, and

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Speaker 1: Saturday Takeaways because it's not there's something nice about seeing

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Speaker 1: show for the sterling personalities. But Max does a great

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Speaker 1: job in not just summarizing the day, but finding those

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Speaker 1: little moments that linger on the fact that Oklahoma Army

718
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Speaker 1: fully convey. So I cannot recommend enough Max Olson doing

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of games to get through, so

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Speaker 1: let's start with let's go through the Big twelve relatively quickly.

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Speaker 1: Kansas State is a mess on both sides of the

751
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: ball right now. To certain extents, offensively, it was it

752
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: was not great. Even with picking Will Greer off a

753
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: couple of times Kansas State just gives the ball back

754
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: way too quickly. West Virginia ultimately looks very but very good.

755
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: They get that big play early from Will Greer to

756
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: Marcus Simms and it's West Virginia. I think the big

757
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: takeaway from this game is West Virginia's defense, which was,

758
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Speaker 1: I'll only speak for myself, a concern of mine before

759
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: the season, given what they lost and the talent level.

760
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: It was a concern. The fact that against an offense

761
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: that hasn't been performing, they kept that foot pressed on

762
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Speaker 1: Kansas State. I've come more and more, I've come away

763
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: more and more impressed from from watching West Virginia.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Tony Gibson's one of those defensive coordinators that all

765
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 4: of us end up just throwing his name out there

766
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 4: like it's gonna meet that the whole team's gonna play. Well,

767
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: it's like, well, you know, Tony Gibson's out there, he's

768
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 4: he's gonna have him ready to go. But right now,

769
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 4: it looks like it looks like this West Virginia defense,

770
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 4: particularly up front, they're salty, they're attacking, and yes, and

771
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 4: you know, how about Bigelow cashing in on all that hype.

772
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: You know, I I am happy.

773
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: For him as a human being for finding another home

774
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 4: and really being able to explode and be dominant in

775
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Speaker 4: a way that it really felt like USC fans were

776
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 4: out on him a big time when he was with

777
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Speaker 4: the Trojans, and so I like those stories. You know,

778
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Speaker 4: I'm all for players being able to transfer and play

779
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 4: where they want to play, and a lot of times

780
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 4: it's for that opportunity that man, sometimes it's just a

781
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 4: bad fit and if a change of scenery can really

782
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: do a lot for a player, So I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: West Virginia.

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Speaker 4: One of the biggest surprises of the season is that

785
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: defense and that defensive front, and I think that the

786
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 4: way the schedule breaks out, we are looking at a

787
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Speaker 4: West Virginia team that will enter November very much in

788
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Speaker 4: the Big twelve title race. Of course, with their backloaded schedule.

789
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Speaker 4: That's where we You know, if you are not a

790
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 4: believer in West Virginia, you're saying, Okay, cool, we'll see

791
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 4: what happens when they face you know, that terrifying conclusion.

792
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: But you know, I think it would not surprise me

793
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 4: right now as we you know, I'm sure we're about

794
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 4: to talk about Texas TCUH.

795
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: Who do you have?

796
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: Who do you have more confidence in? Dan, West Virginia,

797
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 4: Texas or TCU right now?

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Speaker 2: Right now?

799
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Speaker 1: Oh man, it's gonna pain me to say maybe Texas.

800
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Speaker 2: I know I can't do that. I'm gonna say West Virginia.

801
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Speaker 4: Okay, I think I think the quarterback Will Greer, Like

802
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 4: we haven't gotten to see a lot of him all

803
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 4: the time, but if he can stay healthy, then you know,

804
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: because the quarterback room behind him is not not Will Greer.

805
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Speaker 4: It's Will Greer, yes, and it is not winning the

806
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 4: Big Twelve. Those are the two options right now. And

807
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 4: if if Wilgear stays in there and that defense stays salty,

808
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 4: I have more confidence in West Virginia challenging Oklahoma than

809
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 4: I do Texas or TCU right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Big Twelve is the clear best

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Speaker 1: TV show right now in college football. And that's just

812
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: it's just because even if we're going to keep Oklahoma

813
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Speaker 1: atop the Big Twelve in terms of tiers and probably

814
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: alone right now, even with yesterday's game, that second tier

815
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Speaker 1: is the majority of the conference, probably because you have

816
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Speaker 1: West Virginia, Texas, Tech, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas. I couldn't

817
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: really after what Texas Tech did running the ball and

818
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: with defense, I know it's like I'm speaking a different

819
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Speaker 1: language against Oklahoma State. And we'll go right now first

820
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: to Texas TCU. Texas putting together two for them. Let's

821
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Speaker 1: keep it within the context of Texas impressive offensive performances

822
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Speaker 1: against talent to teams in a row. And you know

823
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: you have an emerging star at safety in Caden Searns

824
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: who picks off Sean Robinson twice. And even though the

825
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: running game isn't there for Texas, Sam Ellinger is good

826
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Speaker 1: for two ridiculous throws a game, and yesterday he paired

827
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Speaker 1: those throws with timely third down conversions a couple of

828
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Speaker 1: decent runs. I'm not crazy about Texas offense over the

829
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Speaker 1: course of the season, with the number of big games

830
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: and offenses they're gonna have to keep up with. But

831
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Speaker 1: they can score twenty seven against these teams, and they

832
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Speaker 1: have a defense that can holds like they have a

833
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: defense that should be able to hold most teams to

834
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Speaker 1: under that. So Texas right now, even with that disasters

835
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Speaker 1: start beating USC and TCU, they should win eight games.

836
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Speaker 4: Right Maryland's three and one, that's true, But Maryland, I

837
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 4: love the way that you put that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, no Texas offense.

839
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Speaker 4: Yeah they can score twenty seven, sure, and if that's

840
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: good enough, then they can win a lot of ball.

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Speaker 2: I'm still not a believe in Texas offense.

842
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: That's fine, yeah, and.

843
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 4: Some of that is an over correction. I took a

844
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 4: real bold take coming into the year and I said,

845
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Speaker 4: I think Sam Ellinger has a chance to be the

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Speaker 4: big twelve offensive player.

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00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: The Okay, I don't think he's not won it yet.

848
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: I think he's not there, But I don't think we

849
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: can write him fully off confidence.

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Speaker 4: I think that there are a I think there is

851
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 4: a list that might hit a dozen of players that

852
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 4: have a better chance than him right now. But I

853
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 4: you know, as I get frustrated with someone with the

854
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 4: Texas play calling, the offense makes me angry. Sometimes I

855
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 4: still continue to look at Colin Johnson and little Jordan

856
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 4: Humphrey and wonder why in the world this Texas team

857
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 4: doesn't have an incredible passing game, And I, you know,

858
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 4: I'm I think that that was a great win for Texas.

859
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 4: And now I'm starting to look at Tom Herman and

860
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 4: the the sort of trajectory, we talked. We had Stanford

861
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: Steve on the twenty four to seven Sports College Football

862
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 4: podcast after Texas USC and he said, you know, after

863
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 4: being around the program that week and being around that

864
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: team for that game, he he was like, look, this

865
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Speaker 4: year isn't going to be the year, but there is

866
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 4: enough of a good energy that is proliferating through that

867
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 4: program that the arrow is pointing in the right direction.

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Speaker 4: And so as I take a step back, and as

869
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 4: I realized that there really do need to be steps

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Speaker 4: to be able to have Texas get to a point

871
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 4: where we are confidently looking at the Longhorns as a

872
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 4: team that can get back to where Oklahoma is at

873
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 4: or challenged to be in that first tier.

874
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: Snapping a four game losing.

875
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: Streak to TCU is absolutely one of those building blocks.

876
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: It's like the old was lose big, lose small, when

877
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: small win big. And you know, I don't know where

878
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 4: in the process the Longhorns are, but beating TCU is

879
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 4: a big part of that. Like you know, I I

880
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 4: didn't I don't know where.

881
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: I don't know where I'm at.

882
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 4: With Tom Herman, I saw I was a little bit

883
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 4: disappointed when he was just you know Mock and Drew

884
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: Locke in a bowl game and we were celebrating, you know,

885
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 4: their their six and six season.

886
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a big ball, Yeah, step forward. Yeah, I

887
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: just you know this was this continues to be.

888
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: How about this a great opportunity for the Longhorns to

889
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 4: make strides to where they want to go and I

890
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 4: don't think they're going to reach it this year, but

891
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 4: this was a very impressive win for them.

892
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: Yes, And everybody should be scared because Tom Herman has

893
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: this reputation as this like really great offensive mind because

894
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: of what he accomplished at Ohio State. The offenses that

895
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: Houston weren't great, and I mean Greg Ward was basically

896
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: always on like one and a half limbs. But I

897
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: think everybody should be scared if Tom Herman if and

898
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: when Tom Herman replaces Tim Beck at offensive coordinator and

899
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: similar the way like when Gary Patterson hired Meetcham and Combe,

900
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: where they are a really good offensive coordinator higher away

901
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: from ten and two eleven in one.

902
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And.

903
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: I hope that happens for the sake of entertaining college football.

904
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: I'm not positive it does.

905
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: Texas is weird.

906
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 4: Texas is some weird Yeah, I'm not ready to.

907
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to.

908
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: Let Like if you had told in a vacuum in

909
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: another season, it's like, all right, just these two weeks,

910
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 4: Texas has back to back wins against USC and TCU,

911
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 4: I'd bet all right, fry me up a snickers, let's

912
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 4: go to Red River right now. I am ready to

913
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: see this, and I don't. I'm not feeling that way here.

914
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 4: On Sunday, September twenty third, I still think Oklahoma is

915
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 4: seven to ten points better, and that's even factoring in rivalry, right, yeah, I.

916
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: Think that's fine. Quickly, Baylor beats Kansas, So Kansas still

917
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: two and two and has a chance to win four

918
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: or five maybe if everything breaks correctly, but it's not

919
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: as likely as it looked last week. And Baylor looks

920
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: strong with Charlie Brewer being extremely efficient, and that's I mean,

921
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 1: there's not much more to talk about with that. Iowa

922
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: State doesn't look wonderful but fine in a win over

923
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: Akron at home, and quickly Texas Tech behind what sounds

924
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: like British comedy legend Alan Bowman makes surprisingly just lays

925
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: waste to Oklahoma State through defense and turnovers and a

926
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 1: really good sound defensive game plan under David Gibbs. They

927
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: run the ball with a running back who I think

928
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: was going to leave the program, Seth Collins. I forgot

929
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: is you know catching balls for Texas Tech? Excuse me?

930
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: And all of the sudden Tech is in that I

931
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: think demonstrably so after this win, going to boone Pickens

932
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: and beating Oklahoma State by twenty four, they're in that

933
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: second tier where there are still issues. But can they

934
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: beat TCU? Can they beat West virgin Sure absolutely they can.

935
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

936
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: With this offense. He throws for six hundred last week

937
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: and four hundred this week. Alan Bowman does, and Texas

938
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: Tech is looking at the very least a team everybody

939
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: has to take very seriously in that conference.

940
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: I loved Allan Bowman in Life of Brian Yeah, he

941
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: was really Hey.

942
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 4: Our friend Tom Fernelli had another his bold Big Twelve

943
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 4: take coming into the year was he thinks that Texas

944
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 4: Tech is going to show vast improvements on defense. I

945
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 4: had not really seen that come to fruition. I felt

946
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 4: like we definitely saw it on Saturday. And when you

947
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 4: add the Red Raiders to that crowded middle of the

948
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 4: Big Twelve, it takes a league that is always seeming

949
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 4: to fight for its reputation, and it gives them another

950
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: squad that you can hold up and say, if I

951
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 4: dropped Texas Tech in the ACC, if I dropped Texas

952
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 4: Tech in the Big Tech, and if I drock Texas

953
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 4: Tech in the PAC twelve, if I droped Texas Tech

954
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 4: and the SEC East, you know, I think that they

955
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 4: would be able to hang and that is a good

956
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 4: sign for the health and the strength of the league

957
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: as a whole.

958
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: Yes, let's go to the Big Ten Friday night. Penn

959
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: State needs four full quarters to run away from Illinois,

960
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: but eventually does. Miles Sanders runs for two hundred yards

961
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: and James Franklin should just start telling his team before

962
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: the game that the second half is about to start,

963
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: because that's what the issue right now. Penn State has

964
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: started slowly this season. They pour it on and they

965
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: go to or they play against Ohio State next week.

966
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: I believe that's in Happy Valley is so there's that.

967
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how much time we should actually talk

968
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: about Penn State, Illinois, Ohio State, lais waste to Tulane.

969
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: The only big takeaway is Dwayne Haskins is very very good.

970
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,959
Speaker 1: He is a very good quarterback. And did you see

971
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: the story after that? There have been preliminary discussions. I

972
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: believe this. According to the Athletic there have been leiminary

973
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: discussions about Ryan Day as head coach in waiting.

974
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 4: I have, and it immediately had me checking Wikipedia to

975
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 4: see what age Bob Stoops was if that makes sense,

976
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 4: because that when Bob Stoops retired, it was floated as

977
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 4: a theory that we might see more of that where

978
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 4: coaches say, look, you know made oogle oodles of money,

979
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 4: and you know this is this is really stressful. I'm

980
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 4: in a good place in my career. I'm happy with

981
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 4: what I've accomplished. I'm going to, you know, take on

982
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 4: other challenges now for Bob Stoops. I happen to believe

983
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 4: that those other challenges are shaven a couple of strokes

984
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 4: off his handicap at the country club. And I don't

985
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 4: know what that would be for Urban Meyer. He certainly

986
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 4: seems like one of those people that can't quit football.

987
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 4: But I think he's fifty five years old. Bob Stoops

988
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 4: is fifty eight. If if these preliminary discussions are in place,

989
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 4: and then you know, maybe we really are in the

990
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 4: next three to four years, gonna witness the a changeover

991
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 4: at Ohio State, and you know, will that go smoothly

992
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 4: or will it go sideways? Right, a lot of times

993
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 4: coaching waiting does go sideways. It worked out for Florida State,

994
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 4: but it was not pretty as Bobby Bowden continued to

995
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 4: hold on, And certainly urban Meyer looks like I get

996
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 4: the I read urban Meyer in his defiance, and I

997
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 4: read urban Meyer in his attitudes and his confidence in

998
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 4: himself as someone who might hold on a little bit

999
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 4: too long. So I'm curious to see how that might

1000
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 4: play out. But uh yeah, maybe maybe urban Meyer follows

1001
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 4: in this Bob Stoops trend of stepping away from coaching

1002
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 4: a little bit earlier than where we're normally used to seeing.

1003
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick saban aside, because you always have to say

1004
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: Nick saban aside in these conversations. Twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

1005
00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. College football success on a major level skews

1006
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 1: feels like it's skewing younger and more, not necessarily energetic,

1007
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: because urban Meyer peers have a lot of energy. But

1008
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's James Franklin and Daboswiney or Tom Herman.

1009
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: It's just it's three sixty five, it's twenty four to seven. Hey,

1010
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: listen to the twenty four to seven College Football sports

1011
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: podcast on CBS's Lash twenty four to seven. There is,

1012
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's you know, you have to be

1013
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: constantly dming recruits on Instagram or Twitter and staying on

1014
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: top of you know, the social media edits for players

1015
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: and texting and facetiming, and it's just it feels more

1016
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: than ever that there is a life cycle to coaching

1017
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 1: successful teams on a New Year's six playoff type level.

1018
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: And Urban Meyers had the health issues. I think Bob

1019
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: Stoop's father passed away relatively young, which was one of

1020
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: the reasons for him leaving early. I could see that,

1021
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 1: paired with how these last few weeks have gone for

1022
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Urban Meyer in terms of the public eye.

1023
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: I said it at the time, it sort of feels

1024
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: like the beginning of the end. And maybe that's the case.

1025
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: As Ohio State sees itself as maybe being in potentially

1026
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 1: very good hands with Ryan Day should he take over

1027
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: the program.

1028
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 4: I agree, and you know what an opportunity for Ryan

1029
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 4: Day chip Kelly. Chip Kelly's old quarterback, you know, the

1030
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 4: golden child who's gotten all these you know, he's he he.

1031
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 2: Got tapically his scair trajectory.

1032
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: It sets up for an opportunity like this and one

1033
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 4: Dwayne Haskins note, Yes, they run that fly sweep a lot.

1034
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 4: You know, it makes me think that that passing touchdown number.

1035
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: It's uh yeah, the toss sweep, Yeah you think, yeah.

1036
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like yeah, sure, yeah, that's a that's a

1037
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 4: touchdown pass. I mean it's a shovel pass to a

1038
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 4: brilliantly talented track star, ye who's able to outrun the

1039
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 4: other eleven defenders to the corner. But yeah, but Dwayne

1040
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 4: Haskins is awesome, And uh, this is not an original

1041
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 4: take necessarily.

1042
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: I think I share this with a lot. It might

1043
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: have been mentioned here.

1044
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 4: Dwayne Haskins continues to show that as Urban Meyer's loyalty

1045
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 4: has been something that has bitten him. I wonder if

1046
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 4: you go back and look at last season and wonder

1047
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 4: if his loyalty to j T. Barrett cost Ohio State

1048
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 4: a chance to be in the College Football Playoff.

1049
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: That is my exact feeling that there is just the

1050
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 1: watching j T. Barrett and even last year going against

1051
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: Michigan when Dayne Haskins came in, when Barrett gets dinged up,

1052
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: it was like, oh my god, the potential of just

1053
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: watching a quarterback who's comfortable and in rhythm and you

1054
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: don't need to run all the time. And maybe that

1055
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: was urban Meyer looking at J. T. Barrett saying this

1056
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: is what his strength is, so we're going to take advantage.

1057
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: But the ceiling is higher with what Dwayne Haskins can

1058
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: someday accomplish based on what he's already shown, and that's

1059
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: pretty exciting. As a football fans, it's difficult. It's difficult

1060
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: to root for a team that has it all, but

1061
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm pretty happy to watch Dwayne Haskins and his accuracy

1062
00:56:59,560 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: and poise.

1063
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,479
Speaker 2: What's your early read on Ohio State Penn State.

1064
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: I think I like Ohio State. I don't like Penn

1065
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: State's defense. I don't like their you know, seeming lack

1066
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: of focus at times, and they've just looked a little sloppy.

1067
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: I know it's in Penn State, it's in Happy Valley,

1068
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, there's there's something about Ohio State right now

1069
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: that they're rounding into shape. Even without Nick Bosa, they're

1070
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: just they're too deep everywhere, and I think they I

1071
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 1: think Penn State is just a tick behind where they've

1072
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: been these past couple of years.

1073
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 4: I would agree with that. I've been calling Penn State.

1074
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 4: Isn't Bruce Banner the Hulk? Yes, right, it's not David Banner.

1075
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 4: David Banner's the rapper and producers. Yeah, I've been calling

1076
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 4: them Bruce Banner because it seems like they need to

1077
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 4: get like punched in the face or scared or you know,

1078
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 4: like awoken and then all of a sudden you're like, oh,

1079
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 4: thirty five point fourth quarter, Okay, right, but yeah, I'm

1080
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 4: I'm with you, Eileen, Ohio State here.

1081
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there. The pilot light is needed for Penn

1082
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: State not burning on their own, and that's that's not

1083
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: a sign of a great football team.

1084
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 4: It can be a sign of a very good and

1085
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 4: very talented football team, but not a championship caliber football team.

1086
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: Yes, there was something about this Penn State team these

1087
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: past couple of years that I think was led by

1088
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: their defense, even with the rightful attention being paid to

1089
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: certain offensive players that they are just they're probably too

1090
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: young and too green on defense at this point to

1091
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 1: feel fully confident in them, really threatening for a maybe

1092
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: a new year six, but like the playoffs, seems not

1093
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: necessarily in the cards. But that's okay because they're still

1094
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: fun to watch with with Miles Sanders and Ricky Slade

1095
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: and Trace McSorley. Quickly, because there really isn't that much

1096
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: to talk about. Michigan just smothered Nebraska and this was that's.

1097
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: What they do. That's what they do at the Big House.

1098
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: That's what they talked about the house.

1099
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't It wasn't particularly entertaining to watch because

1100
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: Nebraska is a wounded cat and has nowhere near the

1101
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: talent needed on both sides of the ball to compete with.

1102
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't think Michigan's a great team, but a very

1103
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: very strong and good Michigan team. And everything was fine offensively,

1104
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 1: you know, beyond Karan Higden, who was really really good,

1105
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: and the offensive line seemed pretty good. But Michigan made

1106
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: plays everywhere. Nebraska comes in with Scott Frost saying everybody

1107
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: be patient, and then he also starts his wounded quarterback. Okay,

1108
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: that's that's all I really needed to know about where

1109
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 1: Nebraska's head was that going into the game.

1110
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it feels like Karan Higden. Every time I

1111
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 4: flip over to these Michigan games in the Big House,

1112
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 4: he's always got a thirty yard touchdown run.

1113
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, like.

1114
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 4: He's His breakaway speed is great. That is a credit

1115
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 4: to Karan Higden. Yes, the fact that you know they

1116
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 4: they run. They've got like what fifteen offensive coordinators, Pap Hamilton,

1117
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 4: Jim mcawain, Jim Harbaugh.

1118
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: Yep, like your uncle somebody else.

1119
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 4: But somehow they all get on the same page and

1120
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 4: they they scheme up. They like scheme up something that

1121
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 4: allows Koran Higden to break loose and when he does,

1122
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 4: his breakaway speed is great. He's a fun running back

1123
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 4: to watch. But that that is what Michigan does in

1124
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 4: the big House. I am not going to be looking

1125
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 4: at Michigan as a Big Ten title contender until they

1126
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 4: go on the road and continue that level of performance.

1127
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: Let's stay in the state. Even though the game was

1128
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: outside of the state, Michigan State. I won't go as

1129
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: far as ugly because beating a decent Indiana team on

1130
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: the road is totally fine. They need a pick six

1131
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: and I believe a fake field goal to get to

1132
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: thirty five. The offense still inconsistent, but winning games on

1133
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: the road in the Big Ten against a decent opponent

1134
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: is nothing to look down upon. Michigan State after a

1135
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: week off and a lost to ASU with a pretty

1136
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: decent fourteen point win, Indiana comes back a little bit late.

1137
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: Rutgers gets murdered by Buffalo. Your Buffalo Bulls, I believe

1138
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to see. Yeah, Buffalo Bulls. Anthony Johnson is

1139
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: a very good receiver, and Buffalo might be the favorite

1140
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: in the MAC, which is great.

1141
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lance leepold you know if you were buying into

1142
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 4: this D three National Chiaeampionship winning coach to be able

1143
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 4: to get it done, he's it's taken him a I

1144
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 4: think he's been there maybe.

1145
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 2: Two years, three years. He's he's got it. Buffalo.

1146
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 4: My buddy Barton Simmons was all over that early. He

1147
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 4: was like, Buffalo is going to be a very good team.

1148
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 4: They could be an eight or nine win team and

1149
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 4: threatening the MAC. And so yeah, and in Michigan State,

1150
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 4: their inability to run the ball.

1151
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: Very disappointed.

1152
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: Weird.

1153
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 4: However, Yeah, they have no more Allen brothers or Conklin's left,

1154
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 4: and I guess they need to go back to the

1155
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 4: Alan Conklin machine. I like their wide receiver Cody White.

1156
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 4: He's a sophomore four sport athlete from inside Michigan, and

1157
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 4: I think that he's a really special dude.

1158
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 2: In Michigan.

1159
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 4: State's offense is basically relying on some those wide receivers

1160
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 4: making plays with Brian Lawurki.

1161
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: It's very very very very.

1162
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 4: Very weird, but it is at least something as opposed

1163
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 4: to having to rely only on a defense which to

1164
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 4: this point, in my eyes, has not lived up to

1165
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 4: the Spartan standard were used to.

1166
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: Not fully and Maryland patience goes back to Cassim Hill,

1167
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: who has a nice day and they just run through Minnesota.

1168
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: They finished that one forty two to thirteen. So, as

1169
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, Maryland is three to one and a

1170
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: totally okay, decent team. Whatever, Let's go to the SEC

1171
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: because there was actual excitement and unexpected results in the SEC.

1172
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: We already talked about BAMA Tech's A and m Georgia

1173
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: looks sloppy in the first half. I don't believe the

1174
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: offense gets into the end zone. They score on a

1175
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,919
Speaker 1: blocked punt and I believe a scooped fumble and take

1176
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: advantage of Missouri mistakes in the second half to ultimately

1177
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: win this game, and it got sort of interesting third

1178
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Georgia wins this one by a couple touchdowns.

1179
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is where if you are believing

1180
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 4: in Georgia, the fact that they didn't play all that

1181
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 4: particularly well, particularly on offense, and still managed to find

1182
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 4: ways to get it done on the road. Georgia has

1183
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 4: already played two of its three toughest road games of

1184
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 4: the SEC schedule and won them both. And that's a

1185
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 4: good sign for the Bulldog. They went to South Carolina,

1186
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 4: they went to Missouri, they still have to go to LSU.

1187
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 4: But in terms of winning that division and getting back

1188
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 4: to the SEC championship game, even when they don't have

1189
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 4: their A game, even when they don't really have their

1190
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 4: B game offensively, getting those w's, that's a good sign.

1191
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 4: And if again, if you want to drink up the

1192
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 4: Georgia kool aid, you're saying, I'll tell you what. They

1193
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 4: hit adversity at Missouri and they overcame it.

1194
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 2: Overcoming adversity. So Kirby talks about all the time, fair.

1195
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: Way to describe it or fair way to not describe it?

1196
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: A very misleading score, but ultimately again it's a win.

1197
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: Auburn wins thirty four to three over Arkansas. The Tiger

1198
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:55,479
Speaker 1: offensive line not particularly strong last night, and they need

1199
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: two touchdowns from kick returns to get to thirty four,

1200
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: so they get in the ends. Owned twice on offense

1201
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: against Arkansas. Defense was fantastic herd to engage too much

1202
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: though from playing against this Arkansas offense with high story,

1203
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: but an ugly offensive night for Auburn against Arkansas.

1204
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 4: Two straight and maybe even three straight if you want

1205
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 4: to take it back to Washington. I've yet to be

1206
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 4: really impressed with Auburn's offense. Yeah, I think they're a

1207
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 4: little pedestrian at a lot of levels. Wide receivers. Wide

1208
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 4: receivers are okay, they're fine. I really like Whitlow and

1209
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 4: they're freshman running back, but I mean he's only a

1210
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 4: freshman and still trying to run behind an offensive line that,

1211
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 4: as you mentioned, you know they play, had to replace

1212
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 4: a lot of starters and it showed. So Jarrett Stidham

1213
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 4: is an elite talent who doesn't seem to have enough

1214
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 4: pieces around him for Auburn's offense to scare anyone right

1215
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 4: now in the SEC.

1216
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: Not a misleading score. Kentucky twenty eight Mississippi State seven.

1217
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: Talk to Andy Staples going into this game, and he

1218
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: was extremely high on Kentucky, not necessarily in this matchup,

1219
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: but extremely high in Kentucky being competitive in this game,

1220
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: if not winning this game. And they leave no doubt

1221
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: Benny Snell in defense is you know, that's like the

1222
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: wedding crashers thing. That's what Kentucky is, and that's a

1223
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: great thing to be because Benny Snell leads the way,

1224
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: keeps the offense on the field, keeps the Mississippi State

1225
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: defense guessed. And I believe it was Josh Allen who

1226
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: was all over the place for Kentucky against the Mississippi

1227
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: State offense, which, for better or worse, is going to

1228
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: be pretty one dimensional because of Nick Fitzgerald's limitations as

1229
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: a passer.

1230
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes when you're playing cards with a bunch of friends,

1231
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 4: whoever is the dealer gets to set the rules. If

1232
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 4: you let Kentucky set the rules of the game, they're

1233
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 4: gonna beat you. Yes, So that's like my number one

1234
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 4: thing with Kentucky is do not play their game. Do

1235
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 4: you have to be able to get some offense early?

1236
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 4: You need to be able to make Kentucky press because

1237
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 4: their defense is very, very strong, very very good. You

1238
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 4: mentioned Benny Snell, like, if you get lulled in to

1239
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 4: the game that Kentucky wants to play, Kentucky's gonna throw

1240
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 4: down that like wild card that you didn't know was

1241
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 4: because they read the rules too fast right when they

1242
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 4: started to yeah we got aces deuced, Jack says, and

1243
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 4: then the one at ween You're like, what, I didn't

1244
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 4: even know? But so, yeah, I look at Kentucky as

1245
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 4: a team, not that will uh. I don't look at

1246
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 4: Kentucky as all right watch out, you know, but credit

1247
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 4: to Mark Stoop's, credit to that program.

1248
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 2: It was an unbelievable environment there. Four to zero.

1249
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 4: They're about to be ranked for the first time since

1250
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 4: two thousand and seven. Shout out Andre Woodson and U

1251
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 4: and yeah, just if you play their game then you

1252
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 4: risk losing.

1253
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: And not that they needed much help, but hey, thanks

1254
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. Sixteen penalties for one hundred and thirty nine yards.

1255
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: There needs to be a thank you note in the

1256
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: mail already for that. So whoops, can't can't do that

1257
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: against the team. As you mentioned, that is particularly fine

1258
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: with dictating the style of play South Carolina consistently pretty

1259
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: good against Bandy. I will admit I did not see

1260
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: this game, so I'm looking forward to watching this. So

1261
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: maybe I'm totally wrong. I don't know if you saw

1262
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: any of this game, but it appears to be a

1263
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: solid win over a Vandy team that's at least okay.

1264
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I might look at that as a letdowns.

1265
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 4: I haven't don't get to watch it either. I might

1266
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 4: look at that as a letdown spot for Fandy after

1267
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 4: the close lost in Notre Dame. We'll see take a table,

1268
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 4: tell the tale.

1269
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: A game I will not be watching because I know

1270
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: why it happened like it did. Tennessee is not very good.

1271
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 2: Florida is.

1272
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: They're fine. Probably they're not particularly good by their standards,

1273
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: but six turnovers is going to lead to a comfortable win.

1274
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: And that's what happened.

1275
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 4: The fact that I don't know what assistant it was,

1276
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 4: but the fact that the Tennessee assistant who is writing

1277
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 4: on the whiteboard, Jeremy Prewett, kicks the whiteboard and then

1278
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 4: he continues to write after the whiteboard has been kicked.

1279
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 2: That is perseverance.

1280
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 4: That is perseverance, that Tennessee needs to take notes from

1281
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 4: and Wes Rucker from twenty four to seven Sports has

1282
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 4: been a pal to me over the years in terms

1283
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 4: of getting insights on Tennessee. He wrote a column and

1284
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 4: it was like you gotta It was a message to

1285
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 4: Tennessee fans. If this is going to get better, it's

1286
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 4: going to be really bad. I mean the Tennessee had

1287
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 4: a player leave in the middle of the game.

1288
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: Yesvante Davis didn't want to go on the field and

1289
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: so bro It kicked him out.

1290
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, is there is Uh, this is

1291
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 4: going to be a long climb back to where they

1292
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 4: want to be.

1293
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: Yes. We mentioned ODU in Virginia Tech as we moved

1294
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 1: to the ACC quickly. Miami. The big story there is

1295
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: Nicosi Perry comes in, i think on the third drive

1296
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: of the game and looks very good for the duration

1297
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Speaker 1: of this game. We'll talk about Miami at another time

1298
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: on this show. When they had a bigger opponent than FIU,

1299
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: we didn't mention Perdue looking very good against a BC

1300
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: team that came in with a lot of momentum, and

1301
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: they very much did. Good win for Purdue. I believe

1302
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: this is their first win of the season, and you

1303
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: know what, that's fine. David Blow looks very good. Ronde

1304
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: al Moore another ridiculous game after You should look up

1305
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 1: this catch and run and tackle breaking fun if you

1306
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet. North Carolina their first win against

1307
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: pitt I did not see this game. I don't think

1308
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: we can and anytime talking about it, I will watch

1309
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: some extended highlights later on Virginia very much real just

1310
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: and Louisville very much wolf. Don't know how much of

1311
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,879
Speaker 1: this game you watched, but they have. I mean, Virginia

1312
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: has a quarterback. Virginia has some skill talent. It's really

1313
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: fun to say. And you can tell me if I

1314
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: get this right or wrong. Alami days a kias the

1315
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: chas I think.

1316
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 4: I don't think the emphasis is on la Ola me

1317
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 4: Day Okay, yeah, he doesn't have a human game.

1318
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: But Virginia very quietly three and one as they sort

1319
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: of enter their the rest of their ACC slate.

1320
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 4: Zakiyas is one of the best yards after catch guys

1321
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 4: in the SEC. He's very, very, very talented. In Louisville,

1322
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 4: it their fall to literally like they might be one

1323
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 4: of the worst teams in the ACC. North Carolina don't

1324
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 4: take too much away from that. For whatever reason, Fedora

1325
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 4: has Nordizy's number, beat him every single year.

1326
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair, Florida State beats an FBS team which listen,

1327
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: small victories, small victories. Florida State, it's thirty seven to

1328
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: do something. They were allowed to tweet do something to

1329
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 1: this one. Thank goodness they were finally, But yeah, Florida State,

1330
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: it's probably still going to be a long year, mostly

1331
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: because of that. Just mash unit of an offensive line,

1332
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: but beat a team that you definitely should beat. And

1333
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: that's the thing, because now they're on a one week

1334
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: streak of doing so. Syracuse lays waste to Yukon, NC

1335
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 1: State against I think a feistier Marshall team. Then people

1336
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: realize they win that by double digits, and Duke looks

1337
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: like a divisional favorite at this point, especially because they're

1338
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: performing without their starting quarterback. They do it in a

1339
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: pretty complete way, if not kind of surprising way because

1340
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: a lot of it comes on the ground as they

1341
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: beat I mean it's North Carolina Central. I don't know

1342
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: how much there is to take away from that. And

1343
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: then finally as we go to the I guess we

1344
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: have the Pac twelve left. USC edges out Washington State

1345
01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: on Friday night by three port gust and back after

1346
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: targeting the previous game and then immediately he's not called

1347
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: for targeting, but boy does does he love putting a

1348
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: hat on a helmet on a helmet A really nice

1349
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: day for a really nice night. Excuse me for JT. Daniels.

1350
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: He's getting more receivers involved. The offense as a whole

1351
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: looks good. The pass defense had looked pretty good, and

1352
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: Gardner minshew, I believe the second tore up USC a

1353
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 1: little bit and put them in position to win before

1354
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: I believe USC blocks a Cougar field goal that would

1355
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: have tied it late, So a nice bounce back after

1356
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: losing a couple straight. USC able to get up on

1357
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: Washington State and in a revenge spot we talked about

1358
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: Stanford Oregon. I don't know if you stayed up late

1359
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: for Washington, ASU, but this this Washington team is going

1360
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: to be It's going to be hell for Washington fans

1361
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: over the course of this year because they have that,

1362
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, top level, top four potential because of the

1363
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: defense and good Jake Browning and bad Jake Browning and

1364
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: some defensive miscues gives you teams that shouldn't be in

1365
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: games against Washington making it games late.

1366
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 4: Washington's my favorite under team in the country right now. Yeah,

1367
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 4: And it's like the defense and Jake Browning make it

1368
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 4: a great team to bet the under for because Jake

1369
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 4: Browning's limitations as a quarterback absolutely come into play, and

1370
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:28,520
Speaker 4: the defense, like you mentioned, is playoff caliber. But I've

1371
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 4: been floating this theory around and with your intimate knowledge

1372
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 4: of the Pac twelve, I would like to throw it

1373
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 4: at you. Sure, is it worth considering Jonathan Smith's impact

1374
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 4: on Washington and what they might have lost when he

1375
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 4: goes to take the head coaching job at Oregon State.

1376
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, because part of this, part of

1377
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: the struggles of Washington's offense have been situational, have been

1378
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: play calling, have been figuring out how to best position

1379
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 1: Jake Browning. We saw Chris Peterson sort of apologize for

1380
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: this last week after their uneven win against they had

1381
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 1: Utah last week. I believe that they need to figure

1382
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: out better ways to put Jake Browning into advantageous situations.

1383
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 1: And I think that it has to stem from, especially

1384
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: with what Jonathan Smith has done early on for Oregon State,

1385
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: which hasn't been much on the scoreboard and tangible results.

1386
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,839
Speaker 1: But they're competitive, this Oregon State team, which they haven't

1387
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: and they weren't these past couple of years. And I

1388
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: think that's definitely something worth considering that Washington, even with

1389
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith last year, they lost something dumb against ASU

1390
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: and the Stanford win Stanford loss was definitely a winnable

1391
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: spot for them. I think that's definitely worth considering.

1392
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 2: But in general, this this Arizona's State team, you know,

1393
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 2: two straight losses, and they've come back to earth to

1394
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 2: where probably Arizona State was expected to be, which is

1395
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 2: maybe about a six and six, seven and five team

1396
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 2: at the end of the year.

1397
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: Sure, but you know what they're I'm sort of encouraged

1398
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: by the fact that, and yes, they should beat San

1399
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: Diego State, and it was a weird ending to that

1400
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: game to lose to Washington, even after beating them last year,

1401
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 1: and to not look particularly good and be in this game.

1402
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm not a big moral victory person, I don't think,

1403
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: but it's something because this Washington team is much more

1404
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: talented than this Arizona State team and should beat them

1405
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 1: by ten five to spread with seventeen, so at least

1406
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: the perception of this Washington team was pretty far out

1407
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: ahead of Arizona State. And as you just, I don't

1408
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: know if it's the coaching again, I just sort of

1409
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: watched highlights of this game. I'll go back and watch

1410
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: it more fully soon. It's at least they're feisty. At

1411
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 1: least there's some sort of buying in belief with things.

1412
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: With an unusual situation, I would say.

1413
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Arizona State's, you know, the identity that you're going

1414
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 4: to be very very aggressive defensively and you've got a

1415
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 4: quarterback and a wide receiver who are among the best

1416
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 4: quarterback wide receiver TEANNDEM in the conference. Like that, That's

1417
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 4: an identity and that was what Arizona State is and

1418
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 4: I can rock with that.

1419
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 1: I want to pre apologize for confusing Nikhil Harry with

1420
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,480
Speaker 1: Nikosi Perry. That is going to happen. It is a reality,

1421
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: and it reflects poorly on me and my ability to

1422
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: cleanly remember things. So I'm just getting that out ahead

1423
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 1: now that it appears me as a new starting quarterback.

1424
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 1: And finally, Arizona excuse me with a nice comfortable win

1425
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: over the course of the game. Khalil Tate has a

1426
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: nice day. He's not running. I think he's been a

1427
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: little bit beat up, but he throws the ball fine

1428
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: against Oregon State. And the big thing is JJ Taylor

1429
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 1: leads the way. He's one of my more just individually

1430
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: fun players to watch because he looks like he's about

1431
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: five to two and eighty five pounds and just runs

1432
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 1: past people when he's healthy.

1433
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 2: How how tall was Kadem Carry? Wasn't he short?

1434
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 1: No? I think he was actually I think he was

1435
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: like sixty one. I think he was actually tall.

1436
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 4: I like, I like any Arizona running back that can

1437
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 4: just explode through the hole and all the.

1438
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah dash down field.

1439
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw it with Nick Wilson recently as well, Nick,

1440
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe he was the smaller guy. So that

1441
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: is your Those are the Power five games that are

1442
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 1: at least worth mentioning. But this week belongs to old Dominion.

1443
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, Oh do you and the Monarchs run

1444
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: everything this week? SMU with a nice last second win.

1445
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: Always like seeing somebody go for two in overtime to

1446
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,679
Speaker 1: just flat out win it. So the Mustangs get their

1447
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: first win of the season, a nice win over Navy

1448
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 1: Toledo in a bit of a shootout over Nevada. Nevada, Nevada.

1449
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: Somebody hates something. Cincinnati comes back against Ohio. They fall

1450
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: down twenty four to seven, but they come back and

1451
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 1: win that game and move to four and oh very quietly,

1452
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: including that a win over Ohio and a win over

1453
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: UCLA with where since he has been these past couple

1454
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 1: of years, I'd say pretty impressive. Beyond that Colorado State

1455
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 1: Wolf Colorado. He loses to Illinois State, an FCS team

1456
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: app State, which I have no idea where Boone is

1457
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 1: as compared to Raley and how far away you are.

1458
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 2: But app State for three hours three.

1459
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: Hours, okay, app State very quietly because of I mean

1460
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: not super quietly, because how they looked against Penn State.

1461
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: But Zach Thomas has looked excellent. They've run the ball

1462
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: super well. They've got two good running backs. I mean,

1463
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: they demolish a Gardner Web team that nobody's expecting anything from.

1464
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: But app State is at least if you're a sun

1465
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,480
Speaker 1: Belt fan right now, they look they look dangerous.

1466
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 4: So there's that a class at the sun Belt. They

1467
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 4: like they are the class of the sun Belt. And

1468
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 4: that's that Scott Sanderfield's a dude, that is a that

1469
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 4: is a that is a coach. Who I uh, I'm

1470
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 4: I'm betting. I'm betting that we're going to see him

1471
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 4: at a Power five job at some point in the

1472
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 4: next five years.

1473
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: I would. I think that's fair to say Houston big

1474
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: over Texas Southern North Texas big, another quiet foreign OH team,

1475
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: and that includes a win over Arkansas, which whatever, fine,

1476
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: it's still an SEC team. There's nothing to hold your

1477
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: head about. Memphis in a bit of a shootout, another

1478
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 1: nice game for their offense and setting up a really

1479
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: nice game I want to say in three weeks against

1480
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 1: UCF who wins big eventually over fau Utah State, a

1481
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 1: Mountain West team that's quietly making a little bit of noise.

1482
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: After being very competitive against Michigan State. San Diego State

1483
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: pulls it out against a sneaky, tough Eastern Michigan team,

1484
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: and Hawaii and Cole McDonald are now four and one

1485
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: and McDonald goes for I want to say, he has

1486
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: five touchdowns in this game. So there's a lot of

1487
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: fun to be had, and just to bring things full circle,

1488
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: you don't need to freak out over a random riter's

1489
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: top four in late September. Watch college football. Don't get

1490
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: a TV show because then you get Hawaiian Cole McDonald.

1491
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: The Mountain West is having a much needed resurgent year.

1492
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: I thought the Mountain West was a little bit bad

1493
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: last season, maybe even the season before. And again I

1494
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 1: judge conferences by the middle and if you can give

1495
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 1: me a solid core, a solid core really the key

1496
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: to everything.

1497
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 2: Yes, if you can give me a.

1498
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 4: Solid core, then then I'm I'm gonna believe that. That

1499
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 4: is a conference with tuning into and whai with Cole McDonald,

1500
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 4: bring the runn shoot back, Utah State what you mentioned

1501
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 4: has you know, finally come back and really starting to

1502
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 4: look good again. Yeah, Mountain West is fun. That is

1503
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 4: absolutely I League worth investing in this year.

1504
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: And real quick before we finish and talk about our dudes.

1505
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 1: I did neglect to do a dramatic reading of a

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Speaker 1: drive chart. And damn it if Mississippi State didn't make

1507
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: this one difficult. But I'm gonna go with the Bulldogs

1508
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: here because punts, punts, Hey, touchdown punts, punts, halftime punts,

1509
01:19:49,640 --> 01:20:00,759
Speaker 1: punt punts, interception downs punts. Thank you, Mississippi State. Klanga Klanger.

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01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: Maybe next week, maybe next week, and real quick, if

1511
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: we didn't mention any of these dudes, I would like

1512
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: to point them out real quick. British comedy legend Alan

1513
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 1: Bowman at Texas Tech, Miles Sanders ian Book. We didn't

1514
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: mention Notre Dame beating Wake decisively, and Tie even sent

1515
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: me he watched this game, I think on his phone

1516
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: he sent me an ian Book manifesto, which, thanks Ty,

1517
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 1: I'll put some more Devorik Allen for that too. His

1518
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:33,759
Speaker 1: ian Book manifesto is. The headlines will be all about

1519
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: ian Book's great performance against Wake, and rightfully so. Clearly

1520
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 1: he was able to lead the offense in a way

1521
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: that utilized all the parts, and he should absolutely be

1522
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: the starter from here on out. That said, there are

1523
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: three other things we need to keep in mind. Brian

1524
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 1: Kelly didn't screw up a quarterback controversy. I don't know

1525
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: why I'm doing this in a bad British accent. Maybe

1526
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: the yoga classes are working. Maybe he learned from the Zayeira,

1527
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 1: Maybe he learned from watching Nick Saban in the National Championship.

1528
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: This so much here too. This really sucks for Brandon Wimbush.

1529
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 1: He could have transferred anywhere in the country two years ago,

1530
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 1: when the Irish seemingly had two stud quarterbacks instead, he

1531
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: stuck with it and eventually got the job. I hope

1532
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 1: we still see him as part of the offense. Long

1533
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: Live the Strange, Ian Book, third and short packages. Can

1534
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: we somehow bury this in a time capsule? I don't

1535
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 1: ever want to forget the odd situational games that Brian

1536
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: Kelly played before coming to his senses. So there is

1537
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 1: Tye from the Great not being on the show today.

1538
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 1: So Ian Book, he's a dude, justin Herbert to Dylan Mitchell,

1539
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 1: ben Burke, Curven was all over the place for Washington,

1540
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: David Long for the West Virginia Defense. Gerald Willis was

1541
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,799
Speaker 1: particularly he was interrupting FIU all the time from Miami,

1542
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen at Kentucky, Caden Stearns for Texas Army, just

1543
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 1: in the amount of time they spent on the field,

1544
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,759
Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray for Oklahoma making the plays on said field,

1545
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: all of old Dominion, and as we mentioned at the end,

1546
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 1: JJ Taylor, this is been an extremely long show in

1547
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: an extreme pleasure on my end. Thank you very much,

1548
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:11,440
Speaker 1: Chip Mackenzie Milton six touchdowns. Yes, that game. I believe

1549
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: it's like October thirteenth, UCF Memphis.

1550
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 2: It's much Yeah, I mean I like it.

1551
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: There is nothing. Yeah, especially coming off of last year

1552
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,879
Speaker 1: and UCF has well. I have the North Carolina game canceled,

1553
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: but Pitt SMU, Memphis, ECU, Temple, Navy, Cincinnati, USF. Maybe

1554
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: outside of that last week they're going to Tampa to

1555
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 1: play USF. There's nothing obvious loss wise on this schedule.

1556
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 1: There's nothing glaring for the nights, which you're.

1557
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 2: Right, you were.

1558
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Mackenzie Milton is probably a top eight to

1559
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: ten quarterback in the country.

1560
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, this is that's a good.

1561
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: Point monitor this situation. Thank you everybody for listening to

1562
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: the show. I apologize that it ran long, but it

1563
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: was an exciting, fun week. And you know what, spending

1564
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: a long time talking about college football, or listening to

1565
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: two idiots like ourselves talking about college football, it's not

1566
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world. Soliverble at gmail dot com,

1567
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:15,000
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1568
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,919
Speaker 1: We're releasing new shirts this week. Thank you everybody for listening.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you soon. Peace,