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Speaker 2: Bootleg Keev Show a special guest here be a superstar beer.
Speaker 1: Welcome, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: I just want to start the interview off because we
Speaker 2: just had this hypothetical situation where I was asking my
Speaker 2: boy because Millies came in and he has a pretty
Speaker 2: strong Boston accent for the most part, right, and can
Speaker 2: you kind of like break down to me like, well, one,
Speaker 2: you don't have like a crazy Boston accent, but like,
Speaker 2: do you have friends that are like women that have
Speaker 2: a hard time like finding good men because they sound
Speaker 2: like like, oh yeah, fucking Tom fucking Brady, they smoked cigarettes.
Speaker 2: Like I just I just to feel like if I
Speaker 2: grew up in Boston and a girl talk like, you know,
Speaker 2: millies are like slain, you know, I'd yeah, like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, come here, honey, go get the fucking com
Speaker 2: a little fucking drunk over here. Like I just feel
Speaker 2: like it'd be like a turnoffs, Like do you have
Speaker 2: friends that run into that.
Speaker 1: I don't have any friends that talk like that, but
Speaker 1: it's just like some of my friends moms okay, or
Speaker 1: like God bless their husbands. Maybe even sometimes my mom
Speaker 1: sounds like that's it's like an older like I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, white Boston woman thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the CA, the Bay, the stop, like fi,
Speaker 2: let's go five like that. Yeah. Fucking Tom Brady. I
Speaker 2: love him. He's a buck, but I fucking love him still.
Speaker 1: I love it. It's his own thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Do you still do you find yourself
Speaker 2: still rooting for Tom while he's retired now? But were
Speaker 2: you rooting for Tom when he was over in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, like, I wouldn't say like rooting for him,
Speaker 1: but like, I definitely think he has like a warm
Speaker 1: place and every Bostonian or Massachusetts person's heart. Guys he should, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because all he's done for the Patriots.
Speaker 2: I think about that scene in Ted too where Ted
Speaker 2: like sneaks into his house to steal his com yes,
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, I'm sure a lot of
Speaker 2: people in Boston.
Speaker 1: Would have done so weird.
Speaker 2: Great movie by the great Boston.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ted is an amazing movie.
Speaker 2: They're doing a TV show, have you heard?
Speaker 1: No? I didn't hear that, like a whole series, no way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope I could be in it, shout out to
Speaker 1: Ted and like color me.
Speaker 2: Well, I want to say congrats because you have like
Speaker 2: turned into like a bona fide superstar.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: And you've had like a really long journey in this
Speaker 2: music industry. You've been through deals where you know, certain
Speaker 2: people didn't get it, and you've just kind of just
Speaker 2: transformed into like, uh, one of the you know, artists
Speaker 2: on the forefront of this rap shit. So congratulations.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you a lot. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Have you noticed like besides you know, obviously you're doing
Speaker 2: a lot of shows, You're doing a lot of festivals.
Speaker 2: That's you're doing clubs, You're in Vegas, you got you
Speaker 2: have Vegas residency right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have. I have one with dres right now.
Speaker 1: Before Drace, we did Jewel and Akassan so Tau group.
Speaker 2: Nah. But like, have you noticed, like for you, was
Speaker 2: there anything that changed in terms of like where you
Speaker 2: started to kind of see like things finally really like
Speaker 2: work out in a big way. Look were you in
Speaker 2: terms of like were you like doing anything differently or
Speaker 2: was it just like finally the kind of the stars
Speaker 2: like aligned, you know.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of both. I think
Speaker 1: when every every time you see like an artist have
Speaker 1: a moment, I think there's like a wonderful team behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, like that's helping them be great. And I
Speaker 1: also think that the stars are aligning. And what I've
Speaker 1: learned through those moments is just to like be way
Speaker 1: more confident with whatever it is I'm doing and just
Speaker 1: be sure of it before I press go, because then
Speaker 1: it's like it's.
Speaker 2: Fool proof for sure, do you Because I feel like
Speaker 2: there was like a moment where you had gotten off
Speaker 2: of RCA because you were on RCA.
Speaker 1: For a while, yeah, like four and a half years.
Speaker 2: Maybe, and then the Russ record happened, yes, and then
Speaker 2: I feel like after that it was just over.
Speaker 1: After that has been kind of busy because we well,
Speaker 1: actually it was crazy because the Best on Earth happened
Speaker 1: and then the pandemic hit, so we weren't really like
Speaker 1: able to work Best on Earth like in the clubs
Speaker 1: when it first came out. We didn't even end up
Speaker 1: performing it together till a year later, so that changes things.
Speaker 1: I think as well. There's a lot of songs that
Speaker 1: I think would have hit like in a different way
Speaker 1: had we been able to be outside and has had
Speaker 1: the stars in the line at that time. But either way,
Speaker 1: I'm super grateful for how it all turned out because
Speaker 1: I'm just like so blown away, like your plans are
Speaker 1: never going to be as good as God's plans for real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like I was just like thinking, like, damn,
Speaker 2: you got a record with Nikki and a record with
Speaker 2: j Cole like to the greatest of all time?
Speaker 1: Crazy, right, Yeah, Like do you ever like look.
Speaker 2: Back and just think like damn, the last two and
Speaker 2: a half years have been like this is kind of surreal,
Speaker 2: Like I gotta kind of do you appreciate it?
Speaker 1: Yes? Absolutely? Oh my goodness. Like everybody that knows me
Speaker 1: knows like I'm heavy on prayer, Like I talked to
Speaker 1: God like a million times a day, and I'm just
Speaker 1: super grateful. Like I'm one of those people that I
Speaker 1: I've seen so many moments like come and go for me,
Speaker 1: So now I'm learning to just be like way more
Speaker 1: present in those moments and appreciate them for what they
Speaker 1: are and not like I seek no expectations when I
Speaker 1: put music out. I just be like, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put this out, and whatever happens happens, and it's
Speaker 1: always some amazing stuff that happens, and so I'm always
Speaker 1: like it shocks me.
Speaker 2: Right, tell me the story on how because you've told
Speaker 2: it before. But like, the London record is one of
Speaker 2: my favorite joints you put out. You did a great
Speaker 2: job on that record, thank you. Yeah, it was. I've
Speaker 2: played the funk at it on the radio. But how
Speaker 2: does Cold end up on that particular song where you're
Speaker 2: doing the whole London thing.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because we went to the studio to go
Speaker 1: meet Cole for a whole completely different song, and before
Speaker 1: we were on our way out, I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: can I play you something? Like, you know, I'm working
Speaker 1: on my project. I want to play this song. And
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, go ahead, press play. And he loved
Speaker 1: the song. He's like, I love the song. This is good.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, okay, you know what that's like.
Speaker 1: He just seemed like he really liked the song, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to send it to him like some random day.
Speaker 1: So like two weeks later, I think a month later,
Speaker 1: I said it to him and I was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: just send you this if you want to listen to it, if.
Speaker 3: You want to check it out, since you said you
Speaker 3: liked it in your car at the gym, like whatever
Speaker 3: you want, and yeah, it just ended up working out
Speaker 3: like that, Like he ended up liking the song enough
Speaker 3: that he wanted to put a verse on it, and
Speaker 3: I was so happy about that because.
Speaker 1: Like, look at that verse. It's like one of my
Speaker 1: favorite verses of all time.
Speaker 2: Oh he killed it. He got off on how.
Speaker 1: Can I just have seen this one and that one
Speaker 1: and I can have both?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he got all. He did not give
Speaker 2: you the throw away coverse. I know what he has
Speaker 2: by the way. I feel like every time he gets
Speaker 2: on some shit he bodies it.
Speaker 1: He does, and I honestly wanted to. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go because when I first cut the record London,
Speaker 1: it was like a vibee fun record Like Me and Disease,
Speaker 1: we just have fun, Like if you know us, we
Speaker 1: go to the studio and we just try to have
Speaker 1: a good time. So we weren't, oh, we don't really
Speaker 1: try to overthink anything or try to make a hit
Speaker 1: or try to make a certain type of record. We
Speaker 1: just catch a vibe. So I wasn't overthinking or like
Speaker 1: pushing my pen to the to the bars, like expecting
Speaker 1: to get Jake Cole on that song. So when he
Speaker 1: put his verse on it, I'm like, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: redo my verse. They're like He's like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't. They told me not to. They would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of like ating.
Speaker 1: But like I was like, bro, who thinks when they
Speaker 1: cut like a random reference that Cole is going to
Speaker 1: be on that song? Yeah? Crazy.
Speaker 2: I think that's against like unset rap roles too. If
Speaker 2: you send a record in with your verse and then
Speaker 2: it comes out and your verse is way.
Speaker 1: Different, it's fine.
Speaker 2: I think that. I think that might have been the
Speaker 2: root of the whole like cannabis ll thing back.
Speaker 1: But I didn't do it because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: change the essence and the energy because you know, some
Speaker 1: songs they got that a certain like energy to him.
Speaker 2: Did like anybody in London like feel like you were
Speaker 2: appropriating their accent.
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody said that to me.
Speaker 2: But I just wonder because everyone's so sensitive these days,
Speaker 2: and like you know, I was shout to England, the colonizers,
Speaker 2: of all colonizers, I just wonder if they had like yo, yo,
Speaker 2: what like you're taking our you know?
Speaker 1: I mean, I got so much love in London such
Speaker 1: a great record. Like I love London so much, and
Speaker 1: it became like my second, like I want to say,
Speaker 1: like my second or third home, because I was traveling
Speaker 1: in London so often around that time. So when we
Speaker 1: when it came time that I did London, I was
Speaker 1: just so inspired by the culture. Yeah, so I was
Speaker 1: just like, how can I put this culture in the
Speaker 1: song without trying to like piss anybody off, but still
Speaker 1: make it my own.
Speaker 2: You've worked with Pharrell and you have the new record
Speaker 2: where you're working with Timbaland and shout out to Timberland, who, Yes,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, he's my personal He's not my favorite,
Speaker 2: but he's to me the go because I think his
Speaker 2: range is so crazy. But what was it like, what's
Speaker 2: the difference between working with Pharrell and Timberland, who are
Speaker 2: on the mount rushmore of the producer game.
Speaker 1: You know, they're completely different people. They're completely they have
Speaker 1: completely different like styles and approaches. I'd say, like, I
Speaker 1: mean they both The one thing I do say is
Speaker 1: like similar when it comes to like great great great
Speaker 1: producers is they're very much like into the vibe, like whatever,
Speaker 1: there's like an energy, you know what I'm saying the
Speaker 1: vibe has to be good for like, the vibe has
Speaker 1: to be right. So I'm just so grateful that I've
Speaker 1: worked with both of them, because they're so different. I
Speaker 1: can't say, like, really, what what.
Speaker 2: About the process? Are you like either of those guys?
Speaker 2: Have you cooked up from scratch with them or they
Speaker 2: just playing you like a folder?
Speaker 1: Yes, we cooked it from scratch many times. Yet nice. Well,
Speaker 1: that weekend that I worked with Timberland, it was the
Speaker 1: weekend of Art Bazo, we cooked up from scratch. And
Speaker 1: then there's been many times I've cooked up from scratch of.
Speaker 2: Well, nice, how was our basil?
Speaker 1: Our pazel was vibes? I like Art Bazzel. You'm not
Speaker 1: really that like to too into our I don't know
Speaker 1: enough about it, but I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's fair. I feel like I'm the
Speaker 2: same way. I appreciate it. I A'm buying it, but
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I'll buy like a you know, a
Speaker 2: print of it. Yeah, you know, no, I'll buy it
Speaker 2: like that, like that's art, like a dude redid the
Speaker 2: WrestleMania thirteen posters? So I bought it, you know, and
Speaker 2: I appreciated it.
Speaker 1: Or like if there's a what about if there's an
Speaker 1: artist that you that you're like, oh, I like your
Speaker 1: work also, I'll buy it and support and like grab
Speaker 1: a piece.
Speaker 2: Sure if I know the artists, Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 2: any of those people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so all the artists need to hit you on
Speaker 1: our Instagram and show you.
Speaker 2: Know where I get though. It's got to be fly,
Speaker 2: you know, it's got to be it's some good art. Oh,
Speaker 2: for sure. Some of the show I don't get though.
Speaker 2: It was like teach his own.
Speaker 1: Like the plaint spatter is not your stuff?
Speaker 2: Nah, I don't get it. So you go to Miami
Speaker 2: for artbassele, you end up any strip clubs at all? Like,
Speaker 2: do you do ale out there?
Speaker 1: I love eleven? I Yeah, I love eleven. They're like
Speaker 1: they're like really good friends.
Speaker 2: I feel like you've been you've been booked there before, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been booked at eleven quite a few times.
Speaker 1: I love eleven so much. It's like my happy place.
Speaker 2: I think it is quite possibly the best club in
Speaker 2: the world. It's like top five, top three, top two,
Speaker 2: maybe one. I'd say that because it's like you get
Speaker 2: the best of it. It's like a Vegas club with chicks.
Speaker 1: Exactly, and it's twenty four hours. Yeah, like you got
Speaker 1: to be like a man I'm a maniac.
Speaker 2: So what's the latest or the earliest in the morning
Speaker 2: You've walked out of a club.
Speaker 1: The next day like two pm? Jesus, Yeah, eleven.
Speaker 2: How many hours were wait? Wait how many hours were
Speaker 2: you there?
Speaker 1: Probably ten eleven hours?
Speaker 2: What are you doing inside of eleven for that long?
Speaker 2: Is there? I mean, are you I mean obviously throwing
Speaker 2: money or drinking, raging? Raging?
Speaker 1: Yeah, raging, of course, that's a lot. Dancing, raging, drinking, dancing, rage.
Speaker 2: I've walked out of the booby trap at around nine am. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's like, to me, that's manageable in Miami, like
Speaker 2: two pms. That's a lot. That's super degenerate. Y.
Speaker 1: I think we weren't there at like eight am.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 1: So you're like seven am from I don't know if you.
Speaker 2: Were, like yo, I performed at two thirty and I
Speaker 2: stayed until the whole twelve hour ship that bitch.
Speaker 1: No no, no, I didn't perform and stay. It was
Speaker 1: like we were outside and then we went to eleven
Speaker 1: for breakfast.
Speaker 2: Ah, what is they got breakfast like almonds and jam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got like I think it's chicken and waffles.
Speaker 1: That's in the morning, if you're going, if you go
Speaker 1: in the morning, because they're twenty four hours. So we
Speaker 1: had been out all night and then we went to
Speaker 1: eleven and I think we love it, Like two pm.
Speaker 2: Is it nice to have the Barbs in your corner?
Speaker 2: I feel like the Barbs fuck with you and that's
Speaker 2: a good place to be in and just in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've They've shown me so much love and so
Speaker 1: much support. Like the Barbes are like like who needs uh?
Speaker 1: Like for Niki, it's like she doesn't even need a label,
Speaker 1: like shes are their own arms.
Speaker 2: Like she just read the last night because she didn't
Speaker 2: go to met Gallon. She was like number one on
Speaker 2: trending legend. It's crazy because the Barbs came to my
Speaker 2: defense because I said something about, uh, I love Little Kim,
Speaker 2: but I said something that little Kim's whatever they're called,
Speaker 2: they're her barbs, and they came at me crazy for
Speaker 2: like two days and then the Barbs have my back.
Speaker 2: They're crazy. It sounds like a real army. What is
Speaker 2: do you have a fan based name?
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I've teetled and toddled with a couple of names,
Speaker 1: but I think I'm gonna probably just find one that
Speaker 1: comes naturally, like yeah, m hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you seen Swarm on Amazon Prime? Yes?
Speaker 1: I did. It's really really crazy.
Speaker 2: And it's also kind of like scary like that it's
Speaker 2: kind of like not too far from reality, like and.
Speaker 1: It's it's a little crazy because you don't really see
Speaker 1: women serial killers. M hm.
Speaker 2: So that was there was that one movie, uh Monster
Speaker 2: with Shirley's Starron Did you ever watch that? She was
Speaker 2: a serial killer. She was like a prostitute. She used
Speaker 2: to kill truckers. Yeah, it was a good movie. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna she's like really beautiful girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She she like took on a role as like this
Speaker 2: like white trash like trucker lady who was like a
Speaker 2: lot lizard. Do you know what a lot lizard is?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what a lot lizard is.
Speaker 2: So it's a lot lizard. If you're a truck driver.
Speaker 2: They have truck stops and it's girls who offer lonely
Speaker 2: men who are in trucks at truck stops in the
Speaker 2: middle of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Certain services so why they call them lizards?
Speaker 2: That's just what they call them. They call them a
Speaker 2: lot lizard.
Speaker 1: That is gross.
Speaker 2: It is gross.
Speaker 1: Well it's a dirty name, like.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't disagree. It's a dirty name for
Speaker 2: a dirty job. Yo. On this record, you drop sixteen,
Speaker 2: which I think is dope because you're getting your shit
Speaker 2: off on that.
Speaker 1: Oh thanks, give me some yo.
Speaker 2: What so what job did you get fired from? Oh?
Speaker 1: Man, I had like a job at a like when
Speaker 1: I was, I had tons of jobs. I had every
Speaker 1: single job like grocery store, bar attending, waitressing, but it
Speaker 1: was like a bartending job. I didn't. Oh yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a bartending job and themselves and foot locker too,
Speaker 1: foot locker. Yeah, but I had I have a great
Speaker 1: relationship with full locker, like I was like employee of
Speaker 1: the year. Really No, no, no, not really. But could
Speaker 1: you were you like top tier assistant?
Speaker 2: Were you back door in any of the shoes?
Speaker 1: No? I had keys and everything. I was super responsible,
Speaker 1: like good employee. I was that girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you weren't like if the pair Jordan's came in.
Speaker 1: I wasn't stealing.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not saying stealing. You might set up
Speaker 2: a paraside for your for the homie like, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Did that a few times. Yeah, yeah, I used to
Speaker 1: do that for my friends.
Speaker 2: What was the last real job you had? Was it
Speaker 2: the bar to anything?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And you just like did you literally tell them fuck
Speaker 2: you when you when you got fired?
Speaker 1: No? I didn't actually, not that one one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but not not the last one.
Speaker 2: So you could make a drink like you could make
Speaker 2: like yeah, imb.
Speaker 1: I'm actually like I can make it. I'm really a chef?
Speaker 2: Can you cook everything?
Speaker 1: Literally everything?
Speaker 2: When you say you're really a chef? What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Like the same do you have like a certificate that says,
Speaker 2: so are you just I'm a hood chef? You're a
Speaker 2: hood chef? Okay? Yes, So what's like the go to
Speaker 2: if I had to be like, Okay, Shelby, like what
Speaker 2: is your what are you gonna make there? You're very
Speaker 2: confident in, well, what do you like? I'm I'm into everything.
Speaker 2: I'm a fat fuck as we discussed, because.
Speaker 1: Like I got I got some famous dishes of mine,
Speaker 1: Like if you.
Speaker 2: Had to cook a dish for uh, give me the
Speaker 2: Gordon Ramsey dish. He's sitting there all right, like I'm
Speaker 2: gonna cook you, so.
Speaker 1: I would make it. I would make a medley of things, okay,
Speaker 1: because I feel as though if I have a med ley,
Speaker 1: I can't lose. If you don't like one thing, he's
Speaker 1: gonna like another thing. So I would do these lamb
Speaker 1: chops that I do, these garlic charred mint lamb chops.
Speaker 1: Then they very like taste level, like very very high,
Speaker 1: like it's not even regular at all. And then I
Speaker 1: would do a Chilean sea bass, and then I would
Speaker 1: do on another day, if you come, I would do
Speaker 1: coconut curry chicken and white rice. Jesus, that's a famous
Speaker 1: meal of mine. The people go crazy for you see,
Speaker 1: he's not people go the people go absolutely insane. And
Speaker 1: last but not least, Lasagna rolls talking about it.
Speaker 2: That sounds fire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, their little roles.
Speaker 2: Yo. The best Italian food I ever had was in
Speaker 2: Boston and Little Italy and there's like those little bakeries
Speaker 2: that stay open all night. Yeah, oh my.
Speaker 1: God, Cano's Oh my goodness, I missed Canoli.
Speaker 2: I be got out the fucking club from DJ and
Speaker 2: shit Face and there was a fucking bakery open at
Speaker 2: three in the morning, Like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Is going on over here.
Speaker 2: I love a bakery so lasagna rolls. Yo, what's good man?
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Speaker 2: All these guys they're doing like a ghost kitchens. Right, Yes,
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Speaker 1: Ooh, you come on with the ideas and then.
Speaker 2: You could just license it to a ghost kitchen and
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Speaker 1: Just but they will have them. They'll have my recipes.
Speaker 2: I mean it could be like a water down version
Speaker 2: of the recipe. Like I feel like a lasagna roll
Speaker 2: would be like like, let me get six of those,
Speaker 2: like in a little box.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah you should do that.
Speaker 1: You know what, Next time I come I might bring
Speaker 1: in lasagnae rules.
Speaker 2: That would be amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next time I come here, I'll bring Lasania rules.
Speaker 2: I'll break my diet for that. Okay, I'm on a
Speaker 2: keto diet.
Speaker 1: Just because I like to brag about how good it
Speaker 1: is and then people then you can then you can
Speaker 1: vouch for me, so I don't have to do the
Speaker 1: talking next time, and you'd be like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a really good chef, be it.
Speaker 2: How's the album coming along?
Speaker 1: It's actually like, uh, mixing, mastering finished, so it's done.
Speaker 2: Like you're not turning anything.
Speaker 1: New in Yeah, no, no, no, Well I can't say that
Speaker 1: because if when verses come through last minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you get a crazy verse at the end
Speaker 2: of the finish line.
Speaker 1: Put it on. In terms of your parts, my part
Speaker 1: is done. My part is done when you put out well,
Speaker 1: my part is never all the way done. I might
Speaker 1: seek inspiration tomorrow and just add one in there for
Speaker 1: a surprise.
Speaker 2: So Wednesday, I'm dropping, you're here, so you're obviously working.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's oh yeah, it's it's. It's so it's
Speaker 1: pretty much sealed up.
Speaker 2: Have you let the name fly yet?
Speaker 1: No, but I'm it's I'm so happy about the name.
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: I can't tell you yet?
Speaker 2: But is the artwork done?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes?
Speaker 2: For you? Like, do you feel like because you've put
Speaker 2: out some big singles when you dropped the album and
Speaker 2: you had like a song like London or Basito with
Speaker 2: with ge Herbo, are those like bonus tracks? Are you
Speaker 2: working those into the track listening of the album? Those,
Speaker 2: I feel like you put them at the end so
Speaker 2: they count towards the whole thing, dude, But you gotta
Speaker 2: pull the French Montana.
Speaker 1: It depends that Besita was not on.
Speaker 2: This album, so it's not gonna be on like at
Speaker 2: the end as.
Speaker 1: A No, Basita was one.
Speaker 2: It was on the deluxe.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so London will be on this one maybe
Speaker 1: well yet for sure it will be on this.
Speaker 2: With it is Yeah, you gotta put it on there.
Speaker 1: No, it is. London will be on this one, but
Speaker 1: that's probably like the only record and well London and
Speaker 1: I'm that bitch.
Speaker 2: Is there any features you can reveal?
Speaker 1: No? None, only because I just like surprises, some surprises. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I like to just like let it, let it
Speaker 1: come out.
Speaker 2: How big of a surprise.
Speaker 1: I like big surprises, you know.
Speaker 2: Me, like a stadium surprise or like a House of
Speaker 2: Blues across there.
Speaker 1: Be way I like a big surprise. I like a
Speaker 1: little razzle dazzle every now and then.
Speaker 2: Any Boston features not on.
Speaker 1: This one, but me and Millies would definitely do a song.
Speaker 1: We've been trying to find the time. His schedule in
Speaker 1: my schedule is like crazy.
Speaker 2: Millies is Uh. He's having a moment right now.
Speaker 1: He's incredible. Like, I'm so happy for him.
Speaker 2: I met him in a south By Southwest in like
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen at the hotel lobby. He came up to
Speaker 2: me and was like, I watched a shit on two
Speaker 2: Dope Boys, and now right now that's what's up. And
Speaker 2: then again a long journey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so happy to see like everybody like around
Speaker 1: the world really catch on him too, because he's really
Speaker 1: so genuine and just so good at what he does.
Speaker 1: It's like people need to know about him.
Speaker 2: Who would you put on the Boston hip or let's
Speaker 2: just say Massachusetts, because if Jodan Lucas is not from Boston,
Speaker 2: who's on the Mount Rushmore? Of if you had to
Speaker 2: exclude yourself because you're up there, but Massachusetts as a.
Speaker 1: State, Massachusetts, I would go like legends to like, I'll
Speaker 1: put Guru. Of course, I would do, like a.
Speaker 2: Lot of people don't know Gurus from Boston and Primo
Speaker 2: from Texas.
Speaker 1: That's a hard one. Man.
Speaker 2: Would you let Benzino sniff it? Just take a sniff?
Speaker 1: Sniff?
Speaker 2: What the Mount Rushmore of Boston or Massachusetts hip hop?
Speaker 2: Would let him? At least? Would you at least like
Speaker 2: invite him to the.
Speaker 1: You gotta wear your question. That's crazy, that sounds crazy.
Speaker 1: Sniff it is crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, would you let him sniff the this?
Speaker 2: Would you like consider him? I mean the source was
Speaker 2: big you know, man, Yeah, you know the source. It's
Speaker 2: almighty R s O.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, no, like for sure, Like, yeah, Benzino,
Speaker 1: he's definitely important to the culture.
Speaker 2: He's important. Yeah, absolutely, you're on there. Guru's on there.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't like this guy, Johanner Lucas is
Speaker 2: on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I'll let you. I'll let you pick
Speaker 1: the rush more and I'll just say give you thumbs.
Speaker 2: Can we go non rappers? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Please? Static selected static selected number number one. Okay, terminology.
Speaker 2: Terminology is up there. Yeah, like shout out the term
Speaker 2: man one of my forgetting.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like, I'm so I gotta like
Speaker 1: tap more back into the Boston scene because there's a
Speaker 1: lot of from there.
Speaker 2: Who was Michael Christmas? I know way too much about
Speaker 2: what's the what's the guy's name who's named after beer?
Speaker 2: Is it Samuel Adams from there? Sammy Adams? She had
Speaker 2: never got into his yet. I missed that whole ship,
Speaker 2: but shout out to him. But you're up there? Yeah,
Speaker 2: are we considering Cooy from Boston? Is she from Boston?
Speaker 1: She has roots for sure. Yeah, she's from She's kind
Speaker 1: of like Boston and Jersey.
Speaker 2: Have you and her get to link up and connect.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we're real cool like outside of music too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. She seems like a great energy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love her. She's super genuine and like, I'm
Speaker 1: super happy for her as well.
Speaker 2: How cool was it getting on the NICKI remix that
Speaker 2: just dropped? Because it seemed like she you know, when
Speaker 2: she chooses an all queen lineup of artists to hop
Speaker 2: on a remix, that's got to be a dope honor
Speaker 2: to be included in that.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, she any, I'm so just inspired by like Nicki, Rihanna,
Speaker 1: so many women that I've I've had the chance to
Speaker 1: cross paths with that really inspire me, have shown me
Speaker 1: so much love. So it's made me in turn be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to do that for the other women that
Speaker 1: are like coming up to other the younger girls, just
Speaker 1: because that I've only received that, you know, like it
Speaker 1: gets weird sometimes like music industry stuff and girls, but
Speaker 1: it's really just like I feel like, just support what
Speaker 1: you genuinely like and then like I feel like that
Speaker 1: comes back.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you've done a really good job of
Speaker 2: like just I don't ever see your name like wrapped
Speaker 2: up in any of the like unnecessary drama. Sometimes I
Speaker 2: feel other artists, I just like, what's going on? Why
Speaker 2: is it like these people have no reason to have
Speaker 2: problems with each other? Like it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: So it's good to see like you're I feel like
Speaker 2: you you're kind of also like very mature, like you're
Speaker 2: like you're like a young og, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like you've you've seen this game from a lot of
Speaker 2: different area.
Speaker 1: With me, I'm more like if it's really like if
Speaker 1: you if it's really like some type of pressure you
Speaker 1: you have to address me like for real or you
Speaker 1: have to like address me in real life, like people
Speaker 1: see me outside. I'm outside everywhere. I'm everywhere. I'm at
Speaker 1: every festival, I'm at every show. So I don't really
Speaker 1: feel that energy from anybody, like you know, and I
Speaker 1: don't really give that energy like I.
Speaker 2: Don't have you don't you give a number of positive energy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so confident, it's so happy with what I'm
Speaker 1: doing that I don't have really the time to like
Speaker 1: nitpick girls for no reason, right, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like I'm a positive person for the most part. Everybody
Speaker 1: that knows me knows I just like to have a
Speaker 1: good time and spread love.
Speaker 2: Is Russ on the album not not right now, but
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find a song for him.
Speaker 1: We were speaking about that the other day. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find like the perfect song because I love Russ.
Speaker 1: He's like one of the most knowledgeable and talented.
Speaker 2: People and he's like a like he's like really talent.
Speaker 2: I think he told yesterday he was teasing he's gonna
Speaker 2: put out like a seventies rock song, and I was like, bro,
Speaker 2: I bet it's gonna be fire.
Speaker 1: Because he can do every time.
Speaker 2: He's a beast. For sure. You've done some huge festivals,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like you've done them all at this point,
Speaker 2: But like, what was the one festival you did where
Speaker 2: you just looked at out the crowd you were like, fuck,
Speaker 2: this is fucking.
Speaker 1: Crazy, the biggest one ever?
Speaker 2: Yeah, or just like maybe a nervous moment or just
Speaker 2: like a like something that just sticks out with your biggest.
Speaker 1: To this day, the biggest festival I've ever done was
Speaker 1: the Telethon and Chile with J Balvin. Wow, it was
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand people. It was so many people that
Speaker 1: I couldn't even see like physical people. All I could
Speaker 1: see was little dots, like little heads, little flashes of lights. Crazy,
Speaker 1: But that was the most I've ever seen most people ever.
Speaker 1: But but I love just like festival crowds because people
Speaker 1: that go to festivals like they're going there to gage. Yes,
Speaker 1: So that's my favorite, my favorite energy.
Speaker 2: Because there's like and then you go to a nightclub
Speaker 2: and it's like there's people in there that are just
Speaker 2: like they're holding their bottles standing in the fucking booth
Speaker 2: and they're just like looking at you.
Speaker 1: Like, don't get me wrong. I love nightclubs too now.
Speaker 2: No, they're great.
Speaker 1: Like I turned the nightclubs up.
Speaker 2: I just opened the nightclubs.
Speaker 1: So yes, I come pop in here.
Speaker 2: We can book you with Scott Stele.
Speaker 1: I love Arizona too. Yeah, it gets wild in Scott Steele.
Speaker 2: It does. It does get wild.
Speaker 1: You don't know it gets wild. So you go there
Speaker 1: and see for yourself.
Speaker 2: This is true, This is true for you. Uh what
Speaker 2: about going out on tour for your fans, like going
Speaker 2: and kind of just touching your direct fan base with
Speaker 2: a tour. Is that something that's coming with this album?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, I'm so glad you asked that, because I've
Speaker 1: never been on my own tour.
Speaker 2: I didn't say it feels like it hasn't happened because
Speaker 2: I'm sure because of the pandemic.
Speaker 1: Never and I'm such like an like an older og artist,
Speaker 1: and I have gone on my own tour, but I've
Speaker 1: always been on tour with like huge acts, So I
Speaker 1: feel like it takes up when you go on tour.
Speaker 1: It takes some months. Yeah, So like you'll go on
Speaker 1: tour and you get off tour, you start recording, you
Speaker 1: go on tour again. And I think that that just
Speaker 1: helps me anyways, because when it comes time that I
Speaker 1: go on tour, there's gonna be like so many more
Speaker 1: people for me to.
Speaker 2: See and it's like they're there for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait to see what my tour looks like,
Speaker 1: like with my fans.
Speaker 2: They got that show singing album cuts, you got the
Speaker 2: merch booming. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for that.
Speaker 2: So album coming soon, really soon, very soon, very very soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't like to talk about it to be
Speaker 1: about it, you know.
Speaker 2: So one day we'll just be like, oh, the B
Speaker 2: album's coming out in two weeks. Yeah, the new record
Speaker 2: is crazy with Timblin Thank you. Is there a new
Speaker 2: single coming?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know me, it's always a new single coming. Actually,
Speaker 1: now I've been way more consistent because like I've been
Speaker 1: learning to find that balance, Like when you doing so
Speaker 1: many shows, I feel like this is like new territory
Speaker 1: for me, Like I've the past two years have been
Speaker 1: the busiest I've ever been in my life. So I've
Speaker 1: been trying to balance like you know, new shows, new music,
Speaker 1: seeing family, having a social life, all those things is
Speaker 1: so hard to do.
Speaker 2: I wonder like when, because I've seen artists who will
Speaker 2: do all these festivals right and like they're not doing
Speaker 2: the shows we just talked about, Like when you do
Speaker 2: your own tour, does that ever affect the way you create?
Speaker 2: Like have you ever like been like, damn, I got
Speaker 2: to make a fucking festival record because I see a
Speaker 2: lot of guys doing that shit like and sometimes it
Speaker 2: can it can kind of work out in the negative
Speaker 2: because I think when you try to do stuff on purpose,
Speaker 2: sometimes it comes across that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, well, I do so many festivals and
Speaker 1: so many like you like, just shows with high energy.
Speaker 1: So a lot of my records when I go to
Speaker 1: the studio are high energy records because I'm always picturing
Speaker 1: myself performing records on stage. But I do have those
Speaker 1: albums cause like Motionless where it's like way on sixteen
Speaker 1: that's like way more vulnerable, where like I try to
Speaker 1: you know, talk my shit but still still give a vibe.
Speaker 1: You know. For me, it's like I like to get
Speaker 1: into so many different beats, Like whatever the beat calls
Speaker 1: for is what I'm gonna give.
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Speaker 2: watch it on TV?
Speaker 1: Right now? I'm not watching as much, but I love
Speaker 1: I love Love, Love, Godfather Harlem. Shout out to Forest Whitaker, Yes,
Speaker 1: and shout out Swiss.
Speaker 2: I have yet to see the show. I don't have
Speaker 2: I don't know what platform it's on, but whatever it
Speaker 2: is on the subscribe so I think it's like on
Speaker 2: Epics or something, right, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I don't know. I have everything Netflix, Prime
Speaker 1: and Hulu. But why I love it is because it's
Speaker 1: like I usually watch like documentary stuff, like informative things
Speaker 1: I like to learn. I love Vice, by the way, Yeahvice,
Speaker 1: Vice is a great now.
Speaker 2: Back in the day, the Vice would just be ridiculous really,
Speaker 2: Like I did Heroin for thirty days straight to see
Speaker 2: what happens. Well, you probably became an opiate.
Speaker 1: Ag at a Yeah, okay, so I like this.
Speaker 3: So so crazy shit like that though for real, Like
Speaker 3: I drank nothing but beer for a month.
Speaker 2: Yeah I had McDowell. Yeah, lots of ice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Vice. If I'm not watching Vice, like, I
Speaker 1: like god Father Harland because it's like a show like
Speaker 1: almost like you know how Power is like a show
Speaker 1: and it's like action and the stuff's going down. It's
Speaker 1: like that, but it's real, like a lot of the
Speaker 1: stuff that's going on in that show. You're like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is really this happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard, Like it kind of dives into like
Speaker 2: some of the Malcolm X ship.
Speaker 1: It goes into like real heard it's great, so you
Speaker 1: kind of see like why things are the way they are,
Speaker 1: but it makes it into a show.
Speaker 2: You ever watch Yellowstone?
Speaker 1: No, but I heard that was so good.
Speaker 2: It is good.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch that one. It is a good show
Speaker 1: when I find some Netflix.
Speaker 2: It's definitely on Netflix now. It's like on Parent, Paramount plus, Peacock, Peacock,
Speaker 2: Kevin Costner.
Speaker 1: It's so many TV.
Speaker 2: Did you watch a Snowfall?
Speaker 1: Oh, don't ask me that you didn't watch it. I
Speaker 1: watched and pieces of stuff. I've never watched it.
Speaker 2: What about Breaking Bad? Yes? I did? You finished it all?
Speaker 1: Not the whole thing with the wire? No, but you
Speaker 1: like power? Yes? I love power.
Speaker 2: You see you gotta watch the wire the wires like
Speaker 2: I love power. I see that like I watched the
Speaker 2: first time BMF good. Yeah, shout out to little Meach
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Would you for you like, uh,
Speaker 2: if you could, if you could ever get into like acting,
Speaker 2: being an actress? Like, would you ever try to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that?
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like you should do it.
Speaker 1: I feel like I have a role that that it's
Speaker 1: kind of like me. So it doesn't feel like I'm
Speaker 1: acting because when I go on like acting auditions.
Speaker 2: You've done that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so bad. Well I'm not so bad, but
Speaker 1: I mean maybe I just need some practice.
Speaker 2: You gotta go to a coach, but I gotta go.
Speaker 1: I gotta get the roles that are like good for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you want to get type casted at first, Like.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go and do a role that's like, oh,
Speaker 1: what is she? She's trying to be that role.
Speaker 2: Listen, when ice Cube fst started acting, they just casted
Speaker 2: him as ice Cube.
Speaker 1: That's what I need.
Speaker 2: I need to be casting ice Cube is and boys
Speaker 2: in the Hood just playing himself really and you could
Speaker 2: just you know, play yourself. See if a little Dicky
Speaker 2: You'll put you an episode of Dave next season.
Speaker 1: That's a good idea as be a see you can
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: Have you ever watched Dave?
Speaker 1: A little Dickie?
Speaker 2: Dave's good? Have you seen it? It's really funny. You
Speaker 2: don't watch a lot of TV. I said, Godfather of Harlem.
Speaker 1: I only watched that like power informative stuff.
Speaker 2: What about what about movies? What's your like favorite movie? Ever?
Speaker 2: Give me like two or three because I'm sure there's
Speaker 2: a few coming to her.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm so bad with movies.
Speaker 2: You don't watch movies.
Speaker 1: No, jesus, I'm like a creative.
Speaker 2: You're just making making smashes and cooking. Lot up.
Speaker 1: I'm like doing nails and like you do your own nails? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like hanging out with my friend.
Speaker 2: You did this yourself.
Speaker 1: So I did a few of them. This this talented
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Speaker 1: and I broke like three of them, so I had
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Speaker 1: Good glass. I'll get you one. It's called Oh it's
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Speaker 2: It'll just I give it to my wife. My wife's
Speaker 2: a huge fan of yours, by the way. Oh really,
Speaker 2: Oh she's all fucking she's just working out and your
Speaker 2: shit's just fucking and album everything.
Speaker 1: Just look at you'll like this.
Speaker 2: Look at the color Beauty for Certain.
Speaker 1: Isn't it cute like that? And if it's in literally everything,
Speaker 1: I don't like that.
Speaker 2: Check you out, your entrepreneur getting it in with anything
Speaker 2: else you got cooking and you're gonna start a restaurant.
Speaker 1: Maybe a nail salon or something. I love nails.
Speaker 2: Do you still are you still based in Massachusetts or.
Speaker 1: You just I've been in LA for a while.
Speaker 2: You don't miss, uh miss the shitty weather and the
Speaker 2: you know, looking white folks everywhere?
Speaker 1: My family, But that's about That's the well, the most
Speaker 1: I miss.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about your Celtics?
Speaker 1: I love the Celtics. Go Celtics.
Speaker 2: You gotta get Jason Tatum in a music video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or Jaylen Brown or Market Smart or Marcus Smart.
Speaker 1: I would get all three of them in a music video.
Speaker 1: Get all three, all three? You really it's a good video.
Speaker 2: I like it. You feel good about the Celtics here, Like,
Speaker 2: do we think they're gonna come back? James Harden just
Speaker 2: gave him, you know, gave him forty five. It's rough.
Speaker 1: It's like, how could you doubt them? Look at that,
Speaker 1: Look at what they do. They come through. So it's like,
Speaker 1: just just relax, Just.
Speaker 2: Relax because Tatum, your favorite Celtic.
Speaker 1: Jayalen is probably one of my favorite Celtics is a
Speaker 1: really good friend.
Speaker 2: Is amazing. I heard his dad is like Megan the
Speaker 2: Staanian's bodyguard or some shit.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know that.
Speaker 2: I think that's true. I think Jason, I think I
Speaker 2: think his dad's Megan this Stanian's bodyguard.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't know that, you know what's crazy? Like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask him that because I don't know how I
Speaker 1: wouldn't know that.
Speaker 2: Like be like, hey, does your dad do something with
Speaker 2: Megan the status?
Speaker 1: Sure it's him, I'm pretty I'm like.
Speaker 2: A hundred, I'm like ninety nine point nine percent sure
Speaker 2: his dad is somehow Yes, actually I'm sure, I'm one
Speaker 2: hundred percent sure.
Speaker 1: If you know that and we don't know that and
Speaker 1: we actually like our friends, ja.
Speaker 2: He doesn't want that like out there, you know then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's I've never heard that one before.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think I could be totally wrong. Hey, listen,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask. He might have got maybe you gotta
Speaker 2: let go. I don't know. Well listen. New album coming
Speaker 2: soon with Good Purpose obviously, new album coming very soon.
Speaker 2: New single with Timberland out. He made that beat right.
Speaker 1: Yes, Timberland and Skip and Little Rich like they all
Speaker 1: cooked up and they did their like situation like timber.
Speaker 2: Line can do anything. This motherfucker made a drill beat
Speaker 2: like he could do. He does country does justin Timberlake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I was so excited too. That was
Speaker 1: his idea to do, just to do it drill fire. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was like, let's flip this and let's do it.
Speaker 2: True did He started off with like a beatbox because
Speaker 2: I heard sometimes he'd be in the studio, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like.
Speaker 1: He's always I feel like the whole time he was beatboxing,
Speaker 1: like it's like natural for him it's amazing. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: so talented.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Timberland, Shout out to you. Album coming soon,
Speaker 2: Go buy some.
Speaker 1: Makeup and some makeup.
Speaker 2: Tour on the way, and yeah, bea appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Well it