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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lollly here with Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt it's a Friday. This is the Drive.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's a a Friday. We're still fighting

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Speaker 1: some rain drops here again today a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: was checking the weather, but it doesn't seem like it's

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Speaker 1: correlating with my weather apps on the grass field, so that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it tells me it's not going to get bad.

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Speaker 1: If if it was gonna get bad, they'd be over

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Speaker 1: on the turf field. So but having here's a little wet,

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Speaker 1: little damp, assuming it's gonna blow through and and uh

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Speaker 1: Steelers will get their third ye practice of this training

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Speaker 1: camp in I'm sure Coach t would much rather be though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not real hot Tomorrow's I think

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Speaker 1: tomorrow is supposed to be sunny in five so okay,

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Speaker 1: that'll be a good day. And that's the last unpadded practice.

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Speaker 1: That's the last time of practice that was wrong about

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Speaker 1: that before they made another change in the c b

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Speaker 1: A that those first four days he used to be

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Speaker 1: the first three days where the heat acclamation period. Now

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Speaker 1: it's four days, so Monday Sunday they're off. Sunday they're off.

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Speaker 1: Monday will be the first padded practice and that will

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Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. It's definitely a ramp up though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's a big difference than what we've seen. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Like I talked to Pat Meyer today, their offensive line coach,

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Speaker 1: and he was getting nasked there were there a couple

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Speaker 1: of us are talking to him and you know, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about the left guard battles things like that, and

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Speaker 1: he's like, you really can't tell anything yet, especially so

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Speaker 1: these guys get to get the pads on, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then you're then you're gonna start to see the

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Speaker 1: one on ones and things of that nature. They can't

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Speaker 1: do that now they're in, but it's still not going

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Speaker 1: to do that. And even working on you know, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna double team this guy and get up to the

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Speaker 1: second level. I mean, you still can't thump them, you know,

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Speaker 1: you can't try to drive like they're walking through that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff to get the Russell memory, but it

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Speaker 1: is it's not the preliminary stuff. Yeah, which brings me

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. I kinda wanna talk about the

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Speaker 1: left guard thing a little bit. But also before you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, when it's all said and done, there aren't

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Speaker 1: that many real practices practice. Yeah, I mean like real football,

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Speaker 1: old school Bear Bryant practices. You know, like there's not

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Speaker 1: much of that time at all between now and an

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Speaker 1: opening day. There really isn't. And then you only have

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Speaker 1: the three preseason games, which yeah, right, you know, how

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Speaker 1: much does everybody play? And you know the teams like

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Speaker 1: the Rams don't play anybody, you know. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: really kind of makes things tough on the young guys.

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Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know these new CBA rules you know,

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Speaker 1: for you because you catch the coach's eye in the

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Speaker 1: padded practices, oh yeah, or making a big, big play

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Speaker 1: on in the preseason. I mean that Terrell Davis example

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Speaker 1: always comes up. He was a sixth round running back

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Speaker 1: even earlier that year. But he blows someone up on

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Speaker 1: kickoff like whoa okay, and then the special teams coach notices,

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Speaker 1: and then I give a couple more reps of running

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Speaker 1: back because he's gonna be active on game day, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so there's much less opportunity for that, really is,

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Speaker 1: And so I think maybe that even ramps up the

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Speaker 1: intensity a little bit more than what you would typically see,

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Speaker 1: because those guys are gonna be a good point. You know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get out here and and make a name

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Speaker 1: for yourself quickly. You know, you can't mess around, and

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Speaker 1: you hope they realize that I can't warm up to it.

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Speaker 1: You can't be like, oh, it was a long process.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pace myself. You know, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: get ahead of get over my skis too much. But

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Speaker 1: don't you better, I mean, especially your fringe. Dude, here's

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Speaker 1: the other thing that you always would see in previous years,

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Speaker 1: like a guy who flashes early and then kind of

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Speaker 1: fades away. Well, now if you flash early, really happened,

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Speaker 1: that's a good point. But really I don't have to

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Speaker 1: count them. What is there maybe fifteen real practices? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and once you know the way Mike Tomlins always handled this,

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Speaker 1: you know, once they get into the games, the preseason games,

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Speaker 1: they'll start scaling things back a little bit because practice

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Speaker 1: there's a lot less prep than people think, and which

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Speaker 1: is to be honest, it's perfectly fine for Cam Heyward.

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Speaker 1: You know, seventeen games schedule, hopefully some playoff games on

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Speaker 1: top of that. Don't beat my body up at all.

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Speaker 1: But from Isaiah louder Milk, you know, it might be

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Speaker 1: But or just knowing what they're doing, Yeah, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, just to figure things. That's that's why you

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Speaker 1: do have the offseason program, which helps um, you know,

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Speaker 1: And so these first four practices are kind of the

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Speaker 1: extension of that, reinforcing a lot of the stuff that

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Speaker 1: that stuff. These ones have really felt a lot like

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Speaker 1: Mini Camp and O T A S to me, you know,

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Speaker 1: a little more intense. And you know, Mini Camp was

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Speaker 1: a little more intense than O T A S. And

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Speaker 1: these are a little more intense than Mini Camp, which

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Speaker 1: was the way they drew it up on paper in

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Speaker 1: the contract, which makes some sense to me, But It's

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Speaker 1: not old school football by any stretch yet, you know,

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Speaker 1: training not no, not one bit. Uh. Guys starting to

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Speaker 1: get their helmets here, fans are getting routing heading out

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Speaker 1: onto the field. Here is practice gets under way. We

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Speaker 1: are underway here live from St. Vincent College, adjacent to

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Speaker 1: Chuck Dole, uh Chuck Noll Field. Here is the Steelers

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Speaker 1: start to take a part in their practice. The Uh,

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Speaker 1: the big Uglies are down at the other end of

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Speaker 1: the field. They're getting ready to take some We're watching

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Speaker 1: the specialists here on our side of things. Uh. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned the Big Uglies to start the show. I mean

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Speaker 1: what they're doing down there in Indy isn't much different

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Speaker 1: than what they'll do all day. Yeah right, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: their helmets on, they're learning about hands placement and you know,

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Speaker 1: assignments and all that. But until Monday, that's not a

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Speaker 1: whole lot different than their responsibilities you know throughout the course.

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Speaker 1: It really isn't. Yeah, I mean snapped the football. Everybody

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Speaker 1: stands up and kinda I got him, Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: right where like you go through the motions. Um, what

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Speaker 1: we're so we can do it. Later, I'm looking here

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Speaker 1: at Presley Harvin Um. I was told that he has

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Speaker 1: down forty pounds this year. Uh, which is a big

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Speaker 1: number to number for anybody, right for a punter, for

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Speaker 1: mean even you know, when he was drafted, it was WHOA,

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Speaker 1: look at that guy. He doesn't look like everybody else,

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Speaker 1: A little more rotund than the average punter. Unbelievably powerful though,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I know he's kind of in the

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Speaker 1: fans doghouse, but he has an awful lot of ability. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and if he can, if he trims down, obviously that

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Speaker 1: means he's putting in the work and wants to be

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Speaker 1: more limber, quicker, you know. I mean, people don't think

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Speaker 1: about athleticism for a punter, and frankly it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: for kickers, but for punters it does a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You're just into bad snaps a lot of those times

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you to throw, like you want a good

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Speaker 1: punter to you want your athlete, or if you're scouting punters,

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Speaker 1: athleticism counts, you know, kicker, I don't care if he

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Speaker 1: I'll put through the uprights, you know. Yeah, Now you

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Speaker 1: do have to have a little bit of you know,

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Speaker 1: might be a problem. Or even holding there's some athleticism

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Speaker 1: to holding too, Yeah, catching bad snaps. Your punn has

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Speaker 1: gotta have good hands, um, and I do think Harvin

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Speaker 1: he needs is a consistency. Yes, you know from punt

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Speaker 1: But no doubt. I mean, if you're if just maybe

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Speaker 1: that doesn't even change the way the ball comes off

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Speaker 1: his foot or anything, But if you've dedicated yourself in

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Speaker 1: the off season to lose that much weight, it matters

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Speaker 1: to you, you know what I mean. Like I remember

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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston did that, and I thought, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden he is pretty quick feet

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Speaker 1: as opposed to you know, slightly slower than average feet.

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Speaker 1: And you know, that kind of stuff matters. And I

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Speaker 1: think you showed the team that, Hey, I'm not happy

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Speaker 1: with what I put on tape here the first time around.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to change my reputation. That's the thing I've

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Speaker 1: I've seen videos of him kicking in the off season,

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Speaker 1: and um, you know, for him, I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: can you kick it high? You don't have to averaging

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Speaker 1: forty nine or fifty yards per punt. I don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: returned the ball, right, if they're catching fair catch after

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Speaker 1: fair catch, well that's no big plays allowed, you know.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, when it's hanging up there.

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Speaker 1: If anyone's ever tried to catch a punt, I have not,

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Speaker 1: but we used a joke about it all the time

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Speaker 1: on my podcast way back when it's one of the

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Speaker 1: hardest things in the game. I mean, especially when weather's

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Speaker 1: coming at you. Oh by the way, there's eleven people

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Speaker 1: screaming on the field trying to knock your face off,

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Speaker 1: you know. So catching a punt in itself is difficult.

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Speaker 1: And if he can boom big hang times, little returns,

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Speaker 1: the schools be just fine. Yeah. I did actually wrote

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Speaker 1: a story about that a couple of years ago. I

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Speaker 1: talked to some guys who do it, Deante Johnson, Bryan Switzer,

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Speaker 1: some other guys who who have returned punts in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And then, you know, I think that like the punters

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Speaker 1: They're putting different spins on the ball and knuckleballs, and

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Speaker 1: because you can't see the punter when you're you know,

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Speaker 1: you're forty five yards down field, he's he's another eight

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Speaker 1: going to stand up in block form. You can't see

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Speaker 1: see it in the air, and then you gotta figure out, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what kind of spin is that? What what do you

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Speaker 1: of them can do it where the ball and spin

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Speaker 1: that stuff. But the AUSEE guys do different things. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, I remember the years with the Browns. Buddy

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Speaker 1: special teams coach, and I ran into him in a

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Speaker 1: genuine of a person he is and the great thing

424
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 1: is about the community, and we're anxious for him to

425
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,239
Speaker 1: He's coming actually the training camp next week, so we'll

426
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 1: see if we can get him on s N All

427
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,879
Speaker 1: right with you, but uh, he's coming in next week

428
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 1: and he truly is a genuine Steelers fan and he

429
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 1: wants to do things in the community. He understands that

430
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know who actu Sure is. However,

431
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 1: he has taken that as a great challenge to ensure

432
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 1: that what he does in the community, what he does

433
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,120
Speaker 1: up in Grand Rapids with the Children's hospital up there

434
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 1: and all the different efforts that the company does. He's

435
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 1: bringing at the Pittsburgh So we're excited. I know that

436
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,919
Speaker 1: once he gets acclimated and people start understanding how genuine

437
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 1: of a quote unquote outside pittsburgher is, I really think

438
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna welcome him with open arms because, like I said,

439
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,919
Speaker 1: he really wants to do things for the community. He

440
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 1: really wants to do things for the stadium, and it

441
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: gives us extra incentive to make sure that if there

442
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 1: are upgrades and things like that, we're able to take

443
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 1: that to the next level. That's fantastic. I mean, it's

444
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: great for it sounds like for the whole city of

445
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 1: the community, as you mentioned. So it's safe to say that,

446
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't even necessarily just targeting any of

447
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: the thirty two you know teams. He was starting in

448
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 1: this one absolutely folutely. And the great part is the

449
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 1: connection with Thomas Tall, one of our part of our

450
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: investment Um ownership group. Uh, there's a connection there, the

451
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: natural connection there, and as we all know, Thomas loves

452
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 1: the Steelers through and through, and since he had a

453
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 1: relationship with Greg, they wanted to get some brand recognition

454
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: out there no other uh, no better way to do

455
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 1: it than with the Pittsburgh Steelers in our home stadium.

456
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 1: So again, once once we kick off Week two uh

457
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: at Kishire Stadium, there's gonna be some minimal changes. We're

458
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: working on the Hall of Honor uh uh museum that

459
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 1: it's going to be open later on. But there's a

460
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: lot of things that over the balance of this uh

461
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: of this contract, we're gonna be able to upgrade. So well,

462
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: that's new too. And then now that you mentioned the

463
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 1: the museum there, what what kind of changes could can

464
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 1: fans expect to see there? Well, we're excited that hopefully

465
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 1: it's opening later on in the season and that's the

466
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: goal and we're on target for that. And I've took

467
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 1: a sneak peek. Uh it looks beautiful. Don't get me on.

468
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna tell the story of whenever the Hall of

469
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 1: Honor classes began about five years ago, it was a

470
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: place in a way for us to recognize not only

471
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: the greats from the seventies and the eighties and you

472
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: know current players or you know recently retired players, but

473
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: people in the forties and fifties that a lot of

474
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: these fans, they think a lot of our season started

475
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: exactly exactly, so it'll it'll be great. It will have graphics, video,

476
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: fan interaction, and it's located right at at your stadium.

477
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: So we're excited about that. And to be honest with you,

478
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: were excited about tomorrow because Hall of Honor classes uh

479
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: announced tomorrow. So that's that's going on up here. Our

480
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: fans are gonna be able to watch it listen to it. Uh.

481
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 1: So I I wish I could say that who the

482
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: inductees are, but I think that our fans will be

483
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: very excited tomorrow at one o'clock whenever they get announce

484
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 1: yet one o'clock, and they'll be able to watch it

485
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: on our on our webs site, through our mobile app

486
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: and everything. And again it's about a twenty minutes ceremony

487
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: or President Art Rooney. The second will be uh, we'll

488
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: be on our stan Savereign will be hosting it, so

489
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 1: it'll be it'll be a good event. And Uh, Like

490
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: I said, I think the fans and everyone alike will

491
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: be excited about the class we have from you know

492
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: the name. I do know the names, but being in PR,

493
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna get that. How many people

494
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: on the planet know the names. There's probably about eight

495
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 1: to ten people, maybe more depending on if their families

496
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: are aware at this time. So, but it's gonna be

497
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: a good class. It's always a big deal. I know,

498
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 1: the fans since since you guys started doing that. I mean,

499
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: I get Pepper with questions about that all the time,

500
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: like who do you think the next class can do?

501
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: Who would you put in? I'm like, there's just so

502
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: many of it, you know, if you're only gonna do

503
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 1: four or five every year or whatever, it is, like

504
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: it's tough. And and the great part is we try

505
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: to make sure that we recognize those uh individuals that

506
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: played in the forties fifties, because, to be honest with you,

507
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: the record might not have been great back then, but

508
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: there were some great Hall of Fame type players back then.

509
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: So it's good that they're finally getting the recognition they

510
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: deserve because obviously some of them and a lot of

511
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: them can't make it into Canton. So this is a

512
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: special way for them to recognize that. Hey, the team,

513
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: the organization really appreciates what they've done for the history

514
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: of our organization. How long has it been around the

515
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: Hall of Honor because I was down at Mini Camp

516
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: and I was strolling through the indoor and looked up

517
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: at the Hall Honor and thought, Man, you guys running

518
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: a room already. I mean, there's so many good names,

519
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: and there's so many more you could put on. I mean,

520
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: Dale and I were sort of making fun of some

521
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: other organizations that you could really strain to find some names,

522
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: but you guys have so many more that are valid. Yeah,

523
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: it's amazing. And that's what this Hall of Honor museum

524
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: is all about, because, as you guys know, we used

525
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: to have it in the FedEx Great Hall at Accuser Stadium,

526
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: so now it's going to be in a large museum

527
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: type form of recognition. So it's an interact area. And

528
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I remember, whenever I believe

529
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: it was Super Bowl forty three, Uh, whenever I believe

530
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: it's Dan Patrick, guest Ambassador Rooney, Hey, you got your

531
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: six Super Bowl here. You know that room in the

532
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: second floor at the facility, the practice facility. You know,

533
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: he's getting a little a little tight, and he's like,

534
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: we'll make room for more. So we will make room

535
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: for more. Whole of Honor over the years. It makes

536
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: some more after plenty of other opportunities. And it's great

537
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: too because the fans love. We love hearing about their opinions.

538
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: Why was so and so not in Well, it's given

539
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: give their time, time, given time. What are the rules again,

540
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: like how long has been have to wait? They have

541
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: three years after they retire yet so and certain amount

542
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: number of years with the team. So there's a couple

543
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: of stipulations, but I can tell you that there are

544
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: there was a long list of potential inductees that over

545
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: the next several years. I'm sure we'll get in like

546
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: seventh chances him someday. I think he'll probably feel at

547
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: some point probably, So this is a year of transition

548
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: for you guys, mentioning seven. Of course you're you're changing

549
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: at quarterback, but you also have a change at general

550
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: manager with Omar Khan taking over. And he's obviously been here,

551
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: but it's a new role for Omar. And how's that

552
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: been for him? I know Omar Uh at some point

553
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: here you said we're gonna get a chance to talk

554
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: to him. I don't know that that's necessarily something he's

555
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: going to enjoy about the job, but not that Kevin did. Yes,

556
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: that is accurate. Kevin always did it with a smile.

557
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: Though he always did it. He was a master of

558
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: saying things, but not saying so many things. To be

559
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: honest with you. Before whenever we had his initial press conference,

560
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: uh what back two months ago and a month or

561
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: so whatever it was, I obviously worked with them on

562
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: how to talk and go about certain things and interview

563
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: process and everything kind of like what we do with everyone,

564
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: so and to be honest with you, he picked it

565
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: up pretty good. And uh in his press conference he

566
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: was very calm and relaxed. So he's done a few. Uh,

567
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: we've had some national folks come through over the last

568
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. He's done some few and Uh. The

569
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: great thing about him with the interview processes, he's the

570
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: one that told me he would like to do more

571
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: of a press conference setting rather than like just to

572
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: sit around the table and relax. So that's coming soon.

573
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: But the transition to be honest with you, there's a

574
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: lot of the times that people just think that he

575
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: was a cap guy or anything like he's been in

576
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: draft meetings since he's been here in too. I mean,

577
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: he is he knows the drill and he surrounded himself

578
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: with a lot of talent as well, so he's excited

579
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: for the job. Him and Mike have obviously worked closely

580
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: together past fifteen plus years, so the transition is it's

581
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: not always change isn't always bad. But to be honest

582
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: with you, so far with home Or, he's been great

583
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 1: in terms of willing to uh, willing to do what

584
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: we ask him. He's uh. He knows that his uh

585
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: the mandated things that he has to do during camp

586
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: and things, and not shine away from it. He's actually

587
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: anxious for it. And to be honest with you, like

588
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: he said in his press conference, the goal is here,

589
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: it's not to change things. It's the insertain new ideas,

590
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: but ultimately get that Lombardi Trophy. You mentioned his cap background,

591
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: which is immediately what you think of him, and obviously

592
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: that was his biggest role here up until now. But

593
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: I think more and more you're gonna see more gms

594
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: across the league with massive cap backgrounds. I mean, it's

595
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: almost a cheap code if you can manage that cap

596
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: extremely well. It's like any other business not sport related,

597
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: that that's almost first and foremost. Now, I think that's

598
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: a real trend and to be honest with you, Matt,

599
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: the everyone always talks about how we have been uh

600
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: in bad cap situations over the years. He got you

601
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: out of them a lot of those. And the great

602
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: part is we still had a successful team, so it

603
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: wasn't like that we had to dig out and say,

604
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: oh no, well the next two years. He's done a

605
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: great job in terms of that. And if you look

606
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: around the league too, you know they're changing, not just

607
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: the mentality of the old school scouts and stuff. Uh,

608
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: there is a lot of younger gms getting positions, uh,

609
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: both men and women and personnel roles so exactly. Analytics

610
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: are a big part of the NFL right now. So

611
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: he hired some different people that are able to uh

612
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: kind of collaborate all those different areas and he's excited

613
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: about it. And see what happens. You mentioned that Greg Williams,

614
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: community worker. You guys get some stuff that you're working

615
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: on here as well with the community relations stuff on

616
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: the field. What what you got cooking? Yeah? We in fact,

617
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: every day our director of community Relations, Blair Holmes, Uh,

618
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: we bring different members of the community down at each

619
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: day groups anywhere from fifteen and they're from the Homewood

620
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: Children's Village. They're different high schools. There are different people

621
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: that want want and get the opportunity to be on

622
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: the sideline see the guys. The guys come over to

623
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: him afterwards, talk to him because like I said, just

624
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: about the fans, these these community groups also, it means

625
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: a lot for the Steelers to take time out of

626
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: their day and every day she has people set up

627
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: every day fifteen to people. Uh And it's not just

628
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: a autograph signing a lot of the times, it's youth

629
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: football teams that come in and do a little mini

630
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: camps over here to my level. So it's it's not

631
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: just the community efforts, it's the youth football efforts. And

632
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: they do a great job in terms of that because

633
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: there's so many different areas of the city that have

634
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: underprivileged you know, communities that might not get a chance

635
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: to come and see the guys a lot. So to

636
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: have Mike Tomlin say hello to them, give them, you know,

637
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Speaker 1: one or two minutes of guidance, or have uh Cam

638
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Speaker 1: Hayward come over and say that means a lot. That

639
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: means a lot to these guys, and it means a

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Speaker 1: lot to their communities. That they're able to go back

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Speaker 1: and tell their families and tell their school classmates that hey,

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Speaker 1: I got a chance to, you know, hang out with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers for a day and get some instructions. And

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Speaker 1: that's what we try to do, to be honest with you,

645
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Speaker 1: in this training camp setting. We didn't get to do

646
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Speaker 1: it as much in the last two years at the stadium.

647
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Speaker 1: So now, uh, they are lined up. She she does

648
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Speaker 1: a great job of lying them up and getting them

649
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Speaker 1: in here, and it's exciting. So Bert, you and I

650
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: met many moons ago, both working for Pitts Athletic Department,

651
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: and your Steelers go out and draft the pit guy

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Speaker 1: this year in Kenny has been great in terms of

653
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Speaker 1: just dealing with me too. He always has a smile

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Speaker 1: on his face and sure, Bert, whatever you need type thing.

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Speaker 1: And he did a good job. Yeah. So in fact,

656
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Speaker 1: whenever he was drafted, e J and I spoke and

657
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: he literally is like, Bert, you're gonna love him. He's

658
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: so easy to work with and from I don't have

659
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Speaker 1: any say what he does on the field, but everything

660
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Speaker 1: off the field, he has been gracious, has been upfront like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll do this, but I you know, I want to

662
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Speaker 1: shy away from this, so he's been great so far.

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00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, couple, my old pit buddy

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Speaker 1: said the exact same thing. I snucked next door when

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Speaker 1: we were at minicamp, just to ask a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and they all rave about the young guy. Yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 1: I echo that that. That's fantastic. We won't hold you

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Speaker 1: up anymore. You get I know, you gotta get over

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Speaker 1: and take care of actice and do those kind of things.

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Speaker 1: Here's the Steelers take on take the field for practice

671
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Speaker 1: number three here. Can't wait for that. Hopefully by then

672
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Speaker 1: we'll be able to see it. So listen, Dale, I

673
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: can guarantee you'll be able to see the pad. All right.

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Speaker 1: That's that's all we asked for this though this is

675
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: more just mini camp stuff. Anyway. I saw all that,

676
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Speaker 1: you know, so I'll be ready to do that then.

677
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: But our guests has been burnt out in the Steelers

678
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Speaker 1: pr director. We appreciate him stopping by giving us all

679
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: the inside scoop here and everything that's going on here.

680
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm guessing there's probably we might be pushing eight

681
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: people here today. It's a lot. It's a nice crowd.

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00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: There's people lined up along the walkway over there as well.

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Speaker 1: The best one yet that I've seen. It's the best

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Speaker 1: one yet. This is great to see this many people

685
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Speaker 1: out here. It's just fantastic. But Matt and I are

686
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Speaker 1: going to take a break. We'll be back with more

687
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: on the drive right after this. Let's go play some

688
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Speaker 1: always talking Black and Gold football on SNR Steelers Nation. Rady,

689
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lally here with Matt Williamson and

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00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: uh practices. Uh, we're seeing some uh we gotta hear

691
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Speaker 1: some some passing drills taking place here in front of us. Uh,

692
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: watching the quarterbacks throw. And this is a little different.

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Speaker 1: These are just the kind of they still they're they're

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Speaker 1: still in the warm up portion of practice. Um, they're

695
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Speaker 1: just starting, so I'm trying to get a beat exactly

696
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Speaker 1: on what they're doing. But I've been really interested in

697
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback drills to start practice the last couple of days.

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Speaker 1: You know, I remember the first one, the first second.

699
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Speaker 1: I get my days mixed up here, but they were

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Speaker 1: doing tons of designed rollouts. You know, as soon as

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Speaker 1: a snap comes rolling right and left, you know a

702
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: lot of teams will only go right. Um. I think

703
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw so much at the opponents this year.

704
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they'll be quick hitters along developing plays.

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Speaker 1: A lot asked at the quarterback, you know, from ball

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Speaker 1: handling and from a footwork perspective, and people think about

707
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: I so often get boy, the quarterbacks are gonna run

708
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: so much more this year. Well, yeah, because almost every

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Speaker 1: team than they did last year. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: the offense is all about I mean, it's not gonna

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Speaker 1: resemble the Ravens. I mean, no, they're not gonna be that. No,

712
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Speaker 1: they're not could be you know. I mean, there'll be

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Speaker 1: some quarterback keepers. They'll probably be some zone read stuff

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Speaker 1: that if the d n plays the running back, the

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Speaker 1: quarterback keeps it. But I think more so in terms

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Speaker 1: of quarterback athleticism, they want lightfooted guys with soft hands

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Speaker 1: and ball handling skills, and guys that can throw in

718
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Speaker 1: the move. I think that's one thing that really stood

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Speaker 1: out about my interview with Mike Sullivan, their their quarterbacks coach, yesterday,

720
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Speaker 1: Like He's like, you know, you have to be able

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Speaker 1: to not just be able to move, but you know

722
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Speaker 1: a lot of guys can move, but they can't hit

723
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Speaker 1: the broadside of a barn able to to do that too.

724
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: You have to be able to to be accurate. And

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00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: those designed roll out as well as the ad lib plays.

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Speaker 1: You know, like Tom Brady is not a good athlete,

727
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Speaker 1: but he's always been a good rollout. Square your shoulder,

728
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Speaker 1: fundamentally get it out, you know. I mean, so you

729
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: don't need Michael Vick and Lamar Jackson, you know, and

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Speaker 1: all these guys are good athletes and good movement players. Yeah. Absolutely, Um,

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Speaker 1: I know looking at these guys, everybody's kind of putting

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Speaker 1: a lot, you know, of emphasis on the quarterbacks. Of course,

733
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Speaker 1: everybody's looking at every throw and the Steelers aren't looking

734
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Speaker 1: at it that way. First of all, they they're they're

735
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Speaker 1: looking at the total package here. Um. Yeah, they want

736
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Speaker 1: to they want to see what all these guys can do. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, Mike Tomlins even said, hey, we're not going

738
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Speaker 1: to judge us on a pass per pass situations in

739
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Speaker 1: I know the media likes to do that at times,

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Speaker 1: and we've talked about this a nauseam since we've been here.

741
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Speaker 1: But I don't want to hear someone was nine for

742
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Speaker 1: ten or ten out of eleven, or one out of fifty.

743
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Speaker 1: I don't care. You know, it's all about the degree

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Speaker 1: of difficulty, right, Uh, it's all about you doing it

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00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: with You know that those kind of things matter too.

746
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Speaker 1: M everybody's gonna get a chance here. Uh well, except

747
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: for there's a lot of con he was, he's getting

748
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Speaker 1: very little of a chance. But that sign up for

749
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Speaker 1: you and I have thrown as many passages in eleven

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Speaker 1: eleven as far as he has, right, and that's probably

751
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: going to continue to be the case until maybe the

752
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: last week or so of it has to be the

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00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: other three, just the other three, specially pisky, but the

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00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: need a lot to me. Things will ramp up a

755
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: little bit more next week. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and guys,

756
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Speaker 1: I mean, guy's arms will get a little tired or

757
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: two and you know, I mean you don't want to

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Speaker 1: start y. Yeah. Actually Mason Rudolph was asked about that,

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Speaker 1: um the other day. He was asked, Hey, you know

760
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: Ben always got a day off, every third day off.

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Speaker 1: He's you know, do you see Mike doing that with

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Speaker 1: any of the get you guys this year? She's like, no,

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00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:52,479
Speaker 1: maybe after my twelfth year in the league, and right, yeah,

764
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: and nor should they. I mean, can you imagine one

765
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: of those guys going to coach like I could reause

766
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Speaker 1: the day off, I just chow off that up. But

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Speaker 1: just given the other guys, some say eric competition here

768
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 1: right right, Like I don't even remember who asked a question,

769
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Speaker 1: but I kind of looked. I'm like, really, you go there, Um, yeah,

770
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: this is I mean, you could say it's not a

771
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: throw for throw competition, but in your head it kind

772
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Speaker 1: of you feel it's it feels a little to me

773
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: like the combine. You know, they run the same routes

774
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: and quarterback one throws and then quarterback two throws it,

775
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: and then quarterback three throws it, and it's not there's

776
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: the star and he throws as many as he once

777
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: and then the other guys come in and try to,

778
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, pick up the scraps, I mean. And it's

779
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: more of a assembly line scouting, as I like to

780
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: say at the combine, where one after another after another,

781
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: and there's more to looking pretty completing passes in shells

782
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: and you know, no pads. But it's a part of

783
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: the evaluation as it is in the college world too,

784
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, seeing these guys back to back

785
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: is useful, Yeah, without a doubt. Um, And I think

786
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: that's you know, and they don't through the prettiest balls

787
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: or the best arm strength, you know, right, right, right, yeah,

788
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: it's it's all about right, right, It's all about results.

789
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that continues to play out here.

790
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: But it's not going to be decided today. It's not

791
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: gonna be decided tomorrow. It's not gonna be decided sometime

792
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: next week. This is gonna be a process where I

793
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: expected that. You know, I don't expect Mike Tomlin to

794
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Speaker 1: name a starting quarterback until maybe after that second preseason game.

795
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure obvious I was. I think it's pretty

796
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: evident and us that are around the team have a

797
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: pretty good feel. But I know this is small potatoes

798
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: in the world NFL coaches, but you want all the

799
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Speaker 1: national folks to be like, oh, there's a big competition, yeah,

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00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, right right. I mean, there's no reason to

801
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: show your hand completely. I told you. I look today

802
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: and the Steelers over under for season win total on

803
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: DraftKings was seven. Seems to be dropping. It went down,

804
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, people are well, they still

805
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: don't know who their quarterback is gonna be kind I mean, yeah,

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00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean I think the second they signed them, they

807
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: had a pretty good idea who their quarterback. Well, yeah,

808
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: because you know, I think they were getting in the

809
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: draft and they were very high on Mitch Drabinski and

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Speaker 1: the one reason why. And I asked Mike Sullivan about

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Speaker 1: this yesterday. UM, let me find the quote here from him. Um,

812
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: but I said, you know, was it Were you looking

813
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Speaker 1: for that uh mobility factory? Where? Yeah, just action? You know,

814
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: you got a guy here who's really there's while you're

815
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: looking there, okay, good? I said, were you looking for

816
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: more of a play action type quarterback? And he said

817
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: that jumped out to me when we were looking at

818
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Speaker 1: him in free agency, when I was looking at Chicago

819
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: tape and even some of the limit reps he had

820
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, how very good he was. The rhythm of

821
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: his footwork, the timing and the timing in the accuracy.

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Speaker 1: There was an awful lot that we could see that

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Speaker 1: was impressive, both under center and in the shotgun. And

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. You know, people say the Steelers don't

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Speaker 1: use any play action. You can run play action out

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Speaker 1: of the shot You can't. It's a little stefferent turn

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00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: your back to the defense. It doesn't quite sell as much.

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Speaker 1: But the other thing too, is if you are going

829
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Speaker 1: to operate under center. I mean, this is not entirely

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Speaker 1: a Bill Walsh's design, but it goes back to that

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Speaker 1: that if you're operating under center, your feet time up

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Speaker 1: with the route. Which when I found that out as

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Speaker 1: a young person, I was amazed how impressive that is.

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Speaker 1: Down to the tenth of a second that Bill Walsh

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Speaker 1: decided from the snap of the ball on a three

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Speaker 1: step drop, you have x amount of time down to

837
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Speaker 1: the tenth of a second to get open and run

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Speaker 1: this route. That's that's coming out, and that's that's how

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Speaker 1: the zone blitz came about. Dick Clebo said, okay, we

840
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: have to we have to combat, right because the ball

841
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: is just coming out. We can't get there in time.

842
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: We can't get down time. So now all of a sudden,

843
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: I'm dropping a defensive end out. Do they think he's coming?

844
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, you know he's he's dropping

845
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Speaker 1: into the passing lane. The quarterback looks, he goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't throw there. Now You've just disrupted all the time.

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Speaker 1: Now it's all ad lib time, right right, But a

848
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Speaker 1: seven step drop is x amount of second and you know, right,

849
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: and from the shotgun, I think you can lose some

850
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: of that, but you also get a better view of

851
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: the field. You don't have to turn your back to

852
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: the defense. So I don't know if there's one way

853
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: better than the other. Um, it was a little embarrassed.

854
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: I was on the radio just now with Stan savagn

855
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: and he asked me, you're embarrassed by that. At least

856
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: what if it was video? I would have been. But

857
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: he asked me, you know, what percentage have they been

858
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: under center and in shotgun? And I told him I

859
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: just really haven't good enough, good enough view. I haven't

860
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: studied it, but I do think we'll see a lot

861
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: more under center than we used to. Yeah, I think

862
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: it's I mean, just because that's what Ben Roethlisberg liked

863
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, that's what he did in college. Now,

864
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: when he was younger and they wanted to run under center,

865
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: he did it, and he he you know he And

866
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: if you're gonna have a fullback with Jerome Bettis, I mean,

867
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense to run out of

868
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: the eye, out of center. And you know, it depends

869
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: who your your back is and what style running game

870
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: you have and all that too. Yeah, he was a

871
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: little lighter footed back then. He was much like right,

872
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, he was probably more mobile than any of

873
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: these guys. I would say, so, Traubinsky has given me

874
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: a second thought, But I would say so, Yeah. I

875
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: mean Ben could move, Ben could move. Yeah, yeah, I

876
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: mean he's a tremendous athlete. Yeah, you know, not just move,

877
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: but break tackles and those kind of things. I mean,

878
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: he was sturdier than any just but anyway I've seen,

879
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,479
Speaker 1: but I mean just in terms of foot speed. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah,

880
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm just watching was doing seven shots right now. I

881
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: can't see who's at quarterback down there. Somebody just overthrew

882
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: me to an overthrow there in the end zone. I

883
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: know yesterday it was Strobinsky and Rudolph who did off

884
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: seven of the seven shots. I see Pickett, I see rudolphs.

885
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: That must be Rabinsky in there now, yeah, because the

886
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: other two are definitely this is gonna be Robinsky. Um. Yeah,

887
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: we're doing our best because it's at the other end

888
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: of the the other end of the field. Yeah, but

889
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: it's definite. Yeah, it's definitely. I see I see Pickett,

890
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: I see Rudolph, I see a lot of con listen,

891
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: unless this is a lot of con the way he's

892
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: kind of standing back there, is he taking a shotgun snap?

893
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah it is. Yeah, there is a lot of cons.

894
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: So he is getting all right, he is now surpassed.

895
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: That's all he was. He fake snapping there. I think

896
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: he was just going through the motions. It was hard

897
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: to harden. I've seen that from these guys too. It's

898
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: just kind of pretend. He's pretending like they're getting the

899
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: snap and then looking to see especially from him, I've

900
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: seen that a lot from because he's not getting the reps,

901
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: so he's taking a mental reperstand Yeah, okay, he knows

902
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: what the play call is, and then he's kind of

903
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: going through it with himself. I think that was always

904
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: a big thing with coaches, who is, if you're not

905
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: in take a mental repretend like it's you getting the

906
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: ball to snap, where would you go with the football?

907
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: You know? When so so uh attractive to them about him? Yeah,

908
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: he was not. Just he has a lot of traits

909
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: that would that makes him be able to fit this

910
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: role better than maybe Joe Blow in three different colleges

911
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: and he started it all three and like you know,

912
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: you're going right in and becoming the starter during COVID y.

913
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: It shows me he's pretty sharp. I'm sure he can

914
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: adjust on the fly. And you know, they don't need

915
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time with him. He is

916
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: gonna learn on his own. And I'm sure he's you know,

917
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: asking questions and things. That's that quarterback room this year.

918
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: So I bet they're just curious. And you know, everyone's

919
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: asked the questions and you're happier Buddy asked it too,

920
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: because you weren't quite sure. And you know, and as

921
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: for a little lol, i'd say his name so poorly.

922
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: But I bet next year at this time he's get

923
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: a lot of snaps. I mean, Rudolph probably won't be back.

924
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: I would imagine both the other two will, but he

925
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: may be the guy getting the most preseason snaps of

926
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: any of them. Next year's probably yeah, you know, but

927
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: but he'll get more so he'll be involved, right, I mean,

928
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: he might be very useful three or four years from now. Yeah,

929
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: So I think there's there's a lot to like there.

930
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: And to your point about you know that so many

931
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: new guys asking questions and stuff that Sullivan did say

932
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: that you know, like he appreciated working with Ben Roethlisberger

933
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 1: because you didn't have to go over those kind of things.

934
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: He said, So now like every time I'm introducing a

935
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: concept or something, I'm really explaining it here because I

936
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: don't I don't have an eytheen year vet. Yeah. Right,

937
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: these guys are. I got two rookies and a guy

938
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: who's new to the syst them, Like, I gotta explain

939
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: exactly what we want here. Yeah, third grade teachers, fourth

940
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: grade teachers have a different approach than you know, doctorate

941
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: level teachers. You know, it's the style of teaching, you know,

942
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: I mean, teaching has a lot to do with it.

943
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: That makes it perfect sense. Yeah, So it ended on

944
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: implying those guys are tom Mark campign't done it just

945
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: got here. He mentioned for Trabisky, this is his third

946
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: court and offensive coordinators, third new system in four years. Yeah.

947
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: I guess that's true. So it's you know, there's a

948
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: lot of change there for coaches in general. Now, right,

949
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: didn't he have two different guys with the Bears. I

950
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: think Fox drafted Fox drafted him. Yeah, and then he

951
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: had to adjust to this four different head coaches Buffalo

952
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: and then come here so right. I mean, that's that's

953
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: so hard on guys. We talked about that with Baker

954
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: Mayfield in the past. Yeah, there's been a handful of

955
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: these of these guys that have had pretty good careers,

956
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: but every year they have a new coach. I mean

957
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: that's really hard. It's not easy, um, and I don't

958
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: know that it's it's as hard as it used to

959
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: be because you know, guys weren't anging teams as much

960
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: as they as they used to. Now you're starting to

961
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: see more guys sign one or two year deals. Yeah, yeah,

962
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: it's it's more of a thing in the NFL because

963
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: they I think the players now realize that, hey, I'm

964
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: not gonna get guaranteed money. It makes no sense for

965
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: me to to sign a four year deal. Sure, I

966
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: mean I could become you know, two years from now

967
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: that the salary caps is gonna be two or fifty

968
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: million dollars and I'll be a free agent again then.

969
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: Like especially at quarterbacks, I mean a lot of quarterbacks

970
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: last a long time without adding to their resume. Well,

971
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: even if you look at the new deals, you know,

972
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: the Watson deal that Kyler Muradia, there were only four years, right,

973
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: I think that my homes ones like, which, by the way,

974
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: is gonna be the biggest bargain in the whole league

975
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: if they don't you to go. I mean, he's at

976
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: some point he's gonna say, hey, they're not gonna there's

977
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: gonna be some six million dollar quarterback eight years from

978
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: now and he's gonna be making you know, forty and

979
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna be like, yeah, we gotta we gotta redo this.

980
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: But what is now and the contract so far everyone

981
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: was blown away when he signed it is going to

982
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: be the bargain of the center, without without a doubt. Anyways,

983
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. I want to get into

984
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: some situational stuff here, Matt. I know you love love

985
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: love to put on your I'm gonna play offensive coordinator

986
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: or defensive coordinator here and look at player personnel packages.

987
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: So we will do that when we come back. He

988
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lally. You're listening to

989
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We are live

990
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: from Steelers training camp here at Saint Vincent College. Practice

991
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: taking place right now on Chuck Noll Field right in

992
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993
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: the updates on that right after this, let's go always

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