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Speaker 1: Yours truly M Greezy myth bleak back with another exclusive
Speaker 1: episode of Rock Solid.
Speaker 2: And I got one of my guys right here.
Speaker 1: I mean when I started this shit, it's one of
Speaker 1: the first guys who interviewed me. So it's an honor
Speaker 1: for me to interview him. He was the voice of
Speaker 1: New York. I watched this guy set Blaze is in
Speaker 1: many different trails in this game. So to be sitting
Speaker 1: here kicking it with him finding out what's the latest
Speaker 1: trail he blazing right now, it's an honor.
Speaker 2: Let's welcome my god Sight for Sounds to the building.
Speaker 2: What's up, my guy?
Speaker 1: So much? How you've been bro, I've been great, healthy, alive.
Speaker 2: That hard right man.
Speaker 3: Before you even start with me, I don't give a
Speaker 3: ship about any of that. I want to say. Here's
Speaker 3: my intro. I've been trying to call this guy. For
Speaker 3: a while I had an old number. I want to
Speaker 3: tell you we.
Speaker 2: Had the rapper number. This is a journalist number. Did
Speaker 2: you did?
Speaker 3: I want to tell you, bro, of all these people
Speaker 3: jumping into this world, you are one of the endless
Speaker 3: to do it. And not only that, your personality has
Speaker 3: already always fit this world. Is the technology and the
Speaker 3: media caught up to what you already how you've been,
Speaker 3: the reason why you're so good on this is the
Speaker 3: reason why we love you. And it just happened to
Speaker 3: just work out perfectly, the timing and what you're doing
Speaker 3: and the stories you.
Speaker 2: Got out here. And it's no negative energy.
Speaker 1: You ain't. That's what I'm saying. Doing that, it's an
Speaker 1: honor for me to be here. Man, than appreciate it, man,
Speaker 1: shout out by God nor because if it wasn't for
Speaker 1: n O R I would not be doing it. Right.
Speaker 1: He saw this, I didn't right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So I got to give all the credit I didn't believe.
Speaker 1: But Yo, let's get to my guy, man, because a
Speaker 1: lot of people know you from Hot ninety seven. Let's
Speaker 1: start before I know you as Kim DJ right right,
Speaker 1: who was little Kim djety seven?
Speaker 3: Yeah, my first job in the industry. Yeah, so let's
Speaker 3: talk about that. How did you get that star that
Speaker 3: queen big? I mean, I think I just was a
Speaker 3: very reliable young DJ in the game, opening up at
Speaker 3: the tunnel for Funk Flax and all those people. And
Speaker 3: then the woman remember Jessica, I used to run a tunnel.
Speaker 3: She was very cool with all of the classic Kim
Speaker 3: and Biggie people.
Speaker 2: So you know, Kim was going.
Speaker 3: Kim was basically leave, not leaving Junior Marfy, but doing
Speaker 3: her solo runners.
Speaker 2: And they needed a d for.
Speaker 3: Her because enough was Biggist DJ and then Junior Mafia
Speaker 3: kind of just whatever whoever Biggies DJ was, so she
Speaker 3: needed her own and I got plugged in and I
Speaker 3: was getting in her first promo run ninety six, three
Speaker 3: hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: A week a week, not a show a week, nigga
Speaker 2: a week. Yo, Kim was pocketing in that bag.
Speaker 3: And to this day, to this day, and I never
Speaker 3: pick it up in a disrespectful way, but Kim on Jacob, y'all,
Speaker 3: motherfucker's still owe me per diem from.
Speaker 1: All those shows, yo, yo deal yo bringing up for diem.
Speaker 1: You know I didn't have a clue what she meant
Speaker 1: until I it took a hard knocked life to all
Speaker 1: when she was like, niggas can't eat without per deal.
Speaker 1: To me, that was just a cool line. Yeah, until
Speaker 1: I really couldn't eat until that per deal. Yo, That
Speaker 1: shit was important. I think it was thirty five a day, yo.
Speaker 1: Y'all was doing good. Hope was looking out for They
Speaker 1: was getting us two seventy five a week. Hard.
Speaker 2: They gotta get two seventy five a week there for shows.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was bad, yo, that's crazy. But it was
Speaker 1: promo time, right, and promo is usually free. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: wasn't getting no monchy. She was on the road doing
Speaker 1: all these little radio station shows and oh so she
Speaker 1: was just even paying you off promo run Yeah oh no,
Speaker 1: kim my bad. She wasn't pocketing a that. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he's a good one. Because it's halfway. That's probably why
Speaker 1: my DJ left. He never got paid for prom I
Speaker 1: ain't get paid.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got paid for promo.
Speaker 3: We got but halfway through when she started getting money
Speaker 3: and still say three hundred a week, I was like,
Speaker 3: don't wait, should go up?
Speaker 2: Because yo went up? Oh my god, that's crazy. That's
Speaker 2: the good.
Speaker 1: So the little Kim play and all that, that's how
Speaker 1: it led into Hot ninety seven. How did that come about? No?
Speaker 3: How ninety seven was through the Tunnel and funk Master Flex.
Speaker 3: So Kim was like, I was lucky because him would
Speaker 3: be working Wednesday through Saturday whatever, and the tunnel was
Speaker 3: Sunday nights, so I could get home and still do
Speaker 3: the tunnel.
Speaker 1: Yo, how was you back there? What?
Speaker 2: Eighteen not twenty nineteen? Twenty? Different?
Speaker 1: Wild, bro, Like, I haven't been to a club like
Speaker 1: that still to this day. Never I'm thinking it'll ever be.
Speaker 1: But that was one of a kind.
Speaker 3: And the nights you were in there, I got tapes, Bro,
Speaker 3: I got nobody had cameras back then.
Speaker 1: The Choke no joke and mist excitement who he got
Speaker 1: his own issues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, choke even fighting for his tapes.
Speaker 1: I ain't mad at these dudes. Man, It's history. And
Speaker 1: it's like, you got to pay that ball.
Speaker 3: Whoever owns the camera technically owns a tench to make
Speaker 3: sure you make an agreement with this guy, whoever your
Speaker 3: guy is.
Speaker 2: Because he looked.
Speaker 1: Fishy, he couldn't look at you, he couldn't even get
Speaker 1: up in the freight, so we ain't worry about him.
Speaker 2: He ain't even figured out the freight problem.
Speaker 3: Bro, I had a little camp quarder and I got
Speaker 3: I still got. I'm looking for an adapter now so
Speaker 3: I could transfer the I got the old tapes and
Speaker 3: the old camera. I gotta transfer to digital.
Speaker 1: You need Yoda guru, tell him what you got here?
Speaker 1: I got that.
Speaker 3: So the Tunnel Nightclub was like the illest club in
Speaker 3: New York City. It was like the music and culture.
Speaker 3: It was the purest of purest street ship. It could
Speaker 3: possibly be if you wanted to know if you had
Speaker 3: the streets, the streets, we had to go to the tunnel.
Speaker 3: This sh it wasn't popping in the tunnel.
Speaker 1: You did not have the street right at all.
Speaker 3: Right, you might have the bougie, you might have the mainstream,
Speaker 3: but the streets.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: So I was in there as a young buck, and
Speaker 2: I was bro.
Speaker 3: I had to play early because what happened in the
Speaker 3: tunnel was they used to DJ. They used to have
Speaker 3: first five hundred girls free. I remember that.
Speaker 1: But it was like from up to eleven o'clock.
Speaker 3: So I had to DJ at like nine o'clock with
Speaker 3: four hundred girls.
Speaker 1: That got in for free holes three thousand, yup, and
Speaker 1: that's when they start charging us eleven hundred to get
Speaker 1: in year. There's four hundred girls in there free free,
Speaker 1: so that I was I played for.
Speaker 3: So I was the man with the R and B
Speaker 3: because you know, I was playing for just girls until
Speaker 3: like midnight.
Speaker 2: So then and then DJ Big Cap would get on,
Speaker 2: resting piece and piece Big Cap.
Speaker 3: Then I would get back on, play a half hour reggae,
Speaker 3: and then Flex would get on and the night would explode.
Speaker 2: Before I let you finish. I just realized something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as a kid, I always wondered how the hell
Speaker 1: bad Boy had so much pulled with Hot ninety seven.
Speaker 1: All of y'all was their DJs. Big Cat DJ for Biggie,
Speaker 1: Enough DJ for Junior, Mafia, DJ for Hot Night for
Speaker 1: litlu Kim. This is why they records played all day y'all.
Speaker 1: This is why y'all had no slack time. We finally
Speaker 1: cracked the code, you know, Puffs said one time.
Speaker 3: Puff said to us all the DJs, he was like,
Speaker 3: he's like, I took every one of your bad Boy
Speaker 3: records out of your create right now, could you do
Speaker 3: a party tonight?
Speaker 1: And we was like this is like ninety eight. We
Speaker 1: was like, be good, but it won't be good.
Speaker 2: But it won't be good.
Speaker 3: You tell me no biggie, no flavoring in your ear,
Speaker 3: no total, no faith, no whatever, nothing damn.
Speaker 1: And we were like, some of these records still play today, man,
Speaker 1: come on one twelve today, you still playing these records today?
Speaker 3: As a DJ, Right, Let's say if I go to
Speaker 3: let's say I'm gonna go play a country party. Let's
Speaker 3: say I get hired to do some weird country shit. Right,
Speaker 3: I'll call up a DJ that knows country music, and
Speaker 3: I'll say to him, what's the Benjamins of country? That's
Speaker 3: our guideline, What's the Benjamins of reggae? What's the Benjamin's
Speaker 3: of house? Give me ten of those, because to us,
Speaker 3: the Benjamins is the record that it tells you the
Speaker 3: top record of a of a certain genre that makes sense.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 1: I get that man from the BX Man as a
Speaker 1: Bronx kid coming up the mixtape era. Like what DJs
Speaker 1: would you say you got your influence from or study
Speaker 1: before you got in the game.
Speaker 3: There's a lot I used to like, Douop is my
Speaker 3: favorite man, that's my guy do I got all his
Speaker 3: tapes not to go on from you.
Speaker 1: You know, he got all his mixtapes ever made as
Speaker 1: an archive where you could buy it as a download.
Speaker 2: He got a flash shot you inted at them do
Speaker 2: Wop tapes.
Speaker 3: He got it develop the illness and the reason why
Speaker 3: I love Douop is the you know, the the music
Speaker 3: everybody had and that was great. Craig G was great,
Speaker 3: ron G chill Will, but Douop had the illis Mike
Speaker 3: game and he corrapt so to me, he was like everything.
Speaker 3: His tapes were the best to me. But like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I get but really I wanted to be a producer first.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so my influence is Premiere, Pete Rock, Clark Kent,
Speaker 3: those guys. I thought you had to DJ to be
Speaker 3: a producer because they were all DJs.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was young, so I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: let me, let me learn how.
Speaker 3: The DJ DJ word DJs that's how you get you know,
Speaker 3: how you know to make certain club bangers. So I
Speaker 3: was following. I thought you had to learn how to
Speaker 3: DJ to be a producer. I didn't want to do
Speaker 3: parties until.
Speaker 2: I got older.
Speaker 3: I just thought like, all right, so you have to
Speaker 3: scratch on your beat, so I have to learn how
Speaker 3: to scratch. I didn't know about parties yet I tried that.
Speaker 3: I didn't know you had to be light handed to
Speaker 3: be a d you're heavy handed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shit was.
Speaker 1: Bad breaking member. These kids don't even got to worry
Speaker 1: about needles breaking. NI could throw it in their little Sarado,
Speaker 1: they little machine. They don't know that even though it
Speaker 1: state member, you had real DJ, you did them shows.
Speaker 1: You used to have to tell stop jumping on the stage.
Speaker 1: You making the record skip like you wanted them DJs,
Speaker 1: you probably had to put the coin on the joint.
Speaker 1: On these, you taped it, tape the corner on the needle, yo,
Speaker 1: so it won't skip. These is the things these young
Speaker 1: rappers today will never ever experience. And I feel like
Speaker 1: that's what takes away from a lot of the talent.
Speaker 1: Agree to disagree or disagree like because I feel like
Speaker 1: back then, you had to go on the fly, like
Speaker 1: as a DJ in the MC, if you would throw
Speaker 1: on the break beat, I just start rhyming. Or if
Speaker 1: we had a show the record skip, there is no yo.
Speaker 1: Started from the beginning. To bring that back, we had
Speaker 1: to catch it on time.
Speaker 2: To catch it right there, like.
Speaker 1: What part of skip to? Okay, we're right here now.
Speaker 1: I don't think these kids will be able to sty
Speaker 1: the problem now with technologies that's too easy, yes, and
Speaker 1: I'm not not.
Speaker 2: I use a lot of the stuff to make it easier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it, but they it seems like the
Speaker 3: kids nowadays. And I don't like talking bad about kids.
Speaker 3: It seems like the kids nowadays don't even try to
Speaker 3: look back to see what it were, like y'all old,
Speaker 3: y'all cook, y'all corny, y'all bulls. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: but that's where you get the talent from them.
Speaker 1: You heard the little homie just saying what is the hip?
Speaker 1: The hard? That all that was whacked? Like? What was
Speaker 1: my man name? Who just said that? Man?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: YACHTI that's he tried to ship on the old scrappers Delight?
Speaker 1: How can you that's blasphemy. They should take his rap
Speaker 1: card for that. That's bad, fathers. I don't play.
Speaker 3: Rappers Delight every day in my car, but I would it,
Speaker 3: Like we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for that.
Speaker 1: That's a fact, none of us would be here today.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't even be having this conversation if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for that record with millions. You have millions, Like it's
Speaker 1: impossible to say that. Like, I get it. A lot
Speaker 1: of these kids music don't resonate with us. It might
Speaker 1: not be for us, but my son, like the kids,
Speaker 1: it resonate with them because you can't. I love my son,
Speaker 1: this is my god. I raised him to the care
Speaker 1: but I cannot tell him that what's the homie that
Speaker 1: got the baby by eighty years there? I'm bad with
Speaker 1: these new niggas to him.
Speaker 2: Playboy CARDI killing hole.
Speaker 1: He like what Playboy Cardi the best? But I can't
Speaker 1: tell him he ain't. That's his eerror, right. I just
Speaker 1: I just hate he respect the old school. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna sit there and tell me. Yeah, but run DMC
Speaker 1: was whack dad. He know we fighting. That's when I'm
Speaker 1: really see if you're a man now, Surety.
Speaker 2: I'm fucking you up.
Speaker 1: The word up. So radio once dictated what I feel like.
Speaker 1: You know, people say it broke what went on in
Speaker 1: New York, but New York dictated what was the world.
Speaker 2: Ninety seven was the key to everything.
Speaker 1: Whatever broke on High ninety seven, everything went everywhere else
Speaker 1: how you feel.
Speaker 3: It changed with the streaming and everything. Even before that,
Speaker 3: it changed with it changed with multi disc CD changes
Speaker 3: in your car because you complainly not just one city,
Speaker 3: you could go through a bunch And then it went
Speaker 3: to MP three's and now streaming, so a lot of
Speaker 3: the tension went away from radio. But here's the thing
Speaker 3: about radio though. Radio was never for people like us
Speaker 3: who are like really really into the music and into
Speaker 3: the culture, because we would go find our ways to
Speaker 3: find other music.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 3: Radio is more of a passive listen to people who
Speaker 3: kind of just like listening to music on the way
Speaker 3: to work and on the way to the store.
Speaker 2: So for them, radio still rocks.
Speaker 1: He's still.
Speaker 3: Like when when real underground hip hop people used to
Speaker 3: yell at me.
Speaker 1: Like, Yo, why are you not playing that?
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, Radio's not for that.
Speaker 3: You're underground, and I always try to mix it in
Speaker 3: where I can. Yes, but underground is a thing. You
Speaker 3: love it so much. I also love it so much.
Speaker 3: But I have a corporate obligation and.
Speaker 2: Order for me to keep my job.
Speaker 3: In order for me, who is an underground backpack nerd
Speaker 3: hip hop guy, I gotta play eight nine, ten mainstream records,
Speaker 3: so I could sneak in my most death, so I
Speaker 3: can sneak in that Pharrol manch sneaking Big l in
Speaker 3: between job Rule and Memphis Bleak.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And that's how we did it. I wasn't mainstream always
Speaker 2: to New York.
Speaker 1: He was sometimes, you know, in a mix, sometimes a
Speaker 1: lot of y'all. Listen, I love my New York City DJs.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna shit on you. I don't take nothing
Speaker 1: personal because it was all rap. It was a career
Speaker 1: like it don't matter if we worked in fucking food
Speaker 1: and beverage.
Speaker 2: You might not have took some of my deliveries this day.
Speaker 1: It don't matter.
Speaker 2: So I look at it the same way. It's not
Speaker 2: it's nothing personal.
Speaker 1: It's the job.
Speaker 2: But a lot of y'all from hot for the for
Speaker 2: the ones.
Speaker 1: That I say didn't look out, the ones that did
Speaker 1: outweigh that when they come down to you, mister c
Speaker 1: rest in peace sonny uh dj Envy. When he was
Speaker 1: over there, fucking Flex looked out when he wanted to.
Speaker 1: We wanted to sometimes FLEXI give me that. Really, I
Speaker 1: ain't fucking with your man right now. I caught a
Speaker 1: lot of that and Hope where Hope said, they don't
Speaker 1: play my hits, so I'll if I'll play they show
Speaker 1: I don't give a ship to him.
Speaker 2: He did.
Speaker 1: I did, because they'll be like, Okay, they don't care,
Speaker 1: we ain't playing hits, so we're gonna stop bleaking bean shit.
Speaker 1: So that's the But we caught him that so I
Speaker 1: couldn't take a lot of shit personal with people. Nah,
Speaker 1: you can't enough? Is my guy off off music like
Speaker 1: man the man. I love him DJ Nothing. I don't
Speaker 1: fuck with him really, I love him though as a
Speaker 1: brother like.
Speaker 2: Man Nothing wasn't playing your shit back then.
Speaker 1: Nigga, let me tell you a story about E.
Speaker 2: I tore him for listen.
Speaker 1: Like that Swiss beats like that, calls me bleak, I
Speaker 1: got it, I got the record. I'm like, what you
Speaker 1: got it? I'm on my way. Wait, Guru up We
Speaker 1: in baseline wake grew ups. Three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: We go down there the Swiss studio. Who in the
Speaker 1: studio with him? Enough enough? The first person say to me, nah,
Speaker 1: bleak this that joint right here that means crazy. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, allright, what record is he? Swiss?
Speaker 2: Play it?
Speaker 1: Like that, tell me if it's like that, it's like that.
Speaker 1: Enough sat there like as if excuse me. Remember you
Speaker 1: know my crew, you know b I. You remember Murder,
Speaker 1: Leaky Proof, all of them. He sat there with me
Speaker 1: like he was one of them. Why, I'm right in
Speaker 1: the rhymes. Yeah that's it, Yo, eat what you think? Yeah, bleek,
Speaker 1: that's it? Did the record? He like, Yo, I'm telling you, Blair,
Speaker 1: I said, go play that for j when played it
Speaker 1: for j J? Like that's the single? Were putting that out?
Speaker 1: Eve there, I got you bleak, We're gonna run. I
Speaker 1: ain't play the record one.
Speaker 2: No, that's not.
Speaker 1: I can't mind me. He ain't playing the record once. Why?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I never ever asked him me either.
Speaker 1: You know I see him and never say yo, bro Yo,
Speaker 1: you walked me off the plank in New York City,
Speaker 1: left me off.
Speaker 2: You gotta bring him up here.
Speaker 1: I got to I want to. I'm mad and went
Speaker 1: the way it went because then now people think I'm
Speaker 1: an interviewer for that, But nah, I need answers back
Speaker 1: in the day, because that's why I like that ain't
Speaker 1: get played and you helped me make it. He probably
Speaker 1: gave me a bar. Probably ain't give him no pub
Speaker 1: that's why you think that was it? Nah, Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's a weird one because with me the
Speaker 1: whole time, Bro and never play, I record got more
Speaker 1: play in Africa than it did in New York City.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you. Maybe it had to be something political. No,
Speaker 1: my g what made you like you was one of
Speaker 1: the first that did this podcast thing? Wan Epstein, like
Speaker 1: you was doing this shit back in the day, like
Speaker 1: the first one to do it. What made you pivot
Speaker 1: from radio into that? And it wasn't a pivot.
Speaker 3: But first of all, I just I don't I hate
Speaker 3: to be like an ass on and correct you on
Speaker 3: your own show. We were the first, Yeah, you said,
Speaker 3: one of the first.
Speaker 2: There is one. There's number one.
Speaker 1: Okay, my bad, my bad, My basting podcast the first
Speaker 1: hip hop podcast ever.
Speaker 3: I didn't know nothing about podcasts. They made me get
Speaker 3: the morning show with Rosenberg. Yes, I remember, never met
Speaker 3: the guy. Ebro put us together. He said, I think
Speaker 3: y'all would be good on the morning show. I said,
Speaker 3: before we start going on the mornings, let's just go
Speaker 3: in this back room right here and just talk to
Speaker 3: each other and record it. And see how we sound together,
Speaker 3: See how we could you know, make sure we click chemistry.
Speaker 3: And he said, oh, we should record it and make
Speaker 3: it a podcast. And this is the early days of
Speaker 3: part There was only like news podcasts right like podcast
Speaker 3: pod comes from iPod, so it was like something for
Speaker 3: the iPod. So I didn't even know that, Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: why podcast. It's the iPod. So we recorded it and
Speaker 3: he would put it out and people would come up
Speaker 3: like nerds, like come come to me, like yo, I
Speaker 3: like the what you're doing with that guy, dude. So
Speaker 3: that's how we got our chemistry. So then we started
Speaker 3: doing the morning show. Never was it a pivot. Podcast
Speaker 3: didn't make no money then, nobody even knew how to.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you no money.
Speaker 1: One thing. As you about the monetization back then, there
Speaker 1: was none. There was done zero because it was.
Speaker 3: No YouTube yet YouTube started. YouTube just started putting podcasts recently.
Speaker 3: But what we got from it, the monotation wasn't money.
Speaker 3: It was the love right bro to this day and
Speaker 3: me and Rosenberg, we got our ins and outs all
Speaker 3: the time. But us two together, two hip hop nerds
Speaker 3: talking about hip hop with hip hop artists, because how
Speaker 3: we got all the artists is because they were coming
Speaker 3: to Hot ninety seven. And then we were saying he
Speaker 3: could do a favor after we do the radio interview,
Speaker 3: can we go back here and talk on our podcast
Speaker 3: a little more in depth? And Bro, we got everybody
Speaker 3: and they told us the illess, illess, illless stories. To
Speaker 3: this day, I watched Nori, I watched Fat Joe, You everybody,
Speaker 3: there's still some stories that were told on one app
Speaker 3: that have not been told anywhere else.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So them shits is stilled that takes this valuable.
Speaker 3: They're not video though, that's the only part audio, so
Speaker 3: we got to wait for the technology to make it,
Speaker 3: you know. But Bro, we had Snoop Dogg right after
Speaker 3: Nate dog died.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: He happened to be on a promo run for something else,
Speaker 3: and he came in the saddest person in the world,
Speaker 3: like he just lost.
Speaker 1: Never seen Snoop like that.
Speaker 3: It was the wildst shit I ever saw. And we're like, yo,
Speaker 3: can we talk to you in the back and he
Speaker 3: was like and like you, we just want to ask you,
Speaker 3: you know, if you're feeling right. He talked to us, Bro.
Speaker 2: It got him out of this. He said, thank you
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 1: You got me out of my fucking depression.
Speaker 3: Because we were asking the thing about wandapp is we
Speaker 3: always asked about the music.
Speaker 1: Drama bro.
Speaker 2: We interviewed Kanye. Kim Kardashian was in the room.
Speaker 1: We didn't give a fuck. Yeah walking walking clip, bro,
Speaker 1: but anything walking anywhere else where she would be, everybody
Speaker 1: would be trying to We didn't get.
Speaker 3: We paid no, no disrespect, We paid no attention to her.
Speaker 3: We were asking him hip how come your drums and
Speaker 3: this song you try to sound like Dyla?
Speaker 1: He's like whoa?
Speaker 3: The same day, if you watched the clip when Kanye
Speaker 3: went on sway, you ain't got the answer. He left
Speaker 3: our show to go do that show, so he got
Speaker 3: the same clothes on.
Speaker 2: It's the same day and we just add nerd that
Speaker 2: nerd hip hop shit.
Speaker 3: So the love of the music and the culture is
Speaker 3: what kept going up alive for so many years. We
Speaker 3: never hit the jackpop money wise, but the love. I
Speaker 3: could see someone in the airport and the way they
Speaker 3: talk to me, I know they're one up fan, yo, bro,
Speaker 3: I see that with me doing this, Like people that
Speaker 3: come up to me now and say something, It's like, yo,
Speaker 3: you listen to podcast like no way, like you know
Speaker 3: who I am? Like my podcast is different, Like I
Speaker 3: don't think, no, how can I say this? Mail delivery
Speaker 3: service guy or transit service guy, police service guy, fire
Speaker 3: min service guy in.
Speaker 1: New York City. Don't tune into Rock Solid because everywhere
Speaker 1: I go they stopping me bleep. That episode was dancing
Speaker 1: it It's like, wow, you listen to this.
Speaker 2: You got great stories, you got great insight. You were there.
Speaker 3: That's the thing with you and with Nori was the
Speaker 3: best about y'alls Like you was you could tell shit
Speaker 3: about when you was there a backstage.
Speaker 2: Nah, that's a fact, Bro, I was there.
Speaker 1: I was trying, man, Like I watched you start, like
Speaker 1: I said, Little Kim to the Hot ninety seven, to
Speaker 1: the one app then the morning show takeover that y'ad was.
Speaker 2: The first ones doing.
Speaker 1: Wre you came on that show. I remember Ye before
Speaker 1: she got her deal. I remember angely ye Bro, when
Speaker 1: she first This was when the Shade forty five. It
Speaker 1: was just the one building in DC, I believe, and
Speaker 1: she just got her I guess it was her slot.
Speaker 1: She would just start her new show. And she said
Speaker 1: to me, they'll believe, it'll be dope if you give
Speaker 1: me a little interview real quick so I could get
Speaker 1: my name up. And I'm like, I got you. I
Speaker 1: think I was one of her first interviews. She gotta
Speaker 1: ad got to show me some love and let him know.
Speaker 1: I was the first. Like you said, it's no first
Speaker 1: of I was the first.
Speaker 3: It was the video where where a whole god was
Speaker 3: pun with punch Angela Yee.
Speaker 2: No, she not no ship.
Speaker 1: He punched angel way.
Speaker 2: He put that's what it looks like.
Speaker 1: That wasn't her in the video.
Speaker 2: There's a video where he looks like he's punching Angela yee.
Speaker 2: But her hair was on fire, yo, yo chill.
Speaker 1: She had the Michael Jackson Yo. God, I ain't never
Speaker 1: seen a video. So it's not a big video. It's
Speaker 1: like grainy. It looks like it looks like like Jay slap,
Speaker 1: yo chill.
Speaker 2: And then people like, yo, what's going on? And she
Speaker 2: was like, my hair was on fire. He was fuck yo, man.
Speaker 1: So but how did the morning show Shane forty five,
Speaker 1: like just doing radio and general change your whole ass?
Speaker 1: Like you said you wanted to be a producer and
Speaker 1: now it's DJ word. Yeah yeah, No.
Speaker 2: When once I got to High Night seven. My beats
Speaker 2: weren't that good, so.
Speaker 1: You never played the beat for me. So I gonestly say,
Speaker 1: you know, as a person, you know like this.
Speaker 2: One, ain't it? Let me chill beat.
Speaker 3: So when I learned radio, I was like all I said, Yo,
Speaker 3: I'm flex Funk mass the flexes. He's my mentor, I'm
Speaker 3: the mentee. I said, you know, he getting up there
Speaker 3: in age. He's gonna retire soon and then I'm gonna
Speaker 3: take his slot.
Speaker 1: And my whole.
Speaker 3: Career, my early career, was trying to get his slot.
Speaker 3: And then after a while I said, this thing ain't
Speaker 3: going nowhere.
Speaker 1: Changed my direction. Bro.
Speaker 2: I remember the day I looked at him, I said, he.
Speaker 1: Ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 3: I better get a personality and learn how to do
Speaker 3: mornings because that's the other most important slot and Angie
Speaker 3: had afternoons. Angie was There's no way I wouldn't even
Speaker 3: attempt to try to be like Angie. So I started
Speaker 3: working on my personality to get the morning show. And
Speaker 3: you know, after years of being in the industry, talking
Speaker 3: my ship, I was always funny to my friends in person.
Speaker 3: I was like, let me try to make that into
Speaker 3: this because I didn't know how to talk.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to DJ. But after a while I did.
Speaker 3: The morning Shawan Shade forty five and Hot ninety seven
Speaker 3: pulled me in back home and it just became like,
Speaker 3: is the greatest, the greatest moments of my life talking
Speaker 3: to actual New York people, going to work, going to school.
Speaker 3: That's the best part of it. The politics, the radio,
Speaker 3: all the shit. That's all bullshit. Talking to people and
Speaker 3: then you see those people out and they're like, Yo,
Speaker 3: you get me going every day, or you helped me
Speaker 3: with this. Are you your story about your aunt made
Speaker 3: me feel this? Like that's that was the key.
Speaker 1: That's dope, man, Because damn y'all even had Joe Button's
Speaker 1: up there doing the morning show, Joe bud before me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little word up man. Yeah, they saw, they saw.
Speaker 3: What was making him popping out hot nice ever saw
Speaker 3: that back then?
Speaker 1: Word up man. They was the first they had everybody
Speaker 1: up there doing the morning show. But then, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people see you do the comedy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but me I saw something before that, after High ninety seven,
Speaker 1: the pivot you did before comedy. A lot of people
Speaker 1: don't give you your props, man, Rihanna wouldn't be Rihanna
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for she got the talent. But you
Speaker 1: had the vision when rock Nation when Rockefeller was.
Speaker 2: Before rock Nation, it was not Rockefeller.
Speaker 1: It was Rockefeller, but he was the president of Death
Speaker 1: Jam Jam. But when rock Nation was being formed, you
Speaker 1: were the first A and R Yeah, HIREDT Yeah. I
Speaker 1: remember you had your own office. I was jealous, the
Speaker 1: motherfucker I the fuckxit forgot office and not the off
Speaker 1: the half word up.
Speaker 2: I used to come up there every day.
Speaker 1: And I remember when you first played me the record
Speaker 1: too ponder replay like this is it, bro, I'm out,
Speaker 1: this is it? We gone.
Speaker 3: I don't get a lot of credit. You know who
Speaker 3: gives me the most credit, Rihanna, And that's the one
Speaker 3: who's supposed to bro.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: She a real one, the realist her recently and she
Speaker 3: fucking yelled in the hallway.
Speaker 2: She's like, everybody respect this man.
Speaker 3: He put me on like I never I had When
Speaker 3: people say you made or discovered, I never discovered her.
Speaker 3: I broke her like I played the record before before
Speaker 3: she had a deal. I helped her get her deal
Speaker 3: at what was def Jam at the time. But I'm
Speaker 3: trying to show you something.
Speaker 1: Like yo, bro, and why not give my credit? But
Speaker 1: you know what else to It's always been funny to
Speaker 1: me about you, by Jake, I gotta honestly say, you
Speaker 1: the only Buerto Rican nigga who wear full fledged rodsklod
Speaker 1: bah bah we in the spot my massive video, his
Speaker 1: nigga was in more hood spots than me. I used
Speaker 1: to see the videos the next day and be like,
Speaker 1: that's safe for sales. DMJ gonna make some monster put
Speaker 1: your light to Zobi like Yo, this nigga is way
Speaker 1: more yarny than me. First of all, yes, for a lot.
Speaker 3: When I found the real dancehall reggae, I jumped there.
Speaker 1: You would. I never put the fake accent. But who
Speaker 1: is in there now saying you know it's natural? It's
Speaker 1: not you, bro, I'm not Caribbean at all. You here
Speaker 1: with me, take me down the Eastern Parkway in the Pere.
Speaker 1: If you in New York, mosself, if you, if you from.
Speaker 3: The hood in New York, you Audi part Caribbean automatic automatically,
Speaker 3: you have a sugar cane, you Caribbean. Look, this is
Speaker 3: the this is the note that jay Z gave me
Speaker 3: to be the an R.
Speaker 1: D. Bro.
Speaker 3: Dang, slim me this note, I'm gonna say, he said,
Speaker 3: he slim me this note. It says start at fifty
Speaker 3: K Senior vice president an R I said fine, no, no,
Speaker 3: I said, ho, you know I learned from you. I
Speaker 3: listened to all your music, listen to all your lessons.
Speaker 3: You know you never take the first off now, o
Speaker 3: g one. I said, Bro, you never take the first
Speaker 3: off of That's all we got.
Speaker 1: I said, fine, said I tried, I tried. I am
Speaker 1: not me neither not with them, Yo, they're the worst
Speaker 1: people to try to negotiate with because they know all
Speaker 1: the hustles, they know all the games. So it's like,
Speaker 1: why are you trying to spend me though? Bro?
Speaker 2: He said, that's all we got.
Speaker 3: I said, okay, fine, that's right, good, We're good.
Speaker 2: I don't give hope.
Speaker 3: Could have paid me zero to me an A and
Speaker 3: R at Rock. But I was known a little bit
Speaker 3: in the Crewan world. I helped Sean Paul get his
Speaker 3: deal damn right. So from that they and I had
Speaker 3: that group Nina sky I put them over so Reaganina
Speaker 3: sky Man was super dope too, bro. So when they
Speaker 3: came with Rihanna. They went to the guy who's known
Speaker 3: for breaking Caribbean music. So I went Bama heard it.
Speaker 3: I said, I like this one. Let's play this on
Speaker 3: the radio so that when you go shop for a deal,
Speaker 3: you already got some more men to them. So then
Speaker 3: the famous story of she went to death Gym and
Speaker 3: they wouldn't let her leave until they did the deal.
Speaker 1: I don't know where they got that story from. I oh,
Speaker 1: they act like she was there by herself.
Speaker 3: No, no, I know the way it sounds now that
Speaker 3: it wasn't like you wouldn't and you were there.
Speaker 2: I wasn't there.
Speaker 1: Who was there? There was all the death jail J Brown.
Speaker 1: Everybody act like it was just J and I know
Speaker 1: he wouldn't. They make it seem like he was strong
Speaker 1: arming her. No, the story is they didn't want her
Speaker 1: to leave. They were trying their best to find the deal.
Speaker 2: Make the best offer.
Speaker 3: The night before, me and your man and this is
Speaker 3: your man, Hove, we had a big argument about that.
Speaker 3: No way in the in the vestibule of forty forty,
Speaker 3: you know from the street little Hallway club, in the club.
Speaker 3: So he's like, what you think, I said, bro, she's
Speaker 3: it I'm telling you, and mind you, I didn't know
Speaker 3: she was going to be there, but I'm just saying
Speaker 3: from what I know in the Caribbean world and major
Speaker 3: she's it. And he goes, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 3: Maybe she don't got the whole thing, and me and
Speaker 3: him started arguing to the point, screaming, to the point
Speaker 3: where his security had to open the door and be
Speaker 3: like ya, you good, and I go he good, he good, Yo.
Speaker 1: But these are security guys I saw every day. You know.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like I was talking to a stranger. But
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. I'm saying it now on Rock Solid.
Speaker 3: I just want my credit in that story, That's right.
Speaker 3: I just want my Why you leave me out? That's
Speaker 3: a fact I don't.
Speaker 1: They definitely put your name in the begainning of the
Speaker 1: Rihanna book because when Rihanna first came from from the
Speaker 1: first time me and her member I met her and
Speaker 1: Tierra Marie at the same time.
Speaker 2: The same time.
Speaker 3: Tiana Marie was signed to Rockefeller, Rihanna signed to death
Speaker 3: jenmis and.
Speaker 1: Then literally Rihanna Ka, I mean Tiara came at three
Speaker 1: o'clock signed. Rihanna came in five five o'clock, by eight o'clock,
Speaker 1: nine o'clock. She signed literally the same day, and when
Speaker 1: we walked out that office. You were on the road
Speaker 1: every day with her, take every radio station, everywhere, all
Speaker 1: the promo runs. When we called it back then, the
Speaker 1: Chitlin Curch. You know what I'm saying. You did, Bro,
Speaker 1: you was moving. I remember Caravana and Toronto. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I got I didn't. I didn't make it that year
Speaker 1: when y'all performed. Oh I got booked that year. That
Speaker 1: was the year they told me, hey, weed charges as cool,
Speaker 1: but you got a little bit too much. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: but weed is legal heat, but I'm not convicted. I
Speaker 1: can't go. I thought it was if I had a felony,
Speaker 1: not just caught cases. They was like, nah am, So
Speaker 1: I never made it to that caravan that when reperformed.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell your l story.
Speaker 3: Was with us the whole time as President of Death Jaim,
Speaker 3: that's all he was on that trip. President of def Jair.
Speaker 3: We always told that we all remember that it was.
Speaker 3: It was Kanye was there and Rihanna and we went
Speaker 3: to all of TV stations, all the of those shows,
Speaker 3: promo shows and then what we did one big show.
Speaker 3: It was like in the it was between these buildings,
Speaker 3: like an alley, but it was like thousands of people.
Speaker 3: And I said, yo, Cardinal Official. It was my brother. Also,
Speaker 3: he's also on Rihanna's first album and he's in the video.
Speaker 3: And I said, yo, can I bring Cardy so he
Speaker 3: could perform with us, like make the show better?
Speaker 2: And they're like, boom.
Speaker 3: So before we even start the show, everybody's talking to Hole. Yo,
Speaker 3: You're going on. He's like, I'm not going on. I'm
Speaker 3: President of Death Jay. This is for them and it's
Speaker 3: for y'all. All right, boom, Rihanna, everybody performed.
Speaker 2: Cardi goes on.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: They went so beyond crazy. This nigga hove goes safe.
Speaker 1: You got p S A, Yo, you lie that? He
Speaker 1: good DAYO. He like, what the fuck is crazy?
Speaker 3: He got PSC? I said, yeah, I got p S
Speaker 3: who don't have FSA. He goes, he goes. I say
Speaker 3: you're gonna do it.
Speaker 2: He goes.
Speaker 1: Around a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yo, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Now usedta have Toronto And that night upside down.
Speaker 3: That night he was they Jay Brown and them, they
Speaker 3: was talking to him. The only problem was I think
Speaker 3: he was already talking to Acon, so they got into
Speaker 3: a little biting one and he went with a con eventually,
Speaker 3: but it was they was trying to get him.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie Man was one of those artists
Speaker 1: that if you as an artist from New York booming
Speaker 1: in the tunnel moving, remember his record wasn't really in
Speaker 1: New York like that, so you were sleep It happened
Speaker 1: to me. I went to Toronto thinking, Okay, Cordon all official,
Speaker 1: I know me. He ain't really the he go on
Speaker 1: before me, right, I got some my nigga. That nigga
Speaker 1: hit that stage. I wanted to give the money back
Speaker 1: to the promoter, like y'all want me to before After that, yo,
Speaker 1: y'all might as well take the money back. I can't
Speaker 1: compete with that, Like what the fuck? I had no
Speaker 1: idea to.
Speaker 2: Day and then give it up right, world up.
Speaker 1: So then I'm you was the first and a lot
Speaker 1: that were discovering that you was the first in a
Speaker 1: lot because from the Rihanna A andr Hot ninety seven
Speaker 1: DJ and Liluke Kenna producing lawn abb fucking Sean Paul putting,
Speaker 1: I didn't have no idea you put Sean Paul on
Speaker 1: Nina Sky fucking Ross bro Ross two. You know I
Speaker 1: made that call, you made the finish and play. That
Speaker 1: was like a tag team. That was tax That was
Speaker 1: tag team because I did the intro. You you was
Speaker 1: missed the ce you finished.
Speaker 2: Yo, but yo, I was.
Speaker 1: Going into comedy. You was doing the comedy ship before
Speaker 1: anybody bro.
Speaker 3: So like, so, first of all, it's weird, right, like
Speaker 3: now my full time gig is comedy. Yes, but I
Speaker 3: still to this point like I don't really I don't
Speaker 3: really call myself a comedian.
Speaker 1: I call myself a hip hop person that does comedy.
Speaker 1: But you wasn't doing it yourself. Then you were promoting
Speaker 1: Buddy first.
Speaker 2: But that was my bro.
Speaker 3: Okay, here's how I got I was the DJ on
Speaker 3: the Chappelle Show. Yes, so the Chapelle shows.
Speaker 1: Got about that note. Yeah, I got my notes. They're
Speaker 1: not that good. They're good, but they Lapel show. I forgot.
Speaker 1: Remember the Chappelle Show got clipped. It's been a long
Speaker 1: time since I watched the Chappelle Show. But we're gonna
Speaker 1: get in there. You this is why you're here.
Speaker 3: So I was a DJ on that and me and
Speaker 3: Dave used to suck around with the crowd, the realist,
Speaker 3: comedian that fuck with hip hop.
Speaker 2: He is rapper.
Speaker 1: I know he wanted to drive, but he probably got
Speaker 1: an unreleased album to me the way Dave moves. He
Speaker 1: got the unreleased.
Speaker 3: He's a rapper that his raps are comedy, but he
Speaker 3: got an entourage, he got the music in the back.
Speaker 1: Everything about him is a rap rapper. Everything you go
Speaker 1: in his dressing room before the show, he is.
Speaker 2: It's when he means rappers. It's like he's meeting his
Speaker 2: kindred spirit.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because he's one of the only guys that
Speaker 1: tell serious shit and it's funny. He don't even really
Speaker 1: tell jokes anymore. It's just real shit.
Speaker 3: It's hard of what we're dealing with in the world today,
Speaker 3: and he feeds it to you in a way that
Speaker 3: you could digest and and laugh in the moment. But
Speaker 3: really it's something to think about. He's the illness, the
Speaker 3: illness bro. So I was the d Jon Rappell show.
Speaker 3: We used to suck around with the crowd before he
Speaker 3: started taping. He can't not do stand up in front
Speaker 3: of him crowd. He can't not so he's like, there's
Speaker 3: a crowd out there. I'm gonna do a little stand up.
Speaker 3: Then we'll start recording the show. So sometimes I fuck
Speaker 3: around with music, play something like the Little John sketchy.
Speaker 3: Know Little John wat that came from us because he
Speaker 3: would talk on stage and I'll be like what yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he would look out. I'm like what. So he's like, yo,
Speaker 3: you know Little John. Yeah, He's like, we want to
Speaker 3: do the sketch. So it came from that bringing up
Speaker 3: Little John. God bless him.
Speaker 1: You know, he lost his son man, So sorry man,
Speaker 1: much love to you and the family. Prayers, see the
Speaker 1: whole family.
Speaker 2: Bro. Yeah, John's my man. Word.
Speaker 1: So then from there, Chappelle goes, yo, you should do
Speaker 1: stand up.
Speaker 3: He said that to me, He goes, you should do
Speaker 3: stand up. I said, why, I'm a DJ. I don't
Speaker 3: even know what he's told about. He said, you got
Speaker 3: the timing. He's like, you don't realize when you do that,
Speaker 3: You're that's a joke. He goes, you got the timing.
Speaker 3: He goes, you talk on the radio for a living,
Speaker 3: you got the personality.
Speaker 1: You should look into it. I'm like, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3: Oh i I'm like, I'm living my life right now,
Speaker 3: the best life.
Speaker 2: And then years leter.
Speaker 3: So I just all these years MTV Hot ninety seven,
Speaker 3: people would just say you funny, you funny on the radio,
Speaker 3: You're funny on MT I'm like, why they keep saying that?
Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, how do I make
Speaker 3: money with this? That's all I'm thinking about, hustling. That's right, Okay,
Speaker 3: you think I'm funny? Well what if I get a
Speaker 3: bunch of funny people in this club on a Tuesday
Speaker 3: night and promote it and you give me the money
Speaker 3: and I'll give you the funny. And that's all it
Speaker 3: was me just being a producer. Dang, I'll get the
Speaker 3: you know, you ended up producing. I got it ended
Speaker 3: up anyway. And then I go up there, I say
Speaker 3: one or two things, and then I bring out a
Speaker 3: real host and a show goes on and everybody's happy.
Speaker 3: And then one day I go up and I say
Speaker 3: something funny just naturally, and I get a laugh, and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh what shit, field shit feel.
Speaker 1: Kind of good.
Speaker 3: And I talked to the comedy like Talent Capone, Rob Stapleton,
Speaker 3: Mark Vieira. I'm like, how do I do that again?
Speaker 3: And they're like, well, you gotta write a joke. And
Speaker 3: then I was, and then bro and then I just started.
Speaker 1: But a lot of these comedians have writers, right, and
Speaker 1: my bucket.
Speaker 3: Some dude, it's different though, Like remember you said enough
Speaker 3: might have gave you a bar.
Speaker 1: I've given many rappers bars.
Speaker 3: Hook ideas finish the line like this, I would could
Speaker 3: say I'm a rapper, but I wrote yeah some part.
Speaker 1: If you write a joke a comedy, you a fucking comedian.
Speaker 1: You might not be the guy to personality to tell it,
Speaker 1: but you could give it to the person who has
Speaker 1: the person Yeah. Some people you might get help. You
Speaker 1: might get a tag. With a tag is like you
Speaker 1: can add this to the joke. You might get some help.
Speaker 1: Some people got writers.
Speaker 3: But a lot of times, like sometimes people say they
Speaker 3: write for Chris Rock, he just likes people in the room,
Speaker 3: and they just yes, yes. So you know, there's some
Speaker 3: some of bullshit that have writers. My thing is like,
Speaker 3: if you don't write your own ship, do you really
Speaker 3: You don't really want to be a comedian.
Speaker 2: You just want to be famous, and that's two different things.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 3: I want to be famous, but I don't care if
Speaker 3: it doesn't happen for me. I love being a comedian.
Speaker 3: So why would I say someone else's ship. That's the
Speaker 3: fun part to think of it, write it, say it and.
Speaker 2: It works to me. That's the whole ship.
Speaker 3: When I used to do my show, all the top
Speaker 3: comedians were like, sife, this don't count.
Speaker 2: This is your crowd. They know you.
Speaker 1: Come to Brooklyn, come to Queens, come.
Speaker 3: To this pool hall we do on Thursdays.
Speaker 1: Shine, oh ship, come, don't do that.
Speaker 2: I was in there, joke bro Let.
Speaker 3: Me tell you the worst people to do jokes for
Speaker 3: Jamaican crowd. They don't laugh at nothing.
Speaker 1: No, no, chill man, they don't laugh. They ain't playing
Speaker 1: the gay jokes for sure. None of that l g
Speaker 1: B t Q y knew you. I used to be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm Puerto Rican. I need a lot of pussy, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all y'all, Oh yeah, no fire, They not with nothing
Speaker 1: for yo.
Speaker 3: Here's here's what makes me real. I went back right,
Speaker 3: I went back again. I went back again. Got one life.
Speaker 3: Oh God made it one more.
Speaker 2: One more.
Speaker 1: That's New York for you think you could be the
Speaker 1: hottest rapper in New York City, do a show and
Speaker 1: these motherfuckers is in there like this. Yeah, it's the
Speaker 1: worst while you perform, Man, you looking like am I
Speaker 1: killing it? Like? I think? So they know the record,
Speaker 1: but nobody knew niggas like this, because today niggas is
Speaker 1: two flies on the five thousand dollars shirt, ten thousand
Speaker 1: dollars jeans, twenty thousand dollars niggas. I'm not wrinkling my
Speaker 1: clothes for you. I came to see you perform, not
Speaker 1: mean you.
Speaker 2: To watch people.
Speaker 1: I came to see you. You jump around it Dad,
Speaker 1: It's not me man, yo. So being the producer DJ
Speaker 1: who pivoted into all these worlds, was ever a time
Speaker 1: that you felt radio ever had you boxed? Then? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure? The morning show? Oh wow, I want
Speaker 2: to show. Have me boxed in.
Speaker 3: The Morning show was a rough time for me because
Speaker 3: I was locked in every day Monday through Friday, waking
Speaker 3: up at four am. And even if I did comedy
Speaker 3: or DJ the night before, I'm getting home three o'clock shower,
Speaker 3: go right back to work and then bro. Even when
Speaker 3: I was on radio, I would still do comedy. I
Speaker 3: would I would do stand up, I would DJ, I
Speaker 3: would go to radio, and then I still worked at
Speaker 3: rock or I worked at with the Neptunes for a while,
Speaker 3: Like I never stopped.
Speaker 2: I kept other jobs. I was on MTV, so I
Speaker 2: would say.
Speaker 3: But the only thing I didn't like about Hot ninety
Speaker 3: seven morning show was the fact that I was stuck
Speaker 3: every day from Florida whatever time. And then like I
Speaker 3: couldn't even go away on the weekends because I couldn't
Speaker 3: fly back Monday.
Speaker 1: I had to be on the edge, so I had
Speaker 1: to come back Sunday, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So, like I would try to ask comedians if I
Speaker 3: could open for them on the road and be like,
Speaker 3: I could leave right after the radio, like if it
Speaker 3: was like Boston or Albany or DC, I could drive
Speaker 3: and then leave it right back. So a lot of
Speaker 3: people gave me chances like that, but I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, how do I get on State.
Speaker 1: I gotta do it for free. Ask so if I
Speaker 1: could open up.
Speaker 3: Right so I'll just be running around and the morning
Speaker 3: show it definitely like the last two years, I felt like.
Speaker 1: I was in prison. I just wanted to get out
Speaker 1: of there, damn.
Speaker 3: And I never thought I would feel that way because
Speaker 3: Hot nine seven was my life. And then the way
Speaker 3: I left was very unceremoniously it was.
Speaker 2: Just a nasty just jetted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a nasty, weird situation. There was new bosses.
Speaker 1: They didn't know the work I put in all over
Speaker 1: all those years.
Speaker 2: They didn't know.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: Remember we had the blackout in New York City.
Speaker 1: I could not forget Bro.
Speaker 3: The blackout happened. I happened to be around Hot They're like,
Speaker 3: is anybody around the station? I said, I am. I
Speaker 3: went up there, Bro. I was on the air for
Speaker 3: like twenty eight hours or some sh d like no
Speaker 3: one could get in because there was the ferries, the
Speaker 3: subway fucked up, but there's high nice had a generator.
Speaker 3: So I just went up there in a blackout and
Speaker 3: just rocked the whole time.
Speaker 2: That's who I was.
Speaker 3: Everybody knew me as being like a soldier, super early,
Speaker 3: leave late, never complain. And then how I left was
Speaker 3: just like it was just nasty. And then you know
Speaker 3: here since we're here, hello, og Wan saved my life,
Speaker 3: Bro all the time, he said. O g Wan said, Yo, listen,
Speaker 3: this is like after I left Rock. I left rock
Speaker 3: Lot familiar the label because I got the job on MTV,
Speaker 3: and whole was like, yo, look you can always work
Speaker 3: here behind the scenes. There's an opportunity for you to
Speaker 3: go to be in front of the camera. You should
Speaker 3: take that hold told me that. Then that's when rock
Speaker 3: Nation started and Og was like, Yo, when you leave hot,
Speaker 3: come here, we'll manage you.
Speaker 2: You're under the rock umbrella.
Speaker 3: And then we go from there and to this day
Speaker 3: like whatever, Yo, whatever does wan a whole.
Speaker 2: Needs, I'm there and vice versa.
Speaker 1: That they'll drop it off for any That's what people
Speaker 1: don't understand about them, them three, with all the power
Speaker 1: and success they have, they still will go to extra
Speaker 1: man in their homies in one of us like and
Speaker 1: that's the thing I think get underappreciated from gods.
Speaker 3: Of that magnet that when all this shit fucking I listen.
Speaker 3: I'm loyal to a fault, but my loyalty comes from
Speaker 3: experience and situations. I've been in the ship that people
Speaker 3: talk about hole like, oh, don't I don't really fuck
Speaker 3: with him like that. I see all those people when
Speaker 3: he walks in. All the bitch comes out of it,
Speaker 3: all of it. That Nigga's presence in a room. I've
Speaker 3: seen people who are absolutely haters straight up turning like, oh.
Speaker 1: Jesus, yo, yo, you think I get a picture, it's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: my man, you just just just five minutes ago talking
Speaker 1: shit word up like that's the way I can't stand.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't even believe it. That's why when I.
Speaker 2: Hear I see it and hear it, it's like I
Speaker 2: just not realize because it's like, because if he.
Speaker 3: Walk in this room, you don't want to get that
Speaker 3: hold me Nobody. There's not a person in the world
Speaker 3: who don't want to picture with Jay's That's a fact
Speaker 3: that ever said anything.
Speaker 2: Nah, he don't. He ain't the king. He really do this?
Speaker 1: Do that?
Speaker 2: He ain't the best that you bullshitting? You lying.
Speaker 3: But the problem I have with Hove is since nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety six, I'm from the Bronx, He's from Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: You're from Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: There's always a weird sarcasm battle we what with be
Speaker 1: and him. When people see us together, they think we
Speaker 1: hate each other because all we.
Speaker 2: Do is talk the most Son.
Speaker 1: But that's that's New York though.
Speaker 2: But Son is being I don't know what happened. It's
Speaker 2: not all we just love the pop shit.
Speaker 1: Though. I try to tell people that he whole pop
Speaker 1: shitter straight from the bricks. Bum ass, nigga, you ain't
Speaker 1: doing nothing out of here. Niggas don't know that side
Speaker 1: the whole.
Speaker 3: There's there's a there's a group of people in New
Speaker 3: York City. They come from outside. They're on the stoop
Speaker 3: on the sidewalk on the corner. These are called professional
Speaker 3: ship ship.
Speaker 1: Talkers, like like all that gold medal ship talkers.
Speaker 3: Yo, this guy see me in San Francisco. I ain't
Speaker 3: seen him in a while. He's kind of big. Now
Speaker 3: he's like a billionaire status. He's kind of moving differently.
Speaker 3: I was doing show with Dave Chappelle. He comes backstage
Speaker 3: him o G and death Hole sees me, lights up,
Speaker 3: lights up, gives me the biggest hug sun. I ain't
Speaker 3: seen him so long, bigg as hull love. I count
Speaker 3: down in my mind. I got about eight seconds to
Speaker 3: this before he talks ship that's right. Boom boom bo
Speaker 3: gives me, yo, you you're doing good, bro. You was
Speaker 3: good out there.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Then he goes, hey, days, our little guy made it.
Speaker 3: Look at our little guy, A little god made it, yo.
Speaker 3: I said, Yo, ain't your fucking little guy.
Speaker 1: No, you little guy, that's right. One look at the
Speaker 1: little guy he made it made it. I'm like, yo.
Speaker 2: Fuck. So people are looking over. They didn't see the
Speaker 2: embrace part. They just see me going yo, shut the
Speaker 2: fuck up.
Speaker 1: So now they they yo, I'm telling you that's the
Speaker 1: side niggas don't know of whole man. I love that
Speaker 1: he don't even show it now. He keeps it personal
Speaker 1: with the with the fan. It's not on camera and
Speaker 1: all that. So it's the mystique about the mostik is
Speaker 1: crazy Hove is the gold medalist ship.
Speaker 2: So the best time Rock.
Speaker 3: Nation I'm in the office is when I was working
Speaker 3: for title Damn title the title first started.
Speaker 1: Word up.
Speaker 3: I was working with him. Bro, I'm in the office.
Speaker 3: He was on the Remember he was on the floor above.
Speaker 3: He's still up there the ninth. Okay, I was on
Speaker 3: the No No, before that forty. It was like thirties
Speaker 3: or forties before that office.
Speaker 1: Oh before the oh you're talking about the oh forty,
Speaker 1: he was on forty. We want thirty nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I just happened to be in the reception area
Speaker 3: getting a package. He come out the elevator. He come
Speaker 3: in the room, I mean in the in the in
Speaker 3: the front reception area. So I look up, I see
Speaker 3: him I give him the head nod, right, he got
Speaker 3: a serious face.
Speaker 2: Hu. So he walk in. He walked past me.
Speaker 3: He gets halfway down the hall, stops, turns around and goes, yo.
Speaker 2: I go, yeah, he goes, when I walk in, show
Speaker 2: me love, Yo, shit, I said.
Speaker 3: I said what He goes, I'm still hole nigga, right,
Speaker 3: I'm still jay Z show me love when I come
Speaker 3: in this motherfucker, I said, Bro, we at work. I'm
Speaker 3: leaving you alone, right because everybody come up to you
Speaker 3: like picture order god da da da da. I say,
Speaker 3: you look at you doing nah nah show me love.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, you're sick.
Speaker 2: Fuck bro, I'm.
Speaker 1: Telling you, yo, this is crazy. Man. I went up
Speaker 1: there yesterday. I had a meaning in the office, right,
Speaker 1: and I go see wall just kicking it with og
Speaker 1: og Like Yo, I've been meaning to call you. What
Speaker 1: I do? You did a lot, man. You be saying
Speaker 1: some shit. Man, we gotta have a talk. You saying
Speaker 1: too much. I don't know he didn't say what I
Speaker 1: said or didn't say, so I'm still waiting for that call.
Speaker 1: Like god, damn, I did something I don't even know
Speaker 1: if I did.
Speaker 2: I probably did something good. This might be the good call, yo.
Speaker 1: We got to talk. But it just sall the gangster.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It might be one you're telling the real.
Speaker 1: Story like he gave me. He gave me a little
Speaker 1: idea of something that I'm gonna try because you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people write books, do documentaries. Nobody told
Speaker 1: their story in this type of sec you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, where you can go back and replay.
Speaker 2: It's almost like rose at a Stone visually.
Speaker 1: Its audio audio history, word oral history. I'm gonna run
Speaker 1: through it, man. But back to you, my g do
Speaker 1: you think let's ask your opinion on radio. Do you
Speaker 1: think New York radio still holds the cultural impact it did? No?
Speaker 3: Damn you answered that quick. I mean, I'm not saying
Speaker 3: it's dead or it's over. It's just not the same impact,
Speaker 3: not the same it has. It still has impact, but
Speaker 3: not the same.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think we dictate the mass is no more.
Speaker 3: No, it's impossible. It's algorithms now. But I'll tell you
Speaker 3: this though the first algorithm. Here's the problem with music
Speaker 3: nowadays opposed to in our heyday, even though we still popping.
Speaker 2: The beauty of radio.
Speaker 3: When funck Master Flex debuted a song everybody was listening
Speaker 3: at the same time. That created an energy. If she
Speaker 3: was in your car and your crib and the store, here,
Speaker 3: the new whatever, whatever song, the new this, the new that,
Speaker 3: and you bump into somebody. Yo, you said it right then?
Speaker 3: Did you hear the I just heard it. It created
Speaker 3: more of a like a like a fury, right, so
Speaker 3: like it flexes on a ten of night and you
Speaker 3: on your way to the club and then you hear
Speaker 3: it that night.
Speaker 1: You it's energy.
Speaker 2: Now the way.
Speaker 1: Music is released, it's too personal.
Speaker 3: Everybody listening by themselves at different times and headphones.
Speaker 2: Shit still looks big with the numbers.
Speaker 3: Now the biggest thing is your views on YouTube or
Speaker 3: your views on Spotify. How many listens you got, how
Speaker 3: many streams? Yes, that's great, but it's flat. They don't
Speaker 3: have that effect. The greatest Memphis Bleak moment to me
Speaker 3: is I tell this all the time to people. There
Speaker 3: was a night you was booked at Club Speed. Do
Speaker 3: mister c you drove on the block, you had a
Speaker 3: new Bends by yourself.
Speaker 1: Your Paul King show, p K. He talked about that.
Speaker 1: I know exactly had he talked about this club Speed.
Speaker 3: Club Speed was after the tunnel, much smaller, same energy. Yep,
Speaker 3: you pulled up in front of the block Memphis Bleak.
Speaker 3: You co hopped out of the bends, and the streets
Speaker 3: went crazy.
Speaker 1: You couldn't even get into the building.
Speaker 3: Why you were by yourself. We never knew, I thought
Speaker 3: people and the door was literally right off the streets
Speaker 3: and right there. Yeah, so the spot in front was
Speaker 3: safely so literally you could have just came out and
Speaker 3: went right in. You couldn't make it to the door. No,
Speaker 3: people went fucking crazy. And that's what I missed, the
Speaker 3: beauty of the the the broadcast.
Speaker 1: I feel, I feel like you know why that alone.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the streaming that stop that. I
Speaker 1: think this is rappers don't go outside anymore. That too,
Speaker 1: they don't touch the people. Like back then, we had
Speaker 1: the record stores to do the in stores, and when
Speaker 1: the record store stopped, we had the closing stores, the
Speaker 1: foot lockers, the dtlrs, all of those spots where we
Speaker 1: would pop up her grandma, take a picture with the baby.
Speaker 1: We took pictures with nieces and nephews who grown now,
Speaker 1: so they were able to grow that love for us
Speaker 1: and appreciation. Like man, they came to the town. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna show some love to them. These artists today you
Speaker 1: only see them on social media TV. Then when you
Speaker 1: go to the show, you behind the velvet rope, you
Speaker 1: don't even get social.
Speaker 3: Media does seem like a better idea because you reach
Speaker 3: more people at once, but you don't touch or you
Speaker 3: don't touch them, and that's I think that's something that's missing,
Speaker 3: and you can.
Speaker 1: You could do both. To me, it's like you could
Speaker 1: do both. It's like having PlayStation Network or Xbox and
Speaker 1: you're saying, these are my friends, but they're in the
Speaker 1: virtue where you never never met them. Yeah, like yeah,
Speaker 1: not your friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I think people do gotta go outside a little more,
Speaker 3: have to find outside. It's scary sometimes.
Speaker 1: Nah, man, it's listen, listen, you reap what you sew.
Speaker 2: If you remember, birds carry a lot of weight.
Speaker 1: Man. So if the tongue speaks negativity, the ass gonna
Speaker 1: follow negativity. Man. If you speak positivity and believe positive,
Speaker 1: negative don't have no way to find you. But if
Speaker 1: you just a negative nancy ass nigga, negative shit gonna
Speaker 1: find its way to you.
Speaker 2: I've been in this game thirty years.
Speaker 1: Knock on wood, bro I ain't never been in no
Speaker 1: club fight, no club incident. I've been all over the
Speaker 1: world ten times. You know where I got into. My
Speaker 1: only issue in this rap shit Marcy fucking projects. I
Speaker 1: knew this. It's only the niggas you know, unless you
Speaker 1: go out of town in front or some niggas you
Speaker 1: don't know. But the niggas you know, like hey, car
Speaker 1: you oh, you from here. You're not supposed to have
Speaker 1: made it without us. Get your ass back in the
Speaker 1: sandbox with us.
Speaker 2: So you deal with that.
Speaker 1: But going around, I always been aids to the believer.
Speaker 1: Think of speaker, you know, a music. We're gonna speak
Speaker 1: what we live and what we know. But majority of
Speaker 1: the time, I've never been one of those negative dudes.
Speaker 2: Like yo, watch out, the killers is outside.
Speaker 1: Man, y'all gonna have to show me.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna tell you an example of how the
Speaker 3: positivity could lead to negative. Right recently, about a year ago,
Speaker 3: I went to this club in Brooklyn. This my boy,
Speaker 3: he's a DJ from London, he moved to the States.
Speaker 3: He said, y'all got this party.
Speaker 2: You never come. I got this party you never comes
Speaker 2: in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Like Williamsburg area. I said, oh, Williamsburg is safe.
Speaker 1: Let me go out there. No, it's not.
Speaker 3: I go out there. I go to the party. I
Speaker 3: go inside for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 2: These two kids, like three kids come up to me.
Speaker 2: They're young.
Speaker 3: They're like, yo, you CYfer sounds. They're like nineteen, you
Speaker 3: CYfer sounds. I say yeah.
Speaker 2: They're like, yo, you know my pops.
Speaker 1: No, it's good. Long. I don't like what people say.
Speaker 3: Goddamn, like you know about pops? I said, who's your pops?
Speaker 3: He told me, g nigga. I said, oh, yeah, that's
Speaker 3: my man. I said, tell myself.
Speaker 2: What's up? He said, yo, yo, we're here to make
Speaker 2: sure you good.
Speaker 1: You good?
Speaker 2: I said, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bro.
Speaker 3: Two of them lift up, they shirts. They both got hammers.
Speaker 3: I said, they're like, yo, eighthing you need, we got
Speaker 3: you o G. I said, oh, thank you, well, thank
Speaker 3: you bye.
Speaker 1: That's right, Yo. Listen, I'm one of those guys. Don't
Speaker 1: be a nigga. I don't know, and show me the gun.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be around you.
Speaker 2: Nigga.
Speaker 1: Get the fuck away from me with that pistol.
Speaker 2: I had a great time, bro, I warned up.
Speaker 1: It's time to go, Bro. Like and they showing love.
Speaker 2: But I said they ain't. Why whatever we need now?
Speaker 1: At nineteen I say, from nineteen or about twenty eight,
Speaker 1: that kind of love them niggas would have been. I'd
Speaker 1: have got them a Rockefeller chick. You damn nigga, you
Speaker 1: got what y'all too?
Speaker 2: Nigga?
Speaker 1: What let's go to Jacob right now? You kidding me?
Speaker 1: They'd have been recruited. But this me. Now, y'all niggas
Speaker 1: go that way, we going this way like, I ain't
Speaker 1: with it, so I avoid a lot of that shit.
Speaker 1: But let's ask you Ra as one of the best DJs, Yes,
Speaker 1: from Hot ninety seven doing reggae dance tall to doing
Speaker 1: the comedy everything, do you feel like you get the
Speaker 1: respect or to just do you deserve.
Speaker 2: Out of all the pears in the game? One hundred percent?
Speaker 1: Oh shit, he was gonna say one hundred percent. Yes, Yo.
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened now. I want to say
Speaker 3: that I want to preface this. I love my life.
Speaker 3: I love everything I true, I love who I am,
Speaker 3: I love where I am. But I always wonder why
Speaker 3: I get left out of so many stories and situations.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I must have missed a step
Speaker 3: somewhere and again.
Speaker 2: This is not regret. I have no regrets.
Speaker 3: I just wonder why I don't get the love or
Speaker 3: credit that I from all the things I did.
Speaker 1: You put a lot into this game. Ten years hot
Speaker 1: in ninety seven, No. Seventeen was an intern, seventeen years
Speaker 1: Rihanna fucking played a major part and with the Ross
Speaker 1: getting a deal, major part. Nina Sky, major part, Dance Tall,
Speaker 1: major part of Dave Chappelle's career, major part in the
Speaker 1: cis like, Bro, you did a lot. I don't think
Speaker 1: people forgot or don't appreciate you. My personal opinion from
Speaker 1: a friend's perspective, looking, I think.
Speaker 2: You don't stay long.
Speaker 1: Enough to receive your flowers.
Speaker 2: That makes it.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is, because soon as you
Speaker 1: about to get your flowers, you like, yo, safe that
Speaker 1: nigga killing it. Niggare like, oh, I got a new
Speaker 1: building over here, y'all. Yo, y'all just saw me over here.
Speaker 1: Kyrie's nigga, I build carousels. Now you don't get here.
Speaker 1: You're like yo, I just was telling him he's doing
Speaker 1: steing over here.
Speaker 2: That's what I think it is.
Speaker 1: You you move quick because You're the first that did
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot, but you got off it so
Speaker 1: fast that I don't think people remember. They gonna remember
Speaker 1: now because a lot of people don't go back. You know.
Speaker 1: That's what I love about these podcasts, because people my
Speaker 1: fact check, this is my this is what I'm scared
Speaker 1: of God for big. I see a lot of our
Speaker 1: friends pass away recently. I'm so nervous about passing away.
Speaker 1: And then everybody goes on stage and tells all.
Speaker 3: This ship yo, and they go, I didn't know that
Speaker 3: safe did that? Say Okay, hey, talk about it. Now,
Speaker 3: give me my flowers now, flowers please? Why I still
Speaker 3: smell them?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: But again, I have no regrets. I'm just saying I
Speaker 3: am a trailblazer. I am a four A fore runner
Speaker 3: in a lot of different worlds.
Speaker 1: But I love what I do. Bro Like.
Speaker 3: I did a party after the super Bowl after Dave Chappelle.
Speaker 3: We did an after party, and we did two nights
Speaker 3: after party. One night I was up in a balcony
Speaker 3: far from everybody. I couldn't see the vibe.
Speaker 1: It sucked.
Speaker 3: I felt rusty. I said, Dave, if we're gonna do
Speaker 3: this again, I gotta be down there.
Speaker 2: That's what the DJ. He goes.
Speaker 3: He tell the people, I said, put it down here
Speaker 3: to bro DJ for three hours, flawless, flawless.
Speaker 1: Like I was in it.
Speaker 3: Man, you can't be up there, spectator. I was like,
Speaker 3: I still got it because I don't J. I don't
Speaker 3: DJ as a as a job anymore. But I also
Speaker 3: have this DJ Should I do it?
Speaker 1: Comedy bro? I need a credit for that too. I
Speaker 1: DJ while doing stand up. That was crazy. That's why
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, right, do you see comedy
Speaker 1: as like your final Like that's it. That's where I'm
Speaker 1: stopped this way.
Speaker 2: I'm a retired do I.
Speaker 3: Mean according to how you talk about me?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Probably not.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The next after this interview, you might be on
Speaker 1: some I.
Speaker 2: Never My dream is my when I'm when I say I.
Speaker 3: Made it, it's I'm doing improv comedy one night right
Speaker 3: where that's when we make the ship up on the
Speaker 3: spot at a show running for like seven years. With that,
Speaker 3: then I do a comedy club, like let's say we're
Speaker 3: in Minneapolis, whatever, I do improv one night, comedy club,
Speaker 3: the whole weekend, DJA after party, and on Sunday do
Speaker 3: some kind of charity philanthropic work in the community.
Speaker 1: That's it. But I can do that now.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to be sold out when.
Speaker 1: I like, I don't want half a packed I want
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: I'm getting a lot of half packed comedy clubs and
Speaker 3: I'm blessed to get them, but I just want that
Speaker 3: to be full. But that's that's the dream. And like,
Speaker 3: I'm never not hip hop. Hip hop. Hip Hop is just.
Speaker 1: My culture, my religious who I am.
Speaker 3: Everything zoos off me is hip hop first because it's
Speaker 3: just who my DNA is. But then I take that
Speaker 3: into this comedy world. But now I would like to
Speaker 3: do TV shows, movies, all that stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, it's all connected. It's the right time we got.
Speaker 1: You know, they got a whole department up at the
Speaker 1: building for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh and yeah, I got just got the ideas. They
Speaker 1: got no pitch department. Let's go they pitch it the
Speaker 1: nation getting everything. Man, I'm about to I'm about to
Speaker 1: go steal me a position up there, like the fuck
Speaker 1: I'm just do say, Man, I know how to pitch too.
Speaker 3: The fuck I can pay how to go now, yo,
Speaker 3: because dazz in them just saw me rock San Francisco,
Speaker 3: So you gotta go while it's because.
Speaker 1: If it cool off, they'll be like, what you did,
Speaker 1: what you've been doing last summer? Then now they want
Speaker 1: to check the analytics. Hey, d you're the algorithm because
Speaker 1: niggas hit you with that. Now you're the agarithm, Like,
Speaker 1: let's chuck you out, like what the fuck is the agorithm?
Speaker 1: I'm right here like like, but yo, let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, like before we you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I cannot say this to you because we people ask
Speaker 1: me this. What would be the best advice If you
Speaker 1: had to give one piece of advice to any upcoming DJ, comedian,
Speaker 1: any A and nor like because you wore many different
Speaker 1: hats A and R comedian radio personality, just DJing or producing.
Speaker 1: If you had to give one piece of advice to
Speaker 1: anybody that you say this that you wish you would
Speaker 1: have heard when you started, what would it be.
Speaker 2: It's not that I wish I would have heard, It's
Speaker 2: how I lived my life. I a lot of people.
Speaker 3: I come from, no connections, no family in the industry, Nobody.
Speaker 2: Even you had hole, you know, I mean, I wasn't
Speaker 2: a hole back then.
Speaker 1: It was not whole. Back we was making gift baskets.
Speaker 1: They forgot about that, buying Godiva chocolates and all this
Speaker 1: we had to put. You ever had put niggas use
Speaker 1: fake grass or Easter they ever used fake grass just
Speaker 1: on the regular Monday, Like, hey, this for the DJs.
Speaker 1: So don't think hove always been hole.
Speaker 2: That's what I don't people.
Speaker 3: Initially work for free. You could get so much done
Speaker 3: if you get around somebody and work for free. I
Speaker 3: did a lot of bullshit work. I got sandwiches. I
Speaker 3: had to wait in the car. I waited in the
Speaker 3: car when there was no phones, no YouTube, no serious,
Speaker 3: no fucking streaming, was in the car listening to the
Speaker 3: hopefully BLS was playing a good song at the time.
Speaker 1: I don't say work for free for people always get caught.
Speaker 3: Up like I'm not saying forever, but I'm saying to
Speaker 3: get your foot in the door, off of your services right,
Speaker 3: be early, stay late, telling you a true die hard soldier.
Speaker 2: If you want to be an A and R, go
Speaker 2: be a A and R.
Speaker 3: Go Find some artists, package them up, make some songs,
Speaker 3: give that package to the you know, to a label
Speaker 3: or a manager or whatever. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And then if you get cut out. Understand it was
Speaker 3: the experience. Nah, clap that shit up, Oh, clap it out, Okay, experience.
Speaker 2: I take part of no criminal way.
Speaker 1: You talk about getting cut we're too old to get
Speaker 1: cut out. Clap that shit up.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the young people.
Speaker 3: But like yo, work like work in a club, DJ
Speaker 3: for free and kill it to the point where when
Speaker 3: the other DJ's late, you gotta stay on an extra hour.
Speaker 3: When I used to DJ in the tunnel, it was
Speaker 3: from nine to ten and Big Cap was supposed to
Speaker 3: get on a ten. Big Caps showed up, saw I
Speaker 3: was there. Next week, came at ten thirty, next week
Speaker 3: came at eleven. I was like, I'm supposed to be
Speaker 3: here an hour, rocking, rocking, rocking to the point where
Speaker 3: Flex was like yo, like your style comeing to the
Speaker 3: rail station helped me out.
Speaker 2: All that came from that. I eventually got my money.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, if you have no other way
Speaker 3: in people need stuff done, man like off of that services,
Speaker 3: get your foot in the door.
Speaker 1: That's dope too that you gave Flexes props, because you
Speaker 1: know a lot of niggas been saying flex getting niggas
Speaker 1: clip there told about Flex got niggas hired. Bro. You
Speaker 1: know that's why I say we live in the world
Speaker 1: where negativity outshine positivity.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you about Flip one thing. All this
Speaker 3: shit happened when people got fired. Whatever Flex plays the game,
Speaker 3: that's a whole other level. There's a DJ behigh ninety seven.
Speaker 3: He called me and said, Yo, I don't know what
Speaker 3: to do people getting fired.
Speaker 2: Da da da.
Speaker 3: I said, how's the new boss? He goes The new
Speaker 3: boss is cool? I like the new boss? I said,
Speaker 3: how often you talk to him? He's like I talked
Speaker 3: to him like once a week. I called him d D.
Speaker 3: I said, Flex talks to him every hour on the hour,
Speaker 3: even on Sunday's right. You gotta work, man. Everybody spots
Speaker 3: up for taking if you slack it. That's how I feel.
Speaker 3: You gotta solidify your spot.
Speaker 1: Bro. He don't play that ship. He don't play that ship.
Speaker 3: He he stays on top of the people he gotta
Speaker 3: stay on top of.
Speaker 1: And delivers the ratings.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, when it comes to radio,
Speaker 3: the ratings is the only thing that matters. His ratings
Speaker 3: is sky high because he shows up and he does
Speaker 3: the work. Yes, he does play a lot of polities
Speaker 3: in the back.
Speaker 1: I just like that man, because you know, we live
Speaker 1: in the world where people be so quick the shoot
Speaker 1: at you then pull out the flowers for you.
Speaker 2: So I respect that of you. Like what's next?
Speaker 1: For safe? What you want to tell people? What's next?
Speaker 1: Anything coming up next? Don't take my carousel out there
Speaker 1: next week like carousels now.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be at the end of the Brooklyn brig. Honestly,
Speaker 3: I started a new show.
Speaker 1: It's called Pay your Friends, and his friends his respect mine.
Speaker 3: No, no, not just respect, his money too. But it's
Speaker 3: like pay your friends, pay your friends, love support. Like
Speaker 3: every time your friend get a new business or a
Speaker 3: new store, we want to go there and get the discount.
Speaker 3: No pay pay for the ship like you would pay
Speaker 3: at the at the fucking bench Balenciaga store. Fat So,
Speaker 3: I got a show called Pay your Friends. It's a
Speaker 3: new podcast. I only call it a podcast because that's
Speaker 3: what people are calling it. It's a show, that's right.
Speaker 2: This is a show. This is a show. And I
Speaker 2: got a big birthday celebration.
Speaker 3: What is this gonna be on? Hopefully before April sixteen?
Speaker 3: Of course April sixteen.
Speaker 1: We don't got that many episodes in the Okay, so
Speaker 1: this is this is out, this is coming out.
Speaker 2: It's out now.
Speaker 1: It's coming out.
Speaker 3: April sixteen, The cph of Sounds, More Friends, More Life,
Speaker 3: Sorry I said it wrong, More Life, More Friends Birthday Show.
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle editing out the fucked up part because my dude,
Speaker 2: biggie back there. Hold it, Damn, we don't play.
Speaker 1: We know what it is.
Speaker 2: What was fucked up?
Speaker 1: Because you said I said it backwards. But we ain't
Speaker 1: gonna get that part in there.
Speaker 2: Fix it however you want. Yeah, we're gonna edit this
Speaker 2: shit up.
Speaker 1: We cleared, we shoot it up. You know what it is, y'all.
Speaker 2: This rock solid, this fucking sight for sounds legend.
Speaker 1: Like I said, man, give the legends the flowers while
Speaker 1: they still could smell them. Don't wait today in the air,
Speaker 1: because then we can't see them and we're not gonna care.
Speaker 3: You heard we outside, Man, this rock sound coming back.
Speaker 3: My feel because all they did, all we did was
Speaker 3: talking about me. I got so many rock stories.
Speaker 1: Yo, he said, all we did was talk about me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm interview with you.
Speaker 2: I got a lot of rock stories.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna expose you Let's go and exposed.
Speaker 2: Let's go expose your part two.
Speaker 1: My brother love.
Speaker 2: Appreciated man. It was dope, YO, and she's gonna be
Speaker 2: flying exact YO.
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