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Speaker 1: What up, y'all? This is your main man, Memphis Bleek

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Speaker 1: right here. Welcome to rock Solid, a production of iHeart

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Speaker 1: Radio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my

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Speaker 1: guys over at Drink Champs. You should nobody know. You

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Speaker 1: shouldn't nobody know? Yeah, y'all, you already know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Yours truly M Greezy myth bleak back with another exclusive

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Speaker 1: episode of Rock Solid.

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Speaker 2: And I got one of my guys right here.

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Speaker 1: I mean when I started this shit, it's one of

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Speaker 1: the first guys who interviewed me. So it's an honor

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Speaker 1: for me to interview him. He was the voice of

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Speaker 1: New York. I watched this guy set Blaze is in

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Speaker 1: many different trails in this game. So to be sitting

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Speaker 1: here kicking it with him finding out what's the latest

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Speaker 1: trail he blazing right now, it's an honor.

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome my god Sight for Sounds to the building.

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Speaker 2: What's up, my guy?

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Speaker 1: So much? How you've been bro, I've been great, healthy, alive.

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Speaker 2: That hard right man.

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Speaker 3: Before you even start with me, I don't give a

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Speaker 3: ship about any of that. I want to say. Here's

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Speaker 3: my intro. I've been trying to call this guy. For

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Speaker 3: a while I had an old number. I want to

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Speaker 3: tell you we.

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Speaker 2: Had the rapper number. This is a journalist number. Did

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Speaker 2: you did?

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Speaker 3: I want to tell you, bro, of all these people

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Speaker 3: jumping into this world, you are one of the endless

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Speaker 3: to do it. And not only that, your personality has

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Speaker 3: already always fit this world. Is the technology and the

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Speaker 3: media caught up to what you already how you've been,

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Speaker 3: the reason why you're so good on this is the

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Speaker 3: reason why we love you. And it just happened to

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Speaker 3: just work out perfectly, the timing and what you're doing

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Speaker 3: and the stories you.

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Speaker 2: Got out here. And it's no negative energy.

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Speaker 1: You ain't. That's what I'm saying. Doing that, it's an

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Speaker 1: honor for me to be here. Man, than appreciate it, man,

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Speaker 1: shout out by God nor because if it wasn't for

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Speaker 1: n O R I would not be doing it. Right.

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Speaker 1: He saw this, I didn't right, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: So I got to give all the credit I didn't believe.

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Speaker 1: But Yo, let's get to my guy, man, because a

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Speaker 1: lot of people know you from Hot ninety seven. Let's

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Speaker 1: start before I know you as Kim DJ right right,

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Speaker 1: who was little Kim djety seven?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my first job in the industry. Yeah, so let's

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Speaker 3: talk about that. How did you get that star that

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Speaker 3: very reliable young DJ in the game, opening up at

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Speaker 3: the tunnel for Funk Flax and all those people. And

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Speaker 3: then the woman remember Jessica, I used to run a tunnel.

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Speaker 3: She was very cool with all of the classic Kim

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Speaker 2: So you know, Kim was going.

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Speaker 3: Kim was basically leave, not leaving Junior Marfy, but doing

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Speaker 3: her solo runners.

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Speaker 2: And they needed a d for.

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Speaker 3: Her because enough was Biggist DJ and then Junior Mafia

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Speaker 3: kind of just whatever whoever Biggies DJ was, so she

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Speaker 3: was getting in her first promo run ninety six, three

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Speaker 2: A week a week, not a show a week, nigga

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Speaker 2: a week. Yo, Kim was pocketing in that bag.

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Speaker 3: And to this day, to this day, and I never

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Speaker 3: pick it up in a disrespectful way, but Kim on Jacob, y'all,

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Speaker 3: motherfucker's still owe me per diem from.

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Speaker 1: All those shows, yo, yo deal yo bringing up for diem.

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Speaker 1: You know I didn't have a clue what she meant

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Speaker 1: when she was like, niggas can't eat without per deal.

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Speaker 1: To me, that was just a cool line. Yeah, until

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Speaker 1: I really couldn't eat until that per deal. Yo, That

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Speaker 1: shit was important. I think it was thirty five a day, yo.

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Speaker 1: Y'all was doing good. Hope was looking out for They

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Speaker 1: was getting us two seventy five a week. Hard.

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Speaker 2: They gotta get two seventy five a week there for shows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that was bad, yo, that's crazy. But it was

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Speaker 1: promo time, right, and promo is usually free. Yeah, she

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Speaker 1: was just even paying you off promo run Yeah oh no,

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Speaker 1: kim my bad. She wasn't pocketing a that. No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: he's a good one. Because it's halfway. That's probably why

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got paid for promo.

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Speaker 3: We got but halfway through when she started getting money

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Speaker 3: and still say three hundred a week, I was like,

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Speaker 2: Because yo went up? Oh my god, that's crazy. That's

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Speaker 1: So the little Kim play and all that, that's how

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Speaker 1: it led into Hot ninety seven. How did that come about? No?

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Speaker 3: How ninety seven was through the Tunnel and funk Master Flex.

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Speaker 3: So Kim was like, I was lucky because him would

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Speaker 3: be working Wednesday through Saturday whatever, and the tunnel was

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Speaker 3: the tunnel.

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Speaker 1: Yo, how was you back there? What?

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Speaker 2: Eighteen not twenty nineteen? Twenty? Different?

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Speaker 1: Wild, bro, Like, I haven't been to a club like

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Speaker 1: But that was one of a kind.

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Speaker 3: And the nights you were in there, I got tapes, Bro,

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Speaker 3: I got nobody had cameras back then.

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Speaker 1: The Choke no joke and mist excitement who he got

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Speaker 1: his own issues.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, choke even fighting for his tapes.

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Speaker 1: I ain't mad at these dudes. Man, It's history. And

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Speaker 1: it's like, you got to pay that ball.

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Speaker 3: Whoever owns the camera technically owns a tench to make

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Speaker 3: sure you make an agreement with this guy, whoever your

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Speaker 2: Because he looked.

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Speaker 1: Fishy, he couldn't look at you, he couldn't even get

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Speaker 2: He ain't even figured out the freight problem.

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Speaker 3: Bro, I had a little camp quarder and I got

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Speaker 3: I still got. I'm looking for an adapter now so

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Speaker 3: I could transfer the I got the old tapes and

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Speaker 3: the old camera. I gotta transfer to digital.

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Speaker 1: You need Yoda guru, tell him what you got here?

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Speaker 1: I got that.

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Speaker 3: So the Tunnel Nightclub was like the illest club in

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Speaker 3: New York City. It was like the music and culture.

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Speaker 3: It was the purest of purest street ship. It could

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Speaker 3: the streets, the streets, we had to go to the tunnel.

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Speaker 3: This sh it wasn't popping in the tunnel.

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Speaker 1: You did not have the street right at all.

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Speaker 3: Right, you might have the bougie, you might have the mainstream,

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: So I was in there as a young buck, and

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Speaker 3: I had to play early because what happened in the

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Speaker 3: first five hundred girls free. I remember that.

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Speaker 1: But it was like from up to eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 3: So I had to DJ at like nine o'clock with

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Speaker 1: That got in for free holes three thousand, yup, and

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Speaker 1: that's when they start charging us eleven hundred to get

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Speaker 3: So I was the man with the R and B

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Speaker 3: because you know, I was playing for just girls until

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Speaker 2: So then and then DJ Big Cap would get on,

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Speaker 2: resting piece and piece Big Cap.

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Speaker 3: Then I would get back on, play a half hour reggae,

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Speaker 3: and then Flex would get on and the night would explode.

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Speaker 2: Before I let you finish. I just realized something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as a kid, I always wondered how the hell

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Speaker 1: bad Boy had so much pulled with Hot ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: All of y'all was their DJs. Big Cat DJ for Biggie,

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Speaker 1: Enough DJ for Junior, Mafia, DJ for Hot Night for

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Speaker 1: litlu Kim. This is why they records played all day y'all.

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Speaker 1: This is why y'all had no slack time. We finally

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Speaker 1: cracked the code, you know, Puffs said one time.

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Speaker 3: Puff said to us all the DJs, he was like,

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Speaker 3: records out of your create right now, could you do

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Speaker 3: a party tonight?

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Speaker 1: And we was like this is like ninety eight. We

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Speaker 2: But it won't be good.

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Speaker 3: You tell me no biggie, no flavoring in your ear,

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Speaker 3: no total, no faith, no whatever, nothing damn.

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Speaker 1: And we were like, some of these records still play today, man,

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Speaker 1: come on one twelve today, you still playing these records today?

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Speaker 3: As a DJ, Right, Let's say if I go to

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Speaker 3: let's say I'm gonna go play a country party. Let's

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Speaker 3: I'll call up a DJ that knows country music, and

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Speaker 3: I'll say to him, what's the Benjamins of country? That's

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Speaker 3: our guideline, What's the Benjamins of reggae? What's the Benjamin's

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Speaker 3: of house? Give me ten of those, because to us,

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Speaker 3: the Benjamins is the record that it tells you the

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Speaker 2: I get that.

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Speaker 1: I get that man from the BX Man as a

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Speaker 1: Bronx kid coming up the mixtape era. Like what DJs

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Speaker 1: would you say you got your influence from or study

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Speaker 1: before you got in the game.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot I used to like, Douop is my

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Speaker 3: favorite man, that's my guy do I got all his

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Speaker 3: tapes not to go on from you.

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Speaker 1: You know, he got all his mixtapes ever made as

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Speaker 1: an archive where you could buy it as a download.

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Speaker 2: He got a flash shot you inted at them do

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Speaker 2: Wop tapes.

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Speaker 3: He got it develop the illness and the reason why

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Speaker 3: I love Douop is the you know, the the music

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Speaker 3: everybody had and that was great. Craig G was great,

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Speaker 3: ron G chill Will, but Douop had the illis Mike

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Speaker 3: game and he corrapt so to me, he was like everything.

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Speaker 3: His tapes were the best to me. But like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I get but really I wanted to be a producer first.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so my influence is Premiere, Pete Rock, Clark Kent,

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Speaker 3: those guys. I thought you had to DJ to be

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was young, so I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: let me, let me learn how.

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Speaker 3: The DJ DJ word DJs that's how you get you know,

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Speaker 3: how you know to make certain club bangers. So I

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Speaker 3: was following. I thought you had to learn how to

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Speaker 3: DJ to be a producer. I didn't want to do

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Speaker 2: I got older.

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Speaker 3: I just thought like, all right, so you have to

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Speaker 3: scratch on your beat, so I have to learn how

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Speaker 3: to scratch. I didn't know about parties yet I tried that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know you had to be light handed to

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Speaker 3: be a d you're heavy handed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, shit was.

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Speaker 1: Bad breaking member. These kids don't even got to worry

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Speaker 1: lot of that and Hope where Hope said, they don't

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Speaker 1: I don't give a ship to him.

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Speaker 1: Like that Swiss beats like that, calls me bleak, I

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Speaker 1: Like that, tell me if it's like that, it's like that.

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Speaker 1: Enough sat there like as if excuse me. Remember you

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Speaker 1: the rhymes. Yeah that's it, Yo, eat what you think? Yeah, bleek,

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Speaker 1: that's it? Did the record? He like, Yo, I'm telling you, Blair,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I never ever asked him me either.

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Speaker 1: you walked me off the plank in New York City,

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Speaker 2: You gotta bring him up here.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you. Maybe it had to be something political. No,

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Speaker 1: the first that did this podcast thing? Wan Epstein, like

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Speaker 3: But first of all, I just I don't I hate

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Speaker 3: I didn't know nothing about podcasts. They made me get

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Speaker 3: the morning show with Rosenberg. Yes, I remember, never met

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Speaker 3: the guy. Ebro put us together. He said, I think

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Speaker 3: And he said, oh, we should record it and make

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Speaker 3: why podcast. It's the iPod. So we recorded it and

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Speaker 3: doing the morning show. Never was it a pivot. Podcast

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Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you no money.

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Speaker 3: No YouTube yet YouTube started. YouTube just started putting podcasts recently.

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Speaker 3: But what we got from it, the monotation wasn't money.

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Speaker 3: It was the love right bro to this day and

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Speaker 3: me and Rosenberg, we got our ins and outs all

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Speaker 3: can we go back here and talk on our podcast

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Speaker 3: and they told us the illess, illess, illless stories. To

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Speaker 3: there's still some stories that were told on one app

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Speaker 3: that have not been told anywhere else.

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00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 2: Wow.

439
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: So them shits is stilled that takes this valuable.

440
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 3: They're not video though, that's the only part audio, so

441
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 3: we got to wait for the technology to make it,

442
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 3: you know. But Bro, we had Snoop Dogg right after

443
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 3: Nate dog died.

444
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 1: Wow.

445
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 3: He happened to be on a promo run for something else,

446
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 3: and he came in the saddest person in the world,

447
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 3: like he just lost.

448
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 1: Never seen Snoop like that.

449
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 3: It was the wildst shit I ever saw. And we're like, yo,

450
00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 3: can we talk to you in the back and he

451
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 3: was like and like you, we just want to ask you,

452
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: you know, if you're feeling right. He talked to us, Bro.

453
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: It got him out of this. He said, thank you

454
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 2: so much.

455
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: You got me out of my fucking depression.

456
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 3: Because we were asking the thing about wandapp is we

457
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 3: always asked about the music.

458
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 1: Drama bro.

459
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: We interviewed Kanye. Kim Kardashian was in the room.

460
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: We didn't give a fuck. Yeah walking walking clip, bro,

461
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,959
Speaker 1: but anything walking anywhere else where she would be, everybody

462
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: would be trying to We didn't get.

463
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 3: We paid no, no disrespect, We paid no attention to her.

464
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: We were asking him hip how come your drums and

465
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 3: this song you try to sound like Dyla?

466
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: He's like whoa?

467
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 3: The same day, if you watched the clip when Kanye

468
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: went on sway, you ain't got the answer. He left

469
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 3: our show to go do that show, so he got

470
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 3: the same clothes on.

471
00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 2: It's the same day and we just add nerd that

472
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: nerd hip hop shit.

473
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 3: So the love of the music and the culture is

474
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 3: what kept going up alive for so many years. We

475
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: never hit the jackpop money wise, but the love. I

476
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: could see someone in the airport and the way they

477
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 3: talk to me, I know they're one up fan, yo, bro,

478
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 3: I see that with me doing this, Like people that

479
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: come up to me now and say something, It's like, yo,

480
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: you listen to podcast like no way, like you know

481
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 3: who I am? Like my podcast is different, Like I

482
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 3: don't think, no, how can I say this? Mail delivery

483
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 3: service guy or transit service guy, police service guy, fire

484
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 3: min service guy in.

485
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: New York City. Don't tune into Rock Solid because everywhere

486
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: I go they stopping me bleep. That episode was dancing

487
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: it It's like, wow, you listen to this.

488
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: You got great stories, you got great insight. You were there.

489
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: That's the thing with you and with Nori was the

490
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 3: best about y'alls Like you was you could tell shit

491
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 3: about when you was there a backstage.

492
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: Nah, that's a fact, Bro, I was there.

493
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: I was trying, man, Like I watched you start, like

494
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: I said, Little Kim to the Hot ninety seven, to

495
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: the one app then the morning show takeover that y'ad was.

496
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: The first ones doing.

497
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: Wre you came on that show. I remember Ye before

498
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: she got her deal. I remember angely ye Bro, when

499
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 1: she first This was when the Shade forty five. It

500
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: was just the one building in DC, I believe, and

501
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: she just got her I guess it was her slot.

502
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: She would just start her new show. And she said

503
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: to me, they'll believe, it'll be dope if you give

504
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: me a little interview real quick so I could get

505
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: my name up. And I'm like, I got you. I

506
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: think I was one of her first interviews. She gotta

507
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: ad got to show me some love and let him know.

508
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: I was the first. Like you said, it's no first

509
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: of I was the first.

510
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: It was the video where where a whole god was

511
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: pun with punch Angela Yee.

512
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 2: No, she not no ship.

513
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: He punched angel way.

514
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 2: He put that's what it looks like.

515
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: That wasn't her in the video.

516
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 2: There's a video where he looks like he's punching Angela yee.

517
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: But her hair was on fire, yo, yo chill.

518
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: She had the Michael Jackson Yo. God, I ain't never

519
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: seen a video. So it's not a big video. It's

520
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: like grainy. It looks like it looks like like Jay slap,

521
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: yo chill.

522
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 2: And then people like, yo, what's going on? And she

523
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: was like, my hair was on fire. He was fuck yo, man.

524
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: So but how did the morning show Shane forty five,

525
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: like just doing radio and general change your whole ass?

526
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: Like you said you wanted to be a producer and

527
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: now it's DJ word. Yeah yeah, No.

528
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: When once I got to High Night seven. My beats

529
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: weren't that good, so.

530
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: You never played the beat for me. So I gonestly say,

531
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: you know, as a person, you know like this.

532
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: One, ain't it? Let me chill beat.

533
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 3: So when I learned radio, I was like all I said, Yo,

534
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 3: I'm flex Funk mass the flexes. He's my mentor, I'm

535
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 3: the mentee. I said, you know, he getting up there

536
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: in age. He's gonna retire soon and then I'm gonna

537
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 3: take his slot.

538
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: And my whole.

539
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: Career, my early career, was trying to get his slot.

540
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: And then after a while I said, this thing ain't

541
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: going nowhere.

542
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: Changed my direction. Bro.

543
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 2: I remember the day I looked at him, I said, he.

544
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: Ain't going nowhere.

545
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: I better get a personality and learn how to do

546
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 3: mornings because that's the other most important slot and Angie

547
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: had afternoons. Angie was There's no way I wouldn't even

548
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: attempt to try to be like Angie. So I started

549
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 3: working on my personality to get the morning show. And

550
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 3: you know, after years of being in the industry, talking

551
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: my ship, I was always funny to my friends in person.

552
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: I was like, let me try to make that into

553
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: this because I didn't know how to talk.

554
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: I just wanted to DJ. But after a while I did.

555
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 3: The morning Shawan Shade forty five and Hot ninety seven

556
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: pulled me in back home and it just became like,

557
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 3: is the greatest, the greatest moments of my life talking

558
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: to actual New York people, going to work, going to school.

559
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 3: That's the best part of it. The politics, the radio,

560
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: all the shit. That's all bullshit. Talking to people and

561
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 3: then you see those people out and they're like, Yo,

562
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: you get me going every day, or you helped me

563
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 3: with this. Are you your story about your aunt made

564
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 3: me feel this? Like that's that was the key.

565
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: That's dope, man, Because damn y'all even had Joe Button's

566
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: up there doing the morning show, Joe bud before me.

567
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little word up man. Yeah, they saw, they saw.

568
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: What was making him popping out hot nice ever saw

569
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: that back then?

570
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: Word up man. They was the first they had everybody

571
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: up there doing the morning show. But then, you know,

572
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: a lot of people see you do the comedy, Yeah,

573
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: but me I saw something before that, after High ninety seven,

574
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: the pivot you did before comedy. A lot of people

575
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: don't give you your props, man, Rihanna wouldn't be Rihanna

576
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for she got the talent. But you

577
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: had the vision when rock Nation when Rockefeller was.

578
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: Before rock Nation, it was not Rockefeller.

579
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: It was Rockefeller, but he was the president of Death

580
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: Jam Jam. But when rock Nation was being formed, you

581
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: were the first A and R Yeah, HIREDT Yeah. I

582
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: remember you had your own office. I was jealous, the

583
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: motherfucker I the fuckxit forgot office and not the off

584
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: the half word up.

585
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: I used to come up there every day.

586
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: And I remember when you first played me the record

587
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: too ponder replay like this is it, bro, I'm out,

588
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: this is it? We gone.

589
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: I don't get a lot of credit. You know who

590
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: gives me the most credit, Rihanna, And that's the one

591
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: who's supposed to bro.

592
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: I love that.

593
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 3: She a real one, the realist her recently and she

594
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: fucking yelled in the hallway.

595
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: She's like, everybody respect this man.

596
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: He put me on like I never I had When

597
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: people say you made or discovered, I never discovered her.

598
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: I broke her like I played the record before before

599
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: she had a deal. I helped her get her deal

600
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: at what was def Jam at the time. But I'm

601
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: trying to show you something.

602
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: Like yo, bro, and why not give my credit? But

603
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: you know what else to It's always been funny to

604
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: me about you, by Jake, I gotta honestly say, you

605
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: the only Buerto Rican nigga who wear full fledged rodsklod

606
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: bah bah we in the spot my massive video, his

607
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: nigga was in more hood spots than me. I used

608
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: to see the videos the next day and be like,

609
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: that's safe for sales. DMJ gonna make some monster put

610
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: your light to Zobi like Yo, this nigga is way

611
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: more yarny than me. First of all, yes, for a lot.

612
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: When I found the real dancehall reggae, I jumped there.

613
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: You would. I never put the fake accent. But who

614
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: is in there now saying you know it's natural? It's

615
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: not you, bro, I'm not Caribbean at all. You here

616
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: with me, take me down the Eastern Parkway in the Pere.

617
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: If you in New York, mosself, if you, if you from.

618
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: The hood in New York, you Audi part Caribbean automatic automatically,

619
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: you have a sugar cane, you Caribbean. Look, this is

620
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: the this is the note that jay Z gave me

621
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: to be the an R.

622
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: D. Bro.

623
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: Dang, slim me this note, I'm gonna say, he said,

624
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: he slim me this note. It says start at fifty

625
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: K Senior vice president an R I said fine, no, no,

626
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: I said, ho, you know I learned from you. I

627
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 3: listened to all your music, listen to all your lessons.

628
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: You know you never take the first off now, o

629
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: g one. I said, Bro, you never take the first

630
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: off of That's all we got.

631
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: I said, fine, said I tried, I tried. I am

632
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: not me neither not with them, Yo, they're the worst

633
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: people to try to negotiate with because they know all

634
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: the hustles, they know all the games. So it's like,

635
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: why are you trying to spend me though? Bro?

636
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: He said, that's all we got.

637
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: I said, okay, fine, that's right, good, We're good.

638
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: I don't give hope.

639
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: Could have paid me zero to me an A and

640
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: R at Rock. But I was known a little bit

641
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: in the Crewan world. I helped Sean Paul get his

642
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: deal damn right. So from that they and I had

643
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: that group Nina sky I put them over so Reaganina

644
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: sky Man was super dope too, bro. So when they

645
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: came with Rihanna. They went to the guy who's known

646
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: for breaking Caribbean music. So I went Bama heard it.

647
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: I said, I like this one. Let's play this on

648
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: the radio so that when you go shop for a deal,

649
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: you already got some more men to them. So then

650
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: the famous story of she went to death Gym and

651
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: they wouldn't let her leave until they did the deal.

652
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: I don't know where they got that story from. I oh,

653
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: they act like she was there by herself.

654
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: No, no, I know the way it sounds now that

655
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: it wasn't like you wouldn't and you were there.

656
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: I wasn't there.

657
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: Who was there? There was all the death jail J Brown.

658
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: Everybody act like it was just J and I know

659
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: he wouldn't. They make it seem like he was strong

660
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: arming her. No, the story is they didn't want her

661
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: to leave. They were trying their best to find the deal.

662
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: Make the best offer.

663
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: The night before, me and your man and this is

664
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: your man, Hove, we had a big argument about that.

665
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 3: No way in the in the vestibule of forty forty,

666
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: you know from the street little Hallway club, in the club.

667
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: So he's like, what you think, I said, bro, she's

668
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: it I'm telling you, and mind you, I didn't know

669
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: she was going to be there, but I'm just saying

670
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: from what I know in the Caribbean world and major

671
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: she's it. And he goes, I don't know, I don't

672
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: Maybe she don't got the whole thing, and me and

673
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: him started arguing to the point, screaming, to the point

674
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: where his security had to open the door and be

675
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: like ya, you good, and I go he good, he good, Yo.

676
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: But these are security guys I saw every day. You know.

677
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: It wasn't like I was talking to a stranger. But

678
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. I'm saying it now on Rock Solid.

679
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: I just want my credit in that story, That's right.

680
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: I just want my Why you leave me out? That's

681
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: a fact I don't.

682
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: They definitely put your name in the begainning of the

683
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: Rihanna book because when Rihanna first came from from the

684
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: first time me and her member I met her and

685
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: Tierra Marie at the same time.

686
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: The same time.

687
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: Tiana Marie was signed to Rockefeller, Rihanna signed to death

688
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: jenmis and.

689
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: Then literally Rihanna Ka, I mean Tiara came at three

690
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: o'clock signed. Rihanna came in five five o'clock, by eight o'clock,

691
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: nine o'clock. She signed literally the same day, and when

692
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: we walked out that office. You were on the road

693
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: every day with her, take every radio station, everywhere, all

694
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: the promo runs. When we called it back then, the

695
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: Chitlin Curch. You know what I'm saying. You did, Bro,

696
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: you was moving. I remember Caravana and Toronto. Oh my god,

697
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: I got I didn't. I didn't make it that year

698
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: when y'all performed. Oh I got booked that year. That

699
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: was the year they told me, hey, weed charges as cool,

700
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: but you got a little bit too much. And I'm like,

701
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: but weed is legal heat, but I'm not convicted. I

702
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: can't go. I thought it was if I had a felony,

703
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: not just caught cases. They was like, nah am, So

704
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: I never made it to that caravan that when reperformed.

705
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell your l story.

706
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: Was with us the whole time as President of Death Jaim,

707
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: that's all he was on that trip. President of def Jair.

708
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: We always told that we all remember that it was.

709
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: It was Kanye was there and Rihanna and we went

710
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 3: to all of TV stations, all the of those shows,

711
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 3: promo shows and then what we did one big show.

712
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: It was like in the it was between these buildings,

713
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 3: like an alley, but it was like thousands of people.

714
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: And I said, yo, Cardinal Official. It was my brother. Also,

715
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 3: he's also on Rihanna's first album and he's in the video.

716
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: And I said, yo, can I bring Cardy so he

717
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: could perform with us, like make the show better?

718
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: And they're like, boom.

719
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: So before we even start the show, everybody's talking to Hole. Yo,

720
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: You're going on. He's like, I'm not going on. I'm

721
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: President of Death Jay. This is for them and it's

722
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: for y'all. All right, boom, Rihanna, everybody performed.

723
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: Cardi goes on.

724
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: Bro.

725
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 3: They went so beyond crazy. This nigga hove goes safe.

726
00:35:54,239 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: You got p S A, Yo, you lie that? He

727
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: good DAYO. He like, what the fuck is crazy?

728
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: He got PSC? I said, yeah, I got p S

729
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: who don't have FSA. He goes, he goes. I say

730
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 3: you're gonna do it.

731
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: He goes.

732
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: Around a little bit.

733
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: Yo, that's crazy.

734
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: Now usedta have Toronto And that night upside down.

735
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: That night he was they Jay Brown and them, they

736
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 3: was talking to him. The only problem was I think

737
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 3: he was already talking to Acon, so they got into

738
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: a little biting one and he went with a con eventually,

739
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: but it was they was trying to get him.

740
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie Man was one of those artists

741
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: that if you as an artist from New York booming

742
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: in the tunnel moving, remember his record wasn't really in

743
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: New York like that, so you were sleep It happened

744
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: to me. I went to Toronto thinking, Okay, Cordon all official,

745
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: I know me. He ain't really the he go on

746
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: before me, right, I got some my nigga. That nigga

747
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: hit that stage. I wanted to give the money back

748
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: to the promoter, like y'all want me to before After that, yo,

749
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: y'all might as well take the money back. I can't

750
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: compete with that, Like what the fuck? I had no

751
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: idea to.

752
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: Day and then give it up right, world up.

753
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: So then I'm you was the first and a lot

754
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: that were discovering that you was the first in a

755
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: lot because from the Rihanna A andr Hot ninety seven

756
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: DJ and Liluke Kenna producing lawn abb fucking Sean Paul putting,

757
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: I didn't have no idea you put Sean Paul on

758
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: Nina Sky fucking Ross bro Ross two. You know I

759
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: made that call, you made the finish and play. That

760
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: was like a tag team. That was tax That was

761
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: tag team because I did the intro. You you was

762
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: missed the ce you finished.

763
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: Yo, but yo, I was.

764
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: Going into comedy. You was doing the comedy ship before

765
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: anybody bro.

766
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: So like, so, first of all, it's weird, right, like

767
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 3: now my full time gig is comedy. Yes, but I

768
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 3: still to this point like I don't really I don't

769
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: really call myself a comedian.

770
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: I call myself a hip hop person that does comedy.

771
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: But you wasn't doing it yourself. Then you were promoting

772
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: Buddy first.

773
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: But that was my bro.

774
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: Okay, here's how I got I was the DJ on

775
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: the Chappelle Show. Yes, so the Chapelle shows.

776
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: Got about that note. Yeah, I got my notes. They're

777
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: not that good. They're good, but they Lapel show. I forgot.

778
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: Remember the Chappelle Show got clipped. It's been a long

779
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: time since I watched the Chappelle Show. But we're gonna

780
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: get in there. You this is why you're here.

781
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: So I was a DJ on that and me and

782
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: Dave used to suck around with the crowd, the realist,

783
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: comedian that fuck with hip hop.

784
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: He is rapper.

785
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: I know he wanted to drive, but he probably got

786
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: an unreleased album to me the way Dave moves. He

787
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: got the unreleased.

788
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: He's a rapper that his raps are comedy, but he

789
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: got an entourage, he got the music in the back.

790
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: Everything about him is a rap rapper. Everything you go

791
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: in his dressing room before the show, he is.

792
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: It's when he means rappers. It's like he's meeting his

793
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: kindred spirit.

794
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: It's crazy because he's one of the only guys that

795
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: tell serious shit and it's funny. He don't even really

796
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: tell jokes anymore. It's just real shit.

797
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: It's hard of what we're dealing with in the world today,

798
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: and he feeds it to you in a way that

799
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: you could digest and and laugh in the moment. But

800
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: really it's something to think about. He's the illness, the

801
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 3: illness bro. So I was the d Jon Rappell show.

802
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 3: We used to suck around with the crowd before he

803
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: started taping. He can't not do stand up in front

804
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: of him crowd. He can't not so he's like, there's

805
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: a crowd out there. I'm gonna do a little stand up.

806
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 3: Then we'll start recording the show. So sometimes I fuck

807
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 3: around with music, play something like the Little John sketchy.

808
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: Know Little John wat that came from us because he

809
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: would talk on stage and I'll be like what yeah, yeah,

810
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: he would look out. I'm like what. So he's like, yo,

811
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: you know Little John. Yeah, He's like, we want to

812
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: do the sketch. So it came from that bringing up

813
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 3: Little John. God bless him.

814
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: You know, he lost his son man, So sorry man,

815
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: much love to you and the family. Prayers, see the

816
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: whole family.

817
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: Bro. Yeah, John's my man. Word.

818
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: So then from there, Chappelle goes, yo, you should do

819
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: stand up.

820
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: He said that to me, He goes, you should do

821
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 3: stand up. I said, why, I'm a DJ. I don't

822
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: even know what he's told about. He said, you got

823
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: the timing. He's like, you don't realize when you do that,

824
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: You're that's a joke. He goes, you got the timing.

825
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 3: He goes, you talk on the radio for a living,

826
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 3: you got the personality.

827
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: You should look into it. I'm like, shut the fuck up.

828
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 3: Oh i I'm like, I'm living my life right now,

829
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 3: the best life.

830
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: And then years leter.

831
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: So I just all these years MTV Hot ninety seven,

832
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: people would just say you funny, you funny on the radio,

833
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: You're funny on MT I'm like, why they keep saying that?

834
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, how do I make

835
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: money with this? That's all I'm thinking about, hustling. That's right, Okay,

836
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: you think I'm funny? Well what if I get a

837
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: bunch of funny people in this club on a Tuesday

838
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 3: night and promote it and you give me the money

839
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: and I'll give you the funny. And that's all it

840
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: was me just being a producer. Dang, I'll get the

841
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: you know, you ended up producing. I got it ended

842
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 3: up anyway. And then I go up there, I say

843
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: one or two things, and then I bring out a

844
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 3: real host and a show goes on and everybody's happy.

845
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 3: And then one day I go up and I say

846
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: something funny just naturally, and I get a laugh, and

847
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: I was like, oh what shit, field shit feel.

848
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: Kind of good.

849
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: And I talked to the comedy like Talent Capone, Rob Stapleton,

850
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: Mark Vieira. I'm like, how do I do that again?

851
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: And they're like, well, you gotta write a joke. And

852
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: then I was, and then bro and then I just started.

853
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: But a lot of these comedians have writers, right, and

854
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: my bucket.

855
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: Some dude, it's different though, Like remember you said enough

856
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: might have gave you a bar.

857
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: I've given many rappers bars.

858
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: Hook ideas finish the line like this, I would could

859
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 3: say I'm a rapper, but I wrote yeah some part.

860
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: If you write a joke a comedy, you a fucking comedian.

861
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: You might not be the guy to personality to tell it,

862
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: but you could give it to the person who has

863
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: the person Yeah. Some people you might get help. You

864
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: might get a tag. With a tag is like you

865
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: can add this to the joke. You might get some help.

866
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: Some people got writers.

867
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 3: But a lot of times, like sometimes people say they

868
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: write for Chris Rock, he just likes people in the room,

869
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: and they just yes, yes. So you know, there's some

870
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: some of bullshit that have writers. My thing is like,

871
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 3: if you don't write your own ship, do you really

872
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: You don't really want to be a comedian.

873
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 2: You just want to be famous, and that's two different things.

874
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: I don't care.

875
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: I want to be famous, but I don't care if

876
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: it doesn't happen for me. I love being a comedian.

877
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: So why would I say someone else's ship. That's the

878
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: fun part to think of it, write it, say it and.

879
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 2: It works to me. That's the whole ship.

880
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: When I used to do my show, all the top

881
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: comedians were like, sife, this don't count.

882
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: This is your crowd. They know you.

883
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 1: Come to Brooklyn, come to Queens, come.

884
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: To this pool hall we do on Thursdays.

885
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: Shine, oh ship, come, don't do that.

886
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: I was in there, joke bro Let.

887
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: Me tell you the worst people to do jokes for

888
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: Jamaican crowd. They don't laugh at nothing.

889
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: No, no, chill man, they don't laugh. They ain't playing

890
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: the gay jokes for sure. None of that l g

891
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: B t Q y knew you. I used to be like, Yo,

892
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: I'm Puerto Rican. I need a lot of pussy, y'all,

893
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: y'all y'all, Oh yeah, no fire, They not with nothing

894
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: for yo.

895
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: Here's here's what makes me real. I went back right,

896
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 3: I went back again. I went back again. Got one life.

897
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 3: Oh God made it one more.

898
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 2: One more.

899
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: That's New York for you think you could be the

900
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: hottest rapper in New York City, do a show and

901
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: these motherfuckers is in there like this. Yeah, it's the

902
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: worst while you perform, Man, you looking like am I

903
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: killing it? Like? I think? So they know the record,

904
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: but nobody knew niggas like this, because today niggas is

905
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: two flies on the five thousand dollars shirt, ten thousand

906
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: dollars jeans, twenty thousand dollars niggas. I'm not wrinkling my

907
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: clothes for you. I came to see you perform, not

908
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: mean you.

909
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 2: To watch people.

910
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: I came to see you. You jump around it Dad,

911
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: It's not me man, yo. So being the producer DJ

912
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: who pivoted into all these worlds, was ever a time

913
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: that you felt radio ever had you boxed? Then? Oh?

914
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure? The morning show? Oh wow, I want

915
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: to show. Have me boxed in.

916
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: The Morning show was a rough time for me because

917
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: I was locked in every day Monday through Friday, waking

918
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: up at four am. And even if I did comedy

919
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: or DJ the night before, I'm getting home three o'clock shower,

920
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: go right back to work and then bro. Even when

921
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: I was on radio, I would still do comedy. I

922
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: would I would do stand up, I would DJ, I

923
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: would go to radio, and then I still worked at

924
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 3: rock or I worked at with the Neptunes for a while,

925
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: Like I never stopped.

926
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: I kept other jobs. I was on MTV, so I

927
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 2: would say.

928
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 3: But the only thing I didn't like about Hot ninety

929
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 3: seven morning show was the fact that I was stuck

930
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: every day from Florida whatever time. And then like I

931
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 3: couldn't even go away on the weekends because I couldn't

932
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 3: fly back Monday.

933
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: I had to be on the edge, so I had

934
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: to come back Sunday, you know what I mean.

935
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 3: So, like I would try to ask comedians if I

936
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 3: could open for them on the road and be like,

937
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: I could leave right after the radio, like if it

938
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 3: was like Boston or Albany or DC, I could drive

939
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: and then leave it right back. So a lot of

940
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: people gave me chances like that, but I was like,

941
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: all right, how do I get on State.

942
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: I gotta do it for free. Ask so if I

943
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: could open up.

944
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: Right so I'll just be running around and the morning

945
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: show it definitely like the last two years, I felt like.

946
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: I was in prison. I just wanted to get out

947
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: of there, damn.

948
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: And I never thought I would feel that way because

949
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: Hot nine seven was my life. And then the way

950
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: I left was very unceremoniously it was.

951
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: Just a nasty just jetted.

952
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a nasty, weird situation. There was new bosses.

953
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: They didn't know the work I put in all over

954
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: all those years.

955
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: They didn't know.

956
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: Bro.

957
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 2: Remember we had the blackout in New York City.

958
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: I could not forget Bro.

959
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: The blackout happened. I happened to be around Hot They're like,

960
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: is anybody around the station? I said, I am. I

961
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: went up there, Bro. I was on the air for

962
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 3: like twenty eight hours or some sh d like no

963
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: one could get in because there was the ferries, the

964
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: subway fucked up, but there's high nice had a generator.

965
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: So I just went up there in a blackout and

966
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: just rocked the whole time.

967
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: That's who I was.

968
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: Everybody knew me as being like a soldier, super early,

969
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: leave late, never complain. And then how I left was

970
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: just like it was just nasty. And then you know

971
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 3: here since we're here, hello, og Wan saved my life,

972
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: Bro all the time, he said. O g Wan said, Yo, listen,

973
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: this is like after I left Rock. I left rock

974
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 3: Lot familiar the label because I got the job on MTV,

975
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: and whole was like, yo, look you can always work

976
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: here behind the scenes. There's an opportunity for you to

977
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: go to be in front of the camera. You should

978
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 3: take that hold told me that. Then that's when rock

979
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: Nation started and Og was like, Yo, when you leave hot,

980
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 3: come here, we'll manage you.

981
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: You're under the rock umbrella.

982
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: And then we go from there and to this day

983
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: like whatever, Yo, whatever does wan a whole.

984
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: Needs, I'm there and vice versa.

985
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: That they'll drop it off for any That's what people

986
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: don't understand about them, them three, with all the power

987
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: and success they have, they still will go to extra

988
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: man in their homies in one of us like and

989
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: that's the thing I think get underappreciated from gods.

990
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: Of that magnet that when all this shit fucking I listen.

991
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 3: I'm loyal to a fault, but my loyalty comes from

992
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: experience and situations. I've been in the ship that people

993
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 3: talk about hole like, oh, don't I don't really fuck

994
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: with him like that. I see all those people when

995
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: he walks in. All the bitch comes out of it,

996
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: all of it. That Nigga's presence in a room. I've

997
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: seen people who are absolutely haters straight up turning like, oh.

998
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: Jesus, yo, yo, you think I get a picture, it's like, Yo,

999
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: my man, you just just just five minutes ago talking

1000
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: shit word up like that's the way I can't stand.

1001
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: That's why I don't even believe it. That's why when I.

1002
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: Hear I see it and hear it, it's like I

1003
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: just not realize because it's like, because if he.

1004
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: Walk in this room, you don't want to get that

1005
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 3: hold me Nobody. There's not a person in the world

1006
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: who don't want to picture with Jay's That's a fact

1007
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: that ever said anything.

1008
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 2: Nah, he don't. He ain't the king. He really do this?

1009
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: Do that?

1010
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: He ain't the best that you bullshitting? You lying.

1011
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 3: But the problem I have with Hove is since nineteen

1012
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 3: ninety six, I'm from the Bronx, He's from Brooklyn.

1013
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 2: You're from Brooklyn.

1014
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: There's always a weird sarcasm battle we what with be

1015
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: and him. When people see us together, they think we

1016
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: hate each other because all we.

1017
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: Do is talk the most Son.

1018
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: But that's that's New York though.

1019
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: But Son is being I don't know what happened. It's

1020
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: not all we just love the pop shit.

1021
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: Though. I try to tell people that he whole pop

1022
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: shitter straight from the bricks. Bum ass, nigga, you ain't

1023
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: doing nothing out of here. Niggas don't know that side

1024
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: the whole.

1025
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 3: There's there's a there's a group of people in New

1026
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 3: York City. They come from outside. They're on the stoop

1027
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 3: on the sidewalk on the corner. These are called professional

1028
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 3: ship ship.

1029
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: Talkers, like like all that gold medal ship talkers.

1030
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 3: Yo, this guy see me in San Francisco. I ain't

1031
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: seen him in a while. He's kind of big. Now

1032
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: he's like a billionaire status. He's kind of moving differently.

1033
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: I was doing show with Dave Chappelle. He comes backstage

1034
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: him o G and death Hole sees me, lights up,

1035
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: lights up, gives me the biggest hug sun. I ain't

1036
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 3: seen him so long, bigg as hull love. I count

1037
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 3: down in my mind. I got about eight seconds to

1038
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 3: this before he talks ship that's right. Boom boom bo

1039
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 3: gives me, yo, you you're doing good, bro. You was

1040
00:50:59,160 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: good out there.

1041
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 2: Okay.

1042
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: Then he goes, hey, days, our little guy made it.

1043
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 3: Look at our little guy, A little god made it, yo.

1044
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 3: I said, Yo, ain't your fucking little guy.

1045
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: No, you little guy, that's right. One look at the

1046
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: little guy he made it made it. I'm like, yo.

1047
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: Fuck. So people are looking over. They didn't see the

1048
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: embrace part. They just see me going yo, shut the

1049
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: fuck up.

1050
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: So now they they yo, I'm telling you that's the

1051
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: side niggas don't know of whole man. I love that

1052
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: he don't even show it now. He keeps it personal

1053
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: with the with the fan. It's not on camera and

1054
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: all that. So it's the mystique about the mostik is

1055
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 1: crazy Hove is the gold medalist ship.

1056
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: So the best time Rock.

1057
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 3: Nation I'm in the office is when I was working

1058
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 3: for title Damn title the title first started.

1059
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: Word up.

1060
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 3: I was working with him. Bro, I'm in the office.

1061
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 3: He was on the Remember he was on the floor above.

1062
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: He's still up there the ninth. Okay, I was on

1063
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 3: the No No, before that forty. It was like thirties

1064
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 3: or forties before that office.

1065
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: Oh before the oh you're talking about the oh forty,

1066
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: he was on forty. We want thirty nine.

1067
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1068
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: So I just happened to be in the reception area

1069
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 3: getting a package. He come out the elevator. He come

1070
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 3: in the room, I mean in the in the in

1071
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 3: the front reception area. So I look up, I see

1072
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: him I give him the head nod, right, he got

1073
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 3: a serious face.

1074
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: Hu. So he walk in. He walked past me.

1075
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: He gets halfway down the hall, stops, turns around and goes, yo.

1076
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: I go, yeah, he goes, when I walk in, show

1077
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: me love, Yo, shit, I said.

1078
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 3: I said what He goes, I'm still hole nigga, right,

1079
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: I'm still jay Z show me love when I come

1080
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: in this motherfucker, I said, Bro, we at work. I'm

1081
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 3: leaving you alone, right because everybody come up to you

1082
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 3: like picture order god da da da da. I say,

1083
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: you look at you doing nah nah show me love.

1084
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, you're sick.

1085
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 2: Fuck bro, I'm.

1086
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: Telling you, yo, this is crazy. Man. I went up

1087
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: there yesterday. I had a meaning in the office, right,

1088
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: and I go see wall just kicking it with og

1089
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: og Like Yo, I've been meaning to call you. What

1090
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: I do? You did a lot, man. You be saying

1091
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: some shit. Man, we gotta have a talk. You saying

1092
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: too much. I don't know he didn't say what I

1093
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: said or didn't say, so I'm still waiting for that call.

1094
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: Like god, damn, I did something I don't even know

1095
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: if I did.

1096
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 2: I probably did something good. This might be the good call, yo.

1097
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: We got to talk. But it just sall the gangster.

1098
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1099
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: It might be one you're telling the real.

1100
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: Story like he gave me. He gave me a little

1101
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: idea of something that I'm gonna try because you know,

1102
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people write books, do documentaries. Nobody told

1103
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: their story in this type of sec you know what

1104
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean, where you can go back and replay.

1105
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: It's almost like rose at a Stone visually.

1106
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: Its audio audio history, word oral history. I'm gonna run

1107
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: through it, man. But back to you, my g do

1108
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: you think let's ask your opinion on radio. Do you

1109
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: think New York radio still holds the cultural impact it did? No?

1110
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 3: Damn you answered that quick. I mean, I'm not saying

1111
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 3: it's dead or it's over. It's just not the same impact,

1112
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 3: not the same it has. It still has impact, but

1113
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 3: not the same.

1114
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: No, I don't think we dictate the mass is no more.

1115
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 3: No, it's impossible. It's algorithms now. But I'll tell you

1116
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: this though the first algorithm. Here's the problem with music

1117
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 3: nowadays opposed to in our heyday, even though we still popping.

1118
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: The beauty of radio.

1119
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 3: When funck Master Flex debuted a song everybody was listening

1120
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 3: at the same time. That created an energy. If she

1121
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 3: was in your car and your crib and the store, here,

1122
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 3: the new whatever, whatever song, the new this, the new that,

1123
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 3: and you bump into somebody. Yo, you said it right then?

1124
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 3: Did you hear the I just heard it. It created

1125
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: more of a like a like a fury, right, so

1126
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 3: like it flexes on a ten of night and you

1127
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: on your way to the club and then you hear

1128
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 3: it that night.

1129
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: You it's energy.

1130
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: Now the way.

1131
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: Music is released, it's too personal.

1132
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 3: Everybody listening by themselves at different times and headphones.

1133
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: Shit still looks big with the numbers.

1134
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: Now the biggest thing is your views on YouTube or

1135
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 3: your views on Spotify. How many listens you got, how

1136
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:35,479
Speaker 3: many streams? Yes, that's great, but it's flat. They don't

1137
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 3: have that effect. The greatest Memphis Bleak moment to me

1138
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 3: is I tell this all the time to people. There

1139
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 3: was a night you was booked at Club Speed. Do

1140
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: mister c you drove on the block, you had a

1141
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 3: new Bends by yourself.

1142
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: Your Paul King show, p K. He talked about that.

1143
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: I know exactly had he talked about this club Speed.

1144
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 3: Club Speed was after the tunnel, much smaller, same energy. Yep,

1145
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 3: you pulled up in front of the block Memphis Bleak.

1146
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 3: You co hopped out of the bends, and the streets

1147
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: went crazy.

1148
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: You couldn't even get into the building.

1149
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 3: Why you were by yourself. We never knew, I thought

1150
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 3: people and the door was literally right off the streets

1151
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 3: and right there. Yeah, so the spot in front was

1152
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: safely so literally you could have just came out and

1153
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: went right in. You couldn't make it to the door. No,

1154
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 3: people went fucking crazy. And that's what I missed, the

1155
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 3: beauty of the the the broadcast.

1156
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: I feel, I feel like you know why that alone.

1157
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the streaming that stop that. I

1158
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: think this is rappers don't go outside anymore. That too,

1159
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: they don't touch the people. Like back then, we had

1160
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: the record stores to do the in stores, and when

1161
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: the record store stopped, we had the closing stores, the

1162
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: foot lockers, the dtlrs, all of those spots where we

1163
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: would pop up her grandma, take a picture with the baby.

1164
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: We took pictures with nieces and nephews who grown now,

1165
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: so they were able to grow that love for us

1166
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: and appreciation. Like man, they came to the town. I'm

1167
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: gonna show some love to them. These artists today you

1168
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: only see them on social media TV. Then when you

1169
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: go to the show, you behind the velvet rope, you

1170
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: don't even get social.

1171
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 3: Media does seem like a better idea because you reach

1172
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 3: more people at once, but you don't touch or you

1173
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 3: don't touch them, and that's I think that's something that's missing,

1174
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 3: and you can.

1175
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: You could do both. To me, it's like you could

1176
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: do both. It's like having PlayStation Network or Xbox and

1177
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: you're saying, these are my friends, but they're in the

1178
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: virtue where you never never met them. Yeah, like yeah,

1179
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: not your friends.

1180
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1181
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 3: So I think people do gotta go outside a little more,

1182
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 3: have to find outside. It's scary sometimes.

1183
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: Nah, man, it's listen, listen, you reap what you sew.

1184
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: If you remember, birds carry a lot of weight.

1185
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: Man. So if the tongue speaks negativity, the ass gonna

1186
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: follow negativity. Man. If you speak positivity and believe positive,

1187
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: negative don't have no way to find you. But if

1188
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: you just a negative nancy ass nigga, negative shit gonna

1189
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: find its way to you.

1190
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 2: I've been in this game thirty years.

1191
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: Knock on wood, bro I ain't never been in no

1192
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: club fight, no club incident. I've been all over the

1193
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: world ten times. You know where I got into. My

1194
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: only issue in this rap shit Marcy fucking projects. I

1195
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: knew this. It's only the niggas you know, unless you

1196
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: go out of town in front or some niggas you

1197
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: don't know. But the niggas you know, like hey, car

1198
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: you oh, you from here. You're not supposed to have

1199
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: made it without us. Get your ass back in the

1200
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: sandbox with us.

1201
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: So you deal with that.

1202
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: But going around, I always been aids to the believer.

1203
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: Think of speaker, you know, a music. We're gonna speak

1204
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: what we live and what we know. But majority of

1205
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: the time, I've never been one of those negative dudes.

1206
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: Like yo, watch out, the killers is outside.

1207
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: Man, y'all gonna have to show me.

1208
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna tell you an example of how the

1209
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 3: positivity could lead to negative. Right recently, about a year ago,

1210
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 3: I went to this club in Brooklyn. This my boy,

1211
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 3: he's a DJ from London, he moved to the States.

1212
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:28,479
Speaker 3: He said, y'all got this party.

1213
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: You never come. I got this party you never comes

1214
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: in Brooklyn.

1215
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 3: Like Williamsburg area. I said, oh, Williamsburg is safe.

1216
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: Let me go out there. No, it's not.

1217
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 3: I go out there. I go to the party. I

1218
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: go inside for fifteen minutes.

1219
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: It's great.

1220
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: These two kids, like three kids come up to me.

1221
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: They're young.

1222
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 3: They're like, yo, you CYfer sounds. They're like nineteen, you

1223
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: CYfer sounds. I say yeah.

1224
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: They're like, yo, you know my pops.

1225
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: No, it's good. Long. I don't like what people say.

1226
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 3: Goddamn, like you know about pops? I said, who's your pops?

1227
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 3: He told me, g nigga. I said, oh, yeah, that's

1228
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: my man. I said, tell myself.

1229
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: What's up? He said, yo, yo, we're here to make

1230
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: sure you good.

1231
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: You good?

1232
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 2: I said, I'm good.

1233
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bro.

1234
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 3: Two of them lift up, they shirts. They both got hammers.

1235
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 3: I said, they're like, yo, eighthing you need, we got

1236
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 3: you o G. I said, oh, thank you, well, thank

1237
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: you bye.

1238
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: That's right, Yo. Listen, I'm one of those guys. Don't

1239
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: be a nigga. I don't know, and show me the gun.

1240
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to be around you.

1241
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: Nigga.

1242
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: Get the fuck away from me with that pistol.

1243
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 2: I had a great time, bro, I warned up.

1244
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: It's time to go, Bro. Like and they showing love.

1245
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: But I said they ain't. Why whatever we need now?

1246
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: At nineteen I say, from nineteen or about twenty eight,

1247
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: that kind of love them niggas would have been. I'd

1248
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: have got them a Rockefeller chick. You damn nigga, you

1249
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: got what y'all too?

1250
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 2: Nigga?

1251
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: What let's go to Jacob right now? You kidding me?

1252
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: They'd have been recruited. But this me. Now, y'all niggas

1253
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: go that way, we going this way like, I ain't

1254
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: with it, so I avoid a lot of that shit.

1255
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: But let's ask you Ra as one of the best DJs, Yes,

1256
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: from Hot ninety seven doing reggae dance tall to doing

1257
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: the comedy everything, do you feel like you get the

1258
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: respect or to just do you deserve.

1259
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 2: Out of all the pears in the game? One hundred percent?

1260
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: Oh shit, he was gonna say one hundred percent. Yes, Yo.

1261
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened now. I want to say

1262
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 3: that I want to preface this. I love my life.

1263
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 3: I love everything I true, I love who I am,

1264
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 3: I love where I am. But I always wonder why

1265
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 3: I get left out of so many stories and situations.

1266
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 3: I don't know what I must have missed a step

1267
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 3: somewhere and again.

1268
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: This is not regret. I have no regrets.

1269
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 3: I just wonder why I don't get the love or

1270
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: credit that I from all the things I did.

1271
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: You put a lot into this game. Ten years hot

1272
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: in ninety seven, No. Seventeen was an intern, seventeen years

1273
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: Rihanna fucking played a major part and with the Ross

1274
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: getting a deal, major part. Nina Sky, major part, Dance Tall,

1275
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: major part of Dave Chappelle's career, major part in the

1276
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: cis like, Bro, you did a lot. I don't think

1277
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: people forgot or don't appreciate you. My personal opinion from

1278
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: a friend's perspective, looking, I think.

1279
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 2: You don't stay long.

1280
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: Enough to receive your flowers.

1281
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 2: That makes it.

1282
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is, because soon as you

1283
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: about to get your flowers, you like, yo, safe that

1284
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: nigga killing it. Niggare like, oh, I got a new

1285
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: building over here, y'all. Yo, y'all just saw me over here.

1286
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:52,439
Speaker 1: Kyrie's nigga, I build carousels. Now you don't get here.

1287
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: You're like yo, I just was telling him he's doing

1288
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: steing over here.

1289
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: That's what I think it is.

1290
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: You you move quick because You're the first that did

1291
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot, but you got off it so

1292
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: fast that I don't think people remember. They gonna remember

1293
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: now because a lot of people don't go back. You know.

1294
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: That's what I love about these podcasts, because people my

1295
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: fact check, this is my this is what I'm scared

1296
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: of God for big. I see a lot of our

1297
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: friends pass away recently. I'm so nervous about passing away.

1298
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: And then everybody goes on stage and tells all.

1299
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 3: This ship yo, and they go, I didn't know that

1300
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 3: safe did that? Say Okay, hey, talk about it. Now,

1301
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 3: give me my flowers now, flowers please? Why I still

1302
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 3: smell them?

1303
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: Man?

1304
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 3: But again, I have no regrets. I'm just saying I

1305
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,919
Speaker 3: am a trailblazer. I am a four A fore runner

1306
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 3: in a lot of different worlds.

1307
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: But I love what I do. Bro Like.

1308
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 3: I did a party after the super Bowl after Dave Chappelle.

1309
01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: We did an after party, and we did two nights

1310
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 3: after party. One night I was up in a balcony

1311
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 3: far from everybody. I couldn't see the vibe.

1312
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: It sucked.

1313
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 3: I felt rusty. I said, Dave, if we're gonna do

1314
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: this again, I gotta be down there.

1315
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: That's what the DJ. He goes.

1316
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 3: He tell the people, I said, put it down here

1317
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 3: to bro DJ for three hours, flawless, flawless.

1318
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: Like I was in it.

1319
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 3: Man, you can't be up there, spectator. I was like,

1320
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 3: I still got it because I don't J. I don't

1321
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 3: DJ as a as a job anymore. But I also

1322
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 3: have this DJ Should I do it?

1323
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: Comedy bro? I need a credit for that too. I

1324
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: DJ while doing stand up. That was crazy. That's why

1325
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, right, do you see comedy

1326
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: as like your final Like that's it. That's where I'm

1327
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: stopped this way.

1328
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm a retired do I.

1329
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 3: Mean according to how you talk about me?

1330
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: No?

1331
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: Probably not.

1332
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. The next after this interview, you might be on

1333
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: some I.

1334
01:04:55,840 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 2: Never My dream is my when I'm when I say I.

1335
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 3: Made it, it's I'm doing improv comedy one night right

1336
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 3: where that's when we make the ship up on the

1337
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 3: spot at a show running for like seven years. With that,

1338
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 3: then I do a comedy club, like let's say we're

1339
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 3: in Minneapolis, whatever, I do improv one night, comedy club,

1340
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 3: the whole weekend, DJA after party, and on Sunday do

1341
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 3: some kind of charity philanthropic work in the community.

1342
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 1: That's it. But I can do that now.

1343
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: I just wanted to be sold out when.

1344
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: I like, I don't want half a packed I want

1345
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: right now.

1346
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 3: I'm getting a lot of half packed comedy clubs and

1347
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 3: I'm blessed to get them, but I just want that

1348
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 3: to be full. But that's that's the dream. And like,

1349
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 3: I'm never not hip hop. Hip hop. Hip Hop is just.

1350
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: My culture, my religious who I am.

1351
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 3: Everything zoos off me is hip hop first because it's

1352
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 3: just who my DNA is. But then I take that

1353
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 3: into this comedy world. But now I would like to

1354
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 3: do TV shows, movies, all that stuff.

1355
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's all connected. It's the right time we got.

1356
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: You know, they got a whole department up at the

1357
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: building for that.

1358
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1359
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: Oh and yeah, I got just got the ideas. They

1360
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: got no pitch department. Let's go they pitch it the

1361
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: nation getting everything. Man, I'm about to I'm about to

1362
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: go steal me a position up there, like the fuck

1363
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm just do say, Man, I know how to pitch too.

1364
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 3: The fuck I can pay how to go now, yo,

1365
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 3: because dazz in them just saw me rock San Francisco,

1366
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 3: So you gotta go while it's because.

1367
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: If it cool off, they'll be like, what you did,

1368
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: what you've been doing last summer? Then now they want

1369
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 1: to check the analytics. Hey, d you're the algorithm because

1370
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: niggas hit you with that. Now you're the agarithm, Like,

1371
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: let's chuck you out, like what the fuck is the agorithm?

1372
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm right here like like, but yo, let me ask

1373
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: you this, like before we you know what I mean.

1374
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: I cannot say this to you because we people ask

1375
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: me this. What would be the best advice If you

1376
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: had to give one piece of advice to any upcoming DJ, comedian,

1377
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: any A and nor like because you wore many different

1378
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: hats A and R comedian radio personality, just DJing or producing.

1379
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: If you had to give one piece of advice to

1380
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: anybody that you say this that you wish you would

1381
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: have heard when you started, what would it be.

1382
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: It's not that I wish I would have heard, It's

1383
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 2: how I lived my life. I a lot of people.

1384
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 3: I come from, no connections, no family in the industry, Nobody.

1385
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 2: Even you had hole, you know, I mean, I wasn't

1386
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 2: a hole back then.

1387
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: It was not whole. Back we was making gift baskets.

1388
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: They forgot about that, buying Godiva chocolates and all this

1389
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: we had to put. You ever had put niggas use

1390
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: fake grass or Easter they ever used fake grass just

1391
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: on the regular Monday, Like, hey, this for the DJs.

1392
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: So don't think hove always been hole.

1393
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: That's what I don't people.

1394
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:08,439
Speaker 3: Initially work for free. You could get so much done

1395
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 3: if you get around somebody and work for free. I

1396
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 3: did a lot of bullshit work. I got sandwiches. I

1397
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 3: had to wait in the car. I waited in the

1398
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 3: car when there was no phones, no YouTube, no serious,

1399
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: no fucking streaming, was in the car listening to the

1400
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 3: hopefully BLS was playing a good song at the time.

1401
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: I don't say work for free for people always get caught.

1402
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: Up like I'm not saying forever, but I'm saying to

1403
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 3: get your foot in the door, off of your services right,

1404
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 3: be early, stay late, telling you a true die hard soldier.

1405
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 2: If you want to be an A and R, go

1406
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 2: be a A and R.

1407
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 3: Go Find some artists, package them up, make some songs,

1408
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 3: give that package to the you know, to a label

1409
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 3: or a manager or whatever. You know what I'm saying.

1410
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 3: And then if you get cut out. Understand it was

1411
01:08:56,120 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 3: the experience. Nah, clap that shit up, Oh, clap it out, Okay, experience.

1412
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 2: I take part of no criminal way.

1413
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: You talk about getting cut we're too old to get

1414
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: cut out. Clap that shit up.

1415
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the young people.

1416
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 3: But like yo, work like work in a club, DJ

1417
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 3: for free and kill it to the point where when

1418
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 3: the other DJ's late, you gotta stay on an extra hour.

1419
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 3: When I used to DJ in the tunnel, it was

1420
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 3: from nine to ten and Big Cap was supposed to

1421
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 3: get on a ten. Big Caps showed up, saw I

1422
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 3: was there. Next week, came at ten thirty, next week

1423
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 3: came at eleven. I was like, I'm supposed to be

1424
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 3: here an hour, rocking, rocking, rocking to the point where

1425
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 3: Flex was like yo, like your style comeing to the

1426
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 3: rail station helped me out.

1427
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 2: All that came from that. I eventually got my money.

1428
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, if you have no other way

1429
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:50,480
Speaker 3: in people need stuff done, man like off of that services,

1430
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 3: get your foot in the door.

1431
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: That's dope too that you gave Flexes props, because you

1432
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: know a lot of niggas been saying flex getting niggas

1433
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: clip there told about Flex got niggas hired. Bro. You

1434
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: know that's why I say we live in the world

1435
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: where negativity outshine positivity.

1436
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 3: Let me tell you about Flip one thing. All this

1437
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 3: shit happened when people got fired. Whatever Flex plays the game,

1438
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 3: that's a whole other level. There's a DJ behigh ninety seven.

1439
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 3: He called me and said, Yo, I don't know what

1440
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 3: to do people getting fired.

1441
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: Da da da.

1442
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 3: I said, how's the new boss? He goes The new

1443
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 3: boss is cool? I like the new boss? I said,

1444
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 3: how often you talk to him? He's like I talked

1445
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 3: to him like once a week. I called him d D.

1446
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 3: I said, Flex talks to him every hour on the hour,

1447
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 3: even on Sunday's right. You gotta work, man. Everybody spots

1448
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 3: up for taking if you slack it. That's how I feel.

1449
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 3: You gotta solidify your spot.

1450
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 1: Bro. He don't play that ship. He don't play that ship.

1451
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 3: He he stays on top of the people he gotta

1452
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 3: stay on top of.

1453
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: And delivers the ratings.

1454
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, when it comes to radio,

1455
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 3: the ratings is the only thing that matters. His ratings

1456
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 3: is sky high because he shows up and he does

1457
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 3: the work. Yes, he does play a lot of polities

1458
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 3: in the back.

1459
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: I just like that man, because you know, we live

1460
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: in the world where people be so quick the shoot

1461
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: at you then pull out the flowers for you.

1462
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 2: So I respect that of you. Like what's next?

1463
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: For safe? What you want to tell people? What's next?

1464
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: Anything coming up next? Don't take my carousel out there

1465
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 1: next week like carousels now.

1466
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 3: It's gonna be at the end of the Brooklyn brig. Honestly,

1467
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 3: I started a new show.

1468
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: It's called Pay your Friends, and his friends his respect mine.

1469
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 3: No, no, not just respect, his money too. But it's

1470
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 3: like pay your friends, pay your friends, love support. Like

1471
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 3: every time your friend get a new business or a

1472
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 3: new store, we want to go there and get the discount.

1473
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 3: No pay pay for the ship like you would pay

1474
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 3: at the at the fucking bench Balenciaga store. Fat So,

1475
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 3: I got a show called Pay your Friends. It's a

1476
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 3: new podcast. I only call it a podcast because that's

1477
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 3: what people are calling it. It's a show, that's right.

1478
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: This is a show. This is a show. And I

1479
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,520
Speaker 2: got a big birthday celebration.

1480
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 3: What is this gonna be on? Hopefully before April sixteen?

1481
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 3: Of course April sixteen.

1482
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 1: We don't got that many episodes in the Okay, so

1483
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: this is this is out, this is coming out.

1484
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 2: It's out now.

1485
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: It's coming out.

1486
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 3: April sixteen, The cph of Sounds, More Friends, More Life,

1487
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 3: Sorry I said it wrong, More Life, More Friends Birthday Show.

1488
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle editing out the fucked up part because my dude,

1489
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 2: biggie back there. Hold it, Damn, we don't play.

1490
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: We know what it is.

1491
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 2: What was fucked up?

1492
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: Because you said I said it backwards. But we ain't

1493
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna get that part in there.

1494
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 2: Fix it however you want. Yeah, we're gonna edit this

1495
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 2: shit up.

1496
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 1: We cleared, we shoot it up. You know what it is, y'all.

1497
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 2: This rock solid, this fucking sight for sounds legend.

1498
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: Like I said, man, give the legends the flowers while

1499
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: they still could smell them. Don't wait today in the air,

1500
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: because then we can't see them and we're not gonna care.

1501
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 3: You heard we outside, Man, this rock sound coming back.

1502
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 3: My feel because all they did, all we did was

1503
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,560
Speaker 3: talking about me. I got so many rock stories.

1504
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 1: Yo, he said, all we did was talk about me. Yeah,

1505
01:12:58,640 --> 01:12:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm interview with you.

1506
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: I got a lot of rock stories.

1507
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna expose you Let's go and exposed.

1508
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 2: Let's go expose your part two.

1509
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: My brother love.

1510
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 2: Appreciated man. It was dope, YO, and she's gonna be

1511
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 2: flying exact YO.

1512
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: This coming out before am sixteen. Hell Like. For more

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Speaker 1: name Memphis Bleak. You see anybody fraud and flagging