1 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Hey, what is up everybody? 2 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Guiltiest Charge Podcast, presented by the Chargers 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Podcast Networks. My name is Stephen and I'm your host 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: as always, and joining me is my guy Tyler. 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Tyler, what's up? How you doing today? 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: I'm doing very well. My students were very concerned for me. 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: They would walk into class and go, mister Shoon, are 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: you okay today? And I said, yeah, I'm all right. 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 3: Then some kids would go, hey, did you see the 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 3: game yesterday the Chargers lost, And I'd say, yeah, yeah, 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 3: I did see that game. 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 4: I was there. I'm doing okay. 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 3: Thankfully, work keeps us busy, so I'm doing all right, Steven, 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: how are you? 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm doing well. 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: It's always funny, like my family members and like friends 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: from college and high school and stuff like that. Whenever 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: the Chargers lose a game like that, they'll text me 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: and they're like, are you okay? 20 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: Like are you doing all right? 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, I just watched my team lose a game, 22 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: like I'm not dying. I'm fine. 23 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 4: Nothing dies, Yeah, yeah, for sure. 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: It's just funny though, like without fail like no, but 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: none of them ever text me when the Chargers win. 26 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: It's only when they lose. Are you okay, you're doing 27 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: all right? Yes, I'm good. I promise I can handle 28 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: a loss. 29 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm fine. 30 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: So obviously wish we were recording under a more optimistic 31 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: view of the Chargers, but we'll do our best to 32 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: pay a more positive outlook today. You guys are obviously 33 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: gonna be watching this on Wednesday after the Chargers lost 34 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: the Dolphins, so we're. 35 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 1: About midway through the week. 36 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: The team will be, of course starting their preparation for 37 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: Week two against the Tennessee Titans. So we'll have a 38 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: little bit of back and forth off of our takeaways 39 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 2: from the first week and also kind of looking ahead 40 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: towards some things that we would like to see changed 41 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: for Week two and kind of previewing that game. We 42 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: will also have a game ball segment at the end 43 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: of the show. I don't know if we clarify that there. 44 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: We are doing a charitable donation each week that we 45 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: do this, so teams don't do game balls after losses, 46 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: but Tyron and I want to take the time to 47 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: do that because we believe in kind of spreading the 48 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: goodwill there. So we will hand out some game balls 49 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: at the end of the show today before we dive in. Obviously, 50 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: Tyler and I are fans of the team, just like 51 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 2: you guys are. We are fortunate to have this platform 52 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: and very grateful for it. But the opinions that we 53 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: express on this show are not always reflective of the 54 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: Chargers organization. They are ours and ours alone. We just 55 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: happen to be creating content for the team. So that 56 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: being said, Tyler, let's dive into this week one defeat 57 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: the Chargers. Obviously losing thirty six to thirty four at 58 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: the hands of Miami Dolphins. We've had a little over 59 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: twenty four hours to sit and simmer about this game. 60 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 2: So Tyler, what's kind of your big takeaway from yesterday's performance. 61 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: I mean, unfortunately, the big takeaway is the big storyline 62 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: of the game, And unfortunately I can't start this. If 63 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: you're asking me what my big takeaway is, I can't 64 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 3: start by talking about the offense. 65 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: It does have to be the defense. On our live. 66 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: Stream after the game, we talked about the offense first, 67 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: but today I have to talk about defense because it 68 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: just became, you know, a bit more frustrating when you 69 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: see the numbers come out and you see, you know 70 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: what the Chargers did last year against the Dolphins compared 71 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: to what they did this year and how things have changed, 72 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: and the takeaway from everything that I've seen and now 73 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: you're seeing like Baldy breakdowns and Cody Alexander's doing breakdowns, 74 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: it's just evident that the Chargers were either underprepared or 75 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: unprepared for the game. Whatever they whatever the intention was 76 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: going into this game. And look, you plan as best 77 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: you can. The offense has of the Dolphins, they prepare 78 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: to and they were going to throw things at the 79 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: Chargers that they were not expecting that they had not 80 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: seen before. I get that, but it just looked like 81 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: throughout the entire game, the Chargers were not ready for 82 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: this game, a game that they had plenty of months 83 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: to prepare for. Not that that's all you do for 84 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: entire offseason, of course, right, you're trying to solve issues 85 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: you had against Jacksonville, right, But they were unprepared and 86 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: it was a surprise to see. The more I asked questions, 87 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: the more I looked around charts, craft stats, whatever, it 88 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: was such a surprise to see how much the game 89 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: plan was so different from last time, where the Chargers, 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: you know, the Dolphins couldn't do anything, and the Chargers 91 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: had fewer guys on defense. So just looking at the numbers, 92 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: the stunt rate of the Chargers in this game went 93 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: for to you know, cutting half from the last game 94 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: from thirty five percent about seventeen percent. The big storyline 95 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 3: of this, you know, the one that I think fans 96 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 3: are most frustrated with, is that the man coverage snaps 97 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: went from you know, they played man four times last 98 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: year to fifty two times this year, and you know 99 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: it didn't quite work. You know, Baldi broke down, Khalil 100 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: Mack has lined up on Tyreek Kill on first and 101 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: five and believe it or not, Tyreek Kill converted on 102 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: that one. 103 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 4: And you know, so you continue from there. 104 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: Again, the more you unpack this kind of the more 105 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: frustrating it becomes, because you Joey Bosa with penalties, then 106 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: you have JC Jackson with the you know, got the 107 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: interception that went out of the four yard line. Then 108 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: there was a penalty on the hail Mary. You know, 109 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: the stunts weren't really working as much as maybe you'd like. 110 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 3: The blitz rate for the Chargers. I don't know about 111 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: the blitz rate, but the two linebackers. They had zero 112 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: pressures on their eight blitzes, whereas like someone like last 113 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: year Drew Trankle would have two. So it was just 114 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: it didn't work. Whatever they were doing, whatever the intention was. 115 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: And I'm not going to sit here and pretend like 116 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 3: I know the answer to this. 117 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 4: I don't. But it didn't work. 118 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: And the tune of it, the more you hear, the 119 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: more you be dan It Popper's articles. 120 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: You know, someone brings up this that or that's that. 121 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 3: You know, I'll try to go through something really quick 122 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: just to paint a picture as much as no one 123 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: wants to hear this. 124 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 4: You can skip thirty seconds on the video if you'd like. 125 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: The Chargers get to get up the most yards they've 126 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: allowed since two thousand and six, the most net passing 127 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: yards allowed in franchise history fourteen explosive passes, which is 128 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: the most NFL since twenty eleven. As Daniel Popper pointed out, 129 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: since two thousand, teams that have rushed for more than 130 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: two hundred yards and allowed fewer than one hundred rushing 131 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: yards and did not turn the ball over and won 132 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: the turnover margin by at least two were one hundred 133 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: and ten and oh they never lost until that game 134 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: to had the fourth most passing yards in Week one 135 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: in NFL history, and the Chargers are currently dead last 136 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 3: in yards, points allowed, and yards per play, and in 137 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: particular yards per play, they're worse by two point four 138 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 3: yards worse than the Pittsburgh Steelers, who were at five 139 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: point nine, Chargers at eight point four. So I hate 140 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: to rehash all of this, but I think we do 141 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: need to understand, and especially looking at even some comments 142 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: from fans after our stream, like oh, it's an overreaction 143 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: to Week one. 144 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: You know they'll be fine. Defense played. 145 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,119 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know if that was entirely the case, 146 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: and unfortunately, I just don't think whatever the plan was, 147 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 3: it didn't work. And as it said on the live stream, 148 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: it's the last thing I'll say about this. As I said, 149 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: and people seem to respond to this, I'll do it again. 150 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: I'm a teacher, and so if I have honors kids, 151 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 3: and I do, I have three honored kids. Hello, if 152 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: you're watching, if I have them go take a test, 153 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: a state test, and they all vombit, that's on me, right. 154 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: There are so many all pros in this defense, great players, 155 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: highly paid players, highly drafted players. It should have been better. 156 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: So I'm not really breaking a new ground here. I 157 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: think every Chargers fan who watched the game kind of 158 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: feels the same way. The defense did not show up 159 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: at all like I would have thought, and certainly not 160 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: like they would have thought. 161 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 4: And it was a disappointment. And I hope that moving forward, 162 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 4: I hope this is it hits the one game oops. 163 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: You know every year there's a team that upsets another 164 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: team or something. Oh my gosh, this team's falling off, 165 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: and then they win the Super Bowl. I hope that's 166 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: the Chargers. But for right now Sunday, in terms of 167 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: the defense, it was nothing but a disappointment. 168 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 169 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: I think whatever your opinions are about Brandon State, I 170 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: think objectively, he is a quality game planner. You know, 171 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,119 Speaker 2: that's something that we talk to Sean's I had last week. 172 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: You know, he has this ability to you know, manipulate 173 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: his game plans to the strengths and weaknesses of opposing teams. 174 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: That's something that we've seen, you know, last year, whether 175 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: it was against the Dolphins, whether it's against the forty 176 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: nine ers. You know, he is willing to change things 177 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: like he's not just going to stick in his same 178 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: shell defense and just sit there and let those teams 179 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: do whatever they want. You know, which is kind of 180 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: a main criticism of the Vic Vangio tree is that 181 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: they kind of just stick to what they know, stick 182 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: to that's too high shell defense, and teams can kind of, 183 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: you know, pick their spots and manipulate it at a 184 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: really high function. Brandon Stately is not at that point 185 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: in his career like he is able to mix things up. 186 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: He plays man coverage, he plays single high, he plays 187 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: Cover three, he plays Cover six, he plays quarters, all 188 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: the stuff. If you would have told me that he 189 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 2: was going to change things from what he did last 190 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 2: year against the Dolphins to what he did this year, 191 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: I would have been like, Okay, Like I can picture 192 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: some things. Maybe you are dropping eight more often, Maybe 193 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: you are blitzing at a higher level to try and 194 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: get to to a quicker Maybe you're increasing the stunt level. 195 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: Stuff like that. I would have understood, you know, taking 196 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: another chances. I would have understood. But we've seen Tyreek 197 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: Hill do this to several teams who want to play 198 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 2: man coverage. I mean, you know that Monday night football 199 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers a couple of years 200 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: ago stands out to me where Todd Bowles just sat 201 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: back in man coverage and Tyreek Hill went for two 202 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: thirty or whatever it was. I had the three touchdowns, like, 203 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 2: this is what he does against man coverage. And so 204 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: that's the disappointing part for me, is that they went 205 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: so far in the opposite direction of what they did 206 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 2: against the Dolphins last year that it feels like they 207 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: were just trying to do too much. They were trying 208 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: to be too creative, overthinking this this process and trying 209 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: to you know, forced to it maybe into different looks, 210 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: I guess. But when you have these kind of receivers, 211 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: we have this kind of quarterback who plays in rhythm, 212 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: you have to do things to disrupt that rhythm and 213 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: decreasing the stunt rate, decreasing the zone coverage rate, that 214 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: doesn't really feel like the way to do that to me. 215 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: You know, people were in my mentions today saying, like, 216 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: you know, we've seen Brandon Stating in the past use 217 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: Joey Bosa against some guards every once in a while. 218 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: I can't remember a time that we saw that. So 219 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: it just it was a frustrating game plan to sit 220 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: there and watch, and Brandon say did say that they 221 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: made some adjustments late in the second half and that's 222 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: where they started to drop eight. But even then it 223 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: was still single coverage against Tyreek Hill, and some of 224 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: that is a credit to Mike McDaniel for isolating those plays. 225 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: But it just was was really frustrating, and it's learning 226 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: to sit there and watch just Tyreek Hill, another bomb, 227 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill, another bomb, Tyreek Hill, another twenty yards and 228 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: sixteen explosive passes. According to True Media from Daniel Popper, 229 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: that's a ridiculous amount for somebody who prides themselves on 230 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: putting a roof on the coverage and putting a roof 231 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: on opposing passing attacks. 232 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: It was just it was tough to watch. 233 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: It was and like, there are some positives to take 234 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: away from yes from yesterday's game, but I think Brandon 235 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: Staley departed a little too far from what he truly 236 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: believes is their core philosophies on defense, and unfortunately it 237 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: resulted in a career day for Tua and for Tyreek. 238 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, this lack of stunt rate, the lowering of the 239 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: stunt rate, cutting it in half and switching to more 240 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 3: man that indicates that you probably feel really confident in 241 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: your guys to win their individual matchups, and to a 242 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: certain extent, I get that, especially if you're talking about 243 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: the defensive line. They probably should have won more of 244 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: their individual matchups than they did. And I was honestly 245 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: surprised by the numbers that came out today in terms 246 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: of the pressures. The win rates wasn't weren't great, but 247 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: I didn't expect seventeen pressures from that game. It didn't 248 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: feel like seventeen pressures, that's for sure. It certainly felt 249 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: like no sacks. So I understand who you feel like, 250 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: you have your guys back, You have Joe, you have 251 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: Derwin and theory JC was gonna be healthy and all 252 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: that sort of stuff, and so you could play more man. 253 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: But like you said it, it was such a departure. 254 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 4: It was a surprise. 255 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: And then the Chargers just they had no answer. And 256 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: I'm sure there was more tried than I could possibly imagine. 257 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 3: There's more that's attempted and talked about and schemed and 258 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: discussed than we'll ever know. We don't operate on that 259 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: same level. These players, these coaches do. They understand more football. 260 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: They forgotten more football than we'll ever remember. But whatever 261 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 3: it was, it didn't work. So I hope moving forward, 262 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: you know, it does work. First off, and at least, 263 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: I'm curious they would do this a game again. If 264 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: they had this game again tomorrow, what would they do differently. 265 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: I'm curious if they would continue with what they did 266 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: during the game or maybe the second half of the adjustments, 267 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: or were they find something in the middle. Maybe they realize, Okay, 268 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: the individual matchups that we thought we could win, to 269 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: play more man, fewer stunts, we gotta generate some more things, 270 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: different way, different looks. So I'm curious what they would do, 271 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: But you'd have to see even the postseason to do that, 272 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: and hopefully they can get there. 273 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully, And this could end up being a one 274 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: off situation for the Chargers defense. The Dolphins did the 275 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: same thing to the Ravens last year. Granted that was 276 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: the Ravens first year and a new defensive. 277 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: Scheme, and. 278 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: I think that was Week two and the Dolphins were 279 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: I think trailing by twenty one in the third quarter 280 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: and just kind of roared back like crazy. So maybe 281 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: that's a possibility here, But I think that Brandon Staley 282 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: and this defense needs to get back to what their 283 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: core philosophies are, which is make things difficult on these 284 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: opposing quarterbacks and give them different looks as opposed to 285 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: just lining up and playing man coverage justly up and 286 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: rushing one on one. And I would like to see, 287 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 2: you know, going forward, you crank that stunt ranked back 288 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: up to what it was last year, even with your 289 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: all of your guys. It's just gonna make things easier 290 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: for guys like Joey Bolson Kluemak to win more frequently. 291 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: Crank that zone coverage backup, and especially as jac kind 292 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: of works his way back into things, Assante's playing a 293 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: new position. I think you just get back to what 294 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: you know, make things a little bit simpler, and I 295 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: think that can really benefit your defense going forward. 296 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a shame, not a shame, but the next 297 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: offense of the Chargers face is nothing like the offense 298 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: that they just faced, So. 299 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 4: You can't we'll never really know what the. 300 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: Adjustments might be from week to week because because it 301 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: should be a complete departure going into next game, because 302 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: it's a completely different offense you're facing, and I'm hoping 303 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 3: they don't score thirty six Tennessee not looking so hot. 304 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: But we'll talk about them, you know, throughout the week. 305 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see. But I hope it's a one off, 306 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 4: you know. 307 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: I think my reservations really are more so when I 308 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: pushed back against fancy, say it's just just week one, 309 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: don't ever react. Is that the last time we saw 310 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: them it wasn't so hot either on defense, and that 311 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: was a rough performance as well. So if I could 312 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: just say, if they closed out last year and it 313 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 3: was whatever, fine, but going from what happened last year 314 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: as a fan to what we just saw on Sunday, 315 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: it was rough. And my last time in the stands 316 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: was against the Chiefs, and we all stood in the stands, 317 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: and I guess we're a fan podcast. 318 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 4: I'll give my fan perspective. 319 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: We all stood in the stands and the Chiefs had 320 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: the ball and they were driving. I don't think a 321 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: lot of fans were cheering because there's just a not 322 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: a lack of faith, Okay, yeah, sure, a lack of 323 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: faith that the Chargers defense would get it done. And 324 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: I hope that they're able to because it was a 325 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: bummer leaving that game, you know, having been excited about 326 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: the offense and what they did, and they lost, and 327 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: I just think that it was a missed opportunity for 328 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: the Chargers to build momentum for their season, to build 329 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: momentum for their fans, because guess about the next game 330 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: is the Raiders game, and we're already outnumbered as is, 331 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: and I hope that the Raiders lose a few games 332 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: and the Chargers win a few games so it's a 333 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: bit more even. But they had an opportunity to sell 334 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: themselves as like, this is our year coming to these games, 335 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: and it's kind of a bummer that the defense let 336 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: them down again, which is what I said the last 337 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: time I saw them play, which they let them let 338 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: them down again again. I hope it's a one off, 339 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: but the defense has to figure this out for the fans, 340 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: for themselves, and for Justin Herbert and this offense who 341 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: scored thirty four. 342 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll kind of switch gears with that one. With 343 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: the offense, we saw a historically good dig from the 344 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: Chargers offense. So diving into some things here, first and foremost, 345 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: I have not watched the all twenty two tape, and 346 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: I'm really excited to do that mister Rashawn Slater, Welcome back, sir. 347 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: It was a true pleasure watching you play football again. 348 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: According to Pro Football Focus, Bradley Chubb, who primarily rushed 349 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: against Rashawn's did not record a single win, which PFF 350 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: qualifies as getting pressure under two point five seconds. Rashaan 351 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: Slater pitched a shutout in his first game back from injury, 352 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: so they did credit him with an allowed pressure, which 353 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: I feel like is probably off of a stunt or 354 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: something like that. But the way that this offensive line 355 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: played should be really really encouraging, and I know it 356 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: didn't end great. Brandon Saley did say today that on 357 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: one of the last sacks that there was a missed 358 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 2: pass protection from the running back. I don't know if 359 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: that was Elijahatson and Austin Ekler or Joshua Kelly, but 360 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: there was a miscommunication on one of the last pressure 361 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 2: packages that led to one of those last sacks that 362 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 2: ended the game. So, outside of a couple plays here 363 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 2: and there, I thought the offensive line really set the 364 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: tone and dominated. Benjamin Solak of The Ringer pointed this out. 365 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 2: The Chargers rushing attack had one of the best performances 366 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: of any rushing attack in like the last twenty years 367 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 2: that this has. 368 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: Been a thing. 369 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: So if you look at the the rushing success rate, 370 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: which is you know, several people keep track of that, 371 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: the Chargers had a rushing success rate of sixty six 372 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 2: point seven percent, which was tied for the seventh best 373 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: mark since rushing success rate started beginning charted. Eric Smith 374 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: pointed out that they had a EPA per play generated 375 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: EPA per rush generated of zero point three zero, which 376 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: he equates to basically a Patrick Mahomes drop back from 377 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two when he won the MVP and won 378 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. So the Chargers rushing attack was incredibly efficient. 379 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: It was explosive yesterday. Again, haven't watched they all twenty two, 380 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 2: but the numbers for the rushing attack are incredible. And 381 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: this is something that we saw throughout the preseason when 382 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: they ran for six hundred yards in three games and 383 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: we were all kind of wondering, like, okay, like, what's 384 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: this going to look like with starters in this game? 385 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: What's this going to look like against starting defenses? And 386 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins defensive front is no joke. They've got 387 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: a lot of dudes, and their linebacker corps is really 388 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 2: good too. Vic vangerls a great coach and they ran 389 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: for two hundred and thirty yards and had one of the 390 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 2: most efficient and explosive rushing days in the NFL over 391 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: the last twenty three years. So Rashaun Slater, hat tip 392 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: my friend Kellen Moore, and this rushing attack also deserve 393 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: a hat tip. So again rightfully, so, I think you 394 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: focus on the defensive start, but the Chargers rushing attack 395 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: should really give Chargers fans some confidence about where this 396 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: offense can go from here. 397 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, just looking at the EPA per play, like you 398 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: mentioned Rush EPA point three to two two. The next 399 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: best was funny enough Dallas, but with point zero five seven, 400 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 3: there is such a gap on this graph of looking 401 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: yet that's huge first and second, that's a huge difference 402 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: between one and two and overall, like the passing offense 403 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: was was ninth and EPA per play, but the Chargers 404 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 3: were or third overall, mostly because of that rushing attack. Hilariously, 405 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 3: between the Rams and the Raiders, just like we all predicted, 406 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: those are the top four offenses from this from week one, 407 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: of course, as we all predicted, but now Rashaun Slater 408 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: was awesome. I think I might have seen the pressure 409 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: that he quote unquote allowed. Again, you and I have 410 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: watched rewatched games and charted and felt differently about the 411 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: number of pressures either generated or allowed, and it was 412 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: like one pressure after three seconds. I feel like after 413 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 3: a stunt, like at some point you lose these and 414 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 3: I think that's maybe what it was. But overall, the 415 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: rushing attack was phenomenal to the and I said it 416 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: on the stream. It was so good chargers fans around 417 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: me were going, we need to throw it more. Let's 418 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 3: where's the deep passes. It was so good they could 419 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 3: run it forty times and score thirty four points. It 420 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 3: was so good that fans were frustrated they were running 421 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: it so much despite the fact they were scoring thirty 422 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 3: four points. You look at the gaps from from left 423 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 3: to right, so from left end to right end, the 424 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: averages for the running backs were from left to right 425 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: seven point eight yards, eight yards, six point two yards, 426 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: four yards, thirteen point eight yards, four yards, four and 427 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: a half yards. There was no weak spot, nothing in 428 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 3: there was under three, you know, under four yards. It 429 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: was four, it was six, it was seven, it was 430 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: thirteen point eight. You know, in the preseason we're we're 431 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 3: dealing with like small sample sizes, right, Like Josh mc 432 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: kelly's numbers were great, but he had like twelve rushes 433 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 3: and he had the one big run that changes things. 434 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: We have a bigger sample size to work with now, 435 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 3: and it didn't make a difference. 436 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 4: Like the Chargers just kept going. They were so good 437 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 4: rushing the football. 438 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: And you talked about Rashaun Slater, I'll continue with Jamari Sallier, 439 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 3: a player that I wasn't so sure about, you know, 440 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 3: switching to right guard, Now, how's that gonna look? And 441 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: then the preseason maybe wasn't the best. I think the 442 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 3: standout was more we'll clap in Zion from those games 443 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 3: and Lizen, Lindsley, Pipkins, Zion. 444 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 4: All were great rushing. You know, we're blocking for the 445 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 4: run game. 446 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 3: But Jamari was the guy kind of had my eye 447 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: on on the rewatch and it was awesome, Like he 448 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: went from he just was able to tap back into that. 449 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm a five star recruit. I went to Georgia. 450 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 3: I was a bulldog, you know. I shot down Aiden 451 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: Hutchinson at tackle once and he was just moving dudes, 452 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 3: like every time they're running, he's able to flip and 453 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 3: move and flip his hips and just create alleys for players. 454 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 3: I believe on the big Eckler run, it was him. 455 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: I believe on Eckler's touchdown, this only touchdown of the 456 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: game that was behind him. 457 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 4: It was awesome. 458 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 3: So the rushing attack was phenomenal, and I think in particular, 459 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: and maybe you have to fill me in on what 460 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: the athletics said, but I love the way that the 461 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: Chargers utilized their tight ends in the run game. And 462 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 3: it's one of those things where you go, oh, yeah, 463 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 3: that's why people are paying millions of dollars to call 464 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: plays in the NFL and to scheme things up in 465 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 3: the NFL. 466 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 4: Because I was so worried about, Okay, let's get this 467 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 4: tight end. We need an inline tight end. 468 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: He's got a block, and he's got a block. Well, 469 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: he's got a block edge rushers and Nikellen Moore kind 470 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: of went, we don't really have one. So let's not 471 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 3: force them. 472 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: To do that. 473 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: Let's just let them, you know, we don't have to 474 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: make them force them to stay one on one and 475 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: block edge rushers. Let's get them a running star. Let's 476 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: have them pull, Let's have them climb. Let's start them 477 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: off of motion. Whatever take on linebackers, take on dbs. 478 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: So you know, Trey McKitty was in the backfield on 479 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 3: that Joshua Kelly run or on Eckler's touchdown, I can't remember. 480 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 3: Kelly had a second and five that went for fifteen yards. 481 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: Parham was pulling on that one. He was leading the 482 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 3: way the way they moved the pocket on boots, you know, like, 483 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 3: of course the tight ends was blocking on. 484 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 4: The back side the way they used the tight ends 485 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 4: in this game. 486 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: But in particular, the run game was really really strong, 487 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: and it didn't show up necessarily in the stat sheet. 488 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: It wasn't like, oh wow, eighty yards, one hundred yards, 489 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: that's great, But the way they blocked was awesome. 490 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: So again there was there was no bad gap. All 491 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 4: the linemen blocked well. 492 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 3: The titands I thought, blocked really really well, and then 493 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: Eckler and Kelly just ran really really well. I believe 494 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 3: Eckler and Kelly are either first and fourth or second 495 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: and fifth or something like that in rushing yards in 496 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 3: the league right now. I remember last time the Chargers 497 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 3: had two running backs who were in the top five. Well, 498 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: that hold the whole season. Probably not, But then again, 499 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell Kellen Moore in this group that 500 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: it's not going to happen. So so they're both top 501 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 3: seven in yards per attempt, yards after contact per attempt. 502 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 3: Eckler is I think third among NFL players in total yards. 503 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 3: It's just great, man like this rushing attack. You know, 504 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 3: we saw the six hundred one yards in the preseason, 505 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 3: but that's the six hundred one yards in the preseason. Well, 506 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: here's two hundred yards in the regular season in my debut. 507 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 3: And it just elevates the floor for what the Chargers 508 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 3: can do. And you know, we said it on the 509 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: live stream. Herbert will figure it out. Herbert will throw 510 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: games with four touchdowns, five touchdowns, you name it, four 511 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: hundred yards on the way. But for now, they have 512 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: this run game that they can rely on. It was 513 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: kind of nice to see Herbert have like a fine 514 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 3: game and they scored thirty four points. 515 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 4: You know, special teams came through the line until the 516 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 4: last freaking drive came through. They ran well. It was 517 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 4: great to see that Herbert. They put up already four 518 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 4: points and Herbert didn't have to do a whole lot. 519 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: That was great. To see. 520 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned the way that they used the tight ends. 521 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: It was a lot of isolating a lot isolating them 522 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: against linebackers, against the corners, against the safeties. It just 523 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: made a lot of sense based off of, you know, 524 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: what those guys are most comfortable with. It's a lot 525 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 2: of it felt like a lot of like Steven Anderson 526 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: type blocks, which makes sense because that feels like what Gerald, 527 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: Everett and Stone Smart and all these guys are comfortable with. 528 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 2: We saw will Clap get a rep at full back. 529 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: I think Foster Sorell had a rep as an extra 530 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: offensive lineman too, So it just made everything made sense 531 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: with the way that they were attacking the Dolphins on 532 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: the ground, and that's how you have to beat a 533 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 2: team that employs the vic Van Geo style defenses. Run 534 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: the football and create explosive plays out of those looks. 535 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: They didn't pass the ball a lot, obviously, Justin Herbert 536 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: only attended thirty three passes, but the way that they 537 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: were able to run the football was so much fun 538 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: to see. They needed to do that against this team, 539 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: I think to kind of set the tone for the 540 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 2: rest of the season and show everybody like, hey, like 541 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: this is different. This is a different Chargers offense now, 542 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 2: like we are capable to have these counterpunches and run 543 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: the football when we need to, because that was such 544 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 2: a big issue previously and it just made life so 545 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 2: much harder for Justin Herbert. Now you have this ability 546 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: to run the ball forty times and design forty carries 547 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: and go out and rush for two hundred and thirty 548 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: yards whenever you want to. 549 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: So it just was. 550 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: It was a great performance by Killen Moore, great performance 551 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: by the backs. Austin Eckler currently second in the league 552 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: and mistackles forced according to PFF. 553 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: We'll see. 554 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: His ankle status is a little bit up in the 555 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: air right now, but Joshua Kelly had a great day 556 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: as well. Both of those guys are in the top 557 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: eighteen in yards after contact per attempt, which. 558 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: Joshua Kelly told Argent on our show a couple of years. 559 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: Ago that that's kind of like the statistic that they 560 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: focus on for running back is that ability to create 561 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: yards after contact. Rick Smith also pointed this out too. 562 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: They had eighty eight yards of their two hundred and 563 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: thirty before contact, which speaks to quality quality day from 564 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 2: the offensive line up front. So Again, I understand, like 565 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: we're so used to Justin Hubbert just airing it out 566 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: and throwing the ball fifty times, But you have to 567 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: have these kind of counter punches to you maintain an efficient, explosive, effective, 568 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: top five offense for the whole season. And that's just 569 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: not something that we saw this week. So I don't 570 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: think they're gonna run the ball forty times against the 571 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans, who arguably have the best. 572 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: Run defense in the league. 573 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but this week against the Dolphins, this was exactly 574 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: how you had to draw things up to effectively beat 575 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins defense, and the Chargers offense was able 576 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: to do that. 577 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, they may never need to do this for several weeks, 578 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: but they have the option to do it. How great 579 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: would it have been last year in the wild card 580 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 3: game for them to just be able to go so 581 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 3: all right, let's flip to this part of our game. 582 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 3: Now we're up by this many points. Let's just run 583 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: it and they can't stop us. And that's not a 584 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: feeling I can recall having with the Chargers in a bit. 585 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: We saw that in flashes in twenty twenty one, like 586 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 3: they closed out the Raiders game by running. 587 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 4: But I don't recall seeing just like the first drive. 588 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 3: Of the game for ninety six yards or whatever, it 589 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 3: was ninety four yards to only the last driver they 590 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 3: had to pass it, but otherwise they just ran it 591 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: at will. 592 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 4: I don't recall seeing that. 593 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: In some time, we've had head coaches who have wanted 594 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 3: to run it and run a lot. You know, that's 595 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: a Anthony Lynn dream for forty rushes in a game, 596 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: but they were never I don't recall ever being as 597 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: efficient as this. And the system is in place and 598 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: the scheme is in place already to where if he 599 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: won't be this, but if Austin Eckle has to miss time, 600 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: Kelly Spiller Dotson, whoever ends up being I feel like 601 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: those guys can can pick it up almost no problem, 602 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: because again, if you're getting eighty yards before in contact, 603 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: you're doing something right on the offensive line with your scheme. 604 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 3: So you know, and shout out, Joshua, Kelly, you know, 605 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if we're gonna one of us is 606 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 3: gonna pick him for the game ball. 607 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 4: But it was the first time I watched live. 608 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: And sometimes you guys are far down on the far 609 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: side of the field, It's the first time I ever 610 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: watched the game and. 611 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 4: Went which running picket back is that? 612 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: Is that? 613 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 4: Is that Echo? Or is that Kelly? 614 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: And sometimes you couldn't tell maybe the numbers duh, but 615 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: again far s out of the field that I'm kind 616 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: of blind. He just ran significantly better than I can 617 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: ever remember. And again it was difficult to tell sometimes 618 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: who was who because both were equally amazing. 619 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun to watch. 620 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: For sure. 621 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: That that rushing attack, I think is if you're looking 622 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: for some optimism, I think that rushing attack is what 623 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: you're hanging your hat on today as a charge fan. 624 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: So we'll pivot gears here a little bit kind of 625 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: looking ahead to the Tennessee Titans week Tyler, what are 626 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: some things or what's one thing that maybe outside of 627 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: what we've already talked about that you would like to 628 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: say change in week two? 629 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, there were a few times. And again have not 630 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: watched all twenty two. I've only watched this sitting in 631 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: the stand in the two hundred, So bear with me 632 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: here as I make these comments. But it felt like 633 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 3: many times Herbert did not look as comfortable as I 634 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: would have liked on some of the deeper drops, some 635 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 3: of the boots. He would sometimes just get out of 636 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: the pocket a bit too early on some of these drops, 637 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: and I felt like he could have stepped up. The 638 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 3: offensive line was was great the whole game, so I'm 639 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 3: not really sure what that was about. 640 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 4: There was that. 641 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: Third and one where he had a drop back and 642 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 3: he almost got a safety at the one yard line, 643 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: But that's not all on him, right there are moments 644 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: where if that same third in one play, there's not 645 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 3: a receiver open fast enough, or you could have just 646 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: run the football, but if you're going to pass it 647 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 3: in that situation, you know someone needs to be opening 648 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: a little bit quicker than the three four seconds. The 649 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: Herbert's dropping, dropping, drop and drop and dropping, trying to 650 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: just hold on wait till somebody gets open, and he couldn't, 651 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 3: and he almost got a safety because of it. 652 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 4: So it just felt like there weren't enough. 653 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: There wasn't enough like of a through line, which what 654 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: they wanted to do on boots, on some of the deeper. 655 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 4: Drops, et cetera. 656 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: Whether that's play calling, whether that's Herbert decision making, you 657 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: name it, it's not all on Herbert. But I just 658 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 3: feel like there were moments where you know Herbert can 659 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 3: do these special things and it just like it wasn't 660 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: quite clicking. And do I think it's a problem. No, 661 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 3: He'll figure it out. He always figures it out, so 662 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: I'm not worried. But I'd like to see the gut 663 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 3: that get I don't know fixed is the right word, 664 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: but just addressed. And then if I can add another thing, 665 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: I would love to see Quentin Johnson get the YAC 666 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 3: opportunities that others did during this game. I think if 667 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: you draft a player who doesn't, if nothing else is 668 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: good at yak use that. All respect to Keenan Allen, 669 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: God love him. 670 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 4: His deep ball. The deep ball that he caught was outstanding. 671 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 4: Go watch that route awesome. 672 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: Well, let's not give him too many screens after a 673 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 3: while and they can work, and I believe they did 674 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: a couple of times. But I'd like to see Quentin 675 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: Johnston get that. That's kind of why you drafted him, 676 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: So I'd love to see him get involved either in 677 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 3: Shalla crosser screens or whatever. 678 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 4: Get him some yock opportunities. 679 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a more concerted effort to get Quentin 680 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: and Mike Williams the football I think would be a 681 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: great thing going forward again, not a ton of dropbacks, 682 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: not a ton of attempts from Justin Herbert. It's a 683 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: number that I would expect to increase this week, as 684 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: you're not probably not going to want to get into 685 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: a fist fight against the Tennessee Titans and run the 686 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: ball forty times, So airing the bat a little bit. 687 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: I think it makes a lot of sense this week, 688 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: and I think we'll see Kellen do that. That is 689 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: something that I really enjoyed watching of his over the 690 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: summer when studying the Cowboys offense, was how he could 691 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: pivot his game plans to each week and have them 692 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: be pretty drastically different. 693 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: So this is a week I expect. 694 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: To be a heavy passing attack kind of offense for 695 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert and company. 696 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: So I do agree. 697 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 2: I think Justin was a little bit indecisive at times, 698 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 2: and I think that maybe the Dolphins were giving him 699 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: some different looks. I'm not quite too sure about that 700 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: until we watched the All twenty two, but they just 701 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: trust things a little bit more, I think would be 702 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: easier for. 703 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 4: Him and. 704 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: The offense too. 705 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: I think had some little clunky moments in short yardage situations, 706 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 2: which is to be expected in the first game of 707 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: the season with the new offense, but when you get 708 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: into a third and one situation, going empty is probably 709 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: not what I would like to see going forward. But 710 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: you know, especially with the way that they were running 711 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: the football, so some things that change there. Defensively, I 712 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: don't want to repeat myself too much, but I would 713 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: like to see Eric Kendricks get a little bit more 714 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: involved in a more downhill approach that is the strength 715 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 2: of his I think it felt like there was not 716 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: a lot of designed. 717 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: Opportunities for him to rush the passer. 718 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: I think that is something that I would like to 719 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: see change going forward. 720 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 3: I believe it was four for each of the linebackers, 721 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: for Murray and for Kendrick, so I think drew again 722 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 3: against the Dolphins it was six, I want to say, 723 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 3: but we've seen that ten to hover like above five 724 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: and six something like that, So yeah, that'd be great. 725 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 3: This whole game, I feel like, is can the linebackers 726 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 3: get downhill coming up? 727 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: Because you've got. 728 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: Derrick Henry and again I'll respect to Hopkins and Burkes, Brooks. 729 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 4: I love Treylon Burks. 730 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 3: But it's about stopping the run of this game, so 731 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,959 Speaker 3: I hopefully they can get downhill and make that work. 732 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Tyler. Anything else you want to add 733 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: about looking ahead to Week two before we get to 734 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 2: some of these game balls. 735 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 3: Not necessarily, I guess maybe statistically Again, have not watched 736 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: the game on all twenty dude, it's a whole different beast. 737 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 3: But I believe the Chargers three starting defensive tackles neither 738 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: registered a tackle nor a run stop against the run 739 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 3: against the Dolphins, and that's not gonna cut it against 740 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 3: Derrick Henry and the tight where last year, like Sebastian 741 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 3: Joseph Day was sensational that game. 742 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 4: So more of that. 743 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 3: It's one that's one game, you know, Will that hold 744 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 3: across the entire year? Probably not, you know, obviously they 745 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 3: won't get zero every game, but got to be better 746 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 3: than zero, that's for sure. 747 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 748 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: I do think the Dolphins run game is very perimeter 749 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 2: oriented to It was a lot of outside zone looks. 750 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 2: Brandon Thorne pointed out they did this concept called the 751 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 2: wind back where they would fake one way and then 752 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: everybody kind of spins around and goes the opposite direction. 753 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: They were clearly trying to get to the Edges. I 754 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: don't think that's really going to be the case for 755 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry. But this is again, the style of the 756 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 2: fights that the Charger is going to be in over 757 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 2: the first four weeks is really funny to me. You 758 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: get the air it out Dolphins, you get the probably 759 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 2: pass the ball twenty five times Titans because they're just 760 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: gonna run the football all the time. You get aired 761 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: out Vikings, and then back to the Raiders who are 762 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: going to try and run the football a lot. So 763 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 2: it's a very interesting contrast over the first few weeks 764 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: that you know, the Chargers defense is going to get 765 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 2: an opportunity to respond, and like we said, hopefully it 766 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 2: is a one off situation and this becomes just something 767 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: that we are not super concerned about down the road. 768 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: Hopefully they figured out. 769 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: All right, Tyler, who is your game Ball selection of 770 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 2: the week. Again, this is this has a little charitable 771 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 2: effect to it. Tyler and I each week are going 772 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: to make these selections and then give some donation in 773 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 2: honor of these players to the Chargers Community Fund. If 774 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: you feel like joining us, feel free to do that. 775 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: Obviously definitely not required, but Tyler and I are going 776 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 2: to do it, so we want to have some fun 777 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: with it. 778 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: Tyler, who is your choice this week? 779 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 3: I'm stealing with Shaun Slater before you can. I think 780 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 3: watching the game, you know, as a coach or as 781 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 3: a teacher. Sometimes I don't feel this way, but sometimes 782 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 3: people will say that, you know, you're getting paid to babysit, 783 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 3: and I think Rashaun Slater is also getting paid to 784 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 3: babysit sometimes because he just handles the edge rusher it 785 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 3: no problem. 786 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 4: He just kind of hangs out and everything's taken care of. 787 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 3: They don't do anything. He puts them on the ground, 788 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 3: they go to sleep, you know. All that sorts of 789 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 3: good stuff. 790 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 4: For Sean. 791 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 3: Slater was sensational in the run game, amazing in the 792 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 3: past game, and then pass protection amazing. Just it's a 793 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 3: different tier. It's he just operates at a different tier 794 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 3: than even the lineman on. 795 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 4: His own line who performed very well. 796 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 3: He's just different. I love watching the anchor, the grip, strength, 797 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 3: you name it. He can do it all. He did 798 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 3: it all. 799 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 2: Game ball to him, Yeah, I think that's fair. Just 800 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 2: it's such a pleasure to watch him play football again. 801 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see what he's able to string 802 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 2: together this year. I think he really could have pushed 803 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 2: for that first team All Pro nomination. Hopefully, you know, 804 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 2: the Chargers can help him out a little bit because 805 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 2: the forty nine er shuret look good and Trey Williams 806 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 2: sure looks good. 807 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: But we'll cross that bridge. 808 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 4: What else is new for me? 809 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 2: I think the choice has to be Joshua Kelly. Austin 810 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: Eckler had a really good game. I think you could 811 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 2: bucket this as Kellen Moore in the run game if 812 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 2: you really wanted to. But this was Joshua Kelly's best 813 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: game of his career, and I think this is really 814 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 2: kind of, you know, establishing why he's the choice for 815 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 2: the RB two position behind Austin Eckler. I love the 816 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: way that the two compliment each other. You know, we 817 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: got to interview him at training camp and he was 818 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: so excited about this rushing attack and how well it 819 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: fit his skill set. And to see him come out 820 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 2: like this and just really establish himself in a way 821 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 2: that we haven't really seen before, I think deserves an 822 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 2: extra shout out for him to get almost one hundred 823 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 2: yards for the first time in his career, for him 824 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 2: to really step up for Austin Eckler in the fourth 825 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 2: quarter with his ankle injury going. It just speaks volumes 826 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: to how far he has come and how well he 827 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 2: fits into this kind of scheme for Kellen Moore. So 828 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 2: I think we could see a pretty big year for 829 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 2: Joshua Kelly, especially Volstin Eckler going to miss some time. 830 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,919 Speaker 2: So just really really happy for the player, somebody who's 831 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 2: kind of taken some lumps over his first couple of 832 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: seasons but finally is in a scheme that can really 833 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: take advantage of his skill set running behind a great 834 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 2: offensive line. I'm really excited to see what Joshua Kelly 835 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 2: can do this season. So he's going to be my 836 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 2: choice of the week for the Game Ball. 837 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's hold us a training camp. Man. 838 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 3: I'm glad the running game is looking good because I'm 839 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 3: a running back and so that kind of benefits me 840 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 3: for the running running scheme to be better. And you 841 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 3: hear so much about oh, you know this scheme fits 842 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: me so well and new coordinator. 843 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 4: Yeah it's great. It's all good, but. 844 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 3: It really seems to fit him and suit him. If 845 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 3: nothing else, whether it's a play, plays that are called 846 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 3: or not, it just seems to help him with his vision, 847 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 3: with his decisiveness, with his cuts, everything that he does. 848 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 3: It just the intention, the the half a second faster 849 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 3: decisions that he makes. 850 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 4: Everything looks so much better. 851 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 3: There are so many times so he will not so 852 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 3: many times the he'll bounce outside or need to make 853 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 3: a move, and occasionally in the past that's like a 854 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 3: fumble or a loss or shoot only one yard. And 855 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 3: this time it was nope, I'm gonna go get fifteen 856 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 3: more yards. I'm gonna go get seven more yards. That way, 857 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 3: it was a different kind of performance from Joshua Kelly. 858 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 3: And if that's what we can expect, you know, every 859 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: game out of him, and especially if he's the number 860 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 3: one now, which thank goodness, something finally good happened for 861 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 3: my fantasy team, then. 862 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 4: The charges will be dangerous. 863 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 3: The charges will be dangerous because one great running back 864 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 3: and listen, Austin Eckler probably could have been the game 865 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 3: ball too. With one hundred and sixty four total years, 866 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 3: one great running back is great. 867 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 4: Two of them is pretty good too. 868 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Austin Eckler definitely could have get gotten some consideration 869 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 2: here too. This is kind of kind of just what 870 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 2: Austin Eckler does though, so I think some of that is. 871 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred and sixty four yards. 872 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 2: Eh, he's a great player, man, you know, he he 873 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 2: is what it is at this point. So yeah, I 874 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: think that was the right way to handle this kind 875 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 2: of show. And I totally understand the frustrations and I'm 876 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: right there with you guys about the defense. Hopefully they 877 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 2: can turn around, but I think this offense is truly 878 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 2: going to be a special unit this year. That's going 879 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 2: to keep them in every single game at this point 880 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 2: with their ability to run the football, you know, and 881 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: we'll see about the passing attack. I think it's going 882 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 2: to really express itself this week. People should be really 883 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 2: excited about the offense and I think that's that's going 884 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 2: to be a fun. 885 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: Unit to watch this year. Tyler. Any final thoughts before 886 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: we head out. 887 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 4: One last player, Cameron Dicker. You were great man, and 888 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 4: I knew. 889 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 3: If they got to that spot for you to kick 890 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 3: that field goal, you would have won it for us. 891 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 3: You're great, Thank you for being a good kicker. 892 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 4: And I'm still here. I'm still alive. 893 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, plenty, You're still alive. You're still You're still alive. 894 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 2: That's a good bar. Plenty of distance on that fifty 895 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 2: yard field goal too, I might add, Yeah, it looked 896 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 2: really comfortable back there. I'm excited to watch what he's 897 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: able to do this year. So that's going to do 898 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 2: it for us tonight. Thank you guys so much for 899 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 2: tuning in. Of course, make sure like the video subscribe 900 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,720 Speaker 2: to the channel. We'll be going live on our channel 901 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 2: later this week to really deep dive into the Tennessee 902 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 2: Titans and preview this game well. Plenty of content on 903 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 2: that side of things as well. Appreciate the Chargers for 904 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 2: allowing us to have this platform, Appreciate Greg Kim for producing, 905 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 2: Appreciate Tyler Ford. 906 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: Joining me as always, and we'll see you next time. 907 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: Bolt up.