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Speaker 1: And welcome to Lake Is Live.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday night, June seventeenth, Yes, the year of

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Speaker 2: our lower twenty twenty one jam packed show.

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Speaker 1: What do we have?

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Speaker 2: Well, we've got some scandal, We've got some scheduling.

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Speaker 1: What else do we have? We've got some portal, we've

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Speaker 1: got some swing games.

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Speaker 2: What we don't have is the dreaded O word off

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Speaker 2: season nowhere to be found tonight. You see corresponding on

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Speaker 2: the YouTube screen if you're watching there, what we're talking

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Speaker 2: about tonight, listen. I don't know how to put it.

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Speaker 2: Arizona State is toast. Might as well have had him

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Speaker 2: for breakfast this morning. We're going to get into some

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Speaker 2: finer details. Had a little bit of heads up on

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Speaker 2: what was coming with them, and still kind of do

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Speaker 2: have heads up. I don't think the barrel has been emptied.

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Speaker 2: Let's just put it that way on Arizona State. Yet,

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Speaker 2: how about all the playoff talk this week? And maybe

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Speaker 2: hidden behind the veneer and the big curtain of what

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Speaker 2: the main event has been, there was a little fess

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Speaker 2: up job done neighbors, and we're they Bristol, Connecticut. Your

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Speaker 2: former employer, direct Ameritith Collins ESPN had a little admission

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Speaker 2: or two this week, and I don't know if everyone

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Speaker 2: caught it, but if you didn't, don't worry.

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Speaker 1: This is the show for you.

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Speaker 2: Transfer a portal, Red flags a flying just as sure

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Speaker 2: as they are on the Gulf coast right now with

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Speaker 2: an impending tropical storm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got some red flags.

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Speaker 2: I got some numbers that I don't know if they're

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Speaker 2: gonna blow your mind, because if you've been watching lake Kick,

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Speaker 2: you know what's going on. But it's not gonna end

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Speaker 2: well and there's not really anything anyone can do about it.

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Speaker 2: All that, plus, we're gonna continue our swing game series tonight.

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Speaker 2: We've done the SEC. I think we're gonna do the

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Speaker 2: Big ten Sunday night. We're gonna do the ACC tonight.

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Speaker 2: I want to reiterate we've got some really good things coming.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you about some of them. I can't

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Speaker 2: tell you about a lot of them. You won't have

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Speaker 2: to wait long though. I hinted about this on the

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Speaker 2: pod this morning. By the way, the lake Kick Extra

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Speaker 2: podcast that I released this morning. We do them every

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Speaker 2: Tuesday Thursday morning. It's all Q and A. We have

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Speaker 2: gotten as good a batch of feedback from you already

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Speaker 2: through twelve hours on that podcast as we've ever had,

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Speaker 2: so much so that I may clip some of it

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Speaker 2: for the Sunday night show. There was one part in particular,

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Speaker 2: but I'm telling you about it because if you want

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Speaker 2: some behind the scenes interworking nuts and bolt stuff about

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Speaker 2: the show, I don't have time to talk about it here.

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Speaker 2: I do have time there. You might want to go

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Speaker 2: listen to that podcast from this morning. Only other requests

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Speaker 2: before we get started. Sub to the channel and like

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise the show's free. Let's kick it off. Arizona State.

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Speaker 1: Just wow, wow, wow wow.

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Speaker 2: We were told early in the week by George Reister

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Speaker 2: on Twitter through a cryptic tweet, which is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I love the art of the cryptic tweet.

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Speaker 2: We were told there was a major bombshell about to break,

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Speaker 2: presumably out on the West coast, and it was on

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Speaker 2: the verge of happening, and it was going to destroy

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Speaker 2: a legacy. Now, immediately a lot of attention went to

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Speaker 2: organ I did a little feeling out, got some information

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Speaker 2: going to be until like six hours before the story broke,

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Speaker 2: and boy did the story breaker this week? It was

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Speaker 2: Doug Haller with the athletic Bruce Feldman hopped in there.

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Speaker 2: Bruce Feldman had some really good stuff on top of that.

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Speaker 2: But man, Pete Famil's story, I'm going to read you

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Speaker 2: some of it in just a second.

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Speaker 1: He dropped a bombshell and it.

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Speaker 2: Was all just boom, boom boom over the span of

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Speaker 2: And I just anytime I'm told that, I got to

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Speaker 2: I fully believe it. I don't know how anyone in

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Speaker 2: Just to summarize, if you're not up to speed on

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Speaker 2: NCAA instituted dead period. It was fifteen months long, and

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Speaker 2: so you couldn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't do what you normally do in the season.

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Speaker 2: You could not have recruits on campus, you couldn't schedule

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Speaker 2: The only difference between most programs in Arizona State is

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Speaker 2: Arizona States has screwed it. We're in Tempe, maybe no

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Speaker 2: This is from the peat Famil story on Yahoo Sports.

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Speaker 2: the athletic because they've got some good stuff there too.

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Speaker 1: But just listen to the details.

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Speaker 2: There's a word included here that I never thought we

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Speaker 2: would be using within the context of college football. An

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Speaker 2: anonymous person sent a dossier There's that word, of dozens

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Speaker 2: of pages to the Arizona State Athletic Department and included screenshots, receipts, pictures, emails,

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Speaker 2: all related to numerous potential violations.

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Speaker 1: The documentation includes.

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Speaker 2: Specific evidence of multiple examples of high school prospects taking

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Speaker 2: this was the normal allegation. The normal allegation would be

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Speaker 2: dollar amounts that players have been paid. That's not the allegation. Remember,

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Speaker 2: the context is very very key here. We were in

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Speaker 2: The dossier, according to sources, lays out pieces of both

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Speaker 2: question in a second last part. Here, sources said members

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Speaker 2: of the football program deliberately, blatantly and consistently broke rules

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Speaker 2: related to hosting players, including Herm Edwards meeting with recruits,

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Speaker 2: and that source added evidence included pictures of visits including

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Speaker 2: and this is not to be left in the dust,

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Speaker 2: The question you should have is how in the world

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Speaker 2: you how disgruntled former employees, that's how that happens in

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Speaker 2: this case. Coaches also, I think a current staffer was

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Speaker 2: was the big and blatant miscalculation that HERM Edwards made.

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Speaker 2: They had done some good things out there, they had

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Speaker 2: Now we sit here on the heels of a bombshell

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Speaker 2: reporter multiple reports. I don't know how in the world

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Speaker 2: anyone on that staff survives HERM Edwards or elsewhere. How

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Speaker 2: Antonio appears is the name that I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people inside our industry are thrown around because Antonio appears,

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Speaker 2: although not the face of Arizona State football, was actually

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of the determining factor for why

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Speaker 2: of animus directed towards Antonio appears way too polarizing a guy,

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Speaker 2: This is not the only program now, I want to

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Speaker 2: reiterate this. This is not the only program that is

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Speaker 2: even currently under investigation for this now that's been whispered

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Speaker 2: firsthand knowledge of an investigation going well, firsthand, No, I

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Speaker 2: don't have firsthand knowledge of an investigation going on right now.

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Speaker 2: Secondhand knowledge, you do what you will with it. It's

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Speaker 2: not stuff we talk about on here, because second hand

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Speaker 2: then caution you, just cause that's true. Don't expect some

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Speaker 2: flood of subsequent stories. You remember that Arizona State deal, Well,

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Speaker 2: how about filling the blank university?

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Speaker 1: How about so and so state? It may happen, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: It's just a foregone conclusion simply because there is investigation

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Speaker 2: going on right now.

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Speaker 1: Because what Arizona State did is two part.

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Speaker 2: Number one, well, they blatantly violated protocol and NCAA rules.

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Speaker 1: But number two, they sprung so many leaks.

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Speaker 2: If we did not have Antonio appears running things roughshot

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Speaker 2: the way he was out there, then, I still don't

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Speaker 1: The only way you.

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Speaker 2: Get that kind of information keep in mind the investigatory

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Speaker 2: body we're talking about, as we like to stay around here,

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Speaker 2: incapable of taking a leak without getting in front of

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Speaker 2: its pants web. The only way that the NCAA acquires

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Speaker 2: more likely than not that this may end up being

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Speaker 2: an isolated incident in terms of you ever finding out

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Speaker 2: about it. I'll tell you what else stood out before

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Speaker 2: we move on, and how you know that they are

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Speaker 2: a cooked noodle Arizona State? Wait, how many people just

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Speaker 2: went on record? David Shaw is a head coach in

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Speaker 2: that conference. Didn't have any problem going on record, I

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Speaker 2: think Schwarbrick, the athletic director at Notre Dame, I think

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Speaker 1: They didn't even go anonymous.

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Speaker 2: They just went on record and they basically wagged their

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Speaker 2: is ever the case publicly, it is one hundredfold behind

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Speaker 2: and administrators privately bash each other and then publicly at

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Speaker 2: a media day setting they praise their entire conference.

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Speaker 1: And that's when they don't like each other.

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Speaker 2: So for people to be publicly in the role of

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Speaker 2: a head coach and athletic director just openly bashing another

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Speaker 2: university in another program, that means they've pretty much circled

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Speaker 2: the wagons, and the circle of the wagons is around you.

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Speaker 2: But it's not a friendly circle, all right, So let's

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Speaker 2: move on. Arizona State not in a good place right now.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, you see that.

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Speaker 2: it in a positive way.

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Speaker 1: So the college football Playoff expansion. That's been really the

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Speaker 2: I've done probably over a dozen radio hits about that

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Speaker 2: Absent playoff implications, you have to find something interesting about

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Speaker 1: I just want you to tell me.

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Speaker 1: That little playoff logo as your crutch all the time.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole game out there that has nothing to

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Speaker 1: I don't care if you work for them, or you

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Speaker 1: All right, that's as cheery as I can get. Right now.

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Speaker 2: Around the playoff, there are red flags flying. If you're

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Speaker 1: It's no secret or mystery to anyone. The numbers have

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Speaker 1: There is no way it works out.

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Speaker 2: can do about it. Transfer Portal, in combination with the

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Speaker 2: change in the structure of high school football recruiting this year,

441
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Speaker 2: it's going to be woof, That's what it's going to be.

442
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Speaker 1: We're gonna sit at.

443
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Speaker 2: A desk somewhere around here, hint, hint, and we are

444
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Speaker 2: going to be covering signing Day and we are going

445
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Speaker 2: to be looking at some incredible numbers, and I'm about

446
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Speaker 2: to share some of them with you right now. The

447
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Speaker 2: first good news that I want to share before I

448
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Speaker 2: get to some of the red flag stuff is we

449
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Speaker 2: had some big transfer portal movement this weekend Jackson State.

450
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go through these names right quick, because

451
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Speaker 2: maybe you were not up to date this It's been

452
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Speaker 2: a busy week.

453
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Speaker 1: Dalan Baldwin you know that name. You may not.

454
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Speaker 2: He just got done with the spring season at Jackson State.

455
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Speaker 2: He is transferred to Michigan. This was a big move.

456
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Speaker 2: This was the number five overall receiver in the transfer portal.

457
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Speaker 2: And remember Michigan lost Xavier Worthy, true freshman commit, lost him.

458
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Speaker 2: They didn't get him in. He's at Texas now and

459
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Speaker 2: this is a really, really good replacement. Baldwin nine point

460
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Speaker 2: two yards per reception according to our friends over there

461
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Speaker 2: at PFF this year, and him.

462
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Speaker 1: Along with Ronnie Bell.

463
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Speaker 2: Theoretically that gives you as much after the catch explosiveness

464
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Speaker 2: as Michigan has had in that receiver corps. Also recently,

465
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Speaker 2: Darwin Barlow, that's the TCU running back and he is

466
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Speaker 2: now at USC. This is why following the transfer portal

467
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 2: is so important. You can't take that two or three

468
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Speaker 2: month stretch of just tuning out of college football if

469
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Speaker 2: you want to be really dialed in, if you're ever

470
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Speaker 2: gonna bet this sport, for example, you can't be taking

471
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Speaker 2: these months off because this name, Darwin Barlow, in conjunction

472
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Speaker 2: with Keante Ingram, makes the sentence I'm about to say

473
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Speaker 2: actually plausible. If you were to have checked with me

474
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Speaker 2: three or four months ago and I said, excuse me,

475
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Speaker 2: USC fan, you know Marquis Stepp Stephen Carr.

476
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Speaker 1: You say, yeah, two of our tailbacks.

477
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna lose both of them, but here's good news,

478
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Speaker 2: you're gonna upgrade. It would have made no sense until

479
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Speaker 2: you find out, oh, we're getting Kyanta Ingram from Texas O,

480
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Speaker 2: we're getting Darwn Barlow from TCU.

481
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Speaker 1: Are seventh and eighth transfers, not in that order.

482
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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, it looks like the backfield, especially

483
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Speaker 2: at the tailback position, may have actually improved. We're looking

484
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Speaker 2: at a situation now where you take June, and I

485
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Speaker 2: think July is also going to be this way, but

486
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Speaker 2: especially the post spring period, the transfer portal, these are

487
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Speaker 2: where the most pivotal moves are happening.

488
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Speaker 1: So table that we're gonna get back to that in

489
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Speaker 1: a second.

490
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Speaker 2: Stacy Wilkins was at Oklahoma and this is a guy

491
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Speaker 2: who is a very good offensive tackle prospect. He was

492
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Speaker 2: a former top two hundred guys, a four star guy,

493
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Speaker 2: just a really good player on a stacked roster. So

494
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Speaker 2: there's not a big character concern or anything right here.

495
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Speaker 2: FSU is going to get a visit. It is well

496
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Speaker 2: documented how badly they need offensive lineman. Keep an ear

497
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Speaker 2: to the ground. I think we're probably gonna hear more

498
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Speaker 2: on that recruitment in just a little bit. And then

499
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Speaker 2: there's one that's wide open too, and that's Demetrius Robertson.

500
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Speaker 2: This was the top overall receiver in the twenty sixteen class.

501
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Speaker 1: Speed.

502
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Speaker 2: Speed, speed, that's what stood out about him. He was

503
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Speaker 2: out of somewhere over in the Savannah area and it

504
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Speaker 2: was kind of a weird recruitment, A lot of the

505
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Speaker 2: Southern schools were in it for him, goes all the

506
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Speaker 2: way to cal he ends up transferring back to Georgia. Well,

507
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Speaker 2: now he's left Georgia, and again I want to specify

508
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Speaker 2: there's not gigantic character issue here.

509
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Speaker 1: Really good kid.

510
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Speaker 2: I mean, you talk to folks like Jake roaj A,

511
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Speaker 2: Rusty Kip, the guys who covered Georgia for us, they

512
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Speaker 2: speak glowingly. They'll all three readily give you boom boom boom,

513
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 2: three character references. For him, he was just going to

514
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Speaker 2: be more a role player type who feels like he

515
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Speaker 2: can be a feature wide receiver. I mean, Demetrius Robertson

516
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Speaker 2: is the guy who everyone's waited to pop, and he

517
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Speaker 2: just hasn't popped. He's been good in flashes, but hasn't

518
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Speaker 2: popped and had that big thousand plus yard receiving season.

519
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Speaker 2: And there are people who think he can, chiefly among

520
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Speaker 2: them the guy in the mirror he looks at every morning,

521
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Speaker 2: and so he wants to land somewhere he can be featured.

522
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Speaker 2: Don't know where that's going to be yet. So those

523
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Speaker 2: are moves that have happened that you may or may

524
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Speaker 2: not have known about. That's the good news. The bad

525
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Speaker 2: news is the commitment rate from the high school level

526
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Speaker 2: is way down. I want you to listen to these numbers.

527
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Speaker 2: I saw Bud Elliott tweet these out this morning. We

528
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Speaker 2: are pacing right now for two hundred and twenty three

529
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Speaker 2: verbal commitments in the month of June.

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Speaker 1: Now, you say, what does that mean. That sounds like

531
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Speaker 1: a lot.

532
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Speaker 2: Well it would be until you look at the context

533
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Speaker 2: here we're showing it to you if you're watching on YouTube.

534
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Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, we had nearly six hundred verbal commits

535
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Speaker 2: this month. In twenty twenty, we had six hundred and

536
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Speaker 2: seventy six. Now, there is context in all of these years,

537
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Speaker 2: and this year is no different. We're pacing for what

538
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Speaker 2: roughly a third of what would be normal.

539
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Speaker 1: Now. Part one of that context is obvious.

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Speaker 2: We have right now a situation where we've just come

541
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Speaker 2: out of that fifteen month dead period. A lot of

542
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Speaker 2: guys haven't been able to take on campus visits, and

543
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Speaker 2: so right now you're trying to jam what would be

544
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Speaker 2: your past year into a month. A lot of guys have,

545
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Speaker 2: as we've said, five or six visits lined up, some official,

546
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Speaker 2: some unofficial. I expect as do many other people. A

547
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Speaker 2: wave of verbal commitments in July. There is no way

548
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Speaker 2: it can catch up though, So then you may say, well,

549
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Speaker 2: how do you know four hundred some odd kids aren't

550
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Speaker 2: going to all of a sudden commit because there aren't enough spots.

551
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Speaker 2: And that brings us to part two of the problem.

552
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Speaker 2: How is the super senior roster situation going to be handled?

553
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Speaker 2: So you remember the front end. The NCAA only has

554
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Speaker 2: to deal with the front end. You know, for example,

555
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: they can come in and they can tell you, or

556
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Speaker 2: they can tell us at Peyton State University, Hey, we're

557
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Speaker 2: passing a rule so we can look good in front

558
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 2: of the public that everybody who played last year, you're

559
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: gonna get another year. We're gonna give you a COVID year.

560
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Speaker 2: If you want to be a senior, we can call

561
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Speaker 2: you a super senior. That sounds great and you get applause,

562
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: rare round of applause.

563
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Speaker 1: For the NCUBA.

564
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Speaker 2: But what they didn't do is they didn't come around

565
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Speaker 2: on the back end and say, and we're going to

566
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Speaker 2: loosen your scholarship restrictions or numbers, and that eighty five

567
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Speaker 2: it's going to be a lot softer through the next

568
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Speaker 2: three or four years to account for that potential lump

569
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Speaker 2: that otherwise wouldn't have been on your roster. That is,

570
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Speaker 2: because we granted an extra year of eligibility. That is

571
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Speaker 2: a problem. And then you've also got a situation where

572
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Speaker 2: you got guys on stats having to look and make

573
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Speaker 2: a decision do I want to take a portal kid

574
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Speaker 2: or do I want to take a kid from high school,

575
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Speaker 2: knowing that these spots are more precious. We talked last

576
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Speaker 2: week about Sadderfield at Louisville being on the record saying

577
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Speaker 2: we only plan on taking ten, eleven or twelve high

578
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Speaker 2: school recruits this year. It was never the case before,

579
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Speaker 2: even programs like Clemson that notoriously take small classes take

580
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: more than twelve. But that's what we're looking at now.

581
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Speaker 2: So we've got hundreds and hundreds of kids in the

582
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Speaker 2: portal that simple mathematics would tell you are not going

583
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Speaker 2: to have a landing spot. And we got a ton

584
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Speaker 2: of uncommitted kids who also probably cannot find a spot

585
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Speaker 2: at the power five level to commit to right now.

586
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Speaker 1: And the worst part about this is there's.

587
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Speaker 2: No easy fix in sight, because no one knows how

588
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: to look at this and say, okay, well, the way

589
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: to fix this is, well, what do you do? You

590
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: know some people are looking at saying well, let's let's

591
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Speaker 2: raise the twenty five limit per year the initial counter limit,

592
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Speaker 2: and then you got pushback on that and saying, oh,

593
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Speaker 2: that just means that, you know, these big programs, they're

594
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Speaker 2: going to push their kids out the door in order

595
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Speaker 2: to make room for other kids. There is a pushback

596
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 2: to every conventional solution.

597
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Speaker 1: It's what I'm trying to tell you.

598
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Speaker 2: And so I'm looking, you know, I have I have

599
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Speaker 2: sheets and sheets right here.

600
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Speaker 1: Of transfer portal. Kids are in the transfer portal. It's

601
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Speaker 1: a mess. That's what I'm saying. It's a mess.

602
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, stay tuned on that. But it's not going

603
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Speaker 2: anywhere anytime soon. That is, That's essentially where we are

604
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Speaker 2: right now.

605
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Speaker 1: All right. So here's what I want to do.

606
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Speaker 2: I want to flip through these pages because I was

607
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: actually trying to look for something.

608
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Speaker 1: I want to do.

609
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: Our acc swing games. There they are, No, they're not there,

610
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 2: all right. So here's what we're gonna have to do.

611
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: I'm talking to our friends in Fort Lauderdale. Now we

612
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: are going to have to roll through them. And you're

613
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: gonna have to bring the graphic up for me because uh,

614
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: I don't have my notes in front of me. But

615
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: that's okay, because if I can see them, I've memorized them.

616
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: So here's what we try and do with the swing games.

617
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Speaker 2: Swing games in the ACC this year. What we're talking

618
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: about is not necessarily your biggest game. What we're talking

619
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Speaker 2: about is the game that when we look back come December,

620
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Speaker 2: we will look at it and say, that's actually the

621
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Speaker 2: game that, as it turns out, determined how the rest

622
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Speaker 2: of the season was going to go. So the Clems

623
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: and Tigers are first up. You don't have to look far.

624
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 2: Clemson swing game is obvious. It's against Georgia, it's in

625
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Speaker 2: Week one, it's right there in Charlotte. This is probably

626
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Speaker 2: the game that we'll be at. How did I decide this? Well,

627
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Speaker 2: if you look at the rest of Clemson schedule, which

628
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: we're showing you on the screen right now, if you're

629
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Speaker 2: watching on YouTube, do me a favor. You don't have

630
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Speaker 2: to have it in front of you, but I want

631
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Speaker 2: you to try and guess the point spreads for the

632
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Speaker 2: rest of those games, and then after you guessed them,

633
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 2: you can hit pause if you want to.

634
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Speaker 1: I want you to find me.

635
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: The game where they're going to be less than a

636
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: three touchdown favorite the rest of the way, and the

637
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: answer to save you some time, the most likely answer

638
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: is that game on October twenty third at pitt That

639
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: one right now, we would make them a seventeen and

640
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: a half point favorite. They could very well be over

641
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: a three touchdown favorite in every game they play after

642
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: the Georgia game. So out of a simple lack of

643
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: other options, we got to make the Georgia game the

644
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: swing game because you know what.

645
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Speaker 1: The reality is going to be. There will never be

646
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: a more unique mus headline.

647
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: Then if the Clemson Tigers lose in Week one, because

648
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: you'll see it plastered everywhere that following Sunday morning, did

649
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: Clemson cost themselves a playoff shot? Are they going to

650
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: be able to earn their way back in the playoff picture? Well,

651
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: I think perception versus reality is going to change as

652
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: the season goes on. But you're looking at the odds

653
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: right now for Clemson to win the ACC minus eight hundred,

654
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: it's insanity. I've got less than a minus eight hundred

655
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Speaker 2: shot to finish the show without choking.

656
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: That's how big their odds are. Right now in the ACC.

657
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Speaker 2: So it's going to be an interesting topic of conversation

658
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: now where they are the rest of the year if

659
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: they were to lose in Week one in relation to

660
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Speaker 2: strength of schedule, because that's an important metric here, strength

661
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: of schedule. It's not a twelve team field this year,

662
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: it's still a fourteen field. So that's the first team there.

663
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Speaker 1: Who do we have? Second? Who do we have lined

664
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Speaker 1: up there? Clemson?

665
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 2: By the way, that point spread that that could end

666
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Speaker 2: up being record breaking if that is indeed the case.

667
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: How about North Carolina? So North Carolina is a fringe

668
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: ACC contender, I guess you would refer to them. As

669
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Speaker 2: I looked up and down their schedule, I had a

670
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Speaker 2: couple of different places I could go. I picked them

671
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: Miami game. Miami comes into Chapel Hill. It's Week seven,

672
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Speaker 2: so this is October sixteenth.

673
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: This is a.

674
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Speaker 2: Very very big schedule, dynamic spot. You're looking at North

675
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: Carolina schedule right now. Carolina opens at Virginia Tech. They're

676
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Speaker 2: going to be favored there by about six I think

677
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: is where that sits right now. After that game, they

678
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: will be double digit favorites every game until this Miami game.

679
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Speaker 1: As it stands right.

680
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: Now, this can all change, and that Miami game is

681
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: going to be very competitive. Now when I say scheduling dynamics,

682
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: what I mean is that's gonna be Carolina's seventh game

683
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: in a row. Miami will be coming off a bye

684
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: week in that one, and that's going to be super

685
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: Bowl type situation for Miami. I mean, you know, they

686
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: got to prove that they have re emerged and reasserted

687
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Speaker 2: themselves in the ACC. So that's gonna be one where

688
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: it's kind of a survival mode for one a super

689
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Speaker 2: Bowl mode for the other one.

690
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Speaker 1: And you could look after that.

691
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Speaker 2: You know, they got notre dame after that, they got

692
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Speaker 2: As I said, Junia Tech in Week one. I think

693
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Speaker 2: the Miami game for North Carolina, that's the one you

694
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: gotta circle. That's the swing because if you lose that one,

695
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: you know, where are we after that? Well a lot

696
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: of it determines, obviously by what you've done before that.

697
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: I just almost unmuted myself here all.

698
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: Right after North Carolina we continue to roll on. I'm

699
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: not doing every team in the ACC, by the way,

700
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Speaker 2: but I am doing Florida State. So Louisville plays at

701
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: Florida State in Week four, that is September twenty fifth.

702
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: Now you look up and down the NOLE schedule, there

703
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: are a number of places you could go. A lot

704
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: of people would go Week one, the Notre Dame game

705
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: is where a lot of Florida.

706
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Speaker 1: State fans would go. I didn't go there.

707
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Speaker 2: I would caution you to be careful against Jacksonville State

708
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: at wake Forest is not going to be fun either.

709
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be more than a field

710
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: goal underdog at wake Forest. But I went with the

711
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: Louisville game, and the reason it has a lot to

712
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: do with what happens at wake Forest. If point spreads

713
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Speaker 2: were to hold. Let's just say for a second that

714
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: the number Vegas puts out to the actual final score

715
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: on those games. That means they'll be zero to one,

716
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: one in one, one and two. That means they would

717
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: come into this Louisville game one and two. It's anyone

718
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: down there interested in dropping to one in three. Because

719
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of positive momentum around the program

720
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: right now. A lot of it has to do with

721
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Speaker 2: recruiting and the potential health of Mackensey Milton. If he's healthy,

722
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: this is the kind of game you should win. Then

723
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: you got a winnable game after that Syracuse, and then

724
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: you get teed up for that North Carolina game.

725
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Speaker 1: You got Clemson.

726
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: But throwing down the schedule a little ways, this is

727
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: going to be a pivotal game. That Louisville game will

728
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: be very pivotal. It will determine whether you're talking about

729
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: fighting and scrapping to try and just get into Bowl

730
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: contention at the end of the year versus that eight

731
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: win territory and saying solidly, man next year is going

732
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: to be a really good year. We weathered the storm,

733
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: we got through this thing, and now twenty twenty two

734
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: is going to be the year where a lot of

735
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: the dividends starts to pay off. Third year with this

736
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: coaching staff. That's the kind of game you build on.

737
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: That's gonna be one of those pick them kind of spread.

738
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: It's going to be one or two points either way.

739
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: That Louisville game. That is a game that Florida State

740
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: badly needs have up next. I think we may have

741
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: had Miami up next. If I didn't have Miami up next,

742
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: that's the order we should have gone.

743
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Speaker 1: And no, I went Louisville. Okay, Miami's down the road

744
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: a little wayte.

745
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: I went Louisville at wake Forest, So you notice all

746
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: these don't sync up. I went Louisville at wake Forest.

747
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: And the reason I did that is because there's this

748
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: stretch for Louisville where they play a ton of games

749
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: where the spread will be under four points either way.

750
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm looking at their schedule on the screen right now,

751
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: and they go at Old Miss week one. We've already

752
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: got a number on that when I think Old Miss

753
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: is about a seven or eight point favorite. And then

754
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: they play an FCS team. Okay, if you're watching, If

755
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: you're not, i'll read it for you. If you're watching

756
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: right now, they go against Central Florida at Florida State

757
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: at Wake Forest, against Virginia against Boston College at NC State.

758
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: That's one, two, three, four five.

759
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: That's six games in a row where the point spread

760
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: will be four points or less either way.

761
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: So they're all going to be swing games.

762
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: You got the Clemson game, there'll be a fat spread,

763
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Speaker 2: but other than that, every game on this schedule is

764
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Speaker 2: going to be looked at as one that could be

765
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: one or just as easily lost, which makes Louisville the

766
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: biggest what we would call a hinge team in the

767
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 2: entire Atlantic Coast Conference. So I picked the wake Forest

768
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: game because it's a back to back road I mean,

769
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 2: it's in the middle of this gaggle of games. You

770
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: can really pick any of them. I picked the wake

771
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: Forest game. I think that one's going to go a

772
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: long way determining again, what kind of hinge team are

773
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: they because you're looking at eight and four, four and eight,

774
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: like this kind of schedule lends itself to all modes

775
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: of outcome.

776
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: Then we had Miami, didn't we So we had Miami.

777
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: I think I saw a sneak.

778
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: Peak there to wrap up the acc The Miami Hurricanes,

779
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 2: make no mistake about it. Their season will be defined

780
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: in that game at North Carolina. That is week seven.

781
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: We already talked about it once. It's October sixteenth, and

782
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: it's Canes ad Heels. Miami is rested, they're coming off

783
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: of bye. North Carolina is playing their seventh game in

784
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: seven consecutive weeks. And this is the opportunity that you're

785
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: gonna have as you look at who they open with.

786
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: They open with Alabama.

787
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 2: Gonna be tough to beat Bama if they do lose

788
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: to Bama, they're gonna be off your radarf for a

789
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: little while. Then they'll play app State, Michigan State, FCS Team, Virginia.

790
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: They'll be favored in all those games, and then they'll

791
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: go into a buye And this is their chance to

792
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: be shot out of a cannon after their bye week.

793
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: And you got to go in there and ambush someone,

794
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: and you got to go in there and really you

795
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: got to get a big time conference scalp to put

796
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: on your wall, because if they do win that game,

797
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: think about where they'd be. They be undefeated in conference play.

798
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: If they've taken care of business, they be undefeated in

799
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: conference play after that, and that have NC State, pitt

800
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech, Florida State, Virginia Tech, Duke.

801
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: Those are all winnable games from Miami, very winnable.

802
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are very very incorrectly

803
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: looking at Miamis schedule this year and you don't get

804
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: past week one, you say, oh, they ain't got a

805
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: shot this year. Well, look at weeks two through the

806
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: end of the season to tell me they don't have

807
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: a shot.

808
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: Miami's got a really good shot.

809
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: That game at North Carolina, that'll go a long wain

810
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: determining how big a shot they have. Very good show tonight.

811
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Speaker 2: You know, I want to give a lot of credit.

812
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: I didn't tell you this on the front end. We'll

813
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: just we'll just move on. We'll not even you know what,

814
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm not going to move on either way because we

815
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: had the Boston College graphic gun. So Boston College is

816
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 2: what we'll wrap up with. Boston College is a team

817
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: that's kind of like Louisville, only the entire schedule is

818
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: that way. Boston College has again a bunch of games

819
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: that could go either way. They got a bunch of

820
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: really small points spreads. The state of the ACC right

821
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 2: now is there's Clemson and then there's a big gap,

822
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: then there's North Carolina. Then there's another fairly large gap.

823
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: But Miami's kind of there, and I'm talking about strictly

824
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: in terms of power rating. But then there's just an

825
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: entire group of teams, like an alphabet soup of teams.

826
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: Boston College is right in there, and they do not

827
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: open with the toughest of roads.

828
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Speaker 1: They got Colgate UMass Temple.

829
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: I picked the Missouri game, so not of conference game,

830
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: but I picked that as their swing game. In Week four,

831
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: because that is the start of a stretch of games

832
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: where they're all going to be either very very short underdogs,

833
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: are very very short favorites. Missouri will forget about the

834
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: Clemson game. Aside from that one, n C State, Louisville, Syracuse,

835
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, FSU, Wake Forest, those are all

836
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: going to be competitive games, but games that Boston College

837
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: is going to expect to win.

838
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: JR. Covi's back.

839
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like everyone in the ACC's got

840
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: a returning quarterback. But that's going to be the start

841
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 2: of it. And so we're gonna probably get to that spot.

842
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 2: They'll probably be three and oh when they play Missouri,

843
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: are they going to be an inflated three? And oh

844
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 2: are they gonna be a legit three? And Oh that's

845
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: the game that you'll find out. So that's where you

846
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: take care of that storyline. Now we wrap it up.

847
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: That was handled surprisingly easy, and so what I was

848
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: about to tell you is we have an entire new

849
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: production crew tonight. It's not even in Connecticut, it's down

850
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: in Florida, and they just handled my screw up there

851
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: like pros. So I appreciate that from them. I certainly

852
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: appreciate you guys tuning in tonight. I am about to

853
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: saddle up and head down to Georgia for the weekend,

854
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: but we will have a show Sunday night, so don't

855
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Speaker 2: worry about that. In the meantime, again, appreciation, Make sure

856
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Speaker 2: you're liking the videos and subscribing on.

857
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858
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Speaker 2: We're almost at fifteen hundred and five star reviews the

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Speaker 2: Late Kick podcast feed too if you're on Apple, So

860
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Speaker 2: let's go ahead.

861
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Speaker 1: Just get right over that, Hume.

862
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Speaker 2: Just have it in our rearview mirror by the time

863
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Speaker 2: we again convene here on Sunday nights. Until then, for

864
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Speaker 2: Director Emeritus Colin Noah and the entire crew down in

865
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Speaker 2: Fort Lauderdale, I'm Josh Pate. Have yourselves a great rest

866
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Speaker 2: of your evening and a good start to your weekend.

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Speaker 1: And God bless