1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning. 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 2: Everybody's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We are 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club Law on the roaster head for Jesson. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: We got some special guests joining us this morning. We 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: have A J Johnson, She's back. Good morning, Good morning, 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: we have TRUSTA Smallwood Welcome. 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 3: Good morning everyone. 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: How you feeling this morning? 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 4: Ladies? 10 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: Listen, I'm in New York. It's cold as I'm on 11 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: the walk, but I'm here. 12 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: It ain't that bad if you came, but we could 13 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: go to been like thirty twenty degrees. 14 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 5: Well, you know, when you're bouncing between La and Africa. 15 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 5: Anything under seventy is like, I'm not going outside. 16 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 4: Okay. 17 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 6: Last time I saw you was then gone. Yes, but 18 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 6: you living there now? 19 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Well, I was back and forth then. 20 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 5: You just didn't know it because it was December and 21 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 5: everybody was hanging out. Okay, but I've been back and forth, 22 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 5: living and working since twenty nineteen. 23 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 7: Wow. 24 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got the email early. 25 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 8: I was ing it was everything happening politically, or you 26 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 8: just really wanted to just go and be, you know, 27 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 8: back in Africa. 28 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: I' would be honest. 29 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 5: It was it was I love the life that I 30 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 5: was developing there, but with the pandemic, I saw governmentally 31 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 5: and politically what didn't feel right to me. Not that 32 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 5: I knew what was happening, but just you know, in 33 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 5: terms of the and honestly, when Africa opened up late 34 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 5: twenty twenty, I got there around November twenty twenty. 35 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: So if you remember, we had been told, oh it's 36 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: gonna be two weeks. 37 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 5: Oh it's gonna be six months, yes, right, yeah, right 38 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 5: when it first started in twenty twenty. And of course, 39 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 5: you know you call on Monday, you did by Friday. 40 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: So I was like, so right. 41 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 5: So when I got to Africa and I'm watching CNN 42 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 5: from there, me and my African friends are like, well, 43 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 5: why is everybody dying? You know, we had masks on 44 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 5: just to respect it. But it was like, you know, 45 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 5: you take a pill and everything's fine. So I was like, 46 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 5: you know what, something's not right, and let me start 47 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 5: making moves now. So I started investigating like citizenship and 48 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 5: just what it would take to do business there and 49 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 5: to live there. 50 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: And so I'm bouncing back and forth. 51 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 4: So you're dual citizen. 52 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love it. Oh yeah, you've. 53 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: Been helping people get dual citizenship to saw Yeah. 54 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 5: I mean you know I when it says help just 55 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 5: to clarify because your people plugging my DM. 56 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: You know, who do I need to write? What do 57 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: I need to do? Listen? Can I pay you to 58 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: get my passport? 59 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 5: So I said, what that means is really, you know, 60 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 5: I'm taking groups over with retreats. 61 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: I got a retreat in July and a retreat in December. 62 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 5: Been doing that for five years, just to show you 63 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 5: the country, just to introduce it to you intimately, you know, 64 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 5: get you off a tour bus and out of a 65 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 5: group of one hundred and just really have you, you know, 66 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 5: meet people, really have real estate conversations, learn what it's 67 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 5: like to be employeed. When you're there, the rules are different, 68 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 5: the country's different, and so we can't keep going as 69 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 5: Americans expecting Africa to be America or to be run 70 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 5: like that. So I try to educate and share, you know, 71 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 5: form my life so that when it's time and you're 72 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 5: really saying I. 73 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: Want to make a move, I want to be a citizen. 74 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: You know what it really takes. 75 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: What got you to gun? And when did you first 76 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: go to Gun? It was like this is I like this, 77 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: this is where I want to live. 78 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 5: I told you this, John Bade, I actually went for 79 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 5: our birthday turn up. I was going through a breakup 80 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 5: and I was like, I need new I need new fragrances, 81 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 5: new freight, I need new men, new food, new clothes, 82 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 5: new music. And so I went in twenty nineteen and 83 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 5: I went with both Saint John and uh and Boris 84 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 5: and Nicole Kujo and they took a group of celebrities. 85 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 5: At the time, it was called Full Circle Festival, and 86 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 5: so I was part of that and that seven days 87 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 5: changed my life mentally, spiritually, nutritionally. 88 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: Health wise. 89 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 5: I mean I saw a difference in my hair and 90 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 5: skin and weight management. No lie, like in four days, 91 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 5: just because the food was different, you know, no chemicals, 92 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 5: no hormones, and we don't know what that's like unless 93 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 5: you spend time over there. And so I was like, oh, 94 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 5: I'm so down with what I'm seeing and feeling. And 95 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: so I just started saying, you know, I'm gonna sell 96 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 5: some of my air Mas bags. I'ma stop buying, you know, 97 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 5: i'ma stop buying some of the red bottoms, and financed 98 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 5: some flights over there and the more I went, the 99 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 5: more I learned about, of course, US as a culture 100 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 5: that we don't know, and the more I started embracing 101 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 5: the African that I am. 102 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: When you think about your overall talk about what y'all 103 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: here for. 104 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of catch it up. 105 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 6: When you think about your overall mental wellness, how does 106 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 6: living in Ghana affect it as a poll living into 107 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 6: the United States of anxiety? 108 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, you know, to get off 109 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 5: the plane and see everybody black. I'm not saying that 110 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 5: there's not you know, issues within us as people, but 111 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 5: they're they're sure not racial issues. 112 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: I don't experience personally. I don't experience any colorism. 113 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 5: You know, I'm still talking to a lot of women 114 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 5: who are dealing with you know, light skinned, brown skin. 115 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 5: You know over there it's you know, the black of 116 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 5: a berry, because our skin is so beautiful, and so 117 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 5: that part the safety of it. I'm not running from 118 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 5: the cops, you know, if I see sirens behind my car, 119 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 5: I don't get nervous. And even just the love, the 120 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 5: love and acceptance is different. The conversations are different. You know, 121 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 5: we're talking about you know, being African and what that 122 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 5: means and how do we get our resources back in 123 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,559 Speaker 5: our pockets as opposed to the man that's going on here. 124 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: So it just I'm just more comfortable. 125 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 5: I love it, and we're creators, you know, we're creative 126 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 5: creators naturally, so I have more experience with more collaboration 127 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 5: spirits as opposed to I got mine, you get yours, 128 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 5: which I think is a lot of what happens here, 129 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 5: and so I really love the collaborative energy I'm experiencing there. 130 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 8: How is celebrity different being in Africa versus being over 131 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 8: here in the seats? 132 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: I think, Well, I'm answered a couple of ways. 133 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 5: One of the reasons I'm back and forth is because 134 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 5: I feel and see my value there as an American celebrity. 135 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 5: And I don't mind that, you know, I know that 136 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 5: they value my work and my and my resume, and 137 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 5: so we're using that as well, teaching master classes and 138 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 5: things like that. But at the same time, I think 139 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 5: the African celebrity also wants some of the American celebrity. 140 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 5: So now after five years, I've got friends in the 141 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 5: business there and we're trying to you know, we're looking 142 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 5: for scripts. 143 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: You know, It's one of the reasons why I trusted, 144 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: not connected. 145 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 5: We're looking for international scripts so that we can join 146 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 5: forces and bridge and do more projects. So I think 147 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 5: there's benefits to the celebrity on both continents. But again 148 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 5: it's like, you know what happens if we come together. 149 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 8: That's the point, right, And I know that you guys 150 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 8: are here to talk about Fighting to Me, the Dwyn 151 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 8: Curry story. You mentioned Tressa and Trust. I know you're 152 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 8: new to the platform. I want to introduce yourself in 153 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 8: Mega My Media. 154 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 7: What you do, Yes, absolutely so I'm trust Siza Real Smallwood. 155 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 7: I'm CEO of Mega My Media, an independent movie production 156 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 7: company that's making our own way in the industry. So 157 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 7: where THEI gets cut, we don't get cut. 158 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. 159 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 5: And I want to make sure you all know how 160 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 5: important that is, which is why I'm paddling around with 161 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 5: marsis because you know, nowadays the studios are are governing 162 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 5: what we're doing, and they're not really that interested in 163 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 5: our stories. And so this Fighting to Be Me is 164 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 5: my second project with Mega Mind and Tresa. I did 165 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 5: a Christmas movie which I hadn't done. I'm trying to 166 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 5: check the boxes of things I hadn't done, and so 167 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 5: I did Holiday Heartbreak with Trusta and I was like, yo, family, 168 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 5: Family Run. I was like, this is good. It feels good. 169 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 5: You know, the project's good. I'm getting paid on time. 170 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: I'm like, I love this. 171 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 6: I love this doing Curry for the people who are 172 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 6: from dwyn Curry, you have a close relationship with well Dwenn. 173 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 5: Dwynn is a very well renowned and respected Hollywood stylist 174 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 5: from the nineties and honestly, not only is he known 175 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,559 Speaker 5: for styling celebrities like Lisa Ray and Yo Yo and 176 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 5: Missy Elliott, he was one of my first stylists when 177 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 5: I right after House Party when I hit you know, 178 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 5: but you know, in the nineties, you know, being gay 179 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 5: and and and being in that world wasn't necessarily as 180 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 5: accepted as it is now. And so Dwynn, looking for 181 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 5: love and acceptance, turned to a life of crime and 182 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 5: so yeah, and so in all of that celebrity and 183 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 5: and and Alcohlade, he became a convicted felon for credit 184 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 5: card fraud. And so now she in trance in the 185 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 5: trans community, is now an advocate, has done time and 186 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 5: is trying to teach the more visible community in the 187 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 5: LGBTQ plus you know how to survive and thrive actually 188 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 5: without it being criminal. 189 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: Breakdown some of the people that Dwin styled for, because 190 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: Dwinn style for a lot of people. 191 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean, I'm just naming a few us 192 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 5: and Lisa Ray, Missy, Elliott, Gabriel, Union, me DMX on there. 193 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 5: I mean, and I'm telling you in the nineties it 194 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 5: was like when doing I mean it's depicted in the movie, 195 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 5: when dwyn would walk in a restaurant a club, it 196 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 5: was like, you. 197 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: Know, the celebrity, the for real celebrity. 198 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 5: Had arrived, because you know, we look at styling now 199 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 5: as just you know, who puts your hair and clothes together. 200 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: But Dwynn was creating the images. 201 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 5: Dwynn was actually creating the celebrities in the nineties based 202 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 5: on knowing your image is how you walk in the room, 203 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 5: what you look like. And so in the nineties, a 204 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 5: lot of us, as black talent and the culture, we 205 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 5: didn't know that. 206 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: Like in the movie it depicts you saw where Yo 207 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: Yo Yoyo. 208 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 5: Was like, you know, I'm a rapper with braids in 209 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 5: a bandana, and Dwynn was like, oh no, no, no, 210 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 5: you got to be you gotta be a sexy and 211 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 5: change her whole career trajectory. 212 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 7: So it should respect her a lot even now to today, 213 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 7: you know, they reach out to her like, hey, we 214 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 7: don't want to let what's happening now and how people 215 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 7: are kind of turning their backs on a lot of 216 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 7: people in the community, and they're like, you know, you 217 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 7: did this for us, you changed us, and they're stepping 218 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 7: up for Oh yeah. 219 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 5: There's a lot of times I don't get dressed without saying, okay, 220 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 5: this shoe or the shoe, and. 221 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: I'll send her, I'll send her pictures and she'll be like, 222 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: neither wine do that. And I was like, okay, okay, 223 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: So that was. 224 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: Your story so important out of all the stories that 225 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: you could have picked or choose, Why was this story 226 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: so important to both of you guys? 227 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 7: I think for me personally, you know, it's a responsibility 228 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 7: of mine to tell the diverse stories that other people 229 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 7: won't tell. You know, we know that in Hollywood it's 230 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 7: really challenging to get a project greenlit. And so because 231 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 7: I have the capability of deciding, you know what I'm 232 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 7: going to shoot, and I have distribution, I say, you 233 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 7: know how can I change somebody's life? 234 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 3: What's the story? 235 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: You know? 236 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 7: And even with with Dwyn Curry, I had a lot 237 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 7: of people say to me, hey, why why would you 238 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 7: pick this in particular when you know that it's a 239 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 7: touchy subject in this day and age. And I said, 240 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 7: that's exactly why I'm tackling it, because nobody else is 241 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 7: going to do it. And even when you think about 242 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 7: the role that Aj plays in the movie s Twin's 243 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 7: mother who said, hey, I knew you were gay. I'm 244 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 7: not gonna say I agree with this, but you're my son. 245 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 3: I love you. People need to hear that now, right. 246 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 7: People are going through it, and you need to know 247 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 7: that there are people that are gonna believe in you, 248 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 7: that they're gonna speak up for you, despite what everybody 249 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 7: else is saying out here right. Trans yes, trans, And 250 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 7: and to be clear, you know a lot of people 251 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 7: are trying to figure out fully trans in terms of 252 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 7: having the sexual you know, assignment. No, but she is, 253 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 7: she is trans, but not without the sexual without the assignment. 254 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 6: I wonder how networks feel about that now, because when 255 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 6: you see you know, President Trump sign in executive order 256 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 6: basically saying that there's only two genders female now do 257 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 6: even network you want. 258 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: To touch them, They don't. 259 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: They do not. 260 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 7: And so this was a project that we shot last 261 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 7: year and we shot it in April in Washington, DC, 262 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 7: and even then people were like. 263 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: What is this Charlotte shooting? You know what's going on? 264 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 7: You know, but again, you gotta be courageous enough to 265 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 7: tell the story, but know why you're telling it. And 266 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 7: God is a god of love. I don't care what 267 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 7: any of us believe, you know. We wanted to show 268 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 7: that this is unconditional love. And if when you watch 269 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 7: the movie, you see it from Dwen's uncle who said, hey, 270 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 7: I don't like what you're doing. I don't like the drugs, 271 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 7: I don't like any of this, but I love you 272 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 7: and I'm going to see you through this. And I 273 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 7: think that that's something that we all need right now, 274 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 7: just unconditional love. 275 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: And after that was dope for that time period too, 276 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: because that time period was a time where I think. 277 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: Most people wouldn't understand. 278 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: And for the uncle to actually say, no, I don't 279 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: care what you what you do, what you're intruth, I 280 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: want you to go to rehab, right, but I love you. 281 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: I thought that was amazing and. 282 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 7: I don't want your riches because remember Dwenn tried to 283 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 7: buy the Lolas, right, yeah, because it was like, okay, 284 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 7: I'm getting money, Like now I want this is how 285 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 7: I'm going to get you to like me. And the 286 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 7: Uncle's like, yeah, I don't need that. I love you 287 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 7: just because I love you, and. 288 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say for me, honestly, the response for me, 289 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 5: even twenty years after doing Baby Boy, helped me decide 290 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 5: to do it. I mean, Dwynn was like, you have 291 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 5: to do it, you know, you have to play this role. 292 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 5: Tressell was like, there's nobody else. You have to do it. 293 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 5: And it wasn't. The personal connection for me to Dwinn 294 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 5: and his mom and made me say yes. I learned 295 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 5: with Baby Boy that so many women and so many 296 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 5: mothers look to that story for permission to be complex 297 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 5: and complicated in their mother's son relationships. 298 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 4: Mama gotta have a life too, come on now and so. 299 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 7: Right. 300 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 5: And so when I read the script and looked at 301 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 5: the story, I liked the complexity of their relationship. I 302 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 5: like the complicatedness of it, and you know, I feel 303 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 5: like that's love too, And especially in the in families 304 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 5: navigating the LGTQ community, and so I wanted to do 305 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 5: my part to give permission to these women, as mothers 306 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 5: and sisters and the families to know it's not easy, 307 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 5: and it's and it's complicated, but you have permission to 308 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 5: allow it to be. And so sometimes I think visually 309 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 5: can change something. I posted one of the scenes on 310 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 5: my Instagram yesterday where he first comes to tell me 311 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 5: on a phone call that he's gay, and so even that, 312 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 5: as simple as that is, like, that's the thing in 313 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 5: our culture, right, that's the thing in our community. 314 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: Do I say it? Do I not? 315 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 5: I interviewed a lot of gay trans families, and so 316 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 5: many gay men said they're fifty and they still haven't 317 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 5: come out to their families, right. So to me, it's 318 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 5: another one for the culture. That's what I've been saying. 319 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: I just got to ask one question. You just mentioned 320 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: house party and just made me think about it. 321 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: I said, baby boy, about how the reason. 322 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: I said the house party is my daughter's dance, right, 323 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: and when I show them movies with people dancing that 324 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: look like us as hip hop, we have to go 325 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: back to house party. And I've always wondered why don't 326 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: we do cultural movies like that anymore, Like we don't 327 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: see those type just do I have to be about 328 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: the boys in the hood in that, But like House add. 329 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 7: The ejects are not green lighting those types of projects. 330 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 7: So we have to come together right in our community 331 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 7: and invest with each other. Every single movie that I've 332 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 7: ever produced under the Megami Media banner, we have investors 333 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 7: that say, I'm gonna put this money up because I 334 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 7: want to see the movies that other people won't green light. 335 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 7: And that's what's making it happen. 336 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 5: And just think about what's crazy about that? Because House 337 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 5: Party just celebrated thirty five years crazy crazy, and we're 338 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 5: still talking about still doing the dances still, which I love. 339 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 5: And then you got the other side of it, baby boy, 340 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 5: it's celebrating twenty twenty two years. So it's like, if 341 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 5: you're looking for the longevity in your content, it's kind 342 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 5: of best to say, you know, why not why try 343 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 5: to fix what's what's not broken? In terms of that 344 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 5: just feel good Kmar films, the family films, So a 345 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 5: lot of times, you know, the studios are falling the trends, 346 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 5: that's not necessarily what's gonna be talked about in thirty 347 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 5: five years. 348 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 6: I think the nineties early two thousands was more focused 349 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 6: on black joy. 350 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I agree, And. 351 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 6: Then somewhere along the line it just became about let's 352 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 6: oppression in a lot of ways, you know what I mean? 353 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, sign of the government, 354 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 5: sign of the times, right, sign of where we are. 355 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 5: But I also think, which is what I love about 356 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 5: Trusted and Mega my media, They're not afraid, which is 357 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 5: how we came to fighting to be me. They're not 358 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 5: afraid to take a stance and say this story is 359 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 5: important for the culture. It's not getting done, and we 360 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 5: need to tell it, we need to talk about it, 361 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 5: we need to give support to it. And so here 362 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 5: we are, and it's you know, it's a visual support system. 363 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 8: I was gonna say, y'all touch so much stuff in 364 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 8: the movie. I literally kept sensing myself, why haven't I 365 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 8: heard of this movie? Why haven't I seen it? Some 366 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 8: of this stuff could go viral, the names involved, And 367 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 8: it was the first question I asked you this morning 368 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 8: when I saw you, like, yo, why I didn't hear 369 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 8: about this before you guys. 370 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 9: Were coming up here. 371 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 8: And it's unfortunate because it's really really good, Like the 372 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 8: she Dwinn is so fly and it's just so fabulous. 373 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 8: You're like, oh, okay, she was getting money with the 374 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,239 Speaker 8: with the Jesus the g aginsts. 375 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: Don't you love at least when I watch it what 376 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: I love? 377 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 5: Have you seen it yet, Shrmy, No, you see it 378 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 5: all other gay gangsters. I know, I know what I 379 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 5: love is watching you know, I love how brilliantly we 380 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 5: we went through the timeline with the fashion. If you 381 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 5: notice Mama Sen's hair changed from a certain bob to 382 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 5: highlights to platinum blond. 383 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: Platinum blon were now killing it, but. 384 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 5: Your platinum blond were now till like mid nineties, late nineties, right, 385 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 5: So even the timeline and the dress, you know Duin's hairstyles, 386 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 5: the blowout. 387 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 8: The leather wrap around top that you had on with 388 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 8: the cut. When Dwyn called you from jail, yeah, I 389 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 8: was like, oh, mom is getting money now? They sitting 390 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 8: there like this is like gangster fashion right now. It 391 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 8: was like drug lord fashion. 392 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 5: Yes, if you don't know the nineties, you kind of 393 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 5: got to go back and research that. But if you 394 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 5: really look at the nineties, that story, like you're saying, 395 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 5: the story is still with so much that's different stories 396 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 5: besides just what's happening? 397 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 8: What did you guys decide to omit from the movie? 398 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 8: Because you even mentioned names directly, like but. 399 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: One name, Oh, who is is? 400 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 4: Is? 401 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 8: Who is Zaire? Because okay, so the background, you gotta 402 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 8: given background for people. 403 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, so so Zaire was one of Dwynn's life loves 404 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 5: that that happened to be an upcoming rapper in the nineties, 405 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 5: really popular, but was gay and a Muslim and so 406 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 5: at the time, of course, you know, he wasn't out, 407 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 5: but they were madly in love and so you know, 408 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 5: in the story, it portrays that that situation and the 409 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 5: hardship of not just them being gay and lovers. But 410 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 5: how does this work and the fact that it didn't 411 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 5: then or or it doesn't now, we don't know. But 412 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 5: once again, just you know, we're talking about freedom. How 413 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 5: many of of of people are fighting their sexuality because 414 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 5: of their religious beliefs or their family you know, they 415 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 5: they're upbringing their family background. So that's one person in it. 416 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 5: I mean a lot of names were changed. There's a 417 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 5: couple of situations was. 418 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 8: I was like, wait, what who is it? Because y'all, 419 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 8: y'all directly say other people's names. And I'm like, that 420 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 8: was done a purpose, but I get, I understand. 421 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 5: And there's also that the whole reality start thing that 422 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 5: sent him, that sent her back to prison. That's the 423 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 5: name change. Okay, so you know you have to you 424 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 5: have to go fight the easter eggs as they call 425 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 5: him in cinema, the truth of the stories. But yeah, 426 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 5: there's a lot. There's a lot that we're hoping to 427 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 5: do a series because there's so much. I mean, let 428 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 5: me just say this. The apple doesn't fall. 429 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: Far from the tree. 430 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 5: We had an hour and a half to tell the story. 431 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 5: But listen, Dwinn, she gets it from somewhere and that 432 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 5: Mama sin, that Mama sin. 433 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: You know, there's a reason why she wants to say it. 434 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 5: No, you keep the money she was taking them first, 435 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 5: and them diamonds and the clothes and the move to 436 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 5: l A. 437 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: There's a lot going on, you know, y'all mentioned support. 438 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 6: Support is important because you can make these films, but 439 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 6: if nobody supports them, it won't make sense for you 440 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 6: to do them, and it won't make sense for studios 441 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 6: to buy them. 442 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 4: So how important is supporting? 443 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 7: Absolutely, we need the eyeballs on these projects. And so 444 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 7: you know, dwayn Curry is currently streaming on beet Plus 445 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 7: and we need everybody to go watch it. 446 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: We you know, Shameless plugged. 447 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 9: Last night. 448 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 7: AJ and I were in Times Square and we saw 449 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 7: the billboard come up right, and we were so excited. 450 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 7: I mean, it was just like, Okay, this is real. 451 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 7: People are getting eyeballs on it. You know, we had 452 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 7: a premiere last week, people started talking about it. But 453 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 7: to Lawren's point, we need more people talking about it. 454 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 5: And you know, I gotta say, even with these cultural, iconic, 455 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 5: legendary projects, from my experience, it takes time. You know, 456 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 5: for these stories that are not mainstream, it takes time. 457 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 5: You know, House Party was a small independent when it 458 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 5: first came out. Baby Boy didn't do it was a 459 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 5: sony picture, but it didn't really do great in the theater. 460 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 5: And so now everybody's like, whoa, these are iconic classics. 461 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 5: But you know, once again, you just have to talk 462 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 5: it up and market and you know, thank you guys 463 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 5: for having us because we you have to tell more 464 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 5: of the community. You got to watch, tune in, spread 465 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 5: the word, you know, watch, so we get more of 466 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 5: them done. 467 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 6: Have you ever turned down a film because it wasn't 468 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 6: good for business because you want to create art, right, 469 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 6: but it's still a business. 470 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 4: You ever say yourself like that might be a little tough. 471 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, truly, I definitely think about distribution before I ever 472 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 7: shoot anything, you know, and so it's it's always keep 473 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 7: in mind independently is my money? So that means you 474 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 7: are really thinking this through in terms of can I 475 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 7: get this money back? 476 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: Where can we go? Who's going to support it? 477 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 7: And doesn't have longevity because when you own your films 478 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 7: and perpetuity, like right now BT owns the rights to 479 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 7: Duane Curry, Well, five years from now, you can start 480 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 7: licensing that product to another platform, and so you have 481 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 7: to think, you know, ahead, ahead of the game going 482 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 7: Okay in ten years, who will still want to see 483 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 7: this project? 484 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 5: And that's why she says it's important to own it 485 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 5: because once the contract is up with a network, you 486 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 5: go someplace in do what you want with it. 487 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 8: Well, have you ever seen the meme Aja of there's 488 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 8: a video of you in your garden as a baby 489 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 8: boy's mom, and everybody's like, now that we're older, we 490 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 8: understand why her having his garden and having that blunt 491 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 8: in the garden was so important? 492 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 9: Saw that mean? Before? 493 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 5: Lord, let me tell you something, every type somebody posts it. Yes, 494 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 5: I get it, sit to me, okay thousand times. 495 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 8: So when you see that, I mean you probably understood 496 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 8: that then because you were at you know what I mean, 497 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 8: you were in it. You had to channel the character. 498 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 8: But like when you see that and you see like, 499 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 8: because my generation is doing it, people younger than me 500 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 8: are reposting it like that type of impact, Like, what's 501 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 8: your response to that? 502 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 9: Are you? 503 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 5: And listen? When I shot the film, I didn't know. 504 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 5: I didn't get it. So I feel like everybody. 505 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 9: Else you did know, we believed you so bad. 506 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: Well, I exactly I was what I'm saying. 507 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 5: Now that I'm older, I understand that stance, you know, 508 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 5: in terms of just wanting the piece and finding your 509 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 5: own place, especially as women, you know, we're so busy 510 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 5: doing and doing and doing that. I now understand the 511 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 5: importance of yeah, but where's the piece? Is it in 512 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 5: your garden? Is it just with a glass of want? 513 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 5: Is a kicking it with your girls? So I understand, 514 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 5: and the fact that it's become such an iconic moment. 515 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 5: You never can predict that you know at least I can't. 516 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 5: I never I never can predict what's going to be iconic. 517 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 5: And I don't pick projects even thinking that I picked 518 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 5: projects because I know that my divine assignment is to 519 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 5: do projects where there's a message, you know, And I 520 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 5: always think, if I do this. It just took me 521 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 5: up to think about it. If I do this project, 522 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 5: can I change one life? Can I talk to one 523 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 5: person and maybe shift their perspective? If the answer is yes, 524 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 5: that's why I do it. So that's why you don't 525 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 5: see me a lot. Honestly, in film, it's got to 526 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 5: mean something. I can't just do the hot the hot 527 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 5: project or the hot script. If I can't find a 528 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 5: reason for me to give a message, then it's not mine. 529 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 4: What makes you want to do a film? 530 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 6: Because you know, when I watch Baby Boy now, I 531 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 6: got a whole different perspective of it than I did 532 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 6: twenty years ago. So what made you want to do 533 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 6: that film twenty years ago? What was the message in 534 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 6: it for you? 535 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 5: The message was, you know, single moms are not necessarily 536 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 5: the downfall, and to give single moms hope in once again, 537 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 5: like I said, that prepared me for fighting to be me. 538 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 5: You know, single moms, especially in the hood, are learning, 539 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 5: growing up and learning with their kids that you know, 540 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 5: I wanted to give them permission to fail and to 541 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 5: keep moving and that love always wins. Even Mama Sin said, 542 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 5: not knowing that she was confirming what I knew from 543 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 5: the experience of Baby Boy. When I was researching with 544 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 5: Mama Sin and just making her go deep about why 545 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 5: certain things that I knew were gonna be depicted in 546 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 5: this film, she finally said, tears streaming, she said, you know, 547 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 5: fear can lead, but love has to win. And so 548 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 5: that's what made me go okay, because as black women 549 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 5: in these situations, a lot of times we're leading and 550 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 5: living in fear. And so if the film can depict 551 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 5: step out the fear and do what you know you 552 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 5: have to do, whether it's putting your son out because 553 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 5: it's time for him to learn how to be a 554 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 5: man on his own and you can't do it, or 555 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 5: whether it's you know, sending your drug addict gay son 556 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 5: away in the nineties because you know he at the 557 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 5: time doesn't know who he she is. Then sometimes love 558 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 5: is doing the hard thing, and so if God's choosing 559 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 5: me to do it on film, I gotta do it. 560 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: That's how I felt to watch it. 561 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 6: When you watch Baby Boy now, it's like at first, 562 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 6: when you first see it, you think this is a 563 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 6: movie about this young man, but it's really about the 564 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 6: women and the women in his life and how he 565 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 6: has to eventually break the cycle I think of single motherhood. 566 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah way, and let me tell you now that it's 567 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: years later. 568 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 5: One of the things my dear love and friend John Singleton, 569 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 5: when Sony told him that they wanted a PG rating, 570 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 5: it was it was it was shot to be are 571 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 5: because there was a lot of the women, the sexuality 572 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 5: and all that. Sony said they wanted PG and pushed 573 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 5: the film with Tyrese and Snoop because they were the hot, 574 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 5: the hot talents at MTV at the time. That wasn't 575 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 5: the story though, So they actually gave John millions of 576 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 5: dollars to reshoot some of the film to focus on them. 577 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 5: A lot of the chase scenes at the end, you 578 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 5: know Snoop coming out of jail, he goes on the 579 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 5: foremost of the time In the original script, and it 580 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 5: was about me and being in the relationship Taraji and Tyrese, 581 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 5: But the studio was like, that's not the story. What's 582 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 5: funny now is what you just said all these years later, 583 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 5: It is exactly the story in that deep. 584 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, because the family you ended up with ving Raams, so. 585 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 6: That that's that's a full family now. Yeah, you know 586 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 6: Tyrese and Saraji ended up together, so that's a full family. 587 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 4: Now, only brother got left. That was Tyre's first baby, Mama. 588 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody. 589 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 6: You know. 590 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 7: I want to just give Aj a shout out because 591 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 7: I was thinking about as you were talking. They don't 592 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 7: know your your presence on set. When Aj comes on set, 593 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 7: everybody is going to leave fulfilled. You're going to get 594 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 7: schooled and you don't even know that you're getting school. 595 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 7: You're going to get some inspiration and you don't even 596 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 7: realize that it's coming people. You You change so many 597 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 7: lives when you're on set. 598 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 3: You always do. 599 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 5: I hope so because I know now that when I 600 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 5: go on set, I'm not there to boost my celebrity. 601 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 5: You know I'm not there. I mean, honestly, I've been 602 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 5: doing this since I was twenty, so you know, the 603 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 5: Red Carpets, I get it, but you already know you know, 604 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 5: life is more than that, At least for me, it 605 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 5: is and to be able to travel and live in 606 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 5: other countries is way more than that. So for me, 607 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 5: when I go on set, I know it's a divine 608 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 5: assignment to just show people at this age and stage 609 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 5: that your life can be full and it doesn't have 610 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 5: to be about chasing the next project. Like even now 611 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 5: when I'm doing interviews in red carpets for this, So, 612 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 5: what's your next project? And I said, Collie Joeneralists is 613 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 5: still asking that, like after twenty thirty years, and I say, 614 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 5: you know what, I don't freaking know. And I'm okay 615 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 5: with that. I'm okay with that. I'm producing, you know, 616 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 5: I'm looking for projects, we're looking for scripts. So we 617 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 5: don't know yet. But I mean I couldn't say that 618 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 5: with confidence twenty years ago because that just wasn't the 619 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 5: thing to do. But now the freedom I live with, 620 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 5: the freedom is amazing. So I'm just trying to, you know, 621 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 5: be an example on set, and I know that's why 622 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 5: I'm there. 623 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: I gotta ask you attended and you graduated Spelman, Yeah, 624 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Now you're also a member of Delta Sigma 625 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: Theta have been for years now. You heard this, Well, 626 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 2: yesterday morning when we were talking about the young man 627 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 2: that lost his life. 628 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: He so glad you're bringing us out, go ahead. 629 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: And wanted you to break that down. 630 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: We were talking about is hazing should fraternities this already 631 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: should be Should they still be doing hazing at this point? 632 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 5: Okay, how much time we got because yeah, yeah, yeah, 633 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 5: yeah yeah. So let's start with the fact that I 634 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 5: pledged at seventeen, one of the youngest undergraduate pledges at 635 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 5: Spelman at the time, and then through my stay at Spelman, 636 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 5: I became vice president of the chapter, which then gives 637 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 5: me Dina pledges as a new when the new line 638 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 5: comes in and Dina probates. The difference between those is 639 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 5: Dino pledges is you bring the new pledges in and 640 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 5: see them through the process. Dina Probates means you carry 641 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 5: them through the end of the process because it's a process. 642 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 5: And so having those two positions, I can comfortably say 643 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 5: that hazing is a personal thing. It's not an organization thing. 644 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 5: When I say that, meaning if you've been hazed before 645 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 5: and you want to interject that on a new pledge, 646 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 5: that's a personal thing. My pledge period was no walking 647 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 5: the park. It was not and so one of the 648 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 5: reasons I wanted to become DNA Pledges is to say 649 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 5: that's not necessary. And again we're talking about undergraduate pledging. 650 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 5: So when you are twenty five and twenty six and 651 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 5: you're no longer even in the school and you're still 652 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 5: coming back to be part of the pledge period, that's 653 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 5: also a personal thing like what are you missing and 654 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 5: why are you coming back to inflict possibly deadly fatal force. 655 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 5: If you're in the institution and you're a member of 656 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 5: the chapter, nine times out of ten you're being raised 657 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 5: in the way that the chapter is being raised. And 658 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 5: so nowadays hazing's not allowed. So again I'm still going 659 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 5: to there's something personal, a personal vendetta that somebody's exercising 660 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 5: in that. The other side of it is, as Dina Pledges, 661 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 5: I'm in control, and that's just it. I'm in control 662 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 5: of not only who's around the pledges within the chapter, 663 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 5: but also the visit members of the organization that come back. 664 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 5: So it's my say who gets to be around the 665 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 5: pledges period. So that job only goes to we were 666 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 5: talking about this, that job only goes to a strong 667 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 5: spirit and authoritative spirit to make sure that the pledges 668 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 5: stay safe. 669 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: So were there sorrows coming back around when I was 670 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: seeing pledgies. Absolutely? Was I the ones saying no, we're 671 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: not doing that, No you can't be there. And you 672 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: know who they are. See, that's the other thing. 673 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 5: A lot of these a lot of these hazers, you 674 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 5: know who they are or you know the potential they have, 675 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 5: so they're not strangers to your organization or to your chapter. 676 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: You have to stand up and say that's gonna be 677 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: an now. 678 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: When you look at tradition, right, because you know a 679 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: lot of people that have been through the process might 680 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: say I've been paddled before. 681 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of people say I might been whatever before. Yeah. 682 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: And usually those things don't kill you, don't hurt you. 683 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: But right in situations, it can happen. 684 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: Yes, So what do you say in that situation in 685 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: terms of when you when you have those things going 686 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: like paddle. 687 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: Right, that that's something that a lot of sororities and 688 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: fraternities say, Yes, that has happened before. 689 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 4: Yes, you can get hit with a paddle and die. 690 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: Yes. 691 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 5: And so so here's the open honesty. So I've been paddled. 692 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: Usually when the sentry club, the lady called one and 693 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: says she was at the centry. 694 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: I did, I did. 695 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 5: I made the central You were young, So are you 696 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 5: allowed to talk about it? Not beyond me saying I mean, I'm. 697 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: Part of this. 698 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, I was gonna say, because you normally, I don't 699 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 8: know how much you could talk about. But I have 700 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 8: I have friends that have been younger on the line. Yeah, 701 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 8: and they got a little bit worse because they were younger. 702 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 703 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 9: I don't know if your experience leaning toward that either too, 704 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 9: because you were younger, like they were making examples. 705 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 5: I don't know if that was the case. I mean, 706 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 5: I do believe sometimes that is the case. I don't 707 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 5: necessarily think that was the case with my line. And 708 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 5: when I pledged, it was a lot of suspended chapters. 709 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 5: It was a lot of you know, not having lines 710 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 5: for years, so you know, but once again, we were 711 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 5: talking about different time. We're talking about early you know, 712 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 5: late eighties, early nineties, so it's a whole different time. 713 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 5: But what I say is once and you're typically blindfolded, 714 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 5: so you don't know who it is, you don't know 715 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 5: what's happening, right, So to me, once I became a 716 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 5: member of the chapter and started seeing how that works. 717 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 5: There's things that can replace that. 718 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 8: You know. 719 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 5: Uh, that's that's that's tradition that doesn't need to stay. 720 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 5: And that's what I feel, you know, there's traditions that 721 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 5: don't need to stay. I mean when I was needing 722 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 5: pledges and a lot of my pledges are gonna say. 723 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: I had them exercising. 724 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 5: I mean that was punishment enough, right, you don't know 725 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 5: your founders more mild and they're like, oh man, really, 726 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 5: it's like, you know, there's different forms of teaching and 727 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 5: being authoritative without it being physical abuse. 728 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just feel like if it's college, it should 729 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 4: be something more cerebral. 730 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 5: Well I'm just I mean, there's just it doesn't have 731 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 5: to be physical abuse period. 732 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: And that's just my stance. 733 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 2: But you know, sometimes people will say that the graduate 734 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: people that's that's in the fraternity and sorority are not 735 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: looked at the same as the people that actually quote 736 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: unquote pledged. 737 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: Grad chapter correct. Well, that's true. 738 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 5: And then we also some organizations in the D nine 739 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 5: also have honorary members. Now, what I say as having 740 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 5: pledged is what's most important to me is the union 741 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 5: and the camaraderie of me having had line sisters some 742 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 5: of my best friends to this day, as separate as 743 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 5: our lives have gone, kids no kids, teacher, I'm in Hollywood, 744 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 5: we're still connected because we helped each other through a 745 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 5: trying process as we were teenagers. You're not getting that 746 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 5: and graduate right, and you're definitely not going through that 747 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 5: when you're in and when you're an honorary. So I 748 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 5: think we have the value and undergrad we have to 749 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 5: value the truth of the process and know that it 750 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 5: doesn't have to be physically abusive, especially when it can 751 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 5: be fatal. 752 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: Now also talking about the importance of sororities and fraternities, 753 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: because was like, I also do a blood. 754 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: Of crypt I heard you. 755 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 7: I asked that too earlier when we started talking and 756 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 7: I said, hey, tell me, what is the biggest benefit 757 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 7: now at your age, I said, because I didn't pledge 758 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 7: because I didn't like seeing what some of my friends 759 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 7: online were going through. 760 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: Yes, I would give. 761 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 8: It to me, I said, tell me, I feel like 762 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 8: insteadic you give aka, but internally you give dota. 763 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: That's what I think we can change the esthetic. 764 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 8: No, no, no, because deltas like you know what I mean, period. 765 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 8: But I do think there's a look I know what 766 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 8: you mean period? I do, But can you talk about 767 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 8: that from undergrad and and graduate, Like, what's the importance 768 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 8: undergrad and then graduate being able to fit? 769 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think it changes. I 770 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 5: think it matures. 771 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 9: I don't. 772 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 5: I don't think the benefit changes in undergrad. You know, 773 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 5: when you're studying, when you're looking to graduate and find 774 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 5: a job, you know, you've got generations of women that 775 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 5: have gone that are with you, that have gone before you, 776 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 5: that are going to be a help that. 777 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: You won't normally have. 778 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 5: You've got sororiety members that are in corporations that that 779 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 5: may be able to get your resume in a different 780 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 5: position and faster than if you weren't a member. And 781 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 5: remember i'll speak for mine. You know, there's a certain 782 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 5: g PA that is required to pledge, and so you've 783 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 5: got a certain intellect. Going back to the collegiate thing, 784 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 5: you've got a certain intellect to even qualify. 785 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 9: Y'all don't play about education. 786 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: We don't, and so our foundation, Our foundation is service 787 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: and education. 788 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 8: So for Chinese that they want you bad enough, they'll 789 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 8: figure it out. But delta is their number one thing. 790 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 8: They don't play about the. 791 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 5: Day and I'm gonna tell you, even in the graduate level, 792 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 5: it's even strict with being being a you having a 793 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 5: graduate degree, at this point, I probably wouldn't have made 794 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 5: line outside of undergrad because I don't have the the 795 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 5: the graduate level education that's required. 796 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: So that's part of it. 797 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 5: And so what happens is the organization is building a 798 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 5: platform and a funnel of education like mind, like minded, 799 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 5: like spirited women. So now you've got all these women 800 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 5: who are successful in their own right helping each other worldwide. 801 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 5: So they're worldwide organizations. I can travel, whether it's Australia, Africa, 802 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 5: and I'm meeting the sorrow who's saying, hey, what are 803 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 5: you trying to do? 804 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: Hey, what are you trying to do? 805 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 5: Well, let's connect Or I know a sorrow who's or 806 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 5: who's So I don't know where I would be, whether 807 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 5: it's Hollywood or or just in my life if I 808 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 5: didn't have Saaras to call on. And now it's bigger 809 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 5: than Delta for me, it's now de nine because as 810 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 5: a as a Hollywood personality, it's more than just Delta. 811 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 5: I've got friends and colleagues that are Aka and Zeta 812 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 5: and and so now it's even bigger because now we 813 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 5: have more of a D nine sorority going than just 814 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 5: Delta or just Aka or just Zeta or just Sigmun Gammero. 815 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: So it's it's really a like mind to like spirit. 816 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 6: It from the beginning is they're a film y'all would 817 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 6: want to make about the D nine. 818 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 3: That's that's confirmation, your confirmation. 819 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: We just thought we were just because of this. 820 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 5: We were talking about it because I was saying, n Tresa, 821 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 5: I've seen where TV shows and movies have tried to 822 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 5: touch on it, but they rarely use true Greeks to consult, 823 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 5: and so it's always been a problem for me to 824 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 5: have pledged and obviously passionate about it, but but them 825 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 5: not getting the intricate details right. Not that we tell 826 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 5: the secrets of the organization, but there's still things that 827 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 5: could help people better understand why. The fact that you're 828 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 5: even asking that means that the stories that have been 829 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 5: told have not been accurate enough. 830 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: Not only that it's. 831 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: Bigger than in other communities or in other cities than 832 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 2: others Like I'm from New York, so fraternities and sororities 833 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 2: we didn't see as much, but I had roommates from 834 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: in down South Mississippi and Atlanta, so it was everything 835 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 2: for them and the legacy my dad. When you have 836 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: those roommates and they're telling you about it and what 837 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 2: it does, it hypes you up to be like, damn, 838 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: I think I want to do that, which put me 839 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: onto it because I never heard anything about it. But 840 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: they would always say, you know, when I graduate, my 841 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: my my brother's gonna help me get this job. My 842 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 2: fraternity brother is gonna help me in this lane. He's 843 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: gonna guide me when it comes to this. And I 844 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: was like, that's things come. 845 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 6: I feel like that's what people should cinema. 846 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 8: Explain to people who haven't been on HBCU campus and 847 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 8: actually went to the school, because you know that while 848 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 8: you're there, but see it, yeah, and you feel it, 849 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 8: like the Greek impact. That's why, like when Kamala was 850 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 8: getting all that flag for like going and speaking to 851 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 8: Greek organizations over whatever. I'm like, if people understood the 852 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 8: power of the Divine Nine and what they can do 853 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 8: when they unified, they would get it. But for people 854 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 8: who've never been on the STCU campus, you don't feel 855 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 8: the power in the culture that Divine Nine brings, and 856 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 8: I think it is because we're not seeing it in 857 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 8: cinema maybe consistently in the right way. 858 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 3: We're looking for investors. 859 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 5: Yeah for sure for that lady to or yeah period. 860 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 8: Right, but wait, is that why Judge matthis is one 861 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 8: of the he's like the produce. He's an ep on 862 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 8: the Dwiny because he is do you know him through 863 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 8: the He's different, he's. 864 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 3: A so. 865 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 7: So Judge actually took in both the Tenisa Welch story 866 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 7: and the dwyn Carry story to be Et because b 867 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 7: Et was doing the American Gangsters series and so both 868 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 7: of those projects they had episodics which I think it 869 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 7: was like maybe forty five minutes. And so those were 870 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 7: the two projects that BT said, all right, let's let's 871 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 7: make this a full biopic. But Judge matthis was the 872 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 7: one that took them and he had relationships with both 873 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 7: of them, and then they introduced Judge to me and 874 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 7: then that's how we. 875 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 8: I thought, because he's an alpha, and I thought y'all 876 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 8: might have known each other just like you know. 877 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 5: It was it helped make a deeper connection, got you know, 878 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 5: But I just I just want to ask something about 879 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 5: the Greek thing. You know, after spending time in Africa. 880 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 5: Another thing that I actually took a break because I 881 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 5: was so I was so busy in undergrad with Delta. 882 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 5: I took a break because I just I was burnout. 883 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 5: What made me want to come back to the organization 884 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 5: here is because we don't have as Americans, we don't 885 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 5: have the sense of village that we had on the continent. 886 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 5: So families live in compounds, you know, families work together, 887 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 5: families grow together. As Americans, we don't have that, and 888 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 5: so I feel like that's another reason why a lot 889 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 5: of us pledged is to have that camaraderie in terms 890 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 5: of as we move through life here, our family separate, 891 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 5: you know, as we get adults and we marry, we separate. 892 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: In Africa, the new wife comes, the husband comes, the 893 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,720 Speaker 1: kids come, and then we stay together. 894 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 5: So because we don't have that experience, I think that's 895 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 5: what makes a lot of us pledge. But I think 896 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 5: that's what the Greek organizations based here in America have 897 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 5: to remember. 898 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: That we're creating villages. Is it's not about killing people. 899 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: It's crazy you said that when I went to years ago. 900 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 2: Years ago, I went to Johannesburg to do some parties 901 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 2: and do some shows. And the person that I went there, 902 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: I went to visit him and. 903 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: The way that he lived. 904 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 2: He bought the property next door to his house and 905 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: then brought the property next door to their house and 906 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 2: they all live like in a big compound. And I 907 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: just thought it was amazing. That's why my daughter still 908 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 2: lives in my house now at twenty three. 909 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: I just like that. 910 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: I have the fact that you have that community. And 911 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what we got to the point where 912 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: it's like you turned to on the one you gotta 913 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 2: get to fuck out my house. 914 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: I well, we were taught that we were talking. 915 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: I like the fact that I can see my daughter 916 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 2: every day and it is what it is. She has 917 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 2: a boyfriend, that's fine. I love the fact that everybody's 918 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 2: in the same house, same community. We cook together, we 919 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 2: play games together, we do this, we do that. There's 920 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 2: no other feeling. But it's also a safety for myself. 921 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 2: I know where everybody is. I was going to ask 922 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 2: one thing that Louis V said, which is our program 923 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 2: director from Atlanta. He said, the hardest thing about the 924 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 2: Divine Nine is people don't pay their dues and. 925 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: Sim because that a lot of times, y'all. 926 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 2: Don't have the power that you need because you don't 927 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: have the money and funding. 928 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: Is that true? 929 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 5: I think it's an individual thing for organization, but I 930 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 5: know that, you know, I also feel like dues paying 931 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 5: has got to be more appealing in terms of what 932 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 5: the organization is going to do, you know, for me, 933 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 5: because I'm a soul that's into service, I'm traveling the 934 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 5: world in service. I mean, I work for orphanages in 935 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 5: Ghana and Senegal and I'm still doing what I was 936 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 5: trained to do as a delta. But to be in 937 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 5: a chapter in an organization, I have to be attracted 938 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 5: to what that chapter is going to do. And if 939 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 5: I'm paying dues, I need to know what's my money 940 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 5: being put towards. And I think that's where a lot 941 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 5: of organizations that in D nine organizations have to elevate 942 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 5: in terms of what are they really doing with the 943 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 5: financial obligation and so I you know, there's always room 944 00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 5: to grow. 945 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: So we'll see. 946 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 4: Mh. 947 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 8: Well, the last question for you, what what's your what 948 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 8: would you rate your most impactful culturally impactful role of 949 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 8: all your roles? 950 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you. 951 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 5: Know, honestly, I've seen where you know, House Party has 952 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 5: done its thing and continues to do its thing. You know, 953 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 5: I can't deny that. You know, people are still running 954 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 5: up to me in Times Square at the airport with 955 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 5: you everything. 956 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 4: You Yes, A lot of that has to do with 957 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 4: the fact you have not. 958 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 5: She broke it down right out here before office had 959 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 5: had suit a head. I was like, yes, And then 960 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 5: of course Baby Boy, you know it's it has hits, 961 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 5: it's plunged. And you see how to me, every project, 962 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 5: and I can't speak for every actress, but I know 963 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 5: the way God moves with me, every project pushes me 964 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 5: into the next one. So as you heard me say, 965 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 5: Baby Boy helped prepare me for for fighting to be me. 966 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 5: This is my first installment of taking a dance anything LGBTQ, 967 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 5: and so that's a whole nother culture and community for me. 968 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 5: So let's I mean, I'm sure this project is going 969 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 5: to do something in that community, in that space, but 970 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 5: as an African American culture, that's part of our culture. 971 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 5: So I just think that for people to have seen 972 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 5: me so much in Baby Boy, and so many people 973 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 5: have grown up with me. You were saying that, right, 974 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 5: have grown up with me in the culture I think 975 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 5: when I step on screen, it's just part of it anyway, 976 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 5: and I take that to my advantage. Yeah, I know, 977 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,479 Speaker 5: like I said, I know when I step on screen 978 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 5: in a role like this, I know people are going. 979 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: To pay attention, and so I take that seriously. What 980 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: do you think? 981 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 8: No, I just you did a great job as a 982 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 8: Dwin's mom and you haven't met Hern's mom. 983 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: Oh like the mama said. 984 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 9: Oh no, no, no, no, she's crazier than how you were on screen. 985 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 8: Yes, did you put a gun? 986 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: I pull a gun. 987 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 9: Let's just say I pull a early on in the movie. 988 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 1: I pull a gun. 989 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 5: Cigarette I do, I pull a gun. Look you, Sai, 990 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 5: I go straight into Mama' saying straight into her. 991 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 992 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a she's a she's a she's a colorful 993 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 5: person and. 994 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: So and so. 995 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 5: Even that, you know, I was a little nervous because 996 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 5: there's a there's a risk as an actress. And I 997 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 5: talked to Trusts about this and the director when we're filming. 998 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 5: There's a risk as an actress that people think, Okay, 999 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 5: where where is all this coming from? In AJ's portrayal, 1000 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 5: that's who she is, that's really who she is. So 1001 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 5: I mean, when you look at the characters in the 1002 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 5: story that are real people, you get to see, okay, this, 1003 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 5: this whole story is really colorful. I'll just say that 1004 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 5: you're gonna ask something now, I was. 1005 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 4: Gonna say, what's the story that you that you want 1006 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 4: to tell? TRESSA. 1007 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 7: Ultimately, I think I want a faith based or faith 1008 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 7: based adjacent project that will appeal to the masses and 1009 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 7: get stories told that people wouldn't ordinarily listen to because 1010 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 7: they hear faith based and then. 1011 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 1: They run what's faith based adjacent based? 1012 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 7: A Jason is, for example, I'm getting ready to shoot 1013 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 7: a movie that is a crime drama slash faith based 1014 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 7: where it's a it's a it's a story about crime 1015 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 7: and activity that's going on. But then there's this devout 1016 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 7: Christian mother that has to make a decision where she's like, 1017 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 7: you know what, I believe in the Lord. However, you 1018 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 7: just mess with my child and we get ready to 1019 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,919 Speaker 7: have a problem. 1020 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 3: So if you tell. 1021 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 7: Stories like that where people it's real life, you know, 1022 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,240 Speaker 7: because people think that being a Christian means I'm perfect, 1023 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 7: That's not what that means. And so I want to 1024 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 7: tell a story that will relate to the masses where 1025 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 7: they can see oh wow, like I can. I can 1026 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 7: have faith but still be human. I'm not perfect. Doesn't 1027 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 7: mean I have to do everything right. So I want 1028 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 7: to tell a story like that, and I want to 1029 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 7: do it in a big way with an excellent cast. 1030 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 7: And AJ is gonna be my EP. Yes, Charlemagne's gonna 1031 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 7: invest Lauren's gonna be in the movie. 1032 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 3: Yes, what you're doing? Yeah, what's gonna be your role? 1033 00:44:58,719 --> 00:44:58,959 Speaker 4: Everything? 1034 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 2: I can act, I can invest a you can figure out. 1035 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 8: The soundtrack and the sound But you know what, even 1036 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 8: though we're using this as an example, that is what 1037 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 8: I was going to say that I'm going to do that, 1038 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 8: and oh, I know, but you do that in real life, 1039 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 8: Like I don't think people understand how lit it is. 1040 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,320 Speaker 8: Like even with me, like a first time pitching a show, 1041 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 8: I got on the phone with her and she was like, okay, 1042 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 8: so yeah, that's that's done. 1043 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 9: What else you want to do? But I was like, 1044 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 9: I had pitched to so many. 1045 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 8: Networks directly, and I talked to her and she was 1046 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 8: like and I was like, this is crazy because it's 1047 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 8: like it's another black woman. 1048 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 9: So she gets it, but. 1049 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 8: You do, You've empowered so many people through that, and 1050 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 8: they're making real money. Like, yeah, that's another thing because 1051 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 8: when you independently do stuff, you don't see her return. 1052 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 8: But like so many country ways, so many people are 1053 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 8: making money off of the projects you take to these 1054 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 8: networks as well. 1055 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 7: Like that is just the vessel. And so what I 1056 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 7: like to do is go in the room. We figure 1057 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 7: out how we can work together, because that's the only 1058 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 7: way we're gonna make it is if we collaborate. Everybody's 1059 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 7: out here trying to be cutthroat. Me, me, me, that's 1060 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 7: not how to win that. You can't do it that way. 1061 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 5: Right, And they're expecting us to be cutthroat because they 1062 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 5: know we can't win that way. 1063 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: So we have to change it. 1064 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 5: And they're and they're telling us a lot and loud 1065 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 5: that they're expecting us to act a certain way. 1066 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: And so it's up to us to change the narrative. 1067 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 8: So when she called, y'all answer the phone, because she's 1068 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 8: going for the call, y'all, trust yeah what you just said, listen, 1069 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 8: And it don't take. 1070 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 4: Long with her. 1071 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 6: And what's this role overpaying you for next? 1072 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 5: You know, I think it's and this is interesting. After 1073 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 5: baby boy, I was offered the mama role, the mama 1074 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,720 Speaker 5: role fifty seven, the mom mo role sixty five, and 1075 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 5: I was and I turned a lot of it down 1076 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 5: because I was using baby Boy as critical acclaim as 1077 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 5: an actress to do more action. That's really what I 1078 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 5: wanted to do, and so that didn't really happen. Not, 1079 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 5: I don't think because of me. It's just that that genre. 1080 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 5: Nobody was looking for a black action star. 1081 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 1: At the time. And so. 1082 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 5: Now I realize that there is what's the word, there's uh, 1083 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 5: adoration what you say, yeah, appetite, Yeah, appetite, adoration, respect 1084 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 5: for what I bring to these roles. And so now 1085 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 5: I'm looking at story. I'm looking for for for stories 1086 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 5: that can can can talk about our culture, whether it's 1087 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 5: the mama role or whether it's the teacher something. But 1088 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 5: I'm just I'm looking more for scripts where there's parts 1089 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 5: of our culture that aren't being displayed on screen and 1090 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,439 Speaker 5: not so much. Now if I can wear hot pants 1091 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 5: and carry a gun, then I'm good with that too. 1092 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 5: But but you know, I mean, I've always wanted to 1093 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 5: do flojo story. 1094 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and so. 1095 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't remember we have to go back to 1096 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 5: that because John Singleton and I were going to We're 1097 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,399 Speaker 5: trying to do it right after baby Boy, and then 1098 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 5: you know, it just his his focus shifted and we 1099 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 5: just didn't get it done. But again, not even just 1100 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 5: the biopic of the athlete, but just the life of 1101 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 5: an athlete at that time and what it took to 1102 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 5: be so great and to still be a woman and 1103 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 5: to be so courageous in her fashion. It's like what 1104 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 5: we know, you know, we see Serena doing it, we 1105 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 5: see other women doing it, but Flow Joe started it. 1106 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 5: And so I like those kind of stories of let's 1107 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,439 Speaker 5: let's know who we where we come from. 1108 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: That's the other side. 1109 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,959 Speaker 5: I like going back into our history so that people 1110 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 5: don't think it's just happening. You know, we are we are, 1111 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 5: we got a bad history behind us, and I want 1112 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 5: to tell those stories too. 1113 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was I think Tiffany had I feel. 1114 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 8: Like she well she was supposed to play about Flow Joe. 1115 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 10: I don't know what happened else because I'm supposed to 1116 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 10: do it, or me and Tifty or me and Tiffany. 1117 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 5: I mean again, it's collaboration. So I mean, I don't know, 1118 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 5: but that's what I'm saying. I mean, I want to 1119 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 5: get that story done. She was very instrumental flow Jo. 1120 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 5: I mean was very instrumental when I was little in 1121 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 5: my work ethic, you know, and just you know, taking 1122 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 5: care of my body and so you know, my my 1123 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 5: physical existence now is a large result of her. And 1124 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,919 Speaker 5: so oh for sure, you know, Gail Divers there would 1125 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 5: attract greats then and so now because I ran track 1126 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 5: in high school, I pay attention to like, you know, 1127 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 5: sign your richardson and and uh, there's the stars now 1128 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 5: than yeah, yeah, Shakari. So so you know what I 1129 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 5: see is it doesn't change. The work ethic doesn't change. 1130 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 5: The generations do. But there's a mind space and a 1131 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 5: work ethic that doesn't change, and that needs to be 1132 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 5: seen and taught more than just seeing them at the Olympics. 1133 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 5: So I'm looking for stories like that too. 1134 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,879 Speaker 6: Question what like, would you ever do a story about 1135 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 6: polygamy but being being a woman who has who. 1136 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 7: Are? 1137 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? How is that amazing? Amazing? 1138 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 4: But thunder Neil he the guy, No, but he. 1139 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 5: You know, listen, you can because he's a whole different reason. 1140 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 5: Let me let me say this, since we're bringing it up, 1141 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 5: my my space in it honestly is because since I've 1142 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 5: been supposed to different cultures and different religious and spirit 1143 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 5: practices around the world. My thing is, I haven't I 1144 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 5: haven't found a lot of men in America who who 1145 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 5: are really appealing to me spiritually, physically, emotionally, mentally. So 1146 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 5: my thing is, I've got the athlete that I hang 1147 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 5: out with. I've got the spirit that I pray with, 1148 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 5: you know, I've got the person that's adventures that I 1149 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 5: travel with. So it's more lifestyle than it is the 1150 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,359 Speaker 5: sexual connection. For me, it's it's more like I'm not 1151 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 5: in a relationship, so I have more than one man 1152 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 5: I spend time with. 1153 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 9: So whatever you don't get over here, you can get 1154 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 9: here here. 1155 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1156 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 5: Now my soul is actually monogamous, Okay, But because I 1157 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 5: can't find that, I don't stop. 1158 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 8: Did you decide to Dibbo Dabo in polygamy after that breakup? 1159 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 8: You mentioned it took you to Africa before that, before. 1160 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: That, years ago. It was before that. 1161 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 5: Wow, it was way before that, and so and so 1162 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 5: me having a relationship after that was me trying I'm 1163 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 5: not gonna again, and a large part of me was bored, 1164 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,879 Speaker 5: you know, intellectually, I was bored again. 1165 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: I want to travel the world. 1166 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 5: I wasn't finding a lot of African American men who 1167 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 5: are building their lives to do that. I even say 1168 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 5: now when I meet men, I say, you know, I 1169 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 5: carry five currencies on any given day. 1170 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: How many currencies do you have? 1171 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 4: God? 1172 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 1: And that's not a flex. 1173 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 3: But it's intimidating. 1174 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 5: Oh well, see here we go with ax go anywhere. Yeah, 1175 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 5: but I mean think about in the pandemic, when the 1176 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 5: American passport couldn't get us out of here. I got 1177 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 5: to leave you because I got I got another passport, 1178 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 5: I got other currencies. Even without the passport. I wasn't 1179 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 5: even a dual citizen until twenty twenty two. In twenty 1180 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 5: twenty I went to three different countries because I had cash. 1181 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: I was prepared. I tell you, I got the email, 1182 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: so I had. 1183 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 5: Cash in the currency. So I mean, again, this is 1184 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 5: just my life, right. It's not like I'm trying to 1185 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,080 Speaker 5: say I don't want an American man. I'm just saying 1186 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 5: my international life, my global options take me into different cultures. 1187 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,760 Speaker 4: And it would be cool if that man had the same. 1188 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,359 Speaker 2: Just on the other side, if he had a woman 1189 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 2: for this, a woman for that, woman for that, and 1190 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 2: you for traveling. 1191 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: As long as he's okay with me doing the same thing, 1192 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna have fun. 1193 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,879 Speaker 4: See that's a story. Yeah, yeah, that's a story because 1194 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 4: I feel like there's so much. 1195 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 6: Things that we're not going to be taught because especially 1196 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 6: what's going on in this country as far as you know, 1197 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 6: the book banning and. 1198 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 4: All types of stuff. 1199 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 6: But I feel like those type of things we need 1200 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 6: to see how we're going to get exposed other culture. 1201 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 1202 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 5: It's so interesting because you know, when I start talking 1203 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 5: about it, the men got offended and all of a sudden, 1204 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 5: I was the queen of running trains choo choo whatever, right, 1205 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 5: And then the women were empowered because a lot of 1206 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 5: women were saying, you know, I want I wanted to 1207 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,359 Speaker 5: explore that, but I've been afraid to or I can't 1208 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 5: believe you're talking about it publicly. And I would say 1209 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 5: even by in the background of it. It's not just 1210 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 5: a sexual experience, right, that's what that's what us as 1211 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 5: Americans think. 1212 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 9: That's the first thing I thought of it. Yeah, it's not. 1213 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not just a set actual experience. It's it's 1214 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 5: like I can be I can be not even sexually active. 1215 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 5: But but I'm still getting full from my spiritual partnership, 1216 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 5: my adventure partnership, in my travel, my fitness partnership. You know, 1217 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 5: the guy I pray with me don't want to hike, 1218 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 5: you see what I'm saying. And the guy that wants 1219 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 5: to hike and pray may not want to travel or can't. 1220 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,359 Speaker 5: It doesn't mean I stopped my life. So Neo got 1221 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 5: a lot of flat uh not well not a lot. 1222 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 8: But like Neo has kids, right, and his one of 1223 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 8: his kids mom came out about the way that I 1224 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 8: guess he's talking about his lifestyle so openly because of 1225 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 8: their kids. And then they started a whole conversation about like, 1226 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 8: how do you explain this to your kids? Do you 1227 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 8: bring the people because there's multiple partners around the kids 1228 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 8: and like all of that. 1229 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:44,919 Speaker 9: I know you have a son. 1230 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 1: I don't. 1231 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 8: Oh I don't have the kids. Oh, Google said you did. Really, yes, 1232 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,320 Speaker 8: they gave me one sign and everything. 1233 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,320 Speaker 4: Has one son. 1234 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 1: Who is that? 1235 00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 10: Somebody about to come out because I'm I I finally 1236 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 10: get Instagram might never seen a post a kid, but 1237 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 10: I'm only. 1238 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 8: I thought you were a celebrity that kept your kid 1239 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,439 Speaker 8: out in the style. No, I mean this don't apply 1240 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 8: to you then, But how do you feel about that conversation, 1241 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 8: because I'm sure you've had that in a conversation with 1242 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 8: your family members in general. 1243 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: Well, I think this. 1244 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 5: You know, if you live in open and honest life, 1245 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 5: then there's nothing ever to hide. And so for me, 1246 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 5: I can't speak because I don't have kids, but I 1247 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 5: feel like there's a respectful way if that's a lifestyle. 1248 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 5: I feel the same way about, you know, a gay 1249 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 5: parent thing with a kid. You know, if if two 1250 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 5: gay men adopt want to raise a kid, or two 1251 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 5: gay women are raising a family, there's a way that 1252 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 5: that family is raised and trained to understand. And so 1253 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 5: even when that kid is going to school with heterosexual 1254 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 5: other parents orving sleepovers, and there's a different way that 1255 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,839 Speaker 5: they're being raised and taught what that lifestyle is like. 1256 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 5: So I don't know. I don't know much about Neo's thing. 1257 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 5: I'm not wild with mine. 1258 00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm not. 1259 00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,959 Speaker 5: It's not something that I promote because it's not about 1260 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 5: out that. It's about me making sure that I'm full 1261 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 5: and what that means as. 1262 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: A global woman. 1263 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 4: Global woman. 1264 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,920 Speaker 3: Again, she is intimidating. 1265 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:20,760 Speaker 4: Cannot figure that's the of the movie Global Global Woman. 1266 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 1: I wanted delaware, I want to do that is not 1267 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 1: Here's a question. Here's a question real quick for you too. 1268 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 5: So I know, I know you have women, But how 1269 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 5: do you feel about that woman perspective? 1270 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: Would you allow it? Would you allow it a lot? 1271 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 4: I don't know what. How can you stop a woman 1272 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 4: from doing what you want to do? 1273 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,840 Speaker 5: But how do you feel you would you be? 1274 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,359 Speaker 4: I wouldn't, I mean I would, I wouldn't personally. Can 1275 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 4: you tell me why I'm too insecure? 1276 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 11: Okay, that's fair woman, Woman's very proud of you. 1277 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 8: Else for the same part of part of it is 1278 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 8: probably for what NB said, but you wouldn't just say 1279 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 8: that out loud. 1280 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,280 Speaker 1: Mostly, I guess we would. 1281 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 3: Have twenty three I've been married for twenty eight. 1282 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 4: My woman for twenty six years. 1283 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 6: But I guess we would have to have the conversation, 1284 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 6: like because you said you have all of these different 1285 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 6: guys for different things, right, So what is it that 1286 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 6: I'm not fulfilling that? 1287 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,799 Speaker 4: I think that conversation has to happen first to see 1288 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 4: what it is. 1289 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 5: See I love that, But if it's something that you 1290 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 5: can't fulfill or you're not interested, in Do you feel 1291 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 5: like she's supposed to acquiesce and compromise or are there 1292 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 5: concessions there's that that compromise concession my devotion or do 1293 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 5: you feel like there's concessions that can be made so 1294 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 5: that you're both. 1295 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:44,720 Speaker 1: Happy and tough? 1296 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 8: Man, that's tough I do because I think if presented, 1297 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 8: if the other way, presented the other way, if your 1298 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 8: wives came to you and was like, hey, y'all, I 1299 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 8: think it would be fun for us to try puligueing 1300 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 8: me for like six months, what would y'all say now? 1301 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 4: Because I'm not missing nothing, like I'm not that. 1302 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:07,839 Speaker 5: It's different term relationship, what you wanted you want hike right? 1303 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 1: No, I mean like if. 1304 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 8: Said I'm okay with you having hypothetically, I'm okay with 1305 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 8: us having three other wives. 1306 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 4: It's I'm happy for what I have. I wouldn't want that. 1307 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 4: I wouldn't want like when Neil has to deal with 1308 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 4: I would want to deal with. And let's be clear, 1309 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 4: maybe a girlfriend. 1310 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 3: Don't don't. 1311 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 5: Girlfriend. I brought it up right, I want the boy 1312 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 5: I want the girlfriend. So so here's what's inter saying. 1313 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 5: If you're like a boyfriend, you're cool with that no, 1314 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 5: he already said no. 1315 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 9: But that's what i'maying. 1316 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 8: That's the that's what I was trying to get into, 1317 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 8: that that standard of like I think when Neo does it, 1318 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 8: and people will have things to say, but it's like, oh, 1319 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 8: shoot Neo. But when people hear you say it, it's like, 1320 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 8: what did you say? They called you train something. Other guys, 1321 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 8: yeah that I was Queen of the Train. Yeah, it's 1322 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 8: like it's such a different way. 1323 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, don't standard be crazy. 1324 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 1: I stuck in combats. 1325 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 5: Oh, listen to the Queen of the trades talking. 1326 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 7: So I have a movie with Neo and I present that. 1327 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 7: Everybody's like, hey, I watch what's the name of that movie? 1328 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 7: And I say, it's nothing like that. That sound it's 1329 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 7: called the Sound of Christmas. The lead in a Christmas 1330 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 7: movie like that. But when people realize it, you know, 1331 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 7: just because they're talking about Neo now, they're like, yeah, 1332 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 7: we know Neo is in your movie. 1333 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,919 Speaker 3: What's the name? And I was like, it's not like that. 1334 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 5: What I was gonna say is the difference with them 1335 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 5: is you all have been in long term relationships. 1336 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 1: This Mountain valleys. Mountain valleys. 1337 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 5: No relationship is perfect course, but you know, For me, 1338 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 5: I think it's also individual because I started my career 1339 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 5: so young that trying to find that kind of relationship 1340 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 5: in Hollywood. You know, I wanted it, I couldn't find it. 1341 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 5: You know, at that time, everybody that could have been 1342 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,600 Speaker 5: a potential partner, we were all trying to get our 1343 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 5: foot in the door. And so whether it's athlete, producer, director, talent, 1344 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 5: it wasn't happening for me like that. But I still 1345 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 5: wanted my life. So it's not so much I want 1346 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 5: to make sure it's clear even for the people listen. 1347 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 5: It's like, it's not like I'm just saying I want 1348 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 5: more than one man. That's why I said my heart 1349 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 5: and my soul is monogamous. But if I can't have that, 1350 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 5: then what do I do? 1351 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 7: That's fair like until you get it. Yeah, because we 1352 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 7: found a couple of potentials for you, but then we 1353 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 7: had to boot them out. 1354 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 8: Is it tough because you're aj like you you are, 1355 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 8: they see you and it's like, oh shoot, I watched 1356 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 8: Nacci movie credits and things behind the scenes. 1357 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: You know what, I'll tell you. 1358 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 5: It helps dating internationally because a lot of the international 1359 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 5: men don't know or they don't really care because they're 1360 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 5: they're of a certain financial status themselves, a certain social 1361 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 5: status themselves, and so I'm like, listen, we gotta travel, boot, 1362 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 5: we got to travel. And so it's not important to 1363 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 5: their culture, you know. And so you know, they acknowledge 1364 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 5: it and they respect it. But we're not connecting on 1365 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 5: that that level. We're connecting more on spiritual level, on 1366 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 5: what are we doing for the country, which is where 1367 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 5: I'm at in my own self. 1368 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Appreciate joining us. 1369 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 4: And do not take Laura with you. She's single, she 1370 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 4: can't find somebody. 1371 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Lawren's looking at me with. 1372 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 3: The cock jewel. Honey, thank you. 1373 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, don't settle. That's my final statement. Whoever it is, 1374 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 5: don't settle. Be a woman with global options. 1375 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 6: It's crazy how she acting like she don't got options though, 1376 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 6: you know, don't Valentine. They three different guys than her flowers, Charlomae, 1377 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 6: the three different guys in on Valentine. 1378 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 9: That is not true. 1379 01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 1: It's the same guy from three different floors. 1380 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 8: No same floor is three different flowers. You think all 1381 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,040 Speaker 8: all these guys are the one to the same floor. 1382 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 4: Maybe it was the one closest to it. 1383 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 9: He's lying. 1384 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 4: Good morning. 1385 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning the Breakfast Club 1386 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 9: H