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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning. Buddy, happy happy Happy Fox Sports Saturday. We

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Speaker 2: are the fellas, Jason Fitz Kevin Figures. I'm Anthony Gargana

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Speaker 2: should be. Well, FITZI last night it was, uh, it

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Speaker 2: was awesome man, watching EDITD go wild, watching that building

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Speaker 2: freak out that it's funny. That's what's so much fun

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Speaker 2: about sports. Is here it is the Stanley Cup Final

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Speaker 2: and it's great theater because you know, Florena's a three

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Speaker 2: to zero. They forced the uh you know they they

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Speaker 2: they all important Game five on the road they win

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Speaker 2: to force the game six.

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Speaker 3: And here it is Edmonton, and you know Edmonton so

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Speaker 3: far north.

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Speaker 2: Here it is three hour time difference from the East coast,

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Speaker 2: and it's light out. They're partying and the streets and

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Speaker 2: the game's over and it was just awesome, man, it was, Uh,

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Speaker 2: the atmosphere in that building. I have to say this,

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Speaker 2: and and you know, we always, I think, admit this,

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Speaker 2: but we never discuss it, which is there's nothing.

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Speaker 3: Like playoff hockey.

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Speaker 2: Like playoff hockey's ridiculous the end, and Russia is like

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Speaker 2: you hold your you're you're always holding your breath.

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Speaker 3: It's just a great product.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, I'll admit my bias and love for it.

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Speaker 4: Simply be like my first year on radio doing this

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Speaker 4: was the year that Nashville went to the Stanley Cup Final.

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Speaker 4: Then I was working for the flagship of the Predators,

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Speaker 4: so we were at every game and we cover that

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Speaker 4: entire run. And the coolest thing about it to me

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Speaker 4: was that how the city sort of came together with it.

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Speaker 4: And you know, for me growing up in Vegas as

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Speaker 4: a kid, obviously last year's run for the Golden Knights

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Speaker 4: was particularly special for me. I went out to one

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Speaker 4: of the finals games and I went to the parade

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Speaker 4: and I look at all of that and you saw

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Speaker 4: some of that magic in Edmonton because frankly, the Oilers

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Speaker 4: aren't just playing for Edmonton, They're playing for all Canada,

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Speaker 4: right like Canada has been out of this thing for

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Speaker 4: so long, And you could feel that energy the minute

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Speaker 4: that that game, the puck dropped and it was electric,

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Speaker 4: like the hair standing up on your neck just watching

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Speaker 4: that thing. And it reminded me a little bit of

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Speaker 4: some of those moments in Nashville where you just you

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Speaker 4: didn't know how that Preds team was finding a way

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Speaker 4: to win, but they were and there was a magic

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Speaker 4: to it. And you know, let's not forget here that

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Speaker 4: Game three of this of this final series, the Panthers

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Speaker 4: won four to three, and that's the game the Oilers

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Speaker 4: could have should have, you know, would have won. This

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Speaker 4: series could look much different because since that game, you're

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Speaker 4: talking about an eight to one win, a five to

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Speaker 4: three winner, and then last night a five to one.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just a domination right Like, So now

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Speaker 4: it's one of those strange moments where we say this

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Speaker 4: all the time, but who was the most pressure? Well,

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Speaker 4: my god, I mean, the Oilers have been under the

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Speaker 4: gun for the last week and it hasn't phased them

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Speaker 4: at all. This just just feels like a magic moment

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Speaker 4: in sports right now. To see the way the best

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Speaker 4: player in the world, I know wasn't a big deal.

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Speaker 4: Last night. If you listened to the update, you heard

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Speaker 4: that Conor McDavid was not the reason. But to watch

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Speaker 4: the best player on a team that's representing an entire

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, it's unbelievable, right, it really is.

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, the theater of it, and watch it up

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Speaker 2: and down last night. It was. It was awesome, it

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Speaker 2: really was. And you're right, like you captured it nicely.

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Speaker 3: You know. It's funny.

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Speaker 2: Growing up in Philadelphia it was a big hockey town

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Speaker 2: because the Flyers had broken like a long streak, as

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Speaker 3: They were and they were bad and everything they did.

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Speaker 2: And so the Flyers, like in the seventies, wind up

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Speaker 3: And so growing up when I.

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Speaker 4: It's It's funny. When I was a kid a little

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Speaker 4: my dad just my dad always loved greatness, didn't really

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Speaker 4: matter what it was, he just loved greatness. And so

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Speaker 4: he was a big hockey fan, and I loved Gretzky

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Speaker 4: so but we didn't have cable. So at the end

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Speaker 4: of the summer every year I would get my dad

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Speaker 4: would get up just a box of VHS tapes that

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Speaker 4: a butt of his had taped the entire Oilers Stanley

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Speaker 4: gotta watch Gretzky. And then he was traded to the

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Speaker 4: Kings when I was a kid, so like the which

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Speaker 4: meant so much to hockey in America. We forget right

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Speaker 4: now that there was a period where hockey in America

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Speaker 4: was kind of considered useless, right, So Gretzky going to

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Speaker 4: So I grew up around that. I think I took

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Speaker 4: that just you know that there there were certain moments

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Speaker 4: then in Vegas, you just see how much it ties

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Speaker 4: into a city. And I've made this argument a lot

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Speaker 4: when you talk about why there's success, for example, for

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Speaker 4: they have their favorite, you know, football team because you know,

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Speaker 4: Granpa was a fan of this team, or you know,

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Speaker 4: walk in with these sort of in Nashville, for example,

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Speaker 4: before the Titans ever lived there or went there, I

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Speaker 4: should say, the Cowboys were a big part of this market.

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Speaker 4: So like in Nashville, the Cowboys always sort.

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Speaker 2: Of have oh yeah, Cowboys and every mark.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's just but it's real. Like the Titans

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Speaker 4: you know, you got to make a team. When you're

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Speaker 4: So it becomes a newer fan base, you know, because

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Speaker 4: like all right, I live in Nashville, I live in Vegas,

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Speaker 4: whatever it is, I'm going to become a fan of

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Speaker 4: that team. What we see when you and some of

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Speaker 4: that for the Florida Panthers particularly right, like people in

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Speaker 2: But it Edmonton a little bit different because there's a

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's sure, a lot of retirement.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll give you New York.

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Speaker 2: New York is always on the East coast and Chicago's

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Speaker 2: on the West coast, and both of that was.

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Speaker 4: That was Detroit. When the Preds first started playing in Nashville.

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Speaker 4: I went to the first ever Pred's game, and I

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Speaker 4: have a puck still in my desk that they gave

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: I think he's uh, I think he's I think without

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Speaker 2: It's a perfect time because I'll be trying to get

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Speaker 2: my boy up to a good morning.

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Speaker 5: Figure morning Couzin's going on.

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Speaker 3: We're doing with my brother?

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Speaker 5: Oh excellent, as you guys are talking about, just one

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Speaker 5: of the most exciting, you know, especially if you don't

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Speaker 5: have a dog in the fight. Like, what's more exciting

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Speaker 5: than seeing a team rally down from three to nothing

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Speaker 5: and for deciding game seven. How much doesn't get much

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Speaker 5: better than that in a sport like you guys mentioned,

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Speaker 5: nothing better than playoff hockey because you're living and dying

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Speaker 5: with every single shot, every single pass, every single save.

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Speaker 5: It's different. In basketball, a team can go on to run.

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Speaker 5: Even in the NFL, you know, it's a progression. Typically

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Speaker 5: just nothing like the drama and the emotion that goes

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Speaker 4: No, I'm back, and I just wanted to finish the

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Speaker 4: I don't know where it dropped out, but I just

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Speaker 4: wanted to say quick. The fact that you've got Oilers fans,

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Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, my grandfather, my great grand they were

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Speaker 4: Oilers fans, Like these families did watch those championship runs

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Speaker 4: that were years ago, you know, So I just think

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Speaker 4: it hits different. I've been very clear that I've been

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Speaker 4: rooting for the Oilers through this process because it just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, it's not even close.

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Speaker 2: Like I like, listen, let's be let's be keep it

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Speaker 3: I was going to ask you.

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Speaker 2: Why Nashville and Vegas are different the way they consume it.

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Speaker 2: The show like both both Nashville and Vegas have a

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Speaker 2: And I do feel for Canada because they treat the

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Speaker 4: Which blew my mind. When we were touring in the

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Speaker 4: and I would turn on because they don't have normal

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Speaker 4: so it's funny because I would turn it on and

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Speaker 4: I would be just looking for football and there was none.

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Speaker 4: But boy, if you wanted a break down of the

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Speaker 4: third line defensive pairings for some random Canadian hockey team,

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Speaker 4: they had you covered. You know, it's just it's You're

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Speaker 4: absolutely right. They they live, eat, and breathe it, and

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Speaker 4: you know, I think when it comes to what makes

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Speaker 4: and Vegas was really clear. And I think one of

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Speaker 4: They went to every single arena for a year before

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Speaker 4: every different situation and they said, what do we love

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Speaker 4: about what this city does and what do we want

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Speaker 4: funny that Nashville actually influenced some of that Vegas stuff,

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Speaker 2: All Right, Welcome back fellas from the Tairaq dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: So I'm watched the the euro started this week and

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Speaker 2: And maybe it's because I was raised more on hockey

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Speaker 3: Miss.

436
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Speaker 2: I have friends of mine in Italy. I mean like

437
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: you know, they'll I mean, they would be throwing, you know,

438
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 2: knives at me they hear this take right, But I

439
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: enjoy it so much more. I don't need a ton

440
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: of offense, but I need just a little bit more.

441
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 4: I think the hardest part about the lack of offense

442
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 4: is how hard it is to just consistently push the

443
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 4: ball up the field at times, right, And by that

444
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 4: I mean to make the comparison to hockey smaller obviously surface,

445
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 4: but they they come in spurts, so like you get

446
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 4: a big blast into the we're going into the aggressive

447
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 4: side of this. Like there's a way you can watch

448
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 4: it and see the flow of it and understand some

449
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 4: of that. I think the hardest part is that just

450
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: establishing possession in the attacking zone is at times a

451
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 4: chore in soccer. So for me, what can get a

452
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 4: little tiresome is like, all right, turnover at midfield and

453
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 4: then deep kick, and turnover at midfield and deep kick,

454
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 4: and it's just like it'd be like if you were

455
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 4: watching in a football game and it never got into

456
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 4: the red zone, and it's just what it feels like.

457
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 4: They're playing from the twenty to twenty so often. And

458
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 4: I understand that, you know, that's part of the beauty

459
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 4: of it, but it just can be especially on TV.

460
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 4: I think it's a particularly tough watch for that for

461
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 4: that reason for a lot of people, myself include.

462
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you get these like of opportunities, like

463
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: like a three to one match or two one could

464
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 2: be like ridiculously exciting if you got at least shots

465
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: on goal, right, like at least some stuff.

466
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 3: There's nothing more interesting.

467
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 2: And I was watching Argentina Canada, and.

468
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: It's funny.

469
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: Thursday night, I'm like, I come home from practice from

470
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: baseball practice, and uh, there.

471
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 3: Was really there was. I don't think there was many

472
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 3: games on or whatever.

473
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: And so I was watching Argentina Canada, and Canada is

474
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: playing like a press and so Argentina has got all

475
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: the talent in the world, right, like they're the best

476
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: in the you know, in the Americas, and so the

477
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: Canada was pressing them.

478
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 3: And they were going out.

479
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 2: So it was interesting the the the odd man Russias

480
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: that they gave up, but they gave up some some fast.

481
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Speaker 3: Breaks and it was.

482
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Speaker 2: I mean it was thrilling, Like the fast break piece

483
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 2: of it was was wild. Although then America got ripped

484
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 2: or the United States got ripped because they put this

485
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 2: bad side in the Mercedes Benz in Atlanta and the

486
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: players are ripping it. It was like they were saying

487
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: how hard and horrible was and slippery it was, so

488
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: you know, we got ripped in the end, but it

489
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: was it was so interesting, like it's thrilling when they

490
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: have these odd man breaks.

491
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Speaker 3: Fig.

492
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll be honest with you, I didn't necessarily tune

493
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 5: in for this one, but I will see. I will

494
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 5: speak on a general sense when it comes to soccer.

495
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 5: I will say we talk about the excitement that comes

496
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 5: to playoff hockey and being able to you know, rest

497
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 5: on you know, the shots on goal and we're living

498
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 5: and dying with every single shot. I will say that

499
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 5: it happens, to Fitz's point to a certain degree, so

500
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 5: infrequently when you do get a rush on goal and

501
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 5: something finally happens, it takes it up to even more

502
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 5: more of a higher notch, and especially as the matches

503
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 5: get more and more important. And I think you brought

504
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 5: up one particular distinctive phrase there, and it's in watching

505
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 5: it on television, it doesn't translate. If you've ever been

506
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 5: in person for a big time soccer match, from start

507
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 5: to finish for ninety minutes, it is unbelievable. It's one

508
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 5: of the great atmospheres you will ever witness.

509
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 3: Where did you go? I've never been to a soccer match.

510
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 5: So I went to a concor CAF Championship match between

511
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 5: Team USA and Mexico a couple of years ago. It

512
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 5: was at the Rose Bowl. And I've been to Rose

513
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 5: Bowl games, I've been to college football playoff games. I've

514
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 5: been to every major events you can speak of, and

515
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 5: that is one of the most electric atmospheres I've ever

516
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 5: been in. And like, look, look that that was cocking CAF.

517
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 5: It was Mexico, wassa. It wasn't a World Cup match

518
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 5: or anything, but it was a big deal for us

519
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 5: in North America. But even still from a grand scale standpoint,

520
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 5: nowhere near the magnitude of some of these other matches.

521
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 5: And even still, it was one of the most electric

522
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 5: atmospheres I've ever experienced. And I believe the final score

523
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 5: may have been three to two. Mexico scored a goal

524
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: late and ended up winning, but that is one of

525
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 5: the most electric atmospheres I've ever experienced, and it would

526
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 5: not have translated as well watching on television. It just

527
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 5: wouldn't have.

528
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 4: Just go to an MLS match, like I'll say that,

529
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 4: Like I was lucky enough to get to cover a

530
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: bunch of them when I was at ESPN, and then

531
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 4: I played the national anthem for the opening of the

532
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 4: new MLS stadium in Nashville. Actually, and I'm telling you,

533
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 4: like you get into the supporters groups that they have

534
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 4: that are at these things, and they're all they always

535
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 4: in every MLS stadium, the supporters have a special area

536
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 4: behind one of the goals and they all stand and

537
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 4: they got drums everywhere and chances and colored smoke that

538
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 4: goes out the entire time. Like it is an experience

539
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: going to a match like it's it's it's it'll make

540
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 4: you a fan immediately, like anything else. It's just better

541
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 4: in person. But particularly the Figgy's point me, even MLS matches.

542
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 4: I went to Cincinnati, Portland, a couple others, I think

543
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 4: Orlando when I was with Four Letters, and I'm telling you,

544
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 4: every one of them has their own. This is our

545
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 4: special thing that we do and it will, It'll change

546
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 4: your whole perspective on the sport. The only problem is,

547
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: and then this has been me every time. Every time

548
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 4: I go, I come out of it and I'm like,

549
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 4: you know what I'm gonna invest in. I'm going to

550
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 4: become a die hard soccer fan because that was so cool.

551
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 4: And then you watch like ten minutes on TV and

552
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 4: you're like, yep, nope, nope, no, can't do it. So

553
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: for me, it just doesn't hit the same anything.

554
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny, I should say. I it's funny, it's freudian.

555
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 2: I said, I hadn't been to a soccer match, but

556
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 2: I've gone to a couple Union MLS matches, right, so

557
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 2: I've been to a couple of them.

558
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: But I meant, I like, to me, like you.

559
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: Got a Premier League or the Bondes League, Siria, like

560
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: you know those Europeans the way they are the South

561
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: Americas like the way they do soccer is I mean,

562
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: I don't like, I've never been to those stadiums, but

563
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: like you get you look at the stands and it's

564
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: non stop cheering the whole time, like you know, it's wild.

565
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: So I guess I guess I take the United States

566
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: out of it when it comes to when it comes

567
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: to that like the grand stage of it.

568
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and to a certain degree, I understand that.

569
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 5: But to fits this point, even I think even going

570
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 5: to the Union games, yet it's not on the same

571
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 5: scale as say a Premier League match, but even still

572
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 5: like the energy in the building, it's I won't say

573
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 5: it's unmatched from say, you know, an NBA playoff game

574
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 5: or a college football game or anything like that, but

575
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 5: it's it's fairly comparable, especially if if you sit, you know,

576
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 5: in those team sections. I know, the Galaxy EA have

577
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 5: a pretty rockets at LAFC is phenomenal, and the experience

578
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 5: that they have at their stadium in downtown Los Angeles.

579
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 5: If you're ever in LA and have a chance to

580
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 5: go to an LAFC game, you should absolutely do it

581
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 5: because it's a phenomenal atmosphere. You know, you really just

582
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 5: feel the energy in the building. So so yes, it's

583
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 5: not the same I'm imagining as a Premier League match,

584
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 5: but it's still pretty up there. It's pretty up there

585
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 5: with the experience you would have in most other North

586
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 5: American sports. Because the fans who are fans of those

587
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 5: teams passionately, like you know, people like Fitz and I

588
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 5: will love to be who say we want to be

589
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 5: when we go to a game, and then we just

590
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 5: kind of forget about it when we watch it on TV.

591
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 5: But the ones who are actually the passionate fans that

592
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 5: do go to every game, you almost feed off of

593
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 5: their energy once you get in there.

594
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that, you know, I completely get that.

595
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: It's just weird because because watching the you know, like

596
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: when you're the Euros, it's like this epic you know,

597
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: ancient like rivalries and Spain versus Italy and I was

598
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: watching that the other day and they're you know, it's

599
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: like these blood rivals. It's you know, Yankees and Red

600
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: Sox on steroids and uh Yankees Dodgers, right, and I'm

601
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: watching this and I'm going, it's just like these people

602
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: like this is our football, but the the the sport

603
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: from an American's untrained eye, it's good, but it's like

604
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: it gets tedious.

605
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 5: Say what you won't say? People say it's boring.

606
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's boring.

607
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just not gonna mince words. They're fits

608
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 5: like people just it's it's there's not a lot of

609
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 5: scoring it's a very you know, defensive sport. There's a

610
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 5: lot of tactics that go into it. If you don't

611
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 5: under ad think fits bro watching.

612
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: The Jersey Devils New Jersey Devils back in the yeah

613
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: early two thousands played left wing lock.

614
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but guys, are we not consistent with this? Like

615
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 4: think about it if you watch a hockey game. If

616
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 4: you go to a hockey game and you see one

617
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 4: shot on goal for the entire second period, you're gonna

618
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 4: get intermission when you're grabbing a beer with the buddies.

619
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 4: You're gonna make this game stinks, right, Like if you

620
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 4: watch a football game and the final score.

621
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: I was at the.

622
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 4: Vikings Raiders that odd.

623
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like the Vikings.

624
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 4: Raider game were all of a sudden, You're like there

625
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 4: was this three nothing? Was this gonna be zero zero?

626
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 4: What like that? Would we watch those sorts of games

627
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 4: in any sport? We're like, yeah, that sucks. Like this

628
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 4: is what we do, Like we want points, we want

629
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 4: to be entertained.

630
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: You know.

631
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 5: The crazy thing is how football has evolved because when

632
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 5: it first started, you had like, oh, the final score

633
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 5: is seven to five. There was a couple of safeties

634
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 5: in there. Maybe there was a field goal, two yards

635
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 5: and a cloud of dust. And now the game has

636
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 5: evolved over the last you know, seventy years whatever it's been.

637
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 5: Soccer hasn't changed at all in the and there's something,

638
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 5: you know, really cool about that.

639
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something special about that.

640
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: I agree, I aloy think it would change the whole

641
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: complex of the game.

642
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: If you if there was no all sides.

643
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, like if you were able and I

644
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: don't know, I mean you could tweak it and you

645
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: know you can't shoy pick, but you could do that

646
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: or whatever whatever you want to do it, but it

647
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: would it would make the game. Like so I hate

648
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: to say it, but it would make the game so

649
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: much better.

650
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 5: Man it Like the issue is we're in the minority

651
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 5: and thinking that because the rest of the world thinks

652
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 5: the game is perfectly fine. I know the ones that

653
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 5: constantly want to put in tweaks and say we got

654
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Speaker 5: to get more entertainment value, story, we got to change

655
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Speaker 5: it up a little bit. They're like, the game's been

656
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 5: around for one hundred and sixty years and it's fine.

657
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 5: Why why change it? It's beautiful the way that it is. Yeah, No,

658
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 5: it goes to their culture.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, because you go to any European city and

660
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: the buildings are the same for two thousand years, right

661
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: sands any wars, right, any world wars, and they make

662
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Speaker 2: sure that they don't put new construction ice ores, right,

663
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Speaker 2: Like what the characoing to Europe is being taken back

664
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Speaker 2: into this place that's so different than the United States.

665
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Speaker 2: Like you go to a city United States, it feels

666
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Speaker 2: so different than if you're in Paris or Rome or Barcelona.

667
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a really good point because we are

668
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Speaker 4: definitely a society that wants shiny new thing. We want

669
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Speaker 4: to be entertained all the time, like we're a gladiator

670
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: society at this point, you know. And that's that's across

671
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: the board. You're right, there is not some realm of

672
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Speaker 4: like ooh, I respect this for where it's come from,

673
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 4: Like I respect the history of it. Hell, even when

674
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Speaker 4: we even when we try to provide history on it,

675
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Speaker 4: we still want to find drama with it. Like we're

676
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Speaker 4: not We're not a historical society, right, right or wrong.

677
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 4: We are just a society of like shiny new.

678
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Speaker 5: Toys, right, yeah, because where the main ones to call like,

679
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 5: oh man, the Colosseum is a dump. You know, if

680
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 5: there was a two hundred year old stadium out you know,

681
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 5: out in Italy or something like, oh this is this

682
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 5: is majestic. Why would we want to make any alterations?

683
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Speaker 5: Or let's make some modernizations on the inside, but keep

684
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Speaker 5: the aesthetic on the outside. Even though we say it

685
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 5: looks like a piece of crap, they think there's a

686
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Speaker 5: charm to it.

687
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Speaker 2: Yes, it was funny, Like I'll never forget I was

688
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: over here in I was at the coliseum in Rome

689
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Speaker 2: last year. Don't want to tour for my wife's company,

690
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Speaker 2: and she does an Italy tour company, and so we

691
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Speaker 2: were there for h in the coliseum and I hear

692
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Speaker 2: these Americans repid.

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Speaker 3: It right like I'm thinking about yourself.

694
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Speaker 2: Expect we think this is lampboat Field two thousand years old?

695
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Speaker 3: All right, Like come on, man, give me a break.

696
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Speaker 5: She respect respect.

697
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Speaker 3: What's there?

698
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Speaker 5: What do you want to put a satellite dish on

699
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 5: top of it? Like? What goes along with you?

700
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 3: Are you looking for luxury boxes? Man?

701
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: It's the best, all right. We got a couple of

702
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: really good stories. I want to get to. Oh one,

703
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: we got to talk about JJ Reddick. I do want

704
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 2: to touch on the passing of Willie Mays. There's lots

705
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: to do today, and then of course football, because that's

706
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: what the fellas do. We are the fellas right here

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00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Sports Radio Radio, Welcome back, Fellas

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00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: from the ti iraq dot com studios. Jason fitz Kevin Figures.

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Speaker 2: So everybody's talving about it. You know JJ Raddick to say,

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00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: fig your it's your team, your squad, your Lakers.

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Speaker 3: J J.

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Speaker 2: Reddick from the podcast Microphone to your head coach.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's I mean, that's how it was turning

714
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 5: into these days, right. You know, guys with no experience

715
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 5: continue to get jobs and become a talking head on

716
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 5: television act like you know what you're talking about. And

717
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 5: I'm not saying he doesn't. He absolutely does. I'm sure

718
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 5: he's very bright, he's intelligent. I'm sure he can be

719
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Speaker 5: on the track to be a good head coach at

720
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Speaker 5: some point, and maybe he will be. We've seen guys

721
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Speaker 5: be successful as first time he had coaches, Steve Kerr.

722
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 5: Granted Steve Kerr was a general manager for years. There's

723
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 5: just an element of paying your dues to a certain degree.

724
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Speaker 5: And maybe I'm old school, am I thinking? When it

725
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 5: comes to this, but be an assistant for a year

726
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 5: or two, you know, at least a couple of years

727
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 5: learn the ropes. It's just tough to be thrust in,

728
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Speaker 5: especially in a situation like this. You know, if you

729
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 5: had a roster like Oklahoma City, you know, or Orlando

730
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Speaker 5: or as a young team that's talented and on the

731
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Speaker 5: you know, on the come, with a bunch of young,

732
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 5: multiple guys, it'd be different. But you're coaching, you know,

733
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 5: a franchise, delusional or not, that has designs of competing

734
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Speaker 5: for championships, especially right now with Lebron on his way

735
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 5: out and Anthony Davis on the back end of his prime.

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Speaker 5: It's just really difficult to be thrust into a locker room,

737
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 5: into an organization like that with that level of expectation

738
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Speaker 5: as a first year head coach. So will he be

739
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 5: a good head coach? I think he might. I think

740
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 5: he's very sharp, I think he's very intelligent. I think

741
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 5: he will modernize the Lakers to a certain degree because

742
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 5: they were one of the most old school thinking franchises,

743
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 5: and I think that's helped him back over recent years.

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00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 5: I just don't know if he's the right person for

745
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 5: this job right now, but we'll have to see what happens.

746
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 2: Well, you go from perhaps one of the great ex

747
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: and oh coaches of that that's coaching right now, right

748
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: like in Hurly, Yeah, to JJ with no experience, right.

749
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 5: And Hurley was the guy they wanted, you know. And

750
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 5: and it was reported on on Friday that Genie Bus

751
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 5: more than anybody, was the person who you know banging

752
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 5: the table. Now, she didn't bang it enough because if

753
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 5: she did, she would have pointed up more money for him.

754
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 5: Whether or not they felt that he used them as leverage,

755
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 5: they definitely gave him a low ball offer. They offered

756
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 5: him less than Kentucky offered him. So how serious the Lakers?

757
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: I thought the same thing.

758
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, if you're gonna go ahafter Danny Harley, do

759
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: you bet come correct?

760
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not a godfather offer, that's a you know,

761
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 5: we'll offer you a lot of money and and rest

762
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 5: on our laurels of saying where the Laker franchise? Don't

763
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 5: you want to coach for us? Right? Was like, no,

764
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 5: we don't. This ain't nineteen eighty four, brother, This this

765
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 5: a different it's a different time in space.

766
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Speaker 4: Really, here's my question though, Guys like what's the point, Like,

767
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: I don't understand what the hell the Lakers are doing

768
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 4: right now. Nothing the Lakers are doing today is getting

769
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 4: them any closer to actually winning a championship. So congrats,

770
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 4: you're gonna bring Lebron back, and you're gonna bring a

771
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: D back, and you're gonna bring in JJ Reddick, and

772
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: you're gonna be an irrelevant team in the in the

773
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 4: grand scheme of actual cut championship conversation. Next year, nothing's

774
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 4: gonna get drastically better and we're gonna continue to delay

775
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 4: the inevitable. Well this is partially for the rebuild post Lebron,

776
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 4: Like what are they waiting for? Like, I I understand

777
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 4: the star power of what the Lakers do, but right

778
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 4: now it makes no sense. I don't remember the last

779
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 4: time the Lakers actively went into a season basically saying, yeah,

780
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 4: we don't have any shot at the championship, but that's

781
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: just the way it's gonna be, and did it intentionally,

782
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 4: And that's what they're doing right now.

783
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, before Lebron came in, Yeah, basically the years before

784
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 5: Lebron arrived, when they are basically admittedly in a full

785
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 5: on rebuild. But yeah, they're kind of in no man's.

786
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 4: Land at this point, they're released trying like they rebuild.

787
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 4: They were like, we got to get through this, We

788
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 4: got to get through that, we got to try this.

789
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 5: They had a plan. Yeah, to your point is that

790
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 5: they actually had a plan of action. Here's what we're doing.

791
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 5: Here is our goal, and I think bringing.

792
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Speaker 3: In you can't have a plan with Lebron, Well.

793
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, your only plan there is to put a championship

794
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 5: roster together, which I don't think they're capable of doing

795
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 5: right now. They don't even have the movable assets to

796
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 5: bring in the course sort of players to improve the

797
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 5: roster enough to make them a legitimate championship contender. That's

798
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 5: the issue.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that fits fits, That's that's the biggest problem. Brother.

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Speaker 2: I think Lebron there's no way you could win with

801
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 2: Lebron an a D right now.

802
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 3: But these as are on the roster. What are you

803
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 3: gonna do?

804
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 4: That's why they should have just blown it all up

805
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 4: this year, Just blown it up and start the rebuild. Now,

806
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 4: this is a waste of time for LA.

807
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 5: And if that was the case, if you were gonna

808
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 5: blow it up, you know what, maybe I'd sign off

809
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 5: on JJ Redick because why not.

810
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he you Okay, let let's let's go back

811
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Speaker 2: to it where the Fellas rop against it right here.

812
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Speaker 2: Uh Fox Sports Radio FITZI cuz fig.

813
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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

814
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Speaker 3: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning.

815
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Speaker 5: Good morning.

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00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: Happy Fox Sports Saturday Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargana, Kevin Figures,

817
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: the right FITZI, and the great Figgy my boys. In fact,

818
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: I'll pay you guys a funny compliment in that I

819
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: hate getting up. I'm just not a morning person. I've

820
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: never really been a morning person. It's one of the

821
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: reasons why I love being a sports writer. I cover

822
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: games and go do stories. I'd stay up all night

823
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Speaker 2: long writing and doing that and sleep until ten eleven o'clock.

824
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 2: That was my dream until I got into radio and TV.

825
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: And I hate getting up. I'm up for fifteen minutes

826
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: and we're our first break, and I'm like, you know,

827
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Speaker 2: I love this show. I love these guys. I look

828
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Speaker 2: forward to Saturday mornings as once. I hate getting up

829
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Speaker 2: at the at four thirty in the morning on Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: I love hagging out with you guys. So let me

831
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Speaker 2: just say that, all right, you guys are the best.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, this is like one of the highlights of

833
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: the week. It truly is. I feel like what we are,

834
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 4: we're we're not like this old, but I feel that

835
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: there's something about this is like you know, when you

836
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 4: get to a certain age and like you just go

837
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 4: meet your like your old buddies at the McDonald's for

838
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 4: the fifty cent coffee and you just talk about what

839
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 4: happened the night before. I feel like that's what we are.

840
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: Saturday mornings. It's like our little McDonald's big breakfast and

841
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 4: little coffee.

842
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, you just sit down and you just start,

843
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 5: you know, shooting that you know what, and just talking

844
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 5: about whatever. Sometimes it's sports, sometimes it's about the kids.

845
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's about you know whatever. And it just feels natural.

846
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 5: I'm right there in lockstep with both of you. This

847
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 5: is one of the highlights of every week for me.

848
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really I love it. I do. I really

849
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Speaker 3: enjoy enjoy you guys. Hey.

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Speaker 2: And it's funny because you know, you go through your

851
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: week and we're all doing our different things, and you know,

852
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: you know, Fitz.

853
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: He's running around Yahoo and it's got him going.

854
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: Crazy and going everywhere and Figgies obviously on the network,

855
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: and he's also doing the LA Local and I'm doing

856
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: my Philly stuff and everything else, and like, you know,

857
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: it's like, oh cool man, I get to hang out

858
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: boys on Saturday.

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00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: That's kind of That's kind of what it is.

860
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: You get the reset, and you know, you know how

861
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 2: many times I'll sit and I'll think back to our

862
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: conversations that we'll have and they're just really interesting and

863
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 2: I'll you know, wind up using them or talking about them,

864
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 2: you know, during the week.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, certain takes and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: So we were talking about JJ Reddick and don't forget

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Speaker 3: So let's get back to it.

873
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Speaker 2: If you were going to rebuild, would you go JJ

874
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: Redick or would you JJ Redick only there because the

875
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: lebron and and I'm with you guys in that. I mean, listen,

876
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you got to go, do you know,

877
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: hard life in the CBA like he used to back

878
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: in the day, or go, you know, go coach you know,

879
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: Northern Iowa for five years and then you could go

880
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: coach in the NBA.

881
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: But like, at least be in a system for a year.

882
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 5: Dude, just sit on Spolster's brinch for two years or something.

883
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 5: You know exactly, I'm asking a whole lot here. I

884
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 5: don't think that's too much to ask.

885
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 4: The whole move just screams ah, what the hell? Like

886
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 4: I just every part of it. Where do we know

887
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 4: to the point that you just asked, will he is

888
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 4: he the right coach for a rebuild? Who knows? I mean,

889
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: the Lakers have just hired somebody that we know nothing

890
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: about when it comes to being able to coach and

891
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 4: can he win the locker room? When the whole time

892
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 4: they're going to be sitting there saying, well, is this

893
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 4: what you want? Or you just like saying what you're

894
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 4: just regurgitating Lebron's takes. Like the whole podcast thing feels

895
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 4: kind of weird coming into it. I just I understand

896
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 4: that JJ's very popular for his basketball intelligence on TV.

897
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 4: I just we have no idea how that's going to

898
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 4: translate in a locker room. How that translates with this

899
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 4: team of veterans, How that translates when they are doing

900
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 4: their rebuild, Like, I have no reason after the Jj

901
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: Reddick hire to believe that suddenly the Lakers are going

902
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 4: to be a championship team in the next one three,

903
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 4: five years. Like, it just doesn't. None of those things

904
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 4: make more sense because JJ's on.

905
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 5: The bench now that the devil's advocate outlook would be.

906
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 5: You know, if we're gonna say that the roster is

907
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 5: as flawed as we all believe that it is and

908
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 5: they weren't going to compete for a championship anyway, then

909
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 5: did it really make a difference who they hired as

910
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 5: the head coach? And should they just take us swing

911
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 5: at JJ Reddick and see what happens. I'm not saying

912
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 5: that's how you should operate a franchise, but if it

913
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily matter Memphis to do.

914
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: If you're like, if you're New Orleans, like, that's what

915
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 4: you do. If you're a team that's like sometimes relevant,

916
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 4: that's not what you do. If you're the Lakers. The

917
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 4: Lakers have sold us to Spillow Goods that they are

918
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 4: the ultimate team of championships. So though the Celtics can

919
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 4: now hang that banner in their arena instead, But the

920
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 4: Lakers are telling you every year we are here to compete.

921
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: We are the Lakers.

922
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: And now I'm just looking around saying, okay, how I

923
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 4: understand the Bubble Championship. I don't believe in asterisks, so

924
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 4: I'll give you that one. But everything else since then

925
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 4: has just been sort of midt. Everything about this is

926
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 4: just meh. The move, the roster, the current state of

927
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 4: the organization, where they rank in the West, it's all met.

928
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 4: There's no reason right now old places dollar bet on

929
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 4: the Lakers winning anything.

930
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even buy the body. And I'll go to

931
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Speaker 5: Anthony in a sec. But I will say, even with

932
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 5: the Bubble Championship, the ten years before that were terrible. Yeah,

933
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 5: the Bubble Championship was was a small positive blip on

934
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 5: the radar for ever since twenty eleven and when they

935
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 5: got run off of the floor by the Dallas Mavericks

936
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 5: in the playoffs and Phil Jackson's last year, they've been terrible.

937
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 5: They've been an atrocious organization.

938
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right, you're just spottling. The other problem

939
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: is the inconsistency, which is you go from Hurley to Reddick.

940
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: You go from a guy that was born to coach

941
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 2: right to a guy that decides to coach in the

942
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 2: last fifteen minutes before he goes to break.

943
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Speaker 5: Now, he did interview for the Charlotte job last year,

944
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 5: for whatever that means. Now, whether that was a token

945
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 5: interview just to get his foot in the door or what,

946
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 5: it wasn't just the Lakers coming completely out of nowhere

947
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 5: and interviewing him. He for whatever reason goodwill contacts in

948
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 5: the league, has had traction from a couple of different places,

949
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 5: and even Detroit after they fired Monty Williams. There were

950
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 5: reports that Detroit wanted to try to make a late

951
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 5: pushchair at least interview him before he signed with the Lakers.

952
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 5: So somebody out there in the NBA likes him for

953
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 5: some particular reason. It isn't just exclusive to the Lakers.

954
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 5: But again, if you're talking Detroit going nowhere rebuild, the

955
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 5: Charlotte perpetually going nowhere rebuild, it makes a lot more

956
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 5: sense than for a team, and for a franchise that

957
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 5: supposedly is championship or bust on a year in, year

958
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 5: out basis.

959
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: Well But my point is if you interview with the

960
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: Charlotte right, you interview with Charlotte and now I got

961
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: that right, you know, Duke the whole Carolina thing right

962
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 2: for everything?

963
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: I get it. But if you're JJ Reddick, who shitt

964
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 3: on somebody's bench for.

965
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: A year, Like if you really were in the coaching

966
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: coach sit on somebody's bench, you if you knew last

967
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 2: year that you were that coaching was kind of something

968
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: you wanted to do, well, you have the pick of

969
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: any coach you wanted to. Like, if JJ Reddick said,

970
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: Hey Danny Hurley or Hey Eric Spolstra, I want to

971
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 2: I wanna be your assistant, they would give him that

972
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: car point. He would he would be an assistant coach

973
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: and he would have learned for sat on the bench

974
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: for a year, and after that I feel a lot

975
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: better about him instead of going hanging out with Doris.

976
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 4: That's a really good point. No, that's a really good

977
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 4: point that that you know, there's sort of a process

978
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 4: of and it raises the question of are you are

979
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 4: you aware? Are you self aware enough of the things

980
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 4: you don't know to be great at what you're getting into?

981
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 4: And I just think that that such a key in life.

982
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 4: I don't care what we're talking about, Like whenever you're

983
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 4: trying a different spin at what you do. And we

984
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 4: say this all the time in the NFL, like offensive

985
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 4: coordinator defensive coordinator, far different than head coach. I believe

986
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 4: they're wildly different jobs, right, so you know, you can

987
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 4: observe and eventually you just got to take the plunge.

988
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 4: But at least you're observing from a different standpoint. Like

989
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 4: the only version of this that JJ knows in that

990
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: level right now is a player's version of it. And

991
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 4: how that's going to translate to being a coach and

992
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 4: dealing with all that we have. It's just have no idea.

993
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 4: And we've seen this at the college level over and

994
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: over again. I mean, how did the Penny Hardaway thing

995
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: work out for Memphis so far? How did Juwan work

996
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 4: out from Michigan? Right Like, it's just you can put

997
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 4: players on the bench and it doesn't make them great coaches.

998
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 4: It's it's a much.

999
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 5: Different skill set and even the x's and o's, like

1000
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 5: bringing out the whiteboard and drawing up plays. I mean,

1001
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 5: I'm not going to say anybody can do it, but

1002
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 5: anybody that's been a measurable amount of time in basketball

1003
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 5: can probably draw up a half decent play. It's less

1004
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 5: about that when you're a head coach. You know, to

1005
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 5: your point, Anthony, if you want to be a coach,

1006
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 5: and be a real coach in coach basketball, you would

1007
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 5: want to be an assistant. Those are the guys that

1008
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 5: are in the grinder, watching film on off the side,

1009
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 5: work with the players you know, you know, before practice,

1010
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 5: after practice, teaching and all that stuff. The head coach,

1011
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 5: really at any professional level at this point in time,

1012
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 5: is less about x's and o's and more about all

1013
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 5: of the other stuff, managing the media, managing egos within

1014
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 5: the locker room, and player relationships and all that stuff.

1015
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 5: It's more about that than nexes and o's. Doc Rivers

1016
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 5: is one of the best coaches that drawing up a

1017
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 5: playout of an out of bounce play he had once

1018
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 5: since two thousand and eight. How great of a coach

1019
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 5: is he. He's been run off with a couple of

1020
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 5: different franchises here these last couple of years, so and then,

1021
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 5: and Milwaukee didn't fare a whole hell of a lot

1022
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 5: better once he got there. After they fired Adrian Griffin,

1023
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 5: and people are already calling for him to be ousted there.

1024
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 5: So being able to draw draw up a player do

1025
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 5: x's and o's is not really I would say, a

1026
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 5: skill set that is in demand for a head coach

1027
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 5: at this point in time at most levels of professional sports.

1028
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 5: So if that's what JJ Redick is holding his hat

1029
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 5: on and what the Lakers were more impressed by, I

1030
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 5: don't know if that's something that they should really be

1031
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 5: focusing on.

1032
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 4: Look, I'm consistent on this, Like I think Dan Orlowski

1033
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 4: does a beautiful job of breaking down film. I really

1034
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 4: love Dan's work, There's no doubt about it. If Dan

1035
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 4: Tomorrow became a quarterbacks coach or an offensive coordinator, I'd say, Okay,

1036
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: I understand what somebody's doing there. If Dan Tomorrow became

1037
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 4: a head coach somewhere, I would say, what the hell

1038
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 4: are you doing? Like, it's just it's a much different, Uh,

1039
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 4: the entire task of it is different. You can be

1040
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 4: brilliant with x's and o's. That to Figure's point, it's

1041
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 4: just you got to get in the machine a little

1042
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 4: bit to just be able to sort of churn it out.

1043
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: It's a great point. That's a great point being just

1044
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: in the machine. So Tim Legler, right, who we all

1045
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: know always had as braces of coaching. So Legs tried

1046
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: to coach Lesal. Now he went to Lasal Lesal University

1047
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 2: and phil their program is horrendous, it's a blip. The

1048
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: phillup is a Big five and their fifth and they

1049
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 2: really should be six behind Drexel. Like it's it's a

1050
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: terrible program, an awful, ungodly program. And years years ago,

1051
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: in the back in the day, they used to go

1052
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: to you know, elite eights and final fours, like they

1053
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: had a couple of runs, like deep runs. They were

1054
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: one of one of these really good, you know programs

1055
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 2: in the seventies. Right, But anyway, they're small. They're a

1056
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 2: small Catholic college that is nowhere. Well, leg said, I

1057
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: want to I want to coach, and they had a vacancy.

1058
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: And he had been coaching high school. He had been

1059
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: coaching AAU ball, He had an AAU team while he

1060
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: was doing all his NBA stuff for ESPN, and they

1061
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: didn't think that was worthy enough. And now I'm thinking,

1062
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 2: this guy couldn't get a less sound job, which is

1063
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 2: at the bottom rung of Division I basketball.

1064
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 3: And he went.

1065
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: Out and was coaching AAU and for years and understood

1066
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: that the mechanics of it, dynamic of it. And JJ

1067
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: Redi goes to the Lakers and I'm just going, Wow.

1068
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: And if you spent five minutes talking to Legler, you go,

1069
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 2: this guy's a coach.

1070
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 4: It's curious to me how much of this is just

1071
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: sort of blown up, not only because of the platform

1072
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 4: he has with Lebron, but also because the platform he's

1073
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 4: used on TV to yell about you know, not to yell,

1074
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: but to debate about the way that basketball has been covered.

1075
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 4: And he's really sold the world on I'm the smart

1076
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 4: basketball guy. And as a result, I see things differently

1077
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 4: and I just feel like everybody bought in and now

1078
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 4: it's sort of well, based on what you know, based

1079
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 4: on and look, I'm not going to sit here and

1080
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 4: pretend that I know more about basts than JJ Reddick.

1081
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: That isn't this conversation. This conversation is is JJ Reddick

1082
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 4: the right person to get the Lakers to a championship.

1083
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 4: There's certain organizations that there's only one word that you

1084
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 4: can say about their goal. It's championship. Right Like, you

1085
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 4: don't become part of the Celtics organization to try and

1086
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 4: win and hope you can develop some guys Like that's

1087
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 4: not it. You don't become part of the Lakers organization

1088
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 4: for that. You do become the head coach as Charlotte

1089
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 4: because hey, maybe this goes well. You don't become the

1090
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 4: head coach for the Lakers for that same reason. And

1091
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 4: there's just no proof of concept at all that JJ

1092
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 4: knows absolutely anything about coaching or anything about coaching at

1093
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 4: a level that wins a champion. It's so hard to

1094
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 4: do in the NBA. How does hiring JJ Reddick make

1095
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 4: the Lakers better than the rest of the West in

1096
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 4: the foreseeable future. The answer to that is, we have

1097
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 4: no idea if he actually does, and more likely than not,

1098
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 4: he doesn't.

1099
00:54:55,560 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild now, DVA though it's just a c

1100
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: insane league. So Manti Williams gets blown out of Detroit.

1101
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 3: Did you guys see how much they owe him?

1102
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 5: Sixty four million dollars? Like I want to know, and

1103
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 5: this is like going unreported. Something happened between him and

1104
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 5: Tom Gores. I don't know what it is. First of all,

1105
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 5: Tradejon Landon just walked into the door and he gets it.

1106
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 5: Gets the marching Gordons of ownership. Yeah, you gotta tell

1107
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 5: Monty is gone, and I'm sure trade Jon's like, wait, what,

1108
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 5: you just signed this guy to a sixty seven year contract.

1109
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 5: We mean he's gone. You have me walking in a

1110
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 5: week before the draft, and now I have to find

1111
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 5: a head coach. When I signed up thinking I was

1112
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 5: gonna have this guy for the next six years, It's like,

1113
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 5: how bad you have to be?

1114
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: Like, what did you do that makes somebody want you

1115
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 4: out of the building so much they'll pay you sixty

1116
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 4: four million dollars to leave? Like, I'm genuinely asking Monty

1117
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 4: because I want to find this out in my life

1118
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 4: so that I can get paid sixty four million dollars

1119
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 4: to just go away. That's a wild amount of money.

1120
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 5: Even losing twenty eight straight games, which is hard to

1121
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 5: do with any professional league. I get it. It's not

1122
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 5: like he had a lot to work with though. Either.

1123
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 5: It's like, come on, evenn losing twenty eight straight games

1124
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 5: is not enough for sixty five million dollars for you

1125
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 5: not to work. I'm sorry, that's insane to me, guys.

1126
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 3: He also, what did Phoenix give him on the pie out?

1127
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, he had a couple of years left on

1128
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 5: his deal there after getting him to the NBA Finals.

1129
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: By the way, he's gonna wind up making it close

1130
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 2: to Yeah, I was gonna say, he's gonna be close

1131
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 2: to one hundred million dollars.

1132
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 3: Not to couch, fuck to couch.

1133
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: The greatest score, the greatest scam in the world is

1134
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: Manty Williams.

1135
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 3: He's the full Manti. It's unbelievable.

1136
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 5: He's gonna be sitting sitting on a beach chair next

1137
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 5: to Jimbo Fisher.

1138
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 4: U enough, we need a reality show where we just

1139
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 4: get coaches that have fifty million or more in buyout

1140
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 4: sitting around like sipping on like Peaka coladas, telling us

1141
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: the secrets to life.

1142
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: Three card Monty. I mean, come on, man, that is

1143
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: the greatest show ever.

1144
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 5: The sad thing is Many Williams is actually a good coach.

1145
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 5: He got a run out of Phoenix because the stars,

1146
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 5: you know, drive to everything that they didn't like him,

1147
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 5: the Big three that got you know, put together down

1148
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 5: there with you.

1149
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 3: He was in Philly. I had him in Philly.

1150
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: I love my Actually I liked normally, if you made

1151
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars not to coach in buyout, I

1152
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: would hate you out of your jealousy, right, like just

1153
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: going cheap?

1154
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: Man, I got a growing am I doing wrong? But

1155
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 3: I I'm about.

1156
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: Say that I gotta get a you know, eighty million,

1157
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: But how about I get like two? Right, this mother

1158
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 2: bab is getting closed to my haunted like that's outrageous.

1159
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 2: But he's a good guy, So I go, well, you know,

1160
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: I God blessed man, I raise a glass to you,

1161
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 2: ad to score.

1162
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 3: I know. I. I mean, we're people.

1163
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: You see these numbers and you go, yeah, you know,

1164
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: eighty million dollars whatever it is, sixty six million dollars.

1165
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: They own sixty six million.

1166
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: That's if it was five million, you go, damn five million,

1167
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 2: not to work.

1168
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 3: This is sixty six million. This is generational wealth.

1169
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: Somebody just gave you generational wealth to go away.

1170
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 4: Also much money. I mean, remember this the next time

1171
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 4: we see an owner find well, this owner was fined

1172
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 4: uh one million dollars. If an owner is willing to

1173
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 4: pay sixty four million dollars just to get one coach

1174
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 4: to walk away, remembering they're gonna have to hire an

1175
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 4: entire new staff now on top of that, then let's

1176
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 4: let's remember that the next time we see one of

1177
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 4: those joke finds right.

1178
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean you want to talk about no pity

1179
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 2: whatsoever for these owners, right.

1180
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 3: Like, give me a break.

1181
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Loriie bought the Eagles for like it was like

1182
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: two million dollars back in the nineties. This is brilliant.

1183
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you know it's idiot proof, right, Like you

1184
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: get into the NFL. But he got in the NFL

1185
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: at the actual perfect time. So he's about to sell

1186
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: off ten percent, so which is nothing because he's still

1187
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: the majority owner by long shot. But he sells off

1188
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: ten percent. Well, the franchise is worth close to seven

1189
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: billion dollars, so he's ten percent that he's going to

1190
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: sell off just to sell off is seven hundred million dollars.

1191
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: So he's he sells off a tiny sliver like a

1192
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 2: slice of pizza right of his ownership steak, and he

1193
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: gets his buying money back four times almost.

1194
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 3: Man, think about the in sanity.

1195
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: So you're right, Vincy, I never the last person in

1196
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: the world I'll ever feel sorry for is an owner

1197
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 2: of a professional sports team.

1198
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 4: I just want you know what, why couldn't I been

1199
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 4: the kid of an owner of a professional sports team.

1200
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 4: I blame my parents.

1201
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: He should you know Julian Laurie, who was who was

1202
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: you know, working to take over for his father, sharp

1203
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: guy and old young got great, you know, God bless,

1204
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 2: but like he had the good fortune to be bored

1205
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: to the Lori family, you know, like you know, so

1206
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: much in life is who you're born to.

1207
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 5: Man, you know, you're.

1208
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: Hitting the lottery like some people if you're look at

1209
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: all the and we're seeing this now because of time, right,

1210
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: because of the times we live in. But one of

1211
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: the great stories is the second generation, third generation athletes

1212
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 2: because you know, obviously the gene pool is going to

1213
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: work in your favor, but beyond that, just having the

1214
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: connections to teach the game to you. Like you guys

1215
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: know Jim Tony the Force, right, the great, great home

1216
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: run hitter.

1217
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 3: So he's got a son who is a terrific player.

1218
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: I think Tony's kids like fifteen years old, who's a

1219
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: stud right, just like him. Now it would suffice that

1220
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 2: he has a child. So he has a boy who

1221
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: you know is going to be a big kid like

1222
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: he is, and he's got to where with all to go.

1223
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 3: And teaching the game right, like you know, you get it.

1224
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 2: So God bless, you were born as Jim told me

1225
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: the second right, Like, that's good.

1226
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 5: You're living man.

1227
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: You know, next level that's another show, that's another reality show.

1228
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 3: What's life like?

1229
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 8: You know?

1230
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 4: I could only imagine.

1231
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good stuff. Boys. Let's take a quick t o.

1232
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: I want to come back and I do want to

1233
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: pay homage to Willie Mays and we're gonna do it.

1234
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 2: I have, you know, the five questions for us, and

1235
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring it up now. One of the ones,

1236
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: one of the questions is who do you feel like

1237
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 2: you wanted to watch? Who did you miss out on?

1238
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: And really, Amy is a guy that you know, I wish.

1239
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure all Thravis had wished we'd watched. And every

1240
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 2: person I talk to him about him, like the of

1241
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 2: the old timers, they all tell you what an incredible

1242
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 2: like zest for life that Willy had. So I wanna,

1243
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 2: we wanna, we gotta do that because we always pay

1244
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: a tribute to the big stories of the week and uh,

1245
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 2: the legend of Willie Mace where the fella is hanging

1246
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 2: right here Fox Sports Radio Welcome back, Fellas from the

1247
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:24,080
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1248
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,480
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1249
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,200
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1250
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,120
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01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,440
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1252
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,560
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1253
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 3: You'll see this one. Post it right after we get

1254
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 3: off the air.

1255
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 2: All right, so, uh, my boys, let's uh talk about

1256
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 2: uh to say, hey kid and Willie Mace. Now I

1257
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: from the context of having never seen someone like being

1258
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: jealous of having.

1259
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 3: Watched great news.

1260
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: Yes, and you know, I was talking to Charlie Manuel,

1261
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: who's a dear friend of mine.

1262
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 3: What a longtime baseball guy.

1263
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 2: He was a manager of the Indians and then the Phillies,

1264
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 2: and he's a beautiful guy and he loves baseball.

1265
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 3: And you know, he's one of these you know, six

1266
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 3: degrees of separation.

1267
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 2: He knows everybody from the game and all the old timers.

1268
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 3: And he was talking about Willie Mays and he was.

1269
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 2: Like the amazing piece of what he was so great

1270
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 2: about was he covered. He was such a great defensive

1271
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: player that no one came close. He was, like, dude,

1272
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 2: the greatest center fielder you could ever imagine. Now, time's

1273
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 2: at by ten, and that's Willie Mays. He was an

1274
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: amazing hitter. He had home run, he had power, he

1275
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 2: had speed. He was five too, but he was an

1276
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 2: incredible defensive player, like made trackdown balls in these deep alleys,

1277
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: scaled defences.

1278
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 3: He was like Superman at center field. And that's what

1279
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 3: made him great.

1280
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 4: Speed and athleticism at a different degree than anyone understood

1281
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 4: and how to process or used at that time. Right, Like,

1282
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 4: I just you think about the way athletes were, and

1283
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 4: especially post integration, there were so many guys that I

1284
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 4: don't think we're used to the level of speed that

1285
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 4: they were seeing. And it makes a huge difference when

1286
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 4: you talk about what we take for granted now. You

1287
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 4: know we take for granted now we look at the

1288
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 4: combine in the NFL and you see guys coming in

1289
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 4: and running four two s, Right Like, you got to

1290
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 4: remind yourself of an era of athletes where you know,

1291
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 4: Babe Ruth was showing up to the park, according to

1292
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 4: all the legends and stories, you know, maybe still drunk

1293
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 4: and just going out there and just hitting the baseball.

1294
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 4: And that's far different than what we're talking about here.

1295
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 4: So I think that's part of what We'll always stand

1296
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 4: out to that era is that it really athletes, like

1297
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 4: really changed the entire world of because of what they

1298
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:01,919
Speaker 4: were capable of doing.

1299
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 5: That's the thing that peeves me about people nowadays. And

1300
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 5: so like athletes are and the athletes are better now

1301
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 5: than they were back then, but also these guys are cultivated,

1302
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 5: you know, and coached up and have top notch nutrition

1303
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 5: from the age of like twelve. Like back then, guys

1304
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,479
Speaker 5: had full time jobs in the offseason. Willie May's missed

1305
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 5: time to serve in the military, a lot of guys

1306
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 5: did back then. Like you've been talking about, its being

1307
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 5: a different era in many different facets.

1308
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 3: It was.

1309
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 5: Imagine if Willie Mays, you know, had the sports science

1310
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 5: and all the workout equipment and all that. Look how

1311
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 5: amazing he already was, He'd be so much better if

1312
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 5: he had all the stuff that these kids have now.

1313
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,479
Speaker 5: So it, yes, athletes are are better to a certain degree,

1314
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 5: but you have to make sure we don't lose sight

1315
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 5: of the fact as to why they're better because all

1316
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 5: the the advent of technology and different things is so

1317
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 5: much better now than it was back then. That's why

1318
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 5: when we see great players from back in the Daykah

1319
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 5: Willie mays, you know, I would say he would dominate

1320
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:54,919
Speaker 5: today just like he dominated back then.

1321
01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 4: Well I love that point. Yeah, I love that point,

1322
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 4: and I just I'll reiterate that because you know, I'm

1323
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 4: flying to Jacksonville Monday to be part of a rivals

1324
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 4: camp for high school kids, the five stars that are rising,

1325
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 4: and they're doing all sorts of different things against each other,

1326
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 4: like competitions, and then they're gonna play some seven on seven.

1327
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 4: We're gonna hang out with a bunch of these kids

1328
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 4: and post a bunch of interviews for rivals. But one

1329
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 4: of the things that really hits me when you started

1330
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 4: taking into some of these kids is that, to Figgey's point,

1331
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 4: you've got now especially I mean, Florida has authorized name

1332
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 4: image likeness for high school right, Like you've got kids

1333
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 4: in middle school that are gonna start just being tutored

1334
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 4: and then you know they're gonna play wherever they can

1335
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 4: play every year to year to year to maximize their

1336
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 4: skills and their earning potential. Like that's so different than

1337
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 4: what it was like for anybody, even at the highest

1338
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 4: level of professional sports. You know, it's become truly a

1339
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 4: machine that absolutely is meant to kick out the best

1340
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 4: of what somebody can be as early as possible. And

1341
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,439
Speaker 4: the athletes in that era never had that advantage a shot.

1342
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 4: If they had had those advantages, I would love to

1343
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 4: see what they would be. It's why I hate the

1344
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 4: Jordan versus Lebron debate because everyone's like, well, Jordan couldn't

1345
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 4: play in this NBA, and it's like or Lebron couldn't

1346
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 4: play in that NBA. We presume that athletes from different

1347
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 4: eras wouldn't be able to take advantage of what that

1348
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 4: era gave them. I just I just can't do it.

1349
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 4: We need to understand the athletes today have advantages that

1350
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 4: historically would have absolutely changed every record in every record book.

1351
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 2: Oh I well said you guys, well said, man, It's true.

1352
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 3: I'm watching well.

1353
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 2: I was watching some footage of Willy Mage and in

1354
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 2: one of the great catches, he scales the wall right right,

1355
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 2: one of these one of these like medieval walls right

1356
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 2: where there's no padding. It might as well have had

1357
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 2: spikes on the wall, right, like imagine some medieval castle

1358
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 2: like and you're going up against these walls and he's got,

1359
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, these cleats that are the ancient, like the

1360
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 2: might as well be Dutch wooden shoes on his feet.

1361
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 2: And the dude is is scaling, you know, scaling this

1362
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 2: this crazy wall. And I'm thinking, we are you Kennedy,

1363
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 2: Now you got the best gear, you got padded walls.

1364
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 3: I mean, give me a break, right, Like.

1365
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 2: What he's doing with Willie mas is doing is like

1366
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 2: thousand times tougher.

1367
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 5: One of the great highlights I love seeing was he

1368
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 5: was playing in an old timers game with the Mets,

1369
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 5: and he's like forty four and he makes almost an

1370
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 5: identical over the shoulder catch to the one that he

1371
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:40,799
Speaker 5: made when he was in his prime. That the highlight

1372
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 5: that we all see and love, and he falls to

1373
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 5: the ground, makes an over the shoulder grab, rolls over

1374
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 5: and throws the ball to the endfield like he's twenty two,

1375
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 5: and he's in his forties at just the next level

1376
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 5: athlete at that point in time in the.

1377
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 2: Sixties' thinking about it, right, he's in his forties then,

1378
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 2: which is you know, I mean he's like Brady, yeah, right,

1379
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 2: Like in that sense, like these great there are freaks

1380
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 2: of nature. Now, imagine if he had all the equipment

1381
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:15,560
Speaker 2: and the medical like the medical is so much more.

1382
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: Our medical advances are a maze, truly astounding, and what

1383
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: it does for athletes, it's just incredible. Sports science is

1384
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 2: so impressive now and what you could do medically, What

1385
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 2: we know about our bodies. I mean, it really is

1386
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 2: apples and oranges when you're comparing our.

1387
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 5: Even the simple things like shoes you were just talking about.

1388
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 5: Guys are playing basket professional basketball games in the flimsy

1389
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 5: you know, Converse shoes. I mean, how do you not

1390
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 5: tearing it, break up an ankle every other night playing

1391
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 5: in those things?

1392
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 3: How's your back?

1393
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 4: Not like literally this is the oldest thing I've ever

1394
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 4: said on radio, but like I walked by a Converse

1395
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 4: store the other day because I used to watch Box

1396
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 4: all the time, and I was like, man, I just

1397
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 4: I can't like it hurts my back if I got

1398
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 4: to walk a lot in those like it's just it's

1399
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 4: hurts my back was flat on my feet and can't

1400
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 4: can't do it. I can't imagine running up and down

1401
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 4: the court over and over and over again in those

1402
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 4: golley back.

1403
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 5: In the day when they will play three, you know,

1404
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 5: three dates in a row, you know, and three in

1405
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 5: three different cities.

1406
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yeah, exactly, unless there are sponsor of bars,

1407
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 4: in which case I love them and I would wear

1408
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 4: them every single day. Just see, you got to be clear.

1409
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 5: No, I have like five pairs of Chuck Taylor's in

1410
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 5: my closet right now.

1411
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 4: I'm also short. I can't wear those around other people.

1412
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 4: I'm five nine, Like people tower over me. If I

1413
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 4: wear Chucks, I need height.

1414
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 2: You know, it's hysterical that you bring You bring up

1415
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: the Chucks and if anybody brings up Chuck's day. Everybody

1416
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 2: loves them, right, yeah, I love trying. I hate them

1417
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 2: all right, I never warn them through a sponsor.

1418
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 3: I love you, but I don't.

1419
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 5: Uh no, this is the first. You're right. I've never

1420
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 5: heard anyone say I had you.

1421
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 2: I never liked them. I remember like buying a pair

1422
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 2: because everyone else had a pair, and I'm.

1423
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 3: Like these blow.

1424
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 2: These are horrible, Like I want my Jordans, like give

1425
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 2: me a break, Like why would I wear these?

1426
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 5: And I can wear those?

1427
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 2: Like it's stupid, Like I get it from the like

1428
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: it's a fashion statement. So when he wants to make

1429
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 2: a statement or whenever, that's cool, whatever whatever you're int do.

1430
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 2: But as far as like wearing them. I'm much rot.

1431
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, give me my Jordan's, Like,

1432
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 2: I love my.

1433
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 5: It's a very specific situation when you'd wear the Chuck Taylor's.

1434
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 5: You know, it's like if you're going out, you know

1435
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 5: they did a nicer, fresh and clean and.

1436
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:39,959
Speaker 3: I got my clean Jordans.

1437
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: I have the parodies these old school pumas that I love.

1438
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 5: Comfortable now you know these are like these.

1439
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: Old school like they're all white, they're there were there

1440
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 2: were always like a big deal that I was talking

1441
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: to Mike. Nobody knows these sneakers, these sneakers called Fela

1442
01:12:59,120 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 2: of course.

1443
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 4: Hi school we always said just stood for Finally I

1444
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 4: left Adidas.

1445
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 2: So we used to always have the white feet, like

1446
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 2: the all white to go out when you're going you're dressed, sneakers,

1447
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 2: chalk taylors Man, I have the deck. Everybody loves them,

1448
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: and I can't say that, but I can say to

1449
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 2: you too.

1450
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 4: I'm a while we're just admitting things here. Uh, this

1451
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 4: is sacrilegious to say in the industry we're in. I

1452
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 4: have never in my life bought a pair of Jordans ever,

1453
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 4: Like I just I can't bring myself to spend a

1454
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 4: ton of money on shoes. I've never like so everything

1455
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 4: I wear like and so I wear these obnoxious Neon

1456
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 4: tennis shoes all the time. People always like. I was like,

1457
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 4: oh my god. I was walking through at one of

1458
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 4: the events I think might have been the Super Bowl.

1459
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 4: I was wearing these Neon like uh green things and

1460
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 4: somebody's like, oh my god, are those like Neon custom yeezies?

1461
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 4: And I was like, no, man, I have a save

1462
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 4: search on Amazon that says obnoxious Neon men's shoes and

1463
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 4: if they're under twenty five bucks to buy him, Like,

1464
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 4: that's my that's my shoes. Like, I just I can't.

1465
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 4: I stayed away from the Jordan addiction, and all my

1466
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 4: friends have so many pairs of them, and I'm like,

1467
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 4: I just can't. I can't bring them. I don't like.

1468
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 4: I don't like it when my pants or my my

1469
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 4: whatever I'm wearing, like whether their jeans are like, whether

1470
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 4: they're like you know, at leisure or whatever. I don't

1471
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 4: like for them to bunch at the bottom like, so

1472
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 4: I like them to like and I'm short. I'm five

1473
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 4: nine and a half, so you know, either I got

1474
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 4: to buy really short pants which are hard to do,

1475
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 4: or they're gonna bunch on top of my Jordans, and

1476
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do that. Like high tops don't work

1477
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 4: for me. They bunch on top that. That's not a

1478
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 4: look I like.

1479
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 5: And you don't want to do like to tuck the

1480
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 5: pants into the shoe kind of thing, because that's just

1481
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 5: not the best look either.

1482
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 4: So white figure, I don't need to be that light.

1483
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, like, I don't understand that jersey

1484
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 4: and why I wear it to my.

1485
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 2: Oh talking the shoes, talking to pants in these shoe

1486
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 2: is haride?

1487
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 3: This?

1488
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 2: Where where did that come out? Some dude, young young

1489
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: dude came over and I should do take what is it?

1490
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 3: That's not cool?

1491
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 2: Certain things just aren't cool. They might be new, you

1492
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 2: might try to bring them back, bring it back.

1493
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 3: So not every look is cool. That's not cool.

1494
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: Where you're tucking in your your pants in your shoe

1495
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: ate cool.

1496
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

1497
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 5: There's a lot of young cats who think they look

1498
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 5: fly doing that. It's not to look for me.

1499
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 4: You know what, you know what makes us smart?

1500
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I listen. I know I have the stable.

1501
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 2: Cool is about. That's not cool.

1502
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 4: The reason that we get this as we get older,

1503
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 4: is because we see the pictures of what we thought

1504
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 4: was cool when we were younger, and we realize how

1505
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 4: stupid it looks. So like when you're when you're young

1506
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 4: and you're like, no, man, this looks great. All I

1507
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 4: can say is like, cool, it's a social media era.

1508
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 4: You're gonna be You're gonna be running away from that

1509
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 4: picture for the next fifty years of your life. So congratulations.

1510
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah right, all.

1511
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 5: Right, So what about they tucking the pants into the socks,

1512
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 5: because that's a thing too.

1513
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 3: Dude, No, all right, it's outrageously bad.

1514
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 5: That's even bigger than just tucking straight into the shoes.

1515
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 5: It's like you have, like the crew socks, you'll tuck

1516
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 5: your pants into the socks so you show off the

1517
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 5: socks and the shoes.

1518
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 3: Nerle cool, bro, that's straight up corn.

1519
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 4: I don never want to support pulleying, but like, here's

1520
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 4: the thing. When I was a kid, people like that

1521
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 4: got beat up and maybe it helped him. Maybe it

1522
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 4: helped him.

1523
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, it's just GPS.

1524
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 2: That's a GPPs man. I'm sorry. With fellas hanging Fox

1525
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Fellas from the tai Iraq Dot com Studios.

1526
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:44,440
Speaker 3: That's great from.

1527
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 2: Willie May's talking into your socks, your pants, in your socks, we.

1528
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 5: Said, we talked about anything and everything, right, it's the

1529
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 5: true spanning all topics here in the Fox Sports Radio

1530
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 5: with the fellow.

1531
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 4: I love the fact that we've become so look, let

1532
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 4: me loudly say this to I was a fat kid

1533
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 4: that played the violin growing up, So miss me with

1534
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 4: any conversation about how hard school is because like again,

1535
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,759
Speaker 4: a fat kid playing the violin classical music no less

1536
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 4: does not. That doesn't work well. And I moved around

1537
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 4: all the time. So like the nicest thing anybody wrote

1538
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 4: in my sixth grade yearbook was go back home? All right,

1539
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 4: So I'm bullying and like, but I've always said it

1540
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 4: may be it made me a strong, good person, like

1541
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 4: everything I went through as a kid and made the

1542
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 4: rest of my life much better. So you know, hey,

1543
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 4: there's a light on the other side. I'm just saying

1544
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 4: that in the world of individualistic like, I get that,

1545
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 4: and I love the world, like, but I also think,

1546
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 4: like maybe, you know, maybe everybody needs a friend in

1547
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 4: their life that will look at them and be like, hey, man,

1548
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 4: that's not it. Like I genuinely believe, like, I want

1549
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 4: a friend in my life that will walk up to

1550
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 4: me and be like, I love you, but you're getting fat.

1551
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 4: Like I just I we need that more. And you

1552
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 4: need a friend that will walk up to you and

1553
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 4: be like, hey, I know you think that looks cool,

1554
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 4: but it really doesn't. And you're gonna hate yourself in

1555
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 4: ten years when you look at a picture of it.

1556
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 4: I just if you don't have that friend in your

1557
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 4: life right now, do a little introspective thinking. If you

1558
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 4: don't have that guy or girl in your life, go

1559
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 4: get that person, because otherwise you're making mistakes. I'm just

1560
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 4: telling you you need that person.

1561
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 5: You spot on.

1562
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 3: Man.

1563
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 2: We all need that. We all need that, you know.

1564
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 2: That's the essence of friendship. That also is Listen, I

1565
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 2: grew up with my group of friends. We're about you know,

1566
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 2: eight ninety type of thing. And you know, you get

1567
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 2: your balls broken right for lack of a better word,

1568
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 2: And that's to keep you with live when you bust

1569
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 2: somebody stones, it's to tell you without telling you you're

1570
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 2: getting fat, or to tell you without telling you that's

1571
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: a horrible look, right Like, that's busted stones.

1572
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 3: And you go, oh, I guess I gotta work all that.

1573
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 2: That's the essence of it without having like a deep conversation,

1574
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 2: like you know, you know, you might want to put

1575
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 2: down that hamburg that you know double quarter pound there,

1576
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:17,759
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1577
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 4: I mean, even when you're ordering it, you need the

1578
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 4: one friend of the table that you're like, I will

1579
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 4: take a double quarter pounder with cheese, and let's get

1580
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 4: the biggest fry. You need the one friend over the side.

1581
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 4: It's like that's all they have to do. They make

1582
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 4: that one noise.

1583
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 5: And you're like, okay, maybe you get a salad instead.

1584
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 5: You know, that's all you need. I get the Keno version.

1585
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 5: You can take the bread off of their brother.

1586
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 8: Yea.

1587
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 4: Like when the waitress comes up, guys wants to dessert. Yeah,

1588
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 4: the waitresses like, do you guys want to want to

1589
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 4: me dessert? And you're like, oh, I'll see the menu.

1590
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 4: You need one person. That's like when you say that,

1591
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 4: you're like, oh no, no, nope, we're good. We don't

1592
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 4: need to thank you.

1593
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 5: Right yeah, the the table, you know.

1594
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 3: Right right right right right right.

1595
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 2: My cousin used to say, we all got if we

1596
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 2: all went out to dinner, all the guys on to

1597
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 2: dinner that there was no dessert to be had because

1598
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 2: Hemingway said, real man needs to drink his dessert. So

1599
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,799
Speaker 2: he would a boh, he would say, nobody could order dessert.

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01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 5: You have to have a drink. Lemonchellos all around, that's

1601
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 5: your dessert.

1602
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 3: Look.

1603
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 4: Alcohol never brings me the joy cake does.

1604
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 2: But okay, fellas hag it out Sports Radio, don't.

1605
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1606
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1607
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Speaker 2: here Fellas on Fox. Let me ask you, Fitzi, you

1622
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Speaker 2: had ah you wanted to talk about the Celtics for

1623
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 2: a second. I need you to lay this thing out

1624
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 2: for me.

1625
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 4: Hear me out. I was thinking about this as the

1626
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 4: Celtics hoist to the Larry ob and became champions of

1627
01:21:56,040 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 4: the world. We spent, as a collective society, not me particularly,

1628
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 4: but many people spent years saying, blow this thing up.

1629
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 4: It's not working. Tatum and Brown can't win it together.

1630
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 4: One hundred and seven games together, haven't won a championship yet.

1631
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 4: They just can't get over the hump. And what happened

1632
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 4: so often is we forget context of why they didn't

1633
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 4: get over the hump at different times. We forget what

1634
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 4: makes each run different, and all we look at is say,

1635
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 4: this isn't working. And what was amazing to me is

1636
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 4: that the Celtics shut off the noise. They didn't worry

1637
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 4: about what everybody else thought about it. There are plenty

1638
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 4: of teams that after last year's playoff run, would have

1639
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 4: fired their coach, no matter what the situation is, and

1640
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 4: plenty of teams that would have ripped their superstars apart

1641
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 4: and said we just have to try something different. And

1642
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 4: it really had me thinking about the NFL and the

1643
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 4: way we talk about currently the Buffalo Bills to Dallas Cowboys,

1644
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,560
Speaker 4: some of these teams that had been on the precipice

1645
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 4: of greatness that can't seem to get over the hump.

1646
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 4: And I find that there is some lesson in this,

1647
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 4: like change for the sake of change doesn't make you better.

1648
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 4: And as I look at what the Celtics figured out,

1649
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 4: they figured out, hey, whatever we're gonna get in return,

1650
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 4: if we decide we're gonna split Brown and Tatum up

1651
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 4: isn't gonna make us the best team and he's the

1652
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 4: best thing we can do is just keep trying to

1653
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 4: hammer through. And now that entire conversation about what they

1654
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 4: can't do and what Tatum wasn't able to accomplish all

1655
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 4: gets shut up after one massive championship, and that really

1656
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 4: as we go into this season, I think needs to

1657
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 4: be more of how we start talking about some of

1658
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 4: these teams in the NFL, like the fact that you

1659
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 4: haven't been break through the Chiefs Like, that doesn't mean

1660
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 4: you blow up the bills. It means you just got

1661
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 4: to keep hammering until you get through.

1662
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 3: I love it.

1663
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 2: I think you're spot on. I think you continue to tweak, right, Sure,

1664
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,799
Speaker 2: so you know you're always going to tweak in the NFL.

1665
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 2: But I think you're spot on. I think this rash

1666
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 2: behavior that we have, like if two or three years

1667
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 2: is a failure, blow it up and trade everybody and

1668
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: start over. We're too quick to start over. Listen, I'll

1669
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 2: give you an NBA comp like I get it. In Philadelphia,

1670
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 2: they've been calling now to trade and be start over.

1671
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 2: It's like, why would you trade and be now? Yeah,

1672
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: you're not going to get equal value. You're not gonna

1673
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 2: get anywhere close to it. You're gonna get a bunch

1674
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 2: of picks, most of which will be worthless, and you're

1675
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to get anybody. And you still

1676
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 2: have a situation now where you know, if maybe if

1677
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 2: the guy stays healthy and you actually put a guy

1678
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 2: a couple of guys around him, and you have some depth,

1679
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 2: you can win it. Or you could take a run

1680
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 2: at it, like like why are we in such a

1681
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 2: hurry to blow it up.

1682
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 4: You tweak your side dishes, not your main dish. And

1683
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 4: to me, like and look, I'm proud of the fact

1684
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 4: that when I was on radio at the time and

1685
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 4: everybody was saying, you know, blow this thing up for

1686
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 4: the Celtics, my answer was, for what you know, I'm

1687
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 4: a big believer, as you guys know. And I use

1688
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 4: the phrase too much of proof of concept, right, And

1689
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 4: so to me, what were you going to get in

1690
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 4: return for Brown or Tatum that was going to be better?

1691
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 4: And I'll use a very specific example in the NFL

1692
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 4: that I know everybody will get angry at me for.

1693
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 4: But look at Dak. And as much as everybody says

1694
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 4: Dak can't win the big one, okay, fine, like he

1695
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 4: has not yet broken through the playoffs, I acknowledge that

1696
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 4: he's also been an MVP caliber player. So the couple

1697
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 4: of things that I think are direct comps. Number one,

1698
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 4: the failures of the Cowboys before Dak was the quarterback

1699
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 4: is not Dak's problem. That's not his issue. It doesn't

1700
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 4: matter to him, like he needs to worry about the

1701
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 4: right now. He does worry about the right now. So

1702
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 4: telling me what the Cowboys having done since the mid

1703
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 4: nineties means nothing to this conversation. And then the other

1704
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 4: part of it is, Okay, so the Cowboys after this season,

1705
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 4: Let's say they have a great year from Dak, but

1706
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 4: he loses in the first round of the playoffs again,

1707
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 4: and then it's like, you know what, we're getting rid

1708
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 4: of him. We're going to go draft somebody. If I

1709
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 4: told you today that with the tenth pick in next

1710
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 4: year's draft you could draft a quarterback that would have

1711
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 4: a compara career to Dak Prescott, you'd be doing cartwheels.

1712
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 4: So like you'd be trying to replace Dak, hoping that

1713
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 4: you can get somebody that can be as good as Dak.

1714
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 4: Like we are so obsessed with well it's not working

1715
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 4: so that means you gotta change it. Or he hasn't

1716
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 4: won a Super Bowl so he sucks, and those are

1717
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 4: just incorrect narratives. There is a middle ground on all

1718
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 4: of this, and I think we just forget that. And

1719
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 4: sometimes the best thing you can do is say, Okay,

1720
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 4: maybe Dak needs more help, you know, maybe Josh Allen

1721
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 4: needs more help. Maybe maybe we got to tweak some

1722
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 4: things around him. But if you start just just willy

1723
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 4: nilly getting rid of your superstars because they haven't been

1724
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 4: able to beat Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. That's just

1725
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 4: a recipe for disaster. You know why you feel that way,

1726
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 4: right because my favorite team sucks?

1727
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 2: Yes, because you also your favorite team went through the

1728
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,560
Speaker 2: Legionnaire's disease of quarterbacks.

1729
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 4: Do I remember sitting there after the Raiders lost the

1730
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 4: Super Bowl and they had lost the Sarragusa game and

1731
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 4: the Tuckrull game. They lost all these weird ways. I

1732
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 4: remember looking at my buddy and saying, man, I'd rather

1733
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 4: not even make the playoffs than keep dealing with this

1734
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 4: every year. And then I witnessed double digit years of

1735
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 4: double digit losses consecutively, and I think, and as much

1736
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 4: as people say, well that's a loser's mentality or a

1737
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 4: battered fan mentality, now I think what I've learned, and

1738
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 4: this is one of my tenants that I believe. I

1739
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 4: don't believe that any one player should be expected to

1740
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 4: give you a championship. I believe great players should be

1741
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 4: expected to give you proximity. Are they putting you in

1742
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 4: a range where you have a shot at winning at all?

1743
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 4: And if you've got a quarterback that can put you

1744
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 4: in the chance to win it all year in and

1745
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 4: year out. I'm not talking about Trent Dilfer or Rex

1746
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 4: Skrozman that just get lucky on a team. I'm talking

1747
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 4: about if you've got a consistent quarterback that you know, Hey,

1748
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 4: we're winning our division, we're getting in the playoffs every year.

1749
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 4: We got a chance. Let's just get let's figure out

1750
01:27:58,160 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 4: how to get a little better. We got a chance.

1751
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 4: I don't think you messed with that. I think you

1752
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 4: continue to just get in the dance and then you

1753
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:04,719
Speaker 4: have a chance.

1754
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1755
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 2: I love that, I absolutely I love the proximity piece

1756
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 2: of it.

1757
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 3: And I listen, I agree with you. If I'm the Cowboys, I.

1758
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 2: Bolster what's around Dak, like get him a running game, right,

1759
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 2: instead of looking to replace Dak. I mean, listen, I mean,

1760
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 2: is he the most clutched guy in the world. No,

1761
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean that he can't break through. He's

1762
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 2: got ability. He could throw the football a fake with

1763
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 2: your thoughts.

1764
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 5: No, you're right, And I think the thing that fans

1765
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 5: get caught up in is the novelty. It's like what

1766
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 5: you don't know. You always say you'd rather dance with

1767
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 5: the devil that you know than the one that you

1768
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 5: don't until you're putting that situation, and the one that

1769
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,719
Speaker 5: you know continues to disappoint you. So if it's Dak

1770
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 5: and you're the Cowboys and you see the shiny new

1771
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 5: quarterback to why that's in the draft and you want

1772
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 5: a chance to have Oh, maybe we can trade up

1773
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 5: and get this guy and he might be better. Well

1774
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 5: he might be, or he might be a giant bust.

1775
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 5: You have no idea because I'd rather take the guy

1776
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 5: who I know. I know what Dack's flaws generally are.

1777
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 5: How can we coach around that or talent around that,

1778
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 5: put the right pieces around him, because we know he's

1779
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 5: good enough to make enough place to put us in

1780
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 5: a position to be a winning franchise. He's done it

1781
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 5: for six years now, or however long it's been. We

1782
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 5: need to make sure we give him enough help to

1783
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 5: get him over the hump. And the problem is even

1784
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 5: going back to the Celtics example that we use. So

1785
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 5: it's like, well, it's been six years, seven years, been

1786
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 5: banging out the door and these guys haven't won yet,

1787
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 5: and we have to find we have to blow it

1788
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 5: up and find something different. It's like, well, you have

1789
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 5: to give these guys time, give the front office time

1790
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 5: to put the right pieces around him. These things don't

1791
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 5: necessarily happen overnight. It'll happen overnight. If you're the Golden

1792
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 5: State Warriors and you sign Kevin Durant and you have

1793
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 5: a bunch of Hall of famers running around overnight, sure,

1794
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,440
Speaker 5: or the Heatles get together, Absolutely, that doesn't happen. Championship

1795
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 5: teams are not built that way ninety percent of the time.

1796
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 5: And so I think fans get jaded by that sort

1797
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 5: of thing and say, well, if this team get turned

1798
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 5: it around overnight, why can't we And if it's taking

1799
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 5: us five years and we have a one yet, clearly

1800
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 5: something's wrong. We have to do something different. And that's

1801
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 5: not always the case.

1802
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 4: Also, I mean Figgie and I both lived this moment

1803
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 4: as a fan. But I'll say as a Raiders fan

1804
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 4: that you know, as my age, the best quarterback I've

1805
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 4: ever seen in my lifetime for the Raiders is Rich Cannon.

1806
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 5: Correct.

1807
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 4: Now, Rich Cannon is not going to the Hall of Fame.

1808
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 4: And you know, in today's world, we would look at

1809
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 4: that era with John Gruden and Ridge Cannon and say, well,

1810
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,600
Speaker 4: the way we treated be like, oh, that's failure. They

1811
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 4: didn't win a super Bowl. The Raiders for three or

1812
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 4: four straight years were one of the best teams in

1813
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:35,560
Speaker 4: the NFL week out. I got to pull up the

1814
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 4: Power rankings every week and try and argue with the

1815
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 4: whether or not ESPN should have them number one or

1816
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 4: number two, over and over and over again. That was

1817
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 4: a really fun era of football to watch. And yeah,

1818
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 4: I didn't get a Super Bowl from it as a fan,

1819
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 4: and that's a bummer. But we treat now. If you

1820
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 4: were in the same situation today as Rich Cannon was,

1821
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 4: people be like, get rid of them. He's a bum

1822
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 4: they haven't won a super Bowl. It doesn't matter, Like

1823
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 4: I just context matters to all of this. It's the

1824
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 4: same reason I yelled at Steelers fans at one point

1825
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 4: that we're sitting there saying, well, I don't know Tomlin

1826
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 4: should be getting more super Bowls. Well he's taking on

1827
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 4: Belichick and Brady, like, let's have some understanding to what's

1828
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 4: going on. And you look at the Celtics run. If

1829
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 4: they had blown this thing up, they wouldn't have the

1830
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 4: championship they have today. So I just I think that

1831
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 4: the world of the NFL has a lot more rich

1832
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 4: cannons in it than it does Patrick Mahomes. And if

1833
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 4: you've got a rich cannon man, you keep running that back,

1834
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 4: you keep trying to figure out what to do with that. Yeah,

1835
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 4: that makes sense to me.

1836
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 5: I think there's like a lack of appreciation of just

1837
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 5: how difficult it is to be a good team. Like

1838
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 5: there's we talk about all the time. The NFL has

1839
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 5: built for everybody to be, you know, five hundred for

1840
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 5: the most part, and for the teams that get those

1841
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 5: extra four to five wins per year, it is so

1842
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 5: difficult to get to that point. And a lot of

1843
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 5: fans just don't, for whatever reason, realize that. And so

1844
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 5: if you're a Steeler fan and you're used to being

1845
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,799
Speaker 5: one of the upper eschline franchises and winning ten eleven

1846
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 5: games a year, the couple of you know, year stretch

1847
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 5: where you don't do it, it's like what hell, oh

1848
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 5: my god, we have to blow this thing up. It's like,

1849
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 5: you realize, look at Carolina, look at Arizona. I mean

1850
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,759
Speaker 5: there's perpetual losers. The Detroit Lions up until this past

1851
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 5: year are two years. I mean, you want to be

1852
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 5: in those in that position. You just don't a lot

1853
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 5: of fan bases just don't realize how good they have

1854
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 5: it and how difficult it is to win. Look at

1855
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 5: the last thirty years of Super Bowl winners. How many

1856
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 5: teams have actually won Super Bowls? Now, granted, the Patriots

1857
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 5: have won a handful, have won their their share, but

1858
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 5: not that many.

1859
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1860
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 5: Look at the NBA over the last thirty years, there's

1861
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 5: only been a handful of franchises that have actually won championships.

1862
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 5: Winning is hard, yeah, and fans just don't don't. I

1863
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:36,639
Speaker 5: think a lot of times just don't appreciate how difficult

1864
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 5: it actually is to get to that point.

1865
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 2: That's why, Yeah, and that's why I agree with that,

1866
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 2: And that's why you can't you know, you can't a coach,

1867
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 2: you know, I would lump coaches sometimes in the same thing,

1868
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 2: like you know I've been hearing now, well, Sean McDermott's

1869
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 2: got to go.

1870
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 3: I don't thinking Sean McDermott rebuilt that.

1871
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 2: Whole thing, right, and he's gotten into eight as a

1872
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 2: perennial you know, contender, Like would why would you move

1873
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 2: on from that.

1874
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 5: After making this go go on?

1875
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 3: Fits? Well?

1876
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 4: I so I watched this whole thing as part of

1877
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 4: we were getting some insight from coaches, and it was

1878
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 4: famous quotes from coaches, and one thing that Shryzhevski and

1879
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 4: Nick Saban both said in separate interviews is never worry

1880
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 4: about being the best, because if you're worried about being

1881
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 4: the best, then you're worried about things that you can't control,

1882
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 4: variables you can't control. Worry about being your best, and

1883
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 4: then trust that if you are your best consistently, it'll

1884
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 4: work out. I think that there's some wisdom to that,

1885
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 4: because you can be your best and guess what on

1886
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 4: that given Sunday, it wasn't enough, Like the ball didn't

1887
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 4: roll your way, Like better to be lucky than good.

1888
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 4: There's so many different portions of this, like Josh Allen

1889
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,879
Speaker 4: can have the game of his life and the weirdest

1890
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,120
Speaker 4: ending you'll ever see in thirteen seconds, all of a

1891
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 4: sudden he doesn't get that win over the Chiefs, and

1892
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 4: all of a sudden that becomes part of the landmark

1893
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 4: way we look at it, like, I think the problem

1894
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 4: is everybody is like, well, and then you get the

1895
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,680
Speaker 4: clapback of people that's say, well, it's a participation in society. No,

1896
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 4: it isn't like but Let's be real, Ricky, Bobby was

1897
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 4: not right if your first year last is not actually true,

1898
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 4: Like being second, third, or fourth are real things. And

1899
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 4: guess what, being second, third or fourth in the NFL

1900
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:29,919
Speaker 4: is a hell of a lot better than being thirtyeth

1901
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 4: thirty one or thirty second. I know because I watch

1902
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 4: my team consistently finish in that thirty thirty one thirty

1903
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 4: two era. I just I think that what the Bills

1904
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 4: have done beautifully with Josh Allen to this point is

1905
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 4: they've never listened to the noise. I think the Celtics

1906
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 4: did the same thing. They didn't listen to the noise.

1907
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 4: It got Boston the championship. I think more franchises should

1908
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 4: just sit back and say, hey, I'm not I'm not

1909
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 4: worried about whether or not we won the Super Bowl.

1910
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 4: I'm worried about did we do the absolute best with

1911
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 4: everything we have to make sure that we maximized every player,

1912
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 4: every coach, every down, every play over the course of

1913
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 4: the season. Worry about that stuff because you can't control

1914
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 4: whether or not that actually wins you a Super Bowl.

1915
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 8: Right.

1916
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 2: Here's the other truth too, even from the fan perspective, right,

1917
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 2: and it goes without saying that you want to win it,

1918
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 2: that you want to win it all, and you want

1919
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 2: to experience the parade. That's the uh, the obvious. But

1920
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 2: what's the next best thing. The next best thing is

1921
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 2: the longest run possible. We all want the entertainment value

1922
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 2: of the season. So if you're the Edmonton Oilers and

1923
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:41,679
Speaker 2: you go to Florida and you lose Game seven, yeah

1924
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 2: you're disappointed if you're an admitton fan, but you're also going,

1925
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 2: oh my god, that.

1926
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:48,719
Speaker 3: Was a spectacular run.

1927
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 2: We could have got swept, and we wound up pushing

1928
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 2: it with Game seven and we got to the Stanley

1929
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 2: Cup Final, and yeah, you want to hoist the cup.

1930
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 2: And I'm broken hearted for a week, but then you

1931
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 2: turn around and you go, man, that was a lot

1932
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 2: of fun.

1933
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 3: I was a blast.

1934
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 2: It was every night, every other night looking forward to

1935
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 2: a game, like there's a rhythm of a run, and

1936
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 2: whether it's the NFL and you know, you're in the

1937
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 2: know February and you get to a super Bowl, you

1938
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 2: get to a championship game.

1939
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 3: I mean, it's been a joyful season.

1940
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, and this is why. And I don't want to

1941
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 5: get too much off topic here, but this happens, especially

1942
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 5: in the NFL, when quarterbacks specifically don't win championships and

1943
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 5: we knock them down or run and say they weren't

1944
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 5: that great. Like would Dan Marino be perceived differently had

1945
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 5: he won one championship? The sad thing is yes, Like

1946
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,799
Speaker 5: I can argue right now that he's still he's probably

1947
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 5: top three of the quarterbacks of all time. But because

1948
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 5: he doesn't have a ring, people even in our industry

1949
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 5: will shout me down saying like, well, you never won, Like, well,

1950
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 5: was he his fault? He was doing for five thousand

1951
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 5: yards in an era where you can beat the hell

1952
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 5: out of receivers left and right. I mean, he did

1953
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 5: everything he could and he had the Dolphins and contention

1954
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 5: for most of his career.

1955
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 4: Like, imagine if we did the same thing in music. Yeah,

1956
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 4: think about the fact that you know some of the

1957
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,839
Speaker 4: most iconic songs of all times sweet Home Alabama, for example,

1958
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 4: that everybody knows it was not a number one I

1959
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:11,879
Speaker 4: think Sweet Home Alabama peaked at number thirteen on the charts,

1960
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 4: so it didn't go number one. So does that mean

1961
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 4: that like all the guys in that band suck? Like

1962
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 4: is that the way that works? Like if your song

1963
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 4: didn't go number one, then the drummer must suck. Like

1964
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 4: there's so many variables, and we accept variables and everything,

1965
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 4: but particular, but particularly the major sports. And when I

1966
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 4: say the major really we only have this championship or

1967
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 4: you suck and your entire career was worthless. Mentality, when

1968
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 4: it comes to the NFL and the NBA, we are

1969
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 4: far more forgiving in the other sports than we are

1970
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 4: in those two.

1971
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 2: And it's just it's it's I mean baseball.

1972
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think it gets held against guys

1973
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 5: as much in baseball because there's a level of understanding

1974
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 5: that it's an individual sport wrapped into a team sport.

1975
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 4: Same like we were talking about Edmonton with the Stanley

1976
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 4: Cup final, like hockey hockey nuts get it, Like hey man,

1977
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 4: winning the Cup is a really rare thing. I think

1978
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 4: you're allowed to have. Obviously, you're allowed to have the

1979
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 4: most joy in the world. I will never forget last

1980
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 4: year being at the parade in tears in Vegas because

1981
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 4: I never thought that my city that I grew up

1982
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 4: and would even have professional sports. Nonetheless a champion and

1983
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 4: it meant so much. Taking nothing away from the aces

1984
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 4: by the way, it meant so much to me. I

1985
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 4: will never forget that. That doesn't mean that this year

1986
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 4: wasn't also a hell of a run. Like I just

1987
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 4: think that it's all or nothing and it should be,

1988
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:31,720
Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is greatest, but this is still

1989
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:32,799
Speaker 4: pretty stinking awesome.

1990
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 2: You don't figure you brought up Dan Marino and I'm

1991
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 2: not going to tell you I know Dan intimately, but

1992
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 2: I've been around him quite a bit and I feel

1993
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 2: sorry for him. And this is why I and again

1994
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 2: this is just me, just my outward opinion. Whoever it is.

1995
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:59,719
Speaker 2: I don't think he's happy talking about football or his career,

1996
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 2: and like he never strikes me as being happy talking

1997
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 2: about because and this is my just a guess, is

1998
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 2: that people just asking the same freaking.

1999
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 3: Question over and over. Oh yeah, what's it feel like

2000
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 3: to me?

2001
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,879
Speaker 2: I have an accomplished career and never win and you know,

2002
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 2: you never wore this, you never wear that when you

2003
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 2: know it's funny because I know, and he'll joke about it.

2004
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 2: He's like, man, if I play with these roles and

2005
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 2: these receivers today, you know I drove you know whatever, right,

2006
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 2: Like I drove sixty touchdown passes and you know, whatever

2007
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 2: you know, and he would like because he had just

2008
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 2: a spectacular arm, but like he had the quickest release

2009
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 2: and he was the most accurate quarterback that you know,

2010
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 2: you go back and look, it's ridiculous, right, But I

2011
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 2: think I feel bad because I don't think he gets

2012
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 2: the law his greatness. He's every bit of Brady, Like

2013
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 2: he's a much better raw talent Brady well without question right,

2014
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 2: like you know, and yet he never had that ability,

2015
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 2: Like I'm sure it must haunt him to go sh man,

2016
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,799
Speaker 2: how come I wander you couldn't give me like played

2017
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 2: today with Belichick and his system like that, I carved

2018
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 2: it up.

2019
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, how jacked does it be?

2020
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 4: Real? And not talking about the guy at this point,

2021
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:33,879
Speaker 4: but like we sit here and say, well, Aaron Rodgers

2022
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 4: only got one? What are we doing? Like, what are

2023
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 4: we doing? Well? If he could get two, that would

2024
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 4: really cement to his legacy. Oh my god, Like he

2025
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 4: got a Super Bowl. I just it's it's wild to me,

2026
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 4: and it makes it it's such a toxic way to watch,

2027
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 4: it's a toxic way to consume. Like, look, I'll be honest,

2028
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 4: my team has stunk for most of my life, so

2029
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 4: I get it. I'm the rarity in this, but I

2030
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 4: look at it. I'm like, if you tell me that

2031
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 4: year in and year out, my beloved Raiders can win

2032
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 4: ten games and just be in the hunt, man, I'm

2033
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 4: in for that. I'm I'm in for Sundays that are

2034
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 4: meaningful all the way into December and January, where you

2035
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,720
Speaker 4: feel like, man, maybe your team can do the impossible,

2036
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 4: and like nobody even gets any stinking enjoyment out of

2037
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 4: it anymore. It's just it's wild. What's the point?

2038
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:23,600
Speaker 5: Yeah? And you know, and going and going back to

2039
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,680
Speaker 5: the football the baseball comparison. It's like Dan Marino has

2040
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 5: to wear that and get asked questions about that all

2041
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:32,640
Speaker 5: the time, and quarterbacks fair or not, always show to

2042
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 5: the burden of whether or not their teams win or not.

2043
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,679
Speaker 5: You just don't get that. Major League baseball, Ernie Banks

2044
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 5: was a phenomenal player, never made the playoffs once. If

2045
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 5: people will interview him, it's like, wow, your teams aren't

2046
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 5: very good, but man, you shure we're phenomenal. It's just

2047
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 5: a different thought. It's a different like.

2048
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 2: I like, there's talk in my city about Bryce Harper

2049
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 2: because they love Bryce. Right, It's like, oh, you gotta

2050
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 2: win one, Bryce, and it's like, what.

2051
01:41:58,920 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 5: More do you want to do?

2052
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 2: Bro, Like, well, it's my port exactly like I went

2053
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 2: on the same rail. I went on the rant talking

2054
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 2: about like dude, like what do you want? He's the

2055
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 2: most clutch player ever. If he winds up not winning

2056
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, it's not because of him, it's just because

2057
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 2: sometimes baseball can be cruel. Like last year, you're up

2058
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 2: three to two against Arizona coming back home.

2059
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, where you don't you never lose.

2060
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,760
Speaker 2: And you lose too, you lose twice, right, Like I

2061
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 2: don't know what to do. You know, that's just kind

2062
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 2: of how it goes. Sometimes we don't. We also don't

2063
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 2: throw in bad luck. Sometimes guys don't win. It's just

2064
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:47,559
Speaker 2: bad luck. Like you know that's real. Bad lock luck

2065
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:48,120
Speaker 2: is real.

2066
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:52,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, John Casey kicking the ball out of bounds. It's

2067
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 5: gonna gets the pay in the super Bowl, you know.

2068
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 2: I mean half happens, Yeah, Jigs. Where the fella is

2069
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:06,679
Speaker 2: hanging right here? Fox Sports Radio, fellas hanging on a

2070
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, Jason Fitzkevin figures, I'm Anthony Gargano.

2071
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 3: Was we hang out with you guys all right.

2072
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:20,679
Speaker 2: I'll get to some NBA stuff, some NBA free agency.

2073
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 2: We'll get into that a little bit as well. But

2074
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 2: I got the uh, the five questions for you, all right,

2075
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 2: So let me start off and we have to go

2076
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 2: and answer these. This one first, give me the players

2077
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 2: this is off of Willie Mays that you wish you

2078
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:44,679
Speaker 2: had saw. So give me two players that you wish

2079
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 2: you had saw play in their prime.

2080
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:49,559
Speaker 3: I'll start with you.

2081
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 4: Well, Willie is one of them, I think for all

2082
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 4: of us.

2083
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna take Willy off the equation because.

2084
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,559
Speaker 4: Oh you're taking Okay, okay, I'll start with I'm gonna

2085
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 4: take Baber because you know, I have it in my

2086
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 4: mind that he was just wrecked half the time when

2087
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 4: he was playing, and I just think it would have

2088
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:10,919
Speaker 4: been fun to watch that, see somebody just come up casually,

2089
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 4: look like he's, you know, not gonna be able to

2090
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 4: do anything, and then just absolutely crush the ball. So

2091
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 4: I'll give I would give that, and then I think

2092
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 4: Jackie Robinson would be the other. Just to see that

2093
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 4: moment and to see you know how historically significant that

2094
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 4: would be. That would be my my my tooth. That

2095
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 4: stand out to.

2096
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 3: Me very cool, very cool, Figie.

2097
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:34,680
Speaker 5: I hate to double up, but Jackie Robinson was at

2098
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:36,600
Speaker 5: the top of my list to excel the way that

2099
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 5: he did in the midst of everything that he was

2100
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:42,919
Speaker 5: experiencing at the time as well, just the mental aspect

2101
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 5: of it is. I mean that that's just next level toughness,

2102
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 5: all right?

2103
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 2: Could I could I throw another name on that vein

2104
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 2: at you, Yeah, and experiencing I mean, in some ways

2105
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 2: he had it on par as Jackie Robinson, and that's

2106
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:03,839
Speaker 2: Hank Aaron.

2107
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 5: Absolutely so.

2108
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:10,799
Speaker 2: I mean, so I had this great conversation with Charlie.

2109
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:13,640
Speaker 2: I've talked you about that. I had Charlie Manuel in

2110
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 2: for a couple hours and we were, you know, just

2111
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 2: kind of going through everything, and He's like he was Anthony.

2112
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 2: You had no idea what kind of hitter that Hank

2113
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 2: Aaron was, Harry, because he was a ridiculous. Not only

2114
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 2: did he have power, but he had you know, he

2115
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:35,600
Speaker 2: had just he was just an amazing hitter. Now imagine

2116
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 2: that you were about to break Babe Ruth's record, all right,

2117
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 2: as a black man in the United States. All right,

2118
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 2: Babe Ruth, who became this lovable caricature right of you know,

2119
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:58,679
Speaker 2: in an Americana and this whole thing, and it's the

2120
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 2: seventies and you're coming off of what's going on in

2121
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:05,680
Speaker 2: this country and you're about to break that record and.

2122
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 5: You're getting death threats left and right leading up to

2123
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 5: that moment about it.

2124
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:12,679
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean imagine having to deal with

2125
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 2: that sort of pressure every night, Like I I like

2126
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 2: that is, Like, that's something like that story is one

2127
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 2: of the all time amazing stories. Like we we don't

2128
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:33,240
Speaker 2: hear enough of, Like we don't celebrate Henry Aron, Like

2129
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 2: we should.

2130
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 4: Think about to how much that transcended all sports And

2131
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 4: certainly I, you know, I'm the first to as a

2132
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 4: middle aged white dude, I can't speak to it, but

2133
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 4: you have to feel like for an entire community, it

2134
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 4: felt like this was a breakthrough moment. Another breakthrough moment

2135
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 4: where I don't care what the sport is you play,

2136
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 4: but you can look at it and say, hey, if

2137
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 4: that can happen, what else can happen?

2138
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 1: You know?

2139
01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 4: And sometimes we forget that that because of the way

2140
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 4: honored society isn't because we don't take the historical context

2141
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:06,839
Speaker 4: away other societies do, like we talked about earlier, Sometimes

2142
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 4: we forget it's not that long ago that all of

2143
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 4: this was was real, you know, So it's it's just

2144
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 4: such an interesting to think about, like, you know what

2145
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:18,639
Speaker 4: our fathers lived through watching all of this and how

2146
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 4: different that experience was. It's not that long ago.

2147
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:21,559
Speaker 8: You know.

2148
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well put who is your who's your next guy?

2149
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 3: Fig?

2150
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 5: Well this is a guy you did see play, and

2151
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 5: unfortunately I wasn't able to see him play in his prime.

2152
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:35,360
Speaker 5: But I would say Doctor J. I would love to

2153
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 5: see Doctor J in his prime. I mean, you see

2154
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 5: the highlights are I don't think due justice to the

2155
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:42,600
Speaker 5: amazing player that he was back in his day in Philadelphia,

2156
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 5: and he was someone I would love to have seen

2157
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:45,719
Speaker 5: at the height of his game.

2158
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 3: So it's interesting.

2159
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 2: As great as the Doctor was for the Sixers, apparently

2160
01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:58,480
Speaker 2: now I was because I caught him like at the

2161
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 2: the end, right, yeah, middle, like the middle, like he's thirty, right,

2162
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, like whatever, you know, he was more.

2163
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 3: Of the statesman.

2164
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 2: But in this doc in the seventies, which kind of

2165
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 2: predates me a little bit, was just like that. People

2166
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 2: say that he was unbelievable because he was, you know,

2167
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 2: scoring thirty a game and grabbing you know, thirteen rebounds

2168
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 2: and blocking shots and flying through the air and there

2169
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 2: was dunks. I mean, yeah, yeah, I I you know,

2170
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 2: I I He was my favorite player growing up like that,

2171
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 2: really yeah, you know, Julie, Like my favorite players were

2172
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:45,599
Speaker 2: Julius Irving and uh And and Dan Marino and Mike Schmidt,

2173
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 2: like they were my guys like as a kid. And

2174
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 2: Doc was like was the greatest. He walked on air

2175
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:57,799
Speaker 2: like he made against the Lakers. I'll still I'll swear

2176
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 2: this is the greatest move I've ever seen. Where he

2177
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 2: goes up. He's on the right side of the basket, right,

2178
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 2: he goes up, ducks Now it feels like he's in

2179
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 2: the air for twenty seconds. He's up, he ducks under

2180
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 2: the basket and then comes in with a reverse on

2181
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 2: the left side, on the other side of the basket.

2182
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 5: It's pretty unreal.

2183
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you guys have seen that absolutely.

2184
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, rolls the ball like a little candalo

2185
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:31,440
Speaker 5: for something. Yes, it's ridiculous.

2186
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 4: Yes.

2187
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 2: And the way he walked, like you know what's funny,

2188
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 2: Like Jordan was the most explosive jumper, Like you know,

2189
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 2: Dominique was like this, but Jordan Jordan just could you know,

2190
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 2: explode into the air, almost shooting up like a rocket right.

2191
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 2: Whereas Julius Irving was someone who walked on air.

2192
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 3: It was like.

2193
01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:02,679
Speaker 2: Imagine walking on water. Walking on air is what he did.

2194
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,720
Speaker 2: And there was a glide to him. It was, uh,

2195
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:09,440
Speaker 2: he was like majestic.

2196
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:11,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, looks seem like it.

2197
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I loved him.

2198
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 4: It's funny because I hadn't thought all sports. I thought

2199
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:19,120
Speaker 4: it was just staying baseball. But it is funny as

2200
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 4: I go through this exercise in my head, there are

2201
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:25,679
Speaker 4: very few NFL players. As much as we love football

2202
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 4: on this show, there are very few NFL players from

2203
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 4: the sixties or seventies that I'm looking at saying, oh God,

2204
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 4: I would give anything to go back to watch that

2205
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 4: guy play, you know, like it's it's And some of

2206
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 4: the players that do come to mind, I was I

2207
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 4: saw play as a little kid, like I saw Walter

2208
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 4: Payton as a little kid, and Barry Sanders and Marcus

2209
01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 4: Allen and guys like that that would have stood out

2210
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 4: to me. But it is interesting to me that a

2211
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 4: sport that we're all very passionate about, I would argue

2212
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 4: many of the players today are just so much more

2213
01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 4: impressive to watch than the players were in that era

2214
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:57,679
Speaker 4: because the game has changed so much. You know what's

2215
01:50:57,720 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 4: fascinating myself going.

2216
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 2: Back it is a greatnversation. So let me throw this atu,

2217
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:09,599
Speaker 2: because by and large, I think you're right, except there's

2218
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,839
Speaker 2: a couple exceptions that I wish I could have watched

2219
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 2: Jim Brown. I wish I could have watched Jim Brown

2220
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 2: and even oj you know, I mean like that.

2221
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 3: Right, Like I mean, my god, Like you rush for

2222
01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:26,400
Speaker 3: two thousand yards on that team?

2223
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:31,759
Speaker 2: Like what's what a season? Right in an error where

2224
01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 2: everybody's playing to run. It's not like you're not. You know,

2225
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 2: you're today right where everybody's you know, if you you

2226
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 2: can break off big runs. And the other one is,

2227
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 2: I have to be honest with you, I would love

2228
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 2: to go back and watch like the nineteen seventy seven

2229
01:51:53,400 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 2: Raiders play and watch Jack Tatum and uh Stork and

2230
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 2: uh Otis is Drunk and and Atkinson and you know

2231
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 2: all those all those incredible Tatum like all those amazing

2232
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 2: watching that defense.

2233
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:17,680
Speaker 4: Steelers versus Raiders where they're like killing each other on

2234
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 4: the field.

2235
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what we haven't seen, Like that's something that

2236
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 2: went away. That plus the brutal style of defense. Yeah, right,

2237
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:30,719
Speaker 2: Like just that's funny.

2238
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 5: I would have say, like the rams of the sixties

2239
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:35,639
Speaker 5: and seventies with Deacon Jones and Merlin Olsen and those

2240
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 5: guys are especially Deacon the head slap as ferocious as

2241
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 5: he was to see him play.

2242
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny because when we think of the seventies

2243
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 4: sixties that the older eras of players we want to

2244
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:49,880
Speaker 4: go back and watch, most of them would be defensive players.

2245
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 4: And that's because that portion of the game is taken out.

2246
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:54,920
Speaker 4: Like I must remind all of you young children listening

2247
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:57,719
Speaker 4: that Madden used to open with the sequence the video

2248
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 4: game of just violent, crushing hits and that was the

2249
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 4: best part, Like, oh yeah, you wait to watch the

2250
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 4: open I Madden, Like you couldn't wait to see what

2251
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:11,680
Speaker 4: awesome hits were at the beginning of it. And now

2252
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 4: it's like, well, we don't want to celebrate that violence anymore. Concussions.

2253
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 4: So it's funny that that maybe we longed for that

2254
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:19,640
Speaker 4: from that era because it's just not a part of

2255
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:20,839
Speaker 4: the game in the same way anymore.

2256
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he there was, I mean, it

2257
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 2: was what was the one. Oh oh, you guys know

2258
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 2: where ESPN would do it. Jacked up, Une God, jacked

2259
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 2: up like that was like I love jacked up like

2260
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:40,679
Speaker 2: you know, we did.

2261
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:43,560
Speaker 3: We celebrated all that stuff.

2262
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 2: He got put that we talk about getting put to

2263
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 2: sleep and all the other stuff. Man, crazy crazy, All right,

2264
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:53,519
Speaker 2: Uh well, let's get to take quick TL. We'll come

2265
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:56,599
Speaker 2: right back where the fella is hanging right here Fox

2266
01:53:56,600 --> 01:54:02,639
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Fellas from the tie iraq dot com studios.

2267
01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 2: We're now knee deep in this discussion of players off

2268
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 2: of Willie Mays that we wish we had seen. I

2269
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:14,800
Speaker 2: should have clarified any sport like one of the one

2270
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 2: of the guys that came right to mind for me

2271
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:25,040
Speaker 2: was Wilt Chamberlain. The obvious. I mean, he just was

2272
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 2: that incredible, right, and that good and that amazing.

2273
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 5: Athlete, a dominant multi sport athlete, chan boxer, volleyball player.

2274
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 2: Like you just you know, I mean, I can only

2275
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 2: imagine when he was you know what he was like

2276
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:45,840
Speaker 2: like you know, and then talking to Mark, Mark brings

2277
01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 2: up something great, which is Ali, Like imagine, like that's a.

2278
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 5: Great one, right, like.

2279
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 3: That, I would love to see Muhammad Ali.

2280
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 2: And it's probably it's sad, like I didn't really understand

2281
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 2: it because or like I see Ali, I'm the elder

2282
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 2: statesman of our trio, and I get I get I

2283
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 2: get Ali at the end, and then you know, it

2284
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 2: was sad, right because like he he started to to

2285
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:21,440
Speaker 2: uh to you know, fall ill, and all those punches

2286
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 2: took its toll and he was hanging on. You know,

2287
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 2: I never got to really truly see the greatness of Ali,

2288
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:31,160
Speaker 2: like I just remember seeing the videos, but to can

2289
01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 2: imagine living through that and and seeing his dominance and

2290
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:36,840
Speaker 2: the big stage.

2291
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 3: I was watching.

2292
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 2: American Gangster and you know, they're like there's a scene

2293
01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 2: where they're at the Ali Fraser fight and they're like

2294
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 2: it's a who's who all And they went to an

2295
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 2: actual newscast and you know where they're as showing all

2296
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 2: the people, uh you know from all the entertainers and uh,

2297
01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 2: you know, all the other world figures like like imagine

2298
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 2: the rich tapestry that you know, like that kind of

2299
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 2: fight brought out.

2300
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 4: It makes me feel for younger people right now that

2301
01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 4: never saw Tyson in this problem because that was for

2302
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 4: me my childhood, Like you would make what they always

2303
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 4: called Tyson friends like you didn't really care about that kid,

2304
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 4: but they were getting the pay per view, so you

2305
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:22,680
Speaker 4: wanted to be friends with That.

2306
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 3: Was real.

2307
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 4: I can't imagine. I can't imagine, you know, not growing

2308
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 4: up around that. I also can't imagine what Muhammad Ali

2309
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 4: was like because that was such a different Tyson was

2310
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 4: almost like a circus show, right. You just wanted to

2311
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 4: see how fast he could knock somebody out. Muhammad Ali,

2312
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 4: you would have been watching, you know, an artist in

2313
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 4: the ring like that. Yeah, that's a that's a great call.

2314
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 5: And even before him, he doesn't get a lot of fanfare,

2315
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:51,400
Speaker 5: but even way before that was a boxer named Jack

2316
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 5: Johnson was a first black heavyweight champion and just tell

2317
01:56:56,160 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 5: about you people dealing with racism and so many different things.

2318
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 5: I mean, this was at a time you know he

2319
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 5: was he was boxing in matches where people were throwing

2320
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 5: stuff at him, calling him every name in the book,

2321
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 5: and just dominated each and every solitary fight that he

2322
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:13,760
Speaker 5: was in. It was absolutely incredible. So Jack Johnson would

2323
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:16,600
Speaker 5: have been someone just similar to the Jackie Robinson treatment

2324
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 5: that he got. It was ten times worse, I hear

2325
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 5: from when it came to Jack Johnson. But was just

2326
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:21,919
Speaker 5: as dominant.

2327
01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 2: You know that's especially back then too, where you know

2328
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 2: boxing was boxer always had a little dirtiness to it, right,

2329
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 2: but like imagine it was you know, I heard stories

2330
01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 2: I was writing this piece about organized crime and in

2331
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 2: that in the seventies, right in the late sixties, and

2332
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 2: like there's no now, Like I talked to somebody, these

2333
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 2: old Tiber guys that were involved, they had these I

2334
01:57:57,320 --> 01:58:00,400
Speaker 2: mean they controlled the fight game. So now, well, now

2335
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:03,080
Speaker 2: you imagine like a Jack Johnson come onto the scene.

2336
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:06,440
Speaker 5: And like the early nineteen hundreds, right, like god fighting.

2337
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 2: Like when we think about organized crime, it was the

2338
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 2: whole country was one big crime family.

2339
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 3: Like you know, that's really what it was. Like, you know,

2340
01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 3: it was lawlessness.

2341
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:23,480
Speaker 2: Now here's Jack Johnson. I mean that's a fact. He's

2342
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 2: a fascinating figure in history.

2343
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're trying to pay him to take dives and

2344
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:28,840
Speaker 5: he said no, and they threatened to kill him, and

2345
01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:31,760
Speaker 5: he was like bring it. He was built different.

2346
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 4: I just can't imagine it being a boxer being an

2347
01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 4: athlete in that era, talking about all of these distractions

2348
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 4: and now like they get society. Now, you know, you

2349
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:44,560
Speaker 4: got a quarterback that's going into the darkness for three

2350
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 4: days to decide if he still wants to play football.

2351
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 3: It is.

2352
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:51,680
Speaker 4: It is amazing how much more those guys had to

2353
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:53,840
Speaker 4: deal with while also like, at the end of the day,

2354
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 4: they just wanted to they just wanted to play the

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01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 4: sport they love. It's so so simple and was so

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01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:00,960
Speaker 4: difficult for them.

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Speaker 2: Very well set, man, very very well set. It's true

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Speaker 2: going into the darkness.

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Speaker 4: Guys, I don't know if I want my twenty million

2360
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 4: next year with thirty million next year, I'm want to

2361
01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:14,640
Speaker 4: go to the darkness for a few days and figure

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01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 4: it out. Like I'm just imagining inventing a time machine,

2363
01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 4: putting Aaron Rodgers in and having him look at some

2364
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:23,280
Speaker 4: of these athletes and be like, well, you know, you

2365
01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 4: think you've got it rough. I had to go into

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01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 4: the darkness for three days. So like you chose to

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01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:29,080
Speaker 4: go into a pit.

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01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:33,360
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you chose to go into a pit.

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01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:41,560
Speaker 3: That's the greatest man, is the true. It's true.

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Speaker 2: You're right man, It's bizarre. People don't have any concept

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01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:46,560
Speaker 2: of that.

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Speaker 5: Well, guys back then to a certain degree also played

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01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 5: for the love of the sport, because it sure wasn't

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01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 5: for the money.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 5: Like we mentioned, these guys had full time jobs in

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01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 5: the off season.

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Speaker 2: It was different. I mean it was different. Like you

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01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:01,840
Speaker 2: think about, you know, that sort of thing. How crazy

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Speaker 2: the whole thing was. I mean, it's pretty wild, man,

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Speaker 2: it really is. All Right, we got it, I got

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Speaker 2: We got through one question. Of course, that's how it goes.

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Speaker 2: We'll throw a couple more out there, Big Howard. Next

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Speaker 2: Last Hour Fellas on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Listen Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,

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Speaker 3: All right, We've been all over the place this morning.

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02:00:56,920 --> 02:00:59,880
Speaker 2: Uh you know, somehow found a way to weave in

2395
02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 2: everything from Willie May's to the Edmonton oilers to the

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02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 2: fashion sense of tucking in the sneakers, your sweats and

2397
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Speaker 2: the jeans and the sneakers.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we were everywhere today, guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious and I loved your take, Fitzie about really

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02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:32,960
Speaker 2: appreciating goodness, like really good and not blowing up teams

2401
02:01:33,440 --> 02:01:38,160
Speaker 2: prematurely like Dak Prescott was a perfect example using the

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02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:42,840
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics who stayed the course and resisted the temptation

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02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:47,680
Speaker 2: to break up Brown and Tatum is a great lesson

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02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:51,720
Speaker 2: in all of sports, and especially when you think about

2405
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:55,480
Speaker 2: you know what did they do? They just added They

2406
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Speaker 2: said a right, you know what, We're not gonna We're

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02:01:58,480 --> 02:02:01,760
Speaker 2: not gonna move away from these two. We're gonna add

2408
02:02:01,800 --> 02:02:04,080
Speaker 2: to them. We're gonna tweak it, We're gonna figure it out.

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02:02:04,120 --> 02:02:08,120
Speaker 2: We'll keep at it until we get it right. And

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Speaker 2: I do I think that is a tremendous lesson when

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Speaker 2: it comes to team building.

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Speaker 3: Now, the one thing I wanted to bring up to you.

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Speaker 2: Is we do you is the coach the same way

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02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:30,160
Speaker 2: as the quarterback. You brought up Aaron Rodgers and you're like, oh,

2415
02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:32,320
Speaker 2: Aroon Roys only got one Super Bowl and you're like,

2416
02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:36,520
Speaker 2: you're spot on that he should have at least had two.

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02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:41,280
Speaker 2: After they won the first time he winds up, think

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02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:45,520
Speaker 2: about this, they go fifteen to one and they lose

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02:02:45,560 --> 02:02:50,400
Speaker 2: in the first round to the Giants. Now that was

2420
02:02:50,680 --> 02:02:54,200
Speaker 2: they were asleep. I remember watching. I watched the game.

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02:02:54,440 --> 02:02:56,880
Speaker 2: In fact, Eli Manning had a hell Mary But before

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02:02:56,920 --> 02:03:01,080
Speaker 2: halftime they came in not ready to play. Was that coaching?

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02:03:01,240 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 2: Was that McCarthy, because I don't think it was Rogers?

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02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:08,520
Speaker 2: But is the coach in the quarterback equal when it

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02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:09,920
Speaker 2: comes to stay in the course.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's easier to decide to change a coach.

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02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 4: But I do think what's interesting is what you just

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02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:20,240
Speaker 4: said about coming out not motivated, right, Like, what was

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02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:22,400
Speaker 4: the argument we had on the Cowboys last year in

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02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:24,240
Speaker 4: the playoffs? They came out flat? How do they come

2431
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:26,240
Speaker 4: out flat in the playoff game? That's coaching? To me,

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02:03:26,520 --> 02:03:29,360
Speaker 4: I understand part of that. Some will say is leadership

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02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:32,440
Speaker 4: in the locker room. That's fine, But to me, that's

2434
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:35,120
Speaker 4: really coaching. You know, getting everybody right and ready for

2435
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:38,440
Speaker 4: it is falls on their shoulders. Coaches are so much

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02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:41,560
Speaker 4: easier to replace than players. I don't hate the concept

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02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:44,680
Speaker 4: of changing coaches sometimes to get a new voice in

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02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:47,640
Speaker 4: the room. But also I would argue, again as a

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02:03:47,640 --> 02:03:51,040
Speaker 4: fan of a team that has had so many coaches,

2440
02:03:51,280 --> 02:03:53,720
Speaker 4: did that even gets dangerous? So no, I do think

2441
02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:56,800
Speaker 4: that there's something too sticking to it and working through it,

2442
02:03:56,840 --> 02:04:00,520
Speaker 4: Like if you've got your guy and you've had success,

2443
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:03,800
Speaker 4: like at this point, you don't suddenly become bad at

2444
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:05,920
Speaker 4: your job. And I don't believe that there are a

2445
02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:08,440
Speaker 4: lot of coaches that simply can't get over the hump.

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02:04:08,520 --> 02:04:10,760
Speaker 4: I think there are some coaches that are better at

2447
02:04:10,760 --> 02:04:12,760
Speaker 4: bye weeks, and some coaches that are better with a

2448
02:04:12,760 --> 02:04:15,320
Speaker 4: little extra time. There are some coaches that are better.

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02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:18,040
Speaker 4: But just because there's a coach that's better, doesn't mean

2450
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:20,520
Speaker 4: that you have a coach of your favorite team that sucks.

2451
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:22,560
Speaker 4: Like that's the middle ground that's lost.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good, FIGI what do you think of that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And I think there are certain parallels you can draw,

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Speaker 5: Like I use McCarthy as an example, because there is

2456
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:33,960
Speaker 5: a couple of occasions in Green Bay where you say

2457
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:36,040
Speaker 5: that team was unprepared or there's no way they should

2458
02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:38,360
Speaker 5: have lost that game, and that carries over. It's at

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02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:40,320
Speaker 5: certain points in time with the Dallas Cowboys too, where

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02:04:40,360 --> 02:04:42,400
Speaker 5: you say, well, how did they come out flat in

2461
02:04:42,400 --> 02:04:44,400
Speaker 5: that game last year? It gets an inexperienced green Bay

2462
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:46,080
Speaker 5: team and get run off of their own field, like

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02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:48,400
Speaker 5: that doesn't make a lot of sense. I can use

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02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:52,920
Speaker 5: Doc Rivers as an example, just tactical issues oftentimes, as

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02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:55,800
Speaker 5: there are the reasons for his team's downfalls in the postseason.

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02:04:56,280 --> 02:05:00,000
Speaker 5: So there's something that yeah, and look and Clipper fans

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02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,320
Speaker 5: you know it too. So things just kind of repeat

2468
02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:04,920
Speaker 5: themselves where you say, like, you know what, we can

2469
02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:07,120
Speaker 5: change the roster, we can change the players, bring this

2470
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:10,920
Speaker 5: guy in and out. Oftentimes you notice certain patterns and say, yeah,

2471
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:13,160
Speaker 5: this coach can only get you to a certain point

2472
02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:15,280
Speaker 5: until it's time to end up making a change. Now

2473
02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:17,440
Speaker 5: if it's different reasons and we talk about you know,

2474
02:05:17,480 --> 02:05:19,960
Speaker 5: you mentioned nuance fits and talking about the Celtics, and

2475
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:22,880
Speaker 5: you can go to each individual season these last six

2476
02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 5: years and talk about why they didn't win, and it's

2477
02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:28,680
Speaker 5: probably a different reason every single solitary year. There are

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02:05:28,680 --> 02:05:31,160
Speaker 5: some situations with certain coaches where you can say, well,

2479
02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:33,560
Speaker 5: you know what, the same thing has happened three of

2480
02:05:33,600 --> 02:05:37,440
Speaker 5: the last five seasons, and the script has not necessarily

2481
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:40,080
Speaker 5: been exactly the same, but it's been pretty pretty close

2482
02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:42,680
Speaker 5: to the same situation every single time. The reason why

2483
02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:44,920
Speaker 5: we lost is we weren't prepared. At least a reason

2484
02:05:44,960 --> 02:05:47,400
Speaker 5: why we lost, is we came out flat, the same

2485
02:05:47,480 --> 02:05:50,440
Speaker 5: thing every single solitary time. I think it's easier to

2486
02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:53,640
Speaker 5: kind of draw that parallel to a coach rather than

2487
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:55,880
Speaker 5: a quarterback whose sometimes can play well, sometimes they may

2488
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:57,720
Speaker 5: not and they might lose a game. I thought he

2489
02:05:57,800 --> 02:06:00,280
Speaker 5: used this example last week talking about Peyton Manning. They

2490
02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:02,480
Speaker 5: won a super Bowl, the Indianapolis Colts stand and he

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02:06:02,560 --> 02:06:04,480
Speaker 5: had one of the worst postseason runs from a statistical

2492
02:06:04,520 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 5: standpoint that he ever had, Whereas they've had previous playoff

2493
02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:10,960
Speaker 5: situations where he played well and they lost and it

2494
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:13,320
Speaker 5: wasn't necessarily his fault. So I think it's sort of

2495
02:06:13,360 --> 02:06:15,760
Speaker 5: easier to put it on a coach, especially when you

2496
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:17,520
Speaker 5: talk about whether or not a team is prepared or

2497
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:19,480
Speaker 5: whether or not they lose games that they should win,

2498
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 5: and it's basically just based on whether or not the

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02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:24,120
Speaker 5: team was flat, or whether they were prepared, or whether

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02:06:24,160 --> 02:06:26,600
Speaker 5: they got out schemed. That all falls on coaching. So

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Speaker 5: I do think I put more of the burden on

2502
02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:31,280
Speaker 5: coaching than on players in cer certain situations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel you on that, because.

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Speaker 2: When Fitzy brought up Rogers as an example of guys

2505
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:45,360
Speaker 2: that we you know right away we don't say anything,

2506
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:48,640
Speaker 2: you know, you know type of thing.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I look at coaching.

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Speaker 2: And I go, you know how vital, how vital it is,

2510
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Speaker 2: you know how vital.

2511
02:07:01,520 --> 02:07:04,120
Speaker 3: And there are It's amazing.

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02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:08,320
Speaker 2: We were talking about JJ Reddick a lot today and

2513
02:07:08,360 --> 02:07:10,960
Speaker 2: with the Lakers have did and we talked about in

2514
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:16,120
Speaker 2: relation with Hurley, like Danny Hurley is a great coach,

2515
02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:23,040
Speaker 2: Like there's certain coaches that they're so rare. I almost

2516
02:07:23,120 --> 02:07:28,880
Speaker 2: think my quest to build obviously the players, the player,

2517
02:07:29,320 --> 02:07:30,760
Speaker 2: but you need that coach.

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02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:33,760
Speaker 3: That coach is special. Man.

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Speaker 4: I feel you and I think you're right. It's hard

2520
02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:43,640
Speaker 4: to find that coach. But we all know it's easier

2521
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:46,320
Speaker 4: to place replace one than it is to replace fifty three.

2522
02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:49,040
Speaker 4: So if I'm going to go in a direction, it's

2523
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:51,000
Speaker 4: going to be coach. But I do think, and I've

2524
02:07:51,080 --> 02:07:53,600
Speaker 4: used this with you a lot, but I'll go back

2525
02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:55,680
Speaker 4: to my eighties wrestling roots, like sometimes you just got

2526
02:07:55,720 --> 02:07:58,960
Speaker 4: a great tag team. I just think coaching quarterback together

2527
02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:02,240
Speaker 4: on the same page is an unbeatable tandem. If you've

2528
02:08:02,240 --> 02:08:04,959
Speaker 4: got a really good coach and a really good quarterback

2529
02:08:05,240 --> 02:08:07,200
Speaker 4: and they get each other and they're just on the

2530
02:08:07,240 --> 02:08:09,760
Speaker 4: same page of the identity of who they are and

2531
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:11,960
Speaker 4: how they want the football team to look. Again, we

2532
02:08:12,040 --> 02:08:14,240
Speaker 4: mentioned Rich Cannon earlier as a Raiders fan. Well, part

2533
02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:15,720
Speaker 4: of the reason that worked is because that was John

2534
02:08:15,760 --> 02:08:19,360
Speaker 4: Gruden and Rich Cannon together, Like those two personalities were

2535
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:22,600
Speaker 4: one and the same. Even if it was difficult with

2536
02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 4: each other, they gave the same vision and personality of

2537
02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:29,520
Speaker 4: a team. And I do believe that there's some level

2538
02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:32,839
Speaker 4: of greatness that comes from having Andy Reid and Patrick

2539
02:08:32,840 --> 02:08:37,920
Speaker 4: Mahomes be so close and capable of really executing the

2540
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:40,040
Speaker 4: same vision at the same time. So I don't want

2541
02:08:40,080 --> 02:08:42,040
Speaker 4: to undervalue coaches because I think if you've got the

2542
02:08:42,080 --> 02:08:45,120
Speaker 4: great coach with the right quarterback, it can be absolutely epic.

2543
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:46,080
Speaker 4: I do agree with that.

2544
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:47,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I agree with that when it comes to football,

2545
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:49,440
Speaker 5: and when it comes to basketball. First of all, we

2546
02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:51,839
Speaker 5: know that talent more often than not wins out regardless

2547
02:08:51,880 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 5: of the coach is. But I do think infrastructure more

2548
02:08:54,680 --> 02:08:57,919
Speaker 5: than anything in basketball matters. Like you know, Brad Stevens.

2549
02:08:57,920 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 5: We joked last week, you know, Bob Meyer, Sam, Brad

2550
02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:02,520
Speaker 5: Stevens should be the MVP of the NBA Finals. And

2551
02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:05,280
Speaker 5: this is no disrespect to Joe Mizzula. But I mean,

2552
02:09:05,320 --> 02:09:07,480
Speaker 5: if I'm a ducka Udoka is still the head coach,

2553
02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:09,440
Speaker 5: or if somebody else is still a head coach, do

2554
02:09:09,480 --> 02:09:11,560
Speaker 5: we have doubt that the Boston Celtics could still win

2555
02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:14,960
Speaker 5: a championship? And I think that's because of what Brad

2556
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:18,280
Speaker 5: Stevens has put together out there. Now, that's not to

2557
02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:20,520
Speaker 5: take any credit away from Missoula or any head coach,

2558
02:09:20,840 --> 02:09:23,640
Speaker 5: but I do think the Oklahoma City Thunder Mike Diagno

2559
02:09:23,680 --> 02:09:26,040
Speaker 5: has done a great job. But Sam Presty's the one

2560
02:09:26,080 --> 02:09:28,520
Speaker 5: that put that that roster together and found all the

2561
02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:30,880
Speaker 5: pieces that fit. I do think, at least when it

2562
02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:33,880
Speaker 5: comes to the NBA, I think having a strong front

2563
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:35,960
Speaker 5: office person and knowing how to put the right pieces

2564
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:39,160
Speaker 5: together is more important at times, even though more so

2565
02:09:39,200 --> 02:09:39,880
Speaker 5: than the head coach.

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Speaker 4: Didn't the Bucks tell you that when they just basically,

2567
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:46,120
Speaker 4: I mean they chucked Bud out the door, right Budenholzer

2568
02:09:46,280 --> 02:09:48,560
Speaker 4: was just like, Nope, we're good, we're gone. He's gone.

2569
02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:50,600
Speaker 4: And the rest of the league didn't turn on and say,

2570
02:09:50,600 --> 02:09:53,760
Speaker 4: oh my god, coach Buds up available not what you

2571
02:09:53,800 --> 02:09:56,560
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like, So it's funny because in

2572
02:09:56,600 --> 02:09:59,320
Speaker 4: the NFL, a Super Bowl winning head coach gets let go.

2573
02:09:59,720 --> 02:10:02,720
Speaker 4: You think that there'd be some you know, there'd be

2574
02:10:02,760 --> 02:10:07,640
Speaker 4: some level of hot hot Java opportunity, but there wasn't

2575
02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:09,320
Speaker 4: for Bud Like it took a second.

2576
02:10:09,720 --> 02:10:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, here's the one thing though, look at a

2577
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:19,400
Speaker 2: guy like Spolstra and and by in pat Riley, right.

2578
02:10:19,400 --> 02:10:21,240
Speaker 5: Had an extension of pat Riley. Not to take credit

2579
02:10:21,320 --> 02:10:22,600
Speaker 5: away from him, but yeah, right.

2580
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:24,360
Speaker 3: But you know, listen, that's part of the tree.

2581
02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:27,640
Speaker 2: You want to talk about it, but well you have Spolstra,

2582
02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:32,480
Speaker 2: like they're not the greatest talented team everything.

2583
02:10:32,760 --> 02:10:34,200
Speaker 3: He's such an elite coach.

2584
02:10:34,640 --> 02:10:39,480
Speaker 2: You're in it like all the time, right, right, And

2585
02:10:39,480 --> 02:10:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm I just stated it all the time, you know,

2586
02:10:41,840 --> 02:10:44,120
Speaker 2: I like, I'm with you, Like I think with the

2587
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:47,200
Speaker 2: NBA you can have a revolving door coaches, but I

2588
02:10:47,240 --> 02:10:50,720
Speaker 2: think there are certain coaches that are so elite, that

2589
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:53,720
Speaker 2: are so good, Like I truly believe Dami Hurley is

2590
02:10:53,760 --> 02:10:57,240
Speaker 2: that guy. Like I I think he's the best young

2591
02:10:57,400 --> 02:11:00,920
Speaker 2: coach out there by far, and I think he's got

2592
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:04,160
Speaker 2: the chance to be one of the all time epic coaches.

2593
02:11:05,120 --> 02:11:07,400
Speaker 2: And if I were the Lakers, I would have I

2594
02:11:07,400 --> 02:11:09,320
Speaker 2: would have just backed up the truck for him.

2595
02:11:09,560 --> 02:11:11,640
Speaker 5: I get you, and I do there are certain coaches,

2596
02:11:11,720 --> 02:11:14,600
Speaker 5: especially having to work in certain environments, that get the

2597
02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:17,440
Speaker 5: most out of their players. As false as that, I think,

2598
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:19,400
Speaker 5: despite the fact that he runs his players into the

2599
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:21,600
Speaker 5: ground to a certain degree, I think Tibbs is that

2600
02:11:22,280 --> 02:11:24,360
Speaker 5: uh getting getting a lot out of not having a

2601
02:11:24,360 --> 02:11:25,920
Speaker 5: lot at times with some of the teams that he's

2602
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:28,720
Speaker 5: coached throughout his years. So yeah, I'm not saying that

2603
02:11:28,760 --> 02:11:31,520
Speaker 5: coaching is not important. So I don't want to necessarily

2604
02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:32,720
Speaker 5: you know, no, No.

2605
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:35,080
Speaker 2: It's just a great it's a great it's a great

2606
02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:40,200
Speaker 2: debate as opposed to, you know, the coach to play

2607
02:11:40,280 --> 02:11:43,280
Speaker 2: like what FITZI said, to take it to the next level, Like,

2608
02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:50,720
Speaker 2: so you know, do you keep coaching quarterback together no

2609
02:11:50,800 --> 02:11:51,680
Speaker 2: matter what.

2610
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:55,440
Speaker 3: Right or do you keep like you know what, what

2611
02:11:55,520 --> 02:11:56,120
Speaker 3: do you tweak?

2612
02:11:57,200 --> 02:12:00,120
Speaker 2: Like if you're if you're looking, you know what, what

2613
02:12:00,240 --> 02:12:03,640
Speaker 2: are you making sure you're keeping? So Figgy says Brown Tatum.

2614
02:12:03,640 --> 02:12:06,160
Speaker 2: So there are two players, right, So the coach didn't

2615
02:12:06,200 --> 02:12:07,320
Speaker 2: really come into the equation.

2616
02:12:07,400 --> 02:12:08,640
Speaker 3: And you've made a great point.

2617
02:12:08,360 --> 02:12:11,400
Speaker 2: Figgy about that, Like if you can look at it

2618
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:14,400
Speaker 2: and go missoia, it was good. But it doesn't matter

2619
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:17,160
Speaker 2: who's coaching that team, they're gonna win as long as

2620
02:12:17,200 --> 02:12:25,120
Speaker 2: during halfway competent. So if you're the Cowboys, fifty's point is,

2621
02:12:25,240 --> 02:12:29,640
Speaker 2: don't run away from Zach from Dak, Right, where's McCarthy

2622
02:12:29,680 --> 02:12:29,880
Speaker 2: in this?

2623
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:36,120
Speaker 5: Well, to Fitz's point, like McCarthy's easier to replace number one.

2624
02:12:36,280 --> 02:12:38,960
Speaker 5: And I think that there's a burden of evidence going

2625
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:41,480
Speaker 5: back to even his Green Bay days to say well,

2626
02:12:42,360 --> 02:12:45,400
Speaker 5: I mean there's a track record of his team's falling

2627
02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:48,280
Speaker 5: flat in the biggest moments. Now, grant, he won the

2628
02:12:48,280 --> 02:12:50,560
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, you give him that, but we're getting further

2629
02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:53,200
Speaker 5: and further removed from that. And there are too many

2630
02:12:53,200 --> 02:12:55,160
Speaker 5: times you mentioned the fifteen and one year in Green Bay.

2631
02:12:55,200 --> 02:12:56,760
Speaker 5: I think he had a couple of thirteen and threes

2632
02:12:56,800 --> 02:12:59,560
Speaker 5: in there. And you mentioned Aaron Rodgers, like I actually won.

2633
02:12:59,720 --> 02:13:01,640
Speaker 5: I think it was during the pandemic. Went back and

2634
02:13:01,720 --> 02:13:04,040
Speaker 5: because none of us had anything to do and Aaron

2635
02:13:04,080 --> 02:13:06,040
Speaker 5: Rodgers got so much incoming, there was a debate about

2636
02:13:06,080 --> 02:13:08,400
Speaker 5: how great of a quarterback he is or isn't. I

2637
02:13:08,440 --> 02:13:10,680
Speaker 5: went back and watched all the playoff games that he played,

2638
02:13:11,040 --> 02:13:13,600
Speaker 5: and by my tally, there was two playoff games that

2639
02:13:13,640 --> 02:13:15,560
Speaker 5: I can say Aaron Rodgers didn't play well enough for

2640
02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:17,880
Speaker 5: them to win, and all the playoff losses that Green

2641
02:13:17,920 --> 02:13:20,280
Speaker 5: Bay had, Aaron Rodgers played well enough for them to win,

2642
02:13:20,360 --> 02:13:22,160
Speaker 5: and it was another reason as to why they didn't.

2643
02:13:22,680 --> 02:13:25,680
Speaker 5: But this is where context gets lost. Aaron Rodgers didn't win.

2644
02:13:25,720 --> 02:13:28,320
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers only won one Super Bowl and he gets

2645
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:31,400
Speaker 5: saddled with that and for whatever reason. Now, Mike McCarthy

2646
02:13:31,400 --> 02:13:33,280
Speaker 5: had to pay for it eventually with his job in

2647
02:13:33,280 --> 02:13:36,680
Speaker 5: Green Bay. But he resurfaced right away with the Dallas Cowboys,

2648
02:13:36,760 --> 02:13:40,160
Speaker 5: and a lot of the same flaws that were adamant

2649
02:13:40,640 --> 02:13:44,040
Speaker 5: in Green Bay show up again with the Dallas Cowboys.

2650
02:13:44,600 --> 02:13:47,240
Speaker 4: So the question, too is like what's holding you back?

2651
02:13:47,640 --> 02:13:47,800
Speaker 3: Now?

2652
02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:50,480
Speaker 4: You gotta be able to be painfully honest in that answer.

2653
02:13:50,600 --> 02:13:52,640
Speaker 4: Like if you're the Celtics, you looked at it and said,

2654
02:13:52,680 --> 02:13:55,480
Speaker 4: what's holding us back? I don't think you necessarily, even

2655
02:13:55,480 --> 02:13:57,360
Speaker 4: if you believe that what was holding you back was

2656
02:13:57,360 --> 02:14:00,200
Speaker 4: that Tatum wasn't quite big enough in big games. Well,

2657
02:14:00,360 --> 02:14:03,480
Speaker 4: you're not getting rid of somebody of his caliber for that.

2658
02:14:03,760 --> 02:14:05,400
Speaker 4: You're trying to figure out a way to work through it.

2659
02:14:05,440 --> 02:14:07,480
Speaker 4: How do we make him better if you're the Cowboys

2660
02:14:07,520 --> 02:14:09,520
Speaker 4: and you say, well, what's holding us back? Last year?

2661
02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:12,040
Speaker 4: Certainly was coming out flat in a playoff game, and

2662
02:14:12,480 --> 02:14:15,040
Speaker 4: Dak was part of that. But the entire team came

2663
02:14:15,080 --> 02:14:17,520
Speaker 4: out flat. So you know, I'm not going to hold

2664
02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:20,200
Speaker 4: back to a different standard than you know, Parsons, for example,

2665
02:14:20,360 --> 02:14:22,720
Speaker 4: the entire team came out flat. If the entire team

2666
02:14:22,760 --> 02:14:24,480
Speaker 4: comes out flat, then I'm gonna look at it and say, well,

2667
02:14:24,480 --> 02:14:27,520
Speaker 4: it's probably the coaching staff that held us back a

2668
02:14:27,560 --> 02:14:29,400
Speaker 4: little bit because they weren't able to motivate.

2669
02:14:29,440 --> 02:14:32,080
Speaker 3: But so real quick, let me just interject one thing.

2670
02:14:32,600 --> 02:14:35,640
Speaker 2: We'll go back two years ago against San Francisco when

2671
02:14:35,680 --> 02:14:39,880
Speaker 2: the Cowboys should have won on the road. If Dak

2672
02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:43,360
Speaker 2: plays any kind of quarterback, they win the game.

2673
02:14:43,480 --> 02:14:45,480
Speaker 3: And he came up short, mean.

2674
02:14:46,280 --> 02:14:50,160
Speaker 4: Badly, And in that situation, you look at and say,

2675
02:14:50,200 --> 02:14:51,920
Speaker 4: in my mind, all right, what's holding us back? Dak

2676
02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:54,200
Speaker 4: played poorly? How do we make that better? Then that's

2677
02:14:54,200 --> 02:14:56,600
Speaker 4: why they fire the offensive coordinator and they do all that,

2678
02:14:56,680 --> 02:14:58,840
Speaker 4: you know, and so they turn around they fired Kellen

2679
02:14:58,880 --> 02:15:01,280
Speaker 4: Moore and McCarthy takes more of a hand in it. Well,

2680
02:15:01,280 --> 02:15:04,320
Speaker 4: then they have a big regular season and you know

2681
02:15:04,480 --> 02:15:07,120
Speaker 4: Dak is an MVP candidate and that doesn't happen in

2682
02:15:07,120 --> 02:15:08,600
Speaker 4: the playoffs, and then you look at it and say, well,

2683
02:15:08,640 --> 02:15:11,800
Speaker 4: what's holding us back? Last year, this past playoff? It

2684
02:15:11,840 --> 02:15:15,800
Speaker 4: was motivation, But frankly I would keep running it. Like, look,

2685
02:15:16,880 --> 02:15:18,640
Speaker 4: it's hard to say how it's all going to go down.

2686
02:15:18,720 --> 02:15:20,800
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, if the Cowboys win thirteen games this

2687
02:15:20,880 --> 02:15:23,560
Speaker 4: year and they lose in the second round of the playoffs,

2688
02:15:23,600 --> 02:15:25,560
Speaker 4: they lose in the first round of the playoffs, weird,

2689
02:15:25,560 --> 02:15:27,440
Speaker 4: Hail Mary, they lose in the first round of the playoffs,

2690
02:15:27,640 --> 02:15:30,440
Speaker 4: I'm bringing them both back, Like I have to have

2691
02:15:30,880 --> 02:15:33,800
Speaker 4: some reason to believe that I'm making a change that

2692
02:15:34,040 --> 02:15:37,400
Speaker 4: actually like, Okay, I know I'm making this change because

2693
02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:39,520
Speaker 4: it's going to get more out of this one player.

2694
02:15:39,760 --> 02:15:42,280
Speaker 4: And if it's all just well it might this isn't working,

2695
02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:44,920
Speaker 4: so I need something that does. That just feels really

2696
02:15:44,920 --> 02:15:45,760
Speaker 4: willy nilly to me.

2697
02:15:45,840 --> 02:15:47,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, And see that's the thing. The people that want

2698
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:49,560
Speaker 5: to make a change just for the sake of making well,

2699
02:15:49,600 --> 02:15:51,960
Speaker 5: it's not working. Let's throw something against the wall and

2700
02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:54,280
Speaker 5: see if it were no. If you're Dallas and you

2701
02:15:54,280 --> 02:15:56,960
Speaker 5: wanted to make a change, if you're going to fire McCarthy,

2702
02:15:57,200 --> 02:15:59,400
Speaker 5: who's been good. I know I've kind of ripped him

2703
02:15:59,400 --> 02:16:01,440
Speaker 5: a little bit in quid, but he's been a good

2704
02:16:01,480 --> 02:16:03,880
Speaker 5: head coach. He's just had some shortcomings. If you're going

2705
02:16:03,920 --> 02:16:06,960
Speaker 5: after Jim Harball, okay, get rid of them. If you're

2706
02:16:07,000 --> 02:16:08,840
Speaker 5: going big game hunting at that point in time, I

2707
02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:10,600
Speaker 5: certainly understand it. But if you're going to fire Mike

2708
02:16:10,680 --> 02:16:13,600
Speaker 5: McCarthy and hire some hotshot assistant that's never been a

2709
02:16:13,600 --> 02:16:16,240
Speaker 5: head coach before, well, this goes back to the devil

2710
02:16:16,280 --> 02:16:17,880
Speaker 5: that you know than the one that you don't. This

2711
02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:21,240
Speaker 5: the hotshot assistant could end up being the next Sean McVay,

2712
02:16:21,760 --> 02:16:23,320
Speaker 5: or it can end up flaming out and being a

2713
02:16:23,400 --> 02:16:26,040
Speaker 5: terrible head coach and just be basically a play caller.

2714
02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:29,160
Speaker 5: Those are the things that you have to gauge. So, yes,

2715
02:16:29,280 --> 02:16:30,360
Speaker 5: that's what you fit.

2716
02:16:30,880 --> 02:16:33,080
Speaker 4: That's why I figure, when can people get saying one

2717
02:16:33,120 --> 02:16:35,560
Speaker 4: hundred and seven playoff games for Brown and Tatum it's

2718
02:16:35,640 --> 02:16:38,760
Speaker 4: just not working. Well, that's not enough context, right, because

2719
02:16:38,760 --> 02:16:42,520
Speaker 4: every one of those playoffs runs didn't end the same way.

2720
02:16:42,680 --> 02:16:45,160
Speaker 4: They weren't against the same type of opponents. There wasn't

2721
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:48,440
Speaker 4: one common thread of a problem. It was like little

2722
02:16:48,480 --> 02:16:51,080
Speaker 4: things that's stacked up death by a thousand cuts, right,

2723
02:16:51,120 --> 02:16:53,160
Speaker 4: So that's why I think it's so important to have

2724
02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:54,400
Speaker 4: the context portion of it.

2725
02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the conversation because it goes to the

2726
02:17:00,440 --> 02:17:04,520
Speaker 2: hard a team building, right and kind of where you

2727
02:17:04,640 --> 02:17:08,680
Speaker 2: need to be in relation to the stars via the

2728
02:17:08,720 --> 02:17:12,240
Speaker 2: coach and really what's around them.

2729
02:17:12,600 --> 02:17:15,640
Speaker 4: It's also just it's just real quick. I'll say this too.

2730
02:17:16,200 --> 02:17:20,000
Speaker 4: The other portion of the cycle is now I need

2731
02:17:20,200 --> 02:17:22,720
Speaker 4: this owner that was part of the I don't care

2732
02:17:22,720 --> 02:17:24,200
Speaker 4: what team we're talking about. The owner's part of the

2733
02:17:24,280 --> 02:17:27,520
Speaker 4: hiring process. Usually I need this owner that made all

2734
02:17:27,560 --> 02:17:29,680
Speaker 4: the wrong decisions to now make all the right ones.

2735
02:17:31,360 --> 02:17:33,120
Speaker 4: That's the other part of it. So you want to

2736
02:17:33,120 --> 02:17:36,080
Speaker 4: make change, but the ultimately the final person making the

2737
02:17:36,120 --> 02:17:38,520
Speaker 4: call was the same person that made all these other calls.

2738
02:17:38,560 --> 02:17:40,560
Speaker 4: So this is going to work out different. Like, if

2739
02:17:40,560 --> 02:17:42,760
Speaker 4: all you ever do is rate and date crazy girls,

2740
02:17:42,840 --> 02:17:44,800
Speaker 4: guess what, You're probably going to keep dating crazy girls.

2741
02:17:44,879 --> 02:17:46,720
Speaker 4: If all you ever do is hire the wrong person,

2742
02:17:46,920 --> 02:17:48,879
Speaker 4: you're probably going to hire the wrong person.

2743
02:17:49,959 --> 02:17:52,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're not going to have a moment of enlightenment crazy.

2744
02:17:53,800 --> 02:17:57,840
Speaker 5: It almost never happens. Jerry had it briefly when he

2745
02:17:57,920 --> 02:18:01,280
Speaker 5: hied parcels, and shockingly it's things turned around after a

2746
02:18:01,400 --> 02:18:04,480
Speaker 5: decade of futility. You know, but any want to ride

2747
02:18:04,520 --> 02:18:05,440
Speaker 5: back to his old ways.

2748
02:18:05,879 --> 02:18:08,440
Speaker 4: We've all got a friend that only dates crazy girls,

2749
02:18:08,480 --> 02:18:10,920
Speaker 4: and maybe one day they calm down, but it's rarely

2750
02:18:10,959 --> 02:18:13,840
Speaker 4: because they suddenly started dating somebody that wasn't crazy, Like

2751
02:18:13,920 --> 02:18:16,040
Speaker 4: they just dated somebody that was crazy and they broke through.

2752
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:19,160
Speaker 4: But like, look crazy that you gotta break the breakthrough sometimes.

2753
02:18:19,160 --> 02:18:21,400
Speaker 4: But now nobody ever stops dating crazy And these owners

2754
02:18:21,440 --> 02:18:24,200
Speaker 4: that hire terrible people are not going to stop hiring

2755
02:18:24,280 --> 02:18:24,959
Speaker 4: terrible people.

2756
02:18:26,400 --> 02:18:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what, and that and that is

2757
02:18:30,720 --> 02:18:33,880
Speaker 2: such a lesson, right, that is such a lesson. And

2758
02:18:34,560 --> 02:18:39,520
Speaker 2: it goes back to you know, it's interesting, like think

2759
02:18:39,560 --> 02:18:44,080
Speaker 2: about Atlanta for a second and the Falcons and they

2760
02:18:44,320 --> 02:18:50,320
Speaker 2: Belichick is sitting there and they passed him off. Now

2761
02:18:50,520 --> 02:18:52,879
Speaker 2: time will tell whether or not that was smart or not.

2762
02:18:53,959 --> 02:18:56,520
Speaker 2: And as Belichick runs around when.

2763
02:18:56,480 --> 02:19:01,560
Speaker 5: It's with this girl, that's a whole nother story. Can

2764
02:19:01,840 --> 02:19:02,760
Speaker 5: be another radio show.

2765
02:19:03,280 --> 02:19:07,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, wait, dude, I just got I just

2766
02:19:07,320 --> 02:19:09,440
Speaker 2: kind of digressed for one second. All right, here we

2767
02:19:09,520 --> 02:19:17,080
Speaker 2: go the picture him leaving oh yeah, right, shirtless jested

2768
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:22,080
Speaker 2: is one of the old times. Like here's this dude

2769
02:19:22,680 --> 02:19:28,000
Speaker 2: who like never spoke, was you know, the operator in

2770
02:19:28,160 --> 02:19:35,520
Speaker 2: the cloak of of He was like this, you know, emperor.

2771
02:19:36,280 --> 02:19:38,520
Speaker 3: Uh. Just completely bizarre.

2772
02:19:38,879 --> 02:19:41,120
Speaker 2: And now he's running around with a twenty four year

2773
02:19:41,120 --> 02:19:45,320
Speaker 2: old uh doing the walk of shame, shirtless, trying to

2774
02:19:45,400 --> 02:19:50,080
Speaker 2: run out of a house. Like it's so crazy. It's bizarre.

2775
02:19:50,560 --> 02:19:54,920
Speaker 2: Life is so nuts. Like, you know, imagine Tom Lantry

2776
02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:55,360
Speaker 2: doing that.

2777
02:19:57,800 --> 02:19:59,920
Speaker 4: I kind of love it, though, I just kind of love'

2778
02:20:00,120 --> 02:20:00,680
Speaker 4: I do too.

2779
02:20:00,800 --> 02:20:03,800
Speaker 3: I have I freaking love it. I do. I agree

2780
02:20:03,840 --> 02:20:04,080
Speaker 3: with you.

2781
02:20:04,720 --> 02:20:06,760
Speaker 5: Well, By the way, who knows what the coaches did

2782
02:20:06,760 --> 02:20:08,480
Speaker 5: and people did and didn't do. Back in the day,

2783
02:20:08,480 --> 02:20:10,400
Speaker 5: you didn't have the twenty four hour news cycle like

2784
02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:12,640
Speaker 5: we have now when people camped out with cameras left

2785
02:20:12,680 --> 02:20:15,680
Speaker 5: and right. But I highly doubt that Tom Landry was

2786
02:20:15,720 --> 02:20:17,160
Speaker 5: doing that. I'll be I'll just put it that way.

2787
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:21,400
Speaker 5: What to your point fits? This is amazing. This is

2788
02:20:21,640 --> 02:20:23,280
Speaker 5: this is the Hard Knocks that I want. I want

2789
02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:25,520
Speaker 5: this reality show. I can care that's what's happening in

2790
02:20:25,520 --> 02:20:29,039
Speaker 5: the training camp. Hard Knocks with Bill Belichick post post

2791
02:20:29,120 --> 02:20:30,560
Speaker 5: coaching career that's what I want to see.

2792
02:20:30,640 --> 02:20:34,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god, she just I mean, honestly,

2793
02:20:35,400 --> 02:20:36,840
Speaker 2: it's freaking hysterical.

2794
02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:40,960
Speaker 3: It really is. I mean that was that story is unbelievable.

2795
02:20:41,400 --> 02:20:42,640
Speaker 3: It really, it truly is.

2796
02:20:42,680 --> 02:20:45,200
Speaker 2: All Right, we gotta take quick time out where the

2797
02:20:45,240 --> 02:20:47,119
Speaker 2: fellas hanging out right here?

2798
02:20:48,040 --> 02:20:54,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, how about a writing an autogram in

2799
02:20:54,200 --> 02:20:54,720
Speaker 3: his book?

2800
02:20:56,600 --> 02:20:58,520
Speaker 4: Did you sign that deductive logic? Tap?

2801
02:21:01,360 --> 02:21:02,880
Speaker 3: He lit's on the super Bowl.

2802
02:21:04,160 --> 02:21:06,320
Speaker 5: That's a flex though, I'll give him that.

2803
02:21:06,320 --> 02:21:07,600
Speaker 3: That's a hell FLEs shot.

2804
02:21:07,840 --> 02:21:08,920
Speaker 4: That is great.

2805
02:21:09,360 --> 02:21:15,039
Speaker 3: Oh that's fabulous. How come heav and Brady didn't get

2806
02:21:15,040 --> 02:21:17,600
Speaker 3: a little better? I don't know, right, man, I don't

2807
02:21:17,680 --> 02:21:18,000
Speaker 3: get it.

2808
02:21:18,879 --> 02:21:29,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, right here, fellas old Fox Fellas. Oh man,

2809
02:21:29,360 --> 02:21:35,840
Speaker 2: I love hanging out with you, guys. We're lying from

2810
02:21:35,840 --> 02:21:40,080
Speaker 2: the ty rack dot com. Studios don't work, don't forget.

2811
02:21:40,560 --> 02:21:44,280
Speaker 2: Shortly after this show the podcast goes up, and uh

2812
02:21:44,480 --> 02:21:48,280
Speaker 2: make sure you download it, watch it, listen to it

2813
02:21:48,440 --> 02:21:50,480
Speaker 2: through the whole thing. Man, it's a lot of fun.

2814
02:21:51,160 --> 02:21:53,360
Speaker 2: If you missed any portion of the show, just search

2815
02:21:53,400 --> 02:21:57,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio wherever you get podcasts. You're gonna love it. Uh,

2816
02:21:58,280 --> 02:21:59,480
Speaker 2: you want to go us down to take a look

2817
02:21:59,520 --> 02:22:03,760
Speaker 2: at the words through a betting lens. We have our man,

2818
02:22:03,800 --> 02:22:06,520
Speaker 2: the brain, Brad Feinberg Brain.

2819
02:22:06,600 --> 02:22:08,640
Speaker 5: Good morning, Good morning, buddy.

2820
02:22:08,640 --> 02:22:09,440
Speaker 8: How are you today?

2821
02:22:09,640 --> 02:22:11,119
Speaker 3: Good interest?

2822
02:22:11,160 --> 02:22:14,400
Speaker 2: A Uh that we call you the brain and uh

2823
02:22:14,440 --> 02:22:16,320
Speaker 2: we just got done talking about Belichick.

2824
02:22:20,160 --> 02:22:21,320
Speaker 8: But who he get you right now?

2825
02:22:21,360 --> 02:22:23,720
Speaker 5: I can't argue that, well, that's the boy.

2826
02:22:24,560 --> 02:22:27,039
Speaker 4: But like mom, you know, if they're if they're in

2827
02:22:27,120 --> 02:22:29,760
Speaker 4: love and they're happy, I just want I want I

2828
02:22:29,800 --> 02:22:32,400
Speaker 4: want her to fix all of her dad issues in him,

2829
02:22:32,400 --> 02:22:34,200
Speaker 4: to get out of his system, whatever he has. But

2830
02:22:34,520 --> 02:22:36,959
Speaker 4: either way, I'm just happy for them. They look so

2831
02:22:37,040 --> 02:22:37,720
Speaker 4: happy together.

2832
02:22:38,760 --> 02:22:41,040
Speaker 8: You know what, Listen, I'm being honest, like all kind

2833
02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:44,200
Speaker 8: of fun the guys in his seventies, he's lived his life.

2834
02:22:44,200 --> 02:22:46,040
Speaker 8: You know, what's what's wrong with it? If he wants

2835
02:22:46,040 --> 02:22:48,040
Speaker 8: say that's what he's having fun with, I don't. I

2836
02:22:48,080 --> 02:22:50,240
Speaker 8: really truly don't make fun of it. I mean, you

2837
02:22:50,240 --> 02:22:52,440
Speaker 8: know he should. He's accomplished what he wants to all

2838
02:22:52,440 --> 02:22:55,240
Speaker 8: complish her life, and it's it's having enjoying himself having fun.

2839
02:22:55,480 --> 02:22:59,279
Speaker 8: I say good for him. I mean that I would agree.

2840
02:22:58,959 --> 02:23:01,440
Speaker 4: On that all counts. My only question is what's it

2841
02:23:01,560 --> 02:23:03,360
Speaker 4: like the first time he goes home and meets her dad,

2842
02:23:03,640 --> 02:23:06,640
Speaker 4: who's gotta be older than And then it's also like,

2843
02:23:06,920 --> 02:23:09,320
Speaker 4: oh my god, you're Bill Belichick, Like that's just gotta

2844
02:23:09,720 --> 02:23:13,600
Speaker 4: that's gotta be a wild meeting. Yeah, I got it.

2845
02:23:14,760 --> 02:23:19,680
Speaker 2: I don't care. I mean, I'll be that was you know,

2846
02:23:19,800 --> 02:23:23,800
Speaker 2: you imagine that your daughter, right, and some dude who's

2847
02:23:23,800 --> 02:23:26,640
Speaker 2: thirty years older than you comes knock on the door.

2848
02:23:27,160 --> 02:23:28,920
Speaker 3: I don't care. How many Super Bowls you want?

2849
02:23:28,959 --> 02:23:29,160
Speaker 2: Mother?

2850
02:23:29,320 --> 02:23:29,560
Speaker 4: Father?

2851
02:23:34,400 --> 02:23:38,359
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, that's a tough one. That's a tough one.

2852
02:23:39,000 --> 02:23:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give you that. Yeah.

2853
02:23:43,080 --> 02:23:45,039
Speaker 8: Did you see that video with him walking out of

2854
02:23:45,080 --> 02:23:45,600
Speaker 8: an apartment?

2855
02:23:46,120 --> 02:23:49,119
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, that's what we were talking.

2856
02:23:50,879 --> 02:23:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah.

2857
02:23:52,200 --> 02:23:52,879
Speaker 8: What can you say?

2858
02:23:53,680 --> 02:23:57,280
Speaker 2: Hysterical? All right, So we were talking a lot about

2859
02:23:57,400 --> 02:24:02,280
Speaker 2: Game seven. Uh man, what a night last night in Edmonton.

2860
02:24:02,879 --> 02:24:05,560
Speaker 2: Just incredible Fanner, incredible Fanner.

2861
02:24:06,400 --> 02:24:10,160
Speaker 8: It really has been. You know, it's funny this series.

2862
02:24:10,200 --> 02:24:13,000
Speaker 8: Anthey again, I I just don't ask me it would

2863
02:24:13,000 --> 02:24:14,920
Speaker 8: be it should be the premise of this series because

2864
02:24:14,920 --> 02:24:18,320
Speaker 8: before the series, we talked about it. I liked Edmonton

2865
02:24:19,080 --> 02:24:21,160
Speaker 8: before the series, and I thought that it was a

2866
02:24:21,200 --> 02:24:24,520
Speaker 8: fifty to fifty series that would probably go seven games.

2867
02:24:25,080 --> 02:24:27,240
Speaker 8: You know, didn't really have a true opinion less I

2868
02:24:27,320 --> 02:24:28,640
Speaker 8: liked them as a dog, so I thought it was

2869
02:24:28,680 --> 02:24:32,160
Speaker 8: a fifty. But then watching how the way the series started,

2870
02:24:32,560 --> 02:24:34,840
Speaker 8: but okay, it looks like, you know, obviously they're just

2871
02:24:35,000 --> 02:24:38,400
Speaker 8: they look like the better team, Edmond literally struggling to

2872
02:24:38,440 --> 02:24:42,880
Speaker 8: score a big advantage and goal for you know, the Panthers.

2873
02:24:43,080 --> 02:24:45,360
Speaker 8: And I thought, okay, you know, look, this is just

2874
02:24:45,400 --> 02:24:47,000
Speaker 8: now the better team. You know, you got to you

2875
02:24:47,000 --> 02:24:50,520
Speaker 8: gotta adjust and then cool, you know, you know, Edmonton

2876
02:24:50,720 --> 02:24:54,840
Speaker 8: is just absolutely like taking this back. And you know, look,

2877
02:24:54,920 --> 02:24:57,720
Speaker 8: Gari say, taking control of the series. Now, it's interesting,

2878
02:24:58,280 --> 02:25:01,640
Speaker 8: very interesting. Guys. All these games in Florida remind us

2879
02:25:01,640 --> 02:25:04,280
Speaker 8: like a Dour thirty five, Dour forty do forty five.

2880
02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:07,120
Speaker 8: You know what the line is for this game? What

2881
02:25:08,240 --> 02:25:12,200
Speaker 8: doar ten dollar fifteen. There's been a massive adjustment, a

2882
02:25:12,240 --> 02:25:16,600
Speaker 8: massive adjustment where they're basically saying, okay, we're chopping this

2883
02:25:16,680 --> 02:25:20,080
Speaker 8: down like thirty cents because you know, it's like you

2884
02:25:20,200 --> 02:25:21,840
Speaker 8: got to really, I mean, I think most people are

2885
02:25:21,840 --> 02:25:24,320
Speaker 8: bribing playing Edmonton. I would think just because they've won

2886
02:25:24,320 --> 02:25:27,840
Speaker 8: the last three and people think momentium and whatnot. I'm

2887
02:25:27,920 --> 02:25:32,320
Speaker 8: still and I I can't give you a good answer why.

2888
02:25:32,400 --> 02:25:34,920
Speaker 8: But I'm still gonna just lean here to Florida that

2889
02:25:34,959 --> 02:25:37,800
Speaker 8: they don't lose a four in a row and they

2890
02:25:37,879 --> 02:25:38,520
Speaker 8: find a way.

2891
02:25:39,200 --> 02:25:42,600
Speaker 3: You know what's amazing, and I'll tell you it's fifty.

2892
02:25:42,720 --> 02:25:47,039
Speaker 2: Like one of Brad's basic tenants is I'd rather be

2893
02:25:48,160 --> 02:25:52,200
Speaker 2: right than stubborn right, And I can I tell you

2894
02:25:52,280 --> 02:25:56,400
Speaker 2: as your buddy, yeah, I think you've been over the

2895
02:25:56,520 --> 02:25:57,680
Speaker 2: last three games.

2896
02:25:57,959 --> 02:25:59,760
Speaker 8: I mean, you know what, it's funny, you're right and

2897
02:25:59,760 --> 02:26:02,840
Speaker 8: that as a sports gambler, you have to actually adhere

2898
02:26:02,879 --> 02:26:05,160
Speaker 8: to that because if you just you choose to be consistent,

2899
02:26:05,200 --> 02:26:07,240
Speaker 8: I say, if you choose to be consistent and you

2900
02:26:07,360 --> 02:26:10,480
Speaker 8: just can't adjust to when it data changes, information changes. Again,

2901
02:26:10,480 --> 02:26:12,600
Speaker 8: I always say, not just a sports betting in life,

2902
02:26:12,720 --> 02:26:14,560
Speaker 8: the way you live your life, you have to deal

2903
02:26:14,600 --> 02:26:16,760
Speaker 8: when the data changes. Let me ask your question, like,

2904
02:26:16,760 --> 02:26:18,400
Speaker 8: are you going to stay married if you're a wife

2905
02:26:18,560 --> 02:26:20,440
Speaker 8: teaching you at three or sixty five days a year?

2906
02:26:20,560 --> 02:26:23,160
Speaker 8: Probably not the data changes, right, you have to be

2907
02:26:23,240 --> 02:26:26,240
Speaker 8: able to adjust. And you look, obviously the data has

2908
02:26:26,360 --> 02:26:30,680
Speaker 8: changed here, you know, in what we've seen. But in fairness, Anthony,

2909
02:26:31,040 --> 02:26:34,600
Speaker 8: let's look at it. Something else changed too. The series

2910
02:26:34,720 --> 02:26:36,959
Speaker 8: thrice changed, the game line changed. It went from one

2911
02:26:36,959 --> 02:26:39,640
Speaker 8: to forty area to minus one ten, so it did

2912
02:26:39,760 --> 02:26:42,320
Speaker 8: change thirty cents. So if it was one forty, I

2913
02:26:42,320 --> 02:26:44,960
Speaker 8: would be on the Edmonton side for sure, one hundred percent,

2914
02:26:45,280 --> 02:26:47,240
Speaker 8: because I'd be taking plus a dollar twenty area and

2915
02:26:47,240 --> 02:26:49,720
Speaker 8: I would do that. But here and I'm more of

2916
02:26:49,760 --> 02:26:52,760
Speaker 8: a it looks I thought this line should be Panthers

2917
02:26:52,840 --> 02:26:56,440
Speaker 8: minus about a dollar twenty dollars fifty dollars eighteen area.

2918
02:26:57,120 --> 02:26:59,400
Speaker 8: It's not something i'm betting. Just for the record, I'm

2919
02:26:59,440 --> 02:27:02,000
Speaker 8: not betting. I'm not leasting to my clients. But if

2920
02:27:02,000 --> 02:27:04,119
Speaker 8: you asked me if I was just offered a million

2921
02:27:04,160 --> 02:27:06,520
Speaker 8: dollars to be a hero for a day or cure cancer,

2922
02:27:06,640 --> 02:27:09,600
Speaker 8: but would I pick? I would just close my eyes

2923
02:27:09,680 --> 02:27:11,360
Speaker 8: and pick Flward in a close game.

2924
02:27:12,280 --> 02:27:12,560
Speaker 4: That's all.

2925
02:27:12,680 --> 02:27:15,120
Speaker 3: That's all fair. I got one thing and then fits

2926
02:27:15,120 --> 02:27:15,440
Speaker 3: to you go.

2927
02:27:15,600 --> 02:27:17,280
Speaker 2: But I got one thing that I gotta ask you

2928
02:27:17,600 --> 02:27:22,160
Speaker 2: because I never understood this, Like I get price betting

2929
02:27:22,320 --> 02:27:25,840
Speaker 2: price if it's you know, you're taking a shot at

2930
02:27:25,879 --> 02:27:28,400
Speaker 2: plus you know, five to one or three and a

2931
02:27:28,440 --> 02:27:31,640
Speaker 2: half to one or whatever. But anytime you're looking at

2932
02:27:31,800 --> 02:27:37,760
Speaker 2: pricing inside two dollars. I like, I don't get that.

2933
02:27:37,959 --> 02:27:41,120
Speaker 2: Like to me, it's it should be about you know, reading,

2934
02:27:41,320 --> 02:27:44,959
Speaker 2: handicapping the game, not what the price is, because the

2935
02:27:45,040 --> 02:27:45,720
Speaker 2: game itself.

2936
02:27:45,760 --> 02:27:48,880
Speaker 3: Like I saw something last night at Edmonton.

2937
02:27:50,879 --> 02:27:53,200
Speaker 2: Every Day had never lost four in a row, and

2938
02:27:53,480 --> 02:27:56,320
Speaker 2: every time they had lost three in a row, they

2939
02:27:56,360 --> 02:27:59,199
Speaker 2: came back with a wind streak of four or more.

2940
02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:02,120
Speaker 8: It's amazing, No, and it's funny, Anthony. I remember at

2941
02:28:02,120 --> 02:28:04,000
Speaker 8: the beginning if you remember the beginning of the year

2942
02:28:04,040 --> 02:28:06,360
Speaker 8: with Edmondon, the beginning of the year, I don't you

2943
02:28:06,360 --> 02:28:08,880
Speaker 8: remember this, but they started off horribly. They were like

2944
02:28:08,879 --> 02:28:12,600
Speaker 8: the favorites to win the Stanley Cup. They started off atrocious,

2945
02:28:13,320 --> 02:28:15,160
Speaker 8: fell behind. I want to say the first twenty games

2946
02:28:15,160 --> 02:28:17,279
Speaker 8: the year maybe guess I'm gonna say they were seven

2947
02:28:17,320 --> 02:28:21,920
Speaker 8: and thirteensing really poor. And they finished the last sixty

2948
02:28:21,959 --> 02:28:24,080
Speaker 8: two games a year or whatnot, more or less. It's

2949
02:28:24,120 --> 02:28:26,320
Speaker 8: the best team in hockey. And they had multiple streaks

2950
02:28:26,320 --> 02:28:28,160
Speaker 8: and they had a fifteen game winning streak or something

2951
02:28:28,200 --> 02:28:30,160
Speaker 8: like that. And this has been a team. Listen when

2952
02:28:30,160 --> 02:28:33,160
Speaker 8: they click on all cylinders. Yes, but I just listen.

2953
02:28:33,240 --> 02:28:34,800
Speaker 8: I will just say this, Anthony, And again you have

2954
02:28:34,840 --> 02:28:37,760
Speaker 8: to remember this the Panthers. This is their second straight

2955
02:28:37,800 --> 02:28:40,240
Speaker 8: Stanley Cup finals. They didn't get here by luck, they

2956
02:28:40,240 --> 02:28:43,920
Speaker 8: didn't get here by accident. This isn't a one hit wonder,

2957
02:28:43,959 --> 02:28:46,080
Speaker 8: so to speak. This is a team that has been

2958
02:28:46,120 --> 02:28:48,720
Speaker 8: here two straight years to win the toughest trophy in

2959
02:28:48,760 --> 02:28:53,160
Speaker 8: all sports. So they climbed tough mountains before. And I'm

2960
02:28:53,200 --> 02:28:56,960
Speaker 8: sure they're you know, listen, obviously it's psychologically this is

2961
02:28:57,000 --> 02:29:00,360
Speaker 8: a tough spot, a very tough spot for sure. But

2962
02:29:00,680 --> 02:29:05,440
Speaker 8: I still think that they can they can rally and

2963
02:29:05,440 --> 02:29:07,680
Speaker 8: make this. I thinks a close games, a one goal game.

2964
02:29:07,840 --> 02:29:09,200
Speaker 8: They it's made a one goal game and it's be

2965
02:29:09,200 --> 02:29:11,640
Speaker 8: an incredibly close game. And what's interesting, Anthony, is we

2966
02:29:11,800 --> 02:29:14,280
Speaker 8: me and you talk the other day. Anyone betting the

2967
02:29:14,280 --> 02:29:17,160
Speaker 8: total in the game, I would say, again, it's interesting.

2968
02:29:17,160 --> 02:29:19,960
Speaker 8: You saw last night. You see what happened. They pulled,

2969
02:29:19,959 --> 02:29:20,600
Speaker 8: They scored like.

2970
02:29:21,520 --> 02:29:24,640
Speaker 2: Yesterday that there would be and there would two empty

2971
02:29:24,680 --> 02:29:26,840
Speaker 2: that goals because you're pulling the goalie early.

2972
02:29:27,200 --> 02:29:29,160
Speaker 8: Exactly, and ess actually in a game seven, you're not,

2973
02:29:29,200 --> 02:29:31,120
Speaker 8: you know, And the totals five and a half, So

2974
02:29:31,200 --> 02:29:33,240
Speaker 8: anyone and it's just to the under. So anyone is

2975
02:29:33,520 --> 02:29:35,880
Speaker 8: looking to take the under, not saying that's not the

2976
02:29:35,959 --> 02:29:38,800
Speaker 8: quote unquote right side, especially in game seven is usually

2977
02:29:38,840 --> 02:29:42,280
Speaker 8: these games are more low scoring. For sure, history under

2978
02:29:42,560 --> 02:29:46,959
Speaker 8: traditionally cash in game sevens. But this, Anthony, this game

2979
02:29:47,000 --> 02:29:49,000
Speaker 8: could be three to one and you just nailed it,

2980
02:29:49,080 --> 02:29:51,280
Speaker 8: and there's you know, it's like there's it's you're going

2981
02:29:51,360 --> 02:29:54,039
Speaker 8: to win, and then boom, you know they're gonna it's

2982
02:29:54,040 --> 02:29:55,920
Speaker 8: for one. They're going to still keep the goal. He pulled.

2983
02:29:55,959 --> 02:29:58,000
Speaker 8: Why not? It's game seven? What do you lose? Four? One,

2984
02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:01,000
Speaker 8: five one? No one cares, right, So I would just

2985
02:30:01,040 --> 02:30:04,000
Speaker 8: say anyone who's looking at bet the under, I would

2986
02:30:04,040 --> 02:30:07,280
Speaker 8: just be careful. Maybe bet under in first period or

2987
02:30:07,280 --> 02:30:09,640
Speaker 8: do a period bet instead, like you get bet under

2988
02:30:09,800 --> 02:30:11,600
Speaker 8: one and a half in the first period Lange one forty.

2989
02:30:11,760 --> 02:30:14,840
Speaker 8: I'd rather go that route than laying under five and

2990
02:30:14,879 --> 02:30:17,440
Speaker 8: a half in the game, just because of the end

2991
02:30:17,480 --> 02:30:19,600
Speaker 8: of the game. You know what you're gonna have to

2992
02:30:19,640 --> 02:30:20,000
Speaker 8: deal with.

2993
02:30:20,760 --> 02:30:22,879
Speaker 4: Does home ice matter to you at all?

2994
02:30:23,000 --> 02:30:26,959
Speaker 8: And no, no, no, no, no no. I believe over

2995
02:30:27,000 --> 02:30:30,040
Speaker 8: the last nine years the road teams won more games

2996
02:30:30,080 --> 02:30:32,480
Speaker 8: than the home team. Okay, okay, I think it's the

2997
02:30:32,720 --> 02:30:35,720
Speaker 8: road teas actually won more games and the homeways win

2998
02:30:35,840 --> 02:30:38,000
Speaker 8: is to me zero when I was talking to Anthony

2999
02:30:38,040 --> 02:30:40,080
Speaker 8: the other day. That's the thing that's changed the most

3000
02:30:40,160 --> 02:30:43,440
Speaker 8: in hockey has been the adjustment from the lines makers.

3001
02:30:43,480 --> 02:30:45,400
Speaker 8: It used to be these fifty to fifty games, I

3002
02:30:45,400 --> 02:30:48,080
Speaker 8: mean minus one fifty home team or minus one some

3003
02:30:48,120 --> 02:30:50,240
Speaker 8: of my nice one sixty home team, plus one forty

3004
02:30:50,240 --> 02:30:52,440
Speaker 8: for the road team. I'd be taking plus one forty

3005
02:30:52,480 --> 02:30:54,560
Speaker 8: all day on games, or at least fifty to fifty,

3006
02:30:54,600 --> 02:30:56,600
Speaker 8: and I was making a lot of money doing it.

3007
02:30:56,640 --> 02:30:59,200
Speaker 8: But now these games have become much more like the

3008
02:30:59,240 --> 02:31:03,200
Speaker 8: home teams maybe minus one twenty plus one hundred. There's

3009
02:31:03,240 --> 02:31:05,920
Speaker 8: been a massive adjustment in that because they all good

3010
02:31:05,959 --> 02:31:08,640
Speaker 8: things in so, no, I don't give home mice even

3011
02:31:08,680 --> 02:31:10,880
Speaker 8: a little bit. I really don't nothing.

3012
02:31:14,760 --> 02:31:16,760
Speaker 3: All right, Baseball, what do you got for us today?

3013
02:31:18,160 --> 02:31:21,000
Speaker 8: Look interesting? Logan Gilbert? I like Logan Gilbert. Guys in

3014
02:31:21,000 --> 02:31:22,680
Speaker 8: the five inning line, you can lay a half run

3015
02:31:23,120 --> 02:31:26,200
Speaker 8: laying about a dour five dollar ten area going against

3016
02:31:26,200 --> 02:31:29,360
Speaker 8: Sean Anderson. Sean Anderson, is it? I mean you want

3017
02:31:29,400 --> 02:31:30,880
Speaker 8: to look at his stats, probably as bad as that

3018
02:31:30,959 --> 02:31:33,560
Speaker 8: as anyone in Major League Baseball. Probably won't pitch him

3019
02:31:33,560 --> 02:31:36,280
Speaker 8: any innings. But Logan Gilbert's been one of the five

3020
02:31:36,360 --> 02:31:39,800
Speaker 8: best pictures in the American League. Marlins really shouldn't score manners.

3021
02:31:39,879 --> 02:31:41,640
Speaker 8: Not a great offense. But I say the Mariners score

3022
02:31:41,760 --> 02:31:44,320
Speaker 8: two or three runs through five innings and Gilbert holds

3023
02:31:44,360 --> 02:31:46,400
Speaker 8: them the zero or one. I like the manners in

3024
02:31:46,440 --> 02:31:48,520
Speaker 8: the five inning line. I like the Phillies laying a

3025
02:31:48,600 --> 02:31:51,520
Speaker 8: run and a half day. It's my criteria, Anthony, when

3026
02:31:51,560 --> 02:31:53,600
Speaker 8: I have a dominant starter, is Zach we are his

3027
02:31:53,680 --> 02:31:56,720
Speaker 8: first day game and it's nineteen oh two. It seemed

3028
02:31:56,760 --> 02:31:58,800
Speaker 8: like his last game he got killed by the Oils.

3029
02:31:58,800 --> 02:32:00,760
Speaker 8: But Zach we were laying one and a half runs

3030
02:32:00,760 --> 02:32:04,040
Speaker 8: against Tommy Henry. I have an awful pitch on Tommy Henry.

3031
02:32:04,040 --> 02:32:05,960
Speaker 8: The Phillies, I think we'll get their six runs here.

3032
02:32:06,280 --> 02:32:07,960
Speaker 8: I think we're will hold this team the two or

3033
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:09,960
Speaker 8: left runs, laying a run and a half, laying a

3034
02:32:10,000 --> 02:32:12,360
Speaker 8: dollar ten dollars fifteen area. I think it makes a

3035
02:32:12,400 --> 02:32:13,000
Speaker 8: lot of sense.

3036
02:32:14,320 --> 02:32:17,480
Speaker 2: I like, I will say this real quick, go back

3037
02:32:17,560 --> 02:32:21,279
Speaker 2: and look at Wheeler's day night splits.

3038
02:32:24,600 --> 02:32:27,920
Speaker 8: I will do that, and you're gonna tell me that.

3039
02:32:29,360 --> 02:32:32,840
Speaker 3: Well, he's much more effective at night.

3040
02:32:33,280 --> 02:32:35,880
Speaker 8: Much more effective at night yeah.

3041
02:32:35,440 --> 02:32:36,440
Speaker 3: I listen.

3042
02:32:37,280 --> 02:32:40,360
Speaker 2: I think you should dominate this team, you know, but

3043
02:32:41,160 --> 02:32:43,000
Speaker 2: it's just something to add to your handicap.

3044
02:32:43,040 --> 02:32:43,480
Speaker 3: And that's all.

3045
02:32:43,800 --> 02:32:46,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, and I listen, I I here listen to again.

3046
02:32:46,680 --> 02:32:48,840
Speaker 8: If it's over, isn't hired for it? This keeps happening.

3047
02:32:49,200 --> 02:32:51,320
Speaker 8: I guess there's something too that it has just been

3048
02:32:51,560 --> 02:32:53,920
Speaker 8: just this year and there's not as big of a

3049
02:32:54,000 --> 02:32:56,320
Speaker 8: data size, and I will I will check that out.

3050
02:32:56,320 --> 02:32:58,959
Speaker 8: I still think we will should have a good game

3051
02:32:59,000 --> 02:33:03,720
Speaker 8: against Answer team. In my opinion, Corbyn burns guys under

3052
02:33:03,760 --> 02:33:06,680
Speaker 8: six and a half strikeouts again and I give this

3053
02:33:07,360 --> 02:33:09,800
Speaker 8: on your other show before and it's one, it's twelve

3054
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:12,760
Speaker 8: and three. This year he is just absolutely his k

3055
02:33:12,959 --> 02:33:15,879
Speaker 8: rate is plummeted. No longer. That's still been pitching great,

3056
02:33:16,120 --> 02:33:18,160
Speaker 8: but his k rate is nowhere near what it was.

3057
02:33:18,720 --> 02:33:20,160
Speaker 8: And the Answers is the hardest team in maage the

3058
02:33:20,200 --> 02:33:22,160
Speaker 8: beat for the strikeouts. Let's think about this with a

3059
02:33:22,160 --> 02:33:24,200
Speaker 8: guy who has gone under twelve to fifteen times, not

3060
02:33:24,200 --> 02:33:26,920
Speaker 8: even getting seven strikeouts, the game against the hardest team

3061
02:33:26,920 --> 02:33:29,160
Speaker 8: to strikeout. Don't need to be a genius know that

3062
02:33:29,160 --> 02:33:31,360
Speaker 8: really should be five and a half. That numbers priced

3063
02:33:31,680 --> 02:33:34,400
Speaker 8: one strikeout to buy and that one strikeout is everything,

3064
02:33:34,640 --> 02:33:38,000
Speaker 8: So give me the give me Corbin Burns under six

3065
02:33:38,040 --> 02:33:38,720
Speaker 8: and a half strikeouts.

3066
02:33:38,760 --> 02:33:40,279
Speaker 3: There, got it, buddy.

3067
02:33:40,360 --> 02:33:45,280
Speaker 2: I great stuff as always at Brad's Best Bets dot Com,

3068
02:33:45,320 --> 02:33:49,080
Speaker 2: at bradsbeest Bets dot com, and at Brad's Best Bets

3069
02:33:49,160 --> 02:33:49,959
Speaker 2: on Twitter.

3070
02:33:50,200 --> 02:33:53,000
Speaker 3: X always great buddy, Thank you.

3071
02:33:52,640 --> 02:33:55,080
Speaker 8: You're good, Chris. I'm enjoyed the games all right, but

3072
02:33:55,200 --> 02:33:56,199
Speaker 8: I'll fetch you guys next week.

3073
02:33:56,520 --> 02:33:59,160
Speaker 2: Always fun, always fun, chopping it up with the brain.

3074
02:33:59,560 --> 02:34:02,560
Speaker 2: We'll come back and wrap it up. Fella is hanging

3075
02:34:02,720 --> 02:34:11,800
Speaker 2: right here. Fox Sports Radio Fellas from the Tireac dot com.

3076
02:34:12,760 --> 02:34:14,400
Speaker 3: Studios.

3077
02:34:15,959 --> 02:34:19,519
Speaker 2: Jason fitz Kevin figures Anthony Gargano about the fun.

3078
02:34:20,800 --> 02:34:21,120
Speaker 8: It is.

3079
02:34:21,280 --> 02:34:25,840
Speaker 2: Uh, we are insconsin a heat wave, an epic heat wave.

3080
02:34:26,040 --> 02:34:28,760
Speaker 2: I think the whole country is in the heat wave.

3081
02:34:29,200 --> 02:34:34,400
Speaker 2: I'm getting ready to do a nice afternoon of tournament

3082
02:34:34,520 --> 02:34:38,600
Speaker 2: eleven U tournament baseball in this searing heat.

3083
02:34:41,720 --> 02:34:42,920
Speaker 4: That does not sound fun.

3084
02:34:44,120 --> 02:34:46,000
Speaker 5: I'm sure it's not human at all either, So.

3085
02:34:46,280 --> 02:34:58,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it feels like lows. It's horriful, but

3086
02:34:58,680 --> 02:34:59,680
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a fun one.

3087
02:35:00,160 --> 02:35:03,240
Speaker 3: A big perfect game, tourn A perfect game is like one.

3088
02:35:03,040 --> 02:35:08,320
Speaker 2: Of the best youth organizations, youth baseball organizations.

3089
02:35:08,680 --> 02:35:09,760
Speaker 3: So it's a big tournament.

3090
02:35:10,120 --> 02:35:12,920
Speaker 2: And in fact, I got this is funny, right, So

3091
02:35:12,920 --> 02:35:15,400
Speaker 2: I told you about Charlie Manuel, right, who is a

3092
02:35:15,640 --> 02:35:19,400
Speaker 2: legendary baseball guy. He managed the Indians and the Phillies

3093
02:35:19,480 --> 02:35:22,120
Speaker 2: and he's won the World Series and the whole thing.

3094
02:35:22,879 --> 02:35:26,160
Speaker 2: So he's coming to the game. I'm gonna go pick

3095
02:35:26,240 --> 02:35:29,680
Speaker 2: him up after the show and take him to the game.

3096
02:35:30,720 --> 02:35:33,400
Speaker 2: And he loves me. He's like, heynity, I want to

3097
02:35:33,400 --> 02:35:35,959
Speaker 2: see his son hit. I go, all right, I said,

3098
02:35:35,959 --> 02:35:37,440
Speaker 2: come on, we'll come to the game. Like you know,

3099
02:35:37,520 --> 02:35:39,959
Speaker 2: he because he's in town. He was in town for

3100
02:35:40,000 --> 02:35:42,640
Speaker 2: Cole Hamil's late last night. So he's gonna come and

3101
02:35:42,680 --> 02:35:49,000
Speaker 2: he's gonna sit in the dugout. So I told the

3102
02:35:49,400 --> 02:35:52,840
Speaker 2: our coach, I go, dude, I said, uh, you mind

3103
02:35:52,840 --> 02:35:54,960
Speaker 2: if Charlie shares the dugout with you.

3104
02:35:55,320 --> 02:35:58,080
Speaker 3: He's like, you're killing me, man. He's like, I gotta

3105
02:35:58,120 --> 02:35:58,400
Speaker 3: have him.

3106
02:35:58,560 --> 02:36:02,560
Speaker 2: I got one of them, the most famous Phillies managers

3107
02:36:02,720 --> 02:36:04,000
Speaker 2: and sitting in the back of me.

3108
02:36:04,120 --> 02:36:05,920
Speaker 3: Ah, there's not enough pressure on me.

3109
02:36:07,400 --> 02:36:08,080
Speaker 4: That's funny.

3110
02:36:08,480 --> 02:36:11,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's tough sledding. Charlie, just lean over and say,

3111
02:36:11,800 --> 02:36:17,360
Speaker 5: you know what I would do over there. I'm not

3112
02:36:17,400 --> 02:36:20,199
Speaker 5: telling you how to manage, but if it were.

3113
02:36:20,120 --> 02:36:23,720
Speaker 4: Me, you know, if you wanted a little help, just saying.

3114
02:36:25,040 --> 02:36:27,520
Speaker 5: You didn't ask, but but what I might do in

3115
02:36:27,560 --> 02:36:28,200
Speaker 5: this situation.

3116
02:36:28,480 --> 02:36:33,320
Speaker 3: You know, I love it. It's great. It's funny.

3117
02:36:34,480 --> 02:36:36,840
Speaker 2: That Stuff's always like fun stuff, you know what I mean,

3118
02:36:36,920 --> 02:36:39,600
Speaker 2: Like anytime you get you know that the height of

3119
02:36:39,640 --> 02:36:41,080
Speaker 2: your profession.

3120
02:36:40,560 --> 02:36:43,160
Speaker 3: And you got you know, you're with the youth.

3121
02:36:43,240 --> 02:36:45,760
Speaker 2: Stuff. It's it's good times, all right. So what's all

3122
02:36:45,800 --> 02:36:46,800
Speaker 2: tapped for the weekend?

3123
02:36:46,800 --> 02:36:48,840
Speaker 3: Fitsy? What do you got good? What do you got cooking?

3124
02:36:49,640 --> 02:36:51,039
Speaker 3: I know you got something cooking.

3125
02:36:52,240 --> 02:36:54,440
Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't like he's pretty pretty re last weekend.

3126
02:36:54,440 --> 02:36:56,959
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get to I'm just hanging back, might watch

3127
02:36:57,000 --> 02:36:59,640
Speaker 4: a little couple America, Like, I don't know, Like it's

3128
02:36:59,680 --> 02:37:01,840
Speaker 4: just it's this is one of those weekends where you

3129
02:37:01,840 --> 02:37:03,560
Speaker 4: sit around and you say, my god, how many more

3130
02:37:03,600 --> 02:37:06,160
Speaker 4: weeks until football? That's all are at this point?

3131
02:37:06,280 --> 02:37:06,480
Speaker 5: Yeah?

3132
02:37:06,640 --> 02:37:11,680
Speaker 2: Yes, it is like I find myself again and I

3133
02:37:11,959 --> 02:37:14,200
Speaker 2: like the sport. I'm not trying it again. I think

3134
02:37:14,280 --> 02:37:16,240
Speaker 2: soccer is a beautiful game. The whole thing.

3135
02:37:17,240 --> 02:37:21,160
Speaker 3: But man, you know, like it doesn't makes.

3136
02:37:20,959 --> 02:37:23,120
Speaker 2: You when you're looking, you go, all right, well, I

3137
02:37:23,160 --> 02:37:25,879
Speaker 2: got Copa America. Tell me you're not gonna And I

3138
02:37:25,920 --> 02:37:30,400
Speaker 2: wish there was like Texas AY and in Oklahoma.

3139
02:37:31,840 --> 02:37:34,280
Speaker 4: Shoot right now, I take like Texas A and M

3140
02:37:34,360 --> 02:37:38,640
Speaker 4: versus Western Kentucky Middle State University or something.

3141
02:37:38,760 --> 02:37:42,600
Speaker 5: You'll get that starts those games.

3142
02:37:42,640 --> 02:37:46,039
Speaker 4: We complain about week two, week three in college football

3143
02:37:46,080 --> 02:37:49,039
Speaker 4: every year. I'm this this. We just need to cut

3144
02:37:49,080 --> 02:37:51,240
Speaker 4: this and play it for us so that when we're

3145
02:37:51,240 --> 02:37:53,720
Speaker 4: sitting there saying why they're all these cupcakes? Cupcakes are

3146
02:37:53,760 --> 02:37:54,400
Speaker 4: better than nothing.

3147
02:37:55,200 --> 02:38:02,120
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, cupcakes are. And you're a cupcake. You always

3148
02:38:02,120 --> 02:38:02,840
Speaker 3: appreciate that.

3149
02:38:03,200 --> 02:38:06,920
Speaker 4: I do anything that has the word cake in it, cake, donuts,

3150
02:38:08,959 --> 02:38:09,840
Speaker 4: I'm in for all of it.

3151
02:38:10,640 --> 02:38:13,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna scream at my kids on National TV.

3152
02:38:13,959 --> 02:38:16,959
Speaker 2: If you can hear the ruckus in the background going

3153
02:38:17,000 --> 02:38:22,840
Speaker 2: on as they're fighting over who to walk who walks

3154
02:38:22,879 --> 02:38:28,440
Speaker 2: the dog while Daddy's on the air, that better not happened, Massimo.

3155
02:38:29,200 --> 02:38:32,640
Speaker 3: All right, is.

3156
02:38:32,600 --> 02:38:34,000
Speaker 5: Anthony's turning to walk the dog?

3157
02:38:34,080 --> 02:38:34,320
Speaker 4: Dad?

3158
02:38:34,360 --> 02:38:34,760
Speaker 3: That's all?

3159
02:38:35,640 --> 02:38:38,560
Speaker 4: Oh man, that's when you know what you're better off

3160
02:38:38,560 --> 02:38:40,199
Speaker 4: both of them walking the dogs.

3161
02:38:41,160 --> 02:38:44,840
Speaker 2: The dog, both of you help it out, now, mass

3162
02:38:45,240 --> 02:38:51,119
Speaker 2: help your brother. Oh my god, you made the right call, dude,

3163
02:38:51,560 --> 02:38:52,720
Speaker 2: You made the right call.

3164
02:38:52,800 --> 02:38:53,119
Speaker 3: Buddy.

3165
02:38:53,879 --> 02:38:59,520
Speaker 2: Uh, figure.

3166
02:38:59,480 --> 02:38:59,959
Speaker 3: You didn't.

3167
02:39:00,200 --> 02:39:02,280
Speaker 2: I'll tell you off the bad you did. As I'm

3168
02:39:02,320 --> 02:39:04,800
Speaker 2: watching the dog pee in the house.

3169
02:39:07,879 --> 02:39:09,640
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

3170
02:39:09,720 --> 02:39:11,360
Speaker 4: My brother used to always say when we would get

3171
02:39:11,360 --> 02:39:13,039
Speaker 4: into these sorts of arguments and I didn't want to

3172
02:39:13,040 --> 02:39:15,320
Speaker 4: do something, my brother would always say, Look, I'm gonna

3173
02:39:15,320 --> 02:39:17,480
Speaker 4: get in trouble either way. So the question is do

3174
02:39:17,560 --> 02:39:19,400
Speaker 4: you want to get in trouble, because look, we can

3175
02:39:19,480 --> 02:39:22,520
Speaker 4: either go down together and we're both we're just you're

3176
02:39:22,520 --> 02:39:25,160
Speaker 4: gonna get stuck doing this with me, or you're we're

3177
02:39:25,160 --> 02:39:26,960
Speaker 4: both gonna get in trouble. See, now that the dog

3178
02:39:27,040 --> 02:39:29,240
Speaker 4: is pee in the house, everybody's done. Everybody's done.

3179
02:39:29,720 --> 02:39:30,600
Speaker 3: Everybody's done.

3180
02:39:31,240 --> 02:39:34,039
Speaker 2: Like they better hope this is the longest segment of

3181
02:39:34,120 --> 02:39:39,560
Speaker 2: their lives. He cooks with daddy's, put daddy's off, the

3182
02:39:39,680 --> 02:39:41,520
Speaker 2: air heads will roll.

3183
02:39:41,600 --> 02:39:43,840
Speaker 5: Unfortunately for them, it's not gonna last much longer.

3184
02:39:45,040 --> 02:39:47,640
Speaker 4: That's even worse than just wait till your dad gets home.

3185
02:39:47,760 --> 02:39:54,760
Speaker 4: It's like just wait till your dad presses disconnected the room.

3186
02:39:57,680 --> 02:40:00,960
Speaker 2: Great exactly what do you want watching, fag, We're talking

3187
02:40:00,959 --> 02:40:01,800
Speaker 2: about what are you watching?

3188
02:40:02,240 --> 02:40:03,920
Speaker 3: Are you watching a little soccer action?

3189
02:40:04,800 --> 02:40:06,400
Speaker 5: I'll get a little bit in, to be honest with you,

3190
02:40:06,400 --> 02:40:08,080
Speaker 5: I'll probably spend some time with the family, spend some

3191
02:40:08,120 --> 02:40:09,680
Speaker 5: time with the in laws with the baby a little bit,

3192
02:40:09,720 --> 02:40:11,560
Speaker 5: you know, light, laid back a little bit, watch the movies,

3193
02:40:11,560 --> 02:40:13,520
Speaker 5: you know, something like that. Nice laid back weekend.

3194
02:40:14,000 --> 02:40:14,560
Speaker 3: Beautiful.

3195
02:40:14,920 --> 02:40:18,600
Speaker 2: All right, everybody have a great weekend. We love you, Fellasa.

3196
02:40:18,600 --> 02:40:19,320
Speaker 2: See next week.