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<v Speaker 2>Welcome in What's Right with Nick Wright Episode two forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Sun is off to quite the championship run in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four. We don't have a favorite hockey team, so

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't really count. There have been two championships decided

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<v Speaker 2>this year. One the Kansas City Chiefs who won the title,

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<v Speaker 2>my team beating your team, the Baltimore Ravens and root

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<v Speaker 2>to it. And two the Boston Celtics who won the title,

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<v Speaker 2>who beat kind of my adopted team, the Dallas Mavericks

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<v Speaker 2>in route to it. So it's been a long road

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<v Speaker 2>for you as a Celtics fan. You kind of picked

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<v Speaker 2>the worst era in Celtics history, which is a testament

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<v Speaker 2>how great their history is. To become a Celtics fan

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<v Speaker 2>because you went such a long you became a fan

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty ten, and then they won their first title

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<v Speaker 2>of your fandom this year, So I worst sounds bad,

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<v Speaker 2>but my point is they've done so much winning over

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<v Speaker 2>the years. There aren't a lot of fifteen year gaps.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty six to eight was the longest one, but you

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<v Speaker 2>were too young and weren't alive for a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we get to any of it, congratulations, it's

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<v Speaker 2>your first favorite team that's ever won a championship. How

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<v Speaker 2>to feel watching it? Not a lot of suspense in

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<v Speaker 2>the series and in the game, so I imagine it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a single U Fork moment. But you guys won.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we did win. I got my moss right, here

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<v Speaker 3>so toes to you and this wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but just take just a straight shot morning West

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<v Speaker 2>Coast time, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>So it felt great, I will say something about it

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<v Speaker 3>felt unnatural, like with how easy it was. But like

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<v Speaker 3>Tatum said, long time coming, very glad they got it done,

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<v Speaker 3>and just excited to see this team now year and

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<v Speaker 3>see what they'll be able to do. But it's a

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, no, it's amazing. But like I said, like

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<v Speaker 3>it does feel a little eerie still, like for some reason,

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<v Speaker 3>it just feels a little strange.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I understand, I relate to that. It was

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the my first team that won a championship

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<v Speaker 2>really was the Royals, and it was similar their run

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<v Speaker 2>in this regard. So the Royals the previous year went

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<v Speaker 2>seven in the World Series and had an unbelievable postseason

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<v Speaker 2>run and then lost in heartbreaking fashion. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>next year they could have easily lost the divisional round.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have easily lost the divisional round, but then

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of took care of business in the ALCS

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<v Speaker 2>against the Blue Jays, and then the World Series itself

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<v Speaker 2>was for to one over the Mets, and it felt

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<v Speaker 2>within the moment almost anti climactic. But the build up

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<v Speaker 2>over the previous years is where the real intrigue came

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<v Speaker 2>for the Celtics. It's something similar. This team has been

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<v Speaker 2>championship caliber the last three years and two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people say, you know, they've went to six

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<v Speaker 2>conference title finals in eight years, but that's seventeen and

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen teams were not championship caliber. I didn't think the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty team that lost to Miami was championship caliber. But

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two, they're up to one in the finals, look

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<v Speaker 2>like they are going to win it. Steph goes crazy

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<v Speaker 2>in that game for Draymond gets going and they lose.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year, they have it all laid out in front

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<v Speaker 2>of them, they go down three to zero in the

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<v Speaker 2>conference finals, claw all the way back for a game

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<v Speaker 2>seven and can't get it done. And in this year

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<v Speaker 2>they mow through everybody flatly. Yeah, this team went I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they went eighty and seventeen I'm sorry, eighty and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one on the year. It record wise, it's an

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<v Speaker 2>all time team, even if eye test wise, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that they're an all time team, but they did

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<v Speaker 2>have an all time season and that they were so

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<v Speaker 2>good that none of the playoff series ever felt in doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>There was never a moment of like, oh man, this

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<v Speaker 2>could go the other way. Probably the only moment that

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<v Speaker 2>there was real doubt was Game three when the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one point lead turned into a two point lead, because

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<v Speaker 2>at least to me, it felt like blowing that type

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<v Speaker 2>of game could break a team. A game where you're

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<v Speaker 2>up twenty and the fourth to essentially win the championship.

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<v Speaker 2>If you blow that, could you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Would it have snowballed? But they Luca fouls out, they

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<v Speaker 2>hold on, Jalen Brown makes the biggest shot of his

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<v Speaker 2>life to basically ice that game, and then from there

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<v Speaker 2>on it was really a matter of win and not if.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll get into all of that quickly. Here's what

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<v Speaker 2>missed the cut in today's show. The Birmingham Stallions bought

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<v Speaker 2>out the Bramas to win their third consecutive UFL or

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<v Speaker 2>USFL XFL championship. Bryson d. Chambeau wins the US Open.

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<v Speaker 2>That put a little sour taste on my father's day

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<v Speaker 2>because I had bet Rory at plus three point fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Rory had made literally four hundred and ninety six putts

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<v Speaker 2>from three foot or inside in a row, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he missed one on sixteen and then one on eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>to really gag it away for Rory to be two

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<v Speaker 2>shots up with five to play, and Bryson played the

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<v Speaker 2>final five holes one over and to win is just

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<v Speaker 2>into just unforgivable. And Jeff Van Gundy shout out to

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff van Gundy, friend of mine, great guy. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>a brutal year for him. He gets a lead assistant

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<v Speaker 2>job with Tylo and the Clippers. But the story, of

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<v Speaker 2>course is the Celtics raising banner eighteen demons take it away.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so my Celtics are obviously world champions now, just

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<v Speaker 3>won the finals last night. They finished. You already said

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<v Speaker 3>they finished their postseason eight and twenty one. But you

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<v Speaker 3>congratulated Boston last night, but kind of took a shot

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time with your tweet, which I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of got something to say towards, but I guess we'll

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<v Speaker 3>get to it later.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I did. The words are tiny, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I said, let me read the tweet. Congrats to

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<v Speaker 2>the Celtics. They were the best team all year and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't believe in them. I didn't think they had

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<v Speaker 2>the guy. Turns out they didn't have to outstanding team.

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<v Speaker 2>That is six excellent players, guys who know their roles

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<v Speaker 2>and are brilliant defend deserving champs. I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 2>taking a shot. I think that is cojin analysis.

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<v Speaker 3>But go ahead, all right, So do you think this

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be the first team to roll through

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<v Speaker 3>through the finals and through the playoffs and still get

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<v Speaker 3>crushed for it? Or do you think people will finally

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<v Speaker 3>acknowledge this team as a historic one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think that was always a straw man. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think there are no champions. There is one champion

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<v Speaker 2>in my lifetime that gets yeah butted consistently, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's because Lebron's attached to it. Other folks say no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's because of the pandemic. But the Lakers Championship gets

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<v Speaker 2>a mental asterisk folks put on it. They call it

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<v Speaker 2>the bubble Championship. That's the only one. Wilds and brew

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<v Speaker 2>Go you know, argued with me and yelled at me,

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<v Speaker 2>said no, the other one is the Rockets two championships

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<v Speaker 2>because Jordan wasn't in the league, but of course he

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<v Speaker 2>was in the league for their second championship. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't think credible. People are like, oh, a

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<v Speaker 2>team has fake championships. There are no fake championships now,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I just don't think that anyone ever was

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<v Speaker 2>going to do that. Now. If somebody tried to say

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of the hardest paths to a title ever,

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<v Speaker 2>that obviously is a different discussion and that's not accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't matter. The Celtics handled all their business

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<v Speaker 2>in the regular season on a semi historic level. We've

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<v Speaker 2>seen a lot of sixty four win teams, but you

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<v Speaker 2>added the point differential to it, it becomes semi historic.

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<v Speaker 2>They then never faced a game six in these playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>They either swept or won in five every series. That

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<v Speaker 2>is a great team and the point I was making

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<v Speaker 2>in my tweet, I think stands up the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the Celtics were able to roll through these finals despite

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<v Speaker 2>no one on their team having anything close to an

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<v Speaker 2>A plus series except for I guess you could say

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Houser in his role is a testament to how

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<v Speaker 2>deep they are. And it's not even deep like one

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<v Speaker 2>through eight, but deep one through six. How well rounded

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<v Speaker 2>they are and the Celtics, I'm gonna I'm gonna look

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<v Speaker 2>this up and Dusty you're watching, So Dusty, tell me

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<v Speaker 2>if if I have this inclination correct, at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>I would bet this was one of the Celtics in

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<v Speaker 2>the finals. I bet the points they scored over these

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<v Speaker 2>five games is maybe the fewest points they scored over

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<v Speaker 2>any five game stretch all year. I bet that, and

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<v Speaker 2>they won in dominating fashion. So why because this team

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<v Speaker 2>was so dialed defensively, and aside from five minutes of

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<v Speaker 2>Game three and the entirety of Game four, essentially they

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<v Speaker 2>were so dominant defensively. When they were keyed in, the

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<v Speaker 2>Mavericks had no room to breathe, and that makes you

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<v Speaker 2>a great team. There are some legitimate similarities to the

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<v Speaker 2>four Pistons, a team that also didn't have anyone in

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<v Speaker 2>those finals go crazy. Nobody averaged twenty five, let alone

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<v Speaker 2>thirty points per game, but it didn't matter because they

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<v Speaker 2>were so well rounded and they crushed you on the

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<v Speaker 2>defensive end. And so listen, Jason Tatum gave you twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>seven and seven on thirty nine percent and twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>percent from three, and they blew the MAVs away. Jalen

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<v Speaker 2>Brown gave you twenty one, five and five on forty

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<v Speaker 2>four percent and twenty three percent from three and they

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<v Speaker 2>blew the MAVs away. Chris STAPs, Porzingis gave you six

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<v Speaker 2>healthy quarters and they blew the MAVs away. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>great team. It just is. And so I have no

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<v Speaker 2>problem saying I missed it because I thought that if

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<v Speaker 2>Tatum were to play at this level in the finals,

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<v Speaker 2>which I thought was likely, the MAVs would win. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>Tatum played at this level and the Celtics ever were tested.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a testament to the quality of the roster.

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<v Speaker 2>Brad Stevens moves he made the Drew Holliday edition, Chris STAPs,

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<v Speaker 2>even though he wasn't really available most of this playoff run,

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<v Speaker 2>bringing back Al Horford, Joe Missoula, keeping the team locked in,

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<v Speaker 2>neither Tatum nor Brown letting their ego get in the

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<v Speaker 2>way of this. All of this is about what a

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<v Speaker 2>great team is, and so I can hold both of

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<v Speaker 2>these ideas in my head. I believe this was a

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<v Speaker 2>great team, and I believe that despite the fact I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they have anyone that is close to a

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<v Speaker 2>historically great player. That almost makes it more impressive. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to bring up that four Piston's team again

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<v Speaker 2>because it was that four. Piston's team went to six

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<v Speaker 2>conference finals in eight years. Now. They won a championship

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<v Speaker 2>on the front end, Renther in the back end went

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<v Speaker 2>to another finals that they lost in seven That was

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<v Speaker 2>after the champions set up before the championship. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was a team that defensively could guard one through five

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<v Speaker 2>basically anywhere, and everyone accepted and was good with their roles,

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone except for Ben Wallace could be an offensive

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<v Speaker 2>star on any given night. That's this Celtics team. And

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to them for that. And so I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think and Dusty just sent it to me. These finals

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<v Speaker 2>were the second fewest points the Celtics scored in any

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<v Speaker 2>five game stretch of the season U. And with the

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<v Speaker 2>only you know what and if you the only five

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<v Speaker 2>game stretch UH that was fewer was the last game

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<v Speaker 2>of the conference finals through game four of these finals,

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<v Speaker 2>so it is they didn't have so think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about that for a moment, because this is a compliment.

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<v Speaker 2>The Celtics had their worst offensive five game stretch of

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<v Speaker 2>the season in the NBA Finals and were up three

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<v Speaker 2>to zero, to one, four to one. That is remarkable.

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<v Speaker 2>That is insane when you think about it, and and

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<v Speaker 2>thank you Dusty for looking that up. I just just

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<v Speaker 2>from watching the Celtics throughout the year and knowing the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers they average one twenty in this series, they ended

0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:58.520
<v Speaker 2>up they never hit one ten. They I knew their

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<v Speaker 2>offense wasn't clicking by looking by their own standards, and

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<v Speaker 2>they rolled. So this is where before we get to

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<v Speaker 2>other stuff. Celtics fans that want to be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>mad at me or annoyed, you can take a victory

0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.440
<v Speaker 2>lap in that I underrated your team. You deserve that.

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely did. Uh, there's no denying.

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<v Speaker 4>It orating a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're gonna get to Luca. I don't know if

0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:34.400
<v Speaker 2>I overrated him, but we'll get to Luca's performance. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>In in a moment, I want to stay on Boston

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<v Speaker 2>for now. Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>But you could say, I, well, let's just put a

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<v Speaker 5>picre the you if you want this.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were hoping this would be Jason Tatum's coronation,

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<v Speaker 2>then you're a little disappointed. If you were hoping this

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<v Speaker 2>would be the Celtics team coronation, and starting all the

0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:12.880
<v Speaker 2>way back with Danny Ainge deciding you know what, it's

0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:17.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna hurt, But I'm trading KG and Paul while they

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<v Speaker 2>still have value because our window is closed with something

0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.320
<v Speaker 2>like this in mind, that was a decade ago when

0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:29.200
<v Speaker 2>he made that move, and the Smart trade for Derek White,

0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the not you know, despite all the disappointments and despite

0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.320
<v Speaker 2>all the trade rumors, never trading Jail and Brown. Now,

0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.880
<v Speaker 2>some of that is probably good fortune because he obviously

0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.800
<v Speaker 2>was available at times, and you know the other teams

0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:47.920
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't accept the deal. The Jail and Brown and Jason

0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Tatum sticking together and getting closer and figuring out each

0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:57.200
<v Speaker 2>other's weaknesses more properly evaluating your own team and having

0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.800
<v Speaker 2>the courage to say, you know what, Marcus Smart, who

0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:03.240
<v Speaker 2>got here a year before, Jalen Brown, who kind of

0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:07.480
<v Speaker 2>had an outsized leadership role, you're out. We're trading you.

0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Getting Chris STAPs the moment Drew Holidays available, seizing on him.

0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Doing those things is how you build a champion. And

0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:23.360
<v Speaker 2>they did it, and so there is no shade, There

0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:29.600
<v Speaker 2>is no yeah. But they won the title. And I

0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.520
<v Speaker 2>note right now, Demons, before we move on to your

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<v Speaker 2>follow ups and then get to Luca, what's the fan

0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:43.360
<v Speaker 2>base you think right now that is last night had

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<v Speaker 2>the hardest time sleeping that last night watched the Celtics

0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:53.679
<v Speaker 2>win that championship and say, man, we blew it. That

0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:57.600
<v Speaker 2>should have been us. Because there's one that comes to

0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.760
<v Speaker 2>mind for me that it's gonna be hard for them

0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:04.200
<v Speaker 2>to get over. I'm curious if there is a team

0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.159
<v Speaker 2>fan base out there that watched these playoffs and watched

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<v Speaker 2>these finals and said we would have beaten that team,

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<v Speaker 2>We would have done better than the MAVs, and we

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<v Speaker 2>would have been Is there one that comes to mind?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, the Timberwolves, right?

0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't think it's the Timberwolves. What there? Yeah,

0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.960
<v Speaker 2>show the control room that that's right. It is Daniel's

0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:33.000
<v Speaker 2>pointing at himself, at himself. It's the Nuggets. The Nuggets

0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.479
<v Speaker 2>fans right now, to Daniel, give me a thumbs up

0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:40.879
<v Speaker 2>if I'm right. This has been a hard finals to

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<v Speaker 2>watch because right or wrong, the Nuggets fans are like,

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<v Speaker 2>we were up twenty in Game seven and we would

0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:53.000
<v Speaker 2>have rolled the MAVs. He's gonna walk away. Yeah, we

0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:56.679
<v Speaker 2>would have rolled the MAVs and the Celtics would have

0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:01.800
<v Speaker 2>had no answer for joker like that. The Nuggets, the

0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Nuggets are the one team. Because also, by the way

0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:10.240
<v Speaker 2>the Celtics this year eighty they finished the year eighty

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<v Speaker 2>and seventy, Is that right? Eighty and twenty one finished

0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:18.800
<v Speaker 2>the year eighty and twenty one. They are eighty and

0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:24.479
<v Speaker 2>nineteen against twenty eight teams and zero to two against Denver,

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:29.560
<v Speaker 2>and the Nuggets had they were up three to two

0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:32.200
<v Speaker 2>and then they were up twenty in a game seven

0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:36.600
<v Speaker 2>at home, and it was weird. And now maybe I

0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:38.720
<v Speaker 2>can say that even if they had gotten through that,

0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:42.399
<v Speaker 2>Dallas would have beaten them. But Nuggets fans today feel

0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:43.960
<v Speaker 2>like God dogg.

0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:48.760
<v Speaker 3>It's unfortunate feeling last year though, like the Celtics had

0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:50.720
<v Speaker 3>to go through that with playing the Heat. When they

0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.600
<v Speaker 3>the Heat went to go play Denver, and the Celtics

0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.440
<v Speaker 3>obviously knew they would have matched up better than the Heat, says,

0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:57.560
<v Speaker 3>so you gotta wear that well?

0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:01.320
<v Speaker 2>They right, exactly right, No, that's right where the Celtics

0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.280
<v Speaker 2>last year, like that should have been us and we

0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:07.080
<v Speaker 2>would have certainly given it a bet. Right, So I

0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.719
<v Speaker 2>in a weird way, I think Nuggets fans have a

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<v Speaker 2>harder time dealing with this Finals than MAVs fans. I

0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:19.200
<v Speaker 2>think the Timberwolves feel like Hey, we're a young team. Well,

0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:24.639
<v Speaker 2>Anthony's young, and we kind of spent ourselves beating Denver.

0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Dallas hit us, you know, with a sledgehammer. Dallas feels like,

0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:33.040
<v Speaker 2>holy bleep. We missed the playoffs. Last year. We were

0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:36.680
<v Speaker 2>at the play in line before the trade deadline. We

0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:42.640
<v Speaker 2>made the damn finals. It's it's the Nuggets that this

0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.240
<v Speaker 2>is a tough one for him, and maybe that would

0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.000
<v Speaker 2>have been a better finals, but you got to get

0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.880
<v Speaker 2>there for it to be a better final. You gotta

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:53.359
<v Speaker 2>get there. And so Boston, you get all the flowers,

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:57.679
<v Speaker 2>you get all the all the credit, and you're not

0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:04.960
<v Speaker 2>only deserving champs. You are. I'm gonna say one other

0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 2>thing and then we'll move on to your follow ups.

0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:13.880
<v Speaker 2>You are inspirational champs to a lot of the league.

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<v Speaker 2>In this regard. Man, if we don't have a top

0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:28.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty all time player, are we just spinning our wheels

0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:35.240
<v Speaker 2>for nothing? All right? We if we are so? No,

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:40.320
<v Speaker 2>it's not like, if you are right now, let me

0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:42.600
<v Speaker 2>let me give you, let me give you a I mean,

0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:47.199
<v Speaker 2>you can say that, but it's accurate. If you're right now,

0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 2>the Indiana Pacers right and you are trying to build something.

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 2>If you are the Sacramento Kings with dearon Fox, you're

0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:59.920
<v Speaker 2>trying to build something. If you maybe are the Minutes

0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:03.719
<v Speaker 2>so to Timberwolves with Anthony Edwards and trying to build something,

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:11.360
<v Speaker 2>and if the MAVs had won the title and beaten Boston,

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 2>it would feel like, well, with this whole build the

0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:22.160
<v Speaker 2>best team thing, let's see who wins titles. Luca Jokic, Jannis,

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Steph Kawhi when he was healthy, Lebron, Stephan Durant, Lebron,

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Stephan Clay, you know, Duncan with Kawhi and Tony and

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Manu Lebron with the way it's okay if we don't

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:42.280
<v Speaker 2>have one of the Celtics are this perfectly built team.

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 2>If Luca had gone in there with one other All

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Star and then a bunch of twenty two year olds

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 2>and beating them, it would feel like, all right, if

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 2>we don't get the Wimby lottery pick, what, we're just

0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:58.879
<v Speaker 2>spinning our wheels instead. What the Celtics showed you is

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 2>if if you have enough really good players and then

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 2>a couple excellent players, you can get away with not

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 2>having a legend. And that's not backhanded, and that's where

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 2>if Celtics fans want to get mad at me, that's fine,

0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 2>but it's just true. And so that is that. It

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:28.719
<v Speaker 2>is a It was the best result for the league

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:33.359
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to other fan bases feeling like, oh,

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:36.080
<v Speaker 2>there's a path here, all right, now we can do

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 2>the follow ups.

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 4>Go ahead.

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Jalen Brown got the MVP Trophy. You said that that's

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 3>who should have gotten the vote. Were you surprised that

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:44.439
<v Speaker 3>he got it?

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, I well a little bit. I thought there

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 2>was a chance that they were going to do something

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 2>hinky and I and tried it for the first time

0:24:57.040 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 2>ever do co MVPs. Somebody would split their vote. So

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 2>it was five and a half five and a half.

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought Drew deserved a little consideration because in a

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 2>series like this, this is how I feel I am

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna put a disproportionate impact on games one through three

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 2>when the series was in the balance, and Jalen was

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:27.120
<v Speaker 2>clearly the best player of those three games with Drew

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 2>to me being in second place, and Jalen hit the

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:32.920
<v Speaker 2>shot in game three that kind of iced it, that

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:35.680
<v Speaker 2>jumper to put him up four when it was getting perilous.

0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Uh with a round a little over a minute left.

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 2>But no, I think they got it right. I think

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 2>they got it right, and I'm happy they got it right.

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 2>What we got another jail and Jason question?

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:46.439
<v Speaker 4>Go ahead?

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So do you think we're in for a summer

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:52.640
<v Speaker 3>of Jalen Jason Tatum rumors or rivalry rumors?

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:59.719
<v Speaker 2>I again, I think that is that is going. You know,

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 2>the uh Twitter meme of the idea is somebody puts

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.400
<v Speaker 2>out like a highlight clip and then captions it with

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 2>and they said, but it's something no one has ever said,

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Like they put a clip of Steph hitting a bunch

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 2>of threes and then that somebody capts it with and

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:22.919
<v Speaker 2>they tried to tell you Steph Curry is not a

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 2>great shooter, like the something that no one actually has

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>ever said. I think that there are going to be

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Celtics fans who operate best from a place of angst

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 2>that don't know how it kind of feels to just

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 2>know you guys won and there's not really any downside, yeah,

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 2>but pessimistic side to it that are going to try

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 2>to straw man you into saying that that this is

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 2>a storyline. I don't think it's a storyline. I now

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.880
<v Speaker 2>now I guess maybe I'm going to contradict myself here.

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I I don't think it's a storyline. I do think

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>that if somebody went into next year and said, hey,

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 2>I think Jalen Brown's the best player on the team,

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 2>they can't be disregarded as trolling. I think he has

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 2>done enough in biggest spots where it's at least someone's

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 2>allowed to hold that opinion. Let me put it that way.

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that is an even I don't think he's

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 2>the best player on the team, right right, So you

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:42.239
<v Speaker 2>it's a viable opinion. It's an allowable opinion, not in

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 2>the way that think of the Warriors pre KD. If

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:49.120
<v Speaker 2>somebody was like, guys, I'm just telling you I think

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Klay Thompson is the best player, that's not a viable opinion,

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what. I mean that even though Stepp didn't

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 2>win finals MVP, Clay did either, obviously it's now a

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 2>viable opinion. But I think that I think Tatum has

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 2>the right disposition. Man, I think he wanted finals MVP.

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:10.639
<v Speaker 2>I think you could see once the game was decided

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.239
<v Speaker 2>in that second half, it did feel to me like

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Tatum was like, well, if I score forty I think

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll get it. But that's fine. He's supposed to want

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 2>finals MVP, Like, that's not a he's supposed to, you know,

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 2>want those accolades. But no, I don't think it's a

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 2>rivalry thing. All right, what's the next Tatum question?

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 3>So do you, with that said, with his mid performance

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 3>throughout the series, do you think that that would all

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 3>be forgotten if he had won Finals MVP.

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I do. And that's where it stings for

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 2>him just a bit, is if he had won Finals MVP,

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 2>anyone in the future that were to be like, oh,

0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, Tatum has n't been great in either final

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 2>he's been in, could can simply respond with he won

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Finals MVP. So it was similar to I'll give you

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 2>a not apples to apples, but an example Mahomes a

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 2>few Super bowls ago, right, So go back in time

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 2>where we are right after the Bengals playoff loss, where

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 2>mahomes last three postseasons had been beating the Niners, the

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 2>first time in the Super Bowl, getting blown out by

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay and then losing to the Bengals, and folks

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 2>would and Mahomes in that Niner Super Bowl, that first

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 2>one had two interceptions early, didn't play well for the

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 2>first three quarters of that game, but then was brilliant

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 2>late and won Super Bowl MVP. I remember being on

0:29:56.400 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Dan Patrick's show before the Eagles Super Bowl and Dan

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Patrick tried to say to me, well, you know, Mahomes

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 2>hasn't played very well in the Super Bowl in his career,

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 2>and I just replied with, what do you mean. He's like, well,

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 2>he hasn't been very good in either game, and I

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 2>just I think check made it him by being like, oh, well,

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 2>that's interesting because he's played in two of the games,

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 2>and in one of them they at the end of

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 2>the game they voted on who was the best player

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 2>on either team, either side of the ball, the single

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 2>best player in the game, and he won that award.

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 2>So I guess he played. If he didn't play well,

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 2>no one played well because he won Super Bowl MVP.

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 2>And so it is kind of a you know, big

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 2>joker when it comes to how poorly could the guy

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 2>have played if he was named the MVP of the

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 2>game or the series. So yeah, I do think it

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 2>would have been lost to history. Now it won't be,

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>but it's not the only way Tatum playing poorly was

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:02.959
<v Speaker 2>going to really hurt him was if they lost because

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 2>of it. Instead they ran away with it. So it

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 2>doesn't help him obviously, Like the championship helps him, but

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, not winning finals MVP, it doesn't help him.

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 2>But that to me's fair. All right, let's let's go

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 2>to the Celtic's future part, because we'll go ahead and

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 2>ask the other dam question. Then we'll go to it,

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 2>then we'll go to the.

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 3>Next Do you think he's reportedly gonna sign an offer

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 3>for five years, three hundred and fifteen million.

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 4>Do you think that's worth it?

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course, of course. He's one of the he's

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 2>one of the best players in the league, one of

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:42.239
<v Speaker 2>the call it ten best players in the league, and

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>that's what those guys get. So yeah, that's not even

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 2>a debate. That's not even a debate. He can be

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 2>clearly a cut below the very very best players in

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 2>the league and worth a max like that's not even

0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 2>to me, that's not that's not debatable. Now, one more

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Celtic question before we get to Luca.

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so they seem like a there seemed like a

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 3>perfectly built team to with stars and role players. Do

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 3>you think this is just the beginning of an air

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 3>of an era.

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think everybody's got to be careful. Every

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 2>team that wins the championship, we are convinced is just

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna keep winning championships. And we have six new champions

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 2>over the last six years, just so the if you

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 2>win the When the Bucks won the title, nobody thought

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 2>they weren't set up to just keep winning titles. Nobody

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, that was a fluke, No way that's sustainable.

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>And the next year Chris Middleton got hurt and they

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 2>haven't been passed the second round since then. When the

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Warriors won their last one, they were the favorites going

0:32:58.080 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 2>into the next year. But I don't know that people

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 2>thought necessarily they were set up for a long run

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 2>because they had already had their run. Certainly, when the

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Nuggets won their title, up until a month ago, everyone

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:11.959
<v Speaker 2>thought they were in the midst of what was going

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 2>to be the Nuggets era. And now everyone's gonna think

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 2>that about Boston. Now they're set up better than the

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Raptors in nineteen who knew they were probably losing Kawhi Leonard.

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 2>But very as we have learned, very hard to repeat.

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not ready to talk about dynasty.

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 3>I do think as far as the deepness and the

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 3>depth of the team, I just don't think all those

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 3>other teams to described didn't have five six guys I

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 3>could do it.

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Well.

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Denver did, I mean Dinver? Denver was very similar. Denver

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 2>had five starters you love plus Bruce Brown and then

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 2>lost Bruce Brown. The Celtics have five starters you love

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>plus Al Horford. I wouldn't. I think it's on the board.

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Horford retires now that he's won the tie, He's got

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 2>one year leftones steal, but I think it's on the

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 2>board he retires. So Milwaukee, everyone now thinks Milwaukee wasn't

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 2>this great team. Milwaukee, you know, had Drew Holliday, but

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 2>he was three years younger. Middleton was coming off his

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 2>best postseason. Giannis was a fire breathing dragon. Milwaukee looked

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>pretty damn good. And so I I think Boston is,

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, the a front line contender for next year.

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 2>But I do think it is too early to talk dynasty, obviously,

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not even I'm not yet penciling them in

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 2>as repeat champs, because as we're seeing in this era

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 2>of the NBA, repeat jamps are very hard to come by.

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Now let's get to Luca.

0:34:58.080 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 4>Go ahead.

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so Luca obviously wasn't able to get it done

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 3>by himself and his supporting cast. So now you're set

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 3>with an off season of listening a whiles to play

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 3>the piano.

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 4>I think I missed that part of the show. But

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 4>how much how much is as.

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 3>How much does a loss like this effect Luca's legacy?

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, so I'll do legacy first, then I'll get to

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:28.760
<v Speaker 2>your point about whether or not I overrated him. Okay,

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 2>so here's the legacy piece. Luca, because of this finals appearance,

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 2>is back on schedule. And by on schedule, I mean

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 2>when he came into the league, I thought his ceiling

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 2>was top ten all time player, and he now has

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 2>the through six years through age twenty five resume of

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 2>a guy on that trajectory. He just does. As far

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 2>as he's been in the league six years, he's been

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.359
<v Speaker 2>first team All NBA five times. He has now been

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 2>to an NBA Finals and a conference finals. Last year

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 2>he got himself off schedule. He had been on schedule

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 2>each year. So rookie year, Rookie of Rookie year, he's

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Rookie of the Year, second year first Team All NBA

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 2>awesome in the playoffs, lose as an underdoging Round one.

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Third year first Team All NBA even better in the playoffs,

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 2>losing seven to a better team, same team the Clippers

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:45.879
<v Speaker 2>in round one. Fourth year make the conference finals after

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 2>being first Team All NBA at age twenty three. Okay,

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.320
<v Speaker 2>this is exactly the way an all time great player goes.

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Fifth year first Team All NBA missed the playoffs. Now,

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, you're in trouble, and then six

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.240
<v Speaker 2>year got right back on track. And I can show

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 2>you this graphic that we made that Again, it's not

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 2>going to translate to the pod quite as well, but

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.399
<v Speaker 2>we can go full screen with it and I'll try

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 2>to explain to the listening audience. On the right hand side.

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 2>What you see is how many first Team All nbas

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 2>the active guys have, so Lebron obviously as the most,

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:30.240
<v Speaker 2>and it's almost an unfair standard. So for Lebron, he's

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 2>got thirteen first Team All NBAS, which is a farce

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 2>almost along with ten finals appearances and four rings. KD

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>has right there, he has five or six first Team

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 2>All NBAS and in those first Team All NBA seasons,

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 2>one ring and one other finals appearances. Giannis has six

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 2>first Team All Nbas hardened at six first Team All Nbas,

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 2>and then there is Louuka with five, Steph Ad Joker,

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 2>CP three all have four, Tatum and Guy have three.

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Then if you go to the history of it as

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 2>far as where Luca is twenty four and underseasons, no

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 2>one ever has more First Team All Nbas and the

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 2>only guys with four who have been to the NBA

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Finals are Durant and Duncan. Duncan of course won the title,

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 2>so he is right on track where he should be now.

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.319
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think his legacy takes a hit. I

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.760
<v Speaker 2>think this was good for his legacy this season. Now

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Here is where demons asked, did I overrate him? I

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 2>don't think I overrated him. I do think I overestimated

0:38:57.080 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 2>how good he'd be in this series US. He finishes

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 2>the series twenty nine, nine and six on forty seven

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 2>percent shooting and had a bad three point shooting series,

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 2>real bad shooting twenty four percent from three. He needed

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:18.280
<v Speaker 2>to be better, and while the whole world was killing

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Luca for his defense in Game three, as I tried

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 2>to make the point the MAVs did not lose this

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 2>series because of defense. They lost this series because of offense. Now,

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Boston's defense gets credit for that, but Lucas supposed to

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 2>be the skeleton key to solve all of that, and

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't able to. In order for the MAVs to

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:45.720
<v Speaker 2>win this series, Luca honestly needed to be thirty five,

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 2>nine and nine and that would have that would have

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 2>given them a fighting chance. I thought he would do that.

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>He didn't, So does this make me reevaluate him? Now?

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Now I will say this, finally a little good news

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 2>for Daniel. He doesn't get to be called the best

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 2>player in the league. Uh oh, well, I know that

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 2>was your follow up, de Monze, so we can skip

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 2>that follow up. But no, joker retains the title. I

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 2>felt it was available. If Luca had willed this MAVs

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 2>team to a championship, I would have been comfortable saying

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 2>he's the best player in the league. But there's no

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:37.800
<v Speaker 2>one in league history who has held the title best

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 2>player in the League before they either have won an

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 2>MVP or multiple or won a championship. The only possible

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 2>exception would be maybe Lebron at twenty two after he

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 2>got to the finals with that forty eight special, but

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 2>the very next year he won MVP, and I think

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.760
<v Speaker 2>most people at that moment still thought it was probably Kobe,

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 2>even if I thought it was Lebron so or maybe

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 2>they thought it was Duncan. So he's not we're not

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 2>able to go him best player in the league. But

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.359
<v Speaker 2>he's checked off all the boxes you're supposed to check

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:20.359
<v Speaker 2>off at age twenty five. And all the guys who

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 2>are you know on that short list, none of them

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>were winning titles before age twenty five, except for Magic,

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 2>who had Kareem. Kareem who did win his I think

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 2>at twenty five might have been twenty four his second Yeah,

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I guess he was twenty four second year Bird and

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 2>then Duncan of course.

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 3>But go ahead right with those check if they had

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 3>Lebron James I call it twenty sixteen Lebron James on

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:52.359
<v Speaker 3>this team. Do you think they would have been able

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.879
<v Speaker 3>to win the series? Because yes, I think that goes

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Intead instead of Luca.

0:41:57.760 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 4>Obviously.

0:41:58.320 --> 0:41:59.919
<v Speaker 3>I think that goes hand in hand with you saying

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 3>they had the guy. That's what I was saying, like

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 3>the like, hold on, but.

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 2>You got but we gotta be fair. You asked me

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 2>if they had twenty sixteen Lebron, I think they would

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 2>have won the series. Lebron was twenty five though, in

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine. So if they had O nine Lebron,

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 2>would they have won the series? I think they would have.

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 2>I think they would have done better. I ain't, but

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that they would have won the series

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 2>because oh nine Lebron, you know, to be fair, he

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 2>hadn't won a title yet either. Now, I here's the

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:44.359
<v Speaker 2>thing for well, let me see the uh well, I'll

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 2>get to that in a second. I but I don't

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:51.240
<v Speaker 2>think I said top ten all time Demanse. I didn't

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 2>say number one all time. So instead of comparing him

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:59.280
<v Speaker 2>to Lebron, let's compare him to if they had twenty

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 2>five year old Kobe. Do I think they would have

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 2>won the series? No? If they had twenty five year

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.799
<v Speaker 2>old Steph, do I think they would have won the series? No?

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>If they had twenty five year old check d do

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:17.319
<v Speaker 2>I think they would have won the series? No? I

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 2>don't twenty five year old Durant. No. You know those

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 2>guys who live in that eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve range,

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:29.880
<v Speaker 2>like I don't think they would have h now again Luca.

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I would give Luca for this series a B minus.

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he was great. He had great moments,

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think he was great. Now. Was he

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 2>banged up? Sure, but that gets us to actually believe

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:45.880
<v Speaker 2>it or not your follow up, So let's go ahead

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 2>and go to your criticism follow up.

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.360
<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, Luca obviously has received a lot of criticism

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:54.439
<v Speaker 3>throughout this series. How do you think that he'll bounce

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 3>back next year?

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 2>So I don't have as big of a problem with

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Luca's defense as everyone else does. I just there is

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 2>there is only one guy in league history who was

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 2>asked to run an offense, create all of the shots

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 2>for everyone else, do everything on that end, and be

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 2>a great defender. There's only one guy, and it's Lebron.

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Everyone else Magic was not asked to be a great defender.

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Steph is not asked to be a great defender. Kobe

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 2>was a great defender, but Kobe also was not creating

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 2>offense for other people. Obviously, you know the bigs. It's

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 2>a different story. Bird was a good defender. So if

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 2>we want to say Bird is maybe the closest comp

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:56.960
<v Speaker 2>that's fine, but Bird was not a great defender, and

0:44:57.080 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 2>so we have to be fair about what we're asking

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 2>of the guy. So with that said, here is what

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 2>is true, and this demands you're gonna agree with me,

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 2>And I think you're gonna give a Oh now you think,

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 2>now you say it? Take no, no, I mean he again,

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:23.919
<v Speaker 2>he spoon feeds everyone their baskets. This whole, this whole

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 2>idea that he's a that Kyrie thrived with him. If

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 2>you can create your own shot, Luca will defer to you.

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 2>If all you can do is catch lobs or hit threes,

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 2>Lucas gonna have to create for you. So stylistically, I

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 2>don't think he has to change. So I disagree with that.

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:45.239
<v Speaker 2>But this is the thing that I'm gonna say that.

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 2>I think you're gonna be like, yeah, now you now

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 2>you say it. He needs to be in better shape.

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 2>That part is true. I mean he he does need

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 2>to take his conditioning and fitness more seriously. I don't

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:09.359
<v Speaker 2>think he is. I And here's the deal. He is

0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 2>in good enough shape to get by if he were

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 2>not asked or wanted to do everything he does offensively.

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:26.240
<v Speaker 2>But run like that The secret to Lebron being able

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:28.799
<v Speaker 2>to do everything he did on that end of the

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:31.960
<v Speaker 2>court and be what he was defensively and go to

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 2>AID straight finals and play in one hundred game seasons

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 2>year after year after year after year. Was the guy's

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 2>in the best shape of anyone in the league, and

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Luca is never going to be that, But he needs, in.

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 4>What way more shape?

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Once upon, as I haven't seen older clips of him,

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 3>he's picked up.

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:56.439
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I think the clip. So two things. One

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 2>is I think the clip you saw that everyone is

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 2>showing is bubble Luca. So I think that there is

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 2>a distinguishing factor there that everyone has forgotten, which is

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 2>why were they in the bubble Because there was a

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 2>pandemic going on. They were locked in Disney World and

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 2>all they were allowed to do was play basketball. Everyone

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.800
<v Speaker 2>was in better shape, every single person in that bubble.

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 2>It's like there's no going out, there's no drinking, there's

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:33.799
<v Speaker 2>no partying. We are just hooping. So I think there

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 2>is that. And this is where I will say the

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 2>injury is not an excuse, But I do think the

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 2>injury a hurt his ability to stay in shape and

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 2>the way he would like to and made him appear slower,

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:56.320
<v Speaker 2>but he's obviously carrying a little too much weight. That's fair.

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 2>So to take that next step, he needs to cut.

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Joker did it, and Joker's not in the Jokers like indefatigable,

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 2>but he also he as he is not as heavy

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 2>as he was four years ago, and it helped him.

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 2>And so that is the next step for Luca. Uh so,

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I is Luca's hookahs closing down. I

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 2>don't know. If they had won the title, then he

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 2>can drink all the beer and smoke all the hook

0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 2>he wants. I give himself a few weeks of that,

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 2>but then he's got to get back to the gym.

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 2>All right, go ahead.

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 3>So this Dallas team this year exceeded expectations. Uh do

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 3>you expect them to be near this spot anytime soon?

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Tough? I mean they have a Derek Lively was excellent

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 2>as a rookie. Gafford was good, a good acquisition. I

0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:58.280
<v Speaker 2>like some of the young pieces, but man, it's hard.

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Everybody thinks we're going to get right back there. You

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:05.760
<v Speaker 2>don't always. And so it is going to take Luca

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:13.319
<v Speaker 2>getting to a tick. Like Luca at least maintaining, if

0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:15.840
<v Speaker 2>not getting a tick better. And then the real wild

0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:19.399
<v Speaker 2>card is Kyrie's health. Is Kyrie gonna have a year

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 2>as healthy as this year and where he's healthy in

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs? I don't, I don't know. So it's very,

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 2>very difficult to get back. Let's let's ask the chat question.

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Brandon asked, when is Luca leaving Dallas because of Kyrie?

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 4>When is he demanding his trade? You claimed, is that

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 4>still on the table?

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:50.760
<v Speaker 2>So this, Brandon, while I I I appreciate you watching

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 2>the show, Uh, this is something that you know has

0:49:55.200 --> 0:50:00.720
<v Speaker 2>been addressed multiple times, which is I have been so

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 2>blown away by Kyrie's maturity, professionalism, all of it over

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the last year and a half that he has correctly

0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 2>changed my opinion of him. So you know, I got

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 2>that what last year I picked the MAVs to win

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 2>the championship, and then when they traded for Kyrie. I

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 2>said what Brandon said, I said, which is he's going

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 2>to be you know, when Luca ends up demanding out

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:33.480
<v Speaker 2>of Dallas, this is going to be one of those dominoes.

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel that way anymore. I also do not

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 2>feel like one run to the finals all of a

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 2>sudden guarantees Luka mav for life. Giannis won the title,

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:53.719
<v Speaker 2>and two years later they made a panic trade because

0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:59.480
<v Speaker 2>they thought he was gonna leave. So there are anybody

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:03.920
<v Speaker 2>claiming that there are multi year horizons guaranteeing someone is

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:10.279
<v Speaker 2>staying somewhere, I think doesn't understand the modern MBA. I

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 2>just don't. So. Right now, the MAVs are in good shape.

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 2>But let something go awry next year and all of

0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, that is a massive topic of conversation. Again,

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and so especially, let me check the way Luca's contract works.

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Luca is so, Luca's under contract for two more years

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:39.319
<v Speaker 2>and then has a player option the following year. The

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:47.320
<v Speaker 2>point is this next year is a critical year for Dallas.

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:51.919
<v Speaker 2>They go backwards and Luca all of a sudden catches it,

0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:57.880
<v Speaker 2>starts catching a ton of heat. Then everything's available once again.

0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not putting that on Kyrie. That is simply

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 2>the reality of the modern NBA. Again, Giannis won the title,

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:11.919
<v Speaker 2>won the title, and within two years the Bucks were

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:15.399
<v Speaker 2>so terrified he was going to demand a trade that

0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:18.760
<v Speaker 2>they kind of made a panic move. They fired Boat Budenholtzer,

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:23.040
<v Speaker 2>they hired Adrian Griffin, They traded Drew Holliday for Damiens

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:27.280
<v Speaker 2>for Damian Lillard, which ended up maybe winning a title

0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:31.399
<v Speaker 2>for Boston. It's crazy how things work out. Quick break

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<v Speaker 2>and to the Caitlin Clerk discussion. I am going to

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 2>this is I this is my Father's Day present to

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 2>myself is doing this segment on the air because and

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:54.799
<v Speaker 2>any father out there, any parent out there of a

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:58.520
<v Speaker 2>young kid, I want you to know. I'm gonna use

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 2>the quote that I've used before. John Lopez, my old

0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:08.200
<v Speaker 2>radio partner in Houston, one of the best human beings

0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:13.160
<v Speaker 2>I've ever met, told me when Deanna was born. The

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:17.560
<v Speaker 2>day Deanna was born, every age is the best age.

0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 2>And he had kids that were at that point, one

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 2>in just started college, one was finishing college, and one

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:30.080
<v Speaker 2>who was I think you're right, Jacob, his oldest son,

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 2>was how old you are?

0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:31.560
<v Speaker 4>Now?

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? I think he is. I

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 2>think Jacob was like twenty five twenty six at the time,

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 2>and his point was, there isn't a best age, It's

0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:46.600
<v Speaker 2>just every age is the best. And so I am

0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:50.000
<v Speaker 2>now I now am a full believer in that philosophy.

0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:53.680
<v Speaker 2>And nothing made me feel it more than when I

0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:59.440
<v Speaker 2>got Demanse's Father's Day present to me, and so I so,

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:04.400
<v Speaker 2>and I loved it demands before I even opened it,

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.000
<v Speaker 2>because you and I, in so many ways are the

0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:11.320
<v Speaker 2>same person. So first of all, America, I'm going to

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:18.560
<v Speaker 2>cover this. It came in a Priority Express overnight envelope,

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 2>which this costs thirty dollars. Thirty dollars because much like

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:28.880
<v Speaker 2>how I am, instead of going to the post office

0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:34.200
<v Speaker 2>three days early, went the last possible minute and then

0:55:34.400 --> 0:55:38.560
<v Speaker 2>felt a real twinge of guilt. I am certain when

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:41.200
<v Speaker 2>you saw, like, wait, when will it get there? If

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:45.560
<v Speaker 2>I pay I if this cost me fifty cents, when

0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:47.960
<v Speaker 2>will it get there? Well? Not on time? What if

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I do the two day shipping, which America always do

0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:55.759
<v Speaker 2>the two day it's sometimes cheaper than ground anyway, and

0:55:55.840 --> 0:55:57.920
<v Speaker 2>it really does get there in two days. Oh, the

0:55:57.960 --> 0:56:01.759
<v Speaker 2>two day will cost nine dollars. Well, damn it, I

0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:06.719
<v Speaker 2>think that's gonna be late. What will overnight cost? Overnight's

0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:10.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna be thirty dollars? All right, screw it, I'll pay it.

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:14.560
<v Speaker 2>That is what without knowing, that's what happened. That's what happened.

0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:18.799
<v Speaker 2>So I got this and then in it is a

0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:22.879
<v Speaker 2>great card that I won't read, but it is a

0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:27.800
<v Speaker 2>great card. But also in the card is fifty dollars

0:56:27.920 --> 0:56:33.520
<v Speaker 2>cash and an Apple gift card. And I will read

0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 2>one little line which says at the end of it,

0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:42.240
<v Speaker 2>we should be even, and then some on the clash bill.

0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:46.680
<v Speaker 2>And that is for because demon'say, once upon a time

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 2>rolled up quite the charges on Clash of Clans on

0:56:54.600 --> 0:57:00.759
<v Speaker 2>my Apple account, and might occasionally still roll up a

0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:04.920
<v Speaker 2>few five dollars charges via Clash of Clans. So he

0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know what, what do you get the

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:10.240
<v Speaker 2>man that has everything? How about I pay him back

0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:14.400
<v Speaker 2>for some of these iTunes charges that started when I

0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:18.840
<v Speaker 2>was about fifteen and still occasionally show up and so

0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:23.440
<v Speaker 2>much appreciated. I will put this Apple card on the account.

0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 2>But it made me so happy seeing that it was

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:30.560
<v Speaker 2>an overnight thing and then all of it would go ahead.

0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:31.840
<v Speaker 2>It made me so happy.

0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Pal, love you, Pop's Happy Father's Day. You got that

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 3>on it? You got that Sunday? You got that Saturday

0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 3>night or Sunday? Right, you didn't get it. You didn't

0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:43.240
<v Speaker 3>get it yesterday? Did you get it yesterday?

0:57:43.600 --> 0:57:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately you paid the thirty dollars and it came in

0:57:47.720 --> 0:57:51.800
<v Speaker 2>the morning. I know you're mad, I know you're I

0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:55.000
<v Speaker 2>know you're mad. That was the other thing. You paid

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:57.680
<v Speaker 2>all this extra to make sure it would get there

0:57:57.920 --> 0:58:01.240
<v Speaker 2>on time, and they still fried you. They still got

0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:03.360
<v Speaker 2>it to me on Monday, but go ahead.

0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it was funny because we had we had

0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:08.160
<v Speaker 3>talked in like you had you hadn't said anything about it,

0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:09.720
<v Speaker 3>but I thought it was just you forgot to mention it.

0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 4>So you did so.

0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Uh that that iTunes gift card, don't try to put

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:14.840
<v Speaker 3>it into your phone.

0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:16.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean going to the Roffs.

0:58:16.400 --> 0:58:19.160
<v Speaker 3>There's been a lot of fraud on the iTunes cards,

0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:21.640
<v Speaker 3>so they don't put money on them, like you can't

0:58:21.720 --> 0:58:24.360
<v Speaker 3>literally you literally can't buy them. I put that in

0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:27.400
<v Speaker 3>there so you would also like know that.

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:28.960
<v Speaker 4>That was what was fun to.

0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Understand, Like the encrypted we should be even on the

0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 3>clash bill, but that was just like basically set up

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:36.960
<v Speaker 3>like this is what that's for.

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, all right, well that's good. It also means

0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:45.360
<v Speaker 2>it also means that the present was half of what

0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was. I thought it was one hundred dollars,

0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 2>but it was fifty. Because this does say something, but

0:58:51.400 --> 0:58:55.200
<v Speaker 2>now I get it. So this is an unactivated Apple

0:58:55.320 --> 0:59:01.760
<v Speaker 2>card to sing I couldn't activate us. I got you

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:06.240
<v Speaker 2>to signify the fifty dollars cash is for the clash

0:59:06.240 --> 0:59:09.360
<v Speaker 2>of clans. Okay, so be it. That's fair. I also

0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I the I that makes me happy actually because I said,

0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:16.880
<v Speaker 2>because I opened it in front of your mom. And

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:19.520
<v Speaker 2>your mom's so funny. She's like, he's such a good boy,

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:22.720
<v Speaker 2>like he's twenty five years old. I don't know if

0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:25.280
<v Speaker 2>good boy is the way we should be phrasing it,

0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:29.320
<v Speaker 2>but but I said to her, I was like this

0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:31.840
<v Speaker 2>too much. I was like, this is one hundred and

0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:34.160
<v Speaker 2>thirty dollars you spent on father's And I was like,

0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:38.120
<v Speaker 2>the guy, this guy's working hard for his money. So

0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:41.760
<v Speaker 2>that makes me feel a little bit better. Okay, let's

0:59:41.760 --> 0:59:42.800
<v Speaker 2>get to Caitlyn Clark.

0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:44.400
<v Speaker 4>All right.

0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 3>So Caitlin Clark is trending again after the hard foul

0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:51.440
<v Speaker 3>that Angel Reese gave her. She kind of clocked her

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<v Speaker 3>in the head, looked like she was going for the ball. Ye,

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<v Speaker 3>honest mistake, but the flower the foul was upgraded so

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<v Speaker 3>flagrant and even seeing n covered it. U do you

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<v Speaker 3>think that this, uh that this is good for Angel

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<v Speaker 3>Reese and Caitlin Clark's rivalry.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean it's good as long as it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mm hmm that screw it. Listen, folks, I gotta we

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<v Speaker 2>gotta have a to steal a line from poker player,

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<v Speaker 2>uh Jaffy his dankness on Twitter. We gotta have an

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<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable conversation, all right, Uh, because folks that are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to chase social media fame or dollars are using Angel

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<v Speaker 2>and Caitlin Clark as race war centuries to try to

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<v Speaker 2>fan the flames and get people angry and really make

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<v Speaker 2>it to where if you support Caitlin Clark, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>like black people, and if you support if you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>if you support Angel Reese, you are signifying something about

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<v Speaker 2>how you feel about Caitlin Clark's coverage. And it is

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<v Speaker 2>transparent what's happening. And it is also working to the

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<v Speaker 2>point to where here's an anecdote for you, Demansey. So everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>not because I think it was so profound, but just

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<v Speaker 2>it will better inform this discussion. If you get a chance,

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<v Speaker 2>go to my Twitter and watch what I said on

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<v Speaker 2>TV about the flagrant foul, which wasn't really anything about

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<v Speaker 2>the flagrant foul. It was actually just about the basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I look at I always kind of look at

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<v Speaker 2>the take landscape and I try to see I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>where is Where's their available real estate? And I'm like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a weird thing happening with the WNBA, which is

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<v Speaker 2>it is being discussed more than ever, and yet I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't heard anyone make the point. The Fever actually have

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<v Speaker 2>won after starting zero to five, They've won five of

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<v Speaker 2>their last ten, three of their last four. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>playing back to backs anymore. They are currently in the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs if they started today. And you know, nobody's talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the actual basketball of it. So I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's available real estate. So I'll plant my flag there

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<v Speaker 2>because I think it's interesting and if people want the

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<v Speaker 2>actual basketball part of it, maybe they'll think of me,

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<v Speaker 2>and first things first, that we have interesting things to

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<v Speaker 2>say on it. So the reason I say everyone should

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<v Speaker 2>go watch this clip is because I just talked about

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<v Speaker 2>the basketball of it, about how Angel and Caitlin have

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<v Speaker 2>been the two best rookies by far, that they're holding

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<v Speaker 2>up their end on the basketball court, that Caitlin is

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<v Speaker 2>one of two players in the league averaging at least

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen to five and five one of seven players in

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<v Speaker 2>the league that is in the top twenty five and points,

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<v Speaker 2>rebounds and assists and that, yeah, that is a that's

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<v Speaker 2>a flagrant foul inasmuch as intent doesn't matter if you

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<v Speaker 2>hit him in the head. So I don't think Angel

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<v Speaker 2>was targeting Caitlyn's head. But I think the way the

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<v Speaker 2>rule is written, forcible contact to the head, even if

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<v Speaker 2>it's part of a basketball play, is a flagrant one,

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<v Speaker 2>not a flagrant two, but a flagrant one. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think Angel was out of luck. I also think

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<v Speaker 2>it was a flagrant. I also think it's pretty clear

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<v Speaker 2>that that is a real, real rivalry. My old speech

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<v Speaker 2>impediment just caught up to me for the first time

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<v Speaker 2>in a long time, something people may or may not

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<v Speaker 2>know about me. I used to not be able to

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<v Speaker 2>say my r's or my l's, so words like real

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<v Speaker 2>and rivalry or world anything with an R and an

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<v Speaker 2>L together. Rivalry is a tough one. We got an

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<v Speaker 2>R on the front end era for that. Except for

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<v Speaker 2>that and then real rivalry, I was, I mean, all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, I flashed back thirty years to speech

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<v Speaker 2>therapy try to get it together. I was like, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you do that one? But uh, they have a

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<v Speaker 2>real rivalry Okay, that's good. I have heard for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's wrong with the NBA. Everybody's two buddy, buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>these girls ain't They had a rivalry in college. It

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<v Speaker 2>is extended to the pros it it's great. And do

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<v Speaker 2>are there underlying racial dynamics to it? Yes? There are,

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<v Speaker 2>even if for even if there isn't for either one

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<v Speaker 2>of them specifically, they exist. The coverage the Iowa women's

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<v Speaker 2>team got after losing to the LSU women's team, the

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<v Speaker 2>coverage the LSU women's team got, you know where. They

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<v Speaker 2>tried to invite the Iowa women's team to the White

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<v Speaker 2>House as well, even though they hadn't won the title.

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<v Speaker 2>The way the LSU women's team was painted compared to

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<v Speaker 2>the Iowa women's team last year, there, of course, race

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<v Speaker 2>played a part in it. You would be insane to

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<v Speaker 2>act like it didn't, Okay, but you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to acknowledge that and then also acknowledge that Caitlin

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<v Speaker 2>Clark is excellent. This idea that she is some white

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<v Speaker 2>girl media creation, like as if she is some on

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<v Speaker 2>a corner coova of old reference of the WNBA is

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<v Speaker 2>belied by the fact that games are played and she

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<v Speaker 2>puts up numbers and she is now contributing to winning.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if you wanted to act like Angel Reese

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<v Speaker 2>is more celebrity than player and she that is belied

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<v Speaker 2>by the fact that she is averaging the second most

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<v Speaker 2>points of any rookie in the WNBA, only to Caitlin,

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<v Speaker 2>and the most rebounds of any rookie in the WNBA.

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<v Speaker 2>They have both been excellent. So here's why this whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing has gone off the rails. And this was the

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<v Speaker 2>point I was gonna make to you, and I interrupted

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<v Speaker 2>myself three times. That was a classic meme moment. I

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<v Speaker 2>went on like six tangents within my own point. The

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<v Speaker 2>reason I said watch my clip from yesterday is my

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<v Speaker 2>clip is just talking basketball and people demands slid into

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<v Speaker 2>your mother's DMS saying, essentially, I hope what your husband

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<v Speaker 2>said about Angel Reyese yesterday opened your eyes to how

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<v Speaker 2>all white people really think about us like a real Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not on the right side on this. And when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to this topic, everyone is exposing themselves. And

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<v Speaker 2>the reason that was even worth mentioning is because I

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<v Speaker 2>believe the social media bad actors and the media in

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<v Speaker 2>some ways and some of our politicians have succeeded in

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<v Speaker 2>making this where you must pick aside along racial lines.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to present yourself as someone that is

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<v Speaker 2>in favor of social justice and equality and causes that

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<v Speaker 2>many of us have a longstanding history of being on

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<v Speaker 2>the correct side of, you must then go on TV

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<v Speaker 2>and say Angel Reese has handled everything perfectly and basically

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<v Speaker 2>Caitlyn Clark is a whiny baby. Even though Caitlin has

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<v Speaker 2>never complained about any of it. All she's done is say,

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<v Speaker 2>it's basketball, we play hard. I like, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't speak to the biggest Caitlin Clark fans. I can't,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of might be out of their minds.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not tell me if you disagree with me.

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<v Speaker 2>To Monsey, that's not Caitlin's fault. The fact that she

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<v Speaker 2>that there are people who are now bad actors in

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<v Speaker 2>the other direction who are saying she is being targeted

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<v Speaker 2>because she's white, or saying that she was left off

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<v Speaker 2>the Olympic team because there's an anti Caitlin conspiracy, which

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<v Speaker 2>is really an anti white conspiracy. Those people are objectively insane,

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not on her. I don't think that's on

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<v Speaker 2>her when she has answered every question the right way,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will not I personally will not allow these

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<v Speaker 2>social media charlatans to win where they have made a

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<v Speaker 2>clear obvious goal of making this be a racial dividing

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<v Speaker 2>line pick aside. I think that's bullshit, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's toxic, and I am here saying I think these

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<v Speaker 2>two young women have either one of them handled it

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<v Speaker 2>all perfectly if I were handling it for them, No,

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<v Speaker 2>if I were. If I were handling it for Caitlin,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have taken a more vocal stance earlier about

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<v Speaker 2>her name being used for devisive purposes she eventually did.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have done it a little earlier. And if

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<v Speaker 2>I were handling things for Angel, I would have talked

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<v Speaker 2>with her about, Hey, we got to decide do we

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<v Speaker 2>want to be the villain or do we not? Because

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<v Speaker 2>like there are at times it feels like she's straddling,

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<v Speaker 2>Like after this last game when she there was a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a the refs took control of the game, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not villain behavior. Villain behavior as I went for

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<v Speaker 2>a block, Sorry, I hit her in the head. It's basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like owning it, owning it,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think either one has handled it perfectly,

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<v Speaker 2>but I wouldn't expect anyone in their early twenties with

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<v Speaker 2>this level of scrutiny and fame to handle anything perfectly.

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<v Speaker 2>But I like them both. They were both dope as

1:11:27.320 --> 1:11:31.120
<v Speaker 2>hell in college, they're both being they are en route

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<v Speaker 2>to being dope as hell in the WNBA and this

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing where you've got And I never both sides

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<v Speaker 2>things because typically when it comes to important issues, I

1:11:44.479 --> 1:11:47.880
<v Speaker 2>happen to think one side is batten about nine hundred

1:11:47.920 --> 1:11:51.040
<v Speaker 2>and the other sides batten about one hundred. So I

1:11:51.080 --> 1:11:54.000
<v Speaker 2>don't like both sides of it on this one. I

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<v Speaker 2>think there have been some very influential bad actors on

1:11:57.600 --> 1:12:02.120
<v Speaker 2>both sides. There are obvious ones on the Caitland side

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<v Speaker 2>of things, Nikki Haley, that stupid congress person in Indiana

1:12:07.960 --> 1:12:11.920
<v Speaker 2>that was trying to pass a law related to Caitlin Clark.

1:12:12.240 --> 1:12:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Those folks are obvious. And then there are folks that,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, are more subtle about it, just clearly trying

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<v Speaker 2>to turn, if you will, sections of Black America against

1:12:29.479 --> 1:12:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Caitlin Clark, and I find it it is so disappointing.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's my take on This is more about

1:12:39.280 --> 1:12:45.080
<v Speaker 2>how it is being covered and how people are consuming it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I and I'm gonna add one other thing. The

1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:57.040
<v Speaker 2>fact that people now get a check or a direct

1:12:57.120 --> 1:13:04.400
<v Speaker 2>deposit if their tweets getting agement, I think is a

1:13:04.680 --> 1:13:09.880
<v Speaker 2>wildly damaging phenomenon. It incentivizes in a way we've not

1:13:10.120 --> 1:13:12.040
<v Speaker 2>just like oh, I can grow a following and then

1:13:12.080 --> 1:13:15.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe sell it off one day, like Dove Climban allegedly did.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, you get a literal direct deposit from Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>depending if you're you know, pay for the blue check

1:13:23.040 --> 1:13:25.599
<v Speaker 2>mark or get the blue check mark, you get money

1:13:25.680 --> 1:13:30.479
<v Speaker 2>in your account. It depending on how much engagement your

1:13:30.479 --> 1:13:35.360
<v Speaker 2>suff gits each month. It it yes, correct, It just

1:13:35.520 --> 1:13:43.640
<v Speaker 2>incentivizes bad behavior. It and there there's the banal bad behavior,

1:13:43.720 --> 1:13:48.160
<v Speaker 2>which is one of those anonymous and the NBA aggregator

1:13:48.200 --> 1:13:53.640
<v Speaker 2>accounts tweeting out oh man, the Sam Houser sweepstakes. This

1:13:53.760 --> 1:13:57.240
<v Speaker 2>summer is gonna be bananas where you tweet things just

1:13:57.360 --> 1:14:00.640
<v Speaker 2>trying to get dunked on like that. It's become a

1:14:00.680 --> 1:14:03.400
<v Speaker 2>thing because you can get paid off that. But then

1:14:03.439 --> 1:14:09.639
<v Speaker 2>there's way worse, which is, you know, trying to fan

1:14:09.840 --> 1:14:14.960
<v Speaker 2>the flames of racial disunity. So I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like it one little bit. So, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost noon. Okay, well I've screwed up the clock

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<v Speaker 2>once again. Quick break right back, What's Right? Welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>let's get to a question that I wanted to get

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<v Speaker 2>to last week but we didn't have time, and apologies.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll do the same thing on Thursday with some

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<v Speaker 2>of your questions from today. We've just been running late

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<v Speaker 2>on all these shows and I have to get to TV. Demante,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and read the question.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Cooper asks or says Lucas Josh Allen. He's

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<v Speaker 3>simultaneously their only chance and the reason they can't win.

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<v Speaker 2>So Brent Hanks, great poker broadcaster, formerly great poker player,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's lost his fastball considerably. Brent Hanks made this.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a diehard Buffalo Bills fan. He made this comp

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<v Speaker 2>to me and you can follow him on Twitter at

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<v Speaker 2>Buffalo Hanks. Tell him that I'm talking about him. Made

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<v Speaker 2>this comp to me months ago, that Luke is Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Allen and I love one and crushed the other, and

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<v Speaker 2>that I that I need to see the similarities on

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<v Speaker 2>its face. I understand the similarities, which is wow. He

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<v Speaker 2>does all these things well, but then also there are

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<v Speaker 2>some drawbacks. He's not the best, but is he the

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<v Speaker 2>second best? I get all of that. The way though

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<v Speaker 2>he would be the comp would work is if Luca

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't made this NBA final, and it was because he

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<v Speaker 2>just keeps losing to the same guy year after year

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<v Speaker 2>after year. That of course, is not Lucas story. That is, however,

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Allen's story. So I understand the surface level comps,

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<v Speaker 2>but not past that. By the way, speaking of poker,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna do a pod Thursday. We are not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do a pod Tuesday because I'm gonna be in Vegas

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<v Speaker 2>playing in the World Series of Poker, playing in a

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<v Speaker 2>few events, programming update live on the fly. Found out. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that I was gonna be doing that

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<v Speaker 2>because if there was a Game seven of the finals,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't gonna be able to go. But no Game seven,

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<v Speaker 2>which means I'm actually not on TV Monday, Tuesday or

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday because of the Euros. So instead of taking five

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<v Speaker 2>days to rest and recuperate, I'm flying to Vegas to

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<v Speaker 2>play poker. See you guys Thursday, See you on TV

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<v Speaker 2>in about an hour with Colin see on my show

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<v Speaker 2>in about three hours.

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