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Speaker 2: Welcome in What's Right with Nick Wright Episode two forty five.

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Speaker 2: Sun is off to quite the championship run in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. We don't have a favorite hockey team, so

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Speaker 2: that doesn't really count. There have been two championships decided

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Speaker 2: this year. One the Kansas City Chiefs who won the title,

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Speaker 2: my team beating your team, the Baltimore Ravens and root

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Speaker 2: to it. And two the Boston Celtics who won the title,

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Speaker 2: who beat kind of my adopted team, the Dallas Mavericks

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Speaker 2: in route to it. So it's been a long road

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Speaker 2: for you as a Celtics fan. You kind of picked

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Speaker 2: the worst era in Celtics history, which is a testament

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Speaker 2: how great their history is. To become a Celtics fan

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Speaker 2: because you went such a long you became a fan

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Speaker 2: in twenty ten, and then they won their first title

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Speaker 2: of your fandom this year, So I worst sounds bad,

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Speaker 2: but my point is they've done so much winning over

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Speaker 2: Eighty six to eight was the longest one, but you

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Speaker 2: So before we get to any of it, congratulations, it's

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Speaker 2: your first favorite team that's ever won a championship. How

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Speaker 2: to feel watching it? Not a lot of suspense in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we did win. I got my moss right, here

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Speaker 2: Oh but just take just a straight shot morning West

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Speaker 3: So it felt great, I will say something about it

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Speaker 3: felt unnatural, like with how easy it was. But like

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Speaker 3: Tatum said, long time coming, very glad they got it done,

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Speaker 3: and just excited to see this team now year and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I understand, I relate to that. It was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so my Celtics are obviously world champions now, just

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Speaker 3: won the finals last night. They finished. You already said

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Speaker 4: Oh I did. The words are tiny, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because I said, let me read the tweet. Congrats to

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Speaker 2: I didn't believe in them. I didn't think they had

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Speaker 2: That is six excellent players, guys who know their roles

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Speaker 3: But go ahead, all right, So do you think this

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that was always a straw man. I

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Speaker 2: Go you know, argued with me and yelled at me,

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Speaker 2: don't I don't think credible. People are like, oh, a

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Speaker 2: and so I just don't think that anyone ever was

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Speaker 2: that obviously is a different discussion and that's not accurate.

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't matter. The Celtics handled all their business

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Speaker 2: They then never faced a game six in these playoffs.

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Speaker 2: They either swept or won in five every series. That

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Speaker 2: this up and Dusty you're watching, So Dusty, tell me

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Speaker 2: which I thought was likely, the MAVs would win. Instead,

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Speaker 2: That is a testament to the quality of the roster.

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Speaker 2: bringing back Al Horford, Joe Missoula, keeping the team locked in,

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Speaker 2: these ideas in my head. I believe this was a

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Speaker 2: because it was that four. Piston's team went to six

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Speaker 2: and everyone except for Ben Wallace could be an offensive

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Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna get to Luca. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: If you were hoping this would be Jason Tatum's coronation,

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Speaker 2: way back with Danny Ainge deciding you know what, it's

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Speaker 2: still have value because our window is closed with something

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Speaker 2: Getting Chris STAPs the moment Drew Holidays available, seizing on him.

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Speaker 2: Doing those things is how you build a champion. And

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Speaker 2: they did it, and so there is no shade, There

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Speaker 2: base you think right now that is last night had

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Speaker 2: should have been us. Because there's one that comes to

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Speaker 4: Oh, the Timberwolves, right?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think it's the Timberwolves. What there? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: show the control room that that's right. It is Daniel's

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Speaker 2: pointing at himself, at himself. It's the Nuggets. The Nuggets

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Speaker 2: if I'm right. This has been a hard finals to

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Speaker 2: have rolled the MAVs. He's gonna walk away. Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: would have rolled the MAVs and the Celtics would have

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Speaker 2: had no answer for joker like that. The Nuggets, the

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Speaker 2: Nuggets are the one team. Because also, by the way

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Speaker 2: the Celtics this year eighty they finished the year eighty

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Speaker 2: Dallas would have beaten them. But Nuggets fans today feel

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Speaker 3: It's unfortunate feeling last year though, like the Celtics had

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Speaker 3: obviously knew they would have matched up better than the Heat, says,

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Speaker 3: so you gotta wear that well?

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Speaker 2: They right, exactly right, No, that's right where the Celtics

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Speaker 2: last year, like that should have been us and we

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Speaker 2: would have certainly given it a bet. Right, So I

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Speaker 2: in a weird way, I think Nuggets fans have a

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Speaker 2: harder time dealing with this Finals than MAVs fans. I

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Speaker 2: think the Timberwolves feel like Hey, we're a young team. Well,

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Speaker 2: Anthony's young, and we kind of spent ourselves beating Denver.

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Speaker 2: Dallas hit us, you know, with a sledgehammer. Dallas feels like,

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Speaker 2: holy bleep. We missed the playoffs. Last year. We were

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Speaker 2: get there. And so Boston, you get all the flowers,

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Speaker 2: you get all the all the credit, and you're not

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Speaker 2: only deserving champs. You are. I'm gonna say one other

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Speaker 2: You are inspirational champs to a lot of the league.

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Speaker 2: In this regard. Man, if we don't have a top

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Speaker 2: for nothing? All right? We if we are so? No,

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Speaker 2: it's not like, if you are right now, let me

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Speaker 2: let me give you, let me give you a I mean,

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Speaker 2: you can say that, but it's accurate. If you're right now,

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Speaker 2: it would feel like, well, with this whole build the

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Speaker 2: best team thing, let's see who wins titles. Luca Jokic, Jannis,

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Speaker 2: Steph Kawhi when he was healthy, Lebron, Stephan Durant, Lebron,

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Speaker 2: If Luca had gone in there with one other All

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Speaker 2: we don't get the Wimby lottery pick, what, we're just

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Speaker 2: spinning our wheels instead. What the Celtics showed you is

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Speaker 2: if Celtics fans want to get mad at me, that's fine,

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Speaker 2: but it's just true. And so that is that. It

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Speaker 2: when it comes to other fan bases feeling like, oh,

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Speaker 4: Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown got the MVP Trophy. You said that that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I well a little bit. I thought there

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Speaker 2: it was five and a half five and a half.

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Speaker 2: I thought Drew deserved a little consideration because in a

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Speaker 2: What we got another jail and Jason question?

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Speaker 4: Go ahead?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So do you think we're in for a summer

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Speaker 2: I I don't think it's a storyline. I do think

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Speaker 2: I think that is an even I don't think he's

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Speaker 2: it's a viable opinion. It's an allowable opinion, not in

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Speaker 2: you know what. I mean that even though Stepp didn't

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Speaker 2: the right disposition. Man, I think he wanted finals MVP.

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Speaker 2: I think you could see once the game was decided

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Speaker 2: I'll get it. But that's fine. He's supposed to want

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Speaker 3: So do you, with that said, with his mid performance

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I do. And that's where it stings for

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Speaker 2: Finals MVP. So it was similar to I'll give you

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Speaker 2: few Super bowls ago, right, So go back in time

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Speaker 2: where we are right after the Bengals playoff loss, where

430
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: mahomes last three postseasons had been beating the Niners, the

431
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Speaker 2: first time in the Super Bowl, getting blown out by

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay and then losing to the Bengals, and folks

433
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: would and Mahomes in that Niner Super Bowl, that first

434
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: one had two interceptions early, didn't play well for the

435
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: first three quarters of that game, but then was brilliant

436
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: late and won Super Bowl MVP. I remember being on

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00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick's show before the Eagles Super Bowl and Dan

438
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: Patrick tried to say to me, well, you know, Mahomes

439
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: hasn't played very well in the Super Bowl in his career,

440
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: and I just replied with, what do you mean. He's like, well,

441
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: he hasn't been very good in either game, and I

442
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Speaker 2: just I think check made it him by being like, oh, well,

443
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: that's interesting because he's played in two of the games,

444
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: and in one of them they at the end of

445
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: the game they voted on who was the best player

446
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: on either team, either side of the ball, the single

447
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: best player in the game, and he won that award.

448
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: So I guess he played. If he didn't play well,

449
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: no one played well because he won Super Bowl MVP.

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00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: And so it is kind of a you know, big

451
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: joker when it comes to how poorly could the guy

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Speaker 2: have played if he was named the MVP of the

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Speaker 2: game or the series. So yeah, I do think it

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Speaker 2: would have been lost to history. Now it won't be,

455
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: but it's not the only way Tatum playing poorly was

456
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 2: going to really hurt him was if they lost because

457
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: of it. Instead they ran away with it. So it

458
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: doesn't help him obviously, Like the championship helps him, but

459
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: you know, not winning finals MVP, it doesn't help him.

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00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: But that to me's fair. All right, let's let's go

461
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: to the Celtic's future part, because we'll go ahead and

462
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: ask the other dam question. Then we'll go to it,

463
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: then we'll go to the.

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Speaker 3: Next Do you think he's reportedly gonna sign an offer

465
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: for five years, three hundred and fifteen million.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that's worth it?

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00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, of course. He's one of the he's

468
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: one of the best players in the league, one of

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Speaker 2: the call it ten best players in the league, and

470
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: that's what those guys get. So yeah, that's not even

471
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: a debate. That's not even a debate. He can be

472
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: clearly a cut below the very very best players in

473
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: the league and worth a max like that's not even

474
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: to me, that's not that's not debatable. Now, one more

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00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: Celtic question before we get to Luca.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they seem like a there seemed like a

477
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: perfectly built team to with stars and role players. Do

478
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: you think this is just the beginning of an air

479
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: of an era.

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00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think everybody's got to be careful. Every

481
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: team that wins the championship, we are convinced is just

482
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: gonna keep winning championships. And we have six new champions

483
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: over the last six years, just so the if you

484
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: win the When the Bucks won the title, nobody thought

485
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: they weren't set up to just keep winning titles. Nobody

486
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: was like, oh, that was a fluke, No way that's sustainable.

487
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: And the next year Chris Middleton got hurt and they

488
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: haven't been passed the second round since then. When the

489
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: Warriors won their last one, they were the favorites going

490
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: into the next year. But I don't know that people

491
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: thought necessarily they were set up for a long run

492
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: because they had already had their run. Certainly, when the

493
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: Nuggets won their title, up until a month ago, everyone

494
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 2: thought they were in the midst of what was going

495
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: to be the Nuggets era. And now everyone's gonna think

496
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: that about Boston. Now they're set up better than the

497
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: Raptors in nineteen who knew they were probably losing Kawhi Leonard.

498
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: But very as we have learned, very hard to repeat.

499
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Speaker 2: So I'm not ready to talk about dynasty.

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Speaker 3: I do think as far as the deepness and the

501
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: depth of the team, I just don't think all those

502
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: other teams to described didn't have five six guys I

503
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: could do it.

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00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 4: Well.

505
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: Denver did, I mean Dinver? Denver was very similar. Denver

506
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: had five starters you love plus Bruce Brown and then

507
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: lost Bruce Brown. The Celtics have five starters you love

508
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: plus Al Horford. I wouldn't. I think it's on the board.

509
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: Horford retires now that he's won the tie, He's got

510
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: one year leftones steal, but I think it's on the

511
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: board he retires. So Milwaukee, everyone now thinks Milwaukee wasn't

512
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: this great team. Milwaukee, you know, had Drew Holliday, but

513
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: he was three years younger. Middleton was coming off his

514
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: best postseason. Giannis was a fire breathing dragon. Milwaukee looked

515
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: pretty damn good. And so I I think Boston is,

516
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: you know, the a front line contender for next year.

517
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: But I do think it is too early to talk dynasty, obviously,

518
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: and I'm not even I'm not yet penciling them in

519
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: as repeat champs, because as we're seeing in this era

520
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: of the NBA, repeat jamps are very hard to come by.

521
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: Now let's get to Luca.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead.

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00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: Yes, so Luca obviously wasn't able to get it done

524
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: by himself and his supporting cast. So now you're set

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00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: with an off season of listening a whiles to play

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00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: the piano.

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Speaker 4: I think I missed that part of the show. But

528
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 4: how much how much is as.

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Speaker 3: How much does a loss like this effect Luca's legacy?

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Speaker 2: Well, so I'll do legacy first, then I'll get to

531
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Speaker 2: your point about whether or not I overrated him. Okay,

532
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: so here's the legacy piece. Luca, because of this finals appearance,

533
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: is back on schedule. And by on schedule, I mean

534
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: when he came into the league, I thought his ceiling

535
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: was top ten all time player, and he now has

536
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: the through six years through age twenty five resume of

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00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: a guy on that trajectory. He just does. As far

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00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: as he's been in the league six years, he's been

539
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 2: first team All NBA five times. He has now been

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00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: to an NBA Finals and a conference finals. Last year

541
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: he got himself off schedule. He had been on schedule

542
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: each year. So rookie year, Rookie of Rookie year, he's

543
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year, second year first Team All NBA

544
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: awesome in the playoffs, lose as an underdoging Round one.

545
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: Third year first Team All NBA even better in the playoffs,

546
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 2: losing seven to a better team, same team the Clippers

547
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: in round one. Fourth year make the conference finals after

548
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: being first Team All NBA at age twenty three. Okay,

549
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: this is exactly the way an all time great player goes.

550
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: Fifth year first Team All NBA missed the playoffs. Now,

551
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're in trouble, and then six

552
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 2: year got right back on track. And I can show

553
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: you this graphic that we made that Again, it's not

554
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: going to translate to the pod quite as well, but

555
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 2: we can go full screen with it and I'll try

556
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: to explain to the listening audience. On the right hand side.

557
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: What you see is how many first Team All nbas

558
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: the active guys have, so Lebron obviously as the most,

559
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 2: and it's almost an unfair standard. So for Lebron, he's

560
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: got thirteen first Team All NBAS, which is a farce

561
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: almost along with ten finals appearances and four rings. KD

562
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: has right there, he has five or six first Team

563
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: All NBAS and in those first Team All NBA seasons,

564
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: one ring and one other finals appearances. Giannis has six

565
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: first Team All Nbas hardened at six first Team All Nbas,

566
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: and then there is Louuka with five, Steph Ad Joker,

567
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: CP three all have four, Tatum and Guy have three.

568
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: Then if you go to the history of it as

569
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: far as where Luca is twenty four and underseasons, no

570
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: one ever has more First Team All Nbas and the

571
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: only guys with four who have been to the NBA

572
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: Finals are Durant and Duncan. Duncan of course won the title,

573
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: so he is right on track where he should be now.

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00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: So I don't think his legacy takes a hit. I

575
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 2: think this was good for his legacy this season. Now

576
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: Here is where demons asked, did I overrate him? I

577
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: don't think I overrated him. I do think I overestimated

578
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: how good he'd be in this series US. He finishes

579
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: the series twenty nine, nine and six on forty seven

580
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: percent shooting and had a bad three point shooting series,

581
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: real bad shooting twenty four percent from three. He needed

582
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 2: to be better, and while the whole world was killing

583
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: Luca for his defense in Game three, as I tried

584
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: to make the point the MAVs did not lose this

585
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: series because of defense. They lost this series because of offense. Now,

586
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: Boston's defense gets credit for that, but Lucas supposed to

587
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: be the skeleton key to solve all of that, and

588
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: he wasn't able to. In order for the MAVs to

589
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 2: win this series, Luca honestly needed to be thirty five,

590
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: nine and nine and that would have that would have

591
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: given them a fighting chance. I thought he would do that.

592
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: He didn't, So does this make me reevaluate him? Now?

593
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: Now I will say this, finally a little good news

594
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: for Daniel. He doesn't get to be called the best

595
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: player in the league. Uh oh, well, I know that

596
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: was your follow up, de Monze, so we can skip

597
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: that follow up. But no, joker retains the title. I

598
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: felt it was available. If Luca had willed this MAVs

599
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: team to a championship, I would have been comfortable saying

600
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 2: he's the best player in the league. But there's no

601
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 2: one in league history who has held the title best

602
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: player in the League before they either have won an

603
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: MVP or multiple or won a championship. The only possible

604
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: exception would be maybe Lebron at twenty two after he

605
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: got to the finals with that forty eight special, but

606
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: the very next year he won MVP, and I think

607
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 2: most people at that moment still thought it was probably Kobe,

608
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: even if I thought it was Lebron so or maybe

609
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: they thought it was Duncan. So he's not we're not

610
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: able to go him best player in the league. But

611
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 2: he's checked off all the boxes you're supposed to check

612
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: off at age twenty five. And all the guys who

613
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: are you know on that short list, none of them

614
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: were winning titles before age twenty five, except for Magic,

615
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: who had Kareem. Kareem who did win his I think

616
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: at twenty five might have been twenty four his second Yeah,

617
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: I guess he was twenty four second year Bird and

618
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: then Duncan of course.

619
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Speaker 3: But go ahead right with those check if they had

620
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 3: Lebron James I call it twenty sixteen Lebron James on

621
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 3: this team. Do you think they would have been able

622
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 3: to win the series? Because yes, I think that goes

623
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 3: Intead instead of Luca.

624
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 4: Obviously.

625
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 3: I think that goes hand in hand with you saying

626
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: they had the guy. That's what I was saying, like

627
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: the like, hold on, but.

628
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: You got but we gotta be fair. You asked me

629
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: if they had twenty sixteen Lebron, I think they would

630
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: have won the series. Lebron was twenty five though, in

631
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. So if they had O nine Lebron,

632
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: would they have won the series? I think they would have.

633
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: I think they would have done better. I ain't, but

634
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: I don't know that they would have won the series

635
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: because oh nine Lebron, you know, to be fair, he

636
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: hadn't won a title yet either. Now, I here's the

637
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 2: thing for well, let me see the uh well, I'll

638
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: get to that in a second. I but I don't

639
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 2: think I said top ten all time Demanse. I didn't

640
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: say number one all time. So instead of comparing him

641
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 2: to Lebron, let's compare him to if they had twenty

642
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: five year old Kobe. Do I think they would have

643
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: won the series? No? If they had twenty five year

644
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: old Steph, do I think they would have won the series? No?

645
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Speaker 2: If they had twenty five year old check d do

646
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: I think they would have won the series? No? I

647
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: don't twenty five year old Durant. No. You know those

648
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 2: guys who live in that eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve range,

649
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: like I don't think they would have h now again Luca.

650
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: I would give Luca for this series a B minus.

651
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: I don't think he was great. He had great moments,

652
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: but I don't think he was great. Now. Was he

653
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: banged up? Sure, but that gets us to actually believe

654
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: it or not your follow up, So let's go ahead

655
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Speaker 2: and go to your criticism follow up.

656
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, Luca obviously has received a lot of criticism

657
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 3: throughout this series. How do you think that he'll bounce

658
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: back next year?

659
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: So I don't have as big of a problem with

660
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: Luca's defense as everyone else does. I just there is

661
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 2: there is only one guy in league history who was

662
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: asked to run an offense, create all of the shots

663
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: for everyone else, do everything on that end, and be

664
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: a great defender. There's only one guy, and it's Lebron.

665
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: Everyone else Magic was not asked to be a great defender.

666
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: Steph is not asked to be a great defender. Kobe

667
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: was a great defender, but Kobe also was not creating

668
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: offense for other people. Obviously, you know the bigs. It's

669
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: a different story. Bird was a good defender. So if

670
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: we want to say Bird is maybe the closest comp

671
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: that's fine, but Bird was not a great defender, and

672
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: so we have to be fair about what we're asking

673
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: of the guy. So with that said, here is what

674
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: is true, and this demands you're gonna agree with me,

675
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: And I think you're gonna give a Oh now you think,

676
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: now you say it? Take no, no, I mean he again,

677
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 2: he spoon feeds everyone their baskets. This whole, this whole

678
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: idea that he's a that Kyrie thrived with him. If

679
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: you can create your own shot, Luca will defer to you.

680
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: If all you can do is catch lobs or hit threes,

681
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: Lucas gonna have to create for you. So stylistically, I

682
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: don't think he has to change. So I disagree with that.

683
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: But this is the thing that I'm gonna say that.

684
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna be like, yeah, now you now

685
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: you say it. He needs to be in better shape.

686
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: That part is true. I mean he he does need

687
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: to take his conditioning and fitness more seriously. I don't

688
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 2: think he is. I And here's the deal. He is

689
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: in good enough shape to get by if he were

690
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: not asked or wanted to do everything he does offensively.

691
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 2: But run like that The secret to Lebron being able

692
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: to do everything he did on that end of the

693
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: court and be what he was defensively and go to

694
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: AID straight finals and play in one hundred game seasons

695
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: year after year after year after year. Was the guy's

696
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: in the best shape of anyone in the league, and

697
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: Luca is never going to be that, But he needs, in.

698
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 4: What way more shape?

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00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 3: Once upon, as I haven't seen older clips of him,

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00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: he's picked up.

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00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 2: Okay, so I think the clip. So two things. One

702
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: is I think the clip you saw that everyone is

703
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: showing is bubble Luca. So I think that there is

704
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: a distinguishing factor there that everyone has forgotten, which is

705
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: why were they in the bubble Because there was a

706
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: pandemic going on. They were locked in Disney World and

707
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: all they were allowed to do was play basketball. Everyone

708
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 2: was in better shape, every single person in that bubble.

709
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: It's like there's no going out, there's no drinking, there's

710
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 2: no partying. We are just hooping. So I think there

711
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: is that. And this is where I will say the

712
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: injury is not an excuse, But I do think the

713
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: injury a hurt his ability to stay in shape and

714
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 2: the way he would like to and made him appear slower,

715
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 2: but he's obviously carrying a little too much weight. That's fair.

716
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: So to take that next step, he needs to cut.

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00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: Joker did it, and Joker's not in the Jokers like indefatigable,

718
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: but he also he as he is not as heavy

719
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: as he was four years ago, and it helped him.

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00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: And so that is the next step for Luca. Uh so,

721
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: I you know, I is Luca's hookahs closing down. I

722
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: don't know. If they had won the title, then he

723
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: can drink all the beer and smoke all the hook

724
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Speaker 2: he wants. I give himself a few weeks of that,

725
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 2: but then he's got to get back to the gym.

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00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: All right, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: So this Dallas team this year exceeded expectations. Uh do

728
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 3: you expect them to be near this spot anytime soon?

729
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: Tough? I mean they have a Derek Lively was excellent

730
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: as a rookie. Gafford was good, a good acquisition. I

731
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 2: like some of the young pieces, but man, it's hard.

732
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: Everybody thinks we're going to get right back there. You

733
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 2: don't always. And so it is going to take Luca

734
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Speaker 2: getting to a tick. Like Luca at least maintaining, if

735
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 2: not getting a tick better. And then the real wild

736
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 2: card is Kyrie's health. Is Kyrie gonna have a year

737
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: as healthy as this year and where he's healthy in

738
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs? I don't, I don't know. So it's very,

739
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: very difficult to get back. Let's let's ask the chat question.

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Speaker 3: Brandon asked, when is Luca leaving Dallas because of Kyrie?

741
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 4: When is he demanding his trade? You claimed, is that

742
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: still on the table?

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00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 2: So this, Brandon, while I I I appreciate you watching

744
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: the show, Uh, this is something that you know has

745
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 2: been addressed multiple times, which is I have been so

746
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: blown away by Kyrie's maturity, professionalism, all of it over

747
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: the last year and a half that he has correctly

748
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: changed my opinion of him. So you know, I got

749
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: that what last year I picked the MAVs to win

750
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: the championship, and then when they traded for Kyrie. I

751
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: said what Brandon said, I said, which is he's going

752
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: to be you know, when Luca ends up demanding out

753
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: of Dallas, this is going to be one of those dominoes.

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00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: I don't feel that way anymore. I also do not

755
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: feel like one run to the finals all of a

756
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: sudden guarantees Luka mav for life. Giannis won the title,

757
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: and two years later they made a panic trade because

758
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: they thought he was gonna leave. So there are anybody

759
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: claiming that there are multi year horizons guaranteeing someone is

760
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 2: staying somewhere, I think doesn't understand the modern MBA. I

761
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: just don't. So. Right now, the MAVs are in good shape.

762
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 2: But let something go awry next year and all of

763
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: a sudden, that is a massive topic of conversation. Again,

764
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: and so especially, let me check the way Luca's contract works.

765
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: Luca is so, Luca's under contract for two more years

766
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: and then has a player option the following year. The

767
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: point is this next year is a critical year for Dallas.

768
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 2: They go backwards and Luca all of a sudden catches it,

769
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 2: starts catching a ton of heat. Then everything's available once again.

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00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: And I'm not putting that on Kyrie. That is simply

771
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: the reality of the modern NBA. Again, Giannis won the title,

772
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 2: won the title, and within two years the Bucks were

773
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 2: so terrified he was going to demand a trade that

774
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 2: they kind of made a panic move. They fired Boat Budenholtzer,

775
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: they hired Adrian Griffin, They traded Drew Holliday for Damiens

776
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 2: for Damian Lillard, which ended up maybe winning a title

777
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 2: for Boston. It's crazy how things work out. Quick break

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Speaker 2: and to the Caitlin Clerk discussion. I am going to

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Speaker 2: this is I this is my Father's Day present to

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Speaker 2: myself is doing this segment on the air because and

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Speaker 2: any father out there, any parent out there of a

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Speaker 2: young kid, I want you to know. I'm gonna use

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Speaker 2: the quote that I've used before. John Lopez, my old

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00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: radio partner in Houston, one of the best human beings

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00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: I've ever met, told me when Deanna was born. The

805
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: day Deanna was born, every age is the best age.

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00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: And he had kids that were at that point, one

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00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: in just started college, one was finishing college, and one

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00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: who was I think you're right, Jacob, his oldest son,

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Speaker 2: was how old you are?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I think he is. I

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Speaker 2: think Jacob was like twenty five twenty six at the time,

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Speaker 2: and his point was, there isn't a best age, It's

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Speaker 2: just every age is the best. And so I am

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Speaker 2: now I now am a full believer in that philosophy.

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Speaker 2: And nothing made me feel it more than when I

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00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: got Demanse's Father's Day present to me, and so I so,

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Speaker 2: and I loved it demands before I even opened it,

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00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: because you and I, in so many ways are the

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00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 2: same person. So first of all, America, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: cover this. It came in a Priority Express overnight envelope,

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Speaker 2: which this costs thirty dollars. Thirty dollars because much like

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Speaker 2: how I am, instead of going to the post office

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00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: three days early, went the last possible minute and then

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00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: felt a real twinge of guilt. I am certain when

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Speaker 2: you saw, like, wait, when will it get there? If

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Speaker 2: I pay I if this cost me fifty cents, when

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00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: will it get there? Well? Not on time? What if

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Speaker 2: I do the two day shipping, which America always do

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00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 2: the two day it's sometimes cheaper than ground anyway, and

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Speaker 2: it really does get there in two days. Oh, the

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00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: two day will cost nine dollars. Well, damn it, I

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00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 2: think that's gonna be late. What will overnight cost? Overnight's

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Speaker 2: gonna be thirty dollars? All right, screw it, I'll pay it.

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Speaker 2: That is what without knowing, that's what happened. That's what happened.

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Speaker 2: So I got this and then in it is a

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Speaker 2: great card that I won't read, but it is a

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00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 2: great card. But also in the card is fifty dollars

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Speaker 2: cash and an Apple gift card. And I will read

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Speaker 2: one little line which says at the end of it,

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Speaker 2: we should be even, and then some on the clash bill.

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00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 2: And that is for because demon'say, once upon a time

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00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: rolled up quite the charges on Clash of Clans on

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00:56:54,600 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 2: my Apple account, and might occasionally still roll up a

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00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 2: few five dollars charges via Clash of Clans. So he

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00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, what do you get the

847
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 2: man that has everything? How about I pay him back

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00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 2: for some of these iTunes charges that started when I

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00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: was about fifteen and still occasionally show up and so

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00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: much appreciated. I will put this Apple card on the account.

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00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: But it made me so happy seeing that it was

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Speaker 2: an overnight thing and then all of it would go ahead.

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Speaker 2: It made me so happy.

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Speaker 3: Pal, love you, Pop's Happy Father's Day. You got that

855
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 3: on it? You got that Sunday? You got that Saturday

856
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: night or Sunday? Right, you didn't get it. You didn't

857
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 3: get it yesterday? Did you get it yesterday?

858
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: Unfortunately you paid the thirty dollars and it came in

859
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 2: the morning. I know you're mad, I know you're I

860
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: know you're mad. That was the other thing. You paid

861
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 2: all this extra to make sure it would get there

862
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: on time, and they still fried you. They still got

863
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: it to me on Monday, but go ahead.

864
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was funny because we had we had

865
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 3: talked in like you had you hadn't said anything about it,

866
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 3: but I thought it was just you forgot to mention it.

867
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 4: So you did so.

868
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 3: Uh that that iTunes gift card, don't try to put

869
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: it into your phone.

870
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 4: I mean going to the Roffs.

871
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 3: There's been a lot of fraud on the iTunes cards,

872
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: so they don't put money on them, like you can't

873
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 3: literally you literally can't buy them. I put that in

874
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 3: there so you would also like know that.

875
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 4: That was what was fun to.

876
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: Understand, Like the encrypted we should be even on the

877
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 3: clash bill, but that was just like basically set up

878
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 3: like this is what that's for.

879
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, well that's good. It also means

880
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: it also means that the present was half of what

881
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 2: I thought it was. I thought it was one hundred dollars,

882
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: but it was fifty. Because this does say something, but

883
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: now I get it. So this is an unactivated Apple

884
00:58:55,320 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: card to sing I couldn't activate us. I got you

885
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: to signify the fifty dollars cash is for the clash

886
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: of clans. Okay, so be it. That's fair. I also

887
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: I the I that makes me happy actually because I said,

888
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: because I opened it in front of your mom. And

889
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: your mom's so funny. She's like, he's such a good boy,

890
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: like he's twenty five years old. I don't know if

891
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: good boy is the way we should be phrasing it,

892
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: but but I said to her, I was like this

893
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: too much. I was like, this is one hundred and

894
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: thirty dollars you spent on father's And I was like,

895
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: the guy, this guy's working hard for his money. So

896
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: that makes me feel a little bit better. Okay, let's

897
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: get to Caitlyn Clark.

898
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 4: All right.

899
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 3: So Caitlin Clark is trending again after the hard foul

900
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 3: that Angel Reese gave her. She kind of clocked her

901
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 3: in the head, looked like she was going for the ball. Ye,

902
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 3: honest mistake, but the flower the foul was upgraded so

903
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 3: flagrant and even seeing n covered it. U do you

904
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 3: think that this, uh that this is good for Angel

905
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: Reese and Caitlin Clark's rivalry.

906
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:12,439
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's good as long as it doesn't

907
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: mm hmm that screw it. Listen, folks, I gotta we

908
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: gotta have a to steal a line from poker player,

909
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: uh Jaffy his dankness on Twitter. We gotta have an

910
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: uncomfortable conversation, all right, Uh, because folks that are trying

911
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: to chase social media fame or dollars are using Angel

912
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 2: and Caitlin Clark as race war centuries to try to

913
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: fan the flames and get people angry and really make

914
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: it to where if you support Caitlin Clark, you don't

915
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: like black people, and if you support if you don't,

916
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: if you support Angel Reese, you are signifying something about

917
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: how you feel about Caitlin Clark's coverage. And it is

918
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 2: transparent what's happening. And it is also working to the

919
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 2: point to where here's an anecdote for you, Demansey. So everyone,

920
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: not because I think it was so profound, but just

921
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: it will better inform this discussion. If you get a chance,

922
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: go to my Twitter and watch what I said on

923
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 2: TV about the flagrant foul, which wasn't really anything about

924
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: the flagrant foul. It was actually just about the basketball.

925
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 2: Because I look at I always kind of look at

926
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 2: the take landscape and I try to see I'm like,

927
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 2: where is Where's their available real estate? And I'm like, Oh,

928
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 2: there's a weird thing happening with the WNBA, which is

929
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 2: it is being discussed more than ever, and yet I

930
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 2: haven't heard anyone make the point. The Fever actually have

931
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: won after starting zero to five, They've won five of

932
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 2: their last ten, three of their last four. They're not

933
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: playing back to backs anymore. They are currently in the

934
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: playoffs if they started today. And you know, nobody's talking

935
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: about the actual basketball of it. So I'm like, oh,

936
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,959
Speaker 2: that's available real estate. So I'll plant my flag there

937
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 2: because I think it's interesting and if people want the

938
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 2: actual basketball part of it, maybe they'll think of me,

939
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 2: and first things first, that we have interesting things to

940
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 2: say on it. So the reason I say everyone should

941
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: go watch this clip is because I just talked about

942
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: the basketball of it, about how Angel and Caitlin have

943
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: been the two best rookies by far, that they're holding

944
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 2: up their end on the basketball court, that Caitlin is

945
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 2: one of two players in the league averaging at least

946
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: fifteen to five and five one of seven players in

947
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: the league that is in the top twenty five and points,

948
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: rebounds and assists and that, yeah, that is a that's

949
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 2: a flagrant foul inasmuch as intent doesn't matter if you

950
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 2: hit him in the head. So I don't think Angel

951
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 2: was targeting Caitlyn's head. But I think the way the

952
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 2: rule is written, forcible contact to the head, even if

953
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: it's part of a basketball play, is a flagrant one,

954
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: not a flagrant two, but a flagrant one. So I

955
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: don't think Angel was out of luck. I also think

956
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: it was a flagrant. I also think it's pretty clear

957
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 2: that that is a real, real rivalry. My old speech

958
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 2: impediment just caught up to me for the first time

959
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 2: in a long time, something people may or may not

960
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 2: know about me. I used to not be able to

961
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 2: say my r's or my l's, so words like real

962
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 2: and rivalry or world anything with an R and an

963
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 2: L together. Rivalry is a tough one. We got an

964
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 2: R on the front end era for that. Except for

965
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: that and then real rivalry, I was, I mean, all

966
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I flashed back thirty years to speech

967
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: therapy try to get it together. I was like, how

968
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: do you do that one? But uh, they have a

969
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: real rivalry Okay, that's good. I have heard for so long.

970
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: You know what's wrong with the NBA. Everybody's two buddy, buddy,

971
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 2: these girls ain't They had a rivalry in college. It

972
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 2: is extended to the pros it it's great. And do

973
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 2: are there underlying racial dynamics to it? Yes? There are,

974
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: even if for even if there isn't for either one

975
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 2: of them specifically, they exist. The coverage the Iowa women's

976
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 2: team got after losing to the LSU women's team, the

977
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: coverage the LSU women's team got, you know where. They

978
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,479
Speaker 2: tried to invite the Iowa women's team to the White

979
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 2: House as well, even though they hadn't won the title.

980
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 2: The way the LSU women's team was painted compared to

981
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 2: the Iowa women's team last year, there, of course, race

982
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: played a part in it. You would be insane to

983
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 2: act like it didn't, Okay, but you have to be

984
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: able to acknowledge that and then also acknowledge that Caitlin

985
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: Clark is excellent. This idea that she is some white

986
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: girl media creation, like as if she is some on

987
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 2: a corner coova of old reference of the WNBA is

988
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 2: belied by the fact that games are played and she

989
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 2: puts up numbers and she is now contributing to winning.

990
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: And then if you wanted to act like Angel Reese

991
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: is more celebrity than player and she that is belied

992
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 2: by the fact that she is averaging the second most

993
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 2: points of any rookie in the WNBA, only to Caitlin,

994
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 2: and the most rebounds of any rookie in the WNBA.

995
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: They have both been excellent. So here's why this whole

996
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 2: thing has gone off the rails. And this was the

997
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 2: point I was gonna make to you, and I interrupted

998
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: myself three times. That was a classic meme moment. I

999
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 2: went on like six tangents within my own point. The

1000
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 2: reason I said watch my clip from yesterday is my

1001
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 2: clip is just talking basketball and people demands slid into

1002
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: your mother's DMS saying, essentially, I hope what your husband

1003
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:25,479
Speaker 2: said about Angel Reyese yesterday opened your eyes to how

1004
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: all white people really think about us like a real Hey,

1005
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: he's not on the right side on this. And when

1006
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: it comes to this topic, everyone is exposing themselves. And

1007
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: the reason that was even worth mentioning is because I

1008
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 2: believe the social media bad actors and the media in

1009
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: some ways and some of our politicians have succeeded in

1010
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: making this where you must pick aside along racial lines.

1011
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 2: If you want to present yourself as someone that is

1012
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 2: in favor of social justice and equality and causes that

1013
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 2: many of us have a longstanding history of being on

1014
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 2: the correct side of, you must then go on TV

1015
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 2: and say Angel Reese has handled everything perfectly and basically

1016
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark is a whiny baby. Even though Caitlin has

1017
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 2: never complained about any of it. All she's done is say,

1018
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 2: it's basketball, we play hard. I like, I don't. I

1019
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 2: can't speak to the biggest Caitlin Clark fans. I can't,

1020
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: and a lot of might be out of their minds.

1021
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 2: But that's not tell me if you disagree with me.

1022
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 2: To Monsey, that's not Caitlin's fault. The fact that she

1023
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 2: that there are people who are now bad actors in

1024
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 2: the other direction who are saying she is being targeted

1025
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: because she's white, or saying that she was left off

1026
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: the Olympic team because there's an anti Caitlin conspiracy, which

1027
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:29,520
Speaker 2: is really an anti white conspiracy. Those people are objectively insane,

1028
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 2: But that's not on her. I don't think that's on

1029
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 2: her when she has answered every question the right way,

1030
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 2: and I will not I personally will not allow these

1031
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: social media charlatans to win where they have made a

1032
01:09:52,560 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 2: clear obvious goal of making this be a racial dividing

1033
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 2: line pick aside. I think that's bullshit, and I think

1034
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: it's toxic, and I am here saying I think these

1035
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 2: two young women have either one of them handled it

1036
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: all perfectly if I were handling it for them, No,

1037
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 2: if I were. If I were handling it for Caitlin,

1038
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 2: I would have taken a more vocal stance earlier about

1039
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 2: her name being used for devisive purposes she eventually did.

1040
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 2: I would have done it a little earlier. And if

1041
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: I were handling things for Angel, I would have talked

1042
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 2: with her about, Hey, we got to decide do we

1043
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 2: want to be the villain or do we not? Because

1044
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 2: like there are at times it feels like she's straddling,

1045
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 2: Like after this last game when she there was a

1046
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 2: little bit of a the refs took control of the game, Like,

1047
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 2: that's not villain behavior. Villain behavior as I went for

1048
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,520
Speaker 2: a block, Sorry, I hit her in the head. It's basketball,

1049
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like owning it, owning it,

1050
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: So I don't think either one has handled it perfectly,

1051
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't expect anyone in their early twenties with

1052
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 2: this level of scrutiny and fame to handle anything perfectly.

1053
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 2: But I like them both. They were both dope as

1054
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: hell in college, they're both being they are en route

1055
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: to being dope as hell in the WNBA and this

1056
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 2: whole thing where you've got And I never both sides

1057
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 2: things because typically when it comes to important issues, I

1058
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 2: happen to think one side is batten about nine hundred

1059
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 2: and the other sides batten about one hundred. So I

1060
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 2: don't like both sides of it on this one. I

1061
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 2: think there have been some very influential bad actors on

1062
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 2: both sides. There are obvious ones on the Caitland side

1063
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 2: of things, Nikki Haley, that stupid congress person in Indiana

1064
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 2: that was trying to pass a law related to Caitlin Clark.

1065
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 2: Those folks are obvious. And then there are folks that,

1066
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 2: to me, are more subtle about it, just clearly trying

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Speaker 2: to turn, if you will, sections of Black America against

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark, and I find it it is so disappointing.

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Speaker 2: And so that's my take on This is more about

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Speaker 2: how it is being covered and how people are consuming it.

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Speaker 2: And I and I'm gonna add one other thing. The

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Speaker 2: fact that people now get a check or a direct

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Speaker 2: deposit if their tweets getting agement, I think is a

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Speaker 2: wildly damaging phenomenon. It incentivizes in a way we've not

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Speaker 2: just like oh, I can grow a following and then

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Speaker 2: maybe sell it off one day, like Dove Climban allegedly did.

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Speaker 2: But no, you get a literal direct deposit from Twitter,

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Speaker 2: depending if you're you know, pay for the blue check

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Speaker 2: mark or get the blue check mark, you get money

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Speaker 2: in your account. It depending on how much engagement your

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Speaker 2: suff gits each month. It it yes, correct, It just

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Speaker 2: incentivizes bad behavior. It and there there's the banal bad behavior,

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Speaker 2: which is one of those anonymous and the NBA aggregator

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Speaker 2: accounts tweeting out oh man, the Sam Houser sweepstakes. This

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Speaker 2: summer is gonna be bananas where you tweet things just

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Speaker 2: trying to get dunked on like that. It's become a

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Speaker 2: thing because you can get paid off that. But then

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Speaker 2: there's way worse, which is, you know, trying to fan

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Speaker 2: the flames of racial disunity. So I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it one little bit. So, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: it's almost noon. Okay, well I've screwed up the clock

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Speaker 2: once again. Quick break right back, What's Right? Welcome back

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Speaker 2: let's get to a question that I wanted to get

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Speaker 2: to last week but we didn't have time, and apologies.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do the same thing on Thursday with some

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Speaker 2: of your questions from today. We've just been running late

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Speaker 2: on all these shows and I have to get to TV. Demante,

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Speaker 2: go ahead and read the question.

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Speaker 3: I think Cooper asks or says Lucas Josh Allen. He's

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Speaker 3: simultaneously their only chance and the reason they can't win.

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Speaker 2: So Brent Hanks, great poker broadcaster, formerly great poker player,

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Speaker 2: but he's lost his fastball considerably. Brent Hanks made this.

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Speaker 2: He's a diehard Buffalo Bills fan. He made this comp

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Speaker 2: to me and you can follow him on Twitter at

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Hanks. Tell him that I'm talking about him. Made

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Speaker 2: this comp to me months ago, that Luke is Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen and I love one and crushed the other, and

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Speaker 2: that I that I need to see the similarities on

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Speaker 2: its face. I understand the similarities, which is wow. He

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Speaker 2: does all these things well, but then also there are

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Speaker 2: some drawbacks. He's not the best, but is he the

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Speaker 2: second best? I get all of that. The way though

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Speaker 2: he would be the comp would work is if Luca

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Speaker 2: hadn't made this NBA final, and it was because he

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Speaker 2: just keeps losing to the same guy year after year

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Speaker 2: after year. That of course, is not Lucas story. That is, however,

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen's story. So I understand the surface level comps,

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Speaker 2: but not past that. By the way, speaking of poker,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do a pod Thursday. We are not gonna

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Speaker 2: do a pod Tuesday because I'm gonna be in Vegas

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Speaker 2: playing in the World Series of Poker, playing in a

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Speaker 2: few events, programming update live on the fly. Found out. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that I was gonna be doing that

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Speaker 2: because if there was a Game seven of the finals,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna be able to go. But no Game seven,

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Speaker 2: which means I'm actually not on TV Monday, Tuesday or

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Speaker 2: Wednesday because of the Euros. So instead of taking five

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Speaker 2: days to rest and recuperate, I'm flying to Vegas to

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Speaker 2: play poker. See you guys Thursday, See you on TV

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Speaker 2: in about an hour with Colin see on my show

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Speaker 2: in about three hours.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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