1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Goals Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive. I'm 3 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson and Matt we're going 4 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: over the UH top ten lists on the ESPN of 5 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: the top ten players. It lists Jeremy Fowler put together 6 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: by polling fifty league personnel members. And we're now moving 7 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: over to the offense and UH. The first look here 8 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: is at interior offensive lineman. Again, the Steelers not represented 9 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: on this one, but would it surprise you in if 10 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: his Steelers interior offensive lineman made it onto this list. No, 11 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: I honestly think James Daniels might even be others receiving 12 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: votes already, and you know that's always a position. It 13 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: takes a year or two to truly get recognized. Maybe 14 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: the change of scenery opened some eyes. I think he's 15 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: very much on this path. And to be honest, I'm 16 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: not predicting it, but I think Green and Dots and 17 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: are capable of getting on this list. Like when we 18 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: talked tackles, I'm not gonna say Dan Moore and Schoops 19 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: can get on the list. I don't think they can, 20 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,919 Speaker 1: you know, but I think all three of those guys 21 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: could Yeah, I agree with that, looking at the also 22 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: receiving votes for Rodney Hudson the Cardinals and Tray Smith 23 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: of the Chiefs, where he couldn't be on opposite two 24 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: more opposite ends of the specter there right, one of 25 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: them about sixty pounds eavier and the other and one's 26 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: about fifteen years older than the other. Yeah. Um. The 27 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: guys who were honorable mentions were Elijah Vera Tucker of 28 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: the Jets, Eric McCoy of the Saints Lake and Tomlinson 29 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: of the Jets. Frank rag now the of the Alliance, 30 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey of the Chiefs, and Ryan Kelly of the Colts. 31 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: As much hump hype as Humphrey's got, I'm glad he's 32 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: not in the top ten, you know. I'm I'm fine 33 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: with an honorable mention here, and even Tray Smith next 34 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: to him and Vera Tucker, you know, I mean, this 35 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: is a longevity position. You know, I need to count 36 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: on you. Show me I can count on you game 37 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: after game, year after year, and you know they just 38 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: haven't been in the league long enough for that. Yeah, 39 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: I agree with that. Number ten is Corey Linsley, the 40 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: center for the Chargers, highest ranking number four, lowest ranking 41 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: out of the top ten. They gave him big money. 42 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: They're happy with it. I mean, it's one of those 43 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: rare free agent signings where the dollars add up to 44 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: the play and the production and some leadership. With all 45 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: these young linemen they've drafted lately too, so no quality 46 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: quality starter. Number nine is Wyatt Teller of the Browns, 47 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: highest ranking, number four, lowest out of the top ten. 48 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: Last year, he was an honorable menching guy. There's some 49 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: interesting stats on him in here, though. Mhm. He had 50 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: ten penalties last year and four sacks allowed. Like I 51 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: don't know, like if he were if you were on 52 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: the Steelers line instead of the Browns line, mh, and 53 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: he had four four sacks allowed and ten penalties. I 54 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: don't know that people will be talking about him in 55 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: this top ten. I think. I think he's a little 56 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 1: bit of a pro football focused creation. I think really 57 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: well for them two years in a row. So everyone 58 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: likes to sound smart and be like this guy you 59 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: never heard of. Why I tell her that the bill's cut. 60 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: You know it is better than you think, because I'm smart, 61 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, because last year's numbers Yeah, last year, his 62 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: numbers are two years ago, his numbers were very similar. 63 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: A bunch of sacks, bunch of penalties, but boy, he 64 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: grades aren't really well in the run game. Well that's great, 65 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: but but if he gets a bunch of penalties, like 66 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: ten penalties is a lot. There's a lot, there's a lot. 67 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: He's one of the few linemen that actually have a 68 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: fun highlights. You know, he's he's progressively various people. That's great, 69 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: that's that's great, you know, but I don't think he'd 70 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: be a top ten player for me. Number eight is 71 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey, still getting done, highest ranking number three, lowest 72 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: ranking out of the top ten for him. Yeah, he's 73 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: maybe getting by on reputation a little, but including Pouncey 74 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: and Mac and those guys, I think Kelsey is probably 75 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: the best center of this generation. But very unique. I 76 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: mean he's old and he's tiny, but I mean a 77 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: few players have played the position like him over the years. Yeah. 78 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Number seven is Elton Jenkins of the Packers. Um, can 79 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: you put him as an interior offensive lineman this year? 80 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: Played a lot of tackle last year. I think he's 81 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: projected to be the right tackle this year. That's the 82 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: beauty of him as you can play him anywhere and 83 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: he's very, very good at all of them. Every line 84 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: coach in the world would love to have him because 85 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't lose, you know, going from left to right 86 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: or guard tackle or whatever. But how much or what 87 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: he is, I guess he has to be on one 88 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: of these lists. Yeah. Number six is Ryan Jensen of 89 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, highest ranking, number two, lowest out of the 90 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: top ten. UM. Look at his again, these are pro 91 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: football focuses metrics UM. His ninety two point four percent 92 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: pass block win rate was twenty three among centers last year. 93 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: His run block win rate was seven. He had five 94 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: penalties last year. He's a trend setter, a leader as 95 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: toughest could be type of dude. But I think him. 96 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: And who's the left tackle from Penn State at Tampa 97 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: Bay Walkers that is named Smith? Yeah? Smith art as 98 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: good as they look. It's Brady makes him look yeah 99 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Worf's is as good as he looks. Those 100 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: two are okay, but they're not elite. Yeah. Number five 101 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: is Joel Bottonio highest rankie number one, lowest ranking out 102 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: of the top ten. M. I think he's clearly the 103 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: best Browns guard. I do too, but I mean this 104 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: is a trend with that team, and we've brought it 105 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: up before his contract goes crazy next year. This might 106 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: be the last year of Gubtonio And yeah, I agree. Uh. 107 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: Number four is Joe Thuney or the Chiefs highest ranking 108 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: number two, lowest ranking number seven. Uh. They gave him 109 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: a ton of money. His past block win rate led 110 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: all guards last year according your Pro Football Focus. Um, 111 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: his run block in grade wasn't quite as high, but 112 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: still a really good player. And well, they don't run 113 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: the football that much, so it's all about the past blocking, right. 114 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: And they got what they paid for, you know. I mean, 115 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: he unbelievably durable, definitely much more of a he's he 116 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: plays a position more like a tackle than a traditional guard. Yeah, 117 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: which is what they did, which is exactly what they need. Yeah. 118 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: Number three is Brandon Sure for the Jaguars. He of 119 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: course moves over from Washington. They gave him a three year, 120 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: forty nine point five million dollar deal. Uh, and he's 121 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: he's good, but he's also good. There's a there's a 122 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: trend here that most of these players are thirty or above. 123 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking the same thing like for the Jags, 124 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: and let's make Lawrence as good as he possibly can be. 125 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: I understand the signing. There's very little insure history to 126 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: suggests he's gonna be a bust like when they signed Norwell, 127 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: he's coming off one good year, but he's thirty. He's 128 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: missed time. They probably won't be as good for the 129 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: Jags as he was for Washington. Yeah, no, I agree. 130 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: Number two is Zack Martin. High number one, lowest, lowest, 131 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: number seven. Um. I think he's a moonwalk into the 132 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame type of guard. Yeah. I don't know 133 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: if he's still number two though, No, and I'm not sure. 134 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll get the tackles at some point, but 135 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: Tyrone Smith still looks great, Martin still looks great. But 136 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: those two stalwarts and Frederick's all gone. You know, they're 137 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: on the back nine, to be kind with those top 138 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: Dallas line. Yeah, I agree, And that leaves number one 139 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson highest, Frankie number one, lowest, number three. Um, 140 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: I think he's still one. I mean yeah, I think 141 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: he gets a little overrated. You know, as guards go, 142 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: if guards can get overrated, and I don't know that 143 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: a minute one you know, I don't know that he's 144 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: Alan Fannik or Steve Hutchinson. Yeah yeah, you know, like 145 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: our Our Corner conversational last segment, I think Jalen Ramsay 146 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: is a better case for number one and then everybody 147 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: else than Nelson does to be won at guard and 148 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: everybody else. You know, yeah great. I mean he looks 149 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: like a Hall of Fame type guy too, but I 150 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: don't know that he's and he probably he probably will be, 151 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: because he's here's the thing with him, he's he's he's 152 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: reached this pinnacle already. He's gonna be an all pro 153 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: pretty much every year time, so he'll end up being 154 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Um, but a lot of that, 155 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: you know sometimes, I mean when he's lined up against 156 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: Cam Heyward, he Cam Heyward has given him fits. Oh yeah, yeah, 157 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: now Heywardyward. You know, hey we'll do that against most guards, 158 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: the Browns guards or whoever. Right, But that's just no, 159 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: he does, doesn't you know, like the term shutdown corner 160 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: or I've you I've used this example of many time 161 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: with offensive Lineman, the Euros, with the Browns. I was 162 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: in charge of the NFC West and honestly This isn't like, 163 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, exaggerating Orlando Pace and Walter Jones in that 164 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: era the second half, those guys just stopped rushing them 165 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: because they hadn't they didn't think they had any chance 166 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: to win. Yeah, you just give up. Nelson thought like 167 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: at that level, you know, we'll roll through the quarterbacks here, 168 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: We're quit real quick. Because of course the Steelers don't 169 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: have anybody on this list here, but it is an 170 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: interesting list others receiving votes. The only one who did 171 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: was Kirk Cousins. The honorable mentions were Kyler Murray, Derek 172 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: Carr in Lamar Jackson finishing out of the top ten. 173 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah again, And I actually went over this list on 174 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: my other podcast as well, and to me, there's really 175 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: a top eleven when we go through these, including Lamar, 176 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: and I guess he just missed. With their point system 177 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: and the world's up in arms, how could you not 178 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: have Lamar in the top ten. But really, I think 179 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: in this case there should be a top eleven draw line, 180 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: and I think Carr and Murray deserve to be in 181 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: their own category at twelve and thirteen, and there's nobody 182 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: else really challenging those two. And what it comes down 183 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: to with Lamar to me, is they included Watson? You know, 184 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that I would even put 185 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Watson on this list. They included Watson, So Lamar got 186 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: umped to eleven. I don't know that he has a 187 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: case that's clear and obvious over the top ten. But 188 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: it amazed me when I heard the headline Lamar Jackson 189 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: wasn't in the top ten. Like, while he's the top 190 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: ten quarterback, I'd hate to play against him, But the 191 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: other guys are equal. You know, somebody had to be 192 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: short changed a little bit. Tim was Dak Prescott, Eight 193 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: was DeShawn Watson, I'm sorry. Nine was the Shawn Watson. 194 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: Eight was Russell Wilson. At Lamar's right with those guys. Yeah, 195 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: At seven is justin Herbert uh At six is Matthew Stafford. 196 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: Five is Joe Burrow. One thing I said is I 197 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: would have Herbert over Burrow. I would too Forrest tom Brady, 198 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: three Josh Allen to Patrick Mahomes, and one is still 199 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Um, so that's the that's that position. Moving 200 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: on the running backs. Some Steeler representation here m hm, 201 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: and looking at the honorable mentions, you got Uh, also 202 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: receiving votes for Josh Jacobs, Miles Sanders, Antonio Gibson Uh. 203 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: The honorable mentions were Austin Ekelar a real it's not 204 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: a real start sterling group there with others even vote 205 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: no Austin ekelarsk Elliott and say Kwam Barkley. We're all 206 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: guys who got honorable mentions. At number ten, Javonte Williams. 207 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: Is it too early for that? Because it came down 208 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: to him, Jeremy said, I mean, I just think if 209 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: you look at the overall body of work, I love 210 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: Javonte Williams, as I know you do as well, but 211 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: its hard it was asked of both players. Last season 212 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: is very different. Number nine Aaron Aaron Jones. I appreciate that. 213 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm a most surprised that low though mm his highest 214 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: ranking was number six, his lowest ranking out of the 215 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: top ten. I think he's in store for a massive season, 216 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, like he's a He's gonna be a lot 217 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: of my fantasy teams. I'm targeting him even though he's 218 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: twenty seven. I still think the arrow is pointing up 219 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: for him, which is rare for running back to say 220 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: about a running back Number eight is Nausea Harris. His 221 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: highest ranking number three is lowest ranking out of the 222 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: top ten. I'll be honest, I was shocked he was 223 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: in the top ten. I mean, there's so many backs 224 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: in the league. You know, Zeke wasn't there. Who doesn't 225 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: belong to be you know, Ekeler wasn't there. I'm must 226 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: saying I have a problem with it. I just didn't 227 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: expect it. Uh. Number seven is Christian McCaffrey, highest ranking five, 228 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: lowest out of the top ten. I guess you have 229 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: to have him this low, but I mean when he's right, 230 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: he has a case for being number one. He just 231 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: hasn't been right the last two years, and he is. 232 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: He is now twenty six. Number six is Joe Mixing, 233 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: highest ranking number one, lowest ranking out of the top ten. 234 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: Um solid back, yeah, solid back. Yeah. I mean this 235 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: might be a little rich for me on Mixing, but um, 236 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: you know we're splitting hairs. Number five is Alvin Kamara, 237 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: highest ranking, number one, lowest ranking, number ten. He's a 238 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: tough one. The he's almost a uh not. Last year 239 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: he got the carries, but he also averaged three point 240 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: seven yards per carry. Yeah, that was a rough offense too, 241 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean no passing game. I think he's on a 242 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame pace. I mean catches eighty balls every year. 243 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: These have been suspended probably for six games though probably. Yeah. 244 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: Number four Dalvin Cook highest Rankie, number one, lowest, number eight, um, 245 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,599 Speaker 1: just to really think, Yeah, I think he's on a 246 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame pace, not slowing down. I mean you 247 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: say hall of Fame pace, I mean they gotta do 248 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: it at that position. You need four more years though, 249 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: you need Yeah, you need to string you know six, 250 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, six good seasons together and that stuff to do. 251 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: Number three and Nick Chubb highest Frankie, number one, lowest ranking, 252 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: number seven. I mean Henry is obviously gonna be ahead 253 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: of him, but these non receiving backs, I would have 254 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: probably been a little harsher on it. Yeah, I agree. 255 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: Number two Jonathan Taylor, he'd be one for me. I 256 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: think i'd have them one as well, especially considering the 257 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: number one Derrick Henry missed half the season. Yeah, like, 258 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: Henry is not gonna be on any of my fantasy teams. 259 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: But I you recognize the that he's he's a unicorn 260 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: special player. Yeah, he's a game changer and very few teams. 261 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: I guess the Cults are one of them, though, really 262 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: the offense is extremely running back centric and Tennessee's night 263 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: and day when he's on the field or not. The 264 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver rankings, Uh if we look at the also 265 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: others receiving votes here, Uh, that's where Deante Johnson shows up, 266 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: along with Adam Pheeland, Tyler Lockett, Odell Beckham, and Tee Higgins. 267 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's a pretty good group. Yeah, it is. Uh, 268 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: the guys who just missed the list. The honorable mentions 269 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: were Keenan Allen, A. J. Brown, Terry McLaurin, Chris Gobwin, 270 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, Ceedee Lamb, and Mike Williams. Have a hard 271 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: time following because my computer is not loading for some 272 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: reason at this page. But I remember looking at these 273 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: and not having a real fight with any of them. Um, 274 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: I think you said Michael Thomas's name though, Yeah, I 275 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: have a hard time with that one. I mean, he 276 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: doesn't play. He hasn't played in two years, right, and 277 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: there's no reports of him. Oh he's thriving at mini 278 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: camp like there's still just as many questions about the guy. Yeah. 279 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: Number ten was dk Metcalfe. Number nine was Deebo Samuel. 280 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: That's a tough, tough call there between those two. Yeah, boy, 281 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: there's some good receivers in the leg Yeah, number eight, 282 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: Mike Evans, number seven, DeAndre Hopkins, uh number six, Stefon 283 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: Diggs number five, Tyreek Hill number four, Justin Jefferson number three, 284 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase number two, Cooper Cup. It's hard hard p 285 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup number two. After the season he had last year. Yeah, 286 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's maybe maybe the best season a receiver 287 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: has ever had, ever had. But to Adams is awfully good. 288 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: I get it. Davante Adams number one, hundred catches, forty 289 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: seven yards and sixteen touchdowns. That's me. Those are Megatron numbers. Oh, 290 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: they're the best. It's the best season we've ever seen, 291 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: except for maybe that Calvin Johnson year. Like you said, 292 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: it's hard to not have him one, but he might 293 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: not have been the top ten a year ago, where 294 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,239 Speaker 1: Adams definitely was. Let me see where they had him 295 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: last year. He was an honorable mention, So yeah, I 296 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: get it. I mean, it's that's kind of it. Moving 297 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: on the tight ends, this one is interesting. Um, if 298 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: you're looking at the others receiving votes for the honorable mention. 299 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: You got Mike Kasicki, Pat Frearmouth, zach Ertz, David and Joeku. 300 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: Also receiving votes were Johnny Smith, Tyler Higbee, c j 301 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: ism Noah fant In, Austin Hooper, Fire Moose already getting 302 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: that kind of recognition around the league, And in fact, 303 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: I would have had him on the list ahead of 304 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: number ten me too. And there's a lot of names 305 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: there that are just average football players, you know, c 306 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: J is Oma, Tyler, Austin Hooper. Know, like these guys 307 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: are changing teams and nobody's missing him, you know. Yeah. 308 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: Number ten was Hunter Henry. He did nothing last year. 309 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: He would not be in my top tad. Yeah, I 310 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: respect what he's done in his career. But No. Number 311 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: nine Dawson Knox. Okay, I mean, I don't know he's 312 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: the top ten player if he were a Steeler and 313 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: Friar Muth was a Bill, you know what I mean? Yeah? 314 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: Right right? Number eight your favorite, Dalton Schultz. Yeah, I mean, 315 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: he's had a really good year, so he should be 316 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: the top ten. I just think he's going to be 317 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: kind of a flash in the pan and when everyone's 318 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: aware of him, he'll get exposed a little bit. Number 319 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: seven t J. Hawkinson. It sounds like they're trying to 320 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: extend him as we speak, which it makes perfect sense 321 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: to me. I expected a little more out of his career, 322 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, at this point. But it's not like he's disappointing. No. 323 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: I think he's really really good football player. Number six 324 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard. I think those two are really similar. I 325 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: don't think who had picked between the two of them. 326 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: Number five is Kyle Pitts. Will be number one in 327 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: a month, but he can't put I do. I don't know. 328 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean the top four are pretty really good. They're 329 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: really good. I know four is Mark Andrews. Yeah. Three 330 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: is Darren Waller. Got the Andrews over Waller, but I 331 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: think I think Pitts will move ahead of Waller this 332 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: year because Waller is going to get quite as many 333 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: targets this year. He's twenty nine too. Yeah. Uh. Two 334 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: is Travis Kelsey and one is George Kittle. I was 335 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: happy Kiddle got the nod over Kelsey. I mean what 336 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: Kelsey's done is historic. I mean unbelievable production, year after 337 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: year after year. No um dip at all. I think 338 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: the DIP's coming, but it hasn't yet. But the fact 339 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: of Kindles a nasty blocker, to me, would make him 340 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: number one. I'm glad somebody still cares about Yeah that 341 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: does you know. You look at the rest of these 342 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: guys and there's a lot of pass catchers on there. Now. 343 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: If we're having this conversation next year, where do you 344 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: think fire Moose can can jump up to? Um? I 345 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: think I think I think he can get up to 346 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: like number six. That's why I say I think him, 347 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: Goddard and Hawkinson will be a really good conversation a 348 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: year from now. Yeah, I love those two. Yeah, I 349 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the case. But I do think 350 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: he'll be a top ten player at the position next 351 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: year perennially, you know, year after here, and I think 352 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: Hawkinson and Gottard will too, especially if he improves the 353 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: blocking part of his game, right, I mean he'll go 354 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: past the Schultzes and Knoxes and those type of guys. Yeah. Yeah, 355 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: he's more of a complete tight end. Uh. That brings 356 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: us the offensive tackles. Obviously, we mentioned earlier the Steelers 357 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: don't have an offensive tackle on this list. If you're 358 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: looking at the the guys who got votes here, this 359 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: is a big this is a long list. Two also 360 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: receiving votes from McKay, Beckton, Brandon Smith, Dion Dawkins, Donovan 361 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: Smith and Lael Collins. The guys the guys who got 362 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: honorable mentions Orlando Brown, Piney Sewell, Jordan's Malatta, Taylor LaJuan, 363 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: Colton Miller, Taylor Moten, and Brian O'Neill. I really think 364 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: Seul and Malatta will be in the top ten next year. 365 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: Some of them, like a guy like Taylor Lawan is 366 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: is just a name. Yeah, I mean he's not great anymore. 367 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: Number ten to Ron Armstead, I thought he'd be higher. 368 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: But you gotta be on the field, right, you gotta play. Yeah. 369 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: Number nine Ryan Ramsack, I think he's been so solid. 370 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: He's like that safety conversation we had. I don't know 371 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: what's wrong with them. I mean, just been plugged in 372 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: a right tackles forever and it's one of the top 373 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: two or three the right tackles in the league every year. Yeah. 374 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: Number Number eight's a tough one for me because Ronnie 375 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: Stanley and he has he hasn't played in two years, 376 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, like Tradavis White couldn't get in the top ten. Well, 377 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: here's the thing, what's the difference his highest rank, His 378 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: highest ranking was second. Who the hell ranked him second 379 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: when he hasn't played in two years? Yeah? Yeah, I 380 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: mean he could be second next her, and I'll he 381 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: plays all seventeen games this year, fine, but the guy 382 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: hasn't played he was. Yeah. Number seven is Lane Johnson. 383 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: He's he's had some injuries too, and suspensions I think 384 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: for p ds, but he's been legal a long time 385 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: now and he's kind of like that ramp check of 386 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: not many bright tackles of this year or have been 387 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: at his level. Number six is Laramie Tunsil. Okay, I 388 00:22:54,320 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: mean Number five is Tyrant Smith either at his best, 389 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: He's one of the better tackles I've ever seen. It's 390 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: just I feel like they're keeping it together with duct 391 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: tape right now. Yeah, right, number of sack injuries and 392 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: things like that. Number four is Rashaan Slater already. Wow, 393 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: he's had some pretty good established thirty year old name 394 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: type guys um a little early, but man, I mean 395 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: I wish he was a Steeler. Number three David Buckyari. Yeah, 396 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: that's deserved. Yeah, really good player. Number two is Tristian Wharfs. 397 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: I like it. I'm totally cool with that, still just 398 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: twenty three years old. I mean, if I had any 399 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: lineman in the league, he would be my pick. And 400 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: then number one is Trent Williams. That's another one. I 401 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: don't think it's super close. Yeah, that he has become 402 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: a totally dominant superstar and gets better every year at 403 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: thirty three. I mean, go YouTube his highlights. He throws 404 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: people around. Yeah, he's like a bouncer. Mh. But that 405 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: was the ESPN Top ten lists. Of course we went 406 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: over the previous ones earlier. Uh, that was the offensive 407 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: side of things. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lawley. 408 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. 409 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. We'll be right back with 410 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: more right after this.