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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, This is mick Shot,

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Speaker 1: streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: After now Here are Bill Jones, Savannah Humuller, Everson Wolves,

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Speaker 2: and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: And Welcome to Mickshots, presented by Miller Lte, the only

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Speaker 3: beer of the Cowboys. It's Miller time, It's Mickey time.

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Speaker 3: And here we are, the Monday after all, back together again,

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Speaker 3: the Monday after what we must win? We will win.

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Speaker 3: When is the name of the game? Where were you

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Speaker 3: thirty five years ago? Last night?

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Speaker 4: What the hell happened? Thirty five years ago?

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Speaker 2: You got it? Just told you?

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Speaker 3: Owner and head coach, February twenty fifth, nineteen telling me, Chris,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell he's talking February twenty fifth,

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Speaker 3: nineteen nine. Walls your life changed.

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Speaker 5: Well it was about Okay, that's the case. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 5: right about that. If I know what it is now,

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Speaker 5: you're right there, you go. Yeah, for the good though,

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Speaker 5: for the good though, adventure.

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Speaker 6: I was sitting in the press conference and yourself, where

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Speaker 6: were you?

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Speaker 3: I was in San Antonio actually working in San Antonio.

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Speaker 3: I didn't come here until nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 6: So they didn't ship you here for in Savanna Humuller,

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Speaker 6: where were you.

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Speaker 5: There?

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Speaker 6: You got it of her parents, imagine parents.

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Speaker 3: Yet yes whenever. In fact, I did not realize it

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Speaker 3: was February twenty fifth until I looked at my watch

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Speaker 3: and I saw I was a twenty fifth. This is

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Speaker 3: your day. So it bought the Cowboys thirty five years

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Speaker 3: ago yesterday.

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Speaker 6: It was also Frank Lux's birthday?

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Speaker 3: Was it really in his his which was a Saturday?

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Speaker 3: So his birthday party got destroyed Saturday night at.

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Speaker 6: Valley Bridge, although we did after everybody finished their stories,

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Speaker 6: we reconvened in tech Shram's office. And you know the

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Speaker 6: the weird part about the press conference? Did you happen

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Speaker 6: to listen to it?

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Speaker 3: Ever?

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Speaker 4: Since I did not?

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Speaker 6: It was it was no and I don't think it

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Speaker 6: was live.

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Speaker 3: I think it was well I was in San Antonio,

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Speaker 3: but I assume it was carried by the local TV

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Speaker 3: stations here. So it was a real that monumental moment.

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Speaker 6: It was a real weird thing because on one hand,

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Speaker 6: you had the Jones family kind of celebrate. It was

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Speaker 6: a big deal, right, Yeah, although holding their breath because

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Speaker 6: they just spent all their money to buy the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: And then next to it was tech Shram and it

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Speaker 6: was like.

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Speaker 4: A funeral, yes, right that I do remember.

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Speaker 6: The twenty nine years that the you know, organization had

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Speaker 6: been under one basically roof one coach, one nine years,

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Speaker 6: one president earlier in.

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Speaker 3: Jerry had or in the afternoon, Jerry had gone down

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Speaker 3: to Austin to personally let coach Landry know that he's

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Speaker 3: no longer the coach of the count And.

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Speaker 6: There were all these people in the organization that had

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Speaker 6: been there for twenty nine years, so that was not

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Speaker 6: a celebration for them, no, and it was It was

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Speaker 5: And uh, I do remember text looking just looking like

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Speaker 5: he was not doing well.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if you think about it, he was in

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Speaker 6: the main seat all the time and when the press

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Speaker 6: conference began, he didn't have a seat. He was standing

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Speaker 6: up right. So when we all finished eleven eleven thirty

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Speaker 6: writing or whatever, we ended up in Texas office and

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Speaker 6: we were he was at his desk, he only had

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Speaker 6: on the floor, right, and uh and Frank hadn't said

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Speaker 6: He goes, well, I better get up finish my birthday.

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Speaker 4: My wife's waiting for me.

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Speaker 2: It was midnight.

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Speaker 6: She ain't waiting for you, But yeah, right, birthday.

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Speaker 5: I just remember, you know, at the time, you know,

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Speaker 5: the teams, as far as the players were concerned, Uh,

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Speaker 5: You know, just things weren't going well. Tom was trying

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Speaker 4: Don't come off three and thirteen season.

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Speaker 5: You know, when when you have things going like that,

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Speaker 5: then the front office you can see, you can see

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Speaker 5: it happening from from the top down. You know, things

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Speaker 5: were just going bad. They weren't making good decisions, we

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Speaker 5: weren't playing well. Everything was obviously they didn't put a

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Speaker 5: good product on the field. Much as we tried to

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Speaker 5: be competitive, you know, you can it's not what they

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Speaker 5: don't want competitive here, that's that didn't work for us.

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Speaker 5: And you could just as players, we were like, you know,

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Speaker 5: they they have to go, you know, the regime. You know,

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Speaker 5: we were kind of like, hey, that's just the way

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Speaker 5: it goes. Players get cut all the time. Even though

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Speaker 5: as unique as this was, we were thinking it's time.

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Speaker 5: We were thinking it's time, but a lot of players

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Speaker 5: don't ever realize when it's time for them, then it's

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Speaker 3: You can, you can put it in today's terms, probably

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Speaker 3: in New England with Bill Belichick. It's time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so how did you find out?

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, it was all over the news.

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Speaker 6: It was all over them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how you found out.

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Speaker 5: There was somebody saw it, someone somewhere else, and they

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Speaker 3: And the story had broken a day or two before.

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Speaker 3: In fact, it was Tom Murray at Channel five who

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Speaker 3: broke the story on this. Uh, Jerry Jones from Arkansas,

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Speaker 6: And everybody was like, oh wait this guy.

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Speaker 3: And then of course Jerry and Jimmy had dinner at MIA's. Yep,

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Speaker 3: and Ivan mas Elgis from the Dallas Morning News just

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Speaker 3: knew Jimmy from I didn't know who that was with

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Speaker 6: You think he had to go to Jerry had to

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Speaker 6: go to a pay phone or in the restaurant to

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Speaker 3: Now you can just get your phone out and take

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Speaker 3: the picture of yourself.

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Speaker 4: Well, every time we sound so old.

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Speaker 3: Experienced experience, Well that's what you miss, Savannah thirty five

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Speaker 1: I know the story.

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Speaker 3: Huh, that's right.

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Speaker 5: It was kind of you know, like I said, when

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Speaker 4: I mean it was just, you know, he passed. It

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Speaker 5: The you know, cursing out the kicker and all of that.

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Speaker 5: Way past all of that. We got into pre season.

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Speaker 5: Everything was like very exciting. We were like three we

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Speaker 7: But but the but initially and it was like whoa,

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Speaker 3: But initially the fan base was a lot of the

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Speaker 3: fan base was in shock. In fact, was my sister.

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Speaker 3: It was a long time Boys fan. I remember getting

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Speaker 4: No one wanted time to go.

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Speaker 3: But then she was front row and center when they

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Speaker 5: Well yeah, because just to be honest, the players they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, you could kind of you know,

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Speaker 5: you just to say you can't make chicken salad, chicken crap.

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Speaker 5: So uh, that's what he was trying to do the

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Speaker 6: And you know, as truth be known, in that super

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Speaker 6: eighty nine super Bowl was in Miami. Guest in the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys suite at the super Bowl was Jimmy Johnson. Gil

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Speaker 6: Brandt invited him because Gill had all the connections with

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Speaker 3: So gilating that is made despite the owners for even

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Speaker 3: if bum Bright's still the owner, right that if a

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Speaker 3: move is made on Landry, that Jimmy would be a candidate.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it was coincidence or not.

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Speaker 5: It was an odd time for Gil as well. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 6: And they kept him around through the draft and then

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Speaker 2: He too had to go.

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Speaker 3: He wouldn't leave.

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Speaker 4: Well, you say it right, man, He would not leave.

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Speaker 2: He was kept out.

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Speaker 4: It took him a while to leave his office. And

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Speaker 4: I say a while about a week.

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Speaker 6: So, well, he had to collect all his stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I could.

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Speaker 3: Well to cont wrap up my story on my sister

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Speaker 3: call and I said, well, you may be mad right now,

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Speaker 3: but there about to get Troy Yeate minute quarterback. This

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then we end up it wasn't just Troy,

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Speaker 5: but it was what's the other quarterback.

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Speaker 3: then they traded Steve Walsh and got multiple draft picks

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Speaker 4: How they did that, yeah, that's right, No idea how

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was my answer to the Trey Lance question

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Speaker 6: last week. He was like, well, we wasted a fourth

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Speaker 6: what if he gets to pre season and he plays

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Speaker 6: well and somebody gets a quarterback hurt and they go, oh,

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Speaker 6: we'll give you a second from him.

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Speaker 4: You never know, you never know.

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Speaker 6: So but yeah, you know, it's funny because when I

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Speaker 6: saw it was February twenty fifth, I'm going, why do

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Speaker 6: I got to remember this date?

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Speaker 2: It was like, do I have a bill due that

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Speaker 2: I got to pay?

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Speaker 6: Right edited dawn Dog, It's like, oh, it's Frank's birthday,

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Speaker 6: the late Frank, Uncle Frank.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, spinning it towards twenty twenty four, and

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Speaker 3: we're spinning very closely towards the new year. We are

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Speaker 3: two weeks away today, two weeks away from the start

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Speaker 3: of free agency, and NFL teams convening today or yesterday

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Speaker 6: They didn't care about showing the linebacker They don't all

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, and the Cowboys need to find

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Speaker 6: Oh and I saw Nate Newton got invited inducted into

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Speaker 6: He wound up playing football, right, Franks Cush.

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Speaker 4: Hear of all the accolades that he has.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and when he came here, it didn't mean jack,

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Speaker 6: Just and rarely had to play. But he punted. Got

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Speaker 5: All around the athlete, right baseball, all football and a punter.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of skill.

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Speaker 5: I liked about What I liked about him was he

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Speaker 5: He did that so many times. We don't punters don't

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Speaker 4: Now? Can they do that? Is it?

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Speaker 3: To think about what a threat that is a punter

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Speaker 6: And the other thing that used to happen back then

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Speaker 6: Forever forever, right. Danny's funny story. He told me this

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Speaker 4: I was waiting to hear what he was going to say.

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Speaker 5: And Tom would always say, oh, I don't know anything

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he made him.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, what can you say that? The conversations

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Speaker 5: I don't remember anyone really having a long conversation as

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Speaker 6: Langer the eighty four season.

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Speaker 4: That's the first year we didn't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: It was because we were already you.

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Speaker 5: Tony Do said, says that when he says okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I think I heard that interviewing.

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Speaker 3: He would say okay.

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Speaker 5: Because everyone wanted to do an expos on him, and

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Speaker 6: People didn't realize during the season he would do a

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Speaker 4: That was it.

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Speaker 2: That was the only opportunity to him.

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Speaker 6: Unless you had something you could call Barbara Anderson remembers

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Speaker 6: one question for Tom, and you could call and he would.

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Speaker 2: But that was it. That was it.

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Speaker 6: So when Jimmy got here, we got him every day.

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Speaker 3: I haven't I got I can give you hints. But

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Speaker 3: Blank stares Tom Tupa. That's the other one.

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Speaker 4: Phoenix Yah won.

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Speaker 3: A Super Bowl. He was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers punter

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Speaker 3: the Raiders, And.

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Speaker 3: More less feeling? All right? We got to hear the

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Speaker 3: tales from Veil asales from l was very excited coming

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Speaker 3: in here because you just got back from Vail, Colorado.

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: And there are cowboys stories from Veil.

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Speaker 12: I have a cowboys story from Vail, Colorado. And mind you,

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Speaker 12: I texted Mickey at the time too, so he's all

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Speaker 12: aware of what's going on. You guys haven't heard this.

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Speaker 12: But last Wednesday I went to Vail with my dad

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Speaker 12: and sister flew in, went skiing for the day. Thursday

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Speaker 12: skied for the day, and then Thursday afternoon, my dad

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Speaker 12: and sister and I we always go to this restaurant

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Speaker 12: called the Veil Chop House. And there's this guy he's

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Speaker 12: partially an owner of the restaurant. He puts on a

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Speaker 12: show at the restaurant. He's like a one man band.

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Speaker 6: That's that guy Pill Long long time ago, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Phil Long.

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Speaker 12: He's amazing one man band, keyboard guitar, sings, He takes

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Speaker 12: all these requests and he just puts on a show

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Speaker 12: for people for three hours. So we go in, we

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Speaker 12: sit down at our reservation. I'm sitting next to my

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Speaker 12: dad and I look over and I'm like, I'm pretty

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Speaker 12: sure that's Brandon Aubrey. And Brandon Aubrey was there with

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Speaker 12: his wife, his mom, and dad, and so I guess

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Speaker 12: the dad also knows Phil Long, the singer, and so

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Speaker 12: Phil eventually calls Brandon up to the stage and says,

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Speaker 12: I want everyone in the restaurant to know this man

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Speaker 12: is the kicker for the Dallas Cowboys and just exactly

529
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Speaker 12: just tells the story of his time in his first

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Speaker 12: year in the NFL and how well he did for

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Speaker 12: the Cowboys, and the whole restaurant gave him a big

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Speaker 12: standing ovation and everyone started coming up and taking pictures

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Speaker 12: with them, and so obviously I was like, okay, well

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Speaker 12: I'm going to go say hi to Brandon. And I

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Speaker 12: was like, okay, I'm obviously Savannah. I've chatted with you

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Speaker 12: in the locker room a few times work on the

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Speaker 12: media side, and he was like, oh my gosh, it

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Speaker 12: is so great to see you. For the record, I

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Speaker 12: am not skiing. He was not skiing here. He was

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Speaker 12: making sure he was.

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Speaker 2: Just funcase.

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Speaker 12: You're in the boot, you can't be in the boot.

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Speaker 2: I had heard before.

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Speaker 6: She let me know that he was a veil going skiing,

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Speaker 6: and everybody in the scouting department was holding their breath

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Speaker 6: right because they thought he was actually skiing.

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Speaker 12: He was, in fact not skiing.

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Speaker 4: Told us he is not skied.

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Speaker 2: He was not lying. That's what I wanted to check

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Speaker 2: boots exactly.

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Speaker 4: No, but it was.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome just there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 5: So we used to have like thirty plus off season

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Speaker 5: basketball games track in the day, nobody cared Dorset was

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Speaker 5: with US player on the team.

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Speaker 2: Guys used to travel all the time, all over the state.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy now you can't even if you but

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Speaker 5: Mahomes didn't need like dunkle basketball one time or something,

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Speaker 5: and everybody had a fit because like, what are you

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Speaker 5: doing on the basketball?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Like what are you about the NBA celebrity game other boys? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: talking about dunking and basketball.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he made that look easy, didn't Huh. That's crazy?

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Speaker 5: What an athlete? That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: So do you think if he devoted time to basketball

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Speaker 3: that he could play in the NBA?

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Speaker 4: I think he could not necessarily.

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Speaker 3: I didn't watch the celebrity game. I watched him play basketball.

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Speaker 3: I just heard the reports.

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Speaker 4: He's seven points.

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Speaker 5: The highlight of his defense will probably put him on

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Speaker 5: the mark is smart, We'll put him on.

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Speaker 4: That's way right. He will be. He will be on

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Speaker 4: someone's team because of his attitude.

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Speaker 6: He'd probably fall out.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's what they were using for it. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he'd be that guy.

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Speaker 6: Since we went back, we also should mention Golden Richards

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Speaker 6: passing away. Yes, played with the Cowboys from seventy three

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Speaker 6: to seventy eight. He had got diagnosed with Parkinson's disease

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Speaker 6: about five ten years ago. But he died of congestive

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Speaker 6: heart failure in Murray, Utah.

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Speaker 4: And that's why it was.

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Speaker 6: He was a b YU guy before he played in

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Speaker 6: Why I think he's from Utah. Yeah, he went to

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Speaker 6: high school. It was I think close to Well. I

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Speaker 6: think it was in Murray. That's where he ended up.

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Speaker 6: Going back. What I didn't realize about him, So we

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Speaker 6: all know about the touchdown catch in seventy eight from

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Speaker 6: Robert new from Robert Newhouse, the Super Bowl twelve, the

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Speaker 6: seventy seven season twenty nine yards. What I didn't realize

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Speaker 6: is two seasons with the Cowboys, he averaged twenty one

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Speaker 6: point five yards and twenty one point eight yards a

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Speaker 6: catch a catch, so he was quite the deep threat

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Speaker 6: during his career.

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Speaker 4: That was when we signed Doug Donnelly.

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Speaker 5: Everybody had flashbacks, white lightning, white lightning. We were pretty

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Speaker 5: happy to have him because we just knew he was

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Speaker 5: going to be another Golden Richards.

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Speaker 6: Mike Renfro too, he wanted to speak.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't it wasn't the same number. First of all,

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Speaker 4: Doug was eighty three.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, okay, it wasn't just because he's a white

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Speaker 5: wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: Racist.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're not supposed to be fast.

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Speaker 4: It's not where we are but Texas.

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Speaker 5: No, but uh no, Doug just had injury problems, but

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Speaker 5: we we had some high hopes for him. Rainfrow used

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Speaker 5: to be fast and he hurt his knee. Remember before

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Speaker 5: his knee surgery, well more than one knee surgery.

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Speaker 4: He was pretty fast.

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Speaker 3: Run in the family, Renfro and then his son.

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Speaker 4: His son was a help of player actually track at

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Speaker 4: t c U.

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Speaker 6: I ran into both of them at the Davy O'Brien

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Speaker 6: Award dinner. But anyway, yeah, I thought we'd point that

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Speaker 6: out about Golden Richards had the greatest terror ever Golden locks.

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Speaker 4: Yes he did, all right, so what uh what?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Look at that legal pad. He has been filling

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Speaker 3: up that legal pad right, whats on Mickey's legal pad?

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 6: Do you want to do it now?

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Speaker 3: In the clock?

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Speaker 4: We got time? So you're lucky we're here.

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys got a huge.

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Speaker 6: Benefit we're talking salary cap from the salary carry going up.

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Speaker 6: It was projected to go up to two forty two

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Speaker 6: five million this year from two twenty four to five

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Speaker 6: last year. But when it got solidified at the end

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Speaker 6: of last week it went, it increased nearly thirteen more

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Speaker 6: million dollars than the projection, so it's now two hundred

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Speaker 6: and fifty five point four million. So at the time

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Speaker 6: when the projection was to forty two, the Cowboys were

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Speaker 6: somewhere around I don't know, sixteen million over the cap. Well,

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Speaker 6: now after the escalation, when it comes to the top

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Speaker 6: fifty one players and that's what the cap hits at

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Speaker 6: on March thirteenth, the Cowboys are really only about three

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Speaker 6: and a half million over the cap. So that's an

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Speaker 6: easy adjustment that they can make initially, and then you know,

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Speaker 6: the full cap doesn't hit until the first week of

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Speaker 6: the season, and you've got to include all fifty three players.

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Speaker 6: So for the top fifty one, they're within reasonable distance

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Speaker 6: to make some adjustments to be able to not only

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Speaker 6: get under but have money to spend in free agency

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Speaker 6: and the draft. So that was a huge benefit for

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys at that time. Plus they had a ten

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Speaker 6: million dollar rollover for money that was left over this

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Speaker 6: past season, so their total cap would have been to

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Speaker 6: sixty six point two million when they rolled that in,

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Speaker 6: But they've got fourteen points seven million in dead money.

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Speaker 6: And when it comes to that dead money, Zeke still

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Speaker 6: counting six million and Tyron Smith will count another six million,

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Speaker 6: So twelve of the fifth fourteen million is dead money

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Speaker 6: that was created by those two.

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Speaker 3: And Mickey takes a big o' sip.

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Speaker 12: A lot of talk, a lot of money, a lot

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Speaker 12: of money covers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, then what was this about the coming out of

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Speaker 3: the pandemic and the makeup money that is also applied

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Speaker 3: for the money that where they had to cut back

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Speaker 3: during the pandemic. There was also an adjustment adjustment.

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Speaker 6: Most of this is because of the new TV contract

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Speaker 6: that's that was the huge, huge deal, so you know,

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Speaker 6: and so right now they've got to decide. I mean,

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Speaker 6: their biggest decision is what to do with Dak. And

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Speaker 6: everybody keeps pointing out the cap hit is fifty nine

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Speaker 6: point four million, but his base salary is only twenty

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Speaker 6: nine million. There's been restructure bonuses that you've got to

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Speaker 6: account for. So they can reduce the twenty nine million

673
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Speaker 6: by giving him a restructured bonus because there's two dummy

674
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Speaker 6: year void years at the end of his contract, and

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Speaker 6: they can get it down the cap hit to probably

676
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Speaker 6: in the forty million, so that would create almost you know,

677
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Speaker 6: nineteen million more or.

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Speaker 4: Of space.

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Speaker 3: So just to give you an idea on the cap

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Speaker 3: and where it's gone the last four years, Yeah, okay,

681
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Speaker 3: it was at the salary cap number in twenty twenty

682
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Speaker 3: was one hundred and ninety eight point two million. After

683
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Speaker 3: because of COVID it went down sixteen million to one

684
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Speaker 3: eighty two five and twenty one, went back up in

685
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Speaker 3: twenty two to two hundred eight million, in twenty three

686
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Speaker 3: two hundred twenty four million, and now this time it

687
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Speaker 3: basically doubled the increase of thirty million dollars to two

688
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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty five million, and one of the reasons

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Speaker 3: for that, as to answer my own question, the unprecedented

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Speaker 3: thirty million dollars or increase per club in this year's

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Speaker 3: salary cap is the result of the full repayment of

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Speaker 3: all amounts advanced by the clubs and deferred by the

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Speaker 3: players during the pandemic.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so.

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Speaker 6: They get a big bump, and Dak's not the only one,

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Speaker 6: you know, I mean, it's the biggest one. But if

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Speaker 6: you look at Zach Martin, because of restructure bonuses they've

698
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Speaker 6: paid him, his cap hit is going to be twenty

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Speaker 6: eight point five in the last year of his contract.

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Speaker 6: By the way, he's got an eighteen million dollar base

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Speaker 6: Same with DeMarcus Lawrence. He's got a twenty point four

702
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Speaker 6: million cap hit. His base salary is only ten But

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Speaker 6: because they restructured and paid him bonus to lower his

704
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 6: base salaries, at some point the credit card comes due,

705
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Speaker 6: right seed lamb. They really need to sign them to

706
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Speaker 6: a long term deal. The fifth year option they picked

707
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 6: up is seventeen point nine million, and so if you

708
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Speaker 6: sign them to an extension, a long term deal, then

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Speaker 6: you can reduce the cap hit for at least this

710
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Speaker 6: year because they'll pay them a big signing bonus, and

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Speaker 6: so you only need to give them the base salary,

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Speaker 6: the minimum base salary. So they got some things that

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Speaker 6: they can do to create money, because otherwise, if they

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Speaker 6: didn't get that hit, they were going to be in

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Speaker 6: trouble in free agency.

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Speaker 3: Here's here's another example of how well the league's doing

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Speaker 3: right now and eversin This is for you. Okay, the

718
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Speaker 3: salary cap number is two hundred and fifty five point

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Speaker 3: four million, four players on their roster right now, but

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Speaker 3: each team is also getting an additional seventy four million

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Speaker 3: dollars per club payment for player benefits, which includes performance

722
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Speaker 3: base pay for current players and benefit fits for retired players.

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Speaker 3: You're a retired player, so that affects you.

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Speaker 4: I like that. So when do we realize that? Do

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Speaker 4: you have that?

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Speaker 3: Go up to Jerry's office. So the actual the actual

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Speaker 3: player costs for twenty four, three hundred and twenty nine

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Speaker 3: million dollars per club, or more than ten point five

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Speaker 3: billion dollars league wide. That's how successful this league is doing.

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Speaker 4: Let's kind of go back to the anniversary this year.

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Speaker 5: What we were talking about do you think if Jerry

732
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Speaker 5: would not have bought.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys for one hundred and forty million dollars.

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Speaker 5: That this league would be thriving as it is right now.

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Speaker 4: Can you point, oh, that's a good point to this, this acquisition.

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Speaker 5: Can you point to Jerry infusing himself into the NFL.

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Speaker 3: In the way we started reapproaching how they do business

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Speaker 3: because of what Jerry.

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Speaker 5: The owners, as much as they talk trash, I know

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Speaker 5: that secretly they're like, he's good for the league.

741
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Speaker 4: Great for the league, by the way. You know, Jerry's

742
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Speaker 4: Jerry to me.

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Speaker 5: But when it's I mean, but really you can you

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Speaker 5: can not feel a certain way about somebody to still

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Speaker 5: give him some love.

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Speaker 4: When he came into the.

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Speaker 5: League, everything changed, I mean the way that you the

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Speaker 5: owners acted, you know, right, even though he's still a

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Speaker 5: bit over the top as far as I'm concerned, but

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Speaker 5: you know, he seemed to bring more interest to the league,

751
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Speaker 5: and of course when the Cowboys started winning, that always

752
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Speaker 5: brings more money to the league.

753
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Speaker 4: But I think that how many years ago to day

754
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Speaker 4: was it you said thirty five years ago? Today?

755
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Speaker 5: I think that all the NFL owners were better off

756
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Speaker 5: when Jerry Jones came into the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I think that all the business part of it, and

758
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Speaker 3: that's what I'm from marketing to merchandising to TV contracts.

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Speaker 4: Even though he doesn't share, right, he's still and that

760
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Speaker 4: the way they have it.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't share is some of it, some of it,

762
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Speaker 5: but it's still and they were they were mad about that.

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Speaker 4: I remember the owners were mad about that. But overall,

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Speaker 4: like the Nike deal, yeah, exactly too right.

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Speaker 6: The Nike deal was ninety five when he and it

766
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Speaker 6: was the Monday night opener, and he and Phil Knight

767
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Speaker 6: walked out together.

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Speaker 3: Right after the signing of Dion about the same time.

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Speaker 3: Dion was right after.

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Speaker 4: That, because at first it was Reebox, right.

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Speaker 6: It was right after the signing of Kevin Smith.

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Speaker 3: Right, and then Dion was signed after Kevin went down.

773
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Speaker 3: And he's an opener against the giants whatever it.

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Speaker 5: Was Rebok at first, and the Nike and then there

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Speaker 5: was didn't the Solda. Didn't that have a didn't have

776
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Speaker 5: a thing about the the Solda?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, PEPSI versus Co.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know he went against the grain every time, right,

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Speaker 5: and Miller lite this.

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Speaker 4: So no. I just thought that was you know, very interesting.

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Speaker 5: How you know, once it wasn't just with him coming

782
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Speaker 5: in and the Cowboys winning. Then the NFL changed in

783
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Speaker 5: the nineteen nineties and they never looked back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Sport COO.

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Speaker 3: They release a yearly UH.

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Speaker 12: Report of all the sports franchises for value, and so

788
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Speaker 12: last week they actually came out with the results and

789
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Speaker 12: now increased. Cowboys they are at nine point two billion

790
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Speaker 12: dollars worth in value.

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Speaker 3: New York Giants exactly.

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Speaker 12: Giants came in at number two, seven billion, and the

793
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Speaker 12: Rams at six point nine billion for number three.

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Speaker 4: Well, the stadium, the stadium.

795
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Speaker 12: Yeah, but Cowboys nine point two at the top.

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Speaker 4: I thought Washington was in there at one point.

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Speaker 5: I think they have with the issues that they had, right, Yeah,

798
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Speaker 5: but before that they were up there.

799
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Speaker 12: They're at number seven on this list at six okay billion,

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Speaker 12: there you go, there you go.

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Speaker 3: H oh. Yeah, we had another break, Yes we do. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we got one more break and we continue with more

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Speaker 3: mixed shots in just a moment.

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Speaker 11: served in the armed forces since the Civil War. Fewer

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Speaker 11: than four thousand have received the Medal of Honor. The

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Speaker 10: first nacho chip with its perfect cheese to sour cream

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Speaker 10: savory topping.

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Speaker 3: There's no topping a cool pepsi.

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Speaker 10: Finish nachos better with pepsi.

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Speaker 2: That's what I like.

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Speaker 3: To mixed shots.

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Speaker 3: Next week in case she missed the show mix Shots

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Speaker 3: You had a special guest on the show.

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Speaker 6: We did Cowboys video director Robert Blackvelt. He was black

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Speaker 6: Girl joined Savannah and I.

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Speaker 2: He was great.

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Speaker 3: So you recommend that I go back and listen to it.

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Speaker 4: Watch it.

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Speaker 12: He came in, sat right there, and I'm sitting in

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Speaker 12: my season and tune into his podcast as well.

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Speaker 3: Real R E E L Football Stories.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, he told us all about his show that he does,

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Speaker 12: all the old stories.

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Speaker 2: That he has.

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Speaker 4: Did he say how long he's been doing it the podcast?

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Speaker 2: You take a year and a half for like a

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Speaker 2: year and a half.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: How long has he been retired?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 12: Since twenty twenty?

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Speaker 6: Twenty twenty was his last last season.

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Speaker 12: I think it was February of twenty one he officially retired.

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Speaker 6: So he's one of the few people here that worked

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Speaker 6: for every one of the coaches, owners, CoA head coach, yeah,

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Speaker 6: and GMS.

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Speaker 3: So when did he start.

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Speaker 6: Nineteen eighty eighty one off? Because he was he was

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Speaker 6: he was an assistant before he became the video.

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Speaker 12: Director and then he was telling us, yeah it was

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Speaker 12: he forty seasons, and then he counted eight hundred and

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Speaker 12: thirty five games.

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Speaker 6: That he has filmed?

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Speaker 3: How many draft picks?

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Speaker 6: Because he was the guy that we talked about that,

882
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 6: we talked about it the draft cards.

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Speaker 3: I haven't I'm being very transparent here. I have not

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Speaker 3: listened that. That's why I wanted to find out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I need to go and watch this go. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's why I'm asking. Okay, all right, what's next on Mickey's.

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Speaker 6: So? Did they make the additions other than Mike Zimmer

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Speaker 6: before you guys went wherever you went?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, because I don't think we've talked since Zimmer came.

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Speaker 12: We talked Zim, right, I don't think we did, No,

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Speaker 12: I think I think we It was the week two

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Speaker 12: weeks ago, so yeah.

893
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 4: I don't know. We talked about it though. Was it

894
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 4: before our show? No, it happened after. So what do

895
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 4: you think about I like it.

896
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 5: He's a hard ass. That's what everybody wants. He's a

897
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 5: hard ass. And you know, he did work well with

898
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 5: the players back then. Let's hope it works with the

899
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 5: players now. Yes, they're different now. Was the last time

900
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 5: he was.

901
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 4: Here twenty.

902
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 6: Two thousand and six?

903
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 5: Was his players a little different now, a little bit,

904
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 5: you know, just like in school, students are different now,

905
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 5: you know, you have to have, you know, more updated

906
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 5: ways of motivating guys.

907
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 4: And I'm hoping he can do.

908
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 6: It well and let's make you know. He it's he's

909
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 6: been coaching except for the last two years. And he

910
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 6: kind of explained the uh idea that he was Dion's consulting.

911
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 6: He was like, yeah, it's funny.

912
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 3: Hell, something gets put on your Wikipedia page, this analyst

913
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 3: and coat like your got your sleeves rolled up. You're

914
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 3: right alongside Dion at Jackson State coaching Colorado calls. Right,

915
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 3: it's like college. They're making phone calls to it. It's

916
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 3: like it's like, Jimmy's now on the adviser that's right.

917
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: How about that?

918
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: Are people that eleven their news producers? Oh we gotta

919
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 3: we got to do a story on that. Are you

920
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 3: leading the sports cast with no Jerry just made a

921
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 3: phone call to Jimmy and Jimmy jokingly said, I'm on

922
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 3: his advisory board.

923
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

924
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 4: Now it comes.

925
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 3: Headlines across the Sometimes you got Jimmy is now working

926
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 3: for the Cowboys.

927
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 6: Sometimes you you've got to hear, You've got to hear

928
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 6: and not read it right because when I heard.

929
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 3: It, he was laughing when he said it.

930
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

931
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 6: So they made Zim though, So I called Campbo because

932
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 6: Campbell's the one that got him here. They it's a

933
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 6: it's a long involved story on how they met, but

934
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 6: Mike and myself met nineteen seventy nine. He was his

935
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 6: first coaching job out of college at the University of

936
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 6: Missouri and he was a part time assistant and a

937
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 6: guy by the name of Mike Price ring A Bell

938
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 6: was the Missouri quarterbacks coach and wide receivers coach when

939
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 6: Zim was there, and he got hired as the head

940
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 6: coach in nineteen eighty at Weaber State, and he brought

941
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 6: Mike along as his defensive back coach, who ended up

942
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 6: a years later as his defensive coordinator at Washington State.

943
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 6: At Washington State and Campbeo was out of work because

944
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 6: he was working for Joe Avezano at Oregon State when

945
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 6: they went under not under me Winless, and Campbell said,

946
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 6: I just needed to find a job, and so he

947
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 6: ends up at Weber because he and Mike Price were

948
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 6: assistant coaches at Washington together. So anyway, Campbell got to

949
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 6: know Zim and he said once he kept trying to

950
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 6: get Mike here. He would come and visit, and when

951
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 6: Switzerlan became the head coach in ninety four, they talked

952
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 6: him into hiring Zim as a defensive assistant, taking care

953
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 6: of the secondary and the rest was history. For what

954
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 6: thirteen thirteen thirteen years or.

955
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 4: Forgive it might have been. Mike Price.

956
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 3: He was the head coach of Washington State, then at

957
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 3: U Tip and then you'll have to.

958
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 4: Google watch it. I know because he's Missouri guy.

959
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 6: No, he he ended up at Washington, Washington as the

960
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 6: head coach.

961
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 4: Well, you act like everybody.

962
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 12: Knows, you know, to Wikipedia, WeGo said, I think I

963
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 12: have said three times that he was at Washington States.

964
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 4: Not Washington.

965
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 6: He got hard as the head coach at Alabama, right, Yeah.

966
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 3: That where things went sideways.

967
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 4: I'm sorry he didn't even coach a game. Wow, Okay, it.

968
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 3: Was off the field incident during a brief That's why

969
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 3: I said, Google, Wikipedia has.

970
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 4: It all radar.

971
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 2: Anyway, But that's how they got together.

972
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 3: So I ended up there's calling thousands of hits on

973
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 3: my Prices.

974
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 6: Brought it up. Well, last time I told that story

975
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 6: and I mentioned Mike Price.

976
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember that. Then he wound up at UTEP.

977
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: Anyway, I called Campbell, called Campbell that you know what.

978
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 6: It was to ask him about Mike Price, I mean, uh,

979
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 6: about Mike Zimmer and he said, yeah, he said, the

980
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 6: good thing about Zim is if those guys need to

981
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 6: be mf he will, yes, yes, but he will also

982
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 6: put his arm around the guy and take care of him.

983
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 5: So so the players trust him. Yeah, And it's not like,

984
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 5: you know, he's going to be a teddy bear to him.

985
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 5: He's really gonna, you know, tough.

986
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 6: But he, as he pointed out in the press conference,

987
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 6: he goes, but that's what players want.

988
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: They want me to make them better, right.

989
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 12: And he also even said in there he said, the

990
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 12: players want to be coached, and the best players really

991
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 12: want to be coached. And that's as true as it gets.

992
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: You know, they got to work with him too.

993
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 6: But he couldn't say enough of good things about him,

994
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 6: and even Dion, I mean he you know, I mean

995
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 6: that tells you what Dion thought.

996
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's his confident Hunt. I love Mike Zimmer,

997
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 3: just this time in Minnesota because he drafted my guy,

998
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 3: Danil Hunter in the third round.

999
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 6: Of the draft, right, yeah, and then they've also brought

1000
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 6: back Greg Ellis.

1001
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 4: Oh that's nice.

1002
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 6: I saw that he's going to be defensive assistant, defensive

1003
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 6: line assistant. But he told me when we ran into

1004
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 6: each other last week that he's going to concentrate on

1005
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 6: defensive vents.

1006
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 4: So remember I think that was Greg.

1007
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 5: He was standing outside the dorm and he was about

1008
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 5: he was checking in, he was bringing his stuff in,

1009
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 5: and he had the TV under his arm. I think

1010
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 5: it was Greg, and they talked, you know, so the

1011
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 5: you know, he's checking in, so the media's all day.

1012
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 5: The Cowboys come and train again and they interviewed Greg Ellis. Well,

1013
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 5: they interviewed him for about five minutes and he never

1014
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 5: dropped the TV.

1015
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 4: And that was crazy TV.

1016
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 2: Remember seeing this on TV.

1017
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 4: Trust me, guys, it's out there. He held onto that

1018
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 4: TV the entire interview and it was a big asses.

1019
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 7: Well it was you know, back in the day, so

1020
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 7: it wasn't one of these yeah there those, This was

1021
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 7: the tube TVs.

1022
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and he was holding onto the rookie year

1023
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 6: would have been ninety eight and there were.

1024
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 3: No before high definition televisions.

1025
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 6: There was there was no TVs in the dorms. At

1026
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 6: Wichita at Midwestern.

1027
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 5: Okay, so you had to bring your own TV. He

1028
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 5: brought it and he was he was holding the entire interview.

1029
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 5: I think he may have started sweating a little.

1030
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 3: Bit, but well, yeah, because it was it was hot,

1031
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: but the TV was heavy.

1032
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 5: Though it wasn't because the TV was heavy. He just

1033
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 5: held on to it. He was just talking talking. Okay, guys.

1034
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 5: It was like okay, okay.

1035
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: That's where he made it his first impression for you man.

1036
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 4: This guy, this guy.

1037
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 6: That they make different TVs now in UH in two thousand,

1038
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 6: so it was my first year and I stayed at

1039
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 6: the dorm UH at Midwestern State.

1040
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 4: I should have done that with.

1041
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 3: My twelve pack of Miller like coke.

1042
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: Because I moved into the door.

1043
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 4: Makes the funny guy he's got the beer.

1044
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 6: I got the beer, moved into the dorm, and I said, oh,

1045
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 6: I'll go back and get that next day or two

1046
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 6: days later. It was so hot, which tall falls. It

1047
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 6: exploded in the back of my car. All the cans

1048
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 6: just exploded, diet coke.

1049
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 3: All over the place. I wouldn't think about what that

1050
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: does in your stomach where it.

1051
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 4: Thank you, Bill, Thanks Bill. That's what he means. Damn it,

1052
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 4: that's exactly what he means.

1053
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: Sure, it's over ninety eight degrees in your stomach.

1054
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 4: So that's why the kids went bad.

1055
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: It was one hundred and twenty.

1056
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 7: And there's tall falls. That was a waste of time.

1057
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 7: I thought, what the whole story about? No, no, nothing,

1058
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 7: Excuse me, Bill didn't know. We're wasting your time. No,

1059
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 7: I just made being out there.

1060
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 4: It was too hot. It was too hot to practice.

1061
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 6: Well, no, kiddy, it was just too hot.

1062
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 4: I was out there on my tent speed. I almost died. Yeah.

1063
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 3: Did you take part in the one hundred hell hundred?

1064
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 6: No?

1065
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 5: But I felt it because I I rode the highway

1066
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 5: from the from the hotel to the practice field.

1067
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 2: You did?

1068
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I was with Deocy oh channel, Yeah whatever

1069
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 4: I happen to him.

1070
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 6: Real?

1071
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll let you uh.

1072
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: You want to talk about the.

1073
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1074
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 6: They also hired Paul Gunther, the defensive run game coordinator,

1075
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 6: Jeff and.

1076
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 3: I don't know how to scanina.

1077
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 6: Scanina defensive line coach. And they just hired Christian Garcia

1078
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 6: as a defensive assistant.

1079
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 3: You don't seem real fired up about these hires, just

1080
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 3: the way you're expressing them you're you don't have a

1081
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 3: lot of energy in your voice. You're not a guess here, mickey,

1082
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 3: So do I.

1083
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 5: Need to, like, just so you know, I get paid

1084
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 5: by some guy who's standing outside and he's like, we

1085
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 5: need to wrap this up.

1086
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: So Jerry's outside, not Jim.

1087
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 4: Chris Scotty's out there like, hey, come on because he

1088
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 4: needs you. Yeah, I guess. So, I don't know. I

1089
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 4: don't know. He's think he's looking at me, maybe trying

1090
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 4: to look at Bill.

1091
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 12: I don't know.

1092
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: We get to go to noon and it's now.

1093
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 4: Here we are, it's high noon in one minute after that.

1094
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 3: Okay, So fast forward a week and Combine will be

1095
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 3: over next Monday, and.

1096
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 6: We'll have this and that notebook's going to be filled

1097
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 6: up and the uh mixed part of mixed shots won't

1098
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 6: be here.

1099
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 4: Oh what's up? What happened?

1100
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 6: I might just end up in veil, you know, man,

1101
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 6: you never know?

1102
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 4: Do you think? Baby? Do you think I like it? Y'all?

1103
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 4: Don't ask me questions. I'm not asking anymore.

1104
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 12: So we'll do We'll do our Combine show next to

1105
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 12: Combine show, and it will be also be our NFL

1106
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 12: Free Agency preview.

1107
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: So we're going to for agency starts the following Monday.

1108
01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 4: We're going to allow on that book.

1109
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 3: Okay, next week, I got my homework assignment.

1110
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 6: That that that green notebook used to look like my

1111
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 6: notes I took in American history and right, little Wow.

1112
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: It's funny. Yeah, I got a minder now and everything.

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Speaker 4: I think he liked that look. I think it made

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Speaker 4: him look like he was doing more than he really was.

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Speaker 2: Why green?

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Speaker 12: Why can't we have a blue?

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Speaker 3: Once upon a time, about fifteen years ago, I had

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Speaker 3: for some reason, it was a green notebook, and someone said, hey,

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Speaker 3: you ought to start marketing. This is your big green notebook,

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Speaker 3: And so I wanted to go to the big Green

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Speaker 3: Egg company and get a sponsorship, which never happened, but

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Speaker 3: I just kept it in hopes that one day big

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Speaker 3: it'll be the big Green Egg and I'll make some

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Speaker 3: money off this.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, No, that is not happening. That's really asked the

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Speaker 4: question doesn't How the hell.

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Speaker 3: I'm just happy to be green in one year green?

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Speaker 4: The color green means something right, renew, I don't know, knowledge's.

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Speaker 3: Right, spring is sprung, yes, you go, yeah, it's a

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Speaker 3: color of spring. It's a color of money.

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Speaker 6: The green book.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we're out of time. We're pasted out

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Speaker 3: of time. Here on mix Shots presented by Miller Lyte,

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