Speaker 1: Welcome back to She Pivots. I'm Vanessa Hudgens.
Speaker 2: Welcome to She Pivots, the podcast where we talk with
Speaker 2: women who dared to pivot out of one career and
Speaker 2: into something new and explore how their personal lives impacted
Speaker 2: these decisions. I'm your host, Emily Tish Sussman. Some news.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to announce that She Pivots is now
Speaker 2: part of the iHeart Family. This isn't going to mean
Speaker 2: much for you as the listeners. Same producers, same host,
Speaker 2: same team, just bigger family. We're kicking off our first
Speaker 2: iHeart episode with none other than Vanessa Hudgens. When the
Speaker 2: email came through that she wanted to be on the show,
Speaker 2: my producers and I could not have been more excited.
Speaker 2: Now we all know Vanessa Hudgens as an actress, performer,
Speaker 2: and singer, but she's pivoted into a new venture, or
Speaker 2: several new ventures in fact, as a business owner. I
Speaker 2: had the chance to interview Vanessa to talk about each
Speaker 2: of these and then talk about her mindset going into
Speaker 2: this new phase of life. It was so fun to
Speaker 2: hear that she, like so many founders, attends trade shows
Speaker 2: and works the room to get people to stock her product.
Speaker 2: She is hustling just like the rest of us. Her
Speaker 2: interview is truly delightful. It was fascinating to hear about
Speaker 2: how she views the different phases and changes in her career,
Speaker 2: especially considering that it started when she was just ten
Speaker 2: years old. So stay tuned as we hear about everything
Speaker 2: from her relationships to performing on Broadway to going into
Speaker 2: business with friends. Enjoy.
Speaker 3: My name is Vanessa Hudgens, and I I am an actress,
Speaker 3: a producer, singer, entrepreneur, business owner.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to back up a little bit, So
Speaker 2: what did you want to be when you thought about, like,
Speaker 2: who am I going to be when I grow up?
Speaker 1: Like when you were little.
Speaker 3: When I was little, I was either going to be
Speaker 3: a pediatrician or an actor. Okay, those were my two
Speaker 3: things that I gravitated towards. I started musical theater when
Speaker 3: I was like six years old, so that happened a
Speaker 3: lot faster.
Speaker 1: Than the pediatrician root would have taken me.
Speaker 3: And then as I've gotten older, I realized that I
Speaker 3: would have not done well because I can't do blood.
Speaker 2: So you were performing locally in shows and really doing
Speaker 2: exceptionally well, to the point that your family moved you
Speaker 2: pretty young to La to start working professionally.
Speaker 3: I was very, very shy, and my parents saw that,
Speaker 3: like I loved singing and dancing, so they put me
Speaker 3: in like a community theater show where you literally have
Speaker 3: to pay to play. It was like fifty bucks to
Speaker 3: be in the play. And I like a tiny little
Speaker 3: and I remember being terrified in the beginning. I would
Speaker 3: like make myself as small as possible because I was like, I.
Speaker 1: Don't want anyone to look at me.
Speaker 3: But through acting, I like felt that behind hiding behind
Speaker 3: a character allowed me to open up so much more.
Speaker 3: And then I had a friend who was like, I
Speaker 3: can't go on this audition for a commercial.
Speaker 1: Would you want to go? And I said.
Speaker 3: Sure, my parents drove me and I ended up booking it.
Speaker 3: So then I ended up signing with her agent. And
Speaker 3: it was just kind of like one thing led to another,
Speaker 3: and my parents are like, oh, well, it's like she's
Speaker 3: actually working and you know, she's making an income. And
Speaker 3: I feel like we moved the first time for me
Speaker 3: to do this when I was probably eleven or twelve,
Speaker 3: just to be closer Telle, because we were driving up
Speaker 3: a lot from San Diego.
Speaker 2: That's a big decision to move your whole family. Did
Speaker 2: you feel pressuring like they were moving it for your
Speaker 2: career you were so young.
Speaker 3: No, because I had no concepts, you know, like I
Speaker 3: don't know, like I enjoyed and loved doing what I
Speaker 3: was doing, and they were like, let's move, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, that's great, I get to keep doing it.
Speaker 3: As a kid, you have no idea, you just know
Speaker 3: what you love doing, and like that was it. I
Speaker 3: feel like it took a long time for me to
Speaker 3: even process the fact that that was my career because
Speaker 3: it was just something that I was so passionate about.
Speaker 3: I started homeschooling when I was probably fourteen years old, So.
Speaker 1: No, But at the same time, it was just something
Speaker 1: that I loved. Like I didn't look.
Speaker 3: At it as a tour or a task or anything negative.
Speaker 1: It was literally just like, Oh, I get to show
Speaker 1: up and play and have fun and this is really cool.
Speaker 3: It probably was after high school musical that I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is actually my career, like this is my job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well talk me through that.
Speaker 2: When you went into high school musical, did you have
Speaker 2: a sense about how big it would end up being no, of.
Speaker 1: Course, not again. Just a kid happened a good time.
Speaker 4: We're back.
Speaker 5: Us High School Musical two only on Good Morning America
Speaker 5: this morning.
Speaker 1: Plus we're going to meet the cast of High School
Speaker 1: Musical two and get to see them perform live. That's
Speaker 1: all next on gm AN. I'm not ashamed to admit
Speaker 1: looking forward, I had a crush, I had a new
Speaker 1: best friend.
Speaker 3: I was like working on a movie with a director
Speaker 3: who directed one of my favorite movies, Abra Jocus Focus.
Speaker 1: Like I was just like, this is the dream I'm living,
Speaker 1: literally the dream.
Speaker 3: Like that was just it Like it still would have
Speaker 3: been a very fond experience that I look back on.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The first one we did when I was fifteen, the
Speaker 3: last one we did when I was eighteen. So yeah,
Speaker 3: like that whole three years, it was really just that
Speaker 3: cast just the right or Die, us against the world,
Speaker 3: and the whole world was looking and it was wild,
Speaker 3: but like we had each other to lean on so
Speaker 3: it felt safe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And did you really lean on one another in
Speaker 2: that way?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. Like I mean, Zach was my boyfriend,
Speaker 3: Ashley was my best friend. We all lived within like
Speaker 3: a ten minute ratious of each other. So we were
Speaker 3: all very close and we kind of kept to ourselves always.
Speaker 1: Zach is endurable and we all just have so much fun.
Speaker 1: I me and this sad each other for like a year.
Speaker 1: Now we work together, Like she is so great. I
Speaker 1: love her. She's like now my sister. We all just
Speaker 1: hang out. We just had a glass were as London
Speaker 1: family in the content.
Speaker 2: Obviously, a high school musical was quite a departure from
Speaker 2: like the big film you had been before that in thirteen,
Speaker 2: like very different, literally.
Speaker 1: The opposite ends of the spectrum.
Speaker 2: So did you think, Okay, I should lean into this
Speaker 2: genre or I'm trying to prove something by be in
Speaker 2: a different kind of genre, because you kind of bounced
Speaker 2: around a little bit with choices after that.
Speaker 3: That was where I always had envisioned my career going.
Speaker 3: I always wanted to be the indie girl. I wanted
Speaker 3: to do the really artistic films that are mind bending
Speaker 3: and make you really question life.
Speaker 1: That was always the goal.
Speaker 3: High school musical came around, and I was like, well,
Speaker 3: you know, I might as well give it a go.
Speaker 3: I love musicals still do really, and so like that
Speaker 3: was just another aspect of myself that I knew I
Speaker 3: could lean into, so that happened. But after that was
Speaker 3: all said and done, I was like, Okay, I need
Speaker 3: to pull away from this image because I don't want
Speaker 3: to be stuck in a box. Like this is something
Speaker 3: that I want to be doing for the rest of
Speaker 3: my life, and if I allow myself to stay on
Speaker 3: the same.
Speaker 1: Train, it's cowens like that'll be it.
Speaker 3: I always think that like the most interesting actors, other
Speaker 3: people who are like real invent themselves and you're like, whoa,
Speaker 3: that was wild.
Speaker 1: But that was them.
Speaker 3: I remember, like Charlie's a monster, and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, that's the dream. So then when I
Speaker 3: got a script, gave me shelter and I talked to
Speaker 3: the director and he was like, I want to cut
Speaker 3: off all your hair and like be really cool if
Speaker 3: you gained all this way, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, yes, just yes, yes, yes, yes, yes that
Speaker 1: sounds like my cup of sea.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I had to like definitely distance myself from
Speaker 3: the sweet, good girl next door character in order to,
Speaker 3: I think, allow myself and my audience to grow with me.
Speaker 2: Though Disney fame can be alluring, Vanessa knew that she
Speaker 2: wanted to pull away. But how Vanessa shared that at
Speaker 2: first she led with her own interests and instincts. Honestly,
Speaker 2: it was just literally instinctual.
Speaker 3: It was like, Ooh, I don't want to be trapped here,
Speaker 3: so I'm going to run the other direction, and like, wow,
Speaker 3: there may be a lot of opportunity in this lane.
Speaker 1: That's not what I want because I already did that.
Speaker 3: And I think that is just so important to constantly,
Speaker 3: like be growing in all aspects of life, especially in
Speaker 3: your career. And I wasn't going to be growing much
Speaker 3: if I kept on doing the same thing over and
Speaker 3: over again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you.
Speaker 2: Went into Broadway, Yes, which is a different kind of muscle.
Speaker 2: Like you're a talented theater actor, but it's eight shows
Speaker 2: a week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an it's a grind. I mean, I love theater.
Speaker 3: I love the whole process of like the rehearsals and
Speaker 3: the smell of the rehearsal rooms.
Speaker 1: Like it's a weird nostalgic thing for me.
Speaker 3: And I just feel really really safe on the stage
Speaker 3: because that is kind of where I found my shine.
Speaker 2: Some singer Vanessa Hudgons first dance and saying her way
Speaker 2: into our Hearts and the much loved High School Musical Trilogy.
Speaker 2: And the music hasn't stopped for her now because now
Speaker 2: she's bringing her talents to the Broadway.
Speaker 4: Stage in the musical revival Jiji. That's right, Vanessa stars
Speaker 4: is the title character in the Room.
Speaker 2: I had to comedy about a young girl coming of
Speaker 2: age in Paris, and that's a good morning.
Speaker 4: It's good to see.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of work, very draining, but like,
Speaker 3: the interaction you have with the audience is something that's
Speaker 3: so intimate, and it's the only place as an actor
Speaker 3: that you have full creative freedom over your performance, whereas
Speaker 3: in film the editor does and the director does, and
Speaker 3: like what you see is not necessarily what you wanted
Speaker 3: the audience to see. But on Broadway it's like you
Speaker 3: have full creative rain. Obviously, like yes, stay within boundaries,
Speaker 3: but the connection that you have to the audience is
Speaker 3: something that's so intimate and the reaction is immediate, and
Speaker 3: you get that every single night. You know, it's like
Speaker 3: a conversation of energy. So it just if fueled being
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, I was tired. I mean I
Speaker 3: feel like I fell in love with theater because of
Speaker 3: Natalie Wood Westside Story was like the first musical I
Speaker 3: had ever seen, and I was just like in awe.
Speaker 3: Gypsy followed right after that, and I also love that
Speaker 3: world so much, so maybe Gypsy, but like there's so
Speaker 3: many amazing musicals.
Speaker 2: You ended up doing like kind of a mix when
Speaker 2: you did the Grease Live and the Rent Live. Like
Speaker 2: you know, and I hate to transition this so quickly,
Speaker 2: but we are in limited time. That you went on
Speaker 2: in Grease Live right after you had a tragic loss
Speaker 2: in your family, how were you able to go on live.
Speaker 1: The next day?
Speaker 3: Great compartmentalization, honestly, but like that's what my dad would
Speaker 3: have wanted, you know. It wasn't a sudden loss. He
Speaker 3: had been battling cans Or for a while and we
Speaker 3: actually thought that we had lost him three days prior,
Speaker 3: and then he came back, came to so I was
Speaker 3: actually with him like the night before, and I was
Speaker 3: just like, please God, like just like I know it's
Speaker 3: gonna happen, but just please not the night before. And
Speaker 3: of course I have the night before, and I was
Speaker 3: just like, Okay, there's no part of me that won't
Speaker 3: do this right now. It just like wasn't even an
Speaker 3: option like' that's what he would have wanted. And yeah, compartmentalizations.
Speaker 3: It's a really powerful thing, good or bad. But sometimes
Speaker 3: you know, it's like the fight or flight. You gotta
Speaker 3: do what you gotta do to survive.
Speaker 5: They say the show must go on, and for actress
Speaker 5: Vanessa Hudgens, it did, and she bravely performed the live
Speaker 5: TV version of Greece only twenty four hours after the
Speaker 5: death of her father. Vanessa sang and danced to her
Speaker 5: pain during the three hour production, and I came. It
Speaker 5: was heartrenching to hear her saying, there are worse things
Speaker 5: I could do.
Speaker 3: I went to yoga the next morning and I was
Speaker 3: in child's post and I remember having a vision of
Speaker 3: him where the clouds like the sky opened up and
Speaker 3: he was just like there, like glowing, and he looked healthy,
Speaker 3: and he had his mustache, which he had had my
Speaker 3: entire life but didn't hap at the end of his life.
Speaker 3: And he was just looking at me, smiling and like
Speaker 3: doing this little chuckle that he used to always do,
Speaker 3: which meantlet he was really proud.
Speaker 1: And I knew that like he was good. I knew
Speaker 1: that like it would be okay.
Speaker 3: But that was a moment that I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: like we this is something that you have to deal
Speaker 3: with this like and yeah, putting it off, like putting
Speaker 3: off attending to grief, even if it was for a
Speaker 3: I think, isn't necessarily the most healthy thing. It's not
Speaker 3: something I would recommend doing. Took a good amount of
Speaker 3: therapy to like actually break that wall down for myself.
Speaker 3: But again, you do what you got to do. Like,
Speaker 3: he sacrificed so much of his life so that I
Speaker 3: could get to where I am.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So and Mark Platt, the producer, did like a special
Speaker 3: honor message for him at the end of it, which
Speaker 3: was really special for me and my family. So yeah,
Speaker 3: definitely truly sweet. I wouldn't expect anything less.
Speaker 1: Vanessa Hudgens is killing it.
Speaker 3: The show even honored Greg Hudgens in the final credits
Speaker 3: with a touching dedication.
Speaker 2: At this point, Vanessa really had done it all, from
Speaker 2: acting in a vast range of films indeed Disney to Broadway,
Speaker 2: to judging for So You Think You Can Dance, to
Speaker 2: performing two live TV musicals and who can forget her
Speaker 2: as the reigning Queen of Coachella. Her impressive resume and
Speaker 2: reputation left room for a more dramatic pivot, a pivot
Speaker 2: into business. But first, a word from our sponsors. Now
Speaker 2: back to the show.
Speaker 3: I've learned recently that I am OCD. I love control,
Speaker 3: and as an actor, there's only so much that you
Speaker 3: can control. And I found myself with more time on
Speaker 3: my hands than I wanted. And one of my really
Speaker 3: dear friends was like, Hey, I think that we would
Speaker 3: do a great job at like starting a business together
Speaker 3: with my skill set and your skill set. If we
Speaker 3: put our minds together, I think that we could like
Speaker 3: really do something special. And so I was like, interesting,
Speaker 3: that's something I had never really thought about. And it
Speaker 3: took my friend all over Trina to be like, you
Speaker 3: got this, Like this is something I see in you.
Speaker 3: And then once like he ignited that flame, I was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 3: let's burn it down. Like I'm so ready and I'm
Speaker 3: so in, and it really does scratch a creative itch
Speaker 3: that I don't get elsewhere. I'm so hands on with
Speaker 3: everything when it comes to packaging, when it comes to messaging,
Speaker 3: when it comes to like ingredients, like I'm very passionate
Speaker 3: about what it is that I'm putting out to the world.
Speaker 2: In this day and age, it seems like every celebrity
Speaker 2: under the sign has either a tequila or a makeup brand.
Speaker 2: Vanessa made it clear that her businesses were born out
Speaker 2: of something.
Speaker 1: Deliberate, something deeply. Vanessa, there's so much on the market.
Speaker 3: We're constantly being bamboozled with the newest, next big thing.
Speaker 3: But the fact is, like these things are out because
Speaker 3: people are passionate about them and they believe in them,
Speaker 3: and small business owners need all the support in the
Speaker 3: world that they can get because it is such a
Speaker 3: saturated space and AMEX is honestly such a game changer
Speaker 3: as a small business owner, like, I've found the importance
Speaker 3: of keeping my personal and my business expenses separate because
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Speaker 3: So I'm like, they've always been really helpful for small businesses,
Speaker 3: and that's why I just like love, like really praising them,
Speaker 3: because it's tough.
Speaker 2: We're going to take a short break for some ads.
Speaker 2: Now back to the show.
Speaker 3: So I think it was around twenty nineteen and that happened,
Speaker 3: and I went on a road trip through New Mexico
Speaker 3: and I got a prickly paar of margarita and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, ooh, what if this magical? And why do
Speaker 1: I know nothing about it?
Speaker 3: So I looked into it and I realized prickly pear
Speaker 3: out all these health benefits. And I sent it to
Speaker 3: my friend and I was like, maybe we should do
Speaker 3: something around this, Like that's really interesting. He's like, great idea,
Speaker 3: I'll look into it. And then he came back to
Speaker 3: me He's like, did you know that cactuses actually produced
Speaker 3: their own water as well? Like maybe we have a
Speaker 3: beverage there. And I'm like, Oliver, you're a genius.
Speaker 1: Let's do it.
Speaker 3: And so like from there, we started working on their packaging,
Speaker 3: our ingredients, the taste profiles, which took a really long
Speaker 3: time because, like I said, I'm very specific and everything
Speaker 3: has to be perfect because I am OCD. But also
Speaker 3: like we wanted to figure out a component of giving
Speaker 3: back and like finding an organization that we can partner with,
Speaker 3: so that it's not just us, you know, like we
Speaker 3: want to make sure that we're like making a good
Speaker 3: impact on the world, and partnered with No Kid Hungary,
Speaker 3: which I was like newly aware of, and especially during
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, I was like what they were doing because
Speaker 3: obviously a hard time for everyone, but like especially families
Speaker 3: who can't provide nok and Hungary was still stepping in
Speaker 3: and making meals for the children and families. Even so,
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, great, we got our solid partnership.
Speaker 3: That was kind of like the last part of Cali
Speaker 3: Water for it to come together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we launched.
Speaker 6: The actress and singer is adding beverage line co founder
Speaker 6: to her resume. She and co founder Oliver Travina are
Speaker 6: launching a new product.
Speaker 1: It's called Caliwater.
Speaker 5: Products Expost twenty twenty two in Anaheim, California.
Speaker 4: I'm here with Vanessa Hudgens.
Speaker 5: She's known as an actress, but she's now the co
Speaker 5: founder of Cactus Water brand Cali Water.
Speaker 4: Vanessa, thank you for being here today.
Speaker 1: Of course, thank you for being here today.
Speaker 3: But then in that time, since I started scratching maticch,
Speaker 3: I was like, ooh, what abo Like, I also love skincare,
Speaker 3: such a skincare girly.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's something in that world.
Speaker 3: And like Madison Beer was like a new friend at
Speaker 3: that time and she was going through her own skincare journey,
Speaker 3: and I was like, maybe we can I put our
Speaker 3: minds together and like you I'm something new literally, and
Speaker 3: like that's honestly now talking about it, it makes me
Speaker 3: realize that like all of my business ventures have been
Speaker 3: joint efforts. Like none of them I've done on my own.
Speaker 3: They've literally been a collaboration. And I really lean on
Speaker 3: my collaborators heavily because nobody can do it all by themselves.
Speaker 1: No. The village, Yeah, it takes a village. Everything, everything
Speaker 1: takes a village. Literally, something you've learned about yourself in it,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, like I guess I knew it would be
Speaker 3: a lot of shmarracing, but it's like it really is
Speaker 3: all about the connections that you make, you know, And
Speaker 3: I'm so used to that from my industry and like
Speaker 3: going to all the award show parties and like doing
Speaker 3: the thing and I was like, oh, it's it's it's
Speaker 3: the same in business.
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna go talk to that owner of that market,
Speaker 1: and you know, like sell it with everything I got. Luckily,
Speaker 1: I'm a good salesperson yourself. Luckily I'm good at business.
Speaker 1: It turns out I'm trying. But yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of a lot of like building personal relationships,
Speaker 3: which I love because I really do love like people
Speaker 3: like I was talking about you earlier about like being
Speaker 3: on the subway and dancing with a random stranger. Like
Speaker 3: it's really interesting, and I feel like the more that
Speaker 3: I have these conversations with these other business owners, the
Speaker 3: more that I'm learning as well.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a it's a good trade off.
Speaker 2: What advice do you have for women who are looking
Speaker 2: to start small businesses or just pivot.
Speaker 3: I would say a find a good team that you trust,
Speaker 3: that you love, and that you respect. I think like
Speaker 3: having a team around you that you have all your
Speaker 3: faith in and rely on is one of the most
Speaker 3: fundamental things about being a business owner or being a
Speaker 3: business yourself, Like you got to have a solid team.
Speaker 3: Another thing, honestly, is like separating your finances, your personal
Speaker 3: and your business expenses. Keep those bad boys separate because
Speaker 3: there's so much room for you to be able to
Speaker 3: build off of what you're already doing if you have
Speaker 3: a business account and the American Expressed Business Goal Card
Speaker 3: is phenomenal at that.
Speaker 1: And also like do the work, Like.
Speaker 3: Don't shy away from any of it, whether that's like
Speaker 3: going to your packagers or going to all the meetings,
Speaker 3: going to the conferences. I literally go to beverage conferences
Speaker 3: and I'm like standing behind our Cali waterbooth, hand pouring
Speaker 3: the little testers and handing them out and having the
Speaker 3: best time ever because I'm sharing something that I'm so
Speaker 3: passionate about.
Speaker 1: So like, don't skimp on the work. Do it all.
Speaker 2: What is something in your life that at the time
Speaker 2: you saw was like a real negative but now you
Speaker 2: see it having really launched you into the success that
Speaker 2: you are now.
Speaker 3: I feel like so much of my character was built
Speaker 3: from my breakups. Also, the tenacity I have, I think
Speaker 3: is like from starting in my career at such an
Speaker 3: early age and dealing with so much rejection that like
Speaker 3: you really have to build a very strong backbone in
Speaker 3: order to keep doing it when everyone's telling you no.
Speaker 1: That builds a lot of character.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I feel like my last breakup has really
Speaker 3: catapulted me to a very very special place obviously if you.
Speaker 1: Pushed me to the right person, which I'm so grateful for.
Speaker 3: Because he's just the most supportive, real understanding human being
Speaker 3: that I've ever met.
Speaker 2: Well, I also love that you answered with a personal
Speaker 2: don't like if we're trying, if we're thinking about how
Speaker 2: the personal and the professional.
Speaker 1: And they really go hand in hand.
Speaker 2: Like being in public relationships over the years, it feels
Speaker 2: like people feel like they have a right to weigh in,
Speaker 2: like how have you dealt with that? And also you
Speaker 2: know there might be like power dynamic imbalances or balances
Speaker 2: in relationships, like your relationships have been so public.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like I literally just had
Speaker 3: a run in with the public taking control over their
Speaker 3: opinion of me in a.
Speaker 1: Way that was disrespectful.
Speaker 3: I went on my bachelorette and I posted a video
Speaker 3: of me and there are all these comments that are like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, you're pregnant, and I was like, that
Speaker 3: is so rude.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I don't wear spanks every day and like, am a
Speaker 3: real woman and have a real body.
Speaker 7: Vanessa Hudgens fans convinced she's pregnant off the spot and
Speaker 7: clues at Aspen Potty. The high school musical star shared
Speaker 7: a video on Instagram showing off her bachelorette party, but
Speaker 7: fans thought they spotted signs of pregnancy.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm literally like celebrating one of the
Speaker 3: happiest times in my life, and you guys are just
Speaker 3: going to make me like feel fat.
Speaker 1: That's that's great things.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, you know, I think that it's a
Speaker 3: good place for me to remind other women of like
Speaker 3: the Four Agreements, you know, the Forour Agreements. No, actually,
Speaker 3: it's by Don Miguel Louise. It's a fantastic book. It
Speaker 3: honestly changed my perspective when I was probably nineteen years
Speaker 3: old and really opened up my eyes to like the
Speaker 3: connectivity of like the universe and like simple rules for
Speaker 3: being a good person, and one of them is don't
Speaker 3: make assumptions, and like, yes that in all aspects of life,
Speaker 3: but especially over other women's bodies. You know, like we
Speaker 3: deal with so much with other people trying to control
Speaker 3: our bodies, not let's not make assumption over other women's
Speaker 3: bodies as well. So you know, the things that I
Speaker 3: do have to face, while they're not the most pleasant,
Speaker 3: and maybe don't make me feel the greatest about myself.
Speaker 3: I can then take that and share the message and
Speaker 3: hopefully remind others to, you know, fee a little more mindful.
Speaker 3: Nothing weng and being pregnant obviously like I can't wait
Speaker 3: for the day, but like, don't make.
Speaker 1: Assumptions over women's bodies. Totally. Well, thank you so much, Vanessa.
Speaker 1: Great to have you on. Thank you so much, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Vanessa is still continuing to grow her businesses, which include
Speaker 2: Calie Water Known Beauty, and her latest venture, Thomas Ashbourne
Speaker 2: Kraft Spirits. She lives with her adorable dog and new husband,
Speaker 2: Cole Tucker in La.
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