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Speaker 2: going to get right to it here. Tanya sigonofski am

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Speaker 2: I saying that right, great, Yeah, I'm Polish, so I'm

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Speaker 2: I think you're Polish too, based on this.

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Speaker 3: Dame Russian or Russian Ukrainian Ukrainian.

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Speaker 2: Close enough, we're cousins. She's an out and proud lesbian

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Speaker 2: who voted for Donald Trump and told her friends about it,

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Speaker 2: and now she's been locked out of most of her

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Speaker 2: friend groups and she's going public with what it's been

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Speaker 2: like for her. We just played the little two minute

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Speaker 2: story that Fox eleven did on you right before the news.

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Speaker 2: When did you decide you were going to tell people

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Speaker 2: you're voting for Trump because your recent voting history was

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Speaker 2: Hillary and twenty sixteen Biden in twenty twenty And is

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Speaker 2: this something that you and your friends always talked about

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Speaker 2: and there was a day that you had to say, hey,

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Speaker 4: No, it was more of me watching everything happened on

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Speaker 4: campuses over the last year. You know, in my friend groups,

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Speaker 4: based on my voting history, based on what I look like,

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Speaker 4: am always going to be blue. So the conversation about

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Speaker 4: who I'm going to vote for wasn't actually a question.

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Speaker 4: The assumption was always there. But after watching what was

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Speaker 4: nothing to prevent students from Jewish students from attending their classes,

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Speaker 4: I realized that I am doing a disservice to my

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Speaker 4: it's been festering all year. I have been very very

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Speaker 4: vocal about being a Zionist, which has already alienated me

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Speaker 4: from queer spaces because at this point, especially in La

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Speaker 4: my people, my Jewish people, because as much as I

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Speaker 4: And I feel like I fear that that was the

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Speaker 4: So I decided I needed to be honest about my

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Speaker 3: And so that's what I do.

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Speaker 2: No I can identify with this, I mean not only

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Speaker 1: And why is it that so many in your community

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Speaker 4: I think that Israel comes off as powerful. I think

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Speaker 4: No, there's no, there hasn't been room for conversation. That

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Speaker 2: And going back to the beginning, so is this just

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Speaker 4: No, essentially, I you know, I utilized my social media

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Speaker 2: But you explained the part about the Palestinian demonstrations and

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Speaker 4: Somehow, you know, everyone is trying to say that Trump

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Speaker 4: But I'm also still a Jew, So if I would

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Speaker 3: The lesbian in me or the Jew in me. Now,

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Speaker 4: Why is that somehow less of an issue than someone

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Speaker 4: And if someone else does happen to vote for their

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Speaker 4: I don't look at someone that voted for Kamala and

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Speaker 4: It's absolutely become a cult, and it's horrifying and very sad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And the irony, and this has been pointed out

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And that's that's what's really scary, because at the

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Speaker 4: end of the day, politics, laws, everything is ever changing.

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Speaker 4: And if you're constantly going to keep preaching the same

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Speaker 2: Have you been surprised, I'm I'm sure you've noticed this

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Speaker 2: by this before question it, before discuss these kinds of

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Speaker 4: You know, honestly, I feel like I have to take

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Speaker 4: me now way back when, if you voted for Trump,

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Speaker 3: What I have here.

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Speaker 4: And I think that so many people here are just

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Tanya Sigonovsky, Yes, And she is by her own

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Speaker 4: I've had a few of those messages, not in particular

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Speaker 4: had maybe a couple out of forty reach out and say,

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Speaker 4: to have those conversations. But I've had many random messages

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Speaker 4: I just wasn't allowed to vote for Trump, but I'm

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Speaker 3: Or I'm telling me that you know I.

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Speaker 4: Voted, but I told people that I voted for Jill Stein,

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Speaker 2: Well, Tanya, thank you for coming on. Of course, thank

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Speaker 2: we had a really unusual interview with Tanya Sikonofski in

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Speaker 2: It says, where you get somebody who's who's that reasonable, intelligent, articulate, thoughtful.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, and then the then the time runs out,

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Speaker 7: If you don't want a man that voted for President Trump,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a few guys who did.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know. They seem to hate men at a

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Speaker 2: much deeper level that Trump has just become a symbol.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was the same. It can't just be about.

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Speaker 2: No, it's that they assume that we're all filthy, disgusting

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Speaker 2: animals and all we have are violent sexual thoughts in

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Speaker 2: our heads.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean that isn't a lie.

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Speaker 2: All right, That doesn't make me a bad person.

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Speaker 6: Oh it doesn't. Oh, you have all those things going on.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you know, I'm most of the guys I know

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Speaker 2: are not like that.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad that you don't hang out with guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've always been like amused by all this.

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Speaker 2: It's like, all right, I'm sure there are you know,

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Speaker 2: some fraternity brother types right who are barbarians, But that's

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Speaker 2: always going to be with us. That's always been with us.

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Speaker 2: But somehow all guys are getting tard with this with

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Speaker 2: this brush.

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Speaker 7: Hey, look, if they don't want to be with men,

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Speaker 7: then I mean, then that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if somebody hates me that much just

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Speaker 2: because I'm a man, believe me, I'm not looking for trouble.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to ask you out.

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Speaker 6: Well, you're not going to do that anyway.

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Speaker 2: You're married, no, I know.

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Speaker 1: But just theoretically, if I'm a young guy out there

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Speaker 1: and I hear this, I mean a woman and she

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Speaker 1: spills out this, it's like, hey, I don't want to date,

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: Want need sex. I certainly don't want to get married.

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Speaker 1: There'll be no kids because I don't want life with you.

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Speaker 2: You're out of your mind.

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Speaker 1: So I mean that it's going to be a self

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Speaker 1: self fulfilling prophecy that if they don't want anything to

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Speaker 1: do with men, then okay, fine, believe me, guys will

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Speaker 1: run like how to get out of there?

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Speaker 7: Will we have more lesbians? I mean, is that what's

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Speaker 7: going to happen? Not that there's anything wrong with that,

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Speaker 7: but is that what they're going.

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Speaker 6: To choose to do.

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Speaker 2: I guess maybe they're just going to choose to have

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Speaker 2: a kind of a sexless group community relationship with other

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Speaker 2: women who feel the same way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well you'll save a lot of money not having kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like, it's good that you're upfront about that.

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Speaker 1: I think all these women should post online. Maybe we

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Speaker 1: can come up with a new set of pronouns or something,

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Speaker 1: or just write no, no, no, no, no no for

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Speaker 1: the four categories, and then you look online. Put that

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Speaker 1: on the dating app. Although I don't know why you'd

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Speaker 1: be on a dating you wouldn't be on it. No,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't be on a dating app. But just in general,

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Speaker 1: put no, no, no, no, the four no's. They call

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Speaker 1: it the four bees in Korea. I would call it

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Speaker 1: the four no's. And then we noticed stay away, you know,

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Speaker 1: just three hands up, surrender in advance.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 2: This happened Thursday. Do you hear about this? Thursday night,

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Speaker 2: the Coast Guard intercepted a boat with twenty one I

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Speaker 2: legal aliens on it off the coast to Newport Beach.

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Speaker 2: They saw they thought the boat was acting suspiciously. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what that means. I don't know how a

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Speaker 2: boat acts suspiciously. But twenty one migrants were arrested, eighteen

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Speaker 2: of them Mexicans, two from Uzbekistan, and one Russian. And

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Speaker 2: this had happened in Newport Harbor back in May, twenty

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Speaker 2: migrants were seen walking onto a pier and then scattering

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Speaker 2: into town. This time the coast Guard apprehended the twenty

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Speaker 2: one migrants because they were still on the boat. And

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Speaker 2: we've got a clip here, pay we're gonna play cup three.

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Speaker 2: Matt Seedarf interviewed the mayor of Newport Beach, Will O'Neil

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Speaker 2: from Newport Beach, and he's really upset.

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Speaker 8: When you have people from Who's Bekistan of all places

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Speaker 8: coming in through the southern border.

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Speaker 2: Something is broken.

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Speaker 8: Every city in California right now is essentially a border city.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to the law SB fifty four.

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Speaker 8: We are told that our local authorities are prohibited from

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Speaker 8: working with federal authorities to try to stop.

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Speaker 2: People like this.

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Speaker 8: There's no way that you intend on trying to protect

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Speaker 8: who's becky nationals coming in from our southern border. Get

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Speaker 8: your act together, figure this out, because we are having

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Speaker 8: real problems affecting real people and on your cities all

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Speaker 8: across California. You cannot continue to treat every city in

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Speaker 8: California like a border city.

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Speaker 2: You cannot put us in this position. We have real problems.

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Speaker 2: We need you to fix them. Now, get your act together.

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Speaker 2: You know, everybody in the state is yelling at Newsom

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Speaker 2: over one thing or another that we just can't put

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Speaker 2: up with anymore. Nationally, people got fed up with the

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Speaker 2: Biden administration, and there's been a lot of converts, maybe

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Speaker 2: not necessarily Trump's supporters, but they're willing to vote for

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Speaker 2: Trump because Biden and Kamala Harris was they were so

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Speaker 2: terrible that revolutionary spirit's got to come to California. Here.

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Speaker 2: You can't put up a Newsom. You know, you look

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Speaker 2: at the incredibly high taxes, the incredibly high gas prices

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Speaker 2: and electricity prices. I mean, this is the epicenter of inflation.

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Speaker 2: We got the second highest unemployment, second, highest gas prices,

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Speaker 2: highest gas taxes, highest electricity prices, and it's all because

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Speaker 2: of Newsom's policies. It's going back, actually, you know, almost

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Speaker 2: twenty years, and I'm waiting for people to coalesce around

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Speaker 2: an alternative. And it's got to be in the next

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Speaker 2: election cycle because his policies can't go on. This this

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Speaker 2: this mandate to ban gas powered cars, which is now

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Speaker 2: only ten years away. It's got to be reversed, and

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Speaker 2: the next governor has to reverse it, and you have

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Speaker 2: to vote for him because he or she is willing

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Speaker 2: to reverse it. Conways, here, I got something for you.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what do you got man?

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Speaker 1: I heard you talking the other day about how much

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Speaker 1: I needed money.

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Speaker 2: Ben and his brother's back in the news, and you

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Speaker 2: remembered the fry the men indies and you remember the

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Speaker 2: poster that we had that night with the frying picture

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Speaker 2: and I had this.

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Speaker 1: Take a look at that. Oh that's great. Plen's the

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Speaker 1: glass framed up with this on social media. Yeah, fry

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Speaker 1: them and then die. That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: I think we know. Yeah, it was somebody put it

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Speaker 2: on like styrofoam.

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Speaker 1: He's going to come after us too. He's going to

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Speaker 1: come after you and me when they get out, because

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Speaker 1: we you know Leslie Abramson. Their lawyers said, you can't

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Speaker 1: get a fair trial in this town because of idiots

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Speaker 1: like Conway and Seckler. You don't think if they if

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Speaker 1: they're willing to kill their parents in cold blood while

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Speaker 1: they're eating ice cream, you don't think they're going to

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Speaker 1: kill a couple of radio idiots.

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Speaker 2: I never thought of that until I heard you say

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Speaker 2: that the other day, and I'm thinking, you know, he's right,

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Speaker 2: it's a lea and say I'm against release. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: a totally against release just for that. I have a

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Speaker 2: personal investment in that. Right.

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Speaker 1: But can't you call your your guy hawkman? I mean

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Speaker 1: you did him a solid by putting them in office.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it works that way. It does,

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Speaker 2: you know it does. He's squeaky clean.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: It works that way.

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Speaker 1: Favors and government. You don't think that George Clooney and

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Speaker 1: all those guys, all those celebrities get anything out of

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Speaker 1: U dorsing Kamala Harris Well, Oprah got what two.

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Speaker 2: And a half million?

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Speaker 1: That's true, Yeah, Oprah got a good paycheck. Right, So

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Speaker 1: you get and she needed it too. You're not asking

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Speaker 1: for money, You're just asking these two idiots don't kill you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's easy. Only have to just keep them

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Speaker 2: locked up. That's right.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to try him again. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to investigation. You don't have to have like one hundred

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Speaker 1: investigators until you and I are dead and then they

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Speaker 1: can release. Yeah, you meet Ken and Stecklan. That's the

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Speaker 1: four that he's going they're going after. Alex Stone is

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Speaker 1: coming on tonight. We'll talk about Spirit airlines. I guess

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Speaker 1: they ran that era laid line into the ground. Also,

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Speaker 1: we have remember that story last about a month ago,

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Speaker 1: guy driving up near Arrowhead and two big boulders fell.

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Speaker 2: On his van. That's it.

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Speaker 1: We got that guy coming on today. It's a wild story,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean these you know, eighteen ton boulders

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Speaker 1: crashed into his brand new van.

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Speaker 2: That almost killed him. We've been driving up to Arrowhead

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Speaker 2: for over twenty five years, and so many times there

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Speaker 2: have been rocks like oh yeah that close eighteen or

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Speaker 2: or there's uh well, either rocks coming down from above,

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Speaker 2: or the highway gives way down and go falls down below.

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Speaker 1: Right, because the mountains are constantly moving.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and it's not meant to have roads along

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Speaker 2: the side of it. That's not a thing. That's right.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll have Rich murd to talk about the fight.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get to see much of it. I was

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Speaker 1: buffering a lot of the night, buffering and Burbank that

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Speaker 1: you watch a fight.

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Speaker 2: No, I was at that night, but you didn't miss anything,

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Speaker 2: That's what I heard. Yeah, the old guy doesn't got

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Speaker 2: it anymore. Man. I love that guy.

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Speaker 1: He went well, he went one round. I know he

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Speaker 1: went he went no, but I mean one round where

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Speaker 1: he had the first round it looked like he was.

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Speaker 1: He was winning after round one and then he you know,

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Speaker 1: when you're sixty father time always wins man, always knocks down.

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Speaker 2: That sucks because I love that guy.

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Speaker 1: I used to watch so many Mike Tyson Fox when

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Speaker 1: I was younger, and we had him on the show too.

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Speaker 2: He's a great guy. Man. A few words, which is

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Speaker 2: not great for radio. That's the number one requirements, right,

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Speaker 2: you have to say something that's right. All right, Comedy's

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Speaker 2: coming up. The big dog with you, bro. Michael Kreuzer

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Speaker 2: has the news live in the KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey,

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Speaker 2: you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You

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Speaker 2: can always hear the show live on KFI Am six

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Speaker 2: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday,

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Speaker 2: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.