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Speaker 2: to civilian and their rockstar story. And today's guest is

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Speaker 2: no different. And Mark Valentine is my guest today. And

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Speaker 2: Mark comes from a very dynamic background. All right, so

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Speaker 2: a fighter pilot in the United States Air Force. Now

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Speaker 2: he is currently the president of the Global Government of

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Speaker 2: Business for Skidio Think sky Studio, Skydio. Okay, I want

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Speaker 2: you to think that out there, Skydio. And we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about drones and technology. And let's welcome Mark

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Speaker 2: to the show. Mark welcome.

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Speaker 3: Hey, appreciate it V.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, I've got commercials on TV now

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Speaker 4: that tell me we're not allowed to call ourselves rock

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Speaker 4: stars in business. I'm going to get somebody from Kiss

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Speaker 4: breaking down my door here. Tell me I can't do that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you can do it all you want, brother, It's okay,

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Speaker 2: come at us, Kiss. Where are you at? Rock and roll? Now, listen,

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Speaker 2: before you sat in this chair that you're in, and

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Speaker 2: you got this huge long title of President of the

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Speaker 2: Global Government of Business of Skidio. Okay, what a title.

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Speaker 2: Before that, you were in the military, you were Air Force, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So I actually before I came to Skydio, I worked

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Speaker 4: in the AI business. I built a federal business at

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Speaker 4: scale AI. So I did that for several years, and

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Speaker 4: I also ran the national security team at Microsoft for

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Speaker 4: about seven years. And then prior to that. So, I

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Speaker 4: retired in twenty fifteen from the US military and flew

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Speaker 4: fighters for the most of my time there in the

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Speaker 4: Air Force, did some of the standard Pentagon tours and

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Speaker 4: all the things you'd expect.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever get the chance to meet Bill Gates

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Speaker 2: working at Microsoft?

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Speaker 4: In that I did meet Bill Gates, but it was

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Speaker 4: chairman in Satia had come on as the CEO. So

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Speaker 4: and by the way, you want to talk about phenomenal leader,

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Speaker 4: Satia Nadella is a phenomenal leader. But I didn't get

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Speaker 4: a chance to meet Bill Gates a couple times before

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Speaker 4: I joined the company.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I just find that cool. You know, you worked

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Speaker 2: in his space. You got to at least bump in through,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, if you're going to work at Microsoft,

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Speaker 2: you might as well say, did you meet Bill Gates?

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious. I mean, he has a really, really

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Speaker 2: I've learned that now when it comes to F sixteen's,

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Speaker 2: I've had my experience with some F sixteen's. Right. I

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Speaker 2: the South Gate. Do you remember Hill Air Force Space?

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Speaker 2: You said you kind of played around there a little bit.

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Speaker 4: There were some really weird visual illusions you could get

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Speaker 4: a sad story, but a really good friend named Dylan McFarlane,

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Speaker 4: this was in the nineties, who's doing a training mission

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Speaker 4: in the water. Really really tragic story. So anyway, I

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Speaker 4: didn't mean to bring it down.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I love that. I don't love the

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Speaker 2: fact that that happened. I just know that happened. I

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Speaker 2: also remember when the Blackhawks in ninety three or ninety

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Speaker 2: Antelope Island to go out to the Antelope Island. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's a memorial there, and I think your friend has

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Speaker 4: And it's one of those things that reminds you that,

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Speaker 2: Well, if anything, you gave him a shout out, and

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Speaker 2: another shout out for that and bro f sixteen's man,

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Speaker 2: not the easiest stick to move, right, I learned that

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Speaker 2: in the eighties they just gave it like two pounds

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Speaker 4: First, and so just since the force in your hand

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Speaker 4: all directions. Right now, he'si electric sensor that you know,

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Speaker 4: since the force stayed the same, but they just gave

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Speaker 4: So from a human factors is every thing. You wouldn't

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my instructor, he was like, you're going to

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Speaker 2: I'm like girl ger He's like one guy was putting

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Speaker 2: which is where they started to loosen it back in

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Speaker 3: But like the.

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Speaker 4: Maxis, but really anything over thirty it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: But you don't know that.

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Speaker 4: Man, you're just cranking on that thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just cranking, You're like. And the thing is

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Speaker 2: is I think of the the demo team the Thunderbirds. Yeah, bro,

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Speaker 2: like eighteen inches away, fourteen inches, sixteen inches away from

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Speaker 2: each other's wing tips, and they're just like, it's it's

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Speaker 2: just feeling my pressure of my hand. It's totally cool.

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Speaker 2: Like what's in my head goes to my hand and

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Speaker 2: I could just like and I looked to my right

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Speaker 4: Well, the cool thing is once you got used to it,

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Speaker 4: like you know, you didn't put as much force on it,

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Speaker 4: and it didn't get easier to do, but we would

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Speaker 4: call it. We didn't call it a stick anymore. We're

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Speaker 3: And you can just because you were just rotating.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right now, it's the see coming up this weekend.

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Speaker 2: We're preparing for the air show. So we have the

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Speaker 2: F thirty this weekend, that is this weekend. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: the demo team's going to be there. They've got like

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Speaker 2: twenty different people flying C fives are already coming in,

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Speaker 2: just outside the south Gate. I own a building that's

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Speaker 2: just out there. There's huge parking lot and there's a

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Speaker 2: airsoft war games inside of there. So all the youth

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Speaker 2: and everybody come in and fight each other and we

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Speaker 2: do all these war games, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you have an F sixteen flying over. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you want sound effects? You want sound effects with your

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Speaker 2: war games? How about F thirty fives? You want F

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Speaker 2: thirty fives? Huh that's right off the ground too.

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Speaker 4: So there's a halftic thing he got going on.

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Speaker 2: Well, and some of them are are are customers, Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's be clear. They got kids, and those kids are

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Speaker 2: like thirteen to fifteen and they want to play airsoft.

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Speaker 2: So here comes like the general of the base. One

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Speaker 2: year He's like, rad I'm the general of the base,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, do I stand up and salute?

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Speaker 2: It's been a minute. He's like no, no, no, And

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Speaker 2: then the next day he came in to pick up

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Speaker 2: his son's gun, and he was in full uniform, and

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you're the general. You weren't kidding, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: He had his like little star on his bear jacket

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Speaker 2: and I never saw the star over there. I've always

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Speaker 2: seen it like, but he had his on and I

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Speaker 2: was like, all right, bro, So were you a part

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Speaker 2: of those guys up there? Did you fight? Did you

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Speaker 2: fly with like the the Black Widows or the Rams,

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Speaker 2: the rude Rams?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: No, So I was over stationed at him, but I

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Speaker 4: flew up there a lot. We did an exercise called

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Speaker 4: combat Hammer, which we would drop live weapons, and I

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Speaker 4: of white glove service. So from end to end, I mean,

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00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 4: it's a phenomenal engine to watch, and we do have

437
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 4: tons of veterans that are working across the company.

438
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,360
Speaker 2: I love that. You should just keep talking. I'll just listen.

439
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna listen to you. No, it's so you know,

440
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 2: you're laying so well, that's what I love about it.

441
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 2: So let me there's a place here called Rio tinto Mine. Okay,

442
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 2: let's just heard. I'm gonna step away from the combat

443
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,920
Speaker 2: aspect of the drone and talk about like a mine

444
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 2: aspect of a drone. Right, And there's a big, huge

445
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 2: smelter that's just outside of you know, on the way

446
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 2: to Tuila, Utah. If you've recognized that smelter. So you're

447
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 2: saying that this drone can go up inside of that

448
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 2: smelter without risking the life of somebody having to repel

449
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 2: down inside of it to check its infrastructure.

450
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,959
Speaker 4: You have now hammered in the thesis behind a company

451
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 4: like Skydio. And I tell this a lot to our

452
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 4: internal teams, and many people don't like to hear this,

453
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, rad no one

454
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 4: really cares about a drone. What people care about is

455
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 4: what the drone can do for them, whatever their businesses,

456
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 4: whatever their mission is. How can this mobile sensor help

457
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 4: me do that job better? That is the goal and

458
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 4: so and you bring up another great point, right, So,

459
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people, especially in this audience,

460
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 4: are watching, you know, the news, or reading the news,

461
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 4: or maybe have access to information you and I don't

462
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 4: have access to any longer about what's happening in Ukraine.

463
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 4: And you know, we're seeing these FPV drones being flown

464
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 4: into Russian tanks and we're like, wow, that's that's pretty amazing.

465
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,479
Speaker 4: And so I think, you know, that is the scene

466
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 4: part of what what drones are doing to transform the

467
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 4: battlefield and maybe the future. But there's a whole part

468
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 4: that I think is unseen. And you brought up a

469
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 4: great point. So this smelter that you're talking about, what

470
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 4: at Skytia we are a dual use company, so which

471
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 4: means we work with commercial businesses you know, state, local,

472
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 4: ent c d's, et cetera. And you know US government

473
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 4: national level governments, which by the way, is where the

474
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,479
Speaker 4: title of global government came from. It's US federal and

475
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 4: national level governments around.

476
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Speaker 2: Would be so easy, yeah, exactly.

477
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Speaker 4: But anyway, what we're seeing in the commercial space are

478
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 4: more and more people because again there's no FPV you know,

479
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 4: go kill Russian tanks mission analogous and the commercial sector.

480
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 4: But people are using these drones, especially drones like the

481
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 4: ones we make it Skydier that have the autonomous capabilities

482
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 4: so that anyone can fly them. You don't necessarily have

483
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 4: to be a you know, fully trained operator with thirty

484
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 4: thousand hours of operating an aerial vehicle to be able

485
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 4: to get value out of this. So where we're seeing

486
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 4: this happen are places like utility inspections, so right now

487
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 4: they're utility companies, and especially in Utah, you see this

488
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 4: where you've got you know, I don't know what the

489
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Speaker 4: name of it is, but we'll call it Utah Power

490
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 4: and Light for lack.

491
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: Of a better fiend, God, it's yeah, Upul's.

492
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 4: That's what we'll call it right. So they probably have

493
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 4: hundreds of trucks, like fleets of trucks that they all

494
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 4: the time, and hundreds of people. And they give them

495
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 4: a map and they go go check these four stations

496
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 4: today and they drive around, they take pictures, they come back,

497
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 4: someone downloads the pictures, someone else looks at them, and

498
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 4: then five days later they go, oh, we've got a

499
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 4: broken insulator on you know, schmuck Andy schmuck number two,

500
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 4: And they go, okay, now you go fix that. Where

501
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 4: think about this. What if you could have a smart

502
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,479
Speaker 4: intelligence sensor that you could hit a button and in

503
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 4: say thirty minutes, it has done a three D scan

504
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 4: at the millimeter level of accuracy without a human touching

505
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 4: or stick or a throttle all around that substation and

506
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 4: it sends you back in notification that says, dude, transformer

507
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 4: number two on Schmuck Andy Schmuck number one.

508
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 3: Is broken, send a new one.

509
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 4: Just imagine the royu would get out of that. So

510
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 4: that that is actually happening right now. Where there are

511
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 4: drones living in little docks, which think about them is

512
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 4: like pizza boxes. They look like an old mailbox and

513
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 4: they sit in there out of the wather they're charging,

514
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 4: they can transmit then either autonomously or on command. This

515
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 4: dude comes out, does this autonomous inspection, reads all the

516
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 4: gauges with this camera, transmits that all back to the

517
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: operation center, lands back in the dock.

518
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: Done.

519
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 4: I mean, that is happening today. And so the cool

520
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 4: part of what I get to do is see those

521
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 4: innovations happening in the commercial sector and figure out how

522
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 4: can we pull that into say the government.

523
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 3: Or the defense sector.

524
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 4: And we all know, you know, again going back to

525
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 4: the scene part, what's going on in Ukraine. We see

526
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 4: that piece and we see how tact class are drones

527
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 4: are acting as spotters for the fpvs and the one

528
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 4: to five to five coming in. But not many people,

529
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 4: I think, recognize that the vast majority of even the

530
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 4: Defense Department, they're not doing that kind of stuff. They're

531
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Speaker 4: supporting their building, et cetera. And so trying to bring

532
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 4: these capabilities into that environment so you know, our US

533
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 4: Department of Defense and Allied militaries can get the same

534
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 4: benefits of them. So we can get to that that

535
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 4: you know, ultimate goal of predictive maintenance, and you know,

536
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 4: we're doing stuff so we can focus the limited assets

537
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 4: we have on combat power, I think is a really

538
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 4: phenomenal opportunity.

539
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: And that's what I love about being here.

540
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 2: Who's the threat right now that's doing this that we're watching,

541
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 2: that's trying to get their drones out? Who who's the

542
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: you on the other side of this? Is there somebody else?

543
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 2: Or are we pretty much like you know, air superiority

544
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 2: in the air force. That's what we were taught. We

545
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: are the you know, the best in the air. Is

546
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: there someone else trying to come at us that is

547
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: doing this? Should I be more aware other than skidio

548
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: who's on my side quote unquote versus the other guy?

549
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 2: Was there someone out there?

550
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

551
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 4: So I think there are some great American companies that

552
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 4: are getting into space. Again, personally, admittedly out of a bias,

553
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 4: I think we of Skydio have a lead there. But

554
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 4: outside of that, I think the vast majority of the

555
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 4: competitive threat just in drones and journals coming from China,

556
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 4: which you know you had asked earlier about, you know,

557
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 4: the potential Chinese drone band. There are legitimate security concerns

558
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: that people should be aware of when they're operating Chinese drones.

559
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 4: And I'll just point people there was a unclassified paper

560
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 4: released by the FBI and SISA, the Cyber Infrastructure Security Agency,

561
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 4: which kindified some of those risks.

562
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: I see, So there's it's out there, and where's my

563
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: net gun? What am I going to use? What's gonna

564
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 2: stop it?

565
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 3: You know?

566
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: How do we you know, how do we stop this?

567
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, did we not see terminator?

568
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 3: You know?

569
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: And I get that, and I want to see. Okay,

570
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 2: now I see the first person drone footage, and sometimes

571
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: I see things I don't want to see because of it. Hey, rad,

572
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: check this footage out, you know, And I'm like, I

573
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: don't know if I wanted to see that footage, right,

574
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 2: but it's done with drones. Yeah, it's like right up

575
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 2: their tailpipe. Yeah, And like that's not a person happened

576
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: to die to do that, per se, you know, in

577
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: the drone like b I got. I got a friend

578
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: who I've known since he was about fifteen and today

579
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 2: he's about twenty four. He's on through a military academy.

580
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 2: He's gone through schooling, and he talked to me the other

581
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: day and he's like, I'm going to the Air Force academy.

582
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: I was like, sweet, He's like, I'm going to be

583
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: a pilot. I was like, where are you gonna fly?

584
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: He's like drones. Yeah. I was like, that's right, not

585
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: just S sixteen's or a tens or F thirty five's,

586
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: but whatever else they got in their their drones. And

587
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: he's got like a big gulp, you know, next to

588
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: his flight suit on. You know, he's got air podd in.

589
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: He's just doing his job.

590
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 3: That's how I see what rad it's.

591
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 4: So, first off, I'm an alumnus of the institution you

592
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 4: just mentioned, and so I've got you know, I mentor

593
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: a lot of young men and women that want to

594
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 4: go to service academies and ended up going, and so

595
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: you know, I'm seeing a lot more of them enter

596
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 4: the drones space. And I was actually in the cockpit

597
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 4: in the F sixteen when you know, the first m

598
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 4: q ones started to come into use, and then or sorry,

599
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 4: the RQ ones and then later the m Q ones

600
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 4: they could actually shoot stuff. And this was right after

601
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 4: September eleventh, which long story short, I was a Cannon

602
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 4: Air Force Base in New Mexico, and then I was

603
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 4: moving to Andrews Air Force Base in Washington, d C.

604
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 4: And my first day of work at Andrews Air Force Base.

605
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 4: So I was a young captain at the time. Was

606
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 4: September eleventh, two thousand and one.

607
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: Wow, and so really we can.

608
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 4: Talk about it separately, but a lot of time to

609
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: show up. But a lot of things changed right after

610
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 4: September eleventh, which many of us saw here in the States.

611
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 4: But obviously, you know, we started prosecuting a war in

612
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 4: Afghanistan and that was the first overt use of an

613
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: uncrewed aerial system, which again was the RQ one at

614
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 4: the time, or the Predator, And you know, I think

615
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 4: people start to go, okay, interesting, you know, it's great,

616
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 4: we can put up this high endurance platform they can orbit,

617
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 4: which by the way, that worked because me had air superiority.

618
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: No one's shooting it down.

619
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Speaker 4: And now I think it's airborne for let's say, ten

620
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 4: twenty hours and feedback this phenomenal taxical intelligence that then

621
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 4: our ground forces can use to be able to better

622
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: prosecute their targets and a comp cert mission.

623
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: Awesome.

624
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 4: Then we started adding health fire missiles to it, you know,

625
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: and we started shooting those and it's really interesting, right

626
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 4: and you know a lot of manned fighter pilots and

627
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: I will admit I fell into this category at one

628
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 4: point in time. We used to look at that and go, okay, well,

629
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: these these aren't real pilots, right, Okay, They're not putting

630
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 4: their life on the line. Their butt's not in the

631
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: combat zone, they're not getting shot at. But I tell

632
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 4: you what, I have super amount of respect for the

633
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 4: people who do that. And it took me time to

634
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 4: figure this out. But like when I would deploy and

635
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: fly in those environments and do those missions, I was

636
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 4: with a unit of people and we were all in

637
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 4: the same boat, and we would do our missions during

638
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 4: the day or night or whatever, and then we would

639
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 4: come back to our base and you're in your tent

640
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: or whatever it was, and you were around other people

641
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: who had done that, and it gave you a chance

642
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 4: to communicate, to offload these feelings that come with with

643
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 4: doing things like that that you know, humans just aren't

644
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 4: necessarily wired to do. But imagine this. Imagine you're sitting

645
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 4: in a cubicle same here in Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada,

646
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 4: and you're flying an airplane that is seven thousand miles away.

647
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 4: You were watching a target, an individual for hours, and

648
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 4: then you are you know, directed to essentially shoot your

649
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 4: missile and take that life, and then ten minutes later

650
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 4: read you drive your kids soccer game. Imagine that, I mean,

651
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 4: just the context shift. And so for a long time

652
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 4: I didn't understand what some of those folks were going through,

653
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 4: but I have a lot of deep empathy for what

654
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 4: they went through because I can only imagine. And so

655
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 4: getting back to kind of this idea we're talking about

656
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 4: about drones, So yeah, you're right. You know, you can

657
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 4: go on YouTube down and see a lot of these

658
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 4: FPV drones, and I think in some ways it's desensitizing,

659
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: But put yourself in the shoes of the person who

660
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 4: had to make that call to That's that's where I

661
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 4: hope the listeners and the people that are going to

662
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 4: watch those videos are actually thinking through that part of it,

663
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: because again might thesis is humans don't necessarily ever want

664
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 4: to do something like that, So whenever they have to

665
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 4: take an action like that, it's just it chips away humanity.

666
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: You know, want one tip at a time, So it's tough.

667
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: Well in some of these So you know, back in

668
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: the early two thousands, there was a photo that leaked

669
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: out of like the EOD team and they had an

670
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: Xbox controller in one of the young EOD operator's hands

671
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: controlling the robot, and it shows that this Xbox controller

672
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: and all of its configurations are just so muscle memory

673
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: for that age range of that individual. So now what

674
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: do they do? They just said, oh, why don't we

675
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: make the controllers like an Xbox. So now you've got

676
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: this dude and he's just like hunkered down with all

677
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: this gear on, and he's just like, all right, I'm

678
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: just going to control the robot like I know how

679
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: to control the robot. Roight, you know. So now you

680
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: flash forward to today. This was about twenty years ago

681
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: that photo came out. Today, you've got kids who have

682
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: been flying drones as a gift from Christmas time, yep.

683
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: And they're already like integrated with it and they're playing like,

684
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: you know, video games where these things are used and

685
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: implemented in missions, just like what you're talking about. Like

686
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: America's Army made a video game called The Army of

687
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: Two and it was a recruiting tool and you would

688
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: log in with your information. They would just capture your information.

689
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: I can only imagine if there was like a drone

690
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: FPV game and you're just pulling the last Starfighter out

691
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: of it? You it is you, You are the last

692
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: star Fighter. Yeah, Tay, what.

693
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: Rad You mentioned the book club that you have, and

694
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 4: I'm glad you have that. I've actually read a couple

695
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: of books. Now this author isn't you know, a former

696
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: special operator, but I would encourage your viewers to actually

697
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 4: go and read a book called Wired for War. It's

698
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 4: by a gentleman named Peter Singer and.

699
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: He wrote it.

700
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: This book is probably fifteen years old, but it actually

701
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: goes through this concept of hey, what does the world

702
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: look like when you're not risking human.

703
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: Lives to go to war?

704
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 4: And there's some interesting discussions there because on one guess what,

705
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 4: you're not risking human beings. So that's great, you know,

706
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: we have fewer losses. But on the other side is

707
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: if there are no human costs to war, do we

708
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: see it more often or do we see it less often?

709
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 4: So anyway, it's at a great book and I encourage

710
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 4: the folks to go take a look at it.

711
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: They haven't you make me take my glasses off with

712
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: that comment, because what I'm thinking about is the human

713
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: element in war? Okay, And let's not get lost on

714
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: the fact that somebody could take a moment and realize

715
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: maybe they shouldn't do what they were going to do, right,

716
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: And something autonomous and robotic will not have that same

717
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: probably stopping point of like maybe their mother.

718
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 4: Or maybe right. It could be the opposite. It really could,

719
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 4: because we acknowledge human beings make mistakes and war.

720
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I know what I've seen it, and so some.

721
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: Of this i'd come at looking at kind of my

722
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: experience as being a pilot.

723
00:33:59,680 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: Right.

724
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: So in the F sixteen when I first started flying it,

725
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 4: our joke was everything was steam driven, right. You had

726
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 4: all these gauges, and I realized that I, as the pilot,

727
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 4: I was the integration engine for all these sensors. So

728
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: I had, you know, a radar thing that I could

729
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 4: look at, a radar warning receiver, had all these other

730
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 4: gauges and data links and whatnot, and all those data

731
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: came into my little brain, which I went to Alabama

732
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 4: Public School, so I can't process that much time, right,

733
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 4: So I was the limitation for the decision making power

734
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: in that airplane. But over time we started to add

735
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: more and more i'll call them layers of automation, and

736
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 4: then I had an opportunity to do some pilot vehicle

737
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 4: interface work in the F thirty five, which had this

738
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 4: one single integrated screen and like it was a fused

739
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 4: picture of what was going on in the world. And

740
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 4: I can't share one of the specific stories. But someone's like, okay,

741
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 4: you can do this now. I'm like, oh, hold on

742
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 4: a matte. You're telling me to trust this computer, when

743
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 4: before I do that, I would do these eleven things,

744
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 4: verify the rules of engagement were met, and then I

745
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: would make the decision. And I'm like, because if that's

746
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: what I do, see it says pilot right here. And

747
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: so they're like, okay, well you can do those things

748
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: if you want, but do you think you could do

749
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 4: them faster and more accurately than the computer? And my

750
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 4: initial answer was, of course I can. But what I

751
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 4: learned over time is these things that I was spending

752
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 4: my limited gray matter processing were really just wrote calculations

753
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 4: and adding this and that, and believe or not, the

754
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 4: computer was way faster doing that than I was. And

755
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 4: now it took time to develop trust. And this is

756
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: the key point. I think we have to get to.

757
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: It's trust.

758
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 4: But once I developed that trust, what I learned is

759
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 4: that now all those things I was trying to do

760
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 4: with the limited gray matter that got freed up, and

761
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 4: now I could use that limited grade matter to accomplish

762
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 4: the higher order things and the things that maybe only

763
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 4: a human.

764
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: Can bring to a battle.

765
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: And that's applying moral precepts to it and moral concepts

766
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: and going, okay, here's the mission. Is that the right

767
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 4: thing to do?

768
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: You know?

769
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 4: Can I maximize or reduce risk by doing these other things?

770
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: So I got to focus on those things instead of

771
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 4: what's the airspeed, what's the angle? How many milli radients

772
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: do you dial in? And all those other things that

773
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: you used to have to do. So in a lot

774
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: of ways, I think that automation in certain areas autonomy

775
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 4: are will actually decrease the amount of errors that happen

776
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 4: over time. And now I will I get it. I

777
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: acknowledge that, you know, we just based on understanding of

778
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 4: computer vision models. There are errors, there could be biases

779
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 4: in the training data, but we are learning how to

780
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 4: solve many of those things. And if you look at

781
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: the air rate of that that CD model compared to

782
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 4: the air rate of human being that is, you know,

783
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 4: pissed off, tired, everything else that happens when you're in combat.

784
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: Turns out the human typically makes more errors. So from

785
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 4: that aspect, you've got it. But now what I do

786
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 4: think I get back to this idea of trust. So

787
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 4: the only way this works is when the operator trust

788
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: the system. And by the way, I saw several times

789
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 4: in the airplane where we would institute new feature X,

790
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 4: and you know, the first two times you try to

791
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 4: use it, it didn't work. Well, we never used it again,

792
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 4: we turned it off. We're like, don't trust it, so

793
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 4: it never got used. And then but once you did

794
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 4: start trusting it, you know, it became a very valuable tool.

795
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 4: Now you have to worry about relying on something so

796
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 4: much so that if it goes away, you know, people

797
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: can still do the mission quote unquote manually. But the

798
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 4: other part of this, and this is where I was lucky.

799
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 4: I was able to work with some organizations on some

800
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 4: AI ethics principles and the idea. And DD has captured this,

801
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 4: by the way in there three thousand.

802
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 3: Point nine and some other documents where it's.

803
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 4: Like, all right, how must humans interact with some of

804
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 4: these algorithms? And the most important thing, and DUTY has

805
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: captured this is that at some point in this decision chain,

806
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 4: I will call it. A human being must be accountable

807
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 4: for the outcome or the output of that drum of

808
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 4: that ag or you know, whatever happened. And if you

809
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: can do that, that is you're narrowing in on about

810
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 4: the best system that you can't create.

811
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: I see, well you seem to make sense. Okay, well, you.

812
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 4: Know what, have another drink and I'll make even more sense.

813
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: I'm following you so far. And that's when a kid

814
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: who went to Utah Public schools here cheers, cheers, teers

815
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: to you as well. Yes, no, I mean, wow, what

816
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: a what a load on your plate. Let's think outer

817
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: space for a second. Yeah, drones and outer space? Okay,

818
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: what about drones that want to go and harvest asteroid

819
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: belts to bring back the minerals that they can and

820
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: upon re entry the quote I'm just I remember I

821
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: was went in a high tech company, and I remember

822
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: a few other high tech companies got together to give

823
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: a billion dollars towards a program to send all these

824
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: autonomous drones out of our atmosphere to harvest asteroids that

825
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: have told the platinum and titanium on them and bring

826
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 2: it back and they're thinking if they send five hundred

827
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: drones to go do this mission and they get three

828
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: hundred back, one drone with any of that stuff is

829
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: worth all of the drones. Is that something that's in

830
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: the Skydio world. Are you guys looking to harvest asteroids?

831
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 4: Skydio is not in the android harvesting business at present.

832
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 4: We're staying within the atmosphere and for the most part, saying.

833
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 3: With small quad copters okay for the time being.

834
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: But just from a conceptual standpoint, and by the way,

835
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 4: rad I mentioned, I have an injury background. That background

836
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 4: is an astronautical engineering, so this is something I've actually

837
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 4: thought about before. It's conceptually possible. I don't know if

838
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 4: it's economically viable in the short run, because I just

839
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 4: think of the energy that it takes to get out

840
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: of the atmosphere to get to an asteroid, to slow down,

841
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 4: to stop on an asteroid, to dig and collect my stuff,

842
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 4: and then blast back off the asteroid. You know, fortunately

843
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 4: you got the atmosphere and the Earth that would slow

844
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 4: you back down to a certain point. But that's that's

845
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 4: a lot of ifs and a lot of energy expenditure,

846
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 4: And like I said, from a centraal standpoint.

847
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: Yes, one hundredson doable. We have studio. We're not going

848
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 3: to do that. I won't make that clear.

849
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 4: But yeah, economically or economic viability, that part I don't know.

850
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 2: Well, then let me ask you another left field question

851
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: about drones. Okay within the extreme sports world, So how

852
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: about a drone that can follow me while I snowboard

853
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: or skateboard. You know, I thought I saw something that

854
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 2: trended on a social media page years and years ago.

855
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: I say that like five years ago, six years ago.

856
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: It's like, ye, buy in on this and you'll get

857
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: a first sample of it. I never saw it ever

858
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: come to the market. Is there anything that Skydio is

859
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 2: going to be looking at because I am a hardcore

860
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 2: extreme snowboarder myself.

861
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we've got to get you a Scudio drone,

862
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 4: right because that actually is how the company cut its teeth.

863
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 4: So our founder, Adam, he was an RC remote control

864
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: pilot and he was a world championhip doing that. But

865
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 4: he recognized how hard it was to actually fly a

866
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 4: remote control vehicle at the time. I mean, you had

867
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 4: to be a highly trained pilot to make this thing sing,

868
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: and to do it at the level he was doing it,

869
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 4: I mean, you had to be world renowned.

870
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: So and he was.

871
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: Getting his master's degree and MIT and he was like,

872
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: wait a minute, if I could abstract all the hard

873
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 4: piloting stuff out of this and make it so that

874
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 4: just about anyone could use an aerial vehicle, more people

875
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 4: would use aerial vehicles, and all these industries would pop

876
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: up and hey, I see a business opportunity. That's how

877
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 4: Skydio got it start. So one of the first things,

878
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 4: and you can go online on YouTube, there's kind of

879
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 4: a viral video that you probably have seen, and it's

880
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: a little glider with a small engine on it and

881
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 4: it's zipping through an underground garage with cars and it's

882
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 4: you know, avoiding all of the stanchions and the cars. Well,

883
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 4: that was Adam Breeze graduate thesis. That's what he did

884
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 4: is to create that obstle avointance using computer vision, and

885
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 4: then from there he got brought in by Google to

886
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 4: create Google Wing and then later on put out his

887
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 4: own shingle with Skydio. So step one was creating that

888
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 4: obstacle avoidance in the drone and then once that was done,

889
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 4: so that made it easy to fly hard to crash

890
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 4: all those things. Step two is to using those same

891
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 4: technologies around computer vision to be able to do something

892
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: simple like track a subject. So it turns out the

893
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 4: first drones we made ended up in you know, the

894
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: consumer space, but it was more of a prosumer model

895
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 4: because you're injecting a lot of software and a lot

896
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 4: of AI in them, so they were a little more

897
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 4: expensive then you know, the ninety nine dollars drone you

898
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 4: might be able to pick up on Amazon. So it

899
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: was people, you know in the extreme sports world. They

900
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 4: were like, Hey, I want to ski off this big

901
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 4: ski jump in Jackson Hole and I want someone to

902
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 4: film me. But having your friend jump off next to

903
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 4: you and try to stay just putting on work. But

904
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: it turns out a drone could lock onto you, follow

905
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 4: you switching down the hill, and then you through the jump.

906
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: So that's actually what really got Skydy too at start.

907
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: I love that because I love I mean, I ride

908
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 2: and my wife rides as well, and she's really good.

909
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: She's actually better than me. Excuse me, let me just

910
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: put it out there. She's faster than me. She's just

911
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: got just a better edge on her snowboard. But she

912
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: follows me everywhere we go, and so she's basically like

913
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 2: my chase.

914
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 4: Yea, right, and you invite me out to go to

915
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: Park City, I'll bring a dram with you, man, and

916
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 4: we'll film something on the slopes.

917
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: This one okay? Then perfect, you're invited, and we'll go

918
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 2: to Brighton Because I actually know that we could use Brighton.

919
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: I can make a phone call and say hey, can

920
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: we come up here and do some stuff. He'd be

921
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 2: like rad you know it. And I'd be like, let's

922
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: go in the trees. Do you ski your snowboard?

923
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

924
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 4: Well I'm a skier man, and I spent a lot

925
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 4: of time on my ass, so that's okay.

926
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: I snowboard, so I spend a lot of time on

927
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,959
Speaker 2: my ass. So we'll be there. We'll be just fine.

928
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: We'll be totally fighted. And no, no, that makes me excited.

929
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: I love talking about snow and snowboarding and getting ready

930
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: to go ride and having something that could follow me,

931
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: you know, that would be the way to go. We

932
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: tried to turn my indoor warehouse into like a drone

933
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: race environment in the very beginning, but we were so

934
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: close to hill that it was like you're within five

935
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: hundred feet of an air base, bro, And I was like, yeah,

936
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: I am, I know, I am. I want that, I

937
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: want them. I want to be that close. But I

938
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: couldn't even fly inside my own building. So there are

939
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: restrictions with drones and that should be put out there

940
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 2: that you know not you just can't fly it near

941
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: certain environments, you know, like an air force base.

942
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: Is like no, yeah, I would encourage everyone that's operating

943
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: a drone. There's some great training courses and we just

944
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 4: got to offer them and go to our websites, goide

945
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 4: dot com and there are some resources there, but you

946
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: can go. You can go to the Boy Scout website

947
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 4: and there's a drone training thing.

948
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 3: You'd think to.

949
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: Get what's called a trust certificate. Then once you have

950
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 4: your trust certificate, it will show you all right, here's

951
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 4: some great applications to use on your phone, so you

952
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 4: can hit the button and go can I fly the

953
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 4: drone here? And it will tell you yes, you can

954
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 4: fly it up to two hundred feet and you can

955
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 4: go out this far and that far. And some of

956
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 4: those things are just great things to have because you

957
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 4: are sharing the airspace with other things, and many of

958
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 4: those things.

959
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: Have people in them.

960
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 2: It's very real.

961
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 4: It's part of being you know, a safe operator.

962
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: It is, it's very real. It's respectful. You got to

963
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: respect the airspace because there's a lot going on. It's

964
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: a whole nother roadway. Right, you guys have maps and

965
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: grids and coordinates, and if not found it, you just

966
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: fly a drone right into somebody that doesn't need it.

967
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

968
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 4: So right, you were talking about the hey, follow me,

969
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 4: you know, down.

970
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: The stuff type thing.

971
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 4: So with some of those technologies that we incorporated into

972
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 4: our first drone, we're part of the short Range Reconnaissance

973
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 4: program for the US Army, and it was some of

974
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: those type of things that we modified for use for

975
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 4: the US Army. Like, for instance, there's a mode that

976
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 4: we call scout mode. So you're in your hum Vy

977
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: in your convoy, right, you throw a drone out and

978
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: this thing will zip without you touching six and throttles,

979
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: zip out a couple of kilometers in front, scan the area,

980
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: scan behind you, and you're not touching the sick of throttle,

981
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 4: but it's building a three hundred and sixty awareness bubble

982
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 4: around you. The convoy turns, the drone goes what I mean,

983
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 4: it is things like that that you can see we

984
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 4: took from that world and we're able to incorporate into

985
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: the combat world that to bring value and save lives.

986
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 2: I love the life saving. I love that I do.

987
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 2: And uh, I understand it might cost like a million

988
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: dollars to build some fancy drone, but you're priceless as

989
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: a human, as.

990
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 4: A person, and we're not millions of dollars.

991
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right. I'm just saying the worth and the

992
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: worth of life versus the cost. You know, you know,

993
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: we always want less life lost, period. We just need more,

994
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: We just need less tyrants, yeah.

995
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 4: For sure. But I mean to that end, we're doing

996
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: what we can.

997
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: Yes, uh, in Ukraine right now, so.

998
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 4: You know, I think again, a lot of people see

999
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 4: the FPV stuff. What a lot of people don't see

1000
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 4: again are what systems or the Ukrainians used to spot

1001
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: so they can shoot the one FI five or the

1002
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 4: FPV drones. And turns out they're using small ISR drones

1003
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 4: like ours. And we have thousands over there right now,

1004
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: and that's it's a meaningful thing. And actually I'm going

1005
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 4: back over again in a couple of weeks, and I've

1006
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,479
Speaker 4: been over there several times. Our team's been over many

1007
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 4: times here in the last year to get feedback and

1008
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 4: one of the biggest things happening there. And by the way,

1009
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 4: if anyone questions are these drones strategically valuable, the answer

1010
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: is yes. And if you want proof, just look at

1011
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 4: all the time, money and attention the Russians are putting

1012
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 4: it stopping.

1013
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: Them from using them.

1014
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 4: And you know the primary way right now is they're

1015
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,959
Speaker 4: using electrobabatic warfare EW, so they're trying to jam either

1016
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 4: the radio link between the controller and the drone or

1017
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 4: they're trying to jam the GPS or GNSS signal or

1018
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 4: sometimes both right and whenever they do that and drones

1019
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 4: can't fly, the Ukraineans were limited in how they can

1020
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 4: use their firepower. So we've been spending a lot of

1021
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 4: time and effort into increasing our EW resilience by building

1022
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 4: better software defined radios and uses some different techniques to

1023
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 4: be able to operate in GPS deny environments. And so

1024
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: that's having a meaningful impact right now, which is why

1025
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 4: we're spending so much time over there, because it's a

1026
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 4: problem worth solving to save lives, and it's not just

1027
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 4: in Ukraine, you know, I think that these things will

1028
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 4: be valuable for US forces. You know, anything that happs

1029
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: an indo pay com and so by the way, you know,

1030
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 4: you're operating even in a commercial context, so you're downtown

1031
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 4: New York, you're trying to fly in that urban canyon

1032
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 4: of buildings, we'll due to something called multipathing. Guess what,

1033
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 4: GPS signals get scrambled and now you can't operate. So

1034
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 4: you know, this is one of those rising tides lifts

1035
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: all boats. But it's something we've been spending a lot

1036
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 4: of time on.

1037
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: Well can they even you know, we have to build

1038
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: a dock in Gaza to help try to get aid

1039
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: into Gaza. We have to build a here, like you know,

1040
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 2: so much CB's involved, so much engineering involved, you know,

1041
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 2: gunshots coming back and forth from sporadic actors in the situation,

1042
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 2: would your drones be able to deliver a to a

1043
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: place and drop it, Yeah, so our drones.

1044
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 4: Are pretty small, so the payload carry capacity would not

1045
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 4: be that much. So you absolutely could drop small things.

1046
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 4: And that's like our newest drone is my fact, we

1047
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 4: called the X ten was specifically designed for some modularity.

1048
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 4: So it's got hard points, four of them, one on top,

1049
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 4: one bottom, and then one on each side to plug

1050
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: in USB C accessories. And so the idea is, you know,

1051
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 4: we've made a couple of accessories. We have a speaker

1052
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 4: and a microphone and a spotlight and things like that,

1053
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 4: you know, mostly things that maybe if you were in

1054
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 4: a law enforcement situation needed to negotiate with the hostage,

1055
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 4: you know, a hostage situation you could speak with and

1056
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 4: hear someone, or a spotlight maybe to track someone at night.

1057
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 4: And by the way, you know, all this obstacle avoidance

1058
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: and the AI stuff that I've talked about, we've now

1059
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 4: incorporated all that capability at night with something that we

1060
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 4: call night since. So it's a great package. But one

1061
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 4: of the things we did realize is, hey, you know,

1062
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: we think we're pretty smart.

1063
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 3: It's guideo, but we.

1064
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 4: Don't have a uh, we don't know everyone's job, right,

1065
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 4: so someone's going to need something that just isn't in

1066
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 4: our wheelhouse to make. And so the idea was, we

1067
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 4: can share you know, interface document with our here's how

1068
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 4: you interface with the software through these USB ports, here's

1069
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 4: how you get power. And you know, we already have

1070
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 4: some people working on you know, a dropper in order

1071
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 4: to drop a life jacket someone who's in the.

1072
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: Water, That's what I So, that's that's a very valuable asset,

1073
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: very valuable asset, you know, like that joke can get

1074
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: out there before a lifeguard, get out there while the

1075
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: life guard is still.

1076
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 4: Go bottle of water or medicine or a medkit, you know,

1077
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 4: and a such a rest.

1078
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: Seriously, Yeah, there's just so many, like you know, I mean,

1079
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: I you know, Amazon is dropping drone packages of livery services, right,

1080
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: It's like there is value and a need and a

1081
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: space for that, and I just see, you know, it's like,

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00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 2: how do we explain this? Okay? So like when Oppenheimer

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00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 2: created you know, when he could split the atom okay,

1084
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,479
Speaker 2: and then he's like, okay, what do I have here?

1085
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 2: I could either do you know, save humanity or kill

1086
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: humanity with this idea? Okay? And then you have AI,

1087
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 2: which is where we're at today. Again, it's in its infancy.

1088
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 2: It's either do we save humanity with AI or kill

1089
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: humanity with AI? Okay? So it's kind of like in

1090
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: that same kind of category, and and you know we

1091
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 2: just have to wield it wisely and uh the best

1092
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: stewards of what we have, right.

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Speaker 3: I'm with it. I agree with you.

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00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 4: I think that fundamentally all technologies are amoral and that

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00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 4: they have the morality. They receive the morality through how

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00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 4: they're used. So it's human agency that that gives them

1097
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 4: the morality. So I think the real answer to this

1098
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 4: rad is how do we educate people from day one

1099
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 4: through day Whenever you know how to correctly use tools, Now,

1100
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 4: will there be people that misuse them?

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00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's right.

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00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 4: That we will never stomp that down to zero. But

1103
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 4: what you can do is minimize the number of people

1104
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 4: who misuse things, uh, and then have an appropriate you know,

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00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 4: regimen of discipline for those who do so, and hopefully

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00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 4: make the punishment such that people aren't willing to do

1107
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 4: the crime if they can't do the time.

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00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 2: Yeah for real, No really, And with that, do we've

1109
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: been talking an hour? At can't?

1110
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 3: It's an hour?

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00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: It has It's been an hour. No, It's just like

1112
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: it's so there's just so much more to talk about

1113
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: with with your lane, you just know so much about it.

1114
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 2: You're such a subject matter expert. And I just want

1115
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: to let my guests know that are listening and watching

1116
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: that we really have a treat with having you on today,

1117
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 2: Mark and talking to us, and I mean, you guys

1118
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: are part of the largest drone company in the world,

1119
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: and it's just it's amazing to just know that you

1120
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 2: have your eyes on the world. To tell you, bro,

1121
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: it's a big job.

1122
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 4: We're trying to do our best and make good things happen.

1123
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Speaker 3: But I appreciate its time today.

1124
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 4: Right, No, it was a great conversation.

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Speaker 3: I had no idea. We talked for an hour.

1126
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 2: Let me plug you real quick. Let me just put

1127
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: you out there, let me let me pimp it a

1128
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 2: little bit. Where can if one of my listeners is

1129
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: interested or works in an agency and they're like, so,

1130
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Speaker 2: it's skyde O, s k y d i O dot com,

1131
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: right dot com.

1132
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty easy to find there, and folks can hit

1133
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 4: me up on LinkedIn. I'm you know, I'm relatively busy,

1134
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 4: but I try to answer as much as I can

1135
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 4: have any answer questions. But yeah, hit us up on

1136
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 4: the website. We have a lot of events going on.

1137
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 4: We are running around the country in the world doing

1138
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: you know, flying demos, all sorts of things. Uh, you know,

1139
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 4: get your hands on one of the new drones and

1140
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 4: once you see it, it's you can't unsee. You're like, wow,

1141
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 4: it is pretty amazing.

1142
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 2: Well, wax those skis up, Bud, because.

1143
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 3: We're gonna do it. I'm gonna call you on this rant.

1144
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 2: Hey, call me, call me every day. Go ahead and

1145
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: bring your buddy, bring Adam, bring him, bring him? Does

1146
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: he right? Yeah? The do so we know he's got

1147
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 2: a ski. So yeah, I mean come on now, and

1148
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 2: Kelly to bring Kelly to She's cool too, So back

1149
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: and forth. Well, listen, I'm gonna wind down the show

1150
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: by saying thanks so much to Mark Valentine for being

1151
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: on with Skydio dot com. Uh. His former career in

1152
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: the Air Force is majestic and awesome. Colonel, you're a

1153
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: boss and we appreciate you shooting the watch and living

1154
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 2: to tell the tales. Okay, so thank you for coming

1155
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: home to those that are your friends that are out there.

1156
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: Thanks for saying their name on here that didn't come back,

1157
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: and again on behalf of all of us here a

1158
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 2: soft rep softwap dot com. Brandon Webb my producer, Anton Guy,

1159
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 2: my managing editor, You my listener, you that buys the

1160
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: merch from our store, that reads our books on our

1161
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: book club. Thank you so much, for listening, and with that,

1162
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say peace.

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Speaker 1: Use them listening to self red Radio