1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Sabor production of iHeart Radio. I'm 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Annie Reese and I'm Lauren bog Obam, and today we 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: have an episode for you about Peaceco, Yes, which is 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: gonna be fun with pronunciation because we already had a 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: bit of a pronunciation emergency. I mean emergency is a 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: strong word, but we had to look up they're talking 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: about Yeah, there are no emergencies and infotainment podcasting, um 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: but but yes, just I was like, okay, here you go. 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: You're ready to talk about pisco and Annie was like, 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: you mean Peaceco. And I was like, let us check, 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: let us super double check that one. I've always I 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever heard this word out loud before, right, uh. 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: And I had heard it out loud, but as I 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: was kind of joking, it was a bit of a oh, 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, like seven or eight years ago, I 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: was in Peru, Um I did. I wasn't from a 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: you're with us at the time, and my memory is fuzzy, 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: both from the piece co and the time that has passed, 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: I will say, which brings us to our are are 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: always note on episodes like this and drink responsibly. Yes, yes, uh? 21 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: And I Okay, So I did go to Peru a 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I think I've told this story 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: before because I was, I could have sworn up and 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: down this is happening more often, Lauren that we had 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: already done a peace COO episode. We have not not. 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: I had to check as well. So yes, I think 27 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: we've talked about it before. And I think I told 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: this story before, but I will tell it again because 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: I was. I don't know, I'm a huge nerd. I'm 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: sure that's no surprising anybody. And I saw this. I 31 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: think it was in Lima, but at night have it 32 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: might not have been Um, it might have been Incusco. 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: But I saw this place and it was called translated 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: the Museum of Peace Go Okay. I was like, oh, museum, yeah. 35 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: And I walked in and I went up to the 36 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: front and it was a very like clean white space. 37 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: It had a whole um illustration of how peaceco is 38 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: made and like the history of peaceco on the walls. 39 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: And I went up um to what appeared to be 40 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: a bar, and I was like, I would like one 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: ticket to the museum please, And the guy gave me 42 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: such like a dead band stare, and he was like, 43 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: this isn't a museum, it's a bar. That's just the 44 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: name of the bar. Would you like some piece go? 45 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: I was like, well, yes, please, in that case, I 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: will take one drink of peace go. Thank you. It 47 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: was so embarrassing, and I still have a It's like 48 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: a postcard, but it has the process of how to 49 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: make peace go and he did. He was very informative 50 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: and he told me how to make it. But that 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: was sort of my first I was like, oh, I 52 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: want to learn about this. I've never heard about it before. Uh, 53 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: it was not a museum. And I tried to buy 54 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: the ticket in my very broken Spanish and he I'm 55 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: sure he probably tells the story as well. I am 56 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: positive that is not the only time that that mistake 57 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: has occurred, because that's a I mean, and I've seen 58 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: that in other bars that are named things that are 59 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: kind of quirky, where they're like, we don't sell hardware here, 60 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: ma'am endorser. It's that's just the it's would you like 61 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: a drink? I that's what there's Yeah, that's what we 62 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: got man, it's a I mean, it worked on me. 63 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: It was effective. I came in. I was like oh, 64 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna learn so much. Was there any particular reason 65 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: this was on your mind? No, no, zero, none, none 66 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: at all. I think that the I was looking through 67 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: our ideas sheet and I think the pisco I'm going 68 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: to do this all episode. I was looking through our 69 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: ideas sheet and the Piasco sour was on there, as 70 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: it has been for the entire time we've been doing 71 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: this show, and so I've vaguely had it in my 72 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: head to to do a piececo episode for this entire time. 73 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: But now now, now is the time. Now, now is 74 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: the time. Have you ever had any I am trying 75 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: to I've been trying to figure that out this this 76 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: entire time. I've been reading about this for this outline. Um, 77 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Um So this is a super 78 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: rare I have absolutely, as far as I can tell, 79 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: no experience with this product. And and you the tables 80 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: are turned any you have all of this experience. The 81 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: tables are turned. Now I get to see what it's 82 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: like to live on the other side. One of the 83 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: reasons I thought we'd already done this episode is over 84 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: the stuff I've never told you. The other podcast that 85 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: I am on. We have a happy hour segment every 86 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: week once a week. Um. And as part of that, 87 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: we highlight women in the beverage industry doesn't have to 88 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: be alcohol. Yeah, and we did one on women who 89 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: were distilling Peace Go. So if you're interested in that, 90 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: you can go check it out. Um. It's very good, 91 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: very good because we try it during the episode, which 92 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: is always really but it was fun. Oh yeah, yeah, 93 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: it's definitely. I'm super interested in it now. Um. And uh, 94 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm also relatively unfamiliar with with brandy as a category, 95 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: and so yeah, I'm like, I'm like, oh man, am 96 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: I gonna go try to find a bottle of peace Go? 97 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: Like once we finished this recording, probably yeah, yeah, I 98 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: support it. Supported. The first Saturday in February is international 99 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: Peace Go Saturday in Peru, and Peace Go Day in 100 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: per is the fourth Sunday in July. And I suspect 101 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Lauren and I would love for listeners right in there 102 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: are more days of peace coop around the world somehow tangentially, 103 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: it's just a feeling in my gut. Yes, I would. 104 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: I would tentatively agree with you. Okay, I We'll take that. Um. 105 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: You can see our wine episodes for more info. Related 106 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: info yeah about grapes for sure. UM. Also kind of 107 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: generally are our liquor episodes. I think we get a 108 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: little bit into the history of distillation in the Scotch 109 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: episode specifically, UM, and then also the Whiskey Sour cocktail 110 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: our episode, isn't it Isn't that great to say? Yeah, yeah, 111 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: that that one goes into the history of sours um, 112 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: which which is going to be we're gonna glance through. 113 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, for a deeper history, go see that episode. Yes, yes, yes, 114 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: But I guess this wrings us a question. I think 115 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 1: it does because we've been we've been running rough shod 116 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: over a number of of topic categories without really explaining 117 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: what the heck we're talking about as um. Yes, okay, 118 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: let's fix that. UM. Piece go what is it? Well? 119 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: Piece go is a type of liquor distilled from wine 120 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: made from grapes, a type of brandy. Although it is 121 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: often clear in color, it's not usually considered like a 122 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: neutral spirit the way vodka might be, because piece go 123 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: is often quite flavorful, but it can range from like 124 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: fruity to floral to herbal, too funky to earth the 125 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: I feel like brandy has a little bit of a 126 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: reputation like a like a bad reputation for being kind 127 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: of cloying or sweet or single note um in a 128 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: lot of the United States. And that's just super unfair 129 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: to to the sheer breadth that's possible within the style. 130 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, but peace can be a lot of things. Um, 131 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: it's it's generally warming and grape ish. Uh. And like 132 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: I said, I don't have a lot of experience with 133 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: then with this one, so like y'all, y'all tell me, Um, 134 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: I have the notion that it's like, um that it's 135 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: like a dream of wine. Ah, it's it's it's like 136 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: stranger and more ethereal or ephemeral. Yeah, yeah, I would agree. 137 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: I would agree. I feel like, as you said, it 138 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: can taste a lot of ways, and I had experiences 139 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: with sweeter ones. I had some way more in your 140 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: face ones. Um, but it was one of the things. 141 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: And I think this is also just because of like 142 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: my palette and I hadn't had it until I was, 143 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, in college or after college. Um, that every 144 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: sip was kind of like so rising, Like yeah, like 145 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: it's not that it was different, it's just like it 146 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: was hard to for me to anticipate. It was like 147 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: every time, just just like just like there's a lot 148 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: going on and like in a way that you hadn't 149 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: specifically had before, so you were just like, oh yeah, yeah, cool, Okay, 150 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: I need to find something, okay, alright, so h There 151 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: are two main varieties of piececo Peruvian and Chilean. Both 152 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: are made from grapes that grow in fairly arid regions 153 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: and thus tend to be um sweet and strong and flavor. 154 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: The grapes um. They're fermented into wine, and then that 155 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: wine is distilled into piececo um. They may be made 156 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: from blends of grapes, or from single grapes, from fully 157 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: fermented wines, or from wines that are stopped part way 158 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: through fermentation. The Peruvian types um have more restrictions on 159 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: their creation because they have a designation of origin, which 160 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: is one of those sets of rules meant to guarantee 161 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: the quality of a product by restricting the production to 162 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: specific and often traditional methods. Um proving styles are made 163 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: from any of eight types of grapes. They are distilled once, 164 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: and they are aged briefly in um ceramic metal or glass, 165 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: and then bottled at at barrel proof, which is thirty 166 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: eight percent to alcohol by volume. The result can range 167 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: from clean to funky too earthy to to bright with 168 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: fruit um and a little bit fiery. The Chilean types 169 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: have fewer restrictions placed on their creation. Um. They are 170 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: made from any of thirteen types of grapes, though I've 171 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: seen that number range. I'm not totally sure. If anyone 172 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: does know, please write in. They can be aged in 173 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: wood barrels and often are to develop the flavor. That 174 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: can also give them a little bit of a amber color. 175 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: They can be distilled multiple times if if you want 176 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: to do that, um, and they can be bottled at 177 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: a lower proof. The result is often fruity and floral 178 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: and smoother. Yeah yeah um. Piececo is often served neat 179 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: or on the rocks for sipping or yes mixed into cocktails. 180 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: It plays well with a lot of different fruit and 181 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: herb flavors. I read that it's really great with just tonic, 182 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: like a piececo and tonic um, which is sometimes called 183 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: a piston and tonic. I love it um, but perhaps 184 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: most commonly um. It is made into a Piececo sour, 185 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: which involves lime, juice and sugar, and may additionally involve 186 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: an egg white and bitters. We've talked about this before 187 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: on the show. But if you're skittish about having a 188 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: raw egg white mixed into your drink, which is so lovely, um. 189 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: It adds this this foam and this creaminess. That's that's 190 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: really just esthetically and palette pleasing. Um. But if you're 191 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: skittish about it because of like almonella. UM. Okay. First 192 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: of all, generally speaking, you do not need to worry 193 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: about salmonella in raw eggs um. The rate of salmonella 194 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: in the United States anyway and and all other developed 195 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: countries is super low, like ludicrously low. Um. You don't 196 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: need to worry about it. If you're still worried about it, 197 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: there has been actual research that has been done specifically 198 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: with piececo sours um, showing that if you add if 199 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: you like, if you like, take an egg white and 200 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: you specifically add salmonella to it, like there's definitely salmonella 201 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: in there, um, and then use that egg white to 202 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: make a piececo sour that salmonella is undetectable after six 203 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: minutes and will have been completely inactivated after nine minutes. 204 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: So wow. So if you're still if you're yeah, but 205 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: science if you're still concerned, wait at least six minutes, 206 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: definitely nine to be super safe, and then you're fine. 207 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Oh so funny? I mean that more 208 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: power do you? You do you? But if you were 209 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: at a bar and the bargainers like everything okay, like 210 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: I'm just waiting nine minutes, yeah, like like I've started 211 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: a timer. Don't worry. This is part of the process. 212 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: Uh well, I guess related. What about the nutrition, drake responsibly, Yes, Uh, 213 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: we do have some numbers for you. We do by 214 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: some smiths. PRU has around six hundred and fifty operating 215 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: Peacecoat distilleries UM, and about one hundred and fifty of 216 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: those might be operating illegally. UM. There is a Peruvian 217 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: wine and peace festival every March during the yearly grape harvest. 218 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: It's called La Fiesta da Love and Amia. It's been 219 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: running since nineteen eight and there is all of the 220 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: stuff that you would expect from a festival, plus lots 221 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: of distillery and winery tours, sand boarding UM and yes, 222 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: a beauty pageant UM and the contestants, among other things, 223 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: dance in a in a vat of grapes to to 224 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: crush them. As part of the contest, of course you 225 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: do um. As of nineteen, the global market for peacecull 226 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: was worth some six hundred and seventy million dollars and growing. Yes, 227 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: and in the past few decades the US peaceco market 228 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: has experienced a lot of growth. The US is the 229 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: second largest importer of peaceco after Chile. American import of 230 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: piececo double between, so that's not that long to double uh, 231 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: And this is a bit of a reverse. Around two thousand, 232 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: Chile exported around twenty times more than Prue, but now 233 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: Prue exports two to three times more than Chile. Um. 234 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: Still Chile produces around three times as much as Peru 235 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: annually as thirty million liters to nine point five million leaders. 236 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: And I actually find all of these numbers very very 237 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: interesting because it seems like then a lot of it 238 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: staying where it's yeah, yeah, yeah, that that balance is 239 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: always fascinating, Yes, it is. Yeah. And I think it's 240 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: become clear that we've got kind of a tale of 241 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: two piece goes going on. H Yes, we do. And 242 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: we are going to get into the history of that 243 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: tale as soon as we get back from a quick 244 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: break for a word from our sponsors and we're back. 245 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsoring, Yes, thank you. So again, this is 246 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: not the great episode. I feel like, similar to potatoes, 247 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: we're circling grapes a lot. Yeah, it's it's just it's 248 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: a very broad topic. I mean, I as as we 249 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: get into in every individual wine episode, like the history 250 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: of every specific grape is so deep, um and so 251 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: um well recorded. Mm hmmm uh so yes, yeah, like 252 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: down to the specific vine in some cases actual vines 253 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: that have been held hostage. So yeah, so note about that. Also, 254 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: as we've been hinting at another history section, another fierce, 255 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: fierce debate about origins, mainly here between Peru and Chile 256 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: and um, a lot of sources I found definitely were 257 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: a bit biased in their arguments, So keep that in mind. 258 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes like overtly so, and sometimes it felt like they 259 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: maybe didn't realize it. But yeah, just to keep that 260 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: in mind. And also sensibly a food show, this is 261 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: one of the episodes where I feel like it just 262 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: showcases so much history that we could go into if 263 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: we were a history show. Um, this is the history 264 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: section of a food show. But like, it's interesting, it's 265 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: got it's got a lot going on about why there 266 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: is this, this debate and all of this claim around 267 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: who invented peace go and what even actually is absolutely 268 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: yeah so yeah, yeah, all right, Well I'm gonna try 269 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: to break it down as much as I can. But 270 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: as always, listeners, do you have personal experience or knowledge 271 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: or resources, please let us know, please yes, because much 272 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: of the debate here revolves around national pride and I 273 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: fraught competitive, complicated history between these two countries. UM. A 274 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: big piece of this feud has to do with the 275 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: War of the Pacific from eighty three, when Peru and 276 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: Bolivia fought against Chile in Chile ultimately one and obviously 277 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: this took a toll on the relationship between Chile and 278 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: Peru that didn't go away when the war ended, um, 279 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: and things got worse later on when some Peruvian territory 280 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 1: became a part of Chile. And that is a big 281 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it more, but that's a 282 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: big part of this argument. Is like when was Chile Chile? 283 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: When was preu Beru? All I kind of stuff. Um Alright, 284 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: So as for the proving claim to Peaceco, most of 285 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: the resources say Peaceco got started when the Spanish introduced 286 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: the country to their wine making techniques. They introduced European 287 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: grapes in the fift hundreds to PRU. Records from this 288 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: time described large vineyards in the area. Um Spanish missionaries 289 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: founded the port of Peasco as the city of Santa 290 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: Maria Magdalena de Pisco. So they kept the Quechua named Piaceco, 291 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: meaning bird, and then added the name of a saint Um. 292 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: Most sources suggest that this is probably where the name 293 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: peace Coo comes from, because this is where peace Go 294 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: the beverage was coming from. So there you go. Yeah, 295 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: Um and the Quechua are a group of people and 296 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: in the languages that they speak indigenous to Yes, what 297 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: is now peru mm hmm um and then groovy and 298 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: wyemakers working with grapes brought over from Spain. I found 299 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: this in like a couple of places, but again I 300 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: would love if anybody has more information about this. They 301 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: learned that the King of Spain had banned their wines 302 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: due to the fact that they were competing a little 303 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: too well with European with European varieties and wines, so 304 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: Peruvian vitnors they started leaning into distillation. Yeah, and and 305 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: distillation was really coming into its own Around this time 306 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: alcohol was beginning to be treated not just as a 307 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: medicine but as like a fun thing to drink. Um 308 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: In the late fifteen hundreds and early sixteen hundreds, yes, 309 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: and the first known written reference to Piececo does come 310 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: out of Peru from the fifteen seventies, and by the 311 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: early sixteen hundreds there are written mentions of a type 312 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: of brandy frequently called aguardiente or brandy I don't know. 313 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: So this gets kind of muddled because many of them 314 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: were Peaceco like or Peaceco adjacent, but they could have 315 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: also been not peacec how we would describe peace cost today. Yeah, 316 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: Gordiente is a larger category of right of brandies from 317 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: this region, so right exactly, so that that kind of 318 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: gets mixed up a bit. Um. There are also descriptions 319 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: of how it was made, which clarifies things and is 320 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: a way historians are more like, Okay, this is probably 321 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: piece go Um. The oldest working distillery in Peru, peace 322 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: Co Distillery, dates back to sixteen eighty four. In sixteen 323 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: eighty seven, Peruce suffered a devastating earthquake that decimates did 324 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: a huge amount of their wine grapes and wine cellars, 325 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: and it wasn't until the eighteenth century that the wine 326 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: industry there started to recover. Okay so um. Peruvians often 327 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: argue that peace Go only started to pop up in Chile. 328 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: Are in the Chilean record anyway after the war and 329 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: after Peaceco was being made in Peru for decades decades before. 330 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: So a lot of Chile's argument comes from the fact 331 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: that when records of Peaceco first started popping up, there 332 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: was no Peru technically in that Peru and Chile where 333 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: one country. Therefore they both have acclaimed to it. And 334 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: then Peruvians argue back that they were two cultures, separate 335 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: kingdoms with unique histories. Um. And as mentioned, these two 336 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: piececos aren't very different products in many ways, which neither 337 00:21:54,320 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: country disputes that. UM. So yeah, yeah it is. It 338 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: is not for us to say one way or another. 339 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: We are simply we are simply reporting that these are 340 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: the arguments. These are the arguments. Um. This one kind 341 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: of cracked me up. In n six, Chile's former president 342 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: Gabriel Gonzalez changed the name of a village that Chilean's 343 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: believe where they believe in ancient Chilean civilization inmended their 344 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: version of Piececo to Piececo elki um so changed the 345 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: name of this village to that, and this did not 346 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: go over well with many Peruvians. Many of them thought 347 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: it was a blatant attempt to secure a trademark. I'm 348 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: telling you go look up some articles about this listeners, 349 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: because a lot of it is playful and like playfully fighting. 350 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: Some of it is very much not um. But yeah, 351 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: that that kind of was like wow, really, um, Chile 352 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: band the sale Piececo from Peru in one and Peru 353 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: did the same for Chilean Peaceco about three decades later. 354 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And then when it comes to 355 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: the Peasco sour, most attribute that drink to Peru Um. 356 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: The Peruvian tails suggest that an American expat and Peru 357 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: named Victor von Han or Vaughan. Perhaps Morris made a 358 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: riff on the whiskey sour that he called the Piasco 359 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: sour at his bar in Lima, which opened in nineteen sixteen, 360 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: and then from their employees moved to other establishments and 361 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: started refining and spreading this drink. It called for Peruvian 362 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: piasco lime juice, simple syrup, egg, white ice and anger 363 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: stor and anger Stora Bitters. However, a recent discovery of 364 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: a recipe from nineteen o three that is very similar 365 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: to it has thrown this whole thing into question, this 366 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: whole story. We talked about that in Every Cocktail Hour. Say, meanwhile, 367 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: Chili argues that they invented it, but their version is different. 368 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: It calls for Chilian peaceco prohaps obviously pika lime and 369 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: without the bidders and egg whites. One expert argues a 370 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: Chilean recipe for it for this drink pops up in 371 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: eighteen two. Yeah, but the first printed recipe is usually 372 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: put in the nineteen forties somewhere. So again, yeah, yeah, 373 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: this is especially with it with a drink as a 374 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: straightforward as a sour. This this is kind of what 375 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: you would do with a liquor around the mid to 376 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: late eight hundreds, certainly into the nineteen hundreds. Um, that's 377 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: I you know, I'm excited for people if they if 378 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: they have historical sources and they wanna wanna pin it 379 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: to a certain spot and an end point in time. 380 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about all of that history. But but 381 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: also I'm like, oh, people probably did that. That's probably 382 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: the thing that people did yeah. Indeed. And speaking of 383 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: the piece goes sour, maybe related to a cocktail that 384 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: took San Francisco by storm in the nineteenth century, the 385 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: Peaceco Punch. I think I've had Peaceco Punch. Um this drink. Gosh. 386 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: I really think we could come back and do a 387 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: whole episode on this drink because it was interesting that 388 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: the story behind it, but it really symbolized the wealth 389 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: that was generated for some people and for that city 390 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: from the gold rush that was happening at that time. Yeah. Yeah, 391 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: this is a gold rush drink exactly exactly. And the 392 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: quote original Piececo Punch would set you back twenty five 393 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: dollars in today's money. The inflation that was going on 394 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: surrounding the gold rush is what made people rich. Um. 395 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: At the time, it was not finding gold. No one 396 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: really got rich finding gold. Uh. They got rich selling 397 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: shovels to people who were trying to find gold. Um. 398 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: That's not just an apocryphal saying, um in a gold 399 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: rush cell shovels. That is literally how the economics of 400 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: that time worked. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And and San Francisco, 401 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, as a port city, and it was one 402 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: that was flourishing in many ways because of this. Um 403 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: Peruvians and their piece cos had long been traded in 404 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: that city, and that was something that only increased during 405 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: this gold rush UM as they traveled to San Francisco 406 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: to put their mining skills to use. A lot of 407 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: ships bringing Peaceco also transported pineapples, which people were over 408 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: the moon over and we've talked about that multiple times. Um. 409 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: And then you add in some lime and some syrup 410 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: and perhaps a mysterious other ingredients more on that in 411 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 1: a second, and you have a luxurious Peaceco punch. Uh. 412 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: It was strong. Customers were only allowed to order to 413 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: as the story goes, uh And yeah. So one San 414 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: Francisco bar in particular frequently gets the credit for the 415 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: invention of the Peaceco punch. And it's the Bank Exchange 416 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: and Billiard Saloon, which, going back to your point of 417 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: like kind of these name of bars where you could 418 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: misinterpret what's going on, I'd be like a Frank Exchange. Um. So, 419 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: artists of all types frequented this bar, some lived above it. 420 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: One popular legend is that Mark Twain got the inspiration 421 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: for Tom Sawyer from a local man while drinking Pascoe 422 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: punches there. Um. Rudyard Kipling wrote of it, no man 423 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: but one knows what is in it. I have a 424 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: theory it is compounded of the shavings of cherubs, wings, 425 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: the glory of a tropical dawn, the red clouds of sunset, 426 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: and fragments of lost epics by dead masters. I mean, wow, 427 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: that is delightful. I mean Kipling what I dude, But 428 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: but that is just a lovely, lovely description of a thing. 429 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: It is what a drink? What a drink? Uh? And yes, 430 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: this one. This one person who knows what's in it 431 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: is supposedly the bartender who claims to have invented it, 432 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: Duncan Nickel. His name is filled in multiple ways a 433 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: couple of plays, but generally yeah, that Um who secured 434 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: the patent for the recipe in eight seven. But he 435 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: never divulged the mysterious ingredient. That's we'll never know. It's 436 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: probably nothing. That's a plot point. Guo bandit anyway. Um. 437 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: Prohibition was not great for peaceco in the United States 438 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties and thirties, and the bank Exchange 439 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: in Billiard Saloon closed UM and civil strife and prue 440 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: negatively impacted the Peruvian peaceco industry for decades. It wasn't 441 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 1: until the two thousand's that Peaceco started to regain a 442 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: footholes in the US. Yes. Um, but as we mentioned 443 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: in the number section, it's really it's really yeah. Peaceco 444 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: Porton's master distiller, Johnny Schuler or Schyler perhaps, was awarded 445 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: the Peruvian Congressional Medal of Honor in two thousand seven 446 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: for everything he did to popularize peace Go. And he 447 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: he boasts the world's largest peace Go collection, with an 448 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: estimated three thousand bottles. Mm hmmm. Yeah. In the European 449 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: Commission granted Peru's request for a geographical origin when it 450 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: comes to piece Go. But I found this interesting. According 451 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: to one source, I read, around seventy one countries recognized 452 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: Peru as the official home of peace Go, while only 453 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: a handful recognized Chile and a few recognize both. And 454 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: this is very wild, very wild. You can look at 455 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: the list like there's a whole breakdown of it. I again, 456 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: it is not for us. It is not for us 457 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: to say that way or another. It is not. It 458 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: is not. But yes, the debate rages on. Um. I'm 459 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: sure we'll have we'll revisit this one in the future, 460 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: I bet with an update. Oh yeah, hope. So well 461 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: yeah maybe I know maybe by then you will have 462 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: tried it. Hopefully. I'm serious, Like tonight, I'm like, get 463 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: to me the peace cost yes, yes, um, well, listeners, 464 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: as always, if you have any thoughts on this, any 465 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: information that we miss, clarifications and favorite Peaceco brands for 466 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: Lauren and I to try, yeah, yeah, definitely let us know, yes, 467 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: please let us know. But in the meantime, I think 468 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: that's what we have to say about Peaceco for now. 469 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: And we do have some listener mail already prepared for you, 470 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: and we're going to get into that, but first we're 471 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: going to get into one more quick break for a 472 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: word from our sponsors. And we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, 473 00:30:51,920 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: thank you, And we're back with full of flavor. That's 474 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: what peace boys. I'm also trying to help you because 475 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: your your voice. I was going to do like a 476 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: really high pitch thing and I was like, wow, that's 477 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: not with Lauren. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, I'm I'm recovering 478 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: from from actually my first bout of COVID y'all, so 479 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: uh so, yeah, I've had really mild symptoms. I'm super 480 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: lucky um, but I thank you for not trying to 481 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: make me go be terrible with me. No, that would 482 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: be mean. I would never never thank you. You are 483 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: most welcome, Megan wrote. So, I just finished the g 484 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: episode where a letter mentioned sugar cream pie, and I 485 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: rushed to write to encourage an episode on it. But 486 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: then I had a faint memory of trying to explain 487 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: sugar cream pie and an email to some of my 488 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: favorite podcasters. Surely that was you two right wrong. It 489 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: was Holly and Tracy from Stuff you missed an history class. 490 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: They talked about Amish pie on an episode, which sounded 491 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: very similar to sugar cream pie to me, So I 492 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: wrote an email to them about it, and then I 493 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: forgot to send the email. Whoops. Anyway, sugar cream pie 494 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: is delicious. I'm from a town on the Ohio Indiana border, 495 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: so it's pretty popular where I grew up. There are 496 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: many debates about which recipe is the best, and the 497 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: restaurants in the area that make it carefully guard their 498 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: secret touches. One decided to publish their recipe and recipes 499 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: for other desserts when they went out of business in 500 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: the nineties in the newspaper and my mom still has 501 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: the clippings. Yeah, that's fascinating. It is. You know, we 502 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: love a good localized, regional food and I mean adding 503 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: some pie and I am sold right right and like 504 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: and like, okay, like I've heard of this. I don't 505 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: know exactly what it is or what it's made of. Um, 506 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever had it. But I'm from 507 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: Ohio originally, but I'm from the eat end of Ohio. 508 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm from like the Pennsylvania Ohio border, so so that 509 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: pie like there, So that is how localized this is. 510 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: I love it. Oh my gosh, I love it. And 511 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, now I want to know about omagh pie? 512 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: Um now, and also like what pies do I make? 513 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: That people wouldn't know what I'm talking about. I had 514 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: never had pecan pie before I moved to Atlanta. Wow. Yeah, wow, 515 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: Oh now we just need to do a whole episode 516 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: that's just like Regions of Pies. Where can you get 517 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: this pie? That sounds like a whole other podcast does 518 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: And I'm tempted to undertake it. I am tempted, but 519 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: this is definitely on our list. Yeah, because multiple people 520 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: have written in about it. I love it. Can't wait 521 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: to can't wait to learn more and recipe was included 522 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: in this, So that's exciting, very exciting. Kara or Carra wrote, 523 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: I have a trifecta for you. My dog has a 524 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: good name, a good costume, and it's a pun. So 525 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: here's Taco in his costume contest winning costume. He's a 526 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: beagle and cream cheese. Oh. I actually had fully planned 527 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: a different costume, but had supply issues and the pouring 528 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: rain at the last minute and throw this together. It 529 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: was a hit. Um. Also, Maynard is a baby cow. 530 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: He came in second in the contest. Um in pod 531 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: content related news, it's called Taylor Ham and it's a 532 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: staple from my childhood and let's be honest, adult visits 533 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: to my grandma's house on the Jersey Shore. The cruelest 534 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: thing is that I don't live in Jersey, so I 535 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 1: can't eat it every day. You'll never believe the shock 536 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: and happiness when I walked into a del eat in 537 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: Las Vegas and saw a tailor ham and egg sandwich 538 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: on the menu and then enclosed there are photographs of 539 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: of Taco and Maynard. Um Uh. Taco is indeed a 540 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: beagle and and This beagle has a little Philadelphia cream cheese, 541 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: um placard costume beagle and cream cheese. Oh my goodness, 542 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: what a good what a good dog. And then Maynard, 543 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: it's just like a little baby cow with a little 544 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: ears and the little horns. And I think this is 545 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: also a beagle, but it's hard to tell because it's 546 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: head on and and it's licking its own nose. Um, 547 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: because it's just it's very excited. Uh, and I this 548 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: is such Both of these are very very very good dogs. 549 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing them with us. Yes, we continue 550 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: to be delighted by all these pictures, all your pun names, 551 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: all your castive, so talented, all you those are just 552 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: so talented. Seriously, this is the best. Yeah, I'm so 553 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: glad we've we've asked of this and that you have 554 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: answered the call um. And also, oh my gosh, the 555 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: amount of it's Taylor Ham No, it's pork roll emails 556 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: are gotten. Listeners, You are in for a treat in 557 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: future episodes. Uh, it's we've adored every minute. Yeah, yeah, 558 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: we should keep it tally according to savor listeners. M Yeah, 559 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: it's funny. We've gotten memes. I think we've got some 560 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: statistics like serious business. It's serious business, um, the most serious. Yes, absolutely, 561 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: absolutely so if you want to be involved in that tally, 562 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: get to writing. Yeah, yes, And thanks to both of 563 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: these listeners for writing in. If you would like to 564 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: write to us, you can. Our email is hello at 565 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: savor pot dot com. We're also on social media. You 566 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter, Facebook, and in to Graham 567 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: at savor pod and we do hope to hear from you. 568 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: Savor is production at I Heart Radio. 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