Speaker 1: The volume.
Speaker 2: Well, welcome in to Nightcap.
Speaker 1: Now we don't have hen O shall we got TJ
Speaker 1: and Rack wall that's Darren Waller taking over.
Speaker 2: We hijacking. We have taken over Nightcap. Me and my dog.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna be with y'all for the night. Barrett
Speaker 2: woo us. Now you know the highlights.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk sports, We're gonna talk relationships and everything
Speaker 1: in between. I don't know if we'll really get to
Speaker 1: the relationships.
Speaker 2: We may.
Speaker 1: I'm a married guy. My dog I believe he's single.
Speaker 1: He was once married. So we were gonna get in everything.
Speaker 1: But with no further ado. I want to introduce uh
Speaker 1: Darren Waller, one of the best tight ends. It's crazy
Speaker 1: because his story and how he made it to the league,
Speaker 1: my story and how I made it to the league.
Speaker 2: It's one of a con It's one of a kind.
Speaker 1: So tell the people a little bit about yourself, your journey.
Speaker 1: You don't have to get too in depth with it
Speaker 1: unless you want to. But very very inspirational. Now did
Speaker 1: same what Chad? Oh, what Chad and Shannon be doing?
Speaker 1: Did this our version of a nightcap? So let's rock out? Yes, sir, no,
Speaker 1: not bus to be here brouh. My name is Darren Waller.
Speaker 1: For those of y'all that don't know me, I played
Speaker 1: eight years in the league. I retired just about a
Speaker 1: year ago.
Speaker 3: I played tight end for Baltimore my first three or
Speaker 3: four years before I got suspended for a year for
Speaker 3: drugs alcohol. All that came back into the league, got
Speaker 3: picked up by the Raiders, which is where my career
Speaker 3: kind of took off. Had back to back a thousand
Speaker 3: yard seasons, made a Pro Bowl, ended up my last
Speaker 3: year with the Giants, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a fucking a while alright for me.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I was a drug addict, alcoholic, like
Speaker 3: full blown, you know what I'm saying. So I'm blessed
Speaker 3: to be alive, blessed to be you know, if had
Speaker 3: the career that I had and just to be, you know,
Speaker 3: thirty two, retired not having to worry about no bread
Speaker 3: or nothing like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of money. Let him know, I
Speaker 1: got I got that paper. I ain't worried about me.
Speaker 2: We are over here, he ain't driven over here. Yeah. Now, now.
Speaker 1: This is a perfect day, night, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call it. So you know, my boy, retired because he
Speaker 1: on the bigger and better things and bigger and better things,
Speaker 1: and y'all want for everybody that's listening, y'all go get on.
Speaker 1: He gonna tell you what platform or song my boy
Speaker 1: make music? He rapping and he's just so happened to
Speaker 1: be dropping the song today, So y'all make sure y'all
Speaker 1: go stream his music.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Tell the people how'd you get involved and what made
Speaker 1: you say?
Speaker 2: Damn?
Speaker 1: This music has become therapeutic to me outside of the
Speaker 1: football around what came, what that?
Speaker 2: How that happened?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the music for me, I feel like it
Speaker 3: really started with learning who my great grandfather was. He
Speaker 3: was a legendary jazz pianist, like old people like be
Speaker 3: running up on me like your fast Waller's great grandson.
Speaker 3: And once I really started to learn that, my parents
Speaker 3: had me and my sister playing piano when was real little,
Speaker 3: and I was in like band and shit in middle school,
Speaker 3: and so I really had a passion for music. But
Speaker 3: then it's like football clients started taking off in high
Speaker 3: school and college and all that, so I wasn't really
Speaker 3: worried about music for real, And once I got dropped
Speaker 3: to the league, I was bored my rookie year, like
Speaker 3: when we first got to the Sree Rookie camp and
Speaker 3: all that shit you in the hotel, and so I
Speaker 3: was like, fuck it, I'm just gonna start writing. And
Speaker 3: I always said I will start and just see where
Speaker 3: it went. So I was twenty fifteen. I've been putting
Speaker 3: out projects probably every couple of years since, and now
Speaker 3: I really feel like I'm really developing in my sound
Speaker 3: and shit for real, Like I really had some songs that, like,
Speaker 3: you know, people really starting to look like like damn,
Speaker 3: like all right, like I see what you got going on?
Speaker 2: And yeah, so we plugging tonight, cat fucked up. Let
Speaker 2: me get on here today. So we plug in this song. Yeah,
Speaker 2: telling the song what platform and they go stream that thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a song called Choose Myself.
Speaker 3: I'm dropping tonight at nine pm Pacific, midnight Eastern. It's
Speaker 3: on Spotify, Apple Music, wherever you stream at search my
Speaker 3: name Darren Waller.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be there.
Speaker 3: It's probably one of the songs I'm most proud of
Speaker 3: that I ever made, or that I ever probably will make.
Speaker 2: So I'm extremely excited for people to listen to. So
Speaker 2: go spind that.
Speaker 1: So Tighten You is taking place this week. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: many times did you attend?
Speaker 3: I think I went to the first two, first two
Speaker 3: or three because I went when it was.
Speaker 2: Just like it was infant stages, just getting going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like fifteen twenty guys. It was guys
Speaker 3: that were like starters on their teams. And then it starts.
Speaker 3: They gotta like they guys getting bigger backing because it
Speaker 3: was it went really well early on, so they have
Speaker 3: more sponsorships. When they started bringing like dudes who are
Speaker 3: like a third tight end on they team.
Speaker 2: Like everybody in the league could come.
Speaker 3: He just got drafted, you undrafted, free agent like whatever
Speaker 3: you were as a couple, dudes from college, like everybody
Speaker 3: could come. So and it was you know, weightlifting, route running, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, kittling and Kelsey nimboys. They get after it too,
Speaker 3: so they got like night activities going on. So it's
Speaker 3: a it's actually a really cool event. They do a
Speaker 3: really good job. They got Greg Olsen is there too,
Speaker 3: so they getting a lot of sponsorship, a lot of money,
Speaker 3: bud Light, Bridge Stone, like all these big sponsors putting
Speaker 3: it on.
Speaker 2: So it's a solid event.
Speaker 1: Is there one thing from your time there that still
Speaker 1: stays with you today, that that you got whether it
Speaker 1: was from Travis, Greg George, or just any other tight
Speaker 1: end that was there that you still remember that helps
Speaker 1: you on the field and also off the field.
Speaker 3: I would say just being around, like traving his energy
Speaker 3: and just how he approaches route running and just his craft.
Speaker 3: Like he's real, he's earned the right to be incredibly creative.
Speaker 2: Like we see him on TV. He just doing we'd
Speaker 2: be like, the fuck is he doing?
Speaker 3: But like he's earned the right to do that, and
Speaker 3: he's just like emphasizing like putting your personality into the
Speaker 3: routes that you're running, because a lot of dudes like
Speaker 3: you know, like do trying to make the team like
Speaker 3: whoever it is, they run robotic routes and lines on paper,
Speaker 3: whereas you know somebody like him, you put in your
Speaker 3: own flavor, your own sauce on them routes. Once you
Speaker 3: understand the details of him, it takes that ship to
Speaker 3: a whole another level and you making shit come to
Speaker 3: life that really might not even have been able to
Speaker 3: come to life just because of who you are. So
Speaker 3: I took that away and I was like, yeah, you
Speaker 3: really just got to like stand on who the fuck
Speaker 3: you are?
Speaker 1: Like, can we let's get into the real uh nuance
Speaker 1: of route running and coaching in the league. We're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to keep it a buck here as
Speaker 1: you were coming up. And I know for myself, did
Speaker 1: y'all type in coach teach you how to be a
Speaker 1: better tight end? Or did he teach you how to
Speaker 1: be a better football player? And now I know those
Speaker 1: things are married like, but running arounds and getting open?
Speaker 1: Did you learn that on your own other players, on
Speaker 1: your coach, Because I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 3: My opinion, so for me, yeah, so I grew up,
Speaker 3: so you gotta understand. Like I started playing offense in
Speaker 3: college at Georgia Tech. We were in a triple option,
Speaker 3: so we was blocking like eighty percent of the time.
Speaker 3: For real, I was an hour on a go A
Speaker 3: hits a post or something or they would be like
Speaker 3: like a play action crack post or something like that.
Speaker 3: But we weren't really getting that kind of route running
Speaker 3: teaching and technique there because I mean that's just what
Speaker 3: they was asking us to do. I got to Baltimore,
Speaker 3: I feel like my rookie year, my coach was Bobby Ingram.
Speaker 3: He played in the league for like a decade. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Seattle.
Speaker 3: I felt like he was giving us some game my
Speaker 3: rookie year. But then my second year they moved me
Speaker 3: to tight end, and it was like at the end
Speaker 3: of my rookiear, They're like, yeah, when you get back,
Speaker 3: we think we're gonna try you at tight end.
Speaker 2: So I was like that they ain't even tell me
Speaker 2: nothing for real. I just got on.
Speaker 3: YouTube and it was just like, man, let me see
Speaker 3: what that was back when zack Ers was getting like
Speaker 3: one hundred twenty catches a year, Travis kelse greg Osen,
Speaker 3: I was watching Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates like Jimmy Graham.
Speaker 2: I was just on YouTube.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm just gonna do what they doing,
Speaker 3: like and my tight end coach like he was an
Speaker 3: old lineman in the league for a bit.
Speaker 2: Happens all the time. Bro. That's where I'm trying to
Speaker 2: go with this. It's like when.
Speaker 1: People think the NFL it's like the best of the best,
Speaker 1: best coaches, best players, but very rarely is a coach
Speaker 1: your position coach gonna get you better at your craft.
Speaker 1: You gotta do that on your own. No, that's facts.
Speaker 3: I look at teams now and you talk about like team,
Speaker 3: they like to talk about all the teams got to
Speaker 3: develop this player. It might be like maybe five teams
Speaker 3: that have people, if that that have people that can
Speaker 3: actually develop a player. They begging and hoping that you
Speaker 3: come in with with skills.
Speaker 2: And ready to go. Yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, and I think people don't realize that you
Speaker 1: get better on your own.
Speaker 2: Now. They will teach you football.
Speaker 1: You'll understand the game from a nexus and those perspective
Speaker 1: a lot better. But you know, they're gonna give you
Speaker 1: little technique things here and there, and if it works,
Speaker 1: they get all the credit.
Speaker 2: If it don't work, you suck. If it don't work,
Speaker 2: you suck. And you know.
Speaker 1: And so I tell off because I trained a lot
Speaker 1: of guys for the combine receivers and tight ends, and.
Speaker 2: I'm telling them, like, when you get to your team, it's.
Speaker 1: Not all the time, but ninety percent of the time,
Speaker 1: your coach ain't gonna tell you how to get open.
Speaker 1: He don't know, because if you're a receiver, you're a
Speaker 1: tight end. Your coaches are all life. And what the
Speaker 1: fuck he know about running a route? He don't watch
Speaker 1: somebody run around it like, and so that part of
Speaker 1: it is, at least with the NFL people, you really
Speaker 1: have to invest in yourself away from the facility and
Speaker 1: away from the team, and if you don't do that,
Speaker 1: your career short lived. And luckily for you, you're able
Speaker 1: to get on YouTube and see what the best you're
Speaker 1: doing and translate it. Because some people get on YouTube,
Speaker 1: watch them and get out there. Still fuck it up.
Speaker 1: They still gonna get out there and mess it up
Speaker 1: because they mine. They just they can't do it. So
Speaker 1: that that part of it not many people know about
Speaker 1: the league is get better on your own, or watch
Speaker 1: everybody else play be watching.
Speaker 2: Team, I'm better than him. He couldn't fuck with be.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but that, and I think that's pretty much
Speaker 1: league wide at every position. I would say the old
Speaker 1: line probably get developed the most.
Speaker 2: The coaches really make them better.
Speaker 1: Outside of that, unless you got a Eric Yarboro with
Speaker 1: the Rams, Keenan mccardal with the Vikings, Sean Jefferson. I
Speaker 1: don't even know where Sean at now. But if you
Speaker 1: don't have one of them coaches, you in trouble. And
Speaker 1: if it's a receiver coach that I left you out,
Speaker 1: I left you out because you don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Take you personally, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to get your bag deeper on your own.
Speaker 3: Like for the young pole that's watching, like you got
Speaker 3: to take into account. You gotta find you somebody you
Speaker 3: can work with in the off season, like ask the
Speaker 3: vest that's around you.
Speaker 2: Just really get into it.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you they got somebody like you really got
Speaker 3: to invest the nation on your own.
Speaker 1: And that's why when I brought up tight End You
Speaker 1: with we're getting better amongst our peers. Me and Chad
Speaker 1: have talked about doing the receiver aspect of tight End You.
Speaker 1: They kind of you know, y'all was our inspiration on
Speaker 1: doing that. We're gonna see where that go. Now let's
Speaker 1: get into Uh it's a couple of days old. But man,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're an athlete. You watch a lot of NBA.
Speaker 2: Huh. Yeah. What were your thoughts? One?
Speaker 1: It was a great series, Yeah, but it was the
Speaker 1: least watch series in however many seven game series.
Speaker 2: First seven game series I believe in nine to ten years.
Speaker 1: But people weren't tuned in because it was an Indiana
Speaker 1: Pacer team and an Oklahoma City team.
Speaker 2: Small markets thought on the series.
Speaker 1: I believe if Holler Burn don't go down, Indiana may
Speaker 1: win that. And I'm going in really different tangents here.
Speaker 1: But the NBA, they gotta figure this Achilles injury out. Bro, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with these dude, Like
Speaker 1: so many of them are tearner as a kid. Is
Speaker 1: the lack of strength? Is it a lack of mobility?
Speaker 1: Is it too many games? Is it too many games
Speaker 1: at a young age and aau and the wearing's hair.
Speaker 2: It's so many variables and a lot to unpack.
Speaker 3: So let's go yeah, man, I mean shoot, starting with
Speaker 3: the series, yeah, I mean I feel like people put
Speaker 3: so much stress on the markets and I guess the
Speaker 3: average person that's tuning in wants to see a la
Speaker 3: in a Boston or New York and whatever. But you
Speaker 3: look at those two teams and you look at the
Speaker 3: series that we like, that's that's ball being played at
Speaker 3: its highest level. You look at the depth on both teams,
Speaker 3: like the character on both teams. You got so many
Speaker 3: dudes that are like fine tuned in perfect for their
Speaker 3: individual roles.
Speaker 2: Like it just creates that back and forth. I want
Speaker 2: to see shit go seven.
Speaker 3: I want to see Wars like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: that's what that's what we got. And with Haliburn going down,
Speaker 3: like he was cooking in that first quarter in that
Speaker 3: game seven, So it's like that game definitely would have
Speaker 3: been completely different at least down to the wire in
Speaker 3: my eyes. So probably you could make an impact for
Speaker 3: a PACER's win. But yeah, Haliburton going down, and it's
Speaker 3: like you got guys going out there with the calf injury.
Speaker 3: When that calf locks up and you're trying to load
Speaker 3: up on that back leg, the calf's biomechanically, that calf
Speaker 3: is taking a lot of that force.
Speaker 2: You have many major injuries when you played, Like nah,
Speaker 2: not lower body.
Speaker 3: I had a torn label on my shoulder, but I
Speaker 3: just rehab that, had an off season kay the final
Speaker 3: month with it. But yeah, no major injuries for me
Speaker 3: for real. But that achilles motherfucker is crazy. Like I
Speaker 3: was around with Steve Smith Senior toward his achilles and
Speaker 3: he was trying to rehabit, and it's like one calf
Speaker 3: was humongous and the other calf was like like it
Speaker 3: was like non existent for a while, and just like
Speaker 3: the work he had to put in US. He's been
Speaker 3: watching toward his achilles too, so it's like that's a
Speaker 3: that's a major major, that's.
Speaker 2: Like damn near twelve months. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: When you look at Damian Littler, Okay, he's a little older,
Speaker 1: Jason Taylums young Halliburton's young KD tore his at in
Speaker 1: the dance age. So but shit, KD came back like
Speaker 1: it wasn't shit still balling. They just got to figure
Speaker 1: that out.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. If it's strength, mobility,
Speaker 1: I don't know. But for how La Burton, it sucks
Speaker 1: because boy was cooking three threes in the first quarter
Speaker 1: nine points. I'm like, oh shit, and I picked I
Speaker 1: had I picked Oklahoma City to win it, but I
Speaker 1: found myself rooting for Indiana. It was kind of weird.
Speaker 1: H But yeah, man prayers twin. I hope he recovers.
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna miss the entirety of next season because
Speaker 1: it happens so late in the season. But you think,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, do you think this is a start of
Speaker 1: a dynasty? Considering Alex Caruso is their oldest player at
Speaker 1: thirty one.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I think He just gave like a great
Speaker 3: detail of just like how young the nucleus of that
Speaker 3: team is. And you look at young teams, you think
Speaker 3: like they could be flashy in a lot of areas,
Speaker 3: but there might be like some giant holes.
Speaker 2: They don't have really any holes for real.
Speaker 3: To the best defensive team in the league, they got
Speaker 3: Shaye League MVP J dubb as your number two score.
Speaker 3: He's taken over a couple games in the finals. Check
Speaker 3: Holmgren my D twenty every now and then. He's a
Speaker 3: rim protector. You got Heart and Stein setting screens, protecting
Speaker 3: the rim, catching putbacks and oops and whatnot. You got
Speaker 3: Caruso lead and playing defense. Blue dors a lot down
Speaker 3: the fens like you got from off the bench. Isaiah
Speaker 3: Joe led the team in three point percentag during the season.
Speaker 3: It's like, you have so many roles that are covered
Speaker 3: on that team. It's like, but I mean, that Western
Speaker 3: Conference is a motherfucker and teams are gonna be coming.
Speaker 2: So it's a.
Speaker 1: One team particular down in Texas. Actually two, actually damn three.
Speaker 1: The Rocket's gonna be better with KD. They gonna be
Speaker 1: a fucking problem. Yeah, they gonna be a problem. They
Speaker 1: got their closer now in KD. When Kyrie come back
Speaker 1: with the Mavericks, that gonna be a problem. And if
Speaker 1: Cooper flag, if he can acclimate himself to the INNdiA
Speaker 1: game a d Cooper flag. They just resigned Gafford, and
Speaker 1: then when Kyrie come they gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2: And then you got weinbyfaun.
Speaker 1: Castle the second pick, which probably is gonna be Dylan Harper.
Speaker 2: They't gonna be a problem.
Speaker 1: I'm a Laker fan, so we damn show gonna be
Speaker 1: a problem at least speakers cross playing. I hope we're
Speaker 1: the Western Conference is gonna be a blood bath. Go
Speaker 1: to State as long as Steph and Draymond there, yeh,
Speaker 1: they gonna all they gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2: It's so.
Speaker 1: A dynasty when people start throwing that word out there.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Denver with Yolkich and Jamal Murray they
Speaker 1: coming back, It just it's so much that has to
Speaker 1: take place for you to be a dynasty.
Speaker 2: But they so young that it's like, damn, I don't
Speaker 2: see why not.
Speaker 1: Shay gonna put up twenty eight to thirty two average
Speaker 1: every season as long as he's healthy. Can Chet Hongren
Speaker 1: Can he take the next step? Can he take the
Speaker 1: next step offensively, defensively? He gonna give you a rem protector.
Speaker 1: He moves his feet very well to be a big guy.
Speaker 1: And he's real thing.
Speaker 2: But he not.
Speaker 1: He not a punk like you got just dogging out
Speaker 1: like that, Like he looks like he can be dogged out. Nah,
Speaker 1: it's because he's so thin. You like, mamma, take his
Speaker 1: low ass down. You got dogging cheed holmegren out. And
Speaker 1: so from that perspective, they everybody has an opportunity and
Speaker 1: a chance to be that. I don't see it taking place.
Speaker 1: I just with the Rockets, bro, everybody stay healthy. I
Speaker 1: don't know how they lose. If you put a lineup
Speaker 1: of Van Fleet's point guard KD six eleven, Jabari Smith six',
Speaker 1: Teen sengoon six, eleven and who else Wes Amir, thompson
Speaker 1: there we go six. Seven she gonna do with that
Speaker 1: lineup and coming off the. Bench this is the crazy
Speaker 1: part with The rockets that not many people talk.
Speaker 2: About, one two.
Speaker 1: Three the third pick of the draft last, Year Reed
Speaker 1: shepherd got no burn the third, pick Cam more he
Speaker 1: comes to The. Lakers he, played he getting big minutes
Speaker 1: with me gott no burn and SO i look at
Speaker 1: The rockets, Like i'm, impressed and if they can stay,
Speaker 1: healthy now can kd? Uh and he, said it is
Speaker 1: not my responsibility to lead and to a certain, degree
Speaker 1: and this is WHAT i don't like about, Sports and
Speaker 1: we can tap into this. Too why is it that
Speaker 1: when you're the best, player that expects you to always
Speaker 1: be the? Leader sometimes the best player isn't that he
Speaker 1: don't have that leadership type of personality That god's ain't following.
Speaker 3: Him, YEAH i think when he SAYS i it's not
Speaker 3: my job to, LEAD i think he's saying it's not
Speaker 3: my job to lead in the traditional way that you
Speaker 3: think somebody's supposed to be a. Leader like as far
Speaker 3: as being like A Ray lewis type of, lead there's
Speaker 3: different ways to, Lead like he can just lead by his.
Speaker 3: Example LIKE i think the biggest Jumped rockets can take
Speaker 3: is like you get an Amen thompson attached To kd's
Speaker 3: hip day in the lab getting shot up and a'm
Speaker 3: And thompson devotes a jump shot that one might be
Speaker 3: a LEAGUE mvp at some, point you know What i'm. Saying,
Speaker 3: so but, YEAH i think there's so many different leadership
Speaker 3: styles and.
Speaker 2: Sports i'm one of.
Speaker 3: THEM i always thought, like, damn LIKE i can't be
Speaker 3: a leader even want to have to see on my.
Speaker 3: Chest i'm, like AM i really like a leader If
Speaker 3: i'm not giving the pregame speech and having everybody ready
Speaker 3: to jump out their. Skin But i'm more of the
Speaker 3: dude that's like the. Wolf the wolf leads from the
Speaker 3: back of the. Pack it's like we're not. Letting IF
Speaker 3: i see somebody, SLIPPING i see somebody's confidence, Dropping i'm
Speaker 3: gonna be the first one over there to, them telling
Speaker 3: them who they really, are telling them remember who they,
Speaker 3: are and like keeping their, mind keeping their chest, up
Speaker 3: you know What i'm. Saying so that's more the leadership
Speaker 3: STYLE i. HAVE i think THAT'S kd as. Well but, like,
Speaker 3: yeah you don't got to be that, raw, raw pregame
Speaker 3: punch a hole in the wall guy to be a.
Speaker 2: Leader were you? Were?
Speaker 1: You obviously from gathering what you're, saying you wasn't a,
Speaker 1: raw raw guy during the.
Speaker 3: Game, Nah i'm more So i'm talking LIKE i am right,
Speaker 3: Now like you can you can.
Speaker 2: Feel like did you talk shit to the defense during the.
Speaker 2: Game it took a lot for me to talk shit to.
Speaker 2: Somebody UH.
Speaker 1: A lot different, Then LIKE i was not Raw rob
Speaker 1: before the, Game like before a, Game i'm, Chilling i'm real, Calm,
Speaker 1: like don't come, here you know how you're getting a
Speaker 1: huddle on everybody walking up fucking. Head But i'm, Like,
Speaker 1: bro don't handle, me not had, Buddy i'm not jumping
Speaker 1: up in the pile before the.
Speaker 2: Game i'm. Not i've never did you? Ever have you ever?
Speaker 3: DONE i never did that one time activity, Bro, BRO
Speaker 3: i never did.
Speaker 2: It one time in my.
Speaker 1: CAREER i don't know what that ship is, like but
Speaker 1: guys used to do that all the, time so that
Speaker 1: that wasn't.
Speaker 2: Me but.
Speaker 1: When the game, STARTED i don't know what happened to, Me,
Speaker 1: Bro LIKE i would just go, Crazy LIKE i would
Speaker 1: talk shit to the. RESTS i would talk ship to
Speaker 1: the other, team LIKE i would. LISTEN i would listen
Speaker 1: to a lot of J zy before the, game and
Speaker 1: then right BEFORE i came, OUT i would turn On,
Speaker 1: Uh it's in the, air THE dmx Version Phil, collins
Speaker 1: the damn ex version of, that AND i don't know
Speaker 1: what it, Was. BRO i would just like IF i
Speaker 1: was playing, TODAY i would get thrown out BECAUSE i
Speaker 1: would go after rest so, much but back, then Like
Speaker 1: i'll never forget one.
Speaker 2: Line, judge he called a penalty on.
Speaker 1: One of our linemen AND i looked up at the
Speaker 1: jumbo tron AND i didn't think it was. Hold SO
Speaker 1: i said something to. Him this motherfucker was like fuck,
Speaker 1: YOU tj the. RAT i was like fuck and so
Speaker 1: we was just going at. It ten minutes later he
Speaker 1: came up to. Me were, GOOD i, said, yeah, yeah we.
Speaker 1: Good today's, Game i'm getting thrown. Out i'm getting thrown
Speaker 1: out and so that that to. Me but and a
Speaker 1: lot of my teammates would tell you, LIKE i let,
Speaker 1: him AND i didn't choose to be a. Leader as
Speaker 1: you can, See i'm a. TALKER i like to, talk
Speaker 1: and so guys, Like i'm gonna lead by. Example IF
Speaker 1: i feel you not working, Hard i'm not calling you
Speaker 1: out front, Everybody i'm gonna come put my arm around,
Speaker 1: you be, like.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: We all dream to get, here and now you acting
Speaker 1: like it don't, matter because if you weren't, here.
Speaker 2: You would be.
Speaker 1: Upset but you taken being here for, granted and so uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: man that that leadership. PART i don't believe it always
Speaker 1: has to be the. Quarterback it it always has to
Speaker 1: be the best.
Speaker 3: Player jack, described what you just described is, leadership like
Speaker 3: we have a picture what we think it is is
Speaker 3: like in the middle of the, huddle pregame.
Speaker 2: Speech but what you just described is real.
Speaker 3: Leadership how you bring somebody to the, side and that's
Speaker 3: WHAT i would bring the truth to, Them like that's.
Speaker 2: Leadership but, Love Look, Jack, jack can you hear? Me?
Speaker 2: YEAH i can hear. You hear, me my.
Speaker 1: Dog, Look so that's partner's perfect. Segue just so y'all
Speaker 1: know This Jack.
Speaker 2: Jones THIS i know, him Miss.
Speaker 1: Jack jack been knowing this boy since he was, fourteen
Speaker 1: seeing go from A i guess a little boy to
Speaker 1: a young man to a grown man with. CHILDREN i
Speaker 1: love this boy like you my son for, real like
Speaker 1: your family. Member, man could you hear the? Conversation that's
Speaker 1: miss That's Darren. Waller you know who that, is, Right.
Speaker 2: YEAH i know what that.
Speaker 1: Is if you, didn't he would have most your little.
Speaker 1: Ass jacky out your. Mind let me let me bring
Speaker 1: you into this conversation about. Leadership what's your take on
Speaker 1: leadership as far as the best, player the coaching staff
Speaker 1: wants him to be the leader as supposed to just
Speaker 1: the locker room determines who the leader, is whether it's
Speaker 1: the best player or, not or the, quarterback whoever it may.
Speaker 2: BE i think the.
Speaker 4: Leader is based on which we do every day in the.
Speaker 4: Consistency you know What i'm. Saying you don't get that
Speaker 4: leader role because you're the best, player because you're in
Speaker 4: a certain. Position you get that leader role because the
Speaker 4: work you put in and how you lead the, team
Speaker 4: and how you get the guys to rally a log
Speaker 4: and how you get guys fired. Up you, know it's
Speaker 4: a lot of things to go with. That BUT i
Speaker 4: don't think it's position position.
Speaker 2: BASE i don't think.
Speaker 1: That all, Right so we're gonna we're gonna talk about,
Speaker 1: you and we're gonna bring the people into.
Speaker 2: Your.
Speaker 1: Story So i'm gonna let him tell a bit of.
Speaker 1: It But Jack jack grew up born and Raised Long, Beach. California,
Speaker 1: yeah google, ahead Google Long beach if y'all not familiar with.
Speaker 1: It his family is well known in The Lone beach
Speaker 1: in the city Of Loan. Beach from WHAT i was
Speaker 1: told back in the, day it's two families that Run Long.
Speaker 1: Beach Honda jones is in what The. Calhouns that's WHAT
Speaker 1: i was. Told jones is in The. Calhouns But jack
Speaker 1: Jack man in high school unbelievable on both sides of the,
Speaker 1: ball defense and.
Speaker 2: Offense AND i tell people this all the.
Speaker 1: Time And i'm not just saying this because you're, here
Speaker 1: because you KNOW i wouldn't sugar coat.
Speaker 2: Nothing this, boy when he was a, boy used to.
Speaker 1: Practice SO i never seen a kid in high school
Speaker 1: practice as hard as. You AND i Think i've told
Speaker 1: you this's plenty of. Time like we, Said, Jack, jack slow.
Speaker 1: Down i've never seen a kid this young practice that
Speaker 1: hard in love football the way that you loved it
Speaker 1: in high school like it was. It we gotta Tell,
Speaker 1: god come, on, bro go, Harder, Jack, jack get out the.
Speaker 2: Shrip, no you slow.
Speaker 1: Down he was like that at fourteen years, old genuinely loved.
Speaker 1: Football he done had some mishaps in the. League AND
Speaker 1: i get on the phone with him And i'm, Like,
Speaker 1: jack come on.
Speaker 2: Your.
Speaker 1: SITUATION i believe you one of the best players in
Speaker 1: the league that's not in the league that should be
Speaker 1: in the. League because you was in the, league you'd
Speaker 1: be starting on at least twenty eight of the thirty two.
Speaker 1: Teams we know That i'm a vouch foring for any
Speaker 1: team that's listening to. This we don't have conversations heat,
Speaker 1: conversations but the last three weeks probably just making sure.
Speaker 2: You got your shit. Straight your.
Speaker 1: Father you have matured and we all mature at different
Speaker 1: rates at different, times and they can't expect you to
Speaker 1: mature on a. Timeline you're gonna mature on your. Time
Speaker 1: with that being, said kind of take.
Speaker 2: Us through going From New england to The.
Speaker 1: Raiders you finally get a coach that believed in, you
Speaker 1: that same coach that was with us At Long, beach
Speaker 1: probably in Ap Antonio pears and where you are now
Speaker 1: and what you're look into accomplish moving, FORWARD.
Speaker 2: I, mean just a whole.
Speaker 4: Situation it was a it was a, blessing man humbling.
Speaker 2: Experience you. Know that's ALL i got to, say and.
Speaker 4: That i'm blessed the evering to play with ap you,
Speaker 4: know a high school, coach a god who over. Me
Speaker 4: you know pretty much you know a lot of part
Speaker 4: of a lot of my. Life so you know that's a.
Speaker 4: BLESSING i don't take that for. Granted but looking, forward,
Speaker 4: MAN i JUST i just look forward to you, know
Speaker 4: getting another opportunity and really proving, myself, man just really
Speaker 4: proving That i've grown And i've learned that the mistakes
Speaker 4: THAT i made is they already, made you know What i'm.
Speaker 4: Saying AND i don't want to keep making those, mistakes
Speaker 4: you know What i'm. SAYING i don't want to be
Speaker 4: one of those guys looked at it as like a
Speaker 4: bad kid or a bad, man or somebody who's uncoachable
Speaker 4: or somebody who who who who doesn't fit in. PROGRAMS
Speaker 4: i want to be that guy that fits their every.
Speaker 4: PROGRAM i want to be a story in my. Role
Speaker 4: like you know What i'm. Saying it's just LIKE i
Speaker 4: have to go through them times to learn and to.
Speaker 4: Understand it's LIKE i went through those songs And i'm
Speaker 4: just ready for the next, opportunity just to prove myself
Speaker 4: for you, know take full advantage.
Speaker 2: Of, it no. Doubt.
Speaker 3: JACK i want to ask you a question BECAUSE i
Speaker 3: didn't even for your rookie years twenty.
Speaker 2: Two, right oh, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah SO i was on The raiders in twenty two
Speaker 3: and you was on The patriots AND i was out of.
Speaker 2: PRACTICE i had an.
Speaker 3: INJURY i remember one day we came into the meeting
Speaker 3: post practice into an offensive, meeting and everybody was, like,
Speaker 3: man it's this rookie out there that's that's talking, crazy
Speaker 3: that's trying to. Kay like you think like there's a
Speaker 3: lot of vets in the league that are not trying
Speaker 3: to step to tay and here you are as a
Speaker 3: rookie like out there training, Camp like what's, like what's
Speaker 3: up like trying to compete with the best receiver in the.
Speaker 2: League you know What i'm, Saying, like where does that come?
Speaker 3: From like and tell the people like the type of
Speaker 3: eds that it, takes especially as a corner and somebody
Speaker 3: that's like really out there shutting shit.
Speaker 2: Down like you can't just be out.
Speaker 3: There, tommy like hoping you could run with, You like
Speaker 3: you really got to step out there knowing who you
Speaker 3: are and what you bring to the.
Speaker 2: Table so like is that can that be? Taught is?
Speaker 2: That do? You are you born with? That like speak to? That?
Speaker 4: UH i MEAN i feel like you built that through
Speaker 4: through the work you put. In, Man, Honestly like like
Speaker 4: WHAT tj, SAID i was a guy in high school
Speaker 4: who played in so much, work SO i just felt
Speaker 4: like nobody worked harder than. Me you wasn't gonna outwork.
Speaker 4: ME i feel like EVERYTHING i, DID i was gonna
Speaker 4: do it. Better you know What i'm saying that if
Speaker 4: you if you beat me this, rep that was just that.
Speaker 5: Rep i'm anna win the whole battle, through you.
Speaker 2: Know What i'm.
Speaker 4: Saying and so WHEN i the marster THAT i had
Speaker 4: going up against, say it was just, Like i'm not
Speaker 4: here to to put my.
Speaker 2: Toe in the. Water you know What i'm. Saying i'm
Speaker 2: trying to go in head.
Speaker 4: First i'm trying to go in and guard the best
Speaker 4: receivers week in and week. Out that's What that's WHAT
Speaker 4: i wanted to, do you know What i'm saying, That
Speaker 4: AND i believe in my abilities AND i BELIEVE i
Speaker 4: could do that AND i will do.
Speaker 5: That and WHEN i give my, Opportunity i'm approve.
Speaker 2: That, yeah moving. Forward Jack jones the.
Speaker 1: Person if you're a general, manager you a head, coach
Speaker 1: why should they feel comfortable signing you on your roster
Speaker 1: on their roster.
Speaker 2: Feeling like you may be a?
Speaker 1: Liability what would you tell them if they ask you
Speaker 1: THAT i mean a?
Speaker 2: Liability and which ways do you know off the? Field
Speaker 2: personal on the.
Speaker 1: FIELD i don't believe anybody has any questions on the,
Speaker 1: Field Jack jones a.
Speaker 2: Baller to, me everything is off the. FIELD i know your,
Speaker 2: CHARACTER i know who you.
Speaker 1: ARE i know the environment you grew up, in and
Speaker 1: that environment is it's me or.
Speaker 2: You i'd rather you than me and deal with the.
Speaker 1: Consequences but as we, mature are that ain't always the right.
Speaker 1: Way and you've learned that and you're still learning, That,
Speaker 1: Jack jack the, person not the, player BECAUSE i don't
Speaker 1: believe there's any question when it pertains to the, player
Speaker 1: it's the.
Speaker 2: Person i've.
Speaker 5: Grown, Man i'm not that same young MAN i used to.
Speaker 2: Be you know What i'm.
Speaker 4: SAYING i got, KIDS i GOT i got my babies
Speaker 4: depending on.
Speaker 2: Me you know What i'm.
Speaker 4: SAYING i can't just go out here and make the
Speaker 4: same mistakes or the same DECISIONS i used to.
Speaker 5: Make when WHEN i was young without, kids.
Speaker 2: You know What i'm.
Speaker 4: Saying SO i just kind of feel like my, babies,
Speaker 4: man they just they just they weighing on me a lot.
Speaker 4: More you, Know i'm spending a lot more time with,
Speaker 4: them and it's just like it just means a lot
Speaker 4: more to, me you know What i'm. Saying you, KNOW
Speaker 4: i already love the. Game so just the fact That
Speaker 4: i'm not on the team AND i can't, say, like,
Speaker 4: Yes i'm in THE nfl right now currently, today and
Speaker 4: like it crushes.
Speaker 2: Me it, hurts like you know What i'm, saying BECAUSE
Speaker 2: i love.
Speaker 5: Ball but but, man it's my.
Speaker 4: Babies, Man i'm a change, man AND i feel like
Speaker 4: everybody around me can see, that and you just have
Speaker 4: to get around me to see.
Speaker 2: That, no for, real, shit you, talk you're talking to
Speaker 2: somebody that.
Speaker 3: Man like where people at one point in time in
Speaker 3: my career try to define me by my character at
Speaker 3: a certain place point or take a snapshot of who
Speaker 3: they thought THAT i. Was but that never that was
Speaker 3: not the end narrative of my. Story after that there,
Speaker 3: was it Was Pro. Bowls it was the best years
Speaker 3: of my. Career, me you know What i'm, saying having
Speaker 3: A ce on my chest and people like really respectuh
Speaker 3: WHAT i brought to the table because that who was
Speaker 3: the true?
Speaker 2: Meat that was the real.
Speaker 3: Meat SO i understand what it's like to go through
Speaker 3: shit and you, know react in certain ways or whatever
Speaker 3: it may be in. Life but, man there's still so
Speaker 3: much of your story that is gonna be. Written, man,
Speaker 3: like don't even think about this time as like ever
Speaker 3: being the ending or being or doubting yourself.
Speaker 2: Just because you haven't found a home.
Speaker 3: Yet, Bro like you still got a lot to bring
Speaker 3: to the, table And god's got a lot more in
Speaker 3: front of, you, bro.
Speaker 1: For, real, officiated, man, hey in your short, career short,
Speaker 1: career who's the best receivers that.
Speaker 2: You had to guard? It and who's won by?
Speaker 1: Day, no, no, no, no, no every some good Players and
Speaker 1: who's one that surprised you, like oh, shit he got
Speaker 1: some SOYM i didn't think he was like.
Speaker 5: That uh uh that One Quaer Jack.
Speaker 2: Jones that's the only. ONE i ain't gonna lie you
Speaker 2: know that these boy can keeve. Me i'm keep it, real.
Speaker 2: Man If i'm really in my, Back i've got nothing
Speaker 2: to do with seeing. You what receivers have you covered
Speaker 2: where you like they're?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no matter of, fact matter of.
Speaker 4: Fact thinking of that, practice that, practice that rated practice
Speaker 4: In New. ENGLAND i mean WHEN i was In New,
Speaker 4: england it WAS i don't even remember his. NAME i
Speaker 4: just remember he was a number eighty, nine AND i
Speaker 4: was talking so much stuff to take a lot of
Speaker 4: that boy came out there and went two for two of.
Speaker 2: Them y'all was so. Sick you, know you know who
Speaker 2: number eighty nine? Is? Drylin you, know.
Speaker 1: Back in twenty, TWO i think it WAS i want to, say,
Speaker 1: LIKE i want to Say.
Speaker 5: Cooper maybe it was Like cooper something or Something.
Speaker 2: COOPER i, think, nah That Mario cooper at eight, Nine
Speaker 2: but that was a while. Ago that was BEFORE i
Speaker 2: even got.
Speaker 3: There Brian edwards was eighty nine and twenty, one BUT
Speaker 3: i think he went to The falcons at some.
Speaker 2: POINT i don't. Know oh, no maybe his name Was.
Speaker 5: TONY i Think tony or does that sound?
Speaker 4: RIGHT i don't, Know, bro he was that he was
Speaker 4: eight for, sure for, sure little.
Speaker 2: Brother sorry, Sorry, bro if you see, This i'm. Sorry.
Speaker 2: Bro was It keeling? Call it?
Speaker 3: WAS i really Don't King cole was eighty. FOUR i
Speaker 3: definitely Remember Keiling.
Speaker 2: Cole.
Speaker 1: Boy, YEAH i remember my dog and that's my. Dog oh,
Speaker 1: man that's one of the coining. Bro yeah, yeah so key,
Speaker 1: key like, YOU i trained. Guys he was one of
Speaker 1: the first guys THAT i. Trained when he came. Out you,
Speaker 1: know he he acting, now he trying to get Into.
Speaker 2: Hollywood he would.
Speaker 3: Be, bro he should be doing some comedy skits bro
Speaker 3: like he a clown For, yeah.
Speaker 1: So, Jack, okay nobody Gives Jack jones' problems on the
Speaker 1: field as far as a.
Speaker 2: Receiver give me corners that you.
Speaker 1: Not, say model your game, after but you like to
Speaker 1: watch to try to pick up little things here and.
Speaker 2: THERE i mean all.
Speaker 4: The guys who they say is top, corners like literally
Speaker 4: all of, Them Jalen, JOHNSON JayR alexander H Jayalen, ramsey.
Speaker 5: Aj terrell Bo i'm Missing i'm missing somebody else on that.
Speaker 4: List i'll be watching Like patrick's centertaining a. LOT i
Speaker 4: think that. SAID i watched a little bit Of Darius.
Speaker 4: Clay I'm i'm a fan of, them BUT i don't,
Speaker 4: KNOW i just never really tapped in that.
Speaker 5: Much i'm gonna start looking into him a little bit.
Speaker 4: More BUT i just watched all the top guys who
Speaker 4: they say is the top, guys and you, KNOW i
Speaker 4: JUST i don't.
Speaker 2: KNOW i just try to be, that be better than.
Speaker 2: That whatever you want to.
Speaker 1: Say when when you when you look at the situation
Speaker 1: where here we. Sit june twenty, fourth a lot of
Speaker 1: training camps begin probably twenty one to twenty seven days.
Speaker 2: Out when that time, Comes Jack. JONES i called him Jack.
Speaker 1: Jackson when you hear me stuttering with, that it's it's
Speaker 1: because you Know i'm calling him what we called him
Speaker 1: and not his, Boys Jackie jones by his real. Name
Speaker 1: if you are not, signed you gotta let it like
Speaker 1: you're gonna still be working like you are. Signed because
Speaker 1: my last, season it was a, lockout AND i Wasn't
Speaker 1: when the lockout, ENDED i want to say it was
Speaker 1: like either Late august or Early. September was just like last,
Speaker 1: minute about twenty twelve or two thousand and, eleven whatever it,
Speaker 1: was AND i was working, out BUT i wasn't really
Speaker 1: working that.
Speaker 2: Out so THEN.
Speaker 1: I started like trying to work out and rush everything
Speaker 1: AND i strained my. Calf and THEN i got signed
Speaker 1: like four days, later.
Speaker 2: Played with a caf.
Speaker 1: THAT i couldn't, Burst LIKE i couldn't really. Run i'd
Speaker 1: go about eighty, percent BUT i can never get to one.
Speaker 1: Hundred and they wouldn't tell me. THIS i got coaches
Speaker 1: telling other players, like, yeah, MAN dj lost a step,
Speaker 1: literally And i'm, like, bro my cat IS i can't.
Speaker 2: Run and SO i say that to, say whether you
Speaker 2: are on a team or, not AND i believe you
Speaker 2: will AND i believe you should.
Speaker 1: Be, boy you better be working like you on the
Speaker 1: team because when that opportunity, come they don't care if
Speaker 1: you've been working out. Hard they don't care if OH
Speaker 1: i didn't THINK i was gonna be. Signed you know
Speaker 1: the saying you stay, Ready you ain't gotta get, ready.
Speaker 2: Ain't gotta get.
Speaker 1: Ready and so my message to you is stay ready.
Speaker 1: MENTALLY i know Your pops is on your. Ass i'm
Speaker 1: on your. Ass, pause but there's no more motivation than
Speaker 1: them babies you. Got if you don't do it for,
Speaker 1: nobody you do it for them in, yourself because it's
Speaker 1: telling like you shouldn't be damn Where i'm gonna. Sign
Speaker 1: and It's Jack jones the, person Not Jack jones the.
Speaker 1: Player now we're gonna leave. That, hey what you like
Speaker 1: to do outside of? FOOTBALL i know you be playing video?
Speaker 1: Games i'll beat the fuck out you In. MADDEN i
Speaker 1: know you be PLAYING i will beat the fuck out
Speaker 1: you In. Madden but outside of, that, hey do you
Speaker 1: be playing? For do you just play like head to
Speaker 1: head or you be on? Franchise, SHIT i mean it.
Speaker 1: Depends i'll be playing all, that, bro you play? Franchise,
Speaker 1: Yeah i'm gonna add you to some. LEAGUES i, mean
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your ass, beat all, right for, sure
Speaker 1: we're gonna see it. Here you you you play video
Speaker 1: games or you two grown for that once being a
Speaker 1: booth being on a video GAME i started.
Speaker 3: Making WHEN i started making, MUSIC i just like video,
Speaker 3: games just kind of just like fell.
Speaker 2: Off, naturally you ain't got no. Art so how often
Speaker 2: you in the studio for me or? Him you ain't? Rapping,
Speaker 2: yeah all, right talking to Mister.
Speaker 5: Waller showing up the.
Speaker 2: WAY i gotta change your.
Speaker 1: Stame no you you you look like you rapping with
Speaker 1: all the jury, on like proget pay something and guys
Speaker 1: the Slow.
Speaker 2: Nah but, Shit i'll be uh being the. LAB i
Speaker 2: got my.
Speaker 3: Engineer he lives In, houston and SO i fly him
Speaker 3: out or either go there for like three four days
Speaker 3: in a. Row i'll usually like stock up writing some,
Speaker 3: ship probably like three four songs by the TIME i
Speaker 3: go see probably like once a, month and then we'll
Speaker 3: cook up on the spot to get a couple of.
Speaker 3: Songs and so every time we link, up it's three
Speaker 3: four songs that's getting. Done and, yeah So i'm not
Speaker 3: recording every. Day PLUS i think feel, like you know
Speaker 3: What i'm. SAYING i rap about real life shit That
Speaker 3: i'm going, through shit That i'm really. Experiencing So i'm,
Speaker 3: LIKE i feel LIKE i got to have life lived in.
Speaker 3: BETWEEN i can't just be like carved up in the
Speaker 3: studio Thinking i'm about write about some real studio in your.
Speaker 1: House, Yeah i'm, In i'm in The i'm in the
Speaker 1: room right. Now yeah it looks Like that's WHY i
Speaker 1: asked in the.
Speaker 3: STUDIO i got the acoustics and, SHIP i got the
Speaker 3: competed modeling center right.
Speaker 4: There you know, how don't play anything else Like jones
Speaker 4: piano or. Anything i've been playing piano for about a year.
Speaker 4: NOW i know how to play a lot of. SONGS
Speaker 4: i really got to learn like theory and shit for.
Speaker 4: Real But i'm NOT i ain't no real piano. PLAYER
Speaker 4: i could play some.
Speaker 1: Songs but see he asking you that because all them
Speaker 1: artists that come up by The Long, beach that's what it.
Speaker 1: Is it's all kind of hardists because it's a small.
Speaker 1: City but it's so many people with so much. Talent
Speaker 1: you know, What, jack how many people don't let me
Speaker 1: ask you? This AND i just thought about him when
Speaker 1: we start talking music. Again you grew up playing in
Speaker 1: A snoop you football?
Speaker 2: League? Yeah how was that?
Speaker 1: Man Because Long beach just sent a lot of dudes
Speaker 1: to the, league and at least for, Me willie McGinnis
Speaker 1: was one who always made it and was. Bawling but
Speaker 1: he was always President. Polly now all season is he
Speaker 1: coming To?
Speaker 2: Polly he. Retired he was At polly three four days a.
Speaker 1: Week so Between Willie mack And Super how was that
Speaker 1: plan with The snoop you football team with other guys
Speaker 1: that now.
Speaker 2: Are now in the. League, yeah, no that that's.
Speaker 4: That's that's where the competitive nature come. From you, know
Speaker 4: we've been a competing since we was, six, seven eight years,
Speaker 4: old and it was like real, competitive like we lose,
Speaker 4: games we crying after want to fight. One you, know
Speaker 4: they feel like we'd lost the two after a Regular
Speaker 4: Saturday like you know What i'm, saying so, nah but
Speaker 4: but shout out To Snoop, Man shout out To willie
Speaker 4: that they was always there every time they could, be you,
Speaker 4: know because they got a really busy. Schedule but they
Speaker 4: definitely helped out a lot of kids And Loan. Beach
Speaker 4: you know What i'm, saying putting that league in there
Speaker 4: putting the teams, around and you, know some god's take
Speaker 4: advantage of.
Speaker 1: It, Yeah so, one we appreciate you joining us main,
Speaker 1: uh thank.
Speaker 2: You now any of you teams listening the?
Speaker 1: Majority, man y'all got my, number have had the same
Speaker 1: number twenty five. Years that's how old ARE i? Done
Speaker 1: had the same number for twenty five? Years, man y'all call.
Speaker 1: Me i'm gonna get y'all a REAL i ain't gonna
Speaker 1: now one THING i won't.
Speaker 2: DO i don't.
Speaker 1: LIE i ain't gonna lie for. Him BUT i believe
Speaker 1: in this, dude because we all have, lessons and we
Speaker 1: all have, trials and we all have things that we don't.
Speaker 2: Like And darren is a perfect example of.
Speaker 1: That, like had a lot of misfortune early in his
Speaker 1: life in his, career got a second third. Chance, boom
Speaker 1: we're good and, you Mister, jack just made a couple
Speaker 1: bad decisions and they not, like oh my, god what
Speaker 1: was he?
Speaker 2: Doing?
Speaker 1: Passionate sometimes that passion works for us and sometimes it
Speaker 1: works against. Us we gotta channel that the right. Way
Speaker 1: so if y'all don't believe he can do, It i'm
Speaker 1: vouching for. Him he can do it Because i'm gonna,
Speaker 1: be LIKE i said, earlier on his ass like back.
Speaker 2: Pockets oh you're too good of a player to not
Speaker 2: be playing On.
Speaker 1: Sunday but always, remember, man the league don't give a
Speaker 1: fuck if you plan or you ain't. Playing you either
Speaker 1: gone roll with him or you're gonna get your ass rolled.
Speaker 1: Over so just make sure you doing you holding up
Speaker 1: your end of the, market stay out of, trouble take
Speaker 1: care of your, babies take care of, yourself take care
Speaker 1: of your.
Speaker 2: Family and, uh let these teams know they can trust. You,
Speaker 2: noah for. Sure.
Speaker 5: MAN i appreciate, You, MAN i appreciate.
Speaker 1: You all hoving good, Man lady, dog you need, something
Speaker 1: all let me name let you.
Speaker 2: Too all right, there he's bro
Speaker 1: The volume