WEBVTT - Nightcap - Hour 1: NBA Issues With Achilles Injuries + Jack Jones Joins! 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:02.080 The volume. 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:20.120 Well, welcome in to Nightcap. 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:25.200 Now we don't have hen O shall we got TJ 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.120 and Rack wall that's Darren Waller taking over. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:33.400 We hijacking. We have taken over Nightcap. Me and my dog. 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:36.360 So we're gonna be with y'all for the night. Barrett 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:37.720 woo us. Now you know the highlights. 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.640 We're gonna talk sports, We're gonna talk relationships and everything 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.960 in between. I don't know if we'll really get to 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:45.080 the relationships. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:46.080 We may. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.920 I'm a married guy. My dog I believe he's single. 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.000 He was once married. So we were gonna get in everything. 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.080 But with no further ado. I want to introduce uh 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.560 Darren Waller, one of the best tight ends. It's crazy 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:02.880 because his story and how he made it to the league, 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.720 my story and how I made it to the league. 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.360 It's one of a con It's one of a kind. 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:14.160 So tell the people a little bit about yourself, your journey. 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:16.840 You don't have to get too in depth with it 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:22.240 unless you want to. But very very inspirational. Now did 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:26.280 same what Chad? Oh, what Chad and Shannon be doing? 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:31.120 Did this our version of a nightcap? So let's rock out? Yes, sir, no, 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.080 not bus to be here brouh. My name is Darren Waller. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.080 For those of y'all that don't know me, I played 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.000 eight years in the league. I retired just about a 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:38.960 year ago. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.440 I played tight end for Baltimore my first three or 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.880 four years before I got suspended for a year for 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:49.400 drugs alcohol. All that came back into the league, got 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.000 picked up by the Raiders, which is where my career 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:52.760 kind of took off. Had back to back a thousand 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:56.000 yard seasons, made a Pro Bowl, ended up my last 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:57.960 year with the Giants, and. 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.560 Yeah, it's been a fucking a while alright for me. 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.080 Like I said, I was a drug addict, alcoholic, like 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.000 full blown, you know what I'm saying. So I'm blessed 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.600 to be alive, blessed to be you know, if had 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.040 the career that I had and just to be, you know, 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:14.639 thirty two, retired not having to worry about no bread 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:15.440 or nothing like that. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:15.920 I don't know. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:17.840 You got a lot of money. Let him know, I 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.679 got I got that paper. I ain't worried about me. 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:24.480 We are over here, he ain't driven over here. Yeah. Now, now. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.200 This is a perfect day, night, whatever you want to 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:33.160 call it. So you know, my boy, retired because he 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.080 on the bigger and better things and bigger and better things, 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:39.960 and y'all want for everybody that's listening, y'all go get on. 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.680 He gonna tell you what platform or song my boy 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.760 make music? He rapping and he's just so happened to 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.320 be dropping the song today, So y'all make sure y'all 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.200 go stream his music. 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:51.440 Now. 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:55.520 Tell the people how'd you get involved and what made 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:55.960 you say? 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:56.800 Damn? 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.560 This music has become therapeutic to me outside of the 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.600 football around what came, what that? 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:02.480 How that happened? 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.040 Yeah, So the music for me, I feel like it 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:08.320 really started with learning who my great grandfather was. He 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.679 was a legendary jazz pianist, like old people like be 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.919 running up on me like your fast Waller's great grandson. 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.960 And once I really started to learn that, my parents 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.040 had me and my sister playing piano when was real little, 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.079 and I was in like band and shit in middle school, 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.519 and so I really had a passion for music. But 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.720 then it's like football clients started taking off in high 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:28.480 school and college and all that, so I wasn't really 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.440 worried about music for real, And once I got dropped 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.160 to the league, I was bored my rookie year, like 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.800 when we first got to the Sree Rookie camp and 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.720 all that shit you in the hotel, and so I 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.120 was like, fuck it, I'm just gonna start writing. And 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:41.839 I always said I will start and just see where 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.040 it went. So I was twenty fifteen. I've been putting 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.600 out projects probably every couple of years since, and now 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.000 I really feel like I'm really developing in my sound 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.560 and shit for real, Like I really had some songs that, like, 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.320 you know, people really starting to look like like damn, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:56.960 like all right, like I see what you got going on? 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.840 And yeah, so we plugging tonight, cat fucked up. Let 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:02.800 me get on here today. So we plug in this song. Yeah, 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.920 telling the song what platform and they go stream that thing. Yeah, 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:07.360 it's a song called Choose Myself. 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.800 I'm dropping tonight at nine pm Pacific, midnight Eastern. It's 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.960 on Spotify, Apple Music, wherever you stream at search my 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:15.960 name Darren Waller. 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:17.000 It's gonna be there. 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:18.839 It's probably one of the songs I'm most proud of 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.760 that I ever made, or that I ever probably will make. 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.120 So I'm extremely excited for people to listen to. So 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:25.680 go spind that. 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:33.160 So Tighten You is taking place this week. Yeah, how 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:34.279 many times did you attend? 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.400 I think I went to the first two, first two 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.800 or three because I went when it was. 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.839 Just like it was infant stages, just getting going. 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.520 Yeah, it was like fifteen twenty guys. It was guys 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.120 that were like starters on their teams. And then it starts. 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.840 They gotta like they guys getting bigger backing because it 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.360 was it went really well early on, so they have 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.320 more sponsorships. When they started bringing like dudes who are 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:58.560 like a third tight end on they team. 0:04:58.600 --> 0:04:59.840 Like everybody in the league could come. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.520 He just got drafted, you undrafted, free agent like whatever 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.400 you were as a couple, dudes from college, like everybody 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:09.400 could come. So and it was you know, weightlifting, route running, uh, 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.200 you know, kittling and Kelsey nimboys. They get after it too, 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.520 so they got like night activities going on. So it's 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.520 a it's actually a really cool event. They do a 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.720 really good job. They got Greg Olsen is there too, 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.480 so they getting a lot of sponsorship, a lot of money, 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:25.080 bud Light, Bridge Stone, like all these big sponsors putting 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:25.240 it on. 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:26.479 So it's a solid event. 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.520 Is there one thing from your time there that still 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:34.000 stays with you today, that that you got whether it 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:39.800 was from Travis, Greg George, or just any other tight 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.360 end that was there that you still remember that helps 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.159 you on the field and also off the field. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:50.240 I would say just being around, like traving his energy 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.960 and just how he approaches route running and just his craft. 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.560 Like he's real, he's earned the right to be incredibly creative. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.719 Like we see him on TV. He just doing we'd 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:00.800 be like, the fuck is he doing? 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:02.880 But like he's earned the right to do that, and 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.800 he's just like emphasizing like putting your personality into the 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.120 routes that you're running, because a lot of dudes like 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.240 you know, like do trying to make the team like 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.440 whoever it is, they run robotic routes and lines on paper, 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.400 whereas you know somebody like him, you put in your 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.320 own flavor, your own sauce on them routes. Once you 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.760 understand the details of him, it takes that ship to 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.200 a whole another level and you making shit come to 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.040 life that really might not even have been able to 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:26.479 come to life just because of who you are. So 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.279 I took that away and I was like, yeah, you 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:29.800 really just got to like stand on who the fuck 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:30.200 you are? 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:36.560 Like, can we let's get into the real uh nuance 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.279 of route running and coaching in the league. We're gonna 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.880 we're gonna try to keep it a buck here as 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:48.720 you were coming up. And I know for myself, did 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:52.000 y'all type in coach teach you how to be a 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.279 better tight end? Or did he teach you how to 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.920 be a better football player? And now I know those 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:02.960 things are married like, but running arounds and getting open? 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.680 Did you learn that on your own other players, on 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:09.159 your coach, Because I'm gonna give you. 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.600 My opinion, so for me, yeah, so I grew up, 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.600 so you gotta understand. Like I started playing offense in 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.000 college at Georgia Tech. We were in a triple option, 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.680 so we was blocking like eighty percent of the time. 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:22.520 For real, I was an hour on a go A 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.000 hits a post or something or they would be like 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.480 like a play action crack post or something like that. 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.480 But we weren't really getting that kind of route running 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.760 teaching and technique there because I mean that's just what 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.600 they was asking us to do. I got to Baltimore, 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.040 I feel like my rookie year, my coach was Bobby Ingram. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.080 He played in the league for like a decade. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Seattle. 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.120 I felt like he was giving us some game my 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:47.760 rookie year. But then my second year they moved me 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:49.320 to tight end, and it was like at the end 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:50.760 of my rookiear, They're like, yeah, when you get back, 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.120 we think we're gonna try you at tight end. 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.640 So I was like that they ain't even tell me 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:56.760 nothing for real. I just got on. 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:58.560 YouTube and it was just like, man, let me see 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:00.600 what that was back when zack Ers was getting like 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.560 one hundred twenty catches a year, Travis kelse greg Osen, 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:09.440 I was watching Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates like Jimmy Graham. 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:10.840 I was just on YouTube. 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:12.840 I was like, I'm just gonna do what they doing, 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.000 like and my tight end coach like he was an 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.160 old lineman in the league for a bit. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.200 Happens all the time. Bro. That's where I'm trying to 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.760 go with this. It's like when. 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.400 People think the NFL it's like the best of the best, 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:35.200 best coaches, best players, but very rarely is a coach 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:39.280 your position coach gonna get you better at your craft. 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.440 You gotta do that on your own. No, that's facts. 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.320 I look at teams now and you talk about like team, 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.079 they like to talk about all the teams got to 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.560 develop this player. It might be like maybe five teams 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.600 that have people, if that that have people that can 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.720 actually develop a player. They begging and hoping that you 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.240 come in with with skills. 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:57.960 And ready to go. Yes. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:03.000 Yeah, like, and I think people don't realize that you 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:04.280 get better on your own. 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:05.840 Now. They will teach you football. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:10.479 You'll understand the game from a nexus and those perspective 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.520 a lot better. But you know, they're gonna give you 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.280 little technique things here and there, and if it works, 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:17.360 they get all the credit. 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.480 If it don't work, you suck. If it don't work, 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:21.280 you suck. And you know. 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.319 And so I tell off because I trained a lot 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.839 of guys for the combine receivers and tight ends, and. 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.600 I'm telling them, like, when you get to your team, it's. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:34.080 Not all the time, but ninety percent of the time, 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:36.800 your coach ain't gonna tell you how to get open. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.760 He don't know, because if you're a receiver, you're a 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:41.360 tight end. Your coaches are all life. And what the 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.520 fuck he know about running a route? He don't watch 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.720 somebody run around it like, and so that part of 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:52.959 it is, at least with the NFL people, you really 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:57.280 have to invest in yourself away from the facility and 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.680 away from the team, and if you don't do that, 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.559 your career short lived. And luckily for you, you're able 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.840 to get on YouTube and see what the best you're 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.920 doing and translate it. Because some people get on YouTube, 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.880 watch them and get out there. Still fuck it up. 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:13.560 They still gonna get out there and mess it up 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.200 because they mine. They just they can't do it. So 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:20.160 that that part of it not many people know about 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:24.120 the league is get better on your own, or watch 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:25.800 everybody else play be watching. 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.480 Team, I'm better than him. He couldn't fuck with be. 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:33.120 Oh yeah, but that, and I think that's pretty much 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.959 league wide at every position. I would say the old 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:40.520 line probably get developed the most. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.560 The coaches really make them better. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.640 Outside of that, unless you got a Eric Yarboro with 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:53.839 the Rams, Keenan mccardal with the Vikings, Sean Jefferson. I 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.559 don't even know where Sean at now. But if you 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:00.760 don't have one of them coaches, you in trouble. And 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.880 if it's a receiver coach that I left you out, 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:04.880 I left you out because you don't know what you're doing. 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.600 Take you personally, Yeah. 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:09.920 Yeah, you got to get your bag deeper on your own. 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.360 Like for the young pole that's watching, like you got 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.480 to take into account. You gotta find you somebody you 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.680 can work with in the off season, like ask the 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:17.520 vest that's around you. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:18.400 Just really get into it. 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.199 I guarantee you they got somebody like you really got 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:22.719 to invest the nation on your own. 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.000 And that's why when I brought up tight End You 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:30.480 with we're getting better amongst our peers. Me and Chad 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.640 have talked about doing the receiver aspect of tight End You. 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.920 They kind of you know, y'all was our inspiration on 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.720 doing that. We're gonna see where that go. Now let's 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.160 get into Uh it's a couple of days old. But man, 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.360 I'm sure you're an athlete. You watch a lot of NBA. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.480 Huh. Yeah. What were your thoughts? One? 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:53.040 It was a great series, Yeah, but it was the 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.440 least watch series in however many seven game series. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.319 First seven game series I believe in nine to ten years. 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.000 But people weren't tuned in because it was an Indiana 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:04.959 Pacer team and an Oklahoma City team. 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:09.080 Small markets thought on the series. 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:15.480 I believe if Holler Burn don't go down, Indiana may 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:19.199 win that. And I'm going in really different tangents here. 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:24.560 But the NBA, they gotta figure this Achilles injury out. Bro, Like, 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:26.960 I don't know what's going on with these dude, Like 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.439 so many of them are tearner as a kid. Is 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.040 the lack of strength? Is it a lack of mobility? 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.240 Is it too many games? Is it too many games 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.880 at a young age and aau and the wearing's hair. 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:43.600 It's so many variables and a lot to unpack. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.920 So let's go yeah, man, I mean shoot, starting with 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.520 the series, yeah, I mean I feel like people put 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.680 so much stress on the markets and I guess the 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.920 average person that's tuning in wants to see a la 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.680 in a Boston or New York and whatever. But you 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.120 look at those two teams and you look at the 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.920 series that we like, that's that's ball being played at 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.800 its highest level. You look at the depth on both teams, 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:07.719 like the character on both teams. You got so many 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:09.839 dudes that are like fine tuned in perfect for their 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:10.960 individual roles. 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.480 Like it just creates that back and forth. I want 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:14.360 to see shit go seven. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.480 I want to see Wars like you know what I'm saying, 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:20.040 that's what that's what we got. And with Haliburn going down, 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.120 like he was cooking in that first quarter in that 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.319 game seven, So it's like that game definitely would have 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.040 been completely different at least down to the wire in 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.680 my eyes. So probably you could make an impact for 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.080 a PACER's win. But yeah, Haliburton going down, and it's 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.439 like you got guys going out there with the calf injury. 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.480 When that calf locks up and you're trying to load 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:41.360 up on that back leg, the calf's biomechanically, that calf 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:42.600 is taking a lot of that force. 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:46.760 You have many major injuries when you played, Like nah, 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:47.480 not lower body. 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.760 I had a torn label on my shoulder, but I 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.400 just rehab that, had an off season kay the final 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.320 month with it. But yeah, no major injuries for me 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.840 for real. But that achilles motherfucker is crazy. Like I 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.360 was around with Steve Smith Senior toward his achilles and 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.080 he was trying to rehabit, and it's like one calf 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.640 was humongous and the other calf was like like it 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.440 was like non existent for a while, and just like 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.120 the work he had to put in US. He's been 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.120 watching toward his achilles too, so it's like that's a 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:13.000 that's a major major, that's. 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:23.520 Like damn near twelve months. Yeah, I don't know. 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.040 When you look at Damian Littler, Okay, he's a little older, 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:32.120 Jason Taylums young Halliburton's young KD tore his at in 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.800 the dance age. So but shit, KD came back like 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.120 it wasn't shit still balling. They just got to figure 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:38.400 that out. 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:38.800 I don't know. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.560 I don't know what it is. If it's strength, mobility, 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:47.400 I don't know. But for how La Burton, it sucks 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.200 because boy was cooking three threes in the first quarter 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.520 nine points. I'm like, oh shit, and I picked I 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.840 had I picked Oklahoma City to win it, but I 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.040 found myself rooting for Indiana. It was kind of weird. 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:04.040 H But yeah, man prayers twin. I hope he recovers. 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:07.680 He's probably gonna miss the entirety of next season because 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:12.080 it happens so late in the season. But you think, 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:16.160 Oklahoma City, do you think this is a start of 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:20.560 a dynasty? Considering Alex Caruso is their oldest player at 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:21.400 thirty one. 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.360 Right, Yeah, I think He just gave like a great 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.400 detail of just like how young the nucleus of that 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:30.600 team is. And you look at young teams, you think 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.920 like they could be flashy in a lot of areas, 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:34.440 but there might be like some giant holes. 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.640 They don't have really any holes for real. 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.880 To the best defensive team in the league, they got 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:44.520 Shaye League MVP J dubb as your number two score. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.280 He's taken over a couple games in the finals. Check 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.280 Holmgren my D twenty every now and then. He's a 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:53.240 rim protector. You got Heart and Stein setting screens, protecting 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.320 the rim, catching putbacks and oops and whatnot. You got 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.800 Caruso lead and playing defense. Blue dors a lot down 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.520 the fens like you got from off the bench. Isaiah 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.240 Joe led the team in three point percentag during the season. 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.200 It's like, you have so many roles that are covered 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.280 on that team. It's like, but I mean, that Western 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.960 Conference is a motherfucker and teams are gonna be coming. 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.000 So it's a. 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:18.560 One team particular down in Texas. Actually two, actually damn three. 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.240 The Rocket's gonna be better with KD. They gonna be 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:26.080 a fucking problem. Yeah, they gonna be a problem. They 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:30.800 got their closer now in KD. When Kyrie come back 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.000 with the Mavericks, that gonna be a problem. And if 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:36.120 Cooper flag, if he can acclimate himself to the INNdiA 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:40.320 game a d Cooper flag. They just resigned Gafford, and 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.080 then when Kyrie come they gonna be a problem. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:48.280 And then you got weinbyfaun. 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:50.600 Castle the second pick, which probably is gonna be Dylan Harper. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:52.560 They't gonna be a problem. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.120 I'm a Laker fan, so we damn show gonna be 0:16:55.160 --> 0:17:00.000 a problem at least speakers cross playing. I hope we're 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.240 the Western Conference is gonna be a blood bath. Go 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.640 to State as long as Steph and Draymond there, yeh, 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:09.919 they gonna all they gonna be a problem. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:10.440 It's so. 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.000 A dynasty when people start throwing that word out there. 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:20.119 I don't know, Denver with Yolkich and Jamal Murray they 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:24.720 coming back, It just it's so much that has to 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.360 take place for you to be a dynasty. 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.640 But they so young that it's like, damn, I don't 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:30.359 see why not. 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:34.800 Shay gonna put up twenty eight to thirty two average 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:39.440 every season as long as he's healthy. Can Chet Hongren 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.359 Can he take the next step? Can he take the 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:47.360 next step offensively, defensively? He gonna give you a rem protector. 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.440 He moves his feet very well to be a big guy. 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:50.400 And he's real thing. 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:50.879 But he not. 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.720 He not a punk like you got just dogging out 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:59.480 like that, Like he looks like he can be dogged out. Nah, 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.639 it's because he's so thin. You like, mamma, take his 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.480 low ass down. You got dogging cheed holmegren out. And 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:10.560 so from that perspective, they everybody has an opportunity and 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.359 a chance to be that. I don't see it taking place. 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:20.440 I just with the Rockets, bro, everybody stay healthy. I 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:22.400 don't know how they lose. If you put a lineup 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:28.800 of Van Fleet's point guard KD six eleven, Jabari Smith six', 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:37.400 Teen sengoon six, eleven and who else Wes Amir, thompson 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.439 there we go six. Seven she gonna do with that 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:45.760 lineup and coming off the. Bench this is the crazy 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:47.840 part with The rockets that not many people talk. 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:49.800 About, one two. 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:54.040 Three the third pick of the draft last, Year Reed 0:18:54.119 --> 0:19:00.520 shepherd got no burn the third, pick Cam more he 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.800 comes to The. Lakers he, played he getting big minutes 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:06.520 with me gott no burn and SO i look at 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:10.640 The rockets, Like i'm, impressed and if they can stay, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:16.840 healthy now can kd? Uh and he, said it is 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:21.000 not my responsibility to lead and to a certain, degree 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:22.760 and this is WHAT i don't like about, Sports and 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.080 we can tap into this. Too why is it that 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:29.000 when you're the best, player that expects you to always 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:33.199 be the? Leader sometimes the best player isn't that he 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.840 don't have that leadership type of personality That god's ain't following. 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.879 Him, YEAH i think when he SAYS i it's not 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:41.639 my job to, LEAD i think he's saying it's not 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.000 my job to lead in the traditional way that you 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.439 think somebody's supposed to be a. Leader like as far 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.640 as being like A Ray lewis type of, lead there's 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.719