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Speaker 2: Well, welcome in to Nightcap.

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Speaker 1: Now we don't have hen O shall we got TJ

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Speaker 1: and Rack wall that's Darren Waller taking over.

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Speaker 2: We hijacking. We have taken over Nightcap. Me and my dog.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna be with y'all for the night. Barrett

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Speaker 2: woo us. Now you know the highlights.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk sports, We're gonna talk relationships and everything

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Speaker 1: in between. I don't know if we'll really get to

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Speaker 1: the relationships.

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Speaker 2: We may.

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Speaker 1: I'm a married guy. My dog I believe he's single.

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Speaker 1: He was once married. So we were gonna get in everything.

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Speaker 1: But with no further ado. I want to introduce uh

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Speaker 1: Darren Waller, one of the best tight ends. It's crazy

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Speaker 1: because his story and how he made it to the league,

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Speaker 1: my story and how I made it to the league.

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Speaker 2: It's one of a con It's one of a kind.

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Speaker 1: So tell the people a little bit about yourself, your journey.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to get too in depth with it

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Speaker 1: unless you want to. But very very inspirational. Now did

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Speaker 1: same what Chad? Oh, what Chad and Shannon be doing?

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Speaker 1: Did this our version of a nightcap? So let's rock out? Yes, sir, no,

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Speaker 1: not bus to be here brouh. My name is Darren Waller.

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Speaker 1: For those of y'all that don't know me, I played

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Speaker 1: eight years in the league. I retired just about a

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Speaker 3: I played tight end for Baltimore my first three or

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Speaker 3: four years before I got suspended for a year for

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Speaker 3: picked up by the Raiders, which is where my career

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a fucking a while alright for me.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I was a drug addict, alcoholic, like

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Speaker 3: full blown, you know what I'm saying. So I'm blessed

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Speaker 3: to be alive, blessed to be you know, if had

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Speaker 3: or nothing like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You got a lot of money. Let him know, I

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Speaker 1: got I got that paper. I ain't worried about me.

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Speaker 2: We are over here, he ain't driven over here. Yeah. Now, now.

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Speaker 1: This is a perfect day, night, whatever you want to

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Speaker 1: call it. So you know, my boy, retired because he

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Speaker 1: on the bigger and better things and bigger and better things,

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Speaker 1: and y'all want for everybody that's listening, y'all go get on.

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Speaker 1: He gonna tell you what platform or song my boy

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Speaker 1: make music? He rapping and he's just so happened to

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Speaker 1: be dropping the song today, So y'all make sure y'all

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Speaker 1: go stream his music.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Tell the people how'd you get involved and what made

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Speaker 2: Damn?

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Speaker 1: This music has become therapeutic to me outside of the

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Speaker 1: football around what came, what that?

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Speaker 2: How that happened?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the music for me, I feel like it

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Speaker 3: really started with learning who my great grandfather was. He

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Speaker 3: was a legendary jazz pianist, like old people like be

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Speaker 3: And once I really started to learn that, my parents

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Speaker 2: And yeah, so we plugging tonight, cat fucked up. Let

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Speaker 2: it's a song called Choose Myself.

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Speaker 3: I'm dropping tonight at nine pm Pacific, midnight Eastern. It's

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Speaker 3: on Spotify, Apple Music, wherever you stream at search my

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Speaker 3: It's probably one of the songs I'm most proud of

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Speaker 1: So Tighten You is taking place this week. Yeah, how

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Speaker 2: Like everybody in the league could come.

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Speaker 3: I would say just being around, like traving his energy

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Speaker 3: Like he's real, he's earned the right to be incredibly creative.

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Speaker 2: Like we see him on TV. He just doing we'd

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Speaker 3: I took that away and I was like, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: Like, can we let's get into the real uh nuance

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Speaker 1: you were coming up. And I know for myself, did

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Speaker 3: My opinion, so for me, yeah, so I grew up,

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Speaker 3: But we weren't really getting that kind of route running

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Speaker 3: I feel like my rookie year, my coach was Bobby Ingram.

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Speaker 2: So I was like that they ain't even tell me

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm just gonna do what they doing,

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Speaker 1: People think the NFL it's like the best of the best,

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Speaker 1: You gotta do that on your own. No, that's facts.

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Speaker 3: I look at teams now and you talk about like team,

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Speaker 2: And ready to go. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, and I think people don't realize that you

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Speaker 2: Now. They will teach you football.

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Speaker 1: You'll understand the game from a nexus and those perspective

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Speaker 2: If it don't work, you suck. If it don't work,

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Speaker 1: And so I tell off because I trained a lot

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Speaker 2: I'm telling them, like, when you get to your team, it's.

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Speaker 1: Not all the time, but ninety percent of the time,

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Speaker 1: your coach ain't gonna tell you how to get open.

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Speaker 1: He don't know, because if you're a receiver, you're a

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Speaker 1: tight end. Your coaches are all life. And what the

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Speaker 1: fuck he know about running a route? He don't watch

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Speaker 1: somebody run around it like, and so that part of

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but that, and I think that's pretty much

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Speaker 2: The coaches really make them better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to get your bag deeper on your own.

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Speaker 2: Just really get into it.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you they got somebody like you really got

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Speaker 1: And that's why when I brought up tight End You

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Speaker 1: get into Uh it's a couple of days old. But man,

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Speaker 2: Huh. Yeah. What were your thoughts? One?

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Speaker 1: It was a great series, Yeah, but it was the

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Speaker 1: But people weren't tuned in because it was an Indiana

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Speaker 1: I believe if Holler Burn don't go down, Indiana may

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Speaker 3: its highest level. You look at the depth on both teams,

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Speaker 2: Like it just creates that back and forth. I want

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Speaker 3: I want to see Wars like you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: that's what that's what we got. And with Haliburn going down,

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Speaker 3: game seven, So it's like that game definitely would have

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Speaker 3: a PACER's win. But yeah, Haliburton going down, and it's

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Speaker 3: I had a torn label on my shoulder, but I

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Speaker 3: for real. But that achilles motherfucker is crazy. Like I

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Speaker 2: Like damn near twelve months. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: When you look at Damian Littler, Okay, he's a little older,

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Speaker 1: Jason Taylums young Halliburton's young KD tore his at in

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Speaker 1: it wasn't shit still balling. They just got to figure

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. If it's strength, mobility,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. But for how La Burton, it sucks

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Speaker 1: had I picked Oklahoma City to win it, but I

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Speaker 1: H But yeah, man prayers twin. I hope he recovers.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I think He just gave like a great

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Speaker 3: detail of just like how young the nucleus of that

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Speaker 2: They don't have really any holes for real.

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Speaker 3: To the best defensive team in the league, they got

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Speaker 3: Shaye League MVP J dubb as your number two score.

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Speaker 3: He's taken over a couple games in the finals. Check

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Speaker 3: Holmgren my D twenty every now and then. He's a

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Speaker 3: Caruso lead and playing defense. Blue dors a lot down

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Speaker 3: the fens like you got from off the bench. Isaiah

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Speaker 3: Joe led the team in three point percentag during the season.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you have so many roles that are covered

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Speaker 3: on that team. It's like, but I mean, that Western

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Speaker 3: Conference is a motherfucker and teams are gonna be coming.

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Speaker 2: So it's a.

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Speaker 1: One team particular down in Texas. Actually two, actually damn three.

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Speaker 1: The Rocket's gonna be better with KD. They gonna be

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Speaker 1: a fucking problem. Yeah, they gonna be a problem. They

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Speaker 1: got their closer now in KD. When Kyrie come back

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Speaker 2: And then you got weinbyfaun.

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Speaker 1: Castle the second pick, which probably is gonna be Dylan Harper.

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Speaker 2: They't gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Laker fan, so we damn show gonna be

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Speaker 1: a problem at least speakers cross playing. I hope we're

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Speaker 1: the Western Conference is gonna be a blood bath. Go

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Speaker 1: to State as long as Steph and Draymond there, yeh,

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Speaker 1: they gonna all they gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 2: It's so.

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Speaker 1: A dynasty when people start throwing that word out there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Denver with Yolkich and Jamal Murray they

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Speaker 1: coming back, It just it's so much that has to

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Speaker 2: But they so young that it's like, damn, I don't

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Speaker 1: Shay gonna put up twenty eight to thirty two average

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Speaker 1: every season as long as he's healthy. Can Chet Hongren

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Speaker 1: Can he take the next step? Can he take the

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Speaker 1: next step offensively, defensively? He gonna give you a rem protector.

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Speaker 1: He moves his feet very well to be a big guy.

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Speaker 1: And he's real thing.

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Speaker 2: But he not.

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Speaker 1: He not a punk like you got just dogging out

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Speaker 1: like that, Like he looks like he can be dogged out. Nah,

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Speaker 1: it's because he's so thin. You like, mamma, take his

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Speaker 1: low ass down. You got dogging cheed holmegren out. And

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Speaker 1: so from that perspective, they everybody has an opportunity and

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Speaker 1: a chance to be that. I don't see it taking place.

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Speaker 1: I just with the Rockets, bro, everybody stay healthy. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how they lose. If you put a lineup

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Speaker 1: of Van Fleet's point guard KD six eleven, Jabari Smith six',

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Speaker 1: Teen sengoon six, eleven and who else Wes Amir, thompson

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Speaker 1: there we go six. Seven she gonna do with that

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Speaker 1: lineup and coming off the. Bench this is the crazy

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Speaker 1: part with The rockets that not many people talk.

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Speaker 2: About, one two.

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Speaker 1: Three the third pick of the draft last, Year Reed

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Speaker 1: The rockets, Like i'm, impressed and if they can stay,

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Speaker 1: healthy now can kd? Uh and he, said it is

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Speaker 1: not my responsibility to lead and to a certain, degree

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Speaker 1: and this is WHAT i don't like about, Sports and

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Speaker 1: we can tap into this. Too why is it that

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Speaker 1: when you're the best, player that expects you to always

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Speaker 1: be the? Leader sometimes the best player isn't that he

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Speaker 1: don't have that leadership type of personality That god's ain't following.

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Speaker 3: Him, YEAH i think when he SAYS i it's not

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Speaker 3: my job to, LEAD i think he's saying it's not

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Speaker 3: Example LIKE i think the biggest Jumped rockets can take

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Speaker 3: is like you get an Amen thompson attached To kd's

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Speaker 3: And thompson devotes a jump shot that one might be

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Speaker 3: a LEAGUE mvp at some, point you know What i'm. Saying,

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Speaker 3: so but, YEAH i think there's so many different leadership

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Speaker 2: Sports i'm one of.

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Speaker 3: THEM i always thought, like, damn LIKE i can't be

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Speaker 3: Chest i'm, like AM i really like a leader If

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Speaker 3: i'm not giving the pregame speech and having everybody ready

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Speaker 3: dude that's like the. Wolf the wolf leads from the

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Speaker 3: back of the. Pack it's like we're not. Letting IF

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Speaker 3: i see somebody, SLIPPING i see somebody's confidence, Dropping i'm

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Speaker 3: gonna be the first one over there to, them telling

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Speaker 3: them who they really, are telling them remember who they,

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Speaker 3: are and like keeping their, mind keeping their chest, up

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Speaker 3: you know What i'm. Saying so that's more the leadership

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Speaker 3: STYLE i. HAVE i think THAT'S kd as. Well but, like,

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Speaker 3: yeah you don't got to be that, raw, raw pregame

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Speaker 3: punch a hole in the wall guy to be a.

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Speaker 2: Leader were you? Were?

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Speaker 1: You obviously from gathering what you're, saying you wasn't a,

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Speaker 3: Game, Nah i'm more So i'm talking LIKE i am right,

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Speaker 3: Now like you can you can.

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Speaker 2: Feel like did you talk shit to the defense during the.

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Speaker 2: Game it took a lot for me to talk shit to.

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Speaker 1: A lot different, Then LIKE i was not Raw rob

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Speaker 1: like don't come, here you know how you're getting a

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00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: huddle on everybody walking up fucking. Head But i'm, Like,

437
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: bro don't handle, me not had, Buddy i'm not jumping

438
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 1: up in the pile before the.

439
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 2: Game i'm. Not i've never did you? Ever have you ever?

440
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 3: DONE i never did that one time activity, Bro, BRO

441
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: i never did.

442
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 2: It one time in my.

443
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 1: CAREER i don't know what that ship is, like but

444
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: guys used to do that all the, time so that

445
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: that wasn't.

446
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: Me but.

447
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: When the game, STARTED i don't know what happened to, Me,

448
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: Bro LIKE i would just go, Crazy LIKE i would

449
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 1: talk shit to the. RESTS i would talk ship to

450
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: the other, team LIKE i would. LISTEN i would listen

451
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: to a lot of J zy before the, game and

452
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: then right BEFORE i came, OUT i would turn On,

453
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: Uh it's in the, air THE dmx Version Phil, collins

454
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: the damn ex version of, that AND i don't know

455
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: what it, Was. BRO i would just like IF i

456
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: was playing, TODAY i would get thrown out BECAUSE i

457
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,239
Speaker 1: would go after rest so, much but back, then Like

458
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 1: i'll never forget one.

459
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 2: Line, judge he called a penalty on.

460
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: One of our linemen AND i looked up at the

461
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: jumbo tron AND i didn't think it was. Hold SO

462
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: i said something to. Him this motherfucker was like fuck,

463
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: YOU tj the. RAT i was like fuck and so

464
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: we was just going at. It ten minutes later he

465
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: came up to. Me were, GOOD i, said, yeah, yeah we.

466
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: Good today's, Game i'm getting thrown. Out i'm getting thrown

467
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: out and so that that to. Me but and a

468
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 1: lot of my teammates would tell you, LIKE i let,

469
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: him AND i didn't choose to be a. Leader as

470
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 1: you can, See i'm a. TALKER i like to, talk

471
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: and so guys, Like i'm gonna lead by. Example IF

472
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: i feel you not working, Hard i'm not calling you

473
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: out front, Everybody i'm gonna come put my arm around,

474
00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: you be, like.

475
00:22:59,000 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 2: Bro.

476
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: We all dream to get, here and now you acting

477
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: like it don't, matter because if you weren't, here.

478
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 2: You would be.

479
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: Upset but you taken being here for, granted and so uh, yeah,

480
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: man that that leadership. PART i don't believe it always

481
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: has to be the. Quarterback it it always has to

482
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: be the best.

483
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 3: Player jack, described what you just described is, leadership like

484
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 3: we have a picture what we think it is is

485
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 3: like in the middle of the, huddle pregame.

486
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: Speech but what you just described is real.

487
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: Leadership how you bring somebody to the, side and that's

488
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 3: WHAT i would bring the truth to, Them like that's.

489
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: Leadership but, Love Look, Jack, jack can you hear? Me?

490
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: YEAH i can hear. You hear, me my.

491
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: Dog, Look so that's partner's perfect. Segue just so y'all

492
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: know This Jack.

493
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: Jones THIS i know, him Miss.

494
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: Jack jack been knowing this boy since he was, fourteen

495
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: seeing go from A i guess a little boy to

496
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: a young man to a grown man with. CHILDREN i

497
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: love this boy like you my son for, real like

498
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: your family. Member, man could you hear the? Conversation that's

499
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: miss That's Darren. Waller you know who that, is, Right.

500
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 2: YEAH i know what that.

501
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: Is if you, didn't he would have most your little.

502
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: Ass jacky out your. Mind let me let me bring

503
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: you into this conversation about. Leadership what's your take on

504
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: leadership as far as the best, player the coaching staff

505
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: wants him to be the leader as supposed to just

506
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,479
Speaker 1: the locker room determines who the leader, is whether it's

507
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,719
Speaker 1: the best player or, not or the, quarterback whoever it may.

508
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: BE i think the.

509
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 4: Leader is based on which we do every day in the.

510
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 4: Consistency you know What i'm. Saying you don't get that

511
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 4: leader role because you're the best, player because you're in

512
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 4: a certain. Position you get that leader role because the

513
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 4: work you put in and how you lead the, team

514
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 4: and how you get the guys to rally a log

515
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 4: and how you get guys fired. Up you, know it's

516
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 4: a lot of things to go with. That BUT i

517
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 4: don't think it's position position.

518
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: BASE i don't think.

519
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: That all, Right so we're gonna we're gonna talk about,

520
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: you and we're gonna bring the people into.

521
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: Your.

522
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: Story So i'm gonna let him tell a bit of.

523
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: It But Jack jack grew up born and Raised Long, Beach. California,

524
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: yeah google, ahead Google Long beach if y'all not familiar with.

525
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: It his family is well known in The Lone beach

526
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: in the city Of Loan. Beach from WHAT i was

527
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: told back in the, day it's two families that Run Long.

528
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: Beach Honda jones is in what The. Calhouns that's WHAT

529
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: i was. Told jones is in The. Calhouns But jack

530
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: Jack man in high school unbelievable on both sides of the,

531
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: ball defense and.

532
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 2: Offense AND i tell people this all the.

533
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: Time And i'm not just saying this because you're, here

534
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: because you KNOW i wouldn't sugar coat.

535
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: Nothing this, boy when he was a, boy used to.

536
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: Practice SO i never seen a kid in high school

537
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: practice as hard as. You AND i Think i've told

538
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: you this's plenty of. Time like we, Said, Jack, jack slow.

539
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: Down i've never seen a kid this young practice that

540
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: hard in love football the way that you loved it

541
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: in high school like it was. It we gotta Tell,

542
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: god come, on, bro go, Harder, Jack, jack get out the.

543
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 2: Shrip, no you slow.

544
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: Down he was like that at fourteen years, old genuinely loved.

545
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: Football he done had some mishaps in the. League AND

546
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: i get on the phone with him And i'm, Like,

547
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 1: jack come on.

548
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: Your.

549
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: SITUATION i believe you one of the best players in

550
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: the league that's not in the league that should be

551
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: in the. League because you was in the, league you'd

552
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: be starting on at least twenty eight of the thirty two.

553
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: Teams we know That i'm a vouch foring for any

554
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: team that's listening to. This we don't have conversations heat,

555
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: conversations but the last three weeks probably just making sure.

556
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: You got your shit. Straight your.

557
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: Father you have matured and we all mature at different

558
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: rates at different, times and they can't expect you to

559
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: mature on a. Timeline you're gonna mature on your. Time

560
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: with that being, said kind of take.

561
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: Us through going From New england to The.

562
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: Raiders you finally get a coach that believed in, you

563
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: that same coach that was with us At Long, beach

564
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: probably in Ap Antonio pears and where you are now

565
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: and what you're look into accomplish moving, FORWARD.

566
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 2: I, mean just a whole.

567
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 4: Situation it was a it was a, blessing man humbling.

568
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: Experience you. Know that's ALL i got to, say and.

569
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 4: That i'm blessed the evering to play with ap you,

570
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 4: know a high school, coach a god who over. Me

571
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 4: you know pretty much you know a lot of part

572
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 4: of a lot of my. Life so you know that's a.

573
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 4: BLESSING i don't take that for. Granted but looking, forward,

574
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 4: MAN i JUST i just look forward to you, know

575
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 4: getting another opportunity and really proving, myself, man just really

576
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 4: proving That i've grown And i've learned that the mistakes

577
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 4: THAT i made is they already, made you know What i'm.

578
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 4: Saying AND i don't want to keep making those, mistakes

579
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 4: you know What i'm. SAYING i don't want to be

580
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 4: one of those guys looked at it as like a

581
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 4: bad kid or a bad, man or somebody who's uncoachable

582
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: or somebody who who who who doesn't fit in. PROGRAMS

583
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 4: i want to be that guy that fits their every.

584
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 4: PROGRAM i want to be a story in my. Role

585
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 4: like you know What i'm. Saying it's just LIKE i

586
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 4: have to go through them times to learn and to.

587
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 4: Understand it's LIKE i went through those songs And i'm

588
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 4: just ready for the next, opportunity just to prove myself

589
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: for you, know take full advantage.

590
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: Of, it no. Doubt.

591
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: JACK i want to ask you a question BECAUSE i

592
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: didn't even for your rookie years twenty.

593
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: Two, right oh, yeah.

594
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah SO i was on The raiders in twenty two

595
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: and you was on The patriots AND i was out of.

596
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: PRACTICE i had an.

597
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: INJURY i remember one day we came into the meeting

598
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: post practice into an offensive, meeting and everybody was, like,

599
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: man it's this rookie out there that's that's talking, crazy

600
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: that's trying to. Kay like you think like there's a

601
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: lot of vets in the league that are not trying

602
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: to step to tay and here you are as a

603
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: rookie like out there training, Camp like what's, like what's

604
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: up like trying to compete with the best receiver in the.

605
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: League you know What i'm, Saying, like where does that come?

606
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: From like and tell the people like the type of

607
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: eds that it, takes especially as a corner and somebody

608
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: that's like really out there shutting shit.

609
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: Down like you can't just be out.

610
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: There, tommy like hoping you could run with, You like

611
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: you really got to step out there knowing who you

612
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: are and what you bring to the.

613
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: Table so like is that can that be? Taught is?

614
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: That do? You are you born with? That like speak to? That?

615
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 4: UH i MEAN i feel like you built that through

616
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 4: through the work you put. In, Man, Honestly like like

617
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 4: WHAT tj, SAID i was a guy in high school

618
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 4: who played in so much, work SO i just felt

619
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 4: like nobody worked harder than. Me you wasn't gonna outwork.

620
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 4: ME i feel like EVERYTHING i, DID i was gonna

621
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: do it. Better you know What i'm saying that if

622
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 4: you if you beat me this, rep that was just that.

623
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 5: Rep i'm anna win the whole battle, through you.

624
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: Know What i'm.

625
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 4: Saying and so WHEN i the marster THAT i had

626
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 4: going up against, say it was just, Like i'm not

627
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 4: here to to put my.

628
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: Toe in the. Water you know What i'm. Saying i'm

629
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: trying to go in head.

630
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 4: First i'm trying to go in and guard the best

631
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 4: receivers week in and week. Out that's What that's WHAT

632
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 4: i wanted to, do you know What i'm saying, That

633
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: AND i believe in my abilities AND i BELIEVE i

634
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 4: could do that AND i will do.

635
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 5: That and WHEN i give my, Opportunity i'm approve.

636
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: That, yeah moving. Forward Jack jones the.

637
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: Person if you're a general, manager you a head, coach

638
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: why should they feel comfortable signing you on your roster

639
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: on their roster.

640
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: Feeling like you may be a?

641
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: Liability what would you tell them if they ask you

642
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: THAT i mean a?

643
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: Liability and which ways do you know off the? Field

644
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: personal on the.

645
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: FIELD i don't believe anybody has any questions on the,

646
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: Field Jack jones a.

647
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: Baller to, me everything is off the. FIELD i know your,

648
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: CHARACTER i know who you.

649
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: ARE i know the environment you grew up, in and

650
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: that environment is it's me or.

651
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: You i'd rather you than me and deal with the.

652
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: Consequences but as we, mature are that ain't always the right.

653
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: Way and you've learned that and you're still learning, That,

654
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: Jack jack the, person not the, player BECAUSE i don't

655
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: believe there's any question when it pertains to the, player

656
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: it's the.

657
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: Person i've.

658
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 5: Grown, Man i'm not that same young MAN i used to.

659
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: Be you know What i'm.

660
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 4: SAYING i got, KIDS i GOT i got my babies

661
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 4: depending on.

662
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: Me you know What i'm.

663
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 4: SAYING i can't just go out here and make the

664
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: same mistakes or the same DECISIONS i used to.

665
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 5: Make when WHEN i was young without, kids.

666
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: You know What i'm.

667
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: Saying SO i just kind of feel like my, babies,

668
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: man they just they just they weighing on me a lot.

669
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 4: More you, Know i'm spending a lot more time with,

670
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: them and it's just like it just means a lot

671
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: more to, me you know What i'm. Saying you, KNOW

672
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: i already love the. Game so just the fact That

673
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: i'm not on the team AND i can't, say, like,

674
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 4: Yes i'm in THE nfl right now currently, today and

675
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 4: like it crushes.

676
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: Me it, hurts like you know What i'm, saying BECAUSE

677
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: i love.

678
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 5: Ball but but, man it's my.

679
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: Babies, Man i'm a change, man AND i feel like

680
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: everybody around me can see, that and you just have

681
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 4: to get around me to see.

682
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: That, no for, real, shit you, talk you're talking to

683
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: somebody that.

684
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: Man like where people at one point in time in

685
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: my career try to define me by my character at

686
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: a certain place point or take a snapshot of who

687
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: they thought THAT i. Was but that never that was

688
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,239
Speaker 3: not the end narrative of my. Story after that there,

689
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: was it Was Pro. Bowls it was the best years

690
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: of my. Career, me you know What i'm, saying having

691
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: A ce on my chest and people like really respectuh

692
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: WHAT i brought to the table because that who was

693
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 3: the true?

694
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: Meat that was the real.

695
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: Meat SO i understand what it's like to go through

696
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: shit and you, know react in certain ways or whatever

697
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: it may be in. Life but, man there's still so

698
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: much of your story that is gonna be. Written, man,

699
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: like don't even think about this time as like ever

700
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: being the ending or being or doubting yourself.

701
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: Just because you haven't found a home.

702
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 3: Yet, Bro like you still got a lot to bring

703
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: to the, table And god's got a lot more in

704
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 3: front of, you, bro.

705
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: For, real, officiated, man, hey in your short, career short,

706
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: career who's the best receivers that.

707
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: You had to guard? It and who's won by?

708
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: Day, no, no, no, no, no every some good Players and

709
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: who's one that surprised you, like oh, shit he got

710
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: some SOYM i didn't think he was like.

711
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 5: That uh uh that One Quaer Jack.

712
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: Jones that's the only. ONE i ain't gonna lie you

713
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 2: know that these boy can keeve. Me i'm keep it, real.

714
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 2: Man If i'm really in my, Back i've got nothing

715
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: to do with seeing. You what receivers have you covered

716
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 2: where you like they're?

717
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: Good?

718
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, no matter of, fact matter of.

719
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 4: Fact thinking of that, practice that, practice that rated practice

720
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 4: In New. ENGLAND i mean WHEN i was In New,

721
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 4: england it WAS i don't even remember his. NAME i

722
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 4: just remember he was a number eighty, nine AND i

723
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: was talking so much stuff to take a lot of

724
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: that boy came out there and went two for two of.

725
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: Them y'all was so. Sick you, know you know who

726
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: number eighty nine? Is? Drylin you, know.

727
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: Back in twenty, TWO i think it WAS i want to, say,

728
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: LIKE i want to Say.

729
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 5: Cooper maybe it was Like cooper something or Something.

730
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 2: COOPER i, think, nah That Mario cooper at eight, Nine

731
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: but that was a while. Ago that was BEFORE i

732
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: even got.

733
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: There Brian edwards was eighty nine and twenty, one BUT

734
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 3: i think he went to The falcons at some.

735
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: POINT i don't. Know oh, no maybe his name Was.

736
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 5: TONY i Think tony or does that sound?

737
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 4: RIGHT i don't, Know, bro he was that he was

738
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 4: eight for, sure for, sure little.

739
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: Brother sorry, Sorry, bro if you see, This i'm. Sorry.

740
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: Bro was It keeling? Call it?

741
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: WAS i really Don't King cole was eighty. FOUR i

742
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: definitely Remember Keiling.

743
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: Cole.

744
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: Boy, YEAH i remember my dog and that's my. Dog oh,

745
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: man that's one of the coining. Bro yeah, yeah so key,

746
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: key like, YOU i trained. Guys he was one of

747
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: the first guys THAT i. Trained when he came. Out you,

748
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: know he he acting, now he trying to get Into.

749
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: Hollywood he would.

750
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: Be, bro he should be doing some comedy skits bro

751
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: like he a clown For, yeah.

752
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: So, Jack, okay nobody Gives Jack jones' problems on the

753
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: field as far as a.

754
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: Receiver give me corners that you.

755
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: Not, say model your game, after but you like to

756
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: watch to try to pick up little things here and.

757
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: THERE i mean all.

758
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 4: The guys who they say is top, corners like literally

759
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: all of, Them Jalen, JOHNSON JayR alexander H Jayalen, ramsey.

760
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 5: Aj terrell Bo i'm Missing i'm missing somebody else on that.

761
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: List i'll be watching Like patrick's centertaining a. LOT i

762
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: think that. SAID i watched a little bit Of Darius.

763
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 4: Clay I'm i'm a fan of, them BUT i don't,

764
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 4: KNOW i just never really tapped in that.

765
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 5: Much i'm gonna start looking into him a little bit.

766
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: More BUT i just watched all the top guys who

767
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: they say is the top, guys and you, KNOW i

768
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 4: JUST i don't.

769
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: KNOW i just try to be, that be better than.

770
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: That whatever you want to.

771
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: Say when when you when you look at the situation

772
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: where here we. Sit june twenty, fourth a lot of

773
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: training camps begin probably twenty one to twenty seven days.

774
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: Out when that time, Comes Jack. JONES i called him Jack.

775
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: Jackson when you hear me stuttering with, that it's it's

776
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: because you Know i'm calling him what we called him

777
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: and not his, Boys Jackie jones by his real. Name

778
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: if you are not, signed you gotta let it like

779
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna still be working like you are. Signed because

780
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 1: my last, season it was a, lockout AND i Wasn't

781
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: when the lockout, ENDED i want to say it was

782
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: like either Late august or Early. September was just like last,

783
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: minute about twenty twelve or two thousand and, eleven whatever it,

784
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: was AND i was working, out BUT i wasn't really

785
00:37:59,480 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: working that.

786
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: Out so THEN.

787
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: I started like trying to work out and rush everything

788
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: AND i strained my. Calf and THEN i got signed

789
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: like four days, later.

790
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: Played with a caf.

791
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: THAT i couldn't, Burst LIKE i couldn't really. Run i'd

792
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: go about eighty, percent BUT i can never get to one.

793
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 1: Hundred and they wouldn't tell me. THIS i got coaches

794
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: telling other players, like, yeah, MAN dj lost a step,

795
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: literally And i'm, like, bro my cat IS i can't.

796
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: Run and SO i say that to, say whether you

797
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: are on a team or, not AND i believe you

798
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: will AND i believe you should.

799
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: Be, boy you better be working like you on the

800
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: team because when that opportunity, come they don't care if

801
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: you've been working out. Hard they don't care if OH

802
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: i didn't THINK i was gonna be. Signed you know

803
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: the saying you stay, Ready you ain't gotta get, ready.

804
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: Ain't gotta get.

805
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: Ready and so my message to you is stay ready.

806
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: MENTALLY i know Your pops is on your. Ass i'm

807
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: on your. Ass, pause but there's no more motivation than

808
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: them babies you. Got if you don't do it for,

809
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: nobody you do it for them in, yourself because it's

810
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: telling like you shouldn't be damn Where i'm gonna. Sign

811
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: and It's Jack jones the, person Not Jack jones the.

812
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: Player now we're gonna leave. That, hey what you like

813
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 1: to do outside of? FOOTBALL i know you be playing video?

814
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: Games i'll beat the fuck out you In. MADDEN i

815
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: know you be PLAYING i will beat the fuck out

816
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: you In. Madden but outside of, that, hey do you

817
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: be playing? For do you just play like head to

818
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: head or you be on? Franchise, SHIT i mean it.

819
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: Depends i'll be playing all, that, bro you play? Franchise,

820
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah i'm gonna add you to some. LEAGUES i, mean

821
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your ass, beat all, right for, sure

822
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna see it. Here you you you play video

823
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: games or you two grown for that once being a

824
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: booth being on a video GAME i started.

825
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: Making WHEN i started making, MUSIC i just like video,

826
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 3: games just kind of just like fell.

827
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: Off, naturally you ain't got no. Art so how often

828
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: you in the studio for me or? Him you ain't? Rapping,

829
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 2: yeah all, right talking to Mister.

830
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 5: Waller showing up the.

831
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: WAY i gotta change your.

832
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: Stame no you you you look like you rapping with

833
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: all the jury, on like proget pay something and guys

834
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: the Slow.

835
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: Nah but, Shit i'll be uh being the. LAB i

836
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: got my.

837
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: Engineer he lives In, houston and SO i fly him

838
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 3: out or either go there for like three four days

839
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: in a. Row i'll usually like stock up writing some,

840
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: ship probably like three four songs by the TIME i

841
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: go see probably like once a, month and then we'll

842
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: cook up on the spot to get a couple of.

843
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 3: Songs and so every time we link, up it's three

844
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: four songs that's getting. Done and, yeah So i'm not

845
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 3: recording every. Day PLUS i think feel, like you know

846
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: What i'm. SAYING i rap about real life shit That

847
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: i'm going, through shit That i'm really. Experiencing So i'm,

848
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: LIKE i feel LIKE i got to have life lived in.

849
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 3: BETWEEN i can't just be like carved up in the

850
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: studio Thinking i'm about write about some real studio in your.

851
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: House, Yeah i'm, In i'm in The i'm in the

852
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: room right. Now yeah it looks Like that's WHY i

853
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: asked in the.

854
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: STUDIO i got the acoustics and, SHIP i got the

855
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: competed modeling center right.

856
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 4: There you know, how don't play anything else Like jones

857
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 4: piano or. Anything i've been playing piano for about a year.

858
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 4: NOW i know how to play a lot of. SONGS

859
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 4: i really got to learn like theory and shit for.

860
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: Real But i'm NOT i ain't no real piano. PLAYER

861
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 4: i could play some.

862
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: Songs but see he asking you that because all them

863
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: artists that come up by The Long, beach that's what it.

864
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: Is it's all kind of hardists because it's a small.

865
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: City but it's so many people with so much. Talent

866
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, What, jack how many people don't let me

867
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: ask you? This AND i just thought about him when

868
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: we start talking music. Again you grew up playing in

869
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: A snoop you football?

870
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 2: League? Yeah how was that?

871
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: Man Because Long beach just sent a lot of dudes

872
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: to the, league and at least for, Me willie McGinnis

873
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: was one who always made it and was. Bawling but

874
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: he was always President. Polly now all season is he

875
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: coming To?

876
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: Polly he. Retired he was At polly three four days a.

877
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: Week so Between Willie mack And Super how was that

878
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: plan with The snoop you football team with other guys

879
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: that now.

880
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 2: Are now in the. League, yeah, no that that's.

881
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 4: That's that's where the competitive nature come. From you, know

882
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 4: we've been a competing since we was, six, seven eight years,

883
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 4: old and it was like real, competitive like we lose,

884
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: games we crying after want to fight. One you, know

885
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: they feel like we'd lost the two after a Regular

886
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 4: Saturday like you know What i'm, saying so, nah but

887
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 4: but shout out To Snoop, Man shout out To willie

888
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 4: that they was always there every time they could, be you,

889
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 4: know because they got a really busy. Schedule but they

890
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: definitely helped out a lot of kids And Loan. Beach

891
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 4: you know What i'm, saying putting that league in there

892
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 4: putting the teams, around and you, know some god's take

893
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: advantage of.

894
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: It, Yeah so, one we appreciate you joining us main,

895
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: uh thank.

896
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: You now any of you teams listening the?

897
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: Majority, man y'all got my, number have had the same

898
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: number twenty five. Years that's how old ARE i? Done

899
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: had the same number for twenty five? Years, man y'all call.

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00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: Me i'm gonna get y'all a REAL i ain't gonna

901
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: now one THING i won't.

902
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: DO i don't.

903
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: LIE i ain't gonna lie for. Him BUT i believe

904
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: in this, dude because we all have, lessons and we

905
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: all have, trials and we all have things that we don't.

906
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: Like And darren is a perfect example of.

907
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: That, like had a lot of misfortune early in his

908
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: life in his, career got a second third. Chance, boom

909
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: we're good and, you Mister, jack just made a couple

910
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: bad decisions and they not, like oh my, god what

911
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: was he?

912
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 2: Doing?

913
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: Passionate sometimes that passion works for us and sometimes it

914
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: works against. Us we gotta channel that the right. Way

915
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: so if y'all don't believe he can do, It i'm

916
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: vouching for. Him he can do it Because i'm gonna,

917
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: be LIKE i said, earlier on his ass like back.

918
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: Pockets oh you're too good of a player to not

919
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: be playing On.

920
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: Sunday but always, remember, man the league don't give a

921
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: fuck if you plan or you ain't. Playing you either

922
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: gone roll with him or you're gonna get your ass rolled.

923
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: Over so just make sure you doing you holding up

924
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: your end of the, market stay out of, trouble take

925
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: care of your, babies take care of, yourself take care

926
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: of your.

927
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Speaker 2: Family and, uh let these teams know they can trust. You,

928
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 2: noah for. Sure.

929
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 5: MAN i appreciate, You, MAN i appreciate.

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00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: You all hoving good, Man lady, dog you need, something

931
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: all let me name let you.

932
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: Too all right, there he's bro

933
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: The volume