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Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens are hard hiring Los Angeles Chargers defensive

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Speaker 2: Was this a safe pick for the Ravens or was

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Speaker 3: This It's the right pick for someone that's already been

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Speaker 3: when you come to play the God Damn Ravens. Bring

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Speaker 1: You know when you say play like a raven and

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Speaker 1: But to expect him to be that when he's only

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if it was scheme. I don't

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Speaker 1: Steven Shot is familiar with him. He's been in the

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Speaker 1: Who are you gonna get as an offensive coordinator? That

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Speaker 2: But they definitely need some players.

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, they've gotta get They've gotta get hold on.

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Speaker 3: I don't like when you say it like that. You

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of players to go they need.

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Speaker 3: They need impact players, impact players at pacific positions, the

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Speaker 3: I think he would have been much better during our era. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I like him, but they need improvement,

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Speaker 4: They got to meet.

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Speaker 3: The offense halfway, just halfway, because they were they were

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Speaker 4: Even though they got better as the.

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Speaker 2: They don't look you're probably not.

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Speaker 1: There's there's a less than zero point five percent chance

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Speaker 1: You talk about two of the greatest players that ever

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Speaker 2: So let's just set that to the side.

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Speaker 1: But I think you can get some players that are

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Speaker 1: That's unacceptable. That's unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I hope Lamar comes back healthy. He had a short season,

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Speaker 2: He's ready to come back.

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Speaker 1: But I'm really anxious to see who's the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: That gives you the best chance of winning.

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Speaker 1: Now, once you get that lead, oh Joe having a

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Speaker 1: So we see a real current theme about, especially over

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Speaker 2: You couldn't ask for anything.

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Speaker 1: They got eighteen years out of US super Bowl, many

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Speaker 1: And so with Lamar Jackson, I thought they would probably

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Speaker 3: And you know what, also, I wouldn't mad I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: We need somebody to help us with.

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Speaker 3: This goddamn defense and get us back to a respect

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Speaker 4: We couldn't. We couldn't be the sisters of the north

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Speaker 2: I think the thing is.

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Speaker 1: to John Harbaugh, Steve, you did it. You've done it again.

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Speaker 1: Uh oh, Joe, the chap wants to know where you

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Speaker 4: He sent me, he sent me this jersey. It's signed

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys are higher in Philadelhia Eagle Secondary coaching

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Speaker 1: It's a bit of meteoric rise for Parker, thirty four,

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Speaker 4: I mean the higher doesn't matter. Huh, the higher doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: You know, Mr Parker going over to goddamn Dallas now

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Speaker 4: I'm just being honest.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing is that I can't

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Speaker 1: We know Jalen Carter has talent out the ying Yang.

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Speaker 1: ever coached. And I'm talking about Reggie. He coached Reggie,

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Speaker 1: He coached Ricky jack He coached Bruce Smith. He said,

439
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 1: this kid is as good as as good as I've seen.

440
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 1: So it matters. I don't care nothing about no scheme

441
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 1: and all this. You can get as exotic as you

442
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 1: want to give me them, Give me them horses.

443
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need them, you need them, you need you

444
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 3: need the horses. I'm glad mister Christian Parker got the

445
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 3: DC job.

446
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 4: It's good to.

447
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 3: See you continue to elevate in your career and try

448
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 3: to climb that ladde that that coaching ladder was very

449
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 3: difficult to climb, especially going to Dallas.

450
00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 4: To be able to do it.

451
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 3: The problem that you're going to face is if you don't,

452
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 3: you don't have the same quality of players.

453
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Speaker 1: You don't have the Eagle secondary. You don't you don't

454
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: have Queenny, you don't have Cooper, you don't have Blanketship.

455
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody in your secondary is comparable to those three guys. Now,

456
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: obviously you're gonna coordinate the defense. And when you throw

457
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 1: Bond and the Kobe Dean in there and you look

458
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Speaker 1: at they got Jalen Phillips, they got Jordan Davis, they

459
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: got a Carter y'all.

460
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: Y'all don't have the quillal of that in Dallas.

461
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Speaker 1: No, And it doesn't matter what you do offensive, because

462
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Speaker 1: we've seen that dak hald have been playing out of

463
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Speaker 1: his mind. But if he has a if he has

464
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: a slow start or an off game, you guys aren't

465
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Speaker 1: stopping anything.

466
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Speaker 2: M h.

467
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 3: Now, Now what we can say is we do have

468
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Speaker 3: the draft coming up. We do have off season acquisitions.

469
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Speaker 3: I'm sure Dallas is going to happen.

470
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 2: Don't like to spending money off off season. They don't.

471
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Speaker 1: They don't like to go in fridgeency oot o joe.

472
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: You know how you just go back to school? Yeah,

473
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Speaker 2: you don't.

474
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Speaker 1: Got everything been picked on everybody and tried them jeans

475
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Speaker 1: on it, so right like damn, oh, it's just we're

476
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: gonna mark it off another five dollars because of got

477
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Speaker 1: a little mark because everybody had their ass in these jeans.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeap, Now you heard what you just said. Yeah, you

479
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: said Dallas doesn't like to do certain things. They don't

480
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 3: like to they don't like to do certain things as

481
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 3: far as in the off season. When the last time

482
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: Dallas been to the playoffs in the Super Bowl, forget

483
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 3: the playoff, they've been to the playoffs recently.

484
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 4: When the last time they've been to the Super.

485
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 1: Bowl ninety five? If I have Super Bowl ninety January

486
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Speaker 1: of ninety six.

487
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Speaker 3: Okay, you make your hay, you make your hay in

488
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 3: off season acquisitions and getting players that can help you

489
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Speaker 3: improve year to year. How do I get better? What

490
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: area do I need to improve in? You get those

491
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Speaker 3: veteran players, veteran presidences, because the chances of getting somebody

492
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Speaker 3: in the draft are gonna come in right now and

493
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Speaker 3: make a tremendous impact and change the trajectory of your offense.

494
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Speaker 4: Ve a defense is not likely.

495
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Speaker 1: May give them those two first round picks and go

496
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Speaker 1: get Max Rosman. Stopped playing.

497
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Speaker 4: Come on now, talk to me, talk nice to hell,

498
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Speaker 4: talk nice to me.

499
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Speaker 1: Go get those two first rod draft picks and go

500
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Speaker 1: get Max Crosby, because you're not gonna get anybody in

501
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Speaker 1: the draft better than Max Crosby, and he's probably the

502
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Speaker 1: only guy.

503
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: That can be had as far as a left.

504
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: You're not getting Miles Garrett, you're not getting Hutchinson, you're

505
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: not getting you're not getting a D. Nil Hunter. You're

506
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: not getting Will Anderson Jr. You're not getting any of

507
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: those guys. You're not getting Benito, you're not getting Verse,

508
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: You're not getting any of these top tier.

509
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: Russians. So I don't hold on, hold on, get Max Crosby.

510
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Speaker 4: I got a question. I got a question.

511
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, you said, you said a whole lot of names.

512
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Speaker 3: You know of some good impact players that can make

513
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Speaker 3: a change, having a tremendous impact over there in Dallas.

514
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Speaker 3: What you think about old ninety five down there in

515
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Speaker 3: Cleveland coming on down there to the big star that.

516
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Speaker 2: Not trade him?

517
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Speaker 4: Listen, listen, I'm I'm just asking you. I'm trying to

518
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 4: see where you hear that.

519
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: You think, hold on, this guy might be a two

520
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 2: time Defensive Player of the Year.

521
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Speaker 1: I tell you what, They're gonna have to give up

522
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Speaker 1: three first round draft picks and probably up the players.

523
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 3: Hey, but let me tell you something. He was there,

524
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: hold on, let me he was. He was with he

525
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 3: with Cleveland last year?

526
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 2: Right, Yes?

527
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 4: How many wins they had last year with him?

528
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: Not a lot?

529
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 4: Okay, Well they can happen, not a lot without him.

530
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Speaker 2: Guess what.

531
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Speaker 1: He the only reason, the only reason you go with.

532
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna lose. But I'm gonna say how

533
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: many sacks he's gonna get?

534
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 4: Okay, I got you.

535
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: I gotta have something O yo, y. Look he's seem

536
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: and he's made it the buttery lit clear. He's happy there,

537
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: he said, as long as as long as Hey, I

538
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: want to win, and as long as I believe that

539
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: they're going in trending in the right direction, I'm happy.

540
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: I'll be here.

541
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Speaker 3: Don't don't, don't fall for that. Come on, you know,

542
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 3: I just said what he said. Okay, that's that's what

543
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: he said. But anytime you put a camera in a

544
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 3: mic in front of a player's face and it's going

545
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: to get out there, everything is PC.

546
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Speaker 4: It's PC, you know.

547
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Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't think he wants to leave. I think

548
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: he likes Cleveland. I think he wants to I will.

549
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: I think he wants to wants to he whatever success

550
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: that Cleveland has, he wants to be a part of it.

551
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to look. He doesn't look at himself

552
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: like a mercenary.

553
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: See like Vaughn was wheeling, like the Broncos traded Von

554
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: to the Rams and what did they do? They put

555
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: him side uh A d and Leonard Fodle And now

556
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: you got hell on your hands.

557
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: And you see the second half.

558
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: Joe had that outstanding first half, and you watched the

559
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Speaker 1: second half, and you watched them, mo, folks, take the

560
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: game over.

561
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: You watch a d whip.

562
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 4: Everybody asks, well, I tell you what ill.

563
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: I tell you what if you say Miles Garrett had

564
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: no chance or opportunity to go to the Dallas Cowboys

565
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: because that Cleveland Browns would never even think the thought

566
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Speaker 3: of trading him as a no no, because that's the

567
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 3: only thing you do have.

568
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about TJ. Watt leaving the stealings and going

569
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 4: to put that stone?

570
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: CJ might be a possibility. Trey Hendrickson, you got Trey Hendrickson.

571
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: You don't have to you would have to give up

572
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: any compensation for him.

573
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

574
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Speaker 4: I like the upside of having having t J.

575
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Speaker 2: Watt.

576
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Speaker 4: I like the I like the upside of having t J.

577
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 4: Watt trade hings.

578
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Speaker 1: He's been He's been nicked the last couple of years.

579
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Speaker 1: His production tends to go down towards the tail end

580
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: of the season, but that first half he's phenomenal. Yeah,

581
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: he's a defensive Player of the Year. He's a Pro

582
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: Bowl player. He's been all Pro.

583
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 5: Uh.

584
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: He had tied the NFL record of twenty two and

585
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: a half sacks until Miles Gad broke it of twenty three.

586
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, I like it. But that's a big salary.

587
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: You gotta play now, Hello, we need to do something.

588
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 3: You gotta pay. You gotta pay for your product. Now

589
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: you ain't getting nothing for free. I know one thing.

590
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 3: If you do pay that big salary every owner. When

591
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: it comes to business, also when it comes to players,

592
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 3: if we put money into you, we want to return

593
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: on that investment. And that's the type of player. If

594
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 3: you're paying big money, the chances are a.

595
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 4: Ninety eight point nine.

596
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 3: Percent you're gonna get a return on an investment when

597
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: you invest in elite talent like that.

598
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, oh Joe, But they got to

599
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: do something. They gotta do something because it doesn't do

600
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: any of you any good. You got a four thousand

601
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: yard passer to one thousand yard receiver that the yard

602
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: Russia and your ass missed the playoffs. Yeah, because because

603
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: you had a Super Bowl offense and a Bud Bowl defense.

604
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 4: Hey, could you imagine? I got a question for you.

605
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 3: Could could you imagine the Dallas Cowboys hypothetically speaking?

606
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 4: Chat ye, stay with me, the.

607
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys offense, with the Seahawks defense, with the with

608
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: the Broncos defense.

609
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: Doc, man, you're not it's o Joe. Do you understand

610
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: how hard it is to have that?

611
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 4: Man?

612
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: Because normally you invest on one side of the other.

613
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: He says, Okay, this is how we're gonna make I

614
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: hate now you. It's possible if you draft.

615
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 4: Really really well, really really well.

616
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: Yes, uh, you look at the Broncos one year.

617
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: Okay, they drafted the Marius Thomas, they drafted Eric Decker,

618
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: they drafted Julia Thomas, they drafted no Sean Marino, they

619
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: drafted u uh, they head I think Klady was was there,

620
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: and then they drafted Von Miller. They drafted Roby, they

621
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: drafted Chris Harris Junior was undrafted. They drafted those two backers,

622
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: Dandy Travathor and then Brandon Marshall. They drafted Derrick Well,

623
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Speaker 1: they drafted Maliite Jackson. So now you sprinkle in a key.

624
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: Now you sprinkling tj Ward. Yeah, okay, okay, now we

625
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: got something.

626
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: You know. It's it's it's all about knowing how the

627
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: bill a team you do, having the right team, having

628
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 3: the right eyes, having the right scouts. Yes, and Jeffrey

629
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: Lewie and Howie Roseman have done a phenomenal job at that.

630
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: I'm not sure why this is a copycat league. It's

631
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: a copycat NFL when it comes to offenses and defenses.

632
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: Things that you see, other things that you see work

633
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: for other people. Most of the time, teams copy it,

634
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 3: whether it be offensive defense. I'm not sure why owners

635
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 3: and coaches and gms and scouts don't copy, cause.

636
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: I do it by way. Oh Joe, that's your way, ye.

637
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: But their ways working, and that that that that's the

638
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: point I'm trying.

639
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: I'd rather fail my way than succeed somebody else's. Look

640
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: at the Houston Texans. Look how they drafted. You get

641
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: Will Lanerson, You get Stingley Lassiter Petrie uh uh two

642
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: o two Oh. I think that's how you say his name,

643
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: t o O t o. Uh, you get him. Now

644
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: you traded for as year. Uh Will Lanerson Jr. Now

645
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: you you get Danail Hunter in free agency? Nail Yeah, Okay,

646
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: you get c J. You get Nico, you get Tangdale

647
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: Woody Marks. With a low round draft hit, I think

648
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: you go back into the draft, you get an offensive lineman.

649
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: But that's what you got. You got you got to

650
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: have it. It's hard. I mean to have mean one offense,

651
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: one defense. I think the Patriots, I think the Patriots

652
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: the Chargers had the number one offense and the number

653
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: one defense.

654
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: And missed the playoffs. How that happened?

655
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: But the Cowboys, the Cowboys have a formula. Jerry believes

656
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: he has a formula. He wants everybody to take a

657
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: discount because you playing in Dallas, and it should be

658
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: an honor to play in Dallas.

659
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: It should be an honor.

660
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: He don't really pays coaches top dollars because it's an

661
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: honor for you to coach the Cowboys.

662
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: But something's gotta give.

663
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he keeps on talking that he'll he'll, he'll sit

664
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: down and retire once he has the most super Bowl. Bro,

665
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: you got three, the Patriots got six, huh and the

666
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: Steelers of the ruin is they got six. You got

667
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: a ways to go. You're not close. You missed the playoffs.

668
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know why you're talking super bowls. You

669
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't say super uh boy. As a matter of fact,

670
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: you put another piece say supper.

671
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: We about to eat and go to bed.

672
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: But uh look, I agree with everything you just said.

673
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad for the meteoric rise that Parker had. But

674
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I don't care who

675
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: the trainer is. Bob Baffick's great. He ain't winning the

676
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby with donkeys without the horses. God damn it.

677
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: It's a good analogy, boy.

678
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: And I know, and I know Bob Bardswell.

679
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 4: That's a good analogy.

680
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: That's a you're not.

681
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 4: That's a good one. That's a good analogy. I like

682
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 4: that one. So I'm still in that.

683
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.

684
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: They Atlanta Falcons find their new head coach. They agreed

685
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: to terms with Kevin Stefanski last week, and Stefanski now

686
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: is in the NFC South. It means that he's going

687
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: to have to face off against Baker Mayfield twice a year.

688
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: Uh uh, Orlando Ledbetter.

689
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: Falcons coach Kevin Stefanski had a dumpsterfied quarterback in Cleveland.

690
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield Deshaun Watson failed, which started the chain reaction

691
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: to eleven other starters. Shoudre Sanders closed out last season

692
00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: with seven starts. Excuse me, Baker took exception and responding

693
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: by firing a shot of his former coach failed. Is

694
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: quite a reach path still winning on a Texa call

695
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: from him after I got shipped off like a piece

696
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: of garbage. Can't wait to see you twice a year, coach,

697
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: Ben Joe Thomas, You know. We had Joe Thomas on

698
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: last year at the draft. It was in Green Bay.

699
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: He's from Wisconsin. Joe played over ten thousand snaps and

700
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: only missed one snap in his career, he said. Joe

701
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: Thomas said, I could be wrong, but I've heard that

702
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: communication of the two way street, and there are no

703
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: laws against you, Baker, sending Stefanski a text or calling

704
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: him after you got traded.

705
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: Why in the hell, Why in the hell with the

706
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: goddamn player text the coach after getting traded?

707
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: What since does that make I love Joe? I love

708
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 4: Joe to death. Absolutely not.

709
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: You don't textan call no coach about oh thank you

710
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: for everything.

711
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: No, it's not a head coach.

712
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: It's not your position coach, offensive coordinator or your quarterback

713
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: coach of time.

714
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: But you know, but listen, don't nobody really need to

715
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: be texting nobody honestly? You know, nobody need to be

716
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: texting honestly.

717
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: You know, well, I got text.

718
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 4: This is this is business. This is the this is

719
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 4: the business. This Saint. We ain't here to be friends.

720
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: Were getting paid a healthy ransom to play a child's

721
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 3: game that we love.

722
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: And if it's not working out.

723
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: Here, what we're gonna do. We're gonna shift your ass off.

724
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: You mean a king's ramsdom or health?

725
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: I said, a hefty, a healthy ramsm king's hefty same

726
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: ship is a lot.

727
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: Well wet in chat knew what you meant, though, right, Okay,

728
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: my bad, my bad.

729
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 2: We're gonna look back forty years from now.

730
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a healthy ransom.

731
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 4: Uh uh.

732
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: Look when I when I when I left Denver, Coop

733
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: and my position coach, Brian Perranny who you saw in

734
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: the video with me on Saturday in the box and

735
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: we still communicate. And when I left h Baltimore to

736
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: go back to Denver, Wade Harmon, who.

737
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: Was my position coach.

738
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: They all called me, So I didn't expect the head

739
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: coach to call, but my position coach and the offensive coordinator.

740
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: Like I said, but I had known Kop since I've

741
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: been in Denver. I'd known Koon Coop since who's the

742
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator was? He was my quarterback back up to

743
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: John for two years, not your two years, and then

744
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: he was my offensive coordinator from ninety five through ninety nine.

745
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: And when I got back two and three, BP was

746
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: the same thing. So we had that type of relationship

747
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: that calls it Bud.

748
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

749
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: I wish there was something I could do, but uh,

750
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: Coop told me and said, look, go showing what it

751
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: takes to bill Champion. Go showing what it takes to

752
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. I know you still got juice

753
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: in the tires, and I wish that something BPS at

754
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: Homeboy said damn, I sure hate to see you go,

755
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: but go do what you do. Yes, and Wade Harmon,

756
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: who was my position coach in Baltimore, said the same thing.

757
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: They gonna mission, big play, gonna mission. You kept it,

758
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: You kept it fun, and uh, I never had to

759
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: worry about you. But no, normally coaches, head coaches don't call.

760
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: They don't, they don't. I mean, oh, try Look I'm

761
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: not trying to dump on Baker because I think Baker

762
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: has done a great job. I don't know if Baker

763
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: would have had the level of success that he had

764
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: in Tampa if he'd had in Cleveland because they were

765
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: out I think the organization, because you hear whispered, they

766
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: wanted an adult to be to lead the team, and

767
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: I think they were kind of out on him at

768
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: that point in time.

769
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: On Joe.

770
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: So I don't know if he'd have the level of success,

771
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna have success in Carolina because Carolina was just.

772
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: That was the dumpster fire. Uh.

773
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: And then he went to the Rams, and we know

774
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: that was only because Matthew Stafford got hurt and they

775
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 1: needed a quarterback to fill in, so forth and song,

776
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: so he landed on his feet. But you you take

777
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: it a little personal ojo because somebody gets rid of you.

778
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: If your girl, If your girl says she wants to

779
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: break up, she believes that she can find someone better

780
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: than you.

781
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: You believe, and you you feel some type of way

782
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: you do.

783
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: It's it's natural and it's okay, something like damn, oh,

784
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: y'all really feel.

785
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 4: Y'all really feel like y'all can y'all can replace me?

786
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: Forget on the field, y'all even know about all these

787
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: brush fires that I put out.

788
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: Come on now in the locker room.

789
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: Take your time that you don't even know about how

790
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: I kept the guys loose on you know, on the

791
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: practice and made sure guys were ready to play and

792
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: the hell guy's accountable.

793
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 4: Okay, bad, but I like it. I like I like

794
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 4: Baker nine. This is gonna be exciting for me. Now

795
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: we got we got Stefanski and we got Baker. That

796
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: is gonna's excuse.

797
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: Me, that's gonna be the replacement from Marshawn Lattimore and

798
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: god damn Mike Evans, even.

799
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 4: Though is not on the field.

800
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to every Tampa Bay and god damn

801
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcon game because I just want to see Baker

802
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: throw a touchdown and throw something and look at Stefanski and.

803
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: Just you know he is, you know he is, you

804
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 2: know he will Hey.

805
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 3: Talk is trash. I like the way Baker Mayfield plays

806
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: the game. He got moxie, like mel Kiper says, he

807
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: plays with a chip on his shoulder. You know, so

808
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: I have no problem with it. I understand. The only

809
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: thing I don't like is or you could have called

810
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 3: nah man. It's a business man, and people don't care

811
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 3: nothing about you, especially when they don't see you as

812
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: valuable anymore.

813
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: Thank you.

814
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 4: We don't see as valuable man going about your business man.

815
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 4: That's fam shipping you off.

816
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 2: Love. Ask your question, O't Joe you think Coach Belichick

817
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: called Tom Brady?

818
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 4: Hell no, absolutely not.

819
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: If he can If Brady can't get no party call,

820
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: ain't nobody getting no damn call, not at all.

821
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 4: But it's a nature of the business. You got to

822
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 4: be able to separate the two.

823
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: You have to be old.

824
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: I separate the two and understand and get your feelings

825
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: out of it. You got to get your feelings out

826
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 3: of it.

827
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I know what I meant.

828
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: The owner, Art Modell, when I left, he wrote me

829
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: a personal letter, handwritten. I got I take a picture

830
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: of next time. It's on my wall. Because when I

831
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: went to the Hall of Fame, Peyton sent me a letter. Uh,

832
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: mister Dan Rooney sent me a letter. They're bout three owners.

833
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: Four owners sent me letter. The player plate the Peyton

834
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: Manning was the player. But Art Modell when I went

835
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: to go back to Ballim, when I went to go

836
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: back to Denver, He's like, Shannon, I would love to

837
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: have you, he said, but you deserve the right to

838
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: go back to Denver, retire Bronco.

839
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: He said.

840
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: You did me proud, you did what you know. Hey,

841
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: you're great, he said, But I'd be so selfish if

842
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: I kept you. Knowing that you really wanted to go

843
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: back to Denver. That meant a lot to me. That

844
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: that meant a lot, because mister he thought a lot,

845
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: he thought a lot of me and Ray. Uh, we'd

846
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: always he he and Ozzy would be sitting on the

847
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: golf cart Ojo, and he would make Ozzy him and

848
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: Ozzy would walk back while me and Ray would get

849
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,479
Speaker 1: the golf cart and drive.

850
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: Well, I damn sure we're gonna drive it back? Did

851
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: you get back on there?

852
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: We drive it up to the building the parkt or

853
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: he'd have a driver or something and he would drive

854
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: us up there. They'd get off standing talk driver, take

855
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: me and Ray up to the building, turn around and

856
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: go back and get Ozzy and Art. So Art did

857
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: he did, In fact, when I went back to Denver

858
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: send me a personal letter thanking me for my contributions

859
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: there and said I deserve the rite to go retire Bronc.

860
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: That's dope. That's dope.

861
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: I mean that.

862
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, your your your relationship is kind of different.

863
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: It is.

864
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: I had those players.

865
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: Most players don't carry themselves the way you did, where

866
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: there's a certain respect. Yes, where he didn't see it

867
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: as just business, you know, he saw a little bit

868
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: more special than that. And everyone is not afforded the inportunity,

869
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: no real that type of relationship with owners, but owners

870
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 3: are really good at keeping it down the middle, being

871
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 3: able to separate the tool because when it's time to

872
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 3: let you go, you can't have feelings get in the way.

873
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: You're right, Well, that's why they don't want They don't

874
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: want high up messing with subordinates because they cloud's your judgment. Yeah,

875
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: you remember what Bathsheba did today of what David did

876
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: to Bashiba's husband. Come on, now, that's why you don't

877
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: let generals have with corporals and underneath, because I you know,

878
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: we get this thing called war and I might have

879
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: to put your ass out there, and then you know,

880
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: we got a little hanky panky going on.

881
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not come on now, but my boot

882
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 4: can't go right, uh.

883
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: Mister B.

884
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: When I got back, man, mister I remember when I

885
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: retired on yoe uh and had a conversation with mister B.

886
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: And he's like, is there any job that you want

887
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: in the organization? Say no, mister B. I say, my, my,

888
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: you know this TV thing. And every time I would

889
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: come back, you know, I used to go back a lot.

890
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: I did, and I used to go back a lot.

891
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: I go see him in training camp and stuff like that.

892
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: He would always ask me you know, Sharper, you know,

893
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: I love to have it. I just I'd love to

894
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: have your presence around. I like, mister B, I said,

895
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: I love you to death. I say, but we're working

896
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: working for a football teammate, my passion. It's not my calling,

897
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: right right, But you're right, ot you. I had a

898
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: great relationship with Mster B. I only had two owners,

899
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: mister B and Art Modell. I remember the first time

900
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: I got on a plane with him because I was

901
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: going back when he was dealing with the situation would

902
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: raid back in two thousand and I said, mister Modell.

903
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: You know, he's like, don't call me mister. He said

904
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: that was my grandfather called me Art. So from that

905
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: point on, everybody called him Mark.

906
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: You didn't. Nobody called him mister Modell. Uh. But it was.

907
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: It was a great relationship.

908
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: And it's it's nice, and I wish more owners were

909
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: were accessible, and and it's you know, I understand, you

910
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: got a job. I got a job. He has a job.

911
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the job, my job to the best

912
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: of my ability. I'm gonna be very respectful.

913
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

914
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: But you know, obviously some owners, you know, they keep

915
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: to the to the and I became a good I

916
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: became a great player, uh for the for the Broncoso

917
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: and so I understood.

918
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

919
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: But but for the most part, I think most great

920
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: players do have somewhat of a cordial relationship, a friendly

921
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: relationship with the owner.

922
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. I I have a great one.

923
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 3: Obviously, I've had one on one owner my whole career,

924
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: obviously playing for mister Craft and Tom Brady and Belichick.

925
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 4: You know, during my time there.

926
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: But it was at it was so short, I mean,

927
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: the relationship there was really no extent to it, right,

928
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: But mister Brown and that organization, what they've done for

929
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: me and having that relationship with them where I have

930
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: an open door policy at all times, regards of who's coaching,

931
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: regards of what's going on, anything I ever need, it's

932
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: open door policy, and they have. They have been very

933
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: gracious and in showing that love and and and and

934
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: appreciation for me years remove.

935
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 4: Were the most important thing. I am of no value

936
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 4: to you anymore. Yep, I am of no value.

937
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: And still it's open arms and open doors. So for that,

938
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: I've always been been gracious. But I don't take advantage

939
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 3: of it. No, I go to one or two games

940
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: a year. That's it.

941
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: Don't I don't call even even back then on Shoe

942
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: with mister butlerwand there, You're like, you need anything, you

943
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: need tickets, just calls, you know, call my secretary. I

944
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: had a direct line to the secretary and they'll take

945
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: care of everything.

946
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: I would always I wouldn't go through that.

947
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: I would go through the ticket and then I would

948
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: charge it on my card and send X, Y and

949
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: Z so forth and so on. The same thing was

950
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: the case, like, hey, I got you know, uh will

951
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: call Shannon Shark and then get the tickets. That's that's

952
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: that's how That's how I did it because you, like

953
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: you said, I didn't want anything. And then when the

954
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: super Bowl was happening, they would like, hey, you know

955
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: you want to go to the super Bowl.

956
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: I was like yeah. I was like.

957
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: New York and it's gonna be cold, man, I say,

958
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: I said, man, I said, mister Bowler, I would love it.

959
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: I said, I would love to go, mister b I said,

960
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 1: but I can't sit out there no cold, he'd say.

961
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 4: And that's how you know that.

962
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, So so now I got a call out, Johani,

963
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in a box by myself. Got cool.

964
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 1: So I hate Rod. You want to go to super Bowl? Hey,

965
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: all you gotta do to get here? I got tickets

966
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: and everything. Crop you want to go to super Bowl?

967
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: I got tickets and everything. Same thing as San Francisco

968
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: had a big old sweet. I had like a twelve

969
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: person sweet with just me Rod in foots, I mean me,

970
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: Rod and Krop.

971
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just to give to give people in the chat,

972
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: you know, a better, better perspective and in better context

973
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: on my relationship and Cincinnati with Mike Brown and everyone

974
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 3: under Mike Brown and those who are in positions of

975
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 3: power who call the shots and have the green lights

976
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 3: when it comes to structuring and changing their culture. There

977
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, they went to the super Bowl. Yep,

978
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one went to.

979
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: The Super Bowl.

980
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 3: I don't even play no more, and I'm getting the offering. Listen,

981
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: We're going to super Bowl. If you if you're going

982
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 3: to be down in LA, we have a ticket for you.

983
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 3: Did you go Nomeer? Remember I was already there. You know,

984
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: obviously I do all my work during the week, but

985
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: you know I leave. I leave the morning of the game.

986
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: That's how it used to be.

987
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: I go in there, do them appearances, you know, make

988
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: them a little bad so I can afford McDonald's. And

989
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 3: I get up on that of that listen, I said,

990
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: thank you. I appreciate it, but I'm not I'm not

991
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: gonna be able to make it to the game, but

992
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: I will be watching and full support.

993
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm but it's.

994
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 2: It's it's great.

995
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: I just think the baker, you know, I mean, you

996
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: you get hurt, you know, you sometimes you get your

997
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: feelings hurt and and and uh, but I think it's rare.

998
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

999
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: And like I said, I don't know every relationship player,

1000
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: coach player, but it's hard for me.

1001
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see a situation where I don't

1002
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: even know. I'm trying to think.

1003
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: Well, Jim Carwell got fired, so yes, because remember his

1004
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: first year, they went to the super Bowl.

1005
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: The next year, Peyton got hurt. He got fired, so

1006
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: I don't I don't.

1007
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if he might have dien but I

1008
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: don't know if he could call him say anything because

1009
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: he got fired and Peyton got cut. So it was

1010
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: a situation that was terrible for for me, for everyone.

1011
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, Oh, yo o yo, Oh Joe, I want

1012
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: to get your take. I'lmost gonna sit back. I'm gonna

1013
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: kick my heels up. In his exit interview this week, CJ.

1014
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: Stride blamed the Texas Stellar defense for his struggles this

1015
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: season as he no longer has to be superman on

1016
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: the field. Oh yo, take a listen to what this

1017
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: young man had to say.

1018
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 5: I think just the turnovers, you know, like I haven't

1019
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 5: really been prone to turnovers in my career, especially like

1020
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 5: you know, the timely turnovers you know where you know,

1021
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 5: like I told y'all before, I really you know, been

1022
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 5: on I've been on some great teams, you know, my

1023
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 5: whole career. A lot of them were you know, offensive

1024
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 5: droven you know, and like you know, playing for coach

1025
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 5: Day where you know we're taking shots and always and

1026
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 5: then you know, like you know this team, you know

1027
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 5: where you know we're more full everywhere. You know where

1028
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 5: it's offense, defense and special teams. Well you know defenses,

1029
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 5: you know is making a bunch of plays. So you know,

1030
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 5: this year was a step for me where like I

1031
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 5: didn't have to be superman all the time, and I'm

1032
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 5: still growing in that.

1033
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1034
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 5: So you know, I appreciate my teams are taking a

1035
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 5: lot of pressure, you know, off.

1036
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: Of my plate.

1037
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 5: But also you know, they do know that I can

1038
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 5: make those plays. So you know, I'm appreciative that of

1039
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 5: them having that perspective. And I feel like I've grown,

1040
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 5: you know, in that way of like you know, taking

1041
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 5: what's there, you know, in ways where you know I

1042
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 5: would have taken a shot there or just you know,

1043
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 5: take care of.

1044
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: The ball some other ways. But you know, I just seeing.

1045
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 5: Some growth in my footwork, you know, in the pocket,

1046
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 5: you know, trusting my guys, staying in the pocket and

1047
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 5: not just running around, you know, but you know, staying

1048
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 5: strong and firm. So I think I stepped made a

1049
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 5: step in that area as well. But you know, always

1050
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 5: things are improving and I'll do that.

1051
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this AI, this gotta be AI. Hey,

1052
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: let's check and see if this AI because ain't no

1053
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: ain't no.

1054
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 2: Way in hell?

1055
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 4: Well, which which part, which part, which part.

1056
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: Of the whole the whole thing is AI?

1057
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 3: I mean, from what I just heard him, reflecting on

1058
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: some of the things where he has room for improvement,

1059
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: he said, the turnovers I and.

1060
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 2: The reason why is because of his defense was so great.

1061
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 4: Okay, I must have missed that part you want to

1062
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 4: replay for you? Yeah, it must he must have said that.

1063
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 2: Can we rewrap that right quick?

1064
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 5: At the very beginning, I think just the turnovers, you know,

1065
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 5: like I haven't really been prone the turnovers in my career,

1066
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 5: especially like you know, the timely turnovers you know where

1067
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 5: you know, like I told y'all before, I really you know,

1068
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 5: been on I've been on some great teams, you know,

1069
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 5: my whole career where a lot of them were you know,

1070
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 5: offensive droven you know, and like you know, playing for

1071
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 5: coach Day where you know we're taking shots and all

1072
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 5: these and then you know, like you know this team,

1073
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 5: you know where you know we're more full everywhere. You

1074
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 5: know where it's offense, defense and special teams, well you

1075
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 5: know defenses. You know, he's making a bunch of plays.

1076
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 5: So you know, this year was a was a step

1077
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 5: for me where like I didn't have to be Superman

1078
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 5: all the time.

1079
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 4: And I'm still growing in that.

1080
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Take it away with Joe.

1081
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm maybe I'm I'm tripping unco maybe some

1082
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 3: role my goddamns I mean, I'm listening to what he's saying,

1083
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 3: but maybe the way the way, the way you're regurgitating

1084
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 3: it to me, I'm expecting to say something like that,

1085
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 3: but I mean, from what I got from it is

1086
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 3: it's one of the few times I didn't have to

1087
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 3: be superman this year because my defense is as great

1088
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 3: as they were.

1089
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 2: So that's why you turned the ball over?

1090
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 3: No, No, obviously he said that. You heard you heard

1091
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: me said, uh, I have room for improvement. I have

1092
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 3: to stop turning the ball over. And I like that

1093
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 3: he's reflecting on some of the things that he can

1094
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 3: continue to grow on. I heard, I heard that part.

1095
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: I think the reason why he turned the ball over

1096
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: because of his defense because he knew they could get.

1097
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: It back for it.

1098
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 4: Oh.

1099
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 3: Oh, that that's a that's a little bit excessive right now.

1100
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, what you what that defense? You take risk

1101
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: that you normally wouldn't take.

1102
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 4: You take right, right, right, right, right right?

1103
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: But oh wait.

1104
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: About how careful Dak Prescott has to be with the

1105
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: football knowing his defense can't.

1106
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: Get it back for it.

1107
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 4: Right. Yeah, Okay, I see what you're saying. I see,

1108
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 4: I see you going with it. I see you're going

1109
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 4: with it. I like I like it.

1110
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: Look, the only season that he really didn't turn the

1111
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: ball over was his rookie season. Because his rookie season

1112
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: he had five picks. The next year he had twelve.

1113
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: Now he had five intercessions in the play in two

1114
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: games in the postseason with five fumbles. Yeah, he had

1115
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 1: eight picks, but he missed three games and half another one.

1116
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: So are we sure he doesn't turn the ball?

1117
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 4: Are we sure?

1118
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: Are you willing to go on and limbout Joe?

1119
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean we watched the game. We

1120
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: saw it, we saw it.

1121
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: We are I'm saying, are you sure he doesn't turn

1122
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: the ball over? Because that's not what his resume says.

1123
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: His resume, he says his rookie year, He's absolutely right,

1124
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: he didn't turn the ball over. But I look at

1125
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: his second and third year. I would tell I mean,

1126
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: the numbers would disagree.

1127
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: Agree.

1128
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely.

1129
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: He know, he knows he got a lot of treat

1130
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 3: me bad and young boy know he got a lot

1131
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 3: of work to do on He has a.

1132
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 4: Lot of a lot of work to do.

1133
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 3: And I like the fact that he can stand up

1134
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 3: in front of the camera and he can take accountability

1135
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 3: for it as well.

1136
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: Oh Jo, you don't have to do all that talking.

1137
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: Just say you know what I need to do better.

1138
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: Don't blame your defense for you not having to put

1139
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: the superman KP on your defense. Hold On was the

1140
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: nail hunted the last year? Was Stingley there? Last year?

1141
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: With Will Anderson? Junr There last year? Shazil or two Petrie.

1142
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm just help me understand who on this defense that's

1143
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: there this year?

1144
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: Wasn't there last year? Yeah? I don't know what's rankings there?

1145
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: Look at see.

1146
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: I want to see if if a rankings was their

1147
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: last year, If Tim Settle Junior, Mario Edward Jr. I

1148
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: want to know because I believe those other guys that

1149
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: I mentioned, I believe they were there. So I'm going

1150
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: to find out what guys weren't there on that defense

1151
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: last this year that wasn't there last year.

1152
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 4: Ew And you got to.

1153
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 3: You thought it was you thought it was bad to

1154
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 3: wait to wait the way you gave a little interview though.

1155
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't there last year about Junr Or Mario Edwards Jr.

1156
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 4: Mario Edward Jr.

1157
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 3: Okay, he was there, hold On Mario Edwing Jr. Ain't

1158
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: the old the former number one pick son, is it.

1159
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: Mario? No? No, no, no, that.

1160
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 4: Oh Rob, say god damn time flying.

1161
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: No, okay, this Mario was as a and that was

1162
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: Mario Williams.

1163
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 4: Williams. Yeah, okay, my bad, My bad, my bad.

1164
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: Oh yo.

1165
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: If you don't have to be superman, you shouldn't struggle

1166
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: because I don't need you to take a necessary risk.

1167
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: I don't need you to put that cape on.

1168
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 4: Right.

1169
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: You see how don't you see how it doesn't just suppose?

1170
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 4: Okay?

1171
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: You see I was thinking, well, I don't have to

1172
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 1: take I don't have to be superman. It should be easy,

1173
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,959
Speaker 1: hand the ball off, make a few plays here or there.

1174
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: Got a defense that can back me up, Knowing if

1175
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't turn the ball over, the likelihood of a

1176
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: team driving seventy eighty yards on us.

1177
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 4: Coach not good, Yeah, we're good.

1178
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't I don't get it.

1179
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 4: But oh I don't get.

1180
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 3: He's reflecting on the entirety of the season in a

1181
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: small clip, more so, mentioning some of the things he

1182
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 3: can do better in some of the areas where he

1183
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 3: has work.

1184
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: But what does his defense having to do with him

1185
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: not having to be Superman, and how does that equate

1186
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: to him turning. I'm thinking, if you don't have to

1187
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: be Superman, you don't have to take the unnecessary.

1188
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 4: Risk, right, I mean, Josh Allen has to.

1189
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: Be Superman, and he had to be and he guess

1190
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: what he did, Oh Joe, he turned the ball over.

1191
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're saying you don't.

1192
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: Have to be Superman, I'm just trying to figure out

1193
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: how turnovers come along with that. Because you don't have

1194
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: to take the risk, you don't have to put the

1195
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: ball in harm's way, because you don't have to worry

1196
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: about an offense outscoring you, because the likelihood of that

1197
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: they scoring twenty eight thirty.

1198
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 4: One points on that defense not happening.

1199
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: Without pig six scooping scores overturn.

1200
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that ain't happening. Yeah, that ain't happening. I don't know.

1201
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: I just think the thing sometimes that you we we

1202
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: talked too much, just a in that situation. I'm just

1203
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: disappointed how the season turned out. There are some things

1204
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: that I need to work on, But don't say you

1205
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: struggled because of the defense was so good and you

1206
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: didn't have to be Superman. You only really Superman one year.

1207
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you see goes back to that rookie.

1208
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: I don't.

1209
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 4: I don't think he meant it in the way and

1210
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 4: in the way you're how.

1211
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: Am I supposed to take it? Oh Joe?

1212
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: Tell me, I want you to break it. I want

1213
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: you to explain it to me if I was French.

1214
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: Fry, I mean he I mean, I think maybe maybe

1215
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: we're hearing it in two different ways. I think he

1216
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: just listen, I made mistakes, he made mistakes in the past.

1217
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 2: Does his defense have to do with that? Though? Him

1218
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: making mistakes?

1219
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: That's like, oh Joe, man, Oh Joe, well, I did

1220
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: this because UNC made a mistake.

1221
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: What does my mistake have to do with you?

1222
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1223
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: What does the defense being great have to do with

1224
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: him turning the ball all over?

1225
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: This is okay? Explain that to me him. What did

1226
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: that defense have to do with that?

1227
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 4: I have no idea. I have no idea.

1228
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 3: I just I just I'm just listening to the part

1229
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 3: where he said he with on the things that he

1230
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 3: needs to work on.

1231
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 4: That's all. That's all.

1232
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 3: I understand him mentioning the defense as as good as

1233
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: they were, it shouldn't looked like it did those last

1234
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 3: two games.

1235
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 4: It shouldn't have, because.

1236
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 3: We said that on the show before they even played

1237
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 3: the first playoff game. If they keep the ball out

1238
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: of harm's way, they got a superior chance, absolutely superior.

1239
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 3: And they shouldn't be playing this weekend if there were

1240
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 3: no turnovers.

1241
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: Honestly, a one. You just don't give a five.

1242
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 4: O't yo.

1243
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: Oh tuo.

1244
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: The man had other man have five thumbers and five

1245
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: picks in two games.

1246
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, now granted.

1247
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: They got they jumped on the he jumped on a

1248
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: couple of them in Pittsburgh. But don't you you can't

1249
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: turn over? What do you have four picks in the

1250
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: first half? Yeah, four picks in the first half.

1251
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: Defense.

1252
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: Hey, Will Anderson Junior says, Hey, you gave it to him.

1253
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it back for you. He said, I'm

1254
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 1: gonna get it right back to him. Though, sometimes when

1255
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: things go good, you say little. When they go bad,

1256
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: you save and less.

1257
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: He had to talk.

1258
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 3: He had to talk today, so he had to say something.

1259
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: You know, most of the time he complained about players

1260
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: and not stepping up to the mic and not talking

1261
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 3: when things don't go well.

1262
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: How the season went, and just just and I'll be

1263
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: better and then leave your struggles. You don't mention your

1264
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: struggles because of the success of the defense. Who I mean,

1265
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: oh yoall the man been in the league three years.

1266
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: Name the time that you've heard some I had to

1267
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: say c J. Stride put on that Superman cake. I've

1268
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: heard it with Lamar, I've heard it with Josh Allen.

1269
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: I've heard it with my homeboy. I've heard it with

1270
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Tell me the time you've heard somebody say

1271
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: that about c J. I'm getting on one of your

1272
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: cough drops.

1273
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: Take time.

1274
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 4: Hold on, uh man, they gonna my dog right there.

1275
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: She