1 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Best Podcast Available Training competition. Here are 2 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: your hosts, Jason Gibbs, Andrew Gribble and Nick Shook, and 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: we welcome you into day number three of the Best 4 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Podcast Available Training Camp edition. Gibbs, Shook Gribble styling and 5 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: profiling with the hat for day three and the next 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: thirty days. It's surgically attached to his head. Why don't 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: mind a lot of white shirts out? Today is hot. 8 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: It's hot day. It is a very very warm day, 9 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: to say the least. I didn't get the memo. Evidently 10 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: that's all right. You got a T shirt on. That's 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: a nice T shirt, And I did not get that. 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: Very cool. You know what I did? I benefit from 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: being the only person in the department that wears extra large. 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: I got all the Excel stuff short a little bit larger, 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: and they don't have anything in my size shortage on 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: the on the else, right now, I'm wearing some some 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: two eighteen year right now. Yeah. Uh so that's your 18 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: fashion update from the Best Podcast Available. We are we're 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: recapping day three. It was a hot day, it was 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: a hot morning. Uh definitely. I think one of the 21 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: bigger crowds from the first three days, a lot of 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: people uh somewhat into it. You know. It took a 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: little bit to get going, but by the end of 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: practice they were, they were up and at him. But 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: first day in pads and a big day for this 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: football team from an offensive side of things, in a 27 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: defensive side, and much like yesterday, GRIBs, you can take 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: a positive comes some positives away from the offense and 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: the defense. Yeah, I'm taking more positive away from the 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: defense to day, though. I think it was I liked 31 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: what I mean, they made things difficult and made things 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: tougher for the There's a reason why there didn't seem 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: to be as much excitable moments is because the offense 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: really wasn't getting much going, and I think it and 35 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: I focused mostly on the first team offense, first first 36 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: team defense. There was obviously a lot of some highlights 37 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: with the second team offense, third team offense, but really 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: it took until the end of camp today, which was 39 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: maybe the most impressive offensive stretch we've seen at all 40 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: three days. But it took a while to get there, 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: you know. And Baker looked great in the red zone period, 42 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: but clearly when he got frustrated the period before that, 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: got upset with some people for not running the scrambled drill. 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: I think that was obviously a reflection of that play, 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: But it was a tough day up to that point 46 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: before he lit into his group a little bit. There's 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: probably a good amount of a cause for concern leading 48 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: up to that to mana drill, because the offense just 49 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: was disjointed. They just couldn't really get much going and 50 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, you know, they couldn't get 51 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: guys to finish their routes. It just didn't seem like 52 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: a very good offensive practice. You had guys false starting, 53 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: you had all kinds of you know, blocks being missed, 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: especially on the edge. And this is a very good 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: defensive line. But that, to Manta drill really did save 56 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: their momentum for the day and opened everybody's eyes again 57 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: to wow, this is a very talented group and when 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: they have to move quickly, they can move the ball 59 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: very fast. They covered sixty yards and three plays. It 60 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: was a heck of a of a display to close 61 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: practice and a positive momentum going into uh Sunday. But 62 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: I was surprised that despite the defense really winning most 63 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: of the day, the defensive line wasn't quite as good 64 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: as they were the first two days, and I think 65 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: a lot of that had to do with pads. J. C. 66 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: Trader kind of predicted it yesterday, which was that, you know, 67 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: he think he said, the defensive line thinks they're gonna 68 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: get an advantage putting putting pads on, and really we're 69 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: going to get the advantage of the offensive line because 70 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: now we can get physical with them. Before we couldn't 71 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: really didn't have anything to grab on, and I think 72 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: that showed at times today. All right, let's get right 73 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: into it, practice number three in the books game balls. 74 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: Let's start handing them out. Gribbs will start with you. 75 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: You know, I'm going a little off the wall here. 76 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm picking T. J. Kerry. I think that he is 77 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: an often overlooked guy at at corner, but he's been 78 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: with the Ones basically since the since the O. T. A. 79 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: S has begun largely in the slot. Gets an interception 80 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: on one of the first places in eleven on eleven's 81 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: and he's also I think another guy that benefits from 82 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: the pads being on. He likes to get physical with receivers. 83 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: I think when you have the pads on, you can 84 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: get away with a little bit more than when you're 85 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: just in the jerseys out there. He plays his best 86 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: against bigger receivers. We saw what he did against Julio 87 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: Jones last year against the Falcons. I I just think 88 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: this kind of environment benefits him. And I think when 89 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: we talk about this Greedy Williams Terrence Mitchell competition, it's 90 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: almost overlooked that t J. Kerry is a likely starting 91 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: cornerback on this team, and you're kind of figuring out 92 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: everything else. But no matter what happens, if Greedy Williams 93 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: is fighting Terrence Mitchell for a job, then you've got 94 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: four corners you can rely on, and I think t J. 95 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: Carry is one of them. Yeah. I think that's the 96 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: exciting point that you take away from that is that 97 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: you have four very solid corners and and it was 98 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: a really good day from t J, who had had, 99 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, a kind of rough couple of days. That 100 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: was exciting. But my guy, my my game ball guy 101 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: is gonna be h Blake Jackson, who uh found some spaces. 102 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: You know, you talked about it earlier. The second and 103 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: third team, you know, maybe made some plays with Blake 104 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: Jackson was a star of the second team. He was 105 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: a frequent target UM and he did really well against 106 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: Jovont Dean a few times in one on one situations 107 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: where Dean was all over him and he still made 108 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: the grabs or he made some grabs in tight spaces. 109 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: Juche guy out that kind of thing, had caught a 110 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: ton of balls today and looked really good. Uh in 111 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: those sessions. Damon shehy Giuseppe to follow up on the 112 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: Blake Jackson train. Uh So, a couple of wide receivers 113 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: in the back of that room competing for those last 114 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: few spots that we've talked about it both in the 115 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: in the training camp preview and the last two days 116 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: that that battle seems to me maybe the best battle 117 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: going on right now here in training camp. Guys really 118 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: competing for spots. And Giuseppe had had another nice day 119 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: today and well here from Freddie later on on both 120 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: Jackson and Giuseppe and the contributions that they made so far. 121 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: But I thought, I think he's had a nice day, 122 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: and right up there though, I don't want to short 123 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: change carry because I think t J has had a 124 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: really good I think you got a better camp than 125 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: maybe we think, at least I would tend to disagree 126 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: that he's had just that he's been a little off. 127 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: I think he's been pretty solid. And I thought that, 128 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, all three game balls today worthy participants to 129 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: say that I was throwing a Donald runch and it's 130 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: no wide receiver at that Derek Willy's has looked really 131 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: good the last two days and he made he made 132 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of place today as well. And I think 133 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: that he's got that the size that has maybe missing 134 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: in that wide receiver's room. If you're looking for advantages 135 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: to give to certain players, there's no one that's built 136 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: like Willie's in that room right now. On your point 137 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: about she he Uh, it seems like his story is 138 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: starting to I'm a favorite among the fans. Perhaps believe 139 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: I did market I had that, Uh perhaps a modern 140 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: day Ben gay um or or somebody like that. Uh, 141 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's he's popular with the fans. The metrics 142 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: even show, you know, our traffic is up on those stories, 143 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: which is crazy because the story was hellish. People keep going. 144 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: It was the number four red story on our website 145 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: on Thursday, but first day I camp. Yes, yeah, people 146 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: are are retweeting my tweet from months ago related to 147 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: that story still today somebody did and you go all 148 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: the way up to change the top to ownership. They 149 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: even like how much he's how hard he's working, So 150 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, I had a nice conversation with them today 151 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: and then they are also noticing, so you know, he's 152 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: a big story. I'm gonna go back to one point, 153 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: and that is the the two Mitchel where the offense 154 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: looked really good. I overheard a fan talking about this 155 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: and it's something I've noticed basically since he's come onto 156 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: this team. But how comfortable does Baker look when the 157 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: pace is picked up? I mean, that's when he is 158 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: at his best. And that's when I wonder, is this 159 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: what we're going to see more of? Because every time 160 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: this team runs with pace, it seems like Baker is 161 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: just that much better. And because obviously he had three 162 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: two wide receivers make three great catches on that drive, 163 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: but the throws were perfect on each one of those. 164 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: He's decisive, He's quicker with his decisions, for sure. I'm 165 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: watching that series with Jim Donovan on the sideline and 166 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: neither one of us said a word and it got done, 167 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: and we looked at each other, and he was like, 168 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: so that's how this is going to be this year, 169 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: And I said, I wouldn't mind that if we went 170 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: up and down three plays yards seconds. If that not 171 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: at all, not a problem at all, that's your scoring recap. 172 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: It really like it was a reality check too once 173 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: the second and third team offenses came in because they 174 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: struggled and they couldn't eat the ball very far on 175 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: the field, and then you go back and you're like, Wow, 176 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: they moved it with such ease. I mean, that's the 177 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: potential of this offense. It's very exciting. Yeah, And there 178 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: were moments where, you know, we saw Baker get a 179 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: little upset with some of his wide receivers and at 180 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: times looked a little off. But then there's that series 181 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: and it's just like click click boom, and you're like, oh, okay, well, 182 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: maybe he's just working on some things on his own 183 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: because he knows what he has to do well. That 184 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: back to back days, the two most competitive moments of practice, 185 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: he's been at his best. That that final play on 186 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: Fridays practice was perfectly executed. So I mean he has 187 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: a gamer, clearly. Last year he practiced really well too. 188 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: He's been practicing very well this year, but the accuracy 189 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: just gets a little bit better when something's on the line, 190 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: it seems like. So a few injuries of note today, Uh, 191 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: you know, Duke Johnson out with a little soft tissue, uh, 192 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: and you know, we'll kind of wait and see how 193 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: that plays out. A few other guys dinged up, you know, 194 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: rat Lee missing some valuable time right now with the 195 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: way the other wide receivers in the room are playing, 196 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: missing some time, and unfortunately this is the nature of 197 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: the business, Uh, losing some ground I think in that 198 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: battle for that position. I think he was in a 199 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: good spot before, but it just depends on how long 200 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: he's going to be out. I think if he's back soon, 201 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: I think he'll be all right. I think he's got 202 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: a really good shot to make the team. But if 203 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: you miss a few weeks, that can that can really 204 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: put you behind. And I think we'll know the severity 205 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: of some of these running back injuries based on if 206 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: there's a roster move or not. Usually usually don't go 207 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: back to back days of camp without three running backs. 208 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: So I mean this this could mean we're we're seeing 209 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: potentially Kareem Hunt back by Monday, Potentially Duke is back 210 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: by Sunday or Monday. I think Freddy called him a 211 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: quick healer, so that that might mean something that it's 212 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: not too serious. So I would expect either a new 213 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: face added that room or one of these three guys 214 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: that are out either back tomorrow or Monday. Sounds like 215 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: a superpower being a quick healer. Indeed, I wish I 216 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: had that ability. I certainly do not. Definitely. I know 217 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: for effect, because you and I both walked over during 218 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: the seven on seven period. I got a little board 219 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: watching that, and I saw that the offensive lineman we're 220 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: going against the defensive linemen. Uh. You being the lineman 221 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: aficionado and resident hog Molly ran around the field your 222 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: biggest Yes, I saw you running. I was not running. 223 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: It was hot. I did make my way over there, though. 224 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: Your takeaways from what you saw today with those guys, uh, 225 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: you know, it was really fun to just see them 226 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: in pads. First off, you get what you expect from 227 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: from Joel Batonio. From a JC treader, Chris Hubbard, I 228 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I realized last year. Has has really 229 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: sweet feet. You know, he's lighter on his feet than 230 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: you'd anticipate, And I think that really helps amount of times. 231 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: I thought Kendall Lamb looked better today than he did yesterday. 232 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: I think putting the pads on definitely helps him because 233 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: he's a bigger guy. He's he's a more physical guy. Um. 234 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: Eric Cush has had a really good day just all around, team, 235 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: group and individual. He was very good all day and 236 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: some good dance moves when they put the music on period. Yes, definitely. Uh. 237 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: Kyle Kalis is a very stout guy. You can just 238 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: see his strength in the way that his body, the 239 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: way his legs are bent, and and the shape he 240 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: takes from the side and how he gets into somebody 241 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: and just kind of owns that he's very strong. Um. 242 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: There were some mistakes that he made throughout the day, 243 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: but he was very strong. I think Austin Corbett looks 244 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: pretty good. Greg Robinson from the team earlier team section 245 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: to then the one on ones against because he had 246 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett matched up with him all day and let's 247 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: face it, I think nine percent of people on Earth 248 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: are going to struggle against Miles Garrett. So this is 249 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: no knock on Greg, but there were times where he 250 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: got beat by Miles in those team groups and those 251 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: teams and UH and group sessions. The one on ones 252 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: he was much better and that was really encouraging to 253 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: see because he's a big guy and if he gets 254 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: his feet moving correctly, he can do it. He can 255 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: protect against pretty much anybody, and he did pretty well 256 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: in that session. Yeah, I think the other you know, 257 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: today was Cush's day at the guard spot. You've seen Cush, 258 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: you've seen Corbett, and you've seen Kyless. So tomorrow do 259 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: we see Corbett again or according to that rotation, yeah, 260 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: it should go back to Corbett and then should see 261 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: Kless next thing to Cush again. But if I had 262 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: to pick a starter right now, and this I don't 263 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: think this is really surprise anybody. If I had to 264 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: pick somebody to start it right guard today, which we 265 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: thankfully don't have to do, I would pick Eric Cush. 266 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's he's It's not one where you're gonna 267 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: sit back and go wow, I've got a sizeable lead. 268 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: But he has definitely been the best player at that position, 269 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: and that should be expected. He's got experience in the league, 270 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: he's been through many camps, and he's a big dude 271 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: and he's strong and he takes it seriously, So that's 272 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: not a huge surprise. UM. I think Corbett he had 273 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: a couple of nice blocks. There was one period, I 274 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: think it was he was either team or inside running 275 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: a group session where uh they had a double team 276 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: which they had worked on an individual start the day. 277 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: They did a little bit of a double team on 278 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: a three technique and Corbett chipped off in side and 279 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: basically what they did was they ran. They ran the 280 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: ball on the right side and Corvette and and the 281 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: tackle he was playing with I believe it was I 282 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: don't know who's playing right tackle. That might have been 283 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: kindled hm. They double team and the Corvette chipped off 284 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: inside and sealed the second level defender who was coming 285 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: to fill that hole and created a nice little lane 286 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: and Dontrell Hilliard went right through about sixty eight yards 287 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. And it was probably a play that 288 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: didn't resonate with anybody because it was just about to 289 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: touchdown in in training camp or whatever, and it wasn't 290 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: from a long distance. But when I saw that, I 291 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: was like, that's great, because I just sat and watched 292 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: them ten minutes prior go through every single scenario in 293 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: which you've got to I mean, they did multiple drills, 294 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: one where they were passing guys off as if they 295 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: were facing blizzes, and another one where they were working 296 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: on double teams and chip it off. But they were 297 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: coming from a wide range because you gotta use your 298 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: peripheral vision in those situations, and and his vision is great, 299 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: and his ability to quickly decide to target that guy 300 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: and then execute that block was really good. So that 301 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: was encouraging to see. That's a look at what happened 302 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: on day number three here in Pads in Barria and 303 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: training camp. We get ready four day number four tomorrow. 304 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a hot one yet again. I'm Jason Gibbs, 305 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: he's Andrew Gribble, he's Nick Shook to the right of me, 306 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: and coming up on the show, you will hear from 307 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: head coach Freddie Kitchens. You'll hear from Brown's safety Germaine Whitehead. 308 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: We'll tell you what to watch for in tomorrow's practice 309 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: Right now, though, in our interview segment of the day, 310 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: our own Andrew Gribble had a chance to sit down 311 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: with former Brown's quarterback and now News five analysts for 312 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: our preseason games on TV, Tim Couch. Alright, Tim just 313 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: first off, what's it like being back for kind of 314 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: a second consecutive year and and maybe what's the biggest 315 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: difference you've seen from what you saw last year to 316 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: what you saw these past couple of days. Well, it's 317 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: great to be back for another year and be around 318 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: the team again. And you know, just the obvious thing 319 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: that jumps out at you is just, you know, just 320 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: the hype around this football team. And you know, rightfully so, 321 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: just the talent that they brought in, uh during the 322 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: off season, and just the way they finished the season 323 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: last year. There's so much optimism for the upcoming season 324 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: and what this team can can possibly accomplish. And um, 325 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: it's just you know, just a lot of hype, a 326 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: lot of fun right now and uh, they look good 327 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: so far in training camp. How much can a player 328 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: like Odell back and out Baker may feel out there, Well, 329 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: it's a it's a difference maker. You know, he's one 330 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: of the biggest weapons in the entire National Football League 331 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: and you get a guy like that, he's uh, you know, 332 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: he just dictates, dictates coverage a lot. You know, it 333 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: helps it. He makes the reason easier for a quarterback 334 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: because Odell is gonna get coverage rolled to his side 335 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: quite a bit. He's gonna get double team, which frees 336 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: up guys like Jarvis Slander and Richard Higgins and uh 337 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: some gutt in callaway guys like that, you know, they 338 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: can get some single coverage on the outside and just 339 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: it just helps a quarterback quite a bit. And then 340 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: you also have a guy that you know, if you 341 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: get one on one coverage with Odell and uh, there's 342 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: really no read to it. You just you know, you 343 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: go back and throw the ball Odell and let him 344 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: make a play for you. So it's a it's a 345 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: big time player, a difference maker, and uh, I can't 346 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: wait to see him played together. Is it a challenge 347 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: for Baker to not have to try to throw it 348 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: too much to Adell because it seems like he can 349 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: be a security blanket out there. Well, absolutely, that's one 350 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: of the things you have to guard against when you 351 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: have a guy like O'Dell who you want to get 352 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: the football too as many times as possible throughout the 353 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: football game, that you have to guard against forcing it 354 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: to him, you know, because the defense they're going to 355 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: try and take Odell away and make other players beat you. 356 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: So you have to be disciplined when you try to 357 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: get him to the foot ball and how you get 358 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: him to football, and it's it's one of those things 359 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: that Baker have to work through. The season goes on. 360 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: What's the there's always the talk about the sophomore slump 361 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: for quarterbacks? What what what goes into that? From from 362 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: what you experienced? And how does how does he want 363 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: to avoid that? Well, I think you just have to 364 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: learn from uh, you know, the year before, you know, 365 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: gain you know, gain the experience that you know, he 366 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: got to play a lot last year. He played really well, 367 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: especially towards the end of the year, and just kind 368 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: of take, you know, just try to build off that 369 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: momentum and realize why he was playing so well towards 370 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: the end of the year and why he felt so 371 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: comfortable and and those kind of things and just try 372 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: to build on that. And you know, I don't think 373 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: there's really going to be a sophomore slump for Baker. 374 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't see that at all, just because of you know, 375 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: the talent and the pieces they put in place around him. 376 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: I think John Dorsey has done a unbelievable job of 377 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: building this roster for Baker. To go out and have success. 378 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's, uh, he can rely on his running game. 379 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: He's got all these great weapons around him to get 380 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: the ball to and the Joe Kub, Duke Johnson, now 381 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: the backfield Chub you know Baker, I mean Odell and Jarvis, 382 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: all these guys that he can just get the football 383 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: to get out of his hand quick and let him 384 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: go make a play for him. How different is it 385 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: for a quarterback coming into his second can training camp 386 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: has compared to that first thing when you're at spending 387 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: that well, it's a big difference. You know, that first 388 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: camp you're really just trying to get the play called 389 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: in the huddle and I just kind of spit it 390 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: out and not mess up and just try to you know. 391 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: And so so your head is really spending, and you know, 392 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: year two, you really come in with a lot of 393 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: confidence and uh you know, a lot of a lot 394 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: of composure and you understand kind of what to expect 395 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: from the season, what to expect from training camp. And 396 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's year two of this system for Baker, 397 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: so he knows it really well. And uh so he 398 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: certainly looks and feels more comfortable out on the field 399 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: and I'm sure he'll uh translate into more yards and touchdowns. 400 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: What was the one thing you like that he did 401 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: best last year? You know, the biggest thing I like 402 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: about Baker's game is the way he anticipates throws. Um. 403 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: You know, I think for a young quarterback, a rookie 404 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: quarterback starting in the NFL, one of the biggest things, uh, 405 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: that's it's hard to learn is anticipating the throws and 406 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: throwing guys open. You know, a lot of young quarterbacks 407 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: want to see the receiver come out of around kind 408 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: of seeing break open instead of anticipating and thought it 409 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: to a spot and make sure that and let the 410 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: receiver get out there and get it. And Baker really 411 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: anticipates throws well, he doesn't hesitate. He's very sure of himself. 412 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: He believes and what he's seeing and what he's reading 413 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: from the defense, and he just gets back there and 414 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: lets it go. Man eight as a football with a 415 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: lot of confidence and conviction. And I think that's that's 416 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: pretty rare for our young quarterback. We see the offense 417 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: and defense john with each other back and forth, and 418 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: during training camp, just going back to your playing days, 419 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: how much was that going on in in August. And 420 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: how does it change when you guys kind of come 421 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: together and stop playing against each other. Yeah, it goes 422 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: on a lot. You know during training camp, you know 423 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: you're just sick of each other. You know, you've been 424 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: competing against each other, you know, throughout O t A 425 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: s and mini camps and then you know in training 426 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: camp you just really want to see another you know, 427 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: compete against someone else a different color jersey. And it's, uh, 428 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: it's funny how you kind of can't stand these guys 429 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: and you know in the locker room you're sick of 430 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: competing against him. As soon as another jersey comes out 431 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: on the field, you guys just bond together and and um, 432 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: you know realize you've made each other better with all 433 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: the competition that you've been through throughout the offseason and 434 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 1: training camp. So it's a it's a unique experience. And uh, 435 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: but but there certainly is that wall you hit where 436 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: you're just you're just dying to play another team. What 437 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: what's the one thing this team needs to do to 438 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: get to where it wants to be this season. Well, 439 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: they just have to go and take care of business. 440 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: You know. The talent level is there, Um, the pieces 441 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: are in place, so they just have to go out 442 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: and do it. They you know, just go out and 443 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: do what everyone expects him to do. Baker has to 444 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: play at the level everyone expects him to play at 445 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: and and take a step forward from where he was 446 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: last year. And uh, you know there's the defense. You 447 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: know obviously has to step up. You know, they struggled 448 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: at times last year, but they brought him some new guys. 449 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: The front four on defense is just gonna be you know, nasty. 450 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm not playing against those guys, but um, 451 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, they just have to go and take care 452 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: of business. Really great stuff from Tim Couch Gribbs. Outstanding 453 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: work by you. Biggest takeaway for from the Browns former 454 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: quarterback on what he saw here. Well, you know, it's 455 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: interesting because I remember talking with Tim Couch at this 456 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: time last year, and I remember his his advice was 457 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: at the time was like, let's give Baker the time 458 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 1: he needs. He was on board with the Tyrode Taylor 459 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: uh plan. And then I think now though, he saw 460 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: what Baker can do and his insight on him and 461 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: really kind of pinpointing what he does well. And on 462 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 1: top of that, understanding that this supporting cast around Baker 463 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: is a little different than the one Tim Couch had 464 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: around him during a little during his few years here 465 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. And I think that that all can can 466 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: help kind of surround and create a situation where you 467 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: have a second year quarterback poised for a lot of 468 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: success for you for years to come here. And I 469 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: think Couch provides kind of an interesting perspective because he 470 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: went through all the hype, but he went through some 471 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: adversity too, and I think Baker's got some adversity coming 472 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: his way as well. I mean, it's it's early in 473 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: his career, but you know, it's just a it's a 474 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: good perspective and a great day where you have Brian's pype, 475 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: Tim Couch, and Baker Mayfield taking photos together on the field, 476 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: three generations of Brown's quarterbacks right there. Like a great 477 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: moment for Brown's history. But you know, I think that 478 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: the way that a team should go about whether or 479 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: not they play their rookie quarterback there high pick earlier 480 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: if they sit him, I think it should always be 481 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: a case by case basis, and I tend to lean 482 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: towards sitting him more the more often than not primarily 483 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: because I think out of the majority of quarterbacks or 484 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: really athletes, you're going the lesser percentage is going to 485 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: be the type with Baker Mayfield's disposition, which is they're 486 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: the type of it rises to the occasion in the 487 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: face of adversity. I think more often than not, especially 488 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: now in the era of specialization and and all these 489 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: camps and everything else else that these kids go to 490 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: now is a lot of these young kids are groomed 491 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: to be quarterbacks from a young age, whether it's their 492 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: parents or whoever else, and they don't necessarily have what 493 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: it takes to overcome such adversity. Whereas Baker was a 494 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: guy who had to walk onto the school that he 495 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: won a Heisman Trophy at, among other things. He went 496 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: to a program that was on the rise and in 497 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: becoming one of the great national powers, especially one of 498 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: the powers in Texas. When he was in high school, 499 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: he had to walk in the footsteps of Garrett Gilbert, 500 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: who was a five star recruiting the Gatory national player 501 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: of the year. So he's had to deal with both expectation, adversity, 502 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: and overcoming obstacles because people never thought that he was 503 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: tall enough or he was good enough to play that position. 504 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: So in relation to that, I think that more often 505 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: than not, you get the guys who don't have that 506 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: experience and can't necessarily play right away or succeed, whereas 507 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Baker does have that. So it's definitely interesting to to 508 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: hear a different perspective from a guy like Tim Couch 509 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: who came in with those expectations, didn't necessarily find the success, 510 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: but also, like you said, wasn't equipped for to to 511 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: have that success when he came here with the Browns. 512 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: I think that Tim Couch would like just two of 513 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: our offensive lineman, yeah, much less a whole offensive line, 514 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: and probably three or four more playmate would be outside 515 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: of Kevin Johnson. Yeah, Kevin Johnson would be on this team. 516 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: I would imagine he would enjoy having Richard Higgins next 517 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: to Kevin Johnson. That's the first name that I was thinking. 518 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: Great job by you, GRIBs, and appreciate Tim Couch's expertise 519 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: on things will We're talking to him more throughout training camp. 520 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: Right now, time to get into our sound bites of 521 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: the day. The first one the safety of the Cleveland Browns. 522 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: Jermaine Whitehead on how he's been able to create this 523 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: safety spot for him, the starting spot and the work 524 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: that went in to creating that safety starting spot. This 525 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: is a defense of coach LUs Ran before h he 526 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: was Shack Thompson in it. He Bluda Baker in it. 527 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: So I mean he was looking for another stage that 528 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: could fit into the roles. And you know, after watching 529 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: the film and I figure out, you know, that's probably 530 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: my quickly wall on the field on the field, so 531 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: I found out what to do in that role. And 532 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, they've been trying to progress ever since. White 533 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: had a fascinating guy that really has come on the 534 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: scene at O T A S and Mini camp and 535 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: continue to play at a pretty high level here through 536 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: these first three days of training camp. Yeah, I want 537 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: to get John Dorsey on the in a chair, give 538 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: him the truth term and I want to know, did 539 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: you know that this was the potential of this guy 540 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: when you made a waiver claim for him midway through 541 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: last season, Because it's just like it just happens where 542 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: he plays special teams the rest of the season and 543 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden we come to t S 544 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: and there he is at the first team and everyone's 545 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: talking about how great of a leader he is, and 546 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: it's as if like we just blinked and he became 547 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: a starter on this defense. It's it's crazy how that's happened. 548 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: I am of the school of thought that of the 549 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: moves that John Dorsey aches cent are ones that he 550 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: sees or four seas and our luck, and I think 551 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: that's true of any good GM And I do think 552 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: that he saw this coming because Jermaine Whitehead was a 553 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: contributor for the Packers before they suddenly cut ties with him, 554 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: and they primarily cut ties with him because of an ejection. 555 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: You know, he was ejected from a mid season game 556 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: for getting into a fight basically, and it was a 557 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: tumultuous year for the Packers in general, and they just 558 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 1: didn't have the appetite for that. But he's a good 559 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: football player. I mean, there's a reason that they claimed 560 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: that the Browns claimed him and and so so quickly. 561 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: So I'm surprised, though, I'm very surprised that that he's 562 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: doing this, And I think that the addition of Steve 563 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: Wilkes as the defensive coordinator also really created an avenue 564 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: for Jermaine to have this opportunity because I'm not sure 565 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: he would have had it had you not had a 566 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator who likes to go with the three safety looking, 567 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: really likes to utilize a lot of different guys in 568 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: different positions, which I think bodes well for the type 569 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: of player who Jermaine is and and so far, I 570 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: was half expecting that maybe we would see a shuffling 571 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: of safeties at this point in camp, and and we 572 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: haven't seen the opposite. So it's it's it's continued on 573 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: the this path, and it's it's really interesting to watch. 574 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: And it hasn't been a shortage of place like Eric 575 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: Murray with the pick six today to wrap up practice. 576 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean it, there are guys out there making plays, 577 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: but Whitehead just remains consistent and steady. It's gonna be 578 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: one of those interesting roster decisions once we get to 579 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: the end of camp in the end of the preseason. 580 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: Is is how many safeties do they keep? How many 581 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: cornerbacks do they keep? And because they like to go 582 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: with this three safety look, so often do you exchange 583 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: a cornerback slot for a safety slot to keep somebody? 584 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: Because it seems like right now they're gonna have a 585 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: tough time saying goodbye to any of those five guys 586 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: they have in the position right now, We've got a 587 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: long way to go. A lot of things usually sort 588 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: themselves out, but right now, that's gonna be a tough call. 589 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, they based on how you're playing defense. 590 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: I think you gotta go with five safeties, you know, 591 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: And that's not necessarily a bad thing because you've got 592 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: the horses up front right now. Alright. Cut number two. 593 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens today on two guys that we've already talked 594 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: about quite a bit in Blake Jackson and Damon Sheehy. 595 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: Just happy some interesting things from him on those two guys, 596 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: but then also what he calls exposure and being exposed, 597 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: just their willingness to get better and and continue to 598 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: learn and and take reps um. And I'll tell you 599 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 1: something about those two guys. You better be in there 600 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: in the huddle or they're gonna jump in and get 601 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: you repped. So you know, that's why I like that 602 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I like people that want to I 603 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: like people that strive to get extra attention. Um. Because 604 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, especially during this time of year, 605 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: you're either going to get exposed or you're gonna get exposure, 606 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 1: and I think you'd much rather have exposure than getting exposed, 607 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: because getting exposed, I mean, you're probably not gonna be 608 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: here when the calendar turns to September. Freddie Kitchens really 609 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: pretty high on the back end guys, especially Jackson and Giuseppe, 610 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: and they're they're pushing some of those guys in the 611 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: middle of that room for some playing time. And he 612 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: said it himself, be careful, you better be in the 613 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: huddle or they're gonna hop in and take your up. 614 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: I think Freddie really appreciates hard workers more than anything, 615 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: Guys who are showing that not only will they be 616 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: there on time and in the right place at the 617 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: right time, they're gonna put in the extra effort to 618 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: really get better at this job because they know that 619 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: their window of opportunity is smaller than the average player 620 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: because of the back end of the roster guy, and 621 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna go out there and leave it all in 622 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: the field every single day. And so far, we've seen 623 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: that out of Sheehy where you've seen it out of 624 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: Blake Jackson. And the funny thing too, is like when 625 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: you when you sit back and watch these guys, an 626 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: individual and and you see Baker throwing passes and everybody. 627 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: You see O'Dell and you see Jarvis and they have 628 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: their visors on and they're they're all geared out, and 629 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: you can tell, okay, I know, you know who these 630 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: guys are walking up before you even look at their 631 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: jersey number. And then you see another guy with a 632 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: visor and you watch a runner arounte and catch a 633 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: pass and you're like, wow, that's a nice catch. Who 634 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: is that. That's not thirteen, that's that's twelve. That's Blake Jackson. 635 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: He wow, Okay, that's kind of the day he had 636 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: today and the impression he started to make uh in 637 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: the early parts of this camp so far. So it's 638 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: it's definitely uh, it's fun to watch it. It'll be 639 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: another intriguing plot line is to go forward. I always 640 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: keep my eyes on guys like Blake Jackson when it 641 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: comes to final spots on rosters because there's clearly something 642 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: they like about him because he didn't make the team 643 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: last year, but it was on the practice squad the 644 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: majority of last year, hanging around just still on the team, 645 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: and we always watched to see who's gonna who can 646 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: stay on the practice squad for the entire year if 647 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: they don't get Yeah, and it's tough and it's kind 648 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: of hard to do, I mean, because there's so many 649 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: moving pieces. You're bringing guys on practice squad because of 650 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: injury reasons and things of that nature. But you know, 651 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: Blake Jackson has been here since last year's training camp, 652 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: so he's he's been here a while. Uh, and there's 653 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: something they've seen him and I think he is in 654 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: the mix certainly for for that fifth or six spot 655 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: in that round. And there's some kind of chemistry with 656 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: him and Baker, like they spent some time together in 657 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: this offseason. Like you you'd see Baker, Baker would post 658 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: a picture or one of the other wide receivers, they'd 659 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: all be hanging out. There was Blake Jackson in the 660 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: middle of that. And that's that's kind of how Hollywood 661 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: has resurrected his career a little bit, you know, getting 662 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: in and forming that camaraderie and that chemistry with Baker Mayfield, 663 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: and it's elevated his game to the point where he's 664 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: with the first team right now. Yeah. I mean, it's 665 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: it's interesting to to look at the company that guys 666 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: keep and they always say, um, you are who who 667 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: the people you surround yourself with are. I mean, that's 668 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: basically how you're defined. I would imagine if you're hanging 669 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: out with Baker Mayfield and drivers l Injury and now 670 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham and Richard Higgins and those guys, that's that's 671 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: pretty good company. And you're gonna raise your own standard 672 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: over time, and maybe we're starting to see the effects 673 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: of that payoff right now. Alright. Final one from Freddie Kitchens. Uh, 674 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: it was an interesting one that stood out to me today. 675 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: And why is it important to you that there's a 676 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: difference between being dressed and being on the bike? Their 677 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: teammates say them open on a bike. I mean, it's like, 678 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. I don't I've never 679 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: understood that, So I don't want to get into that. 680 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: That was last year. This is my philosophy. And somebody's 681 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: gonna think I'm an idiot, all right, But I don't 682 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: really care, all right, So I'm not gonna change how 683 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: I feel because of what somebody else says, what somebody 684 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: else does, or what somebody else thinks of me or 685 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: thinks how I'm running at the shield. You know, it's 686 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: that's what I decided to do because I think it 687 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: builds teamness and togetherness, and I think we've got to 688 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: be together before we do anything. I've said that from 689 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: the very beginning. And uh, I think if you've got 690 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: some guys over there on the bike, um that can 691 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: practice all right, Uh, they need to go through individual period, 692 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: they need to go over they need to stand by 693 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: their coach in their uniform with their helmet ready to 694 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: listen and learn and teach the other guys. Morgan Berness 695 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: in his legal long time, he knows what's going on. So, um, 696 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, that's just my philosophy. I just think they 697 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: need to be a part of their part of the team, 698 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 1: So be a part of the team. So obviously this 699 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: goes back to last year, and he said he didn't 700 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: want to talk about it. We're not going to dwell 701 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: on last year. But clearly we're not seeing as many 702 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: guys on the bike. We're seeing guys dressed. Even when 703 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: they maybe have a day off, it's not really a 704 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: day off. It's maybe less plays in the eleven on eleven's, 705 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: but going through all of your individual drills and getting 706 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: that stuff done, and even the injured guys, I feel 707 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,479 Speaker 1: like are around a little bit more than than in 708 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: the past. I mean, they do their beginning of practice 709 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: stuff when everyone else is stretching, but you know they're 710 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: they're around a lot more. They're standing around, even if 711 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: they may not want to be. I mean it's hot 712 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: out there, they're not doing anything, they're not playing. It 713 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: might be tougher than to watch, but but they're all 714 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: those running backs who have been out there standing right 715 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: along everyone else. So again, I like the I like 716 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: even the self awareness that Kitchens has though, because it's 717 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: it's like a natural instinct, Like he says, like eventually 718 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: someone's gonna call me an idiot, because it's like everywhere 719 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: you go in the NFL, whenever there's the next coach, 720 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: and there's like a way of doing things differently. You like, 721 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: look at the past is like the way you shouldn't 722 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: have done things. And I think, like, obviously that's he 723 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: understands that, but you know it's it's just his style 724 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: and that's that's what it's gonna be with him here. Yeah. 725 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: I think it's funny because even this goes back to 726 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: Mini camp and O t A is like Jarvis Landry 727 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: sat out, but he was there in his jersey and 728 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: his hat and on the sideline everything. And I thought 729 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: at the time it was a little bit interesting, just 730 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: because you don't necessarily see that all the time, but 731 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: it it also seems natural. I mean, if you're gonna 732 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: miss practice but you're able to still be there with 733 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 1: their teammates, you should be there. You should be with 734 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: them on the sideline. You should be involved in not 735 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: just maybe even in the huddle actually just not playing, 736 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: but everything else you could possibly do. And yet, if 737 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: you think about it from the larger picture, a lot 738 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: of teams have not operated this way for many years. 739 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: The bike thing is kind of a normal thing, at 740 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: least in some camps. And and then you start to think, well, 741 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: what's the logic behind that? You know, why why is 742 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: that guy over there on the bike other they keep 743 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: his legs warm. You want to just have some active rest, 744 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: even though he's injured right now, It doesn't necessarily make 745 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: sense that the treatment thing makes sense. So it was 746 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: encouraging to see Kareem standing there right next to the 747 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: rest of the running backs and Duke as well. You know, 748 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: these guys leg wrapped, but he's right there talking with 749 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: them as well, and it's I think it's really good. 750 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: It's positive because you do have to build that team. 751 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: There are so many new faces here. Those guys have 752 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: to spend time together. I mean, you even looked. I 753 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: looked over the sideline today and Demitriz Harris is on 754 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: a knee and who's he talking to? Kareem Hunt? How 755 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: do they know each other? They were both in Kansas 756 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: City last year. I mean, they're gonna talk to the 757 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: guys who are familiar, but eventually you have to branch 758 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: out beyond that because you got a strengthen the fabric 759 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: of this team. They're gonna go through a lot of 760 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: adversity this year and they're gonna have a lot of 761 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: eyes on them and they need to stick together as 762 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: one if they're gonna make it through. All right, guys, 763 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: what to watch for Day four tomorrow? We're going five 764 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: days in a row before we get our first day 765 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: off on Tuesday. What can we expect to see tomorrow? 766 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to seeing tomorrow? I'm stealing 767 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: his thunder. I'm going offensive line. Austin Corbett. Big day 768 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: for him, huge day, firm. You gotta be this is this, 769 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: this is We've all been talking about you know, the competition. 770 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: We'll start in the pad on. This is the competition, 771 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: and I think with offensive line chemistry you're on an 772 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: expedited timetable. So this these are the big days in 773 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: this competition right now. The pressure is on. I think 774 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: today put a little bit of pressure on whoever wants 775 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: to win that job because I think the and I 776 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: think John Dorsey knew this when he made this signing. 777 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: But I think the Browns would be okay if they 778 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: played Eric Kusher right guard to start the season and 779 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: the need is lessened. And I think the pressure is 780 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: on Kyle Kalis and Austin Corbette to take a lead 781 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 1: in in in today. You know, Kaylis played backup center 782 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: with the second team and he had to take a 783 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: trip down to the fence and back because he had 784 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: a false start. Brad Seaton had to do that as well. 785 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: You know, we learned today that that's the form of 786 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: punishment for guys who fall start is uh, you know, 787 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: gets your tail down to the fence and back. Yeah, 788 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: you know fifty yards would ever get down there and 789 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: get back. Um. But I think my big thing I 790 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: want to see tomorrow is the play of Siena Taki 791 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: taki because um, Jermaine Whitehead today and his pressure talked 792 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: about how well uh takie talkie played. I think you 793 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: know actually was I'm sorry it was Greedy Williams, fellow rookie, 794 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: Greedy Williams, who had said, you know, yeah, he goes 795 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: a million miles an hour and now stop. And he 796 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: even talked about just wait until we put the pads on, 797 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a different player, just wait, just wait, 798 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: and he said he had a really good practice today. 799 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: So I didn't get to see a whole lot of it. 800 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: I did hear him shout with joy very early in 801 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: one of the team sessions after making a play, and 802 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: he's a guy of flats around the field. I've been 803 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: looking forward to watching him already, So I'm gonna try 804 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: and pay a closer attention to him tomorrow and see 805 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: what kind of you know, a place he can make 806 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: out in the field. And also, uh, do we see 807 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: the defensive line game a little bit of ground tomorrow 808 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: because I think they lost a little bit today, just 809 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: a little bit because with the paths coming on. I 810 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: love to always watch that fight back and forth as 811 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: a unit versus another another unit and how well they 812 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: can pressure the offense and see if they can continue 813 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: to make Baker Mayfield. I'm looking forward to seeing if 814 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: the defense can shut down the offense at the end 815 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: of practice. Yeah, they did. They did have the pick 816 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: six today, but first team went right down the field 817 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: on three plays and scored. And the day before on 818 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: the last play where we brought both first teams out 819 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: Baker with a touchdown in the joku, I would expect 820 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: that to happen again tomorrow. Can the defense rise to 821 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: the occasion the session prior to that yesterday, the earlier 822 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: one where they were in the red zone, they won 823 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: that as well, So yeah, I totally agree. All right, guys, 824 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: a pleasure as always, go get some rest or just 825 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: keep working through the night, which seems to be the 826 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: theme for all of us. UH Frander Gribble for Nick Shook. 827 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Gibbs. 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