1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass, an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello, 2 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: my Little Peanuts, it's mere host Lance Bass. This is 3 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: Frosted Tests with Yeah Me, Lance Bass and my lovely 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: co host Turkey and Drew Bo. Hello. All right, Drew, 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: So we just got back from our big Florida trip. 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Well how was it? Uh? First of all, where'd you go? So? Okay, 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: So we went to Pensacola, says My family loves to 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: go to the beach and it's driving distance to Pensacola 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: and navar Like. By the way, if you've never been 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: to the Panhandle of Florida, I haven't. It is the 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: most gorgeous beaches, the whitest sand, like just the beaches 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: are beautiful. 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: It's like flower But I have always heard that in Florida. 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: Florida is the only state where you go north to 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: go to the south. 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: So there is actual city's living there, but the beaches 17 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: in the north the nicest speech. 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: I mean, you're in the redneck revie is what we 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: call it. Okay, but the most gorgeous beaches ever. I 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: used to live in Perdido, like I mean, then we 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: I grew up going there. That's what the family vacations 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: were because we couldn't, you know, afford to fly anywhere, 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: so you had to drive. And the coolest place to drive, 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, just a few hours away, was the best 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: beaches in the country. So you did Pensacola the whole family. 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but my mom to live there. Yeah, my 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: mom and dad lived there when they first got married. 28 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: She used to teach in Pensacole. Oh, I didn't know 29 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: that when they were just little children. Children's well, I 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: hope they weren't children. Well, well, I mean she was 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: like twenty, so that's that she. 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 4: Was a child. 33 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: She was younger than all of us this time speak 34 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: for yourself. But so you know, we try to get 35 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: there every summer, a lot of summers. You know what 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: they always say, if you want to book a job, 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: plan vacation, and that usually happens around this trip where 38 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: we're a week away from going to stay with my family, 39 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: and then you get this offer you can't refuse, like, okay, 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: well have fun, family, I'm not gonna meet you there. 41 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: So you had to squeeze it all in. But this 42 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: year I made it. So wait a minute, now, do 43 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: the little ones I know they're not going to the ocean. 44 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 2: But are they about the pool? 45 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: The pool? They are aesc just this summer is one 46 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: more than the other. I know they're twins. Yeah he is. 47 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: He likes to like jump in and be crazy, but 48 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: like they both love it. They both It took her 49 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: a while. 50 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: I mean it took her what two weeks to really 51 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: get comfortable not holding on to you. Now they're like 52 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: going side in their little floaties. They're just all about 53 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: their little floating things. And now they're almost out of 54 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: their floaties. Really yeah, well, yeah, we're at the end 55 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: of the summer. They're they're not gonna have float They're 56 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: gonna be That's it's our goal. So yeah, it was great. 57 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: One thing I love just hanging with the family. You 58 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: know we rent a little house. Is I could eat 59 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: so much seafood, love seafood, Like I just give me 60 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: like amazing and so every time we go down there, 61 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: we have the best stuff. Well you know that. 62 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: Actually it was when I was working on that TV 63 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: show in Miami that I first was starting. 64 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: To eat savice because there's I love savich. 65 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: So now don't try to get savice in California, because 66 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: I have done that and that is no good really well, 67 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: there's got to be some places that do. 68 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: Maybe exactly. 69 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a slurpy cavicha no, but but Miami and 70 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: in Florida always had the best cavichah. 71 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: Which is where we went after Pensacola. So we went 72 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: to Miami to see his family. Quick little flight from 73 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: Pensacola down to Miami, and it was great because we 74 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: got to see his his his new nephew, Sonny, little 75 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Sonny Fineman, the tiniest, cutest So we got to meet 76 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: the cousins for the first time. So such a blast 77 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: this year. Instead of staying with the family, because you know, 78 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: now that the kids are getting older, I feel like 79 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: we're in the way. It was like that there's four 80 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: of us, you know, that's that's a lot of people. 81 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: So we decided to, you know, get out of the 82 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: hair a little bit, although we did stay with your 83 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: sister a lot most like most of the time. Basically 84 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: we had this to put our stuff in. Where'd you 85 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: guys stay the WHI I know that w which is great, Yeah, 86 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: really great. I mean right there on the ocean. I 87 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: love Yeah, And their faces have like a little home 88 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: base for yourself. You could put all to get away 89 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: and we went out a couple of nights. That was 90 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: the best thing. So, you know, the kids pretty much 91 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: stayed with Aunt La La. 92 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: At my sister's and my my sister's husband. Scott is 93 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: currently out of town for a month, and so are 94 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 3: his two children. 95 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: My sisters tell them what Scott does. This is such 96 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 1: a great Scott. 97 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 3: He's a saint. He uh yeah, we didn't talk about 98 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: more about this. He has it's called Frontier Travel and 99 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: he plans these big trips all across the world, like 100 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: a trip with a group of really needs adults who 101 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: are mentally so adult autism are just different mental disorders somehow. 102 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: So it gives them a chance to see the world, 103 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: throw away from their parents because a lot of them 104 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: live with their parents. And so he and his uh 105 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 3: groups groups. So I mean they've been on cruises, they've 106 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 3: gone to Japan, they've been to Iceland. 107 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 1: I mean all over the world they have the best 108 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: time is a nonprofit, No, it's a business. Is business 109 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: and so and so it's like a tour group. 110 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: How you like, you know, go to a tour group 111 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: in Japan with a bunch of people. It's a tour group, 112 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: but they're all adults with certain special needs and uh yeah, 113 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: and they have the most amazing time episodes. 114 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: So he's gone, he was away away for a month 115 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah, so they have to stay with her 116 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: all the time. And then you know, we'd have a 117 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: couple of nights out with our friends, and then we 118 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: had a hotel just to crash at and don't not 119 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: have to wake up at six in the morning with 120 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: the kids. It was amazing. It was a true vacation. 121 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: That's true. They I love to hear that. I'll know 122 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: anyone listening if you've dealt with this. But you know, 123 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: we you know, we potty train in them at the 124 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: same time. And on their second birthday last October, they 125 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: were pretty potty trained. They had they knew exactly. I'm like, 126 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: this is great, how do we get them potty trained 127 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 1: in four days? Well that's not the case. My girl, 128 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: great Violet incredible. She potty trained. You know, she'll have 129 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: an accident every once in a while, but she is. 130 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 3: She has a body till even in the bathtub and 131 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 3: she has the piece she has will refused to pee 132 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: in the top and I have to take her out 133 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: put her on the top. 134 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: It is just a dainty little thing. I was like, 135 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: I don't even do that as an adult. I'm like, cold, 136 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: get out, no, no, no, no. 137 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 2: No, it's who doesn't be in the shower. On different page, 138 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, honestly, you're gonna sit in your sanitary sanitary 139 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: and jacuzzie, there's chlorine. 140 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 3: Listen, if you got a wound and you have to 141 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: clean and you have no clean water, you be on it. 142 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 5: Hello, it's it's it's I don't live fifteenth century. Okay, 143 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 5: well some of us do. But wait a minute. So 144 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 5: you were talking about the kids. Then we took a 145 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 5: left turn, so wait a minute. So great. 146 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: He kind of reverted a few months ago for most, 147 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean until the end of last year. Great. Then 148 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's like, yeah, I'm just gonna 149 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: poop my pants. Now, yeah, he's all about it, but 150 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: it almost like purposely knows. He looks at you and 151 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: you're like, are you pooping? No, And you know he's 152 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: say to them every day, so what do you do 153 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: if you have to poop? Where do you go go 154 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: to the party? 155 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: Two seconds later, it's just there, pooh. It is it 156 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: is he just one the He just doesn't care. 157 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: And a lot of boys revert. 158 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: I mean it's very common when you they revert back, like, 159 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: it's very common. That's kind of body draining. Very common, 160 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: except for a daughter because he's apparently. 161 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: Perfect, she's perfection. But yeah, I mean so airplane rides, 162 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you get to the next place and 163 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they've pooped and all up their back. 164 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't understand how it creeps up to their mid back. 165 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but it just does. You know, it's it's 166 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: not good, especially if you're landing. You can't get up 167 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: and you're just kind of sitting in it, and then 168 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: everyone around you. You're like, I am so sorry, but 169 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: that's just you. 170 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: Know, Okay, So Alexander needs to be re potty trainer? 171 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: Do they say they work it out? Like how does 172 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: that work? 173 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: They say, Look, they're not ready until they're ready, So 174 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: there's no way of forcing him. Look, we know he 175 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: knows what to do, what to do, He knows what 176 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: to do, he just doesn't want to do it. So 177 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: until he's ready, until he's like I don't want to 178 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: sit in poop, then he's not gonna do it. 179 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: He's like like him and like regular people in flossing. 180 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: You're like, I know I should, but like. 181 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. I was more thinking like he was 182 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: Heath Ledgers, the joker as he's walking away from the 183 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: hospital exploding like he doesn't care. 184 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: He does do that. 185 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: He'll look back and be like and like give you 186 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: a look, and I'm like, why did you just do that? 187 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: Was like a threat to me. 188 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, It's funny how you can just read their faces, 189 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: especially him, like he just you know, like you know 190 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: exactly what he's saying, thinking what he's about to do. 191 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: He's such a stinker literally literally like he was. He 192 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: was me. You know, I have that kid, you know 193 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: that kid that people talk about when they you know, 194 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: like kids come home from school like hey mom, blah 195 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: blah blah did this today in school? That's our kid. 196 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: He won't sit and circle. You know, every picture because 197 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: we got a yearbook, you know, at the end right 198 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: here in front of me, there's not one picture of 199 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: Alexander in circle where they have story time and they're 200 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: singing music and there's Violet having the best time. Uh huh. 201 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: Never because he is just. 202 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: Have a lot of like detentions and stuff and right, yeah, 203 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: very distract hopefully not pers the thought. 204 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he just likes it. He's a looner. He likes 205 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: his own thing. 206 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: No, he is two and a half and they just 207 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: like to explore the sit in the when you read 208 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 3: to them like a moment. 209 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: She does, he's not some have you tried reading the 210 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 2: new book that you wrote? 211 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: Scar By the Way comes out weirdly two weeks. How 212 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: the book comes out in two weeks? 213 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: Well yeah, so wait the Halloween. It's trigger treat on 214 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: Scary Street. It comes out in the summertime. 215 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: July twenty eighth, I think, so, yeah, yeah, okay, you 216 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: can pre order it. Go ahead, pre order. Let's go 217 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: ahead and make it a best seller. Guy, it'll be 218 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: nice if it was a bestseller. But it's it's so cute, 219 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: and they did the My publisher sent me about four 220 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: copies of it a couple of months ago, and it 221 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: turned out so good, the the illustrations, like everything is 222 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: it's it's exactly what I wanted this book to be. 223 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: And this is a book I've been thinking about for 224 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: years and it took forever to I mean, it took 225 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: us three years to get this published. But you know, 226 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: I've tested it out with them because they do loved 227 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, books, and they love Halloween, and of course 228 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: my kids are gonna love Halloween the goodness because you 229 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: guys love Halloween, and they every single night I have 230 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: to read them a scary book, like a Halloween book, 231 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: five Little Pumpkins, whatever it is. But then when I 232 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: finally got this book, I'm like, well, at least I 233 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: know they're going to like this obsessed. Yeah, to read 234 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: Scary Street every single night a few times. I mean 235 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: what if they didn't like it, well, it would be 236 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: the tailing and I'd be very upset awful. But they won't. 237 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: They won't let me turn the page because it's a 238 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: picture book, right, so there's like tons of things to 239 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: look at, and so they will not let me turn 240 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: the page until they find like the five clowns, how 241 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: many pumpkins, this witch, this bad They just know all 242 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: the pages now and obsessed. 243 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, I like, I like when you have like 244 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: children's books like that that do have lots of little 245 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: things to discover. 246 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: It's it's a Where's Waldo kind of thing? But yeah, 247 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean it is kind of word because we're gonna 248 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how to do this, but I do 249 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: need to come up with some kind of page that 250 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: goes with the book, because I do have ideas of 251 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: making it like a whre's waldo, you know, so it's like, okay, 252 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: page three, like can you find the d. 253 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: Maybe someone could make a little website for you, or 254 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: little web page or whatever for the book that. 255 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,479 Speaker 1: Just has websites went out in like two thousand. I'm 256 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: like my grandma. 257 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: Okayans for the book an intimate look inside Scary Street. 258 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: It's just me reading this book, like like with my 259 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: bare feet. I was going to say with just like 260 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: this is a a s m R. 261 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: I didn't know that frosted tips was actually frosted doos. 262 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: We should do a whole episode of ms R. No 263 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: I hate MSR. Is it's a s m R A 264 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: s m R? What does it mean? I hate it? 265 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: Whatever it is, it's the worst. But I also have 266 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,239 Speaker 1: that misophone misceophonia. 267 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: Well, and also every time I roll across something like 268 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 2: that on TikTok, all you hear is just spit in 269 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: people's mouths. 270 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Discuss well. On that note, should we get to our guests, 271 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: please bring the guest in. Let's take a little break, 272 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: because I think we need a break from this conversation. 273 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: When we come back, we have the one and only 274 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: Jesse McCartney on the show today. I've been wanting on 275 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: frosted Tips for like the whole first season, but now 276 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: we have them as one of our first guests on 277 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: the second season, the frosted Tips on Frosted Tips, Drew Boo, 278 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you're back with us. Nice to 279 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: be here. You know, the fans have really been asking that. 280 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: The fan has really been asking about you. The fan 281 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: has been asking and they start with who is Drew? 282 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: Why does he keep talking? No, I'm glad that that 283 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: that you're back with us, because in the first season 284 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: of the show, it was really about getting with our 285 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: favorite teen idols today and yesteryear getting to know them. Well, 286 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: second season, we've run out of teen idols. We've learned 287 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: that there's been a there's a finite amount of t 288 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: and idols right there. Uh, and so now we had 289 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: to figure out what we do and now we're just 290 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: gonna bring back our old dirty pop show. Really and 291 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: we go over pop culture news, have some of our 292 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: favorite guests back on the show, our favorite peanuts. We 293 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: have to get uh, all kinds of fun people back 294 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: in the show. We've forgotten all right for for you 295 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: peanuts out there that remember our show on Dirty Pop 296 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Which peanuts do you want? 297 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Giggles has to go back to come back. 298 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: She's made a little Justin Martin Dale. Justin Martindale is 299 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: so funny. Guys on podcast Crazy and t D. 300 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: We got Jay Dizzle, who's over there. 301 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: Okay, he was in the very beginning, you know who 302 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: I would love to get back as Wendy the Pink Princess. 303 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: The Pink Princess, she was. She was one of my favorite. 304 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: There's lots I know most people are like, who the 305 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: hell are you talking about? 306 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: We'll just guess what. They were amazing and you're gonna 307 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: hear a lot from the this season. Also this season, 308 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: we're bringing in a lot of different guest hosts because 309 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be gone a good bit and I 310 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: just can't keep this up probably every single week. So 311 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: we're bringing in our boy aj McLean from the Backs 312 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: You Boys, and he is going to host the show 313 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: a good bit. 314 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: He's so good too. I was just listening to the 315 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: episode you guys did with Brian. He can talk, he's funny. 316 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: He's what we call a ham in the business. He's 317 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: a bit of a ham, but he enjoys it and 318 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: he's really good. I just I thoroughly enjoy his hosting ability. 319 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Uh. And speaking of great guests, 320 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: we have one with us right here, excited to have 321 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: him on Frosted Tips. It's mister Jesse McCartney. Hello, Jesse. 322 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: All right, I have to do your intro and see 323 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: which of this is actually true, because sometimes they're just 324 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: not well. I would say eighty percent of the times 325 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: are not really true. We're just a little off Wikipedia. 326 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: It's like every time you do. And Jesse, I don't 327 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: know if this happens to you, but anytime you read 328 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: an article on yourself, how many times has it been 329 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: hundred percent truthful? 330 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: It's usually not not at all. 331 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: I've never read one thing and just the slightest thing, 332 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, oh, he was born here, No, 333 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't born there. Oh he was twelve, No, I 334 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: was actually thirteen. Just slight things, but they're never one 335 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: hundred percent right, never never. 336 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 4: All right, listen, I'm here to confirm. 337 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: Okay, let's Okay, I can not confirm or deny this. 338 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: We can today, all right. Jesse started out as a 339 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: stage performer and got a reoccurring role on All My Children, 340 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: which later got two Emmy nominations. Oh Emmy nominated, Brought 341 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: Her and It's Teens. He was signed to a boy band, 342 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: dream Street. We all know dream Street. They've been on 343 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: the show before. We actually got them back together. We're 344 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: gonna claim that we literally did that. We did. They 345 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: told us, they said it whispered the show that we 346 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: actually got back together and recorded more music. Thank you. 347 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: Uh So eventually got a solo deal with Hollywood Records. 348 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: A song Beautiful Soul, Oh My God, one of the 349 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: biggest songs on the planet, certified platinum, and his departure 350 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: album yielded another smash single, leaving landing him at the 351 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: every one spot on the charts. It was top forty 352 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: radios most played song of the year. That's Insane Yeah. 353 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: The next Thing of How Do You Sleep also tried 354 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: top ten the following year. Songwriting credits include the co 355 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: writing smash hit Bleeding Love Yeah, Leona Lois's Bleeding Love. 356 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 1: This Man wrote that, which was a number one hit 357 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: across thirty four countries, the only song in over a 358 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: decade to achieve this status. 359 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 3: Wait, I have a question. Who's Leona Lois? As you 360 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 3: just said, did I say Lois? 361 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: You kind of mumbled through it. I was like, I 362 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: think maybe that's a little Southern coment. Lois. 363 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: It was your twins out hard today for the record. 364 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: Well again kidding the song it's the only song to 365 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: ever do that over a decade to achieve the status. 366 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: It also won ASCAPS Song of the Year was nominated 367 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: for a Grammy. 368 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: That song was hands down like the best song for 369 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 3: year's personal favorite. 370 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Jesse tell us about one was all that correct? 371 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's correct, My gosh, ding. 372 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: And unfortunately we don't have any more time left and 373 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 2: I'm out. 374 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: Welles, I want to know, since we're talking about your writing, 375 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: when did you know that you could write? 376 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. It was definitely one of 377 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 4: those things. I certainly didn't start out as a songwriter, 378 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 4: you know. When I was signed also so young labels 379 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 4: as you know, a very apprehensive about letting their young 380 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 4: pop artists go in and write their own records. But 381 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: I just started working with a lot of really talented 382 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: songwriters who were working on my albums and learned a 383 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 4: lot from them. I would say by the time I 384 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 4: was like eighteen nineteen, I started like writing decent songs, 385 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 4: like songs that I thought were good, and then by 386 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 4: the time I was twenty, writing songs that I think 387 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 4: were valid enough for good enough to be on my 388 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 4: own albums. But I think, to be honest with you, 389 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 4: it wasn't until Bleeding Love that people really started taking 390 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 4: notice of me as a writer. And that song, too, 391 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 4: like has such a history because it was intended to 392 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 4: go on the depart your album with Leavin and how 393 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 4: Do You Sleep? And the label is a classic story 394 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 4: where the label hated it and thought it wasn't bright 395 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 4: and they were very condescending or you know, writing emails 396 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: like what is this bloody song? Like no one wants 397 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 4: to hear that? And I was bummed about it, to 398 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 4: be honest, because I thought it was a really great record. 399 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: And then Ryan Tedder was just who I wrote it with, 400 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 4: was just very resilient and just kept pitching it to 401 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 4: other artists, you know, a year two years later did 402 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 4: he pitched it and and then it fell in Leona's 403 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 4: lap and became a huge record. It was sort of 404 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 4: like and I told you so moment, but also at 405 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 4: that point I was like, okay, I'm I'm confident in 406 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 4: my writing at this point, so. 407 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: Totally and that song made her career. Oh wow. Yeah, 408 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: and Leona has actually become a good friend of ours 409 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles. We have kids the same age, 410 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: kind of like it's kind of the same parent circle. Yeah, 411 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: we have cool parents, not like the other junyear who's 412 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: going to our school this year? They're in the class. 413 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: My gosh, So if you like Brava, well you want 414 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: to go to our school. They weren't in our class 415 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: this school we're starting now, so that okay, maybe that's why. 416 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: So at orientation it was Jackson, Brittany, La, La and 417 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: rand and she and Brock. They're all going to be 418 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: in the same class kids class. 419 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: It's basically the Valley Elementary School edition or school edition, 420 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: Preschool Valley. 421 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: This is our end. This you want to be on 422 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: the Valley. I'm going to do a fun in the Valley. 423 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: I'll be as a friend of uh we love our 424 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Ryine tetor also how did you meet Ryan? 425 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 4: Ryan was a young writer as well. He had just 426 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 4: I don't even know if Apologize had come out. One 427 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 4: Republic was the new band and he, you know, he 428 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 4: was a songwriter before he you know, was the discovered 429 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 4: him again. 430 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: My mom discovered Bryan Tedder. 431 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 4: Oh really, oh wow, I hope she got some. I 432 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: hope so she got some. 433 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: Was not an entertainment. She's a teacher. 434 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 4: Oh wow. 435 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: We did this whole Uh yeah, we did this kind 436 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: of contest before American Idol count It's just like that. 437 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: And she went around the country with Robert Wilie and 438 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: all these other people and auditioned everyone. And he was 439 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: our Nashville audition and he made our show, went on 440 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: MTV and he won the whole thing. Pick. 441 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 4: I hope she hope he cut her in. 442 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: He did not. None of us are cut in. But 443 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: that's okay. We could not get him a record. Deal 444 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: of his life depended on it. Every single person was 445 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: like yeah, no, waight. So like. 446 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 4: I think I think that's why. I mean, I don't know. 447 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 4: I don't want to speak for him, but I think 448 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: Apologize was one of those songs where Timberland sort of 449 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: like put the stamp of approval on it. Yeah, it 450 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 4: was sort of like an endorsement for. 451 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: Ryan Tetter, and the way he remixed it was great. 452 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 4: It was brilliant, and he's in amazing produce. I mean, 453 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 4: he's a super talent, there's no question. But we were 454 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 4: just writing. I mean we were just I was booking 455 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: sessions with writers around town and we got into the 456 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 4: studio and Bleeding Love was like one of the first 457 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 4: songs we wrote. And we wrote only a couple other 458 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 4: songs to get other all of which I don't actually 459 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 4: think ended up getting published except Bleeding Love, which is fine. 460 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 4: And but yeah, that's that's kind of how we met. 461 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: What's your process? Like, would like say, okay, hey, Ryan, 462 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: let's you want to write together. Sure, how does that start? 463 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: Does it start with like a coffee and you just 464 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: start talking ideas or do you get a guitar out 465 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: first and start playing things? 466 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always its always, you know, always a coffee, 467 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 4: always a coffee, And we really just booked in the 468 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 4: studio for the first two three hours. Mostly every session 469 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 4: starts out with us just talking about whatever traffic usually 470 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 4: how awful it is. And then I mean, I'm I'm 471 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 4: a melody lyric lyricist guy, you know, I mean, I 472 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 4: can play piano a little bit, but I'm not you know, 473 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 4: a real like a great musician, you know, but I'm 474 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 4: I'm a fairly good lyricist and great with melody. And 475 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 4: so Ryan and I got in and he had this 476 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 4: sort of just basic track, this B three organ and 477 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 4: it was the chords to Bleeding Love. It's a four 478 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 4: chord progression. And I just got in the booth and 479 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 4: started singing melodies over the track, which is generally how 480 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 4: I do things, and and then like pulled up my 481 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 4: notes app that had hundreds of, you know, lyrical ideas 482 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 4: and had this sort of concept you know, bleeding love 483 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 4: or being ripped open or cut open and super dramatic, 484 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 4: and then we just sort of developed it from there. 485 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 4: But there's no science to it. I mean, I think 486 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 4: it's different every time. Sometimes I go in with just 487 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 4: like a lyric idea that I like and try to 488 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 4: expand on it. But you know, most ideas are terrible, 489 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 4: and once in a while you get a bleeding Love. 490 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the rule of them? Like every twenty the 491 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: songs a hit, just going to keep one and twenty 492 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: then you finally got out. 493 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 4: That's a good. Maybe it's changed, like twenty percent. 494 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 2: You know, I'm always surprised when I hear when somebody goes, 495 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: we thought it was going to be a hit, you know, 496 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: we knew we had something, and then there's also the 497 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: times when they go we had no idea, it was 498 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: just an extra track. 499 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: So but with Bleeding Love, I heard you. 500 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: Say sort of at the beginning that you were like, 501 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: I felt like I had something there. 502 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, what was it that you felt? 503 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 2: Was it like, oh, the chords were really going together, 504 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: or was it like a lyric turn that just really 505 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 2: kind of made sense or all of it together? 506 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: Like what was it that you went, oh, oh, yeah. 507 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 4: I just didn't find a Look, I didn't think there 508 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: was any like wasted lyrics or melody. Like it just 509 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 4: felt very cohesive and like a beautiful song. You know, 510 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 4: a lot of songs in pop especially, you can feel 511 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 4: where writers sort of bail out, you know, and you 512 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 4: get a lot of repetition or things that you just 513 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 4: are there in this song to sort of, you know, 514 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 4: keep it going. But the song had a really nice story. 515 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 4: I thought it was very lyrically strong, strong, and yeah, 516 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 4: and it was just a really pretty record. But again, 517 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 4: like it just goes to show nobody knows, right because 518 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 4: the label didn't see it, didn't hear it. 519 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: And it's also how it's promoted. I mean, look at 520 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: Murder on the Dance Floor. It came out years ago 521 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: and now it's so huge. It's all about the time, 522 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: all about who will support it, who's going to put 523 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: in heavy rotation. 524 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: I mean that's just what it Isn't that Jojo Siwah record, 525 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 4: Because wasn't that like a song that was passed upon? 526 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was someone else's single in twenty eleven 527 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: and it already came out, her. 528 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 2: Song Karma, right, But yeah, you're right though, Lance, It's 529 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: like there's timing, there's out for me. 530 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: It just kind of all has to come together. A 531 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: lot of times you're kind of told what to watch 532 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: and listen to, especially back in my day. I CRL. 533 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: It's like, here are the ten songs you have to 534 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: like kids. It's from Corn to Limp Biscuit to Backstreet 535 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: Bat Britney Spears. But you're kind of forced to like 536 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: this now that there's so many different platforms TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, everything, 537 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: everyone's kind of segmented and kind of you can find 538 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: your own favorite music and you never hear it on 539 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: the radio. And that's the thing. 540 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 3: Now there's just so many outlets and there's so many 541 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 3: more artists now that it's like it's good and bad. 542 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 3: You have so many more opportunity to put yourself out there. 543 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: But you're now against thousands or more thousands. 544 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: And they's like, well, how do I break out? And 545 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: I always tell like new artists especially, like don't worry 546 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: about that. Focus on just doing the best you. Your 547 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: fans will find you, and who cares if it's on 548 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: the radio. If you have your fan base and they're 549 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: coming to your shows and buying your music, that's all 550 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: you need. That's what you're doing. Michael Jackson, so state like, 551 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: just have your crowd and there you go. You have 552 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: a career. 553 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 4: Now it wants to be like radio really minted a song. 554 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 4: You know, it's either it made her, it would make 555 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 4: or break a song. And now it just seems like 556 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 4: anything is possible. You have a viral moment that the 557 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 4: Jojo song just needed incredible choreography, and then all of 558 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 4: a sudden, you know it's a huge record. So it 559 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 4: just depends on. 560 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: Choreographer. 561 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: Is one of the biggest choreographers he's Toddrick's choreographer. He's 562 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: Lady Gaga's Richie Squirrel. 563 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: This is Richie Squirrel. That's crazy And I don't know Richie. 564 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: You know her famous little head banging seat. It's very 565 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: Gaga with the arms and that. 566 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: Like he did Bad Romance, he did all he did 567 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: rain on me, all of those videos is the same quarreo. 568 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: I can now see it. I can see it's Lady 569 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: like a monster. 570 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 2: But Jesse, you you started off in the kind of 571 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: the old paradigm with the radio and that sort of thing, 572 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: and I don't know if maybe you did chopping balls 573 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, like you had to. 574 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: Do promo tour. 575 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: There's still very much have a career and the new paradigm, 576 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 2: and it is very much a new paradigm, like be 577 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: able to make the transition not everybody is very hard and. 578 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 4: I hated it and I kind of still do. But 579 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 4: it is part of the new paradigm. Like you said, 580 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 4: like you just have to figure out a way to adapt, 581 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 4: and that's sort of how it's done now. And it's 582 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 4: so much more work, as you guys all know. But 583 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 4: you know that is you know, you got to play 584 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 4: the game. 585 00:27:52,720 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: No doubt. Let's talk a little about dream Street because 586 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: I said, we had some of your boys on the show, 587 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: and they kind of like, you know what, maybe we 588 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: should get in the studio and they did, which was 589 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: like fun. And we just saw them at the iHeart 590 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 1: Awards and they're like, oh my god, we actually like 591 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: because of the show, did this now you just brought 592 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: them out on your show in New York. 593 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, what was that like? Well, they didn't come on stage, 594 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: but they came backstage, and which was fun. They came 595 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 4: to my New York show and yeah, we just sort 596 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 4: of we had a reunion like a year ago, just 597 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 4: on our own time. We went up to Montana and 598 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 4: did like a ski trip together for about a year 599 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 4: and they rented a house and went skiing, and we 600 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 4: got to reconnect after literally a decade or more of 601 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 4: really seeing each other. And our lives are so different 602 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 4: now half of you know, half of them have multiple kids, 603 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 4: and I think Greg is on his sixth kid now. 604 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: But it's always it's kind of like it's kind of 605 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: growing up with your cousins and then you all grow 606 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: up and you don't really see your cousins that much 607 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: much anymore. But then when you get back together, it's 608 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: just amazing. 609 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 4: And you we candel but they came to the New 610 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 4: York show and we all had a few drinks or 611 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 4: more backstage, and we ended up singing like some acapella 612 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 4: and you know, reminiscing and doing a little dancing backstage 613 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 4: for TikTok. 614 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's all. It's a TikTok world. We just 615 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: live in it. What would you say, besides beautiful soul, 616 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: what is your favorite? Actually, beautiful soul might not be 617 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: your favorite sing I know it's the crowd favorite, probably 618 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: like you got up singing the song, But what do 619 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: you like to sing on stage? What is your favorite? 620 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: I mean, it's always the new stuff, just selfishly right 621 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 4: when you put out new music this last tour, I 622 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 4: did you know we I did? I put out an 623 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 4: EP earlier this year, and it's just such a to me. 624 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 4: It's just great, great songwriting, and it's it was all. 625 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 4: It was produced, you know, in in a studio with 626 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 4: live instrumentation and a live band, which is something I 627 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 4: haven't done in many, many years. So that stuff is 628 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 4: super fun for me. But of course playing the hits, 629 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 4: I feel like I've come full circle on beautiful soul. 630 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 4: You know, there was a time where I was really 631 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 4: annoyed playing that song. Yeah, just I mean, you know 632 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 4: how that is. But the song is twenty years old 633 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 4: this year, it's about to hit his twenty year anniversary, 634 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 4: and now, like you play it and like young moms 635 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 4: are in the audience with their five year old daughters 636 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: singing the song, and there's like this whole new generation 637 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 4: of kids that now know beautiful soul and. 638 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: It holds up. It is a really solid. 639 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 4: Song, and like, I think you forget that until till 640 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 4: just now am I realizing, Oh, well, that's that song 641 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 4: really has stood the test of time. 642 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: And you see those new listeners vibe to it. I 643 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: love it, and you're like, yeah, this song is a jam, 644 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: it's nice song, is a good song. 645 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's cool. Twenty years. 646 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 4: That's twenty years right now, it's crazy. 647 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: Well are we going to be seeing you on tour? 648 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 4: So yeah, So I finished a tour this past spring 649 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 4: and it was a big success. So we're going to 650 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 4: go back out I think in October and do another 651 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 4: fall leg. So I think I'm gonna tour October November 652 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 4: all through the US and Canada. We're still like finalizing everything. 653 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think early October the tour will kick off. 654 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 4: It's gonna be uh like part two, Part two of 655 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: the All's Well tour. So we're doing that again this 656 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 4: year and then hopefully run into next year and do 657 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 4: something else, maybe next summer with another artist. Oh, I 658 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 4: don't know if it's confirmed yet, but you know, I 659 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 4: haven't done a lot of co headlining, but it would 660 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 4: be fun to do that, you know. I do like touring. 661 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 4: I mean it's a lot harder as you get older, 662 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 4: but it is a lot of fun and it's nice 663 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 4: to reconnect with the fans. And I just love performing live. 664 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 4: It's my favorite aspect of the business. I grew up 665 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 4: on stage and so I just feel like that's my 666 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: my happy place, my safe place. 667 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: My happy place is the bus. I love it. I 668 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: love it on the bus YEP. Yeah, I sleep better. 669 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: I just everything. I just love traveling. Do you but yeah, 670 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: I do. 671 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 4: My wife and dog came out, and love them both 672 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 4: very much. But my dog is getting older and she 673 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 4: just does not sleep, and we sleep in the back 674 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 4: together and she has to be in the middle of 675 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 4: us because she is separation anxiety. So I'm up every 676 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 4: three hours. 677 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no I could do that. 678 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 4: She had to go home after the first. 679 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: Two weeks, got to work. Yeah. Do you notice when 680 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: you tour, is there a place in this country or 681 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: around the world that you're like, this is my biggest 682 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: fan base right here? 683 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 4: Probably the East Coast because it's where it all started. 684 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 4: I would say New York is uh kind of where 685 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 4: it all started, you know, So New York, anywhere in 686 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 4: the Tri state area, the Midwest is great, to Chicago, 687 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 4: and you know anywhere in Michigan, Wisconsin, the South. It's funny. 688 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 4: LA is probably my probably least. 689 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: That's for every artist. It's the worst. 690 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 4: It's just it's just but this last tour was great, 691 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 4: like we you know, we sold out at the Wiltern. 692 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 4: We're going to do it again, I think later this year. 693 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 4: But it was. Yeah, there's definitely pockets of the country 694 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: that are stronger than others. 695 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: It's weird because La you can get the people there, 696 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: it's just they're not as hyped as everyone else. 697 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 4: And they show up two hours late. 698 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I guess just got so much stuff. Yeah, 699 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: but it's a lot of industry so that you know, 700 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: the front two rows will be executive people were like, oh, 701 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: come on now, I got to perform. The people sitting 702 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: down the whole time so much energy. 703 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 4: Van have like one hundred tickets too for your like friends, 704 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 4: family agents and managers, and about half of them show, 705 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 4: you know, and they had the excuse like, oh, we 706 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 4: thought the show is tomorrow. 707 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: They pull like the Larry David on you like, like 708 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: I think Billy Joel or something like that. He's like, no, 709 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: that that front two rows gott to be for he 710 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: has does yeah, he has. I think he has his 711 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: guys like go out and basically move fans up to 712 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: fill in that row. 713 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: Would yeah, because he has to do that. That's what 714 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: you want to see all our guests. You're gonna sit 715 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: at soundboard, come on, yeah, have fun with that. You're 716 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: out there. You released your new EP, All's Well in April, congratulations, 717 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: and it is said to have racy lyrics Jesse racy lyrics, 718 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: and it has that familiar early Oughts pop sound. So 719 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: tell us how much I love Someone made this quote? 720 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: We have no idea. Someone said that. Someone said that, 721 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: So tell us all about the new EP and how 722 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: this came out. How long did it take you to do. 723 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: This one probably about a year I was in you know, 724 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 4: I was home. I was listening to a lot of 725 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 4: like old school seventies yacht rocky kind of type move music, 726 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 4: and listened to a lot of Hall and Oates and 727 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 4: d Bars and just music. 728 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: That I was by the pool back you just named it, 729 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: and I. 730 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 4: Just fell in love with just the live musicianship of 731 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 4: that time in music, and I wanted to do that again, 732 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 4: so I put I got a producer to put you know, 733 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 4: really amazing band together, studio guys who've played on everything 734 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 4: from Atlantis Morris At to John Mayer and some of 735 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 4: like the best guys that play in the in the 736 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 4: studio and wrote the songs, you know, and then went 737 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 4: to the studio and arranged everything and had live horns, 738 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 4: and it was just nice. It was nice to get 739 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 4: back to like the roots that you don't hear a 740 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 4: lot of that and pop music anymore. I feel like 741 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 4: everything is programmed digitally. It just had this sort of 742 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 4: you know, throwback feel to it that I love. And yeah, 743 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 4: it's it's a great EP. And I wouldn't say it's racy, 744 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 4: but it's certainly more you know, Yeah, yeah, it's it's 745 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 4: you know it's it sounds like a thirty seven year 746 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 4: old man's music. 747 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 2: Well, you know, just having a horn section that you 748 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 2: get to be like porn racy. 749 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: It's like a word that my like racy lyrics. Anyway, Okay, sorry. 750 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: I should I should the question. 751 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: No, No, you have a. 752 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: Big porn section that we shouldn't talk about, but you 753 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 2: have a big horn section. 754 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 4: No. 755 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: But being able to like work with musicians like that 756 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 2: and come up with a couple of like cool horn 757 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 2: licks and all that kind of stuff. I mean that 758 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 2: to me, that's like my dream. I would love to 759 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 2: be able to do that, to work with a band 760 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 2: and be like, what if you guys popped in right 761 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: here should do it? Well, I'm not talking about me, 762 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 2: but I'm about you. Was like, how much fun was that? 763 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: Especially because you your roots are not necessarily working with 764 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 2: a live band in right way. So yeah, talk a 765 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 2: little bit about that or that process of working like 766 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: really seasoned studio musicians. 767 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's great. You know, you write, you 768 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 4: write a song, and then you get to arrange it. 769 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 4: You decide like, okay, we want horns in this section, 770 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 4: and you know, I left a lot of that to 771 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 4: the producer right to sort of help arrange those parts. 772 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 4: But it's just so fun being in a room with 773 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 4: other really really talented people who are at the you know, 774 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 4: are the best of what they do, and you sort 775 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 4: of leave it to them to bring their a game 776 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 4: and help crystallize your vision, you know. And we recorded 777 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 4: in Santa Monica at this record studio that I'm blanking 778 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 4: on right now, but like legendary artists have played through there. 779 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 4: Carol King actually stopped by at the session and gave 780 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 4: her two cents to like the musicians, which was so funny. 781 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 4: She's no slouch, She's no slouch, and like all musicians 782 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 4: were freaking out, you know, and she's she's up there saying, hey, 783 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 4: maybe uh play a little less drum fill on this? 784 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: You want me to put my sticks down? 785 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 4: No, it's just it's just such a great process, and 786 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 4: it made it fun for me again. 787 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: You know. 788 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 4: It was like this reinvigorated my love for music for sure. 789 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: Have you seen her Broadway show Beautiful? 790 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 791 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: Oh it's so good. 792 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 4: She's amazing. 793 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah that was really really good. Uh, your album departure? 794 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: Are you going to be highlighting that album at all? 795 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: On the upcoming tour. 796 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I definitely play a lot of those songs Leavin. Obviously, 797 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 4: body Language is probably one of my favorites to play live. 798 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 4: I did that with Tea Pain back in like two thousand. 799 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 4: Te Pain is the best. That's probably one of my 800 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 4: favorite songs. I love that album and that was sort 801 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 4: of that album too, is when we kind of made 802 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 4: the shift from like really traditional pop, like beautiful soul 803 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 4: to a slightly more rhythmic, urban sounding album and worked 804 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 4: with you know, Tea Pain and Ludacris and Sean Garrett 805 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 4: and kind of went down that path a little bit 806 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 4: and you started hearing more R and B tones to 807 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 4: the to the music and yeah, it's that's that record 808 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 4: is There's so many good ones on that album. But 809 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 4: for sure I'll be playing a lot of the songs 810 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 4: I always I never deprived fans from the hit songs 811 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 4: like you can't do that on tour. There's nothing more 812 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 4: frustrating and washing an artists play. 813 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: All of his and nothing just song to play the 814 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: one you're really waiting for. Come on, I had to 815 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: wait an hour and a half for that. Yeah, right, 816 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: who what is your new artist? Right now that you're 817 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: you have your eye On. 818 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 4: There's a band called Lawrence. They love Lawrence. Yeah, Yeah, 819 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 4: they're incredible. They're they're out of New York, I believe, 820 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 4: Uh Gracie and and her brother, yeah, Clyde, and they're 821 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 4: just super super talents, like they are real musicians. And 822 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 4: Clyde is just he reminds me of like a young 823 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 4: like Michael McDonald. There's something he's got, this amazing raspy voice. 824 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 2: I am a massive band too that goes on tour 825 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 2: with them. 826 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 827 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 4: They opened for like the Jonas Brothers a couple of 828 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 4: years ago, and they sort of organically built this fan base. 829 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 4: They're playing like Radio City by themselves in New York, 830 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 4: which is amazing. And I think I'm going to go 831 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 4: out and work with them in August this year and 832 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 4: do some writing with them. We're trying to put that 833 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 4: together just because literally I hit them up on Instagram 834 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 4: was like, hey, I am obsessed with you guys. I 835 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 4: love your music. 836 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: They got like a pop funk, soul kind of thing. 837 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 4: So fairly yeah, and I think it's really important to 838 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 4: have that for this generation where I think it's lacking. 839 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 4: Quite frankly, it's so much heart. 840 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 1: How great is it as an artist that you can 841 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: reach people that you want to read through a DM. 842 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 4: These days it's the best. I mean, it's it's you 843 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 4: truly can skip so many different steps. Now you don't 844 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 4: have to call the PR team or the managers or 845 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 4: like the deal with all the emails back and forth. 846 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 4: You can just literally hit them up and if they're 847 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 4: into it, they hate you back, and if not, they 848 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 4: leave you on red. 849 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 1: What's her name that I'm loving right now? The rowans 850 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 1: that's a meteor Yeah, no kidding. 851 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 4: But I love Zach Bryan who yeh, super talent. 852 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: You know what. I'd love to hear you do. And 853 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: Ryan just did this recently with maybe David Getta maybe 854 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: is that who we just did it with or it was. 855 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: I want to hear you get with Caigo yeah, yeah, 856 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: and do some amazing like dance hit. 857 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 858 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: I want to hear this in clubs. I want an 859 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,959 Speaker 1: M version of it. I think you would kill it interesting. 860 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 4: And Carol g they sampled the Bleeding Love and did 861 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 4: a song called I Think Yeah, but yeah, it would 862 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 4: be super fun to work in an E d M environment. 863 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 4: I've never really done that. That would be fun. 864 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: It would be fun. I would love I mean, I 865 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: think it would have been fun if and Sync would 866 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: have done that with But back in you know, I 867 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: keep saying it, back in our day, DJ's really weren't 868 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: a thing. I mean, it wasn't it, and that. 869 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: Music was considered more like circuit and techno and that 870 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 2: sort of thing. It it wasn't mainstream, and it hadn't 871 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 2: found its way into this sort of where so lyrical. 872 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 2: Now there's there's so much more lyric there's so much 873 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 2: more melody and am I saying to I mean, back 874 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:18,959 Speaker 2: then it was just. 875 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: The actual music. It wasn't really like a lot of 876 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: collapse and we weren't going to do. 877 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but no that that that would be very cool 878 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 2: if you climbed into that world a little bit. I 879 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 2: feel like you could go a lot of different places. 880 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 2: I mean, the Lawrence is not a surprise to me 881 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 2: because you you're such a great singer and you're a 882 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 2: great songwriter, and I feel like you could fit in 883 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 2: that so beautifully. 884 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: But I think there's a lot of places you could play. 885 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, oh, I appreciate it. 886 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that is all the show we have 887 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: for you for this part of the episode, because it's 888 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: a two for we love a twofer. Well, we have 889 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: a great guest. I love to talk. We love talking 890 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: to them. It's a two for. We're gonna continue this 891 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 1: interview on the next episode, which is going to launch 892 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: in just a few days, so just keep you know, 893 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: keep watching, subscribe to our Instagram account. That's how we 894 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: love talking to you guys. Dm us any ideas, you got, 895 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: any kind of comments, any questions you have, just dm 896 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: us on the Frosted Tips with Lance Instagram page. 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