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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we never sold all our

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Speaker 1: jamis Winston Stock. I'm Greg Rosenthal in my garage talking

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Speaker 1: to my friend Nick Shook from Ohio. We're talking some

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Speaker 1: screaming needs for every AFC team today. Nick, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to be here. I'm in an apartment. I

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Speaker 2: do have some sound proofing foam on the wall, but

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Speaker 2: I don't trust it much, so I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: actually scream for screaming needs IDs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you can scream. I speak very loudly. We're right

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Speaker 1: behind like a restaurant employee parking lot. They can definitely

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Speaker 1: hear me when I'm doing a show because, yeah, my

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Speaker 1: wife Emica, she says often she can hear me on

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Speaker 1: the total other side of the house and it's loud.

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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know what it is. You hit

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Speaker 1: record and you just start yelling. But yes, these are

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Speaker 1: It's screaming Needs Day. So two of the shows this week,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do one with you. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: do one with Patrick Claybond. Later in the week we'll

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Speaker 1: do the NF See. We're gonna kind of go through

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Speaker 1: all the teams a little bit of a reset after

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Speaker 1: everything that happened in free agency and look ahead to

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Speaker 1: the draft what all the needs will be. And first

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Speaker 1: we're going to do just a little bit of news. Now.

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Speaker 1: We have not addressed the Aaron Rodgers visit to the

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Speaker 1: Steelers on the show. Patrick and I talk draft on

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Speaker 1: the show that we put up on Monday, And it

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Speaker 1: was interesting, this report comes out Rogers is visiting. No

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Speaker 1: one really had it except for a local guy, Jerry Dulach,

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Speaker 1: who probably just heard it that day from someone literally

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Speaker 1: because no one knew about it ahead of time, none

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Speaker 1: of the insiders, nothing, And that to me is interesting

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Speaker 1: on its own that they were trying to keep it

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Speaker 1: so quiet. It's come out since that Rogers stayed for

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Speaker 1: six hours pft. At least thought that this thing might

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Speaker 1: be headed to a conclusion, but then you know, it

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Speaker 1: didn't happen. They made an offer and he's just sitting

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Speaker 1: on that offer and we wait. But I do think

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Speaker 1: the fact that he was there and that Jamis Winston

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Speaker 1: is now a member of the Giants, which we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about in a second, certainly leads you to believe that

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are very likely to have Aaron Rodgers as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine that they're back and forth, you know,

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Speaker 2: producing a meeting of such length, and there's really no

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Speaker 2: interest with other teams that this feels like this is

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Speaker 2: his destination. Frankly, I'm tired of it already. Just because

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Speaker 2: Rogers does this, he makes us all a wait. But

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Speaker 2: it does make me think, Greg, what was the longest

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Speaker 2: job interview you ever had in your professional life?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Wow, the longest job in terms?

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Speaker 2: I have one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, give me a yours. Well, well, I think on it,

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Speaker 1: but I'll listen to your story because I know it's

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Speaker 1: going to be dynamite.

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Speaker 2: In college, I interned at the Acron Beacon Journal as

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Speaker 2: a copy editor for two and a half years. I

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Speaker 2: full time copy editing job. My interview there was seven

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Speaker 2: and a half hours with people, wow, for nearly three years.

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Speaker 2: But I got the job, So we take that, Rogers.

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Speaker 2: I was there even longer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's insane, now that I think of it.

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Speaker 1: I'd never had long interview processes. Processes. I did that thing.

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Speaker 1: Remember when you were in high school and they had.

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Speaker 1: It was like a scam that you would sell knives

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Speaker 1: or whatever, like for kids that are high school college

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Speaker 1: you would like go door to door for cutco selling knives.

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Speaker 1: I remember I went to one of those and that

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Speaker 1: was a solid hour long interview and they were like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I was just like, no, this is bad, bad vibes.

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Speaker 1: That is too much the NFL interview process. I definitely

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Speaker 1: had to meet a handful of people, including at the

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Speaker 1: scouting combine, But I don't know. I guess I've gotten

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Speaker 1: but it's a long time. It just almost seems like,

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Speaker 1: come on, Aaron Rodgers. I know you will disrespect some

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Speaker 1: So there is an idea of maybe it's just leverage

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Speaker 1: take a first run back. Whatever it is, we don't

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Speaker 1: some point he will sign and then we can analyze it.

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Speaker 1: Then the fact that Jamis Winston signed with the Giants

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Speaker 1: was not a coincidence though. Two years, eight million dollars

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Speaker 1: and to me, that's the Giants saying, we know that

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Speaker 1: Rogers prefers the Steelers. Let's stop waiting for Rogers. Let's

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Speaker 1: get one quarterback in place because we don't have any,

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Speaker 1: and let's get who we see as the ideal quarterback

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Speaker 1: to just still have all our options open. Two years,

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Speaker 1: they're still looking at Russell Wilson. They could still sign

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Speaker 1: but it's more likely Jameis Winston and Russ or Jamis

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Speaker 1: or even cam Ward if they traded up to number one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we now close the circle on our good

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Speaker 2: buddy Matt Harmon of Yahoo, who tweeted way back in

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Speaker 2: week seventeen when Malik Neighbors was torching the Colts with

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Speaker 2: out of draft position and convince the Giants to sign

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Speaker 2: Jameis Winston so that he'd hummel him with two hundred

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Speaker 2: targets and he'd go toward a huge season in a

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Speaker 2: second year. And now it's a possible reality. Congrats Matt

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Speaker 1: It's true this draft could easily be Giants one Patriots two,

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Speaker 1: which I obviously would prefer. It could be Patriots one

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Speaker 1: But those two late season wins won by the Giants

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Speaker 1: and one by the Patriots really changed the equation of

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Speaker 1: everything that's happening. And you know, I say half the top.

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Speaker 1: I never gave up on my Winston stock. He has

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Speaker 1: fallen into his right zone. He's not making a lot

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Speaker 1: Like that's only worth a one third as much as

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Speaker 1: like five hundred snaps. Like to me, some backup quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: So we'll see you pay the interceptions and the pick

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Speaker 2: six's tax. I think Jamis is in this deal and

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Speaker 2: hopefully the Lord will deliver him from pick sixes in

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Speaker 1: There you go. What a weird but ridiculous and kind

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Speaker 1: of fun combination Russ and Jamis Winston would be. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think it would be very good. I think

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Speaker 1: they got to go cam Ward. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: fact that cam Ward is having his pro day at

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Speaker 1: Miami as we're taping this. We don't have like big

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Speaker 1: reviews on it, and cam you know, Protey's always go

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Speaker 1: pretty well. The noteworthy part of it to me is

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Speaker 1: that the Titans had dinner with him the night before,

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Speaker 1: and that's kind of the pole position of like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: And Yeah, the longer this goes on, I just think

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Speaker 2: And is he going to order a Tomahawks steak and

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Speaker 2: really just you know, establish his dominance as the franchise

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Speaker 2: quarterback of the future for them or not, you know?

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Speaker 2: Or is he going to go something lighter? You know,

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Speaker 2: I show he's more measured, experienced, veteran guy. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: they're in the catbird seat for their pick of quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: and it feels sure like they're going to take him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And he's someone that all the meetings at the combine,

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Speaker 1: everyone loves cam Ward. He is a veteran. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's played a lot of football at the collegiate level,

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be him in the end.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Xavier Ristreppo, who is a mid round receiver,

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Speaker 1: some point. It's too bad because he was productive. He'll

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Speaker 1: I just want to mention one contract thing that came up.

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Speaker 1: Like the reports are one thing with these contracts when

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Speaker 1: a little bit different. And I noticed T Higgins's contract

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk is the one that had this was

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Speaker 1: very surprising, very year to year. He's going to get

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Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars in the first year, plus a

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Speaker 1: It would be two for two years for fifty nine

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Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna say T Higgins like did the

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Speaker 1: Bengals a great favor, but it's very much a year

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Speaker 1: Higgins could have done a lot better on the open market.

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Speaker 1: I actually do think Tea, Joe Burrow, and Jamar Chase

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, and I think it sets up for

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Speaker 2: to protect the franchise, which a lot of clubs don't

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Speaker 2: necessarily do this with these big times of types of deals.

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Speaker 2: Which is that hey, like, if we're awful defensively and

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Speaker 2: we clearly need to dedicate some resources to the defense

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Speaker 2: and we have to make a sacrifice, we can make

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Speaker 2: a sacrifice and get out of this deal after year one.

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Speaker 2: Obviously that's not what you hope happens, but they're planning

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Speaker 2: realize this is too much money dedicated to three offensive guys.

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Speaker 2: So good on them. But yeah, you're right, and what

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Speaker 2: do we do? In January? Every team in the NFL

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Speaker 2: All right, So you look at this group. I actually

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Speaker 1: Yeah, never tempt Sean McDermott for taking another linebacker or

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Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins. Again, we're gonna like I said, at this

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. I wrote that down too, that they

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Speaker 1: on the clock. They're the opposite of the Bills. So

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Speaker 1: I say the Bills can go anywhere because they don't

431
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Speaker 1: really need like anything, and the Patriots can go anywhere

432
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Speaker 1: because they really need everything, even cornerback, where there's a

433
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Speaker 1: good idea from our friend Daniel Jeremiah that if Travis

434
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Speaker 1: Hunter went there, he'd play receiver because receiver might be

435
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Speaker 1: their app So the biggest need, and you have these

436
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Speaker 1: two great cornerbacks. Now that's true, but if you look

437
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Speaker 1: at their depth chart, you know how many cornerbacks? They

438
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Speaker 1: have two great ones, and then Marcus Jones's number three,

439
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Speaker 1: who's like barely bigger than me, and they don't have

440
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Speaker 1: anyone else that can probably play at the NFL level,

441
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Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, you still need more cornerbacks. Than that.

442
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Speaker 1: You need more. They need a left tackle, they need

443
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Speaker 1: a center. They signed Garrett Bradbury. That is not a solution,

444
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Speaker 1: a guy that Minnesota was excited to get rid of.

445
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Speaker 1: Maybe he starts this year, maybe he doesn't. He could

446
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Speaker 1: play guard too. They need a tight end. Like they

447
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Speaker 1: could take anything, and you'll say, okay, they have Hunter

448
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: Henry and Austin Hooper, like that's not a long term plan.

449
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Speaker 1: So what don't the Patriots need. They kind of need everything.

450
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Speaker 1: But left tackle is the one that screams out. Because

451
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Speaker 1: Morgan moses to sign in free agency. You figure he's

452
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Speaker 1: on the right side, but who knows. You could even

453
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Speaker 1: ask him to play left tackle and switch it around

454
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Speaker 1: if you took Membu. Who knows if you need him to.

455
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Speaker 2: But he also hasn't been able to stay very healthy

456
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Speaker 2: over the last few years. He's a veteran guy. Collect

457
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Speaker 2: off lineman, please do because you need to protect Drake may.

458
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Speaker 2: I very much agree with that. And you know, when

459
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Speaker 2: I did the fits last week, Cam Robinson was still

460
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Speaker 2: out there, I'm like, go to the Patriots please. He

461
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Speaker 2: signs with the Texans, so that options off the board.

462
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Speaker 2: I think that they could definitely use you know they've

463
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Speaker 2: done a good job because they were starting with the

464
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Speaker 2: bottom of the barrel. They've done a good job of

465
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Speaker 2: filling out that eleven on both sides of the ball.

466
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Speaker 2: But another team that really lacks depth, that could become

467
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Speaker 2: a really big problem very quickly for them if they

468
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Speaker 2: don't get through the early portion of the season largely healthy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, interior offensive line because you look at who's there

470
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Speaker 1: and yeah, you have Michael and when you like in theory,

471
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Speaker 1: one of your best players has a huge contract. He

472
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Speaker 1: was bad last year. He got dragged down with everyone else.

473
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Speaker 1: Cole strange like he was coming off a massive injury.

474
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Speaker 1: He's a mystery. Let's go too the AFC North. You

475
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Speaker 1: can kick us off with your Cleveland Brownies.

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Speaker 2: Well, the obvious one is quarterback. I just did an

477
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Speaker 2: appearance on their show earlier today and we talked about

478
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Speaker 2: quarterback at length, and who knows how they're going to

479
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Speaker 2: solve that. I think multiple pieces are necessary. I think

480
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Speaker 2: you should still explore cousin Kyler suck.

481
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Speaker 1: Bro right away quarterback.

482
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna ride a wave that everybody likes to

483
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Speaker 2: ride because those waves end up being Jake Locker. Okay,

484
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Speaker 2: But in the meantime, I also think you need running back.

485
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Speaker 2: This is a running back room that has zero identity

486
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Speaker 2: right now. Nick Chubb is not who he used to be.

487
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Speaker 2: He's a free agent right now. They want to bring

488
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Speaker 2: him back. The Browns fans want him back. I don't

489
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Speaker 2: know if the Browns do. And he's not an answer.

490
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Speaker 2: You got Jerome Ford. You were throwing in Pierre Strong

491
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Speaker 2: in the last two years, who was just a vertical

492
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Speaker 2: runner at best. You need somebody like that, and this

493
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Speaker 2: is the class to do it in. So go draft

494
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Speaker 2: a running back, draft a quarterback. You can draft in

495
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Speaker 2: a number of areas, but those two have to be

496
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Speaker 2: part of your offense, especially if you're gonna go back

497
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Speaker 2: to the Kevin Stefanski identity of building out of the run.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Andrew Berry is overrated? Properly rated? Not

499
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Speaker 1: get enough heat? Because when I looked at this roster,

500
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Speaker 1: man minute, they've been there for five years now, Like

501
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Speaker 1: I know, the Watson excuses is you know, you can

502
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Speaker 1: blame that on ownership, but the rest of the rosters

503
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Speaker 1: it's not great.

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Speaker 2: I mean especially it's like a just a boat out there,

505
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Speaker 2: just kind of floating, like they've never they found a

506
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Speaker 2: direction briefly, and then they decided to change course and

507
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Speaker 2: then that went to just hell in a handbasket. Now

508
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Speaker 2: you're just like, I don't know what to do. This

509
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Speaker 2: is just a team that's just existing out there. Yeah.

510
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Speaker 2: I think it depends on what he's rated. What is

511
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Speaker 2: he rated, because I would say that he's probably rated.

512
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Speaker 2: He's probably should below what he's raided right now. It

513
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Speaker 2: depends on who you ask.

514
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Speaker 1: I feel like he's under the radar and maybe he

515
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Speaker 1: doesn't get a lot of heat. I don't know, because

516
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Speaker 1: if it's the analytics, what is it. But he should

517
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Speaker 1: be rated as poorly as as any GM just about

518
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Speaker 1: out there.

519
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Speaker 2: What it is is it's a fan base that has

520
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Speaker 2: seen so much turnover over the years that they just

521
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Speaker 2: like the stability. They know that they can count on

522
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Speaker 2: Defan and Ferry at least now. But if they win

523
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Speaker 2: three games again next year, though, neither of those guys

524
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Speaker 2: are going to be there anyway.

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Speaker 1: They're left tackle is Dwan Jones right now, they're number

526
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Speaker 1: one receivers Jerry Judy, and they don't really have a two.

527
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Speaker 1: They need some interior lineup. It's a lot, all right,

528
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna.

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Speaker 2: Do that drafting receivers. I'll say that he's very bad

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Speaker 2: in drafting receivers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've taken a ton. Elijah Moore is still a

532
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Speaker 1: free agent. Ravens put them on the clock. I just

533
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Speaker 1: think I kept this one simple. They just need interior

534
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Speaker 1: offensive line play. They've been okay at developing these random guys,

535
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Speaker 1: but right now it's Filele the huge guard that played

536
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Speaker 1: all of last year that I don't know if you

537
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Speaker 1: can keep doing that. Ben Cleveland, they brought back Andrew Wore.

538
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Speaker 1: He's like, they need offensive line help. I think this

539
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Speaker 1: could become a problem for them. Lamar Jackson and Derrick

540
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Speaker 1: Henry make them look better than I think they really are.

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Speaker 2: And so it's Tyler Linderbaum the center. He's kind of

542
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Speaker 2: yet propping up the rest of the interior offensive line

543
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Speaker 2: right now. I'll give them credit. They have figured out

544
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Speaker 2: tackle after kind of you know, wandering out there for

545
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Speaker 2: a little bit, getting that Ronnie Stanley to come back

546
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Speaker 2: on the deal that he did, and Rosengarten the draft pick.

547
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Speaker 2: He was also very solid for them. But you know,

548
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Speaker 2: it's been the same story for them every off season

549
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Speaker 2: from my perspective, and it's just you need cornerback depth.

550
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Speaker 2: Like two years ago, they got absolutely ravaged by injury

551
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Speaker 2: and they just threw a bunch of guys at it.

552
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Speaker 2: Then they let a bunch of guys walk or they

553
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Speaker 2: cut them in the off season. When I look at

554
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Speaker 2: them on paper again and I'm like, yeah, Okay, Marlon Umfrey, cool,

555
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Speaker 2: Jalen Armor Davis, all right, Nate Wiggins was a good

556
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Speaker 2: pick up. Who else?

557
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Speaker 1: Maybe?

558
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Speaker 2: Who like?

559
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Speaker 1: Maybe Nate Wiggins is a great example. There is something

560
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Speaker 1: about me that just like likes watching NFL tape better

561
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: than college tape. It's just it's just a fact. So

562
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Speaker 1: when I'm starting to watch these cornerbacks and stuff, part

563
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Speaker 1: of me thinks, like, wouldn't my time be better spent

564
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Speaker 1: watching Nate Wiggins's rookie year and just like seeing how

565
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Speaker 1: that went, because I'm not really sure is that a

566
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Speaker 1: good pick? Like he was up and down. I would

567
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Speaker 1: like to see how it went on a deeper level.

568
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Speaker 1: Smaller guy was feisty, but I agree that would be

569
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Speaker 1: their number two need would be cornerback.

570
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Speaker 2: He was a splash play guy, and I agree. I

571
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Speaker 2: was a little concerned about his lack of size coming

572
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Speaker 2: out of college because he put down that great forty time.

573
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Speaker 2: He got hurt early, came back. Yeah, I think the

574
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Speaker 2: jury's out on him. But that's at least a guy

575
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Speaker 2: that you can be excited about, as opposed to some

576
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Speaker 2: of the other guys in that secondary.

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Speaker 1: If you don't embarrass yourself as a rookie cornerback, that's

578
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Speaker 1: a plus. It's kind of like being an NBA rookie.

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Speaker 1: Just don't be terrible, and that's usually a great sign.

580
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Speaker 1: And by the way, we hadn't mentioned on this show,

581
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Speaker 1: Michael Pierce, they're great nose tackle for a long time.

582
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Speaker 1: Retired this offseason, so that a lot.

583
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Speaker 2: He got a pick in a game and he's like,

584
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Speaker 2: I'm taking a knee and I'm leaving. I'm done.

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Speaker 1: You're up next with the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: All right, Cincinnati Bengals. We know you just spent a

587
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Speaker 2: lot of money on your receivers. You've got a lot

588
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Speaker 2: of money in your quarterback. You got Trey Henderson still

589
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 2: out there searching for a deal, maybe coming back. But

590
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Speaker 2: here's the thing. If you look at him and he's

591
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Speaker 2: on the team, that's great. You got one. You need another.

592
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Speaker 2: Miles Murphy, former first round pick, has not produced, has

593
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Speaker 2: not lived up to the expectation at all. Frankly, it

594
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Speaker 2: didn't really get a lot of opportunities stuck behind Sam Hubbards.

595
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Speaker 2: So this is a proven year for him. And if

596
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Speaker 2: you'll lose Trey Hendrickson in a trade, then you got

597
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Speaker 2: two questions at the position. It's a defense that was

598
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: much beligned early in the season that couldn't stop a nosebleed.

599
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Speaker 2: They deserve the criticism. And now with all that money

600
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Speaker 2: dedicated to the offensive side, you're going to be under

601
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Speaker 2: a microscope from day one. So go add to your

602
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Speaker 2: pass rush, take a little bit of pressure off of

603
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Speaker 2: the secondary. It's the best way you can go about

604
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Speaker 2: trying to make this into a more well rend team.

605
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Speaker 2: And I think it starts on the defensive line and

606
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: at edge rusher for them, So that's where they need

607
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: to look.

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Speaker 1: It's a great call. Miles Murphy, first round pick from

609
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, has not shown much. I

610
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Speaker 1: think they would have hoped because Hubbard was playing so

611
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: poorly last year. I think if Murphy couldn't get on

612
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: the field, that wasn't a great sign. But you never know.

613
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes defensive linemen developed a little slower. They brought back

614
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Speaker 1: Joseph Asai. The fact that they gave him a decent

615
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: amount of money shows me they're gonna play him. But

616
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: you're you're right many they need they need dudes up front,

617
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Speaker 1: And that actually points out what I thought when I

618
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Speaker 1: looked at the Bengals defense, I was like, wait, this defense,

619
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Speaker 1: which everyone dogged, has all eleven starters coming back.

620
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Speaker 2: That's not entirely encouraging.

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Speaker 1: I mean, not Sam Hubbard. I guess it's not all

622
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Speaker 1: eleven starters, but their entire starting lineup this year was

623
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Speaker 1: on the team last year. Almost all of them were starting.

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Speaker 1: There's a couple that are maybe getting elevated, like Jermaine

625
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: Pratt still on this team. Logan Wilson, Like, it's all

626
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: the same group. The secondary is the same too. Usually

627
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: we're just to back with the Bengals team.

628
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you swung on DJ Turner a couple of

629
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: years ago and that never panned out. Like, just because

630
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Speaker 2: you have continuity doesn't mean necessarily that it's going to

631
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Speaker 2: work out at all. Because you just changed defensive coordinators.

632
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Speaker 1: They really are blaming it all on sweet lou and

633
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: or not nice. Let's go Pittsburgh Steelers. What's obviously quarterback,

634
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Speaker 1: but it's also wide receiver if they trade George Pickens.

635
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: DJ threw this out on forties in free Agents a

636
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. I believe I'm losing check of

637
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: time that he doesn't think Pickens is going to be

638
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: on this roster in the end, that he might get

639
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: traded during the draft. And that's really stuck in my

640
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: head because he's in the final year of his contract

641
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: and if they trade Pickens, they need more help at receiver.

642
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: But I also get why they would trade Pickens get

643
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: another draft pick. He's not a long term and he's

644
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Speaker 1: deplicative of DK Metcalf and so I would get if

645
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Speaker 1: that happens. But it's really the skill positions to me,

646
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: like every team they needed a cornerback, like an like

647
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: a third cornerback, they could use another one, but they

648
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: brought in variously. But it's the skill position. It's quarterback.

649
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Speaker 1: It could be a total embarrassment if they don't get

650
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. It might be an embarrassment if they do,

651
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: and then it's wide receiver and running back Like I

652
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Speaker 1: like Jalen Warren and Kenneth Gainwell, fine, but you would

653
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Speaker 1: like one more guy there.

654
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the idea of trading Piggins now actually makes a

655
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Speaker 2: lot of sense because you're capitalizing on maximum value as

656
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: it stands right now, because you could get to the

657
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Speaker 2: end of the next season and he doesn't have nearly

658
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Speaker 2: as much value any walks, right, But I am also

659
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: looking at them from a right now standpoint, and right

660
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: now like Roman Wilson, who I loved as a pick,

661
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: did nothing last year, got hurt in camp and never

662
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: really found his way onto the field. That would be

663
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Speaker 2: a big boon for them if he could play. He's

664
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Speaker 2: not the same type of guy, but it would be

665
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Speaker 2: a big help for them that passing game. For me, though,

666
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Speaker 2: if you don't know what your quarterback situation is, running

667
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: back Najee Harris is gone. Jalen Warren's your number one.

668
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: They signed Kenneth Gainwell, that's great, but like the days

669
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Speaker 2: of Corderoo Patterson lining up in the backfield and taking

670
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: handoffs have to be over. He's I hate to say it,

671
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Speaker 2: but he's old. Let's get another option. This is the

672
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Speaker 2: draft class to do it. So I'm looking again at

673
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Speaker 2: the skill position, but I'm looking a little bit different.

674
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Speaker 2: Running go running back.

675
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Speaker 1: Pretty good roster. As I went through these teams, there

676
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Speaker 1: were certain teams I thought a little higher of certain teams,

677
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Speaker 1: I thought a little lower of I looked at the

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Speaker 1: Steelers again, and I was like, man, if they did

679
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Speaker 1: just have a quarterback, it's a pretty good roster. Actually,

680
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Speaker 1: think their offensive line has some potential. All right, that's

681
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Speaker 1: two divisions down. We have two divisions to go. These

682
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Speaker 1: are screaming needs for the entire AFC. We will back

683
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Speaker 1: in just a second. Back on NFL Daily. Every show,

684
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Speaker 1: Nick adds exactly one more thing on the wall behind them,

685
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Speaker 1: but you can't really tell what they are. But he's

686
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Speaker 1: working on it. He's moving into a new place and

687
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Speaker 1: he's working on it.

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Speaker 2: For those of you watching on YouTube, here's what it

689
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Speaker 2: looks like.

690
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Speaker 1: Look at that he can he can make the camera

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Speaker 1: move without even touching it. That's fancy. Yeah, little NFL

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Speaker 1: dot com love.

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Speaker 2: My little sister painted that when she was like twelve.

694
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Speaker 2: She's twenty one now.

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Speaker 1: That is incredible. Yeah, Shook joined us at NFL dot com.

696
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Speaker 1: I was probably two or three years deep at that point.

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Speaker 1: I hired Shook. What was it twenty fourteen, twenty fifty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the question that always sticks with me is

699
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Speaker 2: when can you start, Greg asked, and I said, as

700
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Speaker 2: fast as I can drive across the country, and here

701
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Speaker 2: we are doing it remotely from across the country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you did. You did come though I missed

703
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Speaker 1: the the La Shook era because Shook it was a

704
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: younger Shook. He was mixing it up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: How long was the interview? And what do you remember

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Speaker 1: from our interview?

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Speaker 2: It was Mike Coppinger asking me what do you know

708
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Speaker 2: about the job? And I said, which job that I

709
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Speaker 2: are we talking about? Because I applied for like seven

710
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: And then it was a call with you. And then

711
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Speaker 2: I think it was in the bag and I was

712
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Speaker 2: packed up and driving.

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Speaker 1: Well, what was it's a call? I'm asking do you

714
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Speaker 1: remember that? What was the call? Like, I have a

715
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Speaker 1: feeling I remember how it probably went?

716
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Speaker 2: God, I don't. I honestly don't remember because I was

717
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: just ecstatic about getting the job and ready to go.

718
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: It's something all along long you were just like kind

719
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: of covering the remaining bases. I don't know. It was

720
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Speaker 2: pretty easy. It was pretty simple.

721
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Speaker 1: Way my job interview style was always a vibe check.

722
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Speaker 1: Keisha and I have talked about this before. I've talked

723
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Speaker 1: to some other people I interviewed. I would very rarely

724
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Speaker 1: ask meaningful questions. I would just kind of just be like,

725
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Speaker 1: is this person like normal? Is this person calling? They

726
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: are going to be able to hang out, Just ask

727
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Speaker 1: like a few questions and try to get a little

728
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Speaker 1: bit of a vibe check. But I would not take

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Speaker 1: long because I felt awkward doing interviews. So generally I

730
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Speaker 1: feel like they were probably max. Fifteen minutes on the phone.

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Speaker 1: It was I didn't link. It was a rare time

732
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Speaker 1: where I didn't talk too much. I only talked too

733
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Speaker 1: much when we're talking talking ball. All right, let's get

734
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Speaker 1: back to the sixteen teams we have left in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: We're doing big needs for every team. And let's go

736
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Speaker 1: to the AFC South, the forgotten division, and it should

737
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: not be forgotten because the Houston Hexans put two minutes

738
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Speaker 1: on the clock there. Eric Houston Texans are a sleeping giant,

739
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: the team that everyone expected to make the leap last year,

740
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Speaker 1: which still ended up having a good enough season in

741
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Speaker 1: the scheme of things. Man, you look at the bones

742
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: of this team and it's pretty it's pretty good. Like

743
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Speaker 1: I think they could end up being the team everyone

744
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: expected a year later. Now The offensive line is obviously

745
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: where everyone is going to point to for screaming needs.

746
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: Interior offensive line is their number one need. I keep

747
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: saying that for teams right now. They have a couple

748
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Speaker 1: picks that they've taken, Titus Howard, they have Juice Struggs,

749
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Speaker 1: who was a second round pick a couple of years ago,

750
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Speaker 1: and then it's hilarious who they've added on their offensive line.

751
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: Just a bunch of guys, Cam Robinson, Lake and Tomlinson

752
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: who is with the Seahawks last but has started like

753
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: for six straight years, Cam Robinson who's always playing, Ed

754
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: Ingram who is a disappointment at Garden Minnesota, and Trent

755
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: Brown who's bounced around, was with the Bengals last is

756
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: now they're at So it's just like a ton of

757
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 1: guys that haven't played well recently and they're just hoping

758
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: the coaching can fix it. And I guess that's their

759
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 1: big need. And yet somehow I believe, because I really

760
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: think the rest of the roster is quite good. Do

761
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Speaker 1: you agree?

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah. The cynic in me says, this is

763
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: what we said last year. This is the team that

764
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 2: was going to make the leaf and be so good

765
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: and yet their offensive line undercut the entire operation. It

766
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: just at the knees down, and they still want a

767
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: playoff game. But they finished exactly where they did the

768
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: year before, and it felt like a bit of a

769
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: wasted season. But you change offensive coordinator, you change the

770
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 2: way you approach the offense, and you get a little

771
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Speaker 2: bit better on the offensive line, and suddenly they could

772
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Speaker 2: get much closer to reaching their potential. So I agree,

773
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Speaker 2: and I agree with the need as well. It's interior

774
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: offensive line. You talk about collecting lineman, keep collecting. This

775
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: is the draft to do it. And there's a ton

776
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Speaker 2: of talent on the interior offensive line. Go get two.

777
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: Why not give yourself a just a massive group of

778
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: linemen and see who's best battle royale for every position.

779
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: The the last man standing is the one who gets

780
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:02,479
Speaker 2: the starting job.

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00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: The argument against why not, and it's not a great one,

782
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: is that Cassario has been terrible drafting offensive lineman. Juice

783
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: Strugs second round pick, Blake Fisher second round pick did

784
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: not look good. They just traded a first round pick

785
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: Kenyan Green. But I really think, and I know we're

786
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: going over on the Texans. I don't care. Seth Payne.

787
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: I keep mentioning both Jordan Rodrigue and I are seth heads,

788
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: and you know he thought what happened last year with

789
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: that offensive line was a fireable offense for everyone. So

790
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: that them getting rid of Tunsil getting rid of the offense.

791
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: Every one was that associated. That was so bad that

792
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Speaker 1: I actually do believe with the right coaching and just

793
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: some journeyman players, you could maybe improve to twentieth. That's

794
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: how bad it was. I'm not worried about losing Laramie Tunzel.

795
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Speaker 1: I think it's somehow made sense with the picks that

796
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Speaker 1: they got back shook. You're up next, Go Colts.

797
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: Let's go Colts, Indianapolis Colts. We obviously know the questions

798
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: that exist at quarterback, but well, they had a defense

799
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: last year that got its defensive coordinator fired. And yes,

800
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 2: they were inconsistent on offense because of what they dealt

801
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: with it quarterback. But if you can round out this

802
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 2: team and keep games close, you can figure out whoever

803
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: it is under center, and then you can go win

804
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: games because you don't have to put up a ton

805
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: of points. So we're going to go on the defensive

806
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: side of the ball, and we're going to go for

807
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: again sounded like a broken record at this point. Linebacker

808
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: depth because if you look at this depth chart, they

809
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: could use more at the position, and most importantly, beyond

810
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: the fact that, yes, you have Zaia Franklin, but the

811
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: just the names that are there do not excite me.

812
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: Beyond them, I need better options there as well. But

813
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: it really comes down to lou Anaarumo is the coordinator

814
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: that I need him to pull out that magic wand

815
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Speaker 2: that had everybody with a twinkle in their eye a

816
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: couple of years ago about how he could get a

817
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: head coaching job. I need him to go reclaim and

818
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: save his reputation and turn this defense back into what

819
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: it was a few years ago and make it a

820
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Speaker 2: competitive unit.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to our lads, who the best site for

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Speaker 1: depth charts for officially going to just two linebackers for

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Speaker 1: most of these teams. I'm not going to say I

824
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: influenced that, but we have gone in that direction with

825
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: the projected starter series over the last few years. So

826
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Speaker 1: they're listing the five in the DB's room, and you're right,

827
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Speaker 1: they have one linebacker right now. It's Zire Franklin. Unless

828
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: they know something about last year's fifth round pick Jalen

829
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: Carlos that I don't know Carlisles who knows they need

830
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: a lot though I agree I wrote down linebacker. They

831
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: could use another cornerback even though they brought in charvarious word.

832
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: But a lot of people are projecting tight end to

833
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: them in the first round. That would be an interesting

834
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Speaker 1: way to get a weapon, and they are a team

835
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Speaker 1: that likes tight ends, and I could see that. I

836
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: could see them going tight end. I could see them

837
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Speaker 1: going tackle, like right tackle. They're not really sure what

838
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: they're getting with Braden Smith at this point. They could

839
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Speaker 1: use a guard like they could use a lot. It's

840
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: not a great roster.

841
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think the offensive line is taking

842
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: a few steps back over the last few years. Then

843
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: they let a few guys leave in freegency as well,

844
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Speaker 2: so that's definitely an area of concern where I think

845
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Speaker 2: they could address it.

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Speaker 1: So the Jaguars are up next, and I got into

847
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: a very mild disagreement with one of my favorite local

848
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Speaker 1: voices in the game, Mike Dempsey from Jacksonville. Believe he's

849
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Speaker 1: with ten ten xcel and even before free and say,

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Speaker 1: I was like, the Jaguars are so weird. Because I

851
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: actually don't think they have many needs. Like I don't

852
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: know if they're a great team, but they just don't

853
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: have like huge roster holes. They just they're kind of

854
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: like the very poor Man's Bills, where the Bills are

855
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: very good at a lot of positions but not great,

856
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars are very average at like every position,

857
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: but they're not terrible at almost any So I almost

858
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: thought like a third edge was the thing they needed

859
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: the most because Trayvon Walker maybe isn't going to be

860
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: there forever and they just don't have anyone there. They

861
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: could use another outside cornerback. I really believe if you

862
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: go through all these rosters except maybe Houston, like every team,

863
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: I could say cornerback. But I the hot take is

864
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: that the Jaguars are so vanilla. They don't have screaming needs.

865
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: They're just they're just very They're just like very ordinary.

866
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: They're better than their record was a year ago. They're

867
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: much more eight and nine to me, and they're just

868
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: very ordinary.

869
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually agree with that because I had the

870
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: same struggles trying to figure it out other than doing

871
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: the numbers at linebacker again, because they have four total

872
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: linebackers on the roster, and even if you went with

873
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: two positions, there's just not a lot of guys. I

874
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: will say, I do like their top three with Follo Aluken,

875
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd and Chad Muma. That's a better group than

876
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: some other teams. But yeah, I agree, And even if

877
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: you look at the receiving corps, you love Brian Thomas, Junior,

878
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: Parker Washington randomly steps up in key spots. Sometimes they

879
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: got they still have Gabe Davis, and they get Diami

880
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: Brown the offseason they could use I wouldn't even necessarily

881
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: say they need a receiver, but you're right, they're so

882
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 2: vanilla they could take additions anywhere without having any screaming needs.

883
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: You know what they need. They need their quarterback to

884
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: play a full season and show a step forward in Trevor. Okay,

885
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: that's what they need now.

886
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing I was mentioning with the Bills that was, like, man,

887
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: you need some real difference makers. The Jaguars need above

888
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: average players, so I keep saying their average so they

889
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: don't have needs, but that also means you have needs

890
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: almost everywhere except your starting edges like defensive tackle could

891
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: still be upgraded significantly. Wide receiver could too. Like running back,

892
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: you're set there I think this season at least, but

893
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: your tackles, like, there's almost nothing that you couldn't try

894
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: to improve, So the board is open for you. James Gladstone,

895
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: all right, let's finish up the AFC South with Titans.

896
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: All right? They need a planet quarterback? Is it cam Moard?

897
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: Is it Will Levis getting some sort of camp competition

898
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: or at least being on the roster and intriguing enough

899
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: people for them to remember that he exists. Like, you

900
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: need a plan. I just need a plan under center.

901
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: And if you're gonna draft cam Ward, don't throw them

902
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: into a disaster scenario that you know, derails his career,

903
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 2: because that would be the worst possible outcome for a

904
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: club that needs stability at the position otherwise. You know,

905
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 2: like we had some mocks early in the offseason where

906
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: folks were like Abdul Carter could go there. I like

907
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 2: their defensive front, I really do. I mean, Jeffy's Sims

908
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 2: as a monster to Andandre Sweat's a stud. You could

909
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: take some improvements and interior linebacker. They've had a lot

910
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: of guys come in and out of there in recent years,

911
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 2: but I'm not worried about the departure of Harold Landry.

912
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: That's not a big deal for me. I just think

913
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: that offense, they should have been a better team they

914
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: were last year. They just self sabotaged so much offensively

915
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: that they lost a lot of close games. If you

916
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: improve that, then you're in a much better spot.

917
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: And yet they're They're another team that, like I didn't

918
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: feel better about them after going through this exercise. Any

919
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: any team's gonna feel look better with cam Ward on

920
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: the team. And he was doing his pro day as

921
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: we're taping this, and there's some great videos of him

922
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: throwing on the move and you could actually see Mike

923
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: Bergonzi the Titans GM kind of reacting to some of them.

924
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he's too good to pass on, but they've

925
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: fixed in their minds the offensive line in front of him.

926
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: I think that's the way they would try to support him.

927
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: But you also need some weapons, and they don't really

928
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: have enough, so they need wide receivers to in their defenses.

929
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: It's fine, you're hoping for a turnaround at cornerback with

930
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: legit need, but they need off ball linebackers. That's another one.

931
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: They need edges like they need a lot. It's not

932
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: a great team, and.

933
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: They're not a team that has made smart decisions at

934
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: receiver to begin with. Like they went and got Ridley

935
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: and he was like a non factor half for half

936
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: the season. They trailing. Burke's is still on the roster

937
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: and he's never gonna be what they thought he was.

938
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 2: And then your third is Van Jefferson, Like it's not exciting.

939
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: Nick Musburg Kakine, who I thought was my favorite receiver

940
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: on that team last year is now somewhere else. So yeah,

941
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: the weapons they need to improve that, I.

942
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: Mean, it's like, yeah, I think they were with the

943
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: Patriots as the two least talented teams in the NFL

944
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: last year. But the difference is the Patriots have Drake May.

945
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: So the Titans answer by getting near Drake May in

946
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: cam Warden and hope for the best. We'll see. Let's

947
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: start the AFC West. I will go with the Broncos.

948
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: I would say other than the Raiders, all the AFC

949
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: West looked better on paper to me than I expected,

950
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: So the Broncos are included in that. I think they

951
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: just need to juice up the offense wide receiver. After

952
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton They have a a handful of guys that

953
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: would make sense as role players on a playoff team,

954
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: with Marvin Mims and vle who played last year and

955
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: was pretty good as a rookie. But they don't have

956
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: difference makers. So whether it's a tight end to go

957
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 1: over the top of Evid Ingram that seems a little

958
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: weird to me, or it's a wide receiver, or it's

959
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: a running back, like they need weapons with bo Nicks,

960
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: that's where I think they start.

961
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: I thought I was going to get some Devon Vley

962
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: slander in here, and I was going to be very upset.

963
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: No, he'e good, But like, is he you're two moving forward?

964
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: I don't know.

965
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: He's a three. He's a concrete three at a pretty good three.

966
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: The answer is running back, greg They had no running game.

967
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: They had no running game last year. Javonte Williams was

968
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: a non factor for them. Jalil McLaughlin ends up getting

969
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: more of the looks than him anyway. Audre Estime is

970
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: a classic throwback power back and he's somebody that you

971
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: play on the goal line in short yard situations. But

972
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: that's not the answer. This is the draft buss again,

973
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: to go get running backs, and it kind of reminded

974
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 2: me of the Buccaneers. Last year, they were like thirty

975
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: second in the league in rushing yards per game. I

976
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: think it was eighty nine point eight or something like that.

977
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: Going to last year, they get Bucky Irving, a guy

978
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: who flew under a lot of radars, not mine, but

979
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: a lot of radars. He ends up having a great

980
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: rookie season. I could see something similar happening with this team.

981
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: And if you balance that out, Bonix becomes that much

982
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: more effective on the rollout, and we already know he's

983
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: really good out in space. So I think this could

984
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: be the key that unlocks that offense and suddenly we're

985
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: paying a lot more attention to them, even though we

986
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: were last year.

987
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, right tackle is a sneaky, other potential need. McGlinchey

988
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: was better for them last year, but that's not a

989
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: long term solution. Sean Payton loves to invest in offensive lines,

990
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: and for the most part, they already have there and

991
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: they're already good. But right tackle long term, but yeah, I.

992
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: Think that's a streaming need, that's a whispering need.

993
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: It's true, I kind of forgot the point of the segment.

994
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: Just go with the screaming needs. I don't even think

995
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: they love love Courtland Sun as a one, but that's

996
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: just my own vibe. All Right, you're up next. Go

997
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: let's go with the AFC champions, the Chiefs.

998
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: All Right, they obvious. This one's probably the most obvious

999
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: that we have out there. Well maybe not the most obvious,

1000
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: but one of them. They need better offensive line play,

1001
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: and they've had a lot of change in the offensive line,

1002
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 2: and frankly, I don't feel very good about all of them,

1003
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: or really any of them. Joe Toney's gone, Kingsleysuamataya is

1004
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 2: there and was not a good left tackle. They went

1005
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: and swung on Jalen Moore, who doesn't even have a

1006
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: large enough sample size as a starter to really be

1007
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: worth the money that he got, which you didn't get

1008
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: a ton, he got fifteen a year. I'm just very

1009
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: concerned about the left side of this line. There is

1010
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: only a certain amount of coaching that can be you know,

1011
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 2: an impact or you know, impressed upon an offensive line

1012
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: that breeds significant change, and I'm just not seeing it

1013
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,959
Speaker 2: in this personnel right now. So that is their number

1014
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: one need. They need to shore up left tackle and

1015
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: the rest of that group and let them compete because

1016
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: we learned that lesson the hard way in the Super Bowl,

1017
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: and if they want to continue to be that team,

1018
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: they got to protect Patrick Mahomes better than they did.

1019
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: I think they tried. They just this is their plan enough.

1020
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 2: They had a guard playing tackle in the freaking Super.

1021
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: Bowl, I hear you. And now they're going to have

1022
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: last year's pick a tackle, Sue Mattea, probably playing left guard.

1023
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: So yeah, they'll dip into this interior line class without

1024
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: a question. I don't think they will just.

1025
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: Move so that. I agree they're going to do interior

1026
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: let half.

1027
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: They were a team that going through this again, I

1028
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, this is actually a pretty

1029
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: good roster. Of course it is, like, but it's not

1030
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: just Patrick Mahomes. I don't think they have a ton

1031
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: of screaming needs. Like I think they might want to

1032
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: look ahead at running back. Pacheco's getting to the end

1033
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: of his contract and wasn't great last year. I think

1034
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: they could use someone next to Chris Jones, you know,

1035
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: on the other side of Carl loftis so but these

1036
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: aren't screaming. They're just like kind of whispering, like they

1037
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: lost the safety and justin Reeds. It's a pretty good team.

1038
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: It's a lot of players who have played and won

1039
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: a lot of big time games. They actually have pretty

1040
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: good continuity. I think they're in fine shape. I'm not

1041
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: going to be panicking about the Chiefs.

1042
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 2: I'm just worried about their offensive line. But you know me.

1043
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: Left tack last week, I was panicking about them, But

1044
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: now I'm no longer panicking. All right. The Raiders were

1045
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: one of the teams in this exercise put two minutes

1046
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: on the clock. Oh, we got in right under the gun.

1047
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: They were one of the teams in this exercise that

1048
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: I feel worse about because you could make the argument

1049
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: that Gino plus Carol plus vibes equals a much improved team.

1050
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: And I would buy that argument in terms of they

1051
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: just they win seven or eight games just off the vibes.

1052
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: But they've actually gotten worse on defense this year. At linebacker,

1053
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: it's a land In Roberts and not much else. They

1054
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: lost some good players in the secondary. But I actually

1055
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: go to number my My screaming need is wide receiver.

1056
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: Your number one is Jacoby Myers on the last year

1057
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: of his contract, and your number two is Trey Tucker,

1058
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: and I know, I know brock Bauers is your number one.

1059
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: I don't care you still have no long term wide

1060
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: receivers on the roster. Myers was being mentioned in potential

1061
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: trade talks like that could that wouldn't even shock me

1062
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: if that happened during the draft. So wide receiver is

1063
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: my screaming need.

1064
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree that going back to free agency fits

1065
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 2: that I ran last week. I got lit up online

1066
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: for this a little bit, and I understand why. But

1067
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: what's the one thing you want to give Gino in

1068
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 2: a new place. You want to give him a veteran

1069
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: receiver he can trust to get open and run the

1070
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 2: routes and establish a quick rapport with and Keenan Allen's

1071
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: out there and May last year, in the second half

1072
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: of the season had some of the smallest pass catchers

1073
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: outside of brock Bauers that I've seen in a long time.

1074
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: Jacoby Myers and Keenan Allen would now be giving you

1075
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: two guys six two or taller. So let's go with that.

1076
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: I know Vegas isn't the place he wants to end

1077
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: his career, spend the twilight of his career, but at

1078
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: least he can go there knowing I'm going to go

1079
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: play for Pete Carroll and I'm going to go catch

1080
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: passes for Gino Smith, So it could be worse than

1081
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: what I'm faced with right now. I like that idea.

1082
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be Keenan Allen, but it's got

1083
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: to be talent receiver. And oh, by the way, have

1084
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: you looked at their running back room, because I'm sorry,

1085
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure Raheem Moster turned into a bit

1086
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: of a goal line merchant last year and that is

1087
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: not a bell cow back in that backfield.

1088
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: I hate that they need a running back going into

1089
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: the draft. It's a great draft for it, but they

1090
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: have to get a starter that's going to take up

1091
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: one of their picks. I wonder when you get grief

1092
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: online from people, do you ever just think to yourself, like,

1093
00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: how big are these people?

1094
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: More they actually what I love about this show is

1095
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: win and I'm not a comment reader, but every once

1096
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: in a while I've caught one and then somebody immediately

1097
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: jumps to my defense is like, do you know how

1098
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: big this guy is? I'm like, all right, cool, I

1099
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: didn't have to say it.

1100
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: Let's wrap it up with our final team my hometown.

1101
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: This is my hometown now, I feel like it should

1102
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: be your hometown once you've lived there for like thirteen

1103
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: straight years.

1104
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: It's my second home two years.

1105
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: That could be another way to do it, Los Angeles Chargers,

1106
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: let's go.

1107
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I hate to say it and sound

1108
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: it again, but defensive line depth is a need. Morgan

1109
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: Fox is no longer there, Poona Ford is no longer there.

1110
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: We got some needs on that defensive front, folks. And

1111
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: if you're going to continue to be the gritty, tough,

1112
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: physical Chargers of the Jim Harbaugh era, you're going to

1113
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: need a little bit more upfront. Like Scott Mattlock, who

1114
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: is one of my favorite guys who like moonlights as

1115
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: a fullback is also this is a defensive end of

1116
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: their start lineup right now. I need more bodies up there.

1117
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: I'm fine with the rest of their defense, there are

1118
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 2: some needs back there. You know, the way that their

1119
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: secondary is shaken out over the last few years is

1120
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: not super inspiring. Obviously, we know they like Dyon Henley

1121
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: at linebacker. It starts at the front, though for me, defensively,

1122
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: they got to get better there and then kind of

1123
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: let the offense figure itself out.

1124
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. They've made so many players look better

1125
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: than they had been previously last year, but you can't

1126
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: count on that. They've had a quieter offseason than I expected.

1127
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: Ton of salary cap space, like way too much. But

1128
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: they are kind of resembling what the Ravens do. Joejortiz

1129
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: comes from the Ravens, their general manager. They look like

1130
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: they're playing the compensatory pick game, like they want to

1131
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: get some compensatory picks. So that you look at who

1132
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: they've signed, it's it's not a lot of hugely productive players.

1133
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 1: Makai Becton last year, Tyler Kanklin, Najia Harris, like these

1134
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: kind of B level They've been looking for values and

1135
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: they need some young defensive players that they can build

1136
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: around that are their guys. They found a couple of

1137
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: cornerbacks in the mid to eight rounds last year, that's

1138
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: about it, that are really like Harbaugh guys.

1139
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think if you're going

1140
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: to continue to be this defense inner, Jesse Mintter, you're

1141
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: just gonna need more NFL talent. I'm not necessarily saying

1142
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: we're aiming for blue chip guys because there's only so

1143
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: many of those in a draft. But their identity last

1144
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 2: year was playing solid defense of being a tough team,

1145
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: and you got to be better on paper in order

1146
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: to continue being that team. So hopefully they end up

1147
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 2: doing exactly what you just said and they make their

1148
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: money in the draft and go from there.

1149
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: But right now, incomplete picture, incomplete picture. But they've earned

1150
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. So have you Shook. Look

1151
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: when you got drafted to NFL dot Com way back

1152
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, one of the best value pickups this

1153
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: company has ever had.

1154
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, man, Oh god, I don't know if kind

1155
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: of words ever been said about me. I think you

1156
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: as always for the opportunity ten eleven years ago and

1157
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: right now, okay, we.

1158
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: Got to get you back out hu here, Well let's talk.

1159
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: Let's talk off the show about that h bringing Shook

1160
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: back to la We will be back our next show

1161
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: with Jordan Rodrigue and Colleen Wolf. Very excited about this one.

1162
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: And yes, when when Shook and I are going down

1163
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: memory lane remembering twenty fifteen, it was ten years ago

1164
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: and football is back