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Speaker 2: Bad football, bad uniforms, Dolphins hold off the Jets, big news.

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Speaker 2: Tyreek kill his season is done, dislocated, his knees, got

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Speaker 2: torn ligaments as well. Broncos embarrassed the Bengals twenty eight

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Speaker 2: to three. The Bengals. They had more penalties than first

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Speaker 2: downs last night. And I will say it once again,

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Speaker 2: you don't want to waste a season, and that's what

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Speaker 2: you're going to do. You lose Joe Burrow, you can't

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Speaker 2: replace him, But can you get a reasonable fact simile?

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Speaker 2: Can you get somebody who is a starting quarterback? And

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Speaker 2: that is Kirk Cousins or Russell Wilson. If not, you've

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Speaker 2: already punted on the season. And you saw that last night.

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Speaker 2: That was not football. It felt like there was one

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Speaker 2: NFL team on the field and then there was a

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Speaker 2: college football team. This was really it was ugly and

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Speaker 2: even Troy Aikman was voicing his displeasure with watching bad football.

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Speaker 2: The Jets are just dumb. You know, I'm watching the game.

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Speaker 2: You can't get to the line of scrimmage on time

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Speaker 2: falls starts. They could easily be two and two. They

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Speaker 2: could be now they're zero and four. They don't feel

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Speaker 2: zero and four. And the Dolphins you get a win,

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Speaker 2: but you lose Tyreek Hill, and that's one of those

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Speaker 2: it's not just a season that you lose him. Now

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Speaker 2: you start to think about a bigger picture here for

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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill, that kind of injury coming back from those injuries.

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Speaker 2: Even if he does this doesn't feel like it's a

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Speaker 2: one year that he'll be out. So the Dolphins hold

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Speaker 2: off the Jets and they win it. Broncos get the win.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to assess the Broncos when you play in

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Speaker 2: a game like that because the Bengals are just bad.

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Speaker 2: It looked like they were disinterested. It's hard to you know,

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Speaker 2: you would think, you go, okay, it's Week four, like well, okay,

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Speaker 2: we'd be playing the NFL, we're in prime time. Let's

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Speaker 2: go out there and ply. And it just felt like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: we'll go through the motions here. And Jamar Chase is

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Speaker 2: not a happy camper. He confronted his head coach. But

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Speaker 2: then his head coach was like, That's why I love Jamar.

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Speaker 2: You know, he cares, he's fire, he's you know all

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Speaker 2: this stuff. I'm like, no, no, he's actually really really

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Speaker 2: angry here. How are you going to solve that? And

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Speaker 2: Jake Browning was vanilla generic, but it's not all on him.

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Speaker 2: I mean that was you know, all three phases that

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Speaker 2: the Bengals just not a good football team. And you know,

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Speaker 2: when you start to think about the numbers here in

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Speaker 2: the previous nine years, the Bengals have had fewer than

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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five yards of offense two times

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Speaker 2: in nine years. They've done so three times in the

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Speaker 2: you do the honors? For a poll question for hour one?

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Speaker 3: The Jets are better than their record or who we

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Speaker 3: thought they were?

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Speaker 2: I think they're both. I think they're better than their record,

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Speaker 2: but they're who I thought they'd be. Aaron Glenn, you know,

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Speaker 2: brings in culture. He's a former player and trying to

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Speaker 2: bring in that Dan Campbell culture. And it's going to

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Speaker 2: take a while, but you'd got to get rid of

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Speaker 2: the stupid penalties. You may not be as good as

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Speaker 2: the opposition, but don't beat yourself. And I think there

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Speaker 2: were three penalties in a span of four plays. I go,

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Speaker 2: if you can't get out of the huddle and get

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Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage on time, how about you

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Speaker 2: move your huddle two yards closer to the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so your eight yards back?

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Speaker 2: Like what are you doing? And once again I'm a

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Speaker 2: Justin Field's apologist. I think he has talent. I think

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Speaker 2: he's been bounced around with coaches and coordinators. I think

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson lte. You know, he can run the ball.

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Speaker 2: they got one receiver. They got Garrett Wilson. That's it now,

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Speaker 2: he's great. But other than that, I mean, Breece Hall

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Speaker 2: But you know, the Jets should be a little more formidable,

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Speaker 2: and they could have won that game last night. It's

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Speaker 2: not like the Dolph were dominating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Seaton, they so far the Jets. Week one they

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Speaker 3: lost thirty four to thirty two to Pittsburgh. The Week

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Speaker 3: two was thirty to ten Buffalo, all right, but then

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Speaker 3: twenty nine to twenty seven to Tampa, and now twenty

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Speaker 3: all very close games for the most part.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Poly.

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Speaker 4: You know what's gonna happen here. The Jets right now

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Speaker 4: have the second pick of the draft. They'll be a

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Speaker 4: this thing all over again. Because they have no money

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Speaker 4: really invested in fields, they can easily move on from them,

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Speaker 4: and theyil the cycle of the Jets going with a

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Speaker 2: What other pole questions do you have, Seaton.

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Speaker 3: Let's see, we've got a couple here from the t dub.

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Speaker 3: We have a couple of poll questions that are all

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Speaker 3: sort of in the similar vein. But it's not even October,

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Speaker 3: which NFL team has already mostly done. Bengals, Jets, Saints,

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Speaker 3: Titans might as well. This is a little bit of

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Speaker 3: we also have from Paul which team feels like the

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Speaker 2: I would say the Titans, they just feel like they're

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Speaker 2: just lost. It's like, you know, maybe we'll regroup next year,

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Speaker 2: but they're going to be one of those teams that

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Speaker 2: where was this all year? It feels like like Carolina

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Speaker 2: they're going toe to toe with the Chiefs. Where's that been?

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Speaker 2: It's weird how it clicks sometimes and you don't know

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Speaker 5: In the Titans case, it's going to be a lot

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Speaker 5: They played the Chiefs really well. They didn't win, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Saints are bad, but it doesn't they don't feelize

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Speaker 2: That's different. But Dylan Gabriel, he's going to get the

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Speaker 2: wonder is Joe Flacco going to stay on on the roster.

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Speaker 2: It feels like he needs to be there. You have

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Speaker 2: to have a grown up in the room with the

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Speaker 2: I would look at maybe joining another team if you

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Speaker 2: And then Shador Sanders does he get to come on

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Speaker 2: baseball coming up this afternoon and tonight we'll recap what

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Speaker 2: happened last night and Tyreek Hill not only the dislocation

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Speaker 2: morning that it's more than just a dislocation. Any other

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Speaker 2: poll questions that you're considering their seating.

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Speaker 3: Well, we got one sort of a negative one here

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Speaker 3: from Todd MLB Wildcard rounds question mark, let's go, I'll

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Speaker 3: glance at it. Have it on in the background of

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Speaker 3: the divisional round.

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Speaker 6: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: No, I think these are great matchups Tigers Guardians.

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Speaker 6: I doesn't think so.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, No, I.

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Speaker 7: Didn't make my vote.

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Speaker 8: I'm throwing that out as choices for anybody.

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Speaker 9: For me, I'll I'm not going to be watching every

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Speaker 2: What is what is your vote?

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Speaker 9: My vote would be uh, I will be taking periodic

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Speaker 9: peaks in the background. As opposed to let's go starting

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Speaker 9: today Wildcard. I'm just I'm being honest, and I love baseball.

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Speaker 9: I loved it more in the seventies and eighties.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think anybody says let's go. Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: says let's I'm Grady, like, do you walk in and

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Speaker 2: turn on the TV and go, let's go.

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Speaker 6: I'm a big let's go Guyyah.

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Speaker 8: To admit for Bronco games.

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Speaker 9: Everything else says no. But I'll definitely have it on.

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Speaker 9: But I'm not going to sit there watching everything.

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Speaker 2: But if the Astros were in it.

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Speaker 9: Even the Astros, you know, because we know I'm a

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Speaker 9: fake fan and you are, they cheated, they didn't cheat.

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Speaker 8: I was more of an asher fen in the eighties

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Speaker 8: Tigers Guardians.

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Speaker 2: That's entertaining. Big collapse by the Tigers.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Padres of the Cubs nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 8: Let's go God, No, Dad, I can't believe you said that.

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Speaker 2: Red Sox Yankees, Yeah uh, and then reds at the Dodgers. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it'd be fun. I'm excited about it. Let's go.

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Speaker 9: Yeah it to flip the switch though, a little bit

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Speaker 9: like we none of us don't think watch that much

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Speaker 9: baseball on a regular basis, and now, especially with the

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Speaker 9: NFL and college football and basketball and hockey right around

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Speaker 9: the corner, can you flip the switch from I took

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Speaker 9: a peek here and there at you know, the fifth

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Speaker 2: That with college basketball?

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Speaker 8: College basketball, I watched the good amount of college basket.

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Speaker 2: You wait till March.

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Speaker 8: I watched a lot more from March.

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Speaker 10: Menis for sure.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: NBA, that's yeah, that's a lot more exciting than the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: It is more exciting, So that's what most people.

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Speaker 3: Say the playoffs to be fair, though, the NBA playoffs

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Speaker 3: are almost four months long, so it is like a

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Speaker 3: whole season in and of itself that you can skip

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Speaker 3: the first one and be like, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Gonna watch the second season. I don't know it starts

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Speaker 2: and I go, let's go, yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, baseball has instant urgency. They also schedule it so

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Speaker 2: By the way, I did mention the uniforms. Broncos, stop

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Speaker 5: Yes, Marmon, the Broncos lost me as soon as I

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Speaker 9: Ye, crush, come on, Yes, and you try to sell

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Speaker 2: I watched that channel. I think growing up it blew. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And the Broncos they just relaunched their uniforms

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh had a interesting back and forth with Marvin

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Speaker 2: six feet tall, you're tall, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 8: But I've never no one's ever called me sure, but

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're around short people.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that, Marvin, Yes, he said to Paul.

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Speaker 2: He stopped. Yeah, yeah, wrong, Okay, but you're you're not

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Speaker 8: I'm not short though.

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Speaker 7: Eh?

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Speaker 8: He's not six feet tall on the dot.

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Speaker 2: All right, then you're at you're a little above average.

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Speaker 8: Five. If I was five nine, I'm not tall.

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Speaker 7: Yes.

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Speaker 6: He's significantly above average. But he's inches.

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Speaker 6: He is compared to someone who's five to nine.

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Speaker 3: No, but I'm someone who is slightly taller than six

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Speaker 8: You were tall.

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Speaker 2: I'm still taller than you. I'm still taller than you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Paul, I had the definition of tall in the

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Speaker 2: Who considers Marvin tall in this room?

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Speaker 9: Todd does, because I'm like five ten, maybe five ten

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Speaker 9: So six feet I think once you hit six, oh,

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Speaker 8: You're above average height.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty.

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Speaker 8: But I'm not sure though, but you're not tall.

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Speaker 2: You're above average piece of chock clip.

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Speaker 2: But people try to glom on to six feet. You know.

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Speaker 6: Not everybody could be six feet.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, not everybody could be that tall.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm sorry. Okay, you can't be tall. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: All right, it's okay, but I just want to set

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Speaker 8: Alright, you said it like you were shack.

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Speaker 2: I'm Victor wembn Yama.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of It's kind of like how gigantic my

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Speaker 3: our Seatan's hands big? Or am I tall?

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Speaker 8: Setans hands?

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Speaker 6: Are these myths? These myths compared to you.

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Speaker 8: Look at those bear claws?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, some of the biggest hands that I've ever seen.

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Speaker 5: The whole question, bigger moment for seating birth of his son.

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Speaker 6: My hands being not even close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one that made him cry a.

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Speaker 6: Time, best dub I've ever taken by far.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You went into that game, you know, like you were

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Speaker 3: That might be the reason why we never win a

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Speaker 3: Sports Tommy is because the universe just can't give so

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Speaker 6: Bigger hands and the sports Emmy no way.

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports Westwood One, NFL college football analyst and host

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Speaker 2: of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. He called the Titans

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Speaker 2: Texans game and he's got Niners rams on Thursday and

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Speaker 12: Has not been a very good two weeks for them,

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Speaker 12: the Texans game was really disappointing, just to get shut

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Speaker 12: the fourth quarter. I mean, what's crazy, Dan, is it

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Speaker 7: Neither team had made a trip to the red zone yet.

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Speaker 12: And I'm the one that has to talk about the

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Speaker 12: and then all of a sudden, the floodgates just opened

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Speaker 7: Drives and how many of that?

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Speaker 7: You know, they're making changes, there's all kinds of.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching the Bengals like last night, and it was

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Speaker 2: And you know, the Broncos do what you need to do,

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Speaker 7: Well, they're not winning that division.

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Speaker 12: You know, I don't know who they could bring in

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Speaker 7: You know, maybe it's Russell Wilson, maybe it's.

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Speaker 12: Jamis, you know, I don't know who they could bring in,

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Speaker 12: I'm surprised. I thought Browning would play better than this.

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Speaker 7: But they look like a defeated bunch.

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Speaker 12: To get blown out like they did by the Vikings,

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Speaker 12: That's a totally different game, way more entertaining. You could

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Speaker 12: I can't even imagine how much better the ratings would

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Speaker 12: What do you think, Well, I don't think we'll ever

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Speaker 12: I think he's the fastest human being I've ever seen

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Speaker 12: It's just I mean, this offseason, for the heck of it,

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Speaker 7: But Chubb isn't what he was in Cleveland, and.

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Speaker 12: It's especially at his age, highly unlikely Tyreek Kill will

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Speaker 12: be he what he's been all these years, which is

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Speaker 12: sad because yeah, he really is, you know, and he's

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Speaker 12: had his you know, his issues off the field and

441
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Speaker 12: all that stuff well documented, but he is up there

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Speaker 12: among the most entertaining and best deep threats that we've

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Speaker 12: ever seen in the sport. It's been incredibly fun to

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Speaker 12: watch him play for years.

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Speaker 2: Is there a label on the MetLife Stadium turf? You know,

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Speaker 2: Malik Neighbors getting injured there. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 2: a reputation for these kind of injuries, you.

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Speaker 7: Know where I think it is too.

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Speaker 12: I think perception is reality, and I don't mean that

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Speaker 12: the perception can cause the injury. But there's no question

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Speaker 12: among fans, media players in the NFL there's a belief

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Speaker 12: that I mean, most guys don't like turf, period, but

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Speaker 12: there's a belief that in particular the MetLife Stadium turf,

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Speaker 12: that there's an issue there.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 12: This just kind of adds to the ledger of really

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Speaker 12: non contact injuries on that surface that haven't looked good,

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Speaker 12: that that guys don't like. And so I think that

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Speaker 12: the Giants and Jets really need to do something about this.

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Speaker 12: I don't know that it's so far that it affects

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Speaker 12: them in free agency or guys signing there, but it's

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Speaker 12: not a good thing to have hanging over your franchise.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 12: I don't even if they just change it to a

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Speaker 12: different turf, you know, and I know I think they

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Speaker 12: said two years ago, maybe they put a new one in.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 12: I just think there's a there's a very negative perception

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Speaker 12: about the met Life turf that's not gonna not going

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Speaker 12: for met Life knocking for the Giants or Jets, that's

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Speaker 12: for sure.

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Speaker 2: Ross Tucker, he'll be on the call Thursday night Niners

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Speaker 2: and the Rams. You can check out his podcast, Ross

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Speaker 2: Tucker Football Podcast. You're Close to the Eagles. Help me

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Speaker 2: understand aj Brown saying that he didn't want to talk

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Speaker 2: to reporters postgame A short time later, he posted a

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Speaker 2: quote from the Bible. If you're not welcome, not listen

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Speaker 2: to quietly withdrawal, don't make a scene, shrug your shoulders

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Speaker 2: and be on your way. Read between the lines.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but by posting that, oh, I know, isn't he

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Speaker 7: making a scene? Yes? I'm so confused.

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Speaker 12: I like, I like by posting that he's necessarily making

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Speaker 12: a scene.

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Speaker 7: I'm not a fan of it.

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Speaker 12: I mean, they threw him the ball nine times, So

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Speaker 12: nine times they threw them ball nine times. I really

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Speaker 12: don't get what he's so upset about. I mean, hurts

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Speaker 12: missed him on a couple throws. You know, the week

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Speaker 12: before he had six catches for over one hundred yards

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Speaker 12: just in.

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Speaker 7: The second half against the Rams.

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Speaker 12: I just look forget aj Brown right in general, I'm

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Speaker 12: just not I don't believe that's how you handle things, right, Like,

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Speaker 12: can you imagine, like what if I started after this segment?

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Speaker 12: You know, if I don't like the questions that you

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Speaker 12: asked me during this segment, Dan, Can I if I

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Speaker 12: if I made some vague social posts like not going

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Speaker 12: on shows.

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Speaker 7: Anymore unless the host knows what's up, you know what

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Speaker 7: I mean? Like like if I had an issue with you.

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Speaker 7: You know, I would. I would text you or email.

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Speaker 12: You'd be like, hey, I wouldn't like that line of questioning,

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Speaker 12: or hey can we talk? And I would you and

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Speaker 12: I you and I would talk about it, and I'd say,

505
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Speaker 12: remember two years ago when you hammered me on the

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Speaker 12: Taysom Hill thing, which I didn't have a problem with,

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Speaker 12: but if I did, I would like I would talk

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Speaker 12: to you about it.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 12: I wouldn't like have these like, uh, these vague posts

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Speaker 12: you know that people are trying to interpret. I just

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Speaker 12: I don't think that's a good or healthy way for

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Speaker 12: anyone to go through life unless you want the attention

514
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Speaker 12: and you're you're looking for the publicity and the social

515
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Speaker 12: media and the discussion. And maybe that's the game. Maybe

516
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Speaker 12: he already talks to Sirianni and talks to Hurtz and

517
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Speaker 12: handles things the right way behind closed doors, but still

518
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Speaker 12: wants to do this just for his Q rating or

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Speaker 12: whatever they call when you get more, more impressions more.

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Speaker 12: I don't know, maybe this is a social media thing. Mean,

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Speaker 12: last year, the guy was reading a book on the bench,

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Speaker 12: which I've never seen before in my entire life.

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Speaker 7: So he's a unique guy. He is an awesome, awesome

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Speaker 7: football player, but pretty clearly a unique guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah but okay, you're winning defending champs, and I just

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Speaker 2: you're on a team that's not going to throw the

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Speaker 2: ball a lot.

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Speaker 12: Like undefeated defending's Foot Bowl champions. He makes thirty three

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Speaker 12: million dollars a year. They gave him a new cut

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Speaker 12: when he had two years up on his other contract.

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Speaker 12: I I would cut off like that far on my

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Speaker 12: pinky right there for the people watching on Peacock.

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Speaker 7: I cut up that much on my pinky to be

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Speaker 7: as unhappy as AJ Brown like like to like, let

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Speaker 7: me let me experience this pain and suffering that AJ

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Speaker 7: Brown is suffering right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do we do with ties during the regular

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Speaker 2: season in the NFL?

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, you know I hadn't.

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Speaker 12: I didn't listen yesterday, So I don't know where you

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Speaker 12: stand on this. I this would be my You know

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Speaker 12: how people say if you were a commissioner for a day, ross,

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Speaker 12: what would be the first thing? This would be the

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Speaker 12: first thing. I despise ties. First of all, it's Unamerican. Okay. Secondly,

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Speaker 12: you know the issue, the biggest issue I have with

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Speaker 12: ties is this Everybody feels like they lost.

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Speaker 7: Everybody feels like they lost the game. Not a single.

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Speaker 12: Cowboys player or coach was happy in the locker room.

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Speaker 12: Not a single Packers player or coach. I think I

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Speaker 12: never had a problem with sudden death. I think college

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Speaker 12: overtime's amazing. You know that Penn State Oregon game. Okay,

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Speaker 12: you know, Dan, I live in central Pennsylvania. Everybody I

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Speaker 12: knew went to the game and whatever. At the end

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Speaker 12: of that game, all the Penn State fans, the players,

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Speaker 12: the coaches, absolute devastation.

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Speaker 7: The Oregon players, coaches.

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Speaker 12: Ecstatic, gigantic win, something they'll remember for the rest their lives.

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Speaker 12: You know what nobody talks about for the rest of

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Speaker 12: their lives. A tie, you know, like, nothing like That's

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Speaker 12: That's why we even play sports, right, the thrill of victory,

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Speaker 12: the agony of defeat, to feel alive, to feel like

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Speaker 12: we're doing something. Special Ties are terrible, and we're gonna

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Speaker 12: have more of them. We're gonna have more of them

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Speaker 12: with the new rule that both teams get the ball

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Speaker 12: no matter what. And I don't know what Matt the.

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Speaker 7: Floor was doing at the end of that game.

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Speaker 12: It's like he was so afraid that Brandon Aubrey might

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Speaker 12: hit a seventy five yard field goal with five seconds

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Speaker 12: left that he played for the tie, which, to be honest,

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Speaker 12: I hope it comes back to bite him later in

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Speaker 12: the year because I despise that mindset that they got

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Speaker 12: two plays off after they called time out with thirty

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Speaker 12: two seconds left.

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Speaker 7: Two plays.

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Speaker 2: Take take a breath.

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Speaker 12: I really don't like to You had a pro tie guy,

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Speaker 12: are you like a Seaton's probably.

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Speaker 2: A fun tie guy. No, we like pks. We were

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Speaker 2: thinking about having the kickers have a kickoff where they

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Speaker 2: started maybe the fifty and then they go to the

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Speaker 2: fifty five, and then the sixty and then the first

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Speaker 2: one to lose or miss or the first one to

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Speaker 2: hit it they win.

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Speaker 12: College ot but started the thirty five or go back

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Speaker 12: to sudden death, which incidentally is what overtime when I

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Speaker 12: played was. When I played for seven years, I never

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Speaker 12: not once heard one player or coach complain about sudden

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Speaker 12: death overtime.

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Speaker 7: You know that it's sudden death.

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Speaker 12: Win in regulation, and then if it gets to sudden death,

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Speaker 12: get a stop.

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Speaker 7: Man. I'm bothered. I'm bothered by ties, as you can tell.

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Speaker 2: Are the Chiefs back.

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Speaker 12: They're getting there, and I think they'll be fully back

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Speaker 12: when they get Rashi Rice back from suspension.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but where if you have Buffalo at one? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: where's Kansas City two?

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Speaker 7: Oh? Okay?

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I don't know what's going on with the Ravens right now.

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Speaker 12: That's a bad situation. I don't believe in the Steelers.

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Speaker 12: I think that the Chargers losing alt now for a

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Speaker 12: few weeks really hurts them. I think the only other

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Speaker 12: team that's up there with the Chiefs and the Bills.

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Speaker 12: Believe it or not, I think the Indianapolis Colts might

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Speaker 12: be that good. You know, if a d Mitchell doesn't

607
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Speaker 12: cost them two touchdowns on Sunday they win at LA

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Speaker 12: against the Rams to get to undefeated. I mean, that's

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Speaker 12: why I think they had the Colts today on the

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Speaker 12: Rothhucker podcast Powerings, I might had them fifth. I'm a

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Speaker 12: big time believer right now in the Indianapolis Colts, even

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Speaker 12: though they lost that game.

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Speaker 2: Safe travels. Thanks for joining us as always, all right,

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Speaker 2: thank you, mat that's Ross Tucker.

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Speaker 2: He's Harold Reynolds, three time goal Glove winner. In fact,

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Speaker 10: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Everything's great? Everything's great. Look at you on the set there,

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Speaker 2: ready for afternoon baseball? Suit and tie. Give me the

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Speaker 2: overall favorite in the playoffs.

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Speaker 10: Well, for me, the overall favorite is the Dodgers.

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Speaker 13: I mean you start looking at they got to August

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Speaker 13: into September, they got healthy, and they're the team to be.

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Speaker 13: The pitchings lined up, hitting, the offense, the whole, the

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Speaker 13: whole thing.

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Speaker 10: It's all there.

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Speaker 2: Why did they have a dip in pitching was a

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Speaker 2: real question mark for though.

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Speaker 13: You know, they went to some injuries. Obviously, Glass and

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Speaker 13: Now went out for a while. Snell started to season out. Uh,

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Speaker 13: Sasaki didn't throw like they thought he might. You know

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Speaker 13: my mooto midst time show, Hey star, that's it. It

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Speaker 13: was a litany of injuries. But now they're all lined up.

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Speaker 13: You're looking at Snell, Glass, now's not even scheduled to

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Speaker 13: throw the first round Kershaw either and you still so

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Speaker 13: you're looking at Yamamoto, Snell and Otani the first round,

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Speaker 13: so we'll see. I think the interesting thing Dan, real quick,

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Speaker 13: I'll throw this in is Otani.

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Speaker 10: If you look at the numbers the.

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Speaker 13: Day after he pitches, he's hitting like one thirty, and

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Speaker 13: so he will have he will pitch and have a

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Speaker 13: day off. And they figured out figured that out throughout

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Speaker 13: the course of the season that if we give him

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Speaker 13: a day off after he pitches, the next day, he's

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Speaker 13: back hitting and everything takes off.

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Speaker 10: So they're working that. You can look for that throughout

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Speaker 10: the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: We had Mark prior to the Dodgers pitching coach on

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Speaker 2: a little while ago, and he said that they would

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Speaker 2: entertain the idea of using Otani in relief. But it's

658
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: difficult to have somebody like when do you warm up?

659
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: And if he's warming up, you want him in. You're

660
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: going to have him out in the field. So I

661
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: think it's a little trickier. But the deeper they get

662
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: into the postseason, more likely or less likely to see

663
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: Otani out of the bullpen.

664
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 13: Well, you can see him out of the bullpen it's

665
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 13: different than when I was playing or when we were

666
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 13: around covering a.

667
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 10: Lot of baseball because of the facilities.

668
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 13: The Dodgers have had one hundred million dollar renovation to

669
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 13: the clubhouse. They have all the pitching mounds and everything

670
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 13: under there, so guys go underneath now can actually throw

671
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 13: and get ready without He can do that in between

672
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 13: innings and be ready to go out and warm up, so.

673
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 10: That that could be a reason that they could use

674
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 10: him out of the pen, which I hadn't thought about

675
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 10: before much.

676
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 2: But can you see a scenario where somebody wins somebody

677
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: else wins the MVP than Otani given the fact that

678
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: he does have that I'm pitching and hitting.

679
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 13: No, I mean, just the fact that he pitches is

680
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 13: a trump card. That's like, you, Dan, you can sue

681
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 13: pre throws, You're gonna win, right, I mean, like it's

682
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 13: the extra thing every year, every player knows they're going

683
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 13: up against it. I think you got a great argument

684
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 13: in the American League when you're looking at Cal Rawley

685
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 13: and Aaron Judge, and if one of those guys pitched,

686
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 13: it wouldn't be a conversation.

687
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: It is not. But you got one that catches, and

688
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: I think there should be added value to that. There

689
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: should be bonus points for cal Rawly.

690
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 13: I have cal Rawly winning it if he was not

691
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 13: a catcher. That's not a conversation. But for a catcher

692
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 13: to do what he's doing, catch and hit sixty home runs.

693
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 13: But on top of that, what's the job of the

694
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 13: catcher always been make sure your pitching staff is taken

695
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 13: care of. Your hitting is a bonus. Well, he had

696
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 13: a big time bonus and he's a Platinum Glove defender.

697
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 10: So I don't see the argument.

698
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 2: What Judge has gotten to that point, almost like Michael Jordan,

699
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: where we're like, all right, he hit fifty, Like hitting

700
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: fifty is still a big deal to me. But and

701
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: Judge had the average. But I do find this interesting

702
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: with the analytics and the analyst they go, hey, don't

703
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: forget about Judge's batting average. I go, well, wait a minute,

704
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: the analytics told me to not think about batting average.

705
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: Now we think about batting average. You can't have it

706
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: both ways here.

707
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 13: I have the same argument with Ryan Candy. All the

708
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 13: time he throws a different oh that's a justin ballpark rate.

709
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 13: I'm like, every time you throw a different one at me.

710
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 13: It's just not the way it's supposed to be. So

711
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 13: I'm on your side with that.

712
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: How would you sum up the Mets season?

713
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 13: Man, biggest disappointment in the sport, you know, to be

714
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 13: first place in June one and to fall apart. Obviously

715
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 13: they can point to the pitching injuries, but I look

716
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 13: at the fact they didn't address it. You know, they

717
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 13: addressed the bullpen, but they didn't get the pitching taken

718
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 13: care of. And you just can't have that payroll, go

719
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 13: out get a player for one hundred, seven hundred and

720
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 13: sixty five million and not make the playoffs. There's twelve

721
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 13: teams in the in the big leagues. In the playoffs,

722
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 13: there's only thirty teams in the league. It just can't happen.

723
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 2: Talking to Harold Reynolds, you can see him MLB tonight

724
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 2: the National pregame show they're on at noon, and throughout

725
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 2: the postseason and the World Series.

726
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 10: We address and normally I'd have a hoodie on.

727
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 2: Like you, Dan, I know, I know you'd be casual.

728
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: If not the Dodgers in the National League, then who.

729
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 13: Then the Phillies. I think the Phillies are there. If

730
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 13: the Phillies had Wheeler healthy. I think I may lean

731
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 13: even greater to them. Although the Dodgers I think are

732
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 13: a step above everybody else. The Padres will be very interesting.

733
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 13: They'll make it competitive. How the brackets are set up.

734
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 13: I don't know if you dove into that much, but

735
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 13: that really opens the window for that other side, for

736
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 13: those guys to sneak in. Because now the Dodgers win

737
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 13: this round, they play the Phillies, and those are the

738
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 13: best two teams in the National League.

739
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: Who's your pick in the American League?

740
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 10: Uh, the American League. I got Seattle, and that's not

741
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 10: a Homer move, you know.

742
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 13: It's just the fact that they got the best pitching,

743
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 13: they're playing great ball right now, and I think it's

744
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 13: gonna line up pretty good for the Mariners to win it.

745
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 10: I think they're the.

746
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 13: Best team in the American League. If not them, then

747
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 13: I would say the Yankees, and most other people would

748
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 13: pick the Blue Jay. So you got some pretty good

749
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 13: runners and opportunities to make some runs, but I think

750
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 13: the Mariners are the team to be.

751
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: Do you think the Angels ever entertain trading Mike Trump?

752
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 10: I don't know. At this point in time.

753
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 13: That window might have passed I thought they should have

754
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 13: made that move maybe three or four years ago.

755
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 7: Now.

756
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 13: I don't know if Mike's ready to move on or

757
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 13: if already's ready to move him, but I would still

758
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 13: have to look at it if I was the Angels.

759
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: Is he still a great player?

760
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 10: Oh?

761
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, he's still a great player. I think we're seeing

762
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,479
Speaker 13: him start to get healthy again. I mean, he's still

763
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 13: had twenty plus home runs. He played you know, half

764
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 13: the season really, so I think he's getting back to

765
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 13: where he's healthy and playing. He's still in the right lineup,

766
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 13: a very potent player.

767
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: He's played in three postseason games. That's a shame.

768
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 10: Shame, shame.

769
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 13: It's just hard to imagine, especially when I just talked

770
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 13: about with the format now for twelve of the thirty

771
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 13: teams are now going to be in the playoffs and

772
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 13: Mike Trott's only been there three times and that was

773
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 13: under the old format.

774
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the automated balls and strikes. We had the commissioner

775
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: on and he said, all right, we're going to roll

776
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: this out just a little bit and we know how

777
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: this goes. How long until we have automated balls and

778
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: strikes full time? Oh?

779
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 13: I think that's going to happen right away. They tested

780
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 13: in spring training last year. The players didn't have a

781
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 13: whole lot of pushback. I think, really it'll go full.

782
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 13: That's going to be part of the basic agreement coming up.

783
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 13: You know, when that agreement expires in another year, that's

784
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 13: going to be on the table in conversation. But I

785
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 13: think the players of it liked it. The one thing

786
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 13: we're seeing in baseball. You saw the all new the

787
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 13: new rule changes, with the stolen bases and the pitch

788
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 13: timer and everything else. We have a generation of players

789
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 13: now that have grown up with all those things. Yeah,

790
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 13: played in the minor leagues with a pitch timer and

791
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 13: with the pickoff rules. They played in the minor leagues

792
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 13: with the new ball strikes system. That's what they've grown

793
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 13: up on. So it's not as foreign to the player

794
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 13: as it is maybe to the viewer.

795
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: Why is it when we talk best swings in the

796
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: game or of all time, they're always left handed hitters.

797
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 10: I don't know why.

798
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 13: I have a guess, because you just kind of drop

799
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 13: the bat and it just it's almost like.

800
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 10: A pretty golf swing.

801
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 13: But one thing that's happening now in this generation, you

802
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 13: don't hear people say, what a pretty swing.

803
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 10: You don't hear him.

804
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 13: Say Aaron Judge has a pretty swing. Cayle Rawley has

805
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 13: a pretty swing. You don't hear that anymore. Because we're

806
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 13: so into ah gotta grunt everything out instead of guys

807
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 13: with just easy, fluid swings. We don't see that a

808
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 13: whole lot anymore.

809
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: Ken Griffy Junior the greatest swing in baseball history.

810
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 10: If you don't say so, he'll come get He's the

811
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 10: greatest swing.

812
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: Who would be comparable to his swing in today's game?

813
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: It could be all time. Is there another swing that

814
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: comes close to that?

815
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 13: It doesn't come to your mind that easy, that quickly.

816
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 7: I don't.

817
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 10: I can't think of anybody else.

818
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 2: Like Paul Merrow had a really good swing.

819
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 13: Meroo had a nice swing. Uh, there was a number

820
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 13: of guys. Chipper Jones was pretty good from the left side.

821
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 13: You started thinking about guy's swings, But nobody was as

822
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 13: pretty as Griffy. And I think it was because he

823
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 13: had the hat backwards, he had an airring and he

824
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 13: just kind of stood there and watched it too.

825
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 10: That helps to be able.

826
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 8: To do that.

827
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: But right handed hitters like nobody says, pooholes, what a

828
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: beautiful swing. Or Mark McGuire or Paul Molletor. It's like, no, what.

829
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 10: We started doing now is we've kind of spin them around.

830
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: I know, see if.

831
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 10: He was left hand, it didn't be a pretty swing.

832
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: Darryl Strawberry had a pretty swing.

833
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 10: Yes he did, Yes, straw did.

834
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 13: But there was a lot of guys back in the day,

835
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 13: you know that that had that left handed stroke that

836
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 13: just seemed to work.

837
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 8: Yeah.

838
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 2: I remember Paul Molletor had one of the quickest swings,

839
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: like through this, through this, like it was so compact,

840
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: so quick. It wasn't a beautiful swing. I just remember

841
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: watching him. It was like, you know, Bond, nobody's quicker

842
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 2: through the zone than Bonds.

843
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 10: No, nobody was quicker than Barry.

844
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 13: And even Barry, they don't say, what a pretty swing, No,

845
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 13: no stride, just to get that bat through the zone

846
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 13: so quick. I love fernantal Tattoosa's finished.

847
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: You Okay, he puts up, he puts.

848
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 13: A little flair on it even so hail Tani starting

849
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 13: to put some flair on it now.

850
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 10: You know he's getting Americanized a little bit.

851
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 13: He's standing there, he's showing some balls. He's standing there

852
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 13: showing people up. He's something though. Man, have you seen

853
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 13: him in person?

854
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a big guy. Oh my goodness, he's a

855
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: big It's like when I saw Yao Ming for the

856
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: first time, mm hmm, and he was he was some like.

857
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 2: You know, I thought Shaq was big or Mark Eaton,

858
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: and then you see him, I go, oh my god.

859
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: Like when I saw Cam Cam Newton is another guy.

860
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: I saw Cam in personally. Go kind Lee, what you're

861
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: playing quarterback?

862
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 7: Yeah.

863
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 13: I was on the beach in Miami one day and

864
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 13: we're walking and all of a sudden, the shadow came.

865
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 10: Over and it was Shack and I was like, holy

866
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 10: you just keep going.

867
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 13: I never saw y'all ming, but Shack was enormous, and

868
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 13: then he had all the girth to go with it.

869
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 10: He was enormous. You know, the diesel, the diesel, come

870
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 10: with the baby diesel.

871
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 7: You know.

872
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: I do my day, Dan Patrick, and shut the hell up.

873
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 2: Uh Okay, if you're the Pirates, do you do anything

874
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: with Schemes? If you're Schemes, do you do anything with

875
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: the Pirates?

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00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 13: Well, schemes doesn't have a whole lot of leverage because

877
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Speaker 13: that's just kind of the contract.

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Speaker 10: If I were the pirates.

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Speaker 13: They're gonna hate me for saying this, but we said

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Speaker 13: it all summer, so I may as well say it again.

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Speaker 13: I would have pulled a Hearssel Walker trade and I

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Speaker 13: would have dealt him, and I would have got back

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Speaker 13: a whole new franchise of players and turned the whole

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Speaker 13: losing thing around and started winning.

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Speaker 10: I just think his.

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Speaker 13: Value is so high, and if you're not gonna put

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Speaker 13: players around him and invest to put that team around him,

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Speaker 13: then you gotta trade him or else he's gonna be

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Speaker 13: a free agent. You're gonna go through the same thing

890
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Speaker 13: and went through with Garrett Cole. You're gonna go through

891
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 13: the same thing you've been. It's been repeating itself. At

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Speaker 13: some point you got to flip the franchise and be

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Speaker 13: able to turn it around.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you.

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Speaker 10: Have fun today, all right, DP appreciate your brother.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Harold Reynolds.