WEBVTT - #716 Packers Unscripted: Initial Observations 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:10.799 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:14.320 Packers dot Com. I am like Spafford, joined as always 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:16.880 by my partner in crime West and Hodkowitz. We're coming 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.480 to you here from different locations at lambeau Field, once 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.560 again still on zoom. But just to explain to everybody, 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:25.880 wes I'm gonna go off script here, we say this 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:27.160 is unscripted. 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:28.080 Anyway, right, Yeah, I was gonna say. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.520 People are wondering, like, what is the deal? Like the 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.880 football team has this brand new facility, you know, and 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:37.200 you guys are still doing the show on zoom. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:38.120 So what's up? 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:38.760 Here's here? 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:39.479 Is what's up? 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.440 You know those new video boards that are being installed 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:46.479 for the stadium, these huge, like massive things, Well that 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.080 the installed in installation of those, if I can get 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:56.880 the words out of my right, requires a revamping of 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:01.440 the control room that runs those video boards. And that 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.480 control room is the same one that runs the remote 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.480 cameras that shoot Packers Unscripted when we are in our 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:13.800 usual studio setting. So for these several months now and 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.360 unfortunately now still continuing into the beginning of training camp, 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.440 the control room is not available. Therefore, our usual studio 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:25.399 setup for unscripted is not available, but I promise you, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.160 because there are football games to be played at Lanmbeufield, 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:30.319 which means everything needs to be in working order with 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.960 the scoreboards in the control room. We will be back 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:37.960 to our regular well regularly scheduled setting and programming at 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:39.880 some point here. So I just wanted to get that 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:41.840 out of the way for all the fans, so you 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.360 understand why we're doing this the way we are. 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.720 See, and everybody's gonna think I'm a liar now because 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.560 when people have been asking that, I've been actually walking 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.560 around going, hey, guys, the reason we're separated is a 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.480 spof was made editor of packers dot Com and then 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.000 he didn't want to be in the same room as 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.400 me anymore. He didn't want to be in the same studio. 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.000 The studio only big enough for one of us. So 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.280 I got shuffled up to the fifth floor here, right 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:05.280 next to all the suites. 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.760 So yeah, yeah, and they bought and they bought that 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:12.079 line too. They actually believed you he's a real jerk. Yeah. 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.160 I had to come to my own defense there. So anyway, 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:19.000 all of that aside, I apologize for the for the interlude, 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.040 but the first day of training camp is in the books. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.920 Shortly after we get done recording this episode, Wes and 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.120 I will be headed back to Nishki Field for practice 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.200 number two, but wanted to get your thoughts Wes on 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.320 the opening practice on Wednesday. Now the players are still 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:37.239 not in pads. There's a ramp up period here. These 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.080 practices look very much like OTA's and Mini Camp in 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.800 the spring in the early going here. But if you 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.160 want to know, okay, so who won the first practice, 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:50.720 the defense won the first practice, And honestly, that is 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:54.240 pretty typical of almost any training camp at this stage. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.720 The defense is usually ahead of the offense, and I 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.880 think that showed on the field on Wednesday. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.680 They did, I mean at all three key positions, and 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.480 even for if you want to throw DeVante Campbell in 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.720 there too, I'm sorry, Devandre Campbell. 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:10.000 I have too many guys on the top of my 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.160 head there. Easy for you to say, easy for me 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:12.519 to say. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.480 But DeVante White actually had like the first pressure practice. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.400 But you look at Preston Smith coming off the edge. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.760 You look at Kenny Clark in the middle, and then 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.360 jyr Alexander on the perimeter. 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:24.440 I thought all three of those guys. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.040 At some of their better practices I think I've ever 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.440 seen in the Green Bay Packers uniforms. I mean, they 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.120 all were disruptive in their own way. I would probably, 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.560 as I said in our Three Things video, put JayR 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.280 as the MVP of day one. I mean, you just 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.800 could not throw on the kid. And as I joked 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:39.560 about during Three Things, I mean, if there was any 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.240 question about Okay, well Giry Alexander isn't here for OTAs, 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.480 I mean that kid was totally up on everything that 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.600 he was doing. I mean he looked sharp in mid 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.400 season form. But Mike, as I talked about in our 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.800 first episode, the thing I thought was so critical for 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.520 Green Bay's offense was finally going up against Jayrra. It 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:56.760 was going up against Rasul Douglas, those two veterans that 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:01.360 weren't there during OTAs trying to see Okay Romeo Dobbs, 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.880 Jordan Love, Christian Watson, can you get one over on 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.160 these guys? And you know, Larry, you can go back 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:08.800 and watch Three Things. He did a really good job 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.680 of documenting how close you know Dobbs and Love were 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.560 on a couple of their connections, but the one that 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.920 stood out to me the most was the slant that 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:19.680 they ran from Love trying to hit Watson. Watson wasn't 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.520 able to bring it in on the first catch, and 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:24.640 con Ball's kind of hanging up there a little bit. 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.760 And we know so much about Jyry, Alexander, Mike. If 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.800 you don't get that thing caught and pulled in immediately, 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.880 Gyr's breaking it up. Oh, that's just that's his game 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.520 and he just doesn't give you that much wiggle room. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:38.760 That's the difference, and that's going to be the key 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.000 for these young guys moving forward, is understanding the level 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.200 at which they're going to have to compete to be 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:46.120 the number one, the number two, the number three receiver 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.000 and be these primary targets for this offense. 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.440 Yeah, I thought we saw some nice pass breakups from Alexander, 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:55.480 as you said. Also Keishawn Nixon and Corey Ballentine had 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.120 a pass breakup against a tight end against Luke Musgrave, 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.520 the rookie tight end down the sideline. But the other 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:04.240 thing I walked away from that first practice thinking about 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.680 was because when they went to eleven on eleven, the 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.200 offense was going into the wind. It was actually a 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.400 fairly you know stiff breeze for the summer, and that 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.240 wind was having an impact on Jordan Love's throws. And 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.400 I walked away from that practice saying, if that practice 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.159 had been in the Hudson Center, we'd probably be talking 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.680 about how incredible a practice Jordan Love had. Now you 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.839 have to play outside, you have to play in the elements. 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.960 And afterwards, Jordan Love was not making any excuses. He's like, yeah, 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:32.920 you know, the wind got me on a couple of throws. 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.160 They hung up there a little bit. The defenders were 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.760 able to knock them away instead of you know, connecting 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.640 and making those completions. But but that was one one 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.480 thing that occurred to me is that in a controlled environment, 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.400 you know, Jordan Love was was right on target. And 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.080 you know another thing he's going to learn as he 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.559 goes along that every day you're out there on the field, 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.520 something can be different, and it's about adjustments. And when 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.200 you only have a couple dozen plays to run in 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.719 a practice, sometimes it can be tough to make that 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.239 adjustment right away. 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.159 Mike, I'm gonna say one more thing on that too, 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.479 the Balanine breakup. I got a big kick out. Aaron 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.359 Jones was phenomenal to his locker. He talked for like 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.240 a half an hour on Wednesday. He had a great 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.839 line though, talking about the Musgrave play and how big 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.040 of a moment that was for Luke Musgrave because, as 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.760 he said originally when I watched it first time, like, oh, 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.279 was the ball just slightly underthrown that Balentine was able 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.599 to make the play on it? And Darren Jones is like, no, 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.080 I mean that is late hands to a te Luke 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.360 got his hands out there, Ballantine saw it. And when 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.479 you put that blood in the water, defensive backs are 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:33.520 always going to jump on it. 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:35.200 That's what training camp is for. 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.279 That's what these practices are for, having those type of 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.039 moments understanding, Okay, if I do X, this is what 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:42.680 Why's response is going to be. 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:44.320 And certainly, I think when you. 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.120 Talk about a young guy with as much potential as 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.839 Musgrave has, and certainly from an x's and o's perspective, 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.120 the other's a lot to learn, but physically a lot 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.120 of talent there. 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.040 Those are the day. 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:55.640 One things that you tend to look for and you 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.360 hope that they don't show up again on day two 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:57.760 and three. 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.279 Yeah, well, we certainly expect X the offense to keep 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.520 putting things together and to catch up in some respects 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.279 to where the defense is. But as I said, I 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.280 mean you and I both wes, we've been doing this 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.000 for a long time. I don't know if I've ever 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.240 gone to a first practice of training camp and walked 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.680 away saying, well, the offense had their way today. I mean, 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.120 defense always wins early in training camp, and so you 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.840 can almost almost guarantee it. So a couple other thoughts 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.000 quickly with regard to the depth chart. On our previous episode, 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.840 we talked about, you know, the open competitions at a 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.360 couple of spots, just to give you the update there 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.720 where things started. On day one, Rudy Ford was the 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.880 safety that was lined up alongside Darnell Savage with the 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.400 first unit defense and then with regard to right tackle 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.000 on offense, Zach tom the second year pro out of 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.120 Wake Forest, fourth round draft pick last year, he was 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.720 the first one to get the shot at right tackle, 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:56.200 and with David Baktiari being on a somewhat modified practice 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.640 schedule right now where he's not taking all of the 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:03.240 reps with the first unit at left tackle. When Baktiari 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:06.400 stepped away from the first unit here and there throughout practice. 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:10.600 Josh Nimen was the left tackle stepping in there. So 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.040 that's the update on where things are with the depth 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.960 chart in the early going. Anything else depth chart wise 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.800 that you took note of on day one West. 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.560 Well, first things you mentioned Mike Rudy Ford getting that opportunity, 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.680 John Owens and Down Levitt. We with the safeties with 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.800 the number twos to various more obviously all with an 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.200 illness right now. I think it's really interesting that Ennis 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.440 Gains Thump Gains is still he is a safety, but 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.839 it's almost seems like the Packers are running him more 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:35.719 like a slot and he was one of those next 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.840 guys up after Keishawn Nixon in the slot with some 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.760 of those second teams great size. 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.200 We saw a little bit of a breakup. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.840 He again doesn't take a lot for Thump to make 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.440 an impact, and it happened. I think I believe it 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.640 was against Christian Wats. I can't remember exactly which, but 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:50.760 the kid can put on the brakes and he's still 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.880 gonna end up getting home occasionally a few other things 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.200 to keep an eye on. I'm gonna be going into 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.559 this practice. We're shooting this before Thursday's practice. We'll be 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:00.960 keeping an eye on Jonathan Garvin. He actually was working 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.439 a little bit with the inside defensive line players. So 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.320 I'm curious to see what the plan is for him 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.800 there and where they're going to go moving forward, and 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:10.640 if he's still if he's gonna play both or he's 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.320 gonna try to work them. You know, sometimes they do 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.840 that cross training because if you look at him, Mike 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.760 outside linebacker got filled up pretty quick. Now with Lucas 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.800 Vans back, they're hoping to have for Shawn gary Beck, 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.840 you know potentially sometime here during training camp. Then you 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.520 have JJ and Ningbari, you have Justin Hollins. I mean 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.800 the Packers position that went from being you know, a 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.520 little shallow last year that they had to bring in 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.320 a guy like Hollins after Gary's injury. Well, now suddenly 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.560 they have a dearth of options, or not a dearth, 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.760 but in an overabundance of options with Lucas Vanes in 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:38.160 the fold. 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.840 Yeah, and that was another thing I took note of too, 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.480 because we'll watch as training camp onfolds, not only for 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.800 when Rashaun gary Get gets back in the mix, which 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.960 the hope is that maybe by the end of training 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.360 camp he gets the medical green light to go. But 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.520 also that the way things started with Rashawn Gary out, 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:01.040 the starting outside linebackers were Preston Smith and Justin Hollins. 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.520 Lucas van Ness, the first round pick out of Iowa 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.360 not working with the first team just yet. That's another 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.280 thing to watch because I think at some point he's 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.680 going to work his way up and at least be 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:16.199 rotating in with the first team, perhaps sooner than later. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.400 Another thing we also during the spring, we had talked 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.600 about this, we didn't really get to see a whole lot. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:25.040 Maybe one day. I think of Andras Carlson, the rookie 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.839 six round pick, you know, kicking in a live field 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.760 goal period. Well, they went right at it on day 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.079 one of training camp, and I thought Carlson got off 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.960 to a solid start. He made five out of six 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.760 field goals. All the kicks were between forty and forty 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.079 five yards. The only miss was from forty four and 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:43.920 it didn't look like he missed it by much, just 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.040 a little a little wide to the left. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.000 Yeah, to mention, if the referees weren't out yesterday, I 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.240 think all the media probably would have given him put 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:52.040 it for six for six. 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:53.000 It was that close. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.120 Yeah, we were, I mean, and we were kind of 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:56.800 looking at each other like, oh, did they say that 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.400 one was no good? And there was one The one 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.640 official underneath the one upright said, you know, was waving 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:02.760 that it was no good, but. 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.280 The other almost staring at him saying, bail me out here, buddy. 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.280 The other thing I want to see too moving forward, 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.280 and I'm sure we'll see it at some point in camp. 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.240 We don't have the schedule in front of us in 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.280 terms of what days they're doing what, but knowing the 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:18.640 leg strength that Carlson has and he was kicking with 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.280 the wind behind him yesterday, so you know, the ball 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.120 was really taking off. But I want to see him 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.720 on kickoffs. I want to I want to see, you know, 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:28.240 I want to see him with the you know, the 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.840 full run up and wind up and and where that 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:34.680 ball ends up on a kickoff because because I think 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.760 that's something that the Packers are going to be counting 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:40.640 on from their new young kicker is to is to 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.440 boom that ball the back of the end zone as 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:43.480 often as possible. 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.880 Yeah, in an effortless stroke. 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.120 I mean, that was sort of my biggest takeaway and 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:49.640 the little bit we got to see him in mini 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.880 camp and then certainly watching him again on Wednesday. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.160 The guy doesn't have to. 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.920 Over exert his body in order to develop that kinetic 0:11:58.080 --> 0:11:59.199 energy in that football. 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:00.800 And as we saw last year. 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.480 I mean, I love Mason, will always love Mason, and 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.199 I hope that he still gets a chance to keep playing. 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.160 But you and I had those questions every once in 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.440 a while, Hey, is this You know, if Mason keeps kicking, 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.000 are they gonna eventually have to start going to Adam 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:12.839 deni Terry route where you have a punter that can 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.480 handle kickoffs. And we saw last year Packers wanted to 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:17.880 stick with the kicker. They didn't want to go a 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.719 pad O'Donnell on that. So you know it's gonna be 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:22.440 a big part of the job descript for rounds. Carlson 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.840 probably something none of us have really talked about. But 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.200 the fact of the matter is is that when they 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.640 drafted him, it was about the leg strength and then 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.040 hoping that the mechanical issues that he worked through in 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.319 the after that ACL injury could be smooth out with 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:36.480 Rich Pasaci and his team. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.280 Yeah, no question about it. 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The night before his first training 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.880 camp practice, he actually got a text message communicating via 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.520 text with his predecessor, Aaron Rodgers Rogers giving him some 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.840 words of encouragement, wishing him good luck and saying, you know, hey, 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.800 just be yourself out there. And that's what we've heard 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.560 from Jordan Love all the way along. It's like, you know, hey, 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.680 he knows he can't try to be Aaron Rodgers, he 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.600 can't try to be anybody but himself. And as Matt 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.920 Lafer likes to say, be the best version of that self, 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.800 and that's what Jordan Love is out to do. And 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.080 we also found out some more details about these off 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:54.240 season workouts that people saw snippets of on social media 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.480 over the last several weeks and whatnot, with Jordan Love 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.959 and Aaron Jones and some of the other guys getting 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.760 together out in California and Wes. You talked to some 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.199 of the players in the locker room about those. There 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.440 is a story on packers dot Com detailing all that. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:10.720 So what'd you find out? 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.080 Yeah, it was a neat experience, Mike, because you know, 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.680 we saw last winter Aaron Jones went out there for 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.800 one day. Romeo Dobbs lives in La Is right there, 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:20.720 has trained with Jordan before, so he. 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:21.680 Ran some routes for him. 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.320 But one of the lasting things they talked about when 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.720 the off season program broke was, Hey, should we get 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.120 some guys together and just see who shows up and 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.240 it'll be whatever we want it to be. But even 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.240 more so than just running routes and you know, being 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.720 able to work out together, it's also about some of 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.640 the team bonding stuff, getting to know these guys a 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.560 little bit better, and I thought, you know, credit first 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.600 and foremost to love, you know, I thought he learned 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.600 that leadership sort of mantra from Rogers, has understood that 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.560 that's his role. Now he's going to be the guy 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.320 that guys are going to turn to and wants to 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.440 step up and be a guy that anyone feels comfortable 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.280 talking with. And one way to do that is bringing 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.800 guys together. So Danny Etling backup quarterback, went out to 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.920 Orange County. Also, that was Dontavian Wicks and Jaden Reid, 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.560 the two rookie draft picks. Christian Watson was able to 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:08.800 make it out there as well. Jeff Cotton also took 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.640 part in that, although Jeff was let go this week, 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.840 so it was eight guys all together that were able 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.760 to spend a couple of days ago. They got rooms 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.440 at the same hotel, they ate dinners together for a couple. 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:21.560 Of days, even when bowling. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.560 Although it was funny, Aaron Jones laughed about how they 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.640 originally were supposed to be setting up some kind of 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.680 reservation where they're going to go to a local speedway 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:33.480 and drive go karts, and somehow the reservations on that 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.320 got messed up. And Jordan was like, well, let's go bowling. 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.240 It was like straight out of the Big Lebowski, Let's 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.640 go bowling. So and as it turns out, Jordan's a 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.960 pretty good bowler. Has everyone found out pretty quickly. So, 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.960 but Mike coming back now the off season program, you know, 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.840 whether it's Jordan and these younger receivers or even a 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:52.960 guy like Aaron Jones in his seventh season getting to 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.560 know Dontavian Wicks and Jayden Reid a little bit more, 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:57.680 that's going to be such a big part of this 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.880 thing because in a lot of ways, as Matt le 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.800 Floor's message has been to this team, they are all 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.160 in this together. I mean, it's not gonna be about 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.400 Aaron Jones. It's not gonna be about Jordan Love. It's 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:12.000 gonna be about who are your primary playmakers and who 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.040 steps up alongside those men, And if the Packers are 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:16.760 gonna get to where they want to be this year 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.240 and show those signs of growth and improvement, it's gonna 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.720 happen through all those guys that went down to southern 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:23.640 California with Love, and I just thought that showed a 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.160 lot of maturity on Love's part two. Okay, I'm not 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.360 just gonna go work out run routes for random people. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.480 I want to get my receivers there. I want to 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.960 get my timing down and also have a little bit 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:34.200 of fun in the spare time as well. 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.720 Yeah, and the competitiveness apparently was in full force as well, 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:42.040 because Christian Watson apparently is not willing to concede that 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.360 Jordan Love is the best bowler in the group, even 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.560 though Love rolled a one ninety eight, which is pretty 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:51.680 good score. But Watson was complaining that the lanes were 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.120 too oily or something because he throws like a big 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:58.200 hook and his ball wasn't you know, wasn't wasn't turning 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.000 and cranking into the pocket the way. 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:00.600 He's used to. 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.640 So so yeah, these guys are getting to know each other, 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.600 they're getting to be friends. But trust me, anytime, whether 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.920 it's the football field or the bowling alley, these guys 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.679 are competitive and and they're going at it with one another. 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:12.120 For sure. 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.040 It's like who's the better tennis player on clay or grass, 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:18.040 you know, like trying to find out who exactly you know, 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.160 holds the dominance there. But no, I think it's been good. 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:22.720 I mean, we didn't We talked about it a little 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.560 bit during the summer too, but you know, Jordan getting 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.680 together with Christian and Jonathan Owen, Simone Biles up in 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:29.520 Door County for a couple of days with Aaron with 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.160 AJ Dillon. Those are the type of things you don't 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:33.439 want to force it. You don't want to be like, oh, 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:34.680 I got to go out and do all this stuff. 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.240 But when you can build those type of relationships and 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.520 those connections, that matters. And as Aaron Jones said, I 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.480 didn't work this into the story, but a lot of 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:43.480 those young guys that he hadn't really talked much with 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.320