1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am like Spafford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: by my partner in crime West and Hodkowitz. We're coming 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: to you here from different locations at lambeau Field, once 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: again still on zoom. But just to explain to everybody, 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: wes I'm gonna go off script here, we say this 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: is unscripted. 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: Anyway, right, Yeah, I was gonna say. 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: People are wondering, like, what is the deal? Like the 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: football team has this brand new facility, you know, and 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: you guys are still doing the show on zoom. 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: So what's up? 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Here's here? 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: Is what's up? 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: You know those new video boards that are being installed 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: for the stadium, these huge, like massive things, Well that 17 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: the installed in installation of those, if I can get 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: the words out of my right, requires a revamping of 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: the control room that runs those video boards. And that 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: control room is the same one that runs the remote 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: cameras that shoot Packers Unscripted when we are in our 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: usual studio setting. So for these several months now and 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: unfortunately now still continuing into the beginning of training camp, 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: the control room is not available. Therefore, our usual studio 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: setup for unscripted is not available, but I promise you, 26 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: because there are football games to be played at Lanmbeufield, 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: which means everything needs to be in working order with 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: the scoreboards in the control room. We will be back 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: to our regular well regularly scheduled setting and programming at 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: some point here. So I just wanted to get that 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: out of the way for all the fans, so you 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: understand why we're doing this the way we are. 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: See, and everybody's gonna think I'm a liar now because 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: when people have been asking that, I've been actually walking 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: around going, hey, guys, the reason we're separated is a 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: spof was made editor of packers dot Com and then 37 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: he didn't want to be in the same room as 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: me anymore. He didn't want to be in the same studio. 39 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: The studio only big enough for one of us. So 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: I got shuffled up to the fifth floor here, right 41 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: next to all the suites. 42 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and they bought and they bought that 43 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: line too. They actually believed you he's a real jerk. Yeah. 44 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: I had to come to my own defense there. So anyway, 45 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: all of that aside, I apologize for the for the interlude, 46 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: but the first day of training camp is in the books. 47 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: Shortly after we get done recording this episode, Wes and 48 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: I will be headed back to Nishki Field for practice 49 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: number two, but wanted to get your thoughts Wes on 50 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: the opening practice on Wednesday. Now the players are still 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: not in pads. There's a ramp up period here. These 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: practices look very much like OTA's and Mini Camp in 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: the spring in the early going here. But if you 54 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: want to know, okay, so who won the first practice, 55 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: the defense won the first practice, And honestly, that is 56 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: pretty typical of almost any training camp at this stage. 57 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: The defense is usually ahead of the offense, and I 58 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: think that showed on the field on Wednesday. 59 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: They did, I mean at all three key positions, and 60 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: even for if you want to throw DeVante Campbell in 61 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: there too, I'm sorry, Devandre Campbell. 62 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: I have too many guys on the top of my 63 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: head there. Easy for you to say, easy for me 64 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 2: to say. 65 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: But DeVante White actually had like the first pressure practice. 66 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: But you look at Preston Smith coming off the edge. 67 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: You look at Kenny Clark in the middle, and then 68 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: jyr Alexander on the perimeter. 69 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: I thought all three of those guys. 70 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: At some of their better practices I think I've ever 71 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: seen in the Green Bay Packers uniforms. I mean, they 72 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: all were disruptive in their own way. I would probably, 73 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: as I said in our Three Things video, put JayR 74 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: as the MVP of day one. I mean, you just 75 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: could not throw on the kid. And as I joked 76 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: about during Three Things, I mean, if there was any 77 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: question about Okay, well Giry Alexander isn't here for OTAs, 78 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: I mean that kid was totally up on everything that 79 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: he was doing. I mean he looked sharp in mid 80 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: season form. But Mike, as I talked about in our 81 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: first episode, the thing I thought was so critical for 82 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: Green Bay's offense was finally going up against Jayrra. It 83 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: was going up against Rasul Douglas, those two veterans that 84 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: weren't there during OTAs trying to see Okay Romeo Dobbs, 85 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: Jordan Love, Christian Watson, can you get one over on 86 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: these guys? And you know, Larry, you can go back 87 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: and watch Three Things. He did a really good job 88 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: of documenting how close you know Dobbs and Love were 89 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: on a couple of their connections, but the one that 90 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: stood out to me the most was the slant that 91 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: they ran from Love trying to hit Watson. Watson wasn't 92 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: able to bring it in on the first catch, and 93 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: con Ball's kind of hanging up there a little bit. 94 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: And we know so much about Jyry, Alexander, Mike. If 95 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: you don't get that thing caught and pulled in immediately, 96 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: Gyr's breaking it up. Oh, that's just that's his game 97 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: and he just doesn't give you that much wiggle room. 98 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: That's the difference, and that's going to be the key 99 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: for these young guys moving forward, is understanding the level 100 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: at which they're going to have to compete to be 101 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: the number one, the number two, the number three receiver 102 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: and be these primary targets for this offense. 103 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought we saw some nice pass breakups from Alexander, 104 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: as you said. Also Keishawn Nixon and Corey Ballentine had 105 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: a pass breakup against a tight end against Luke Musgrave, 106 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: the rookie tight end down the sideline. But the other 107 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: thing I walked away from that first practice thinking about 108 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: was because when they went to eleven on eleven, the 109 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: offense was going into the wind. It was actually a 110 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: fairly you know stiff breeze for the summer, and that 111 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: wind was having an impact on Jordan Love's throws. And 112 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: I walked away from that practice saying, if that practice 113 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: had been in the Hudson Center, we'd probably be talking 114 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: about how incredible a practice Jordan Love had. Now you 115 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: have to play outside, you have to play in the elements. 116 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: And afterwards, Jordan Love was not making any excuses. He's like, yeah, 117 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, the wind got me on a couple of throws. 118 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: They hung up there a little bit. The defenders were 119 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: able to knock them away instead of you know, connecting 120 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: and making those completions. But but that was one one 121 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: thing that occurred to me is that in a controlled environment, 122 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, Jordan Love was was right on target. And 123 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: you know another thing he's going to learn as he 124 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,559 Speaker 1: goes along that every day you're out there on the field, 125 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: something can be different, and it's about adjustments. And when 126 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: you only have a couple dozen plays to run in 127 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: a practice, sometimes it can be tough to make that 128 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 1: adjustment right away. 129 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 3: Mike, I'm gonna say one more thing on that too, 130 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 3: the Balanine breakup. I got a big kick out. Aaron 131 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 3: Jones was phenomenal to his locker. He talked for like 132 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 3: a half an hour on Wednesday. He had a great 133 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: line though, talking about the Musgrave play and how big 134 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: of a moment that was for Luke Musgrave because, as 135 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: he said originally when I watched it first time, like, oh, 136 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: was the ball just slightly underthrown that Balentine was able 137 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 3: to make the play on it? And Darren Jones is like, no, 138 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: I mean that is late hands to a te Luke 139 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: got his hands out there, Ballantine saw it. And when 140 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: you put that blood in the water, defensive backs are 141 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: always going to jump on it. 142 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: That's what training camp is for. 143 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 3: That's what these practices are for, having those type of 144 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 3: moments understanding, Okay, if I do X, this is what 145 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: Why's response is going to be. 146 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: And certainly, I think when you. 147 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: Talk about a young guy with as much potential as 148 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: Musgrave has, and certainly from an x's and o's perspective, 149 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: the other's a lot to learn, but physically a lot 150 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: of talent there. 151 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: Those are the day. 152 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: One things that you tend to look for and you 153 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 3: hope that they don't show up again on day two 154 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: and three. 155 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we certainly expect X the offense to keep 156 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: putting things together and to catch up in some respects 157 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: to where the defense is. But as I said, I 158 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: mean you and I both wes, we've been doing this 159 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: for a long time. I don't know if I've ever 160 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: gone to a first practice of training camp and walked 161 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: away saying, well, the offense had their way today. I mean, 162 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: defense always wins early in training camp, and so you 163 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: can almost almost guarantee it. So a couple other thoughts 164 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: quickly with regard to the depth chart. On our previous episode, 165 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: we talked about, you know, the open competitions at a 166 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: couple of spots, just to give you the update there 167 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: where things started. On day one, Rudy Ford was the 168 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: safety that was lined up alongside Darnell Savage with the 169 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: first unit defense and then with regard to right tackle 170 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: on offense, Zach tom the second year pro out of 171 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: Wake Forest, fourth round draft pick last year, he was 172 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: the first one to get the shot at right tackle, 173 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: and with David Baktiari being on a somewhat modified practice 174 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: schedule right now where he's not taking all of the 175 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: reps with the first unit at left tackle. When Baktiari 176 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: stepped away from the first unit here and there throughout practice. 177 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: Josh Nimen was the left tackle stepping in there. So 178 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: that's the update on where things are with the depth 179 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: chart in the early going. Anything else depth chart wise 180 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: that you took note of on day one West. 181 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: Well, first things you mentioned Mike Rudy Ford getting that opportunity, 182 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: John Owens and Down Levitt. We with the safeties with 183 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: the number twos to various more obviously all with an 184 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: illness right now. I think it's really interesting that Ennis 185 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: Gains Thump Gains is still he is a safety, but 186 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 3: it's almost seems like the Packers are running him more 187 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 3: like a slot and he was one of those next 188 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: guys up after Keishawn Nixon in the slot with some 189 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: of those second teams great size. 190 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: We saw a little bit of a breakup. 191 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: He again doesn't take a lot for Thump to make 192 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: an impact, and it happened. I think I believe it 193 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: was against Christian Wats. I can't remember exactly which, but 194 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: the kid can put on the brakes and he's still 195 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: gonna end up getting home occasionally a few other things 196 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: to keep an eye on. I'm gonna be going into 197 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 3: this practice. We're shooting this before Thursday's practice. We'll be 198 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: keeping an eye on Jonathan Garvin. He actually was working 199 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 3: a little bit with the inside defensive line players. So 200 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: I'm curious to see what the plan is for him 201 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 3: there and where they're going to go moving forward, and 202 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: if he's still if he's gonna play both or he's 203 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: gonna try to work them. You know, sometimes they do 204 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: that cross training because if you look at him, Mike 205 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: outside linebacker got filled up pretty quick. Now with Lucas 206 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: Vans back, they're hoping to have for Shawn gary Beck, 207 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: you know potentially sometime here during training camp. Then you 208 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: have JJ and Ningbari, you have Justin Hollins. I mean 209 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: the Packers position that went from being you know, a 210 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: little shallow last year that they had to bring in 211 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: a guy like Hollins after Gary's injury. Well, now suddenly 212 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: they have a dearth of options, or not a dearth, 213 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: but in an overabundance of options with Lucas Vanes in 214 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: the fold. 215 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was another thing I took note of too, 216 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: because we'll watch as training camp onfolds, not only for 217 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: when Rashaun gary Get gets back in the mix, which 218 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: the hope is that maybe by the end of training 219 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: camp he gets the medical green light to go. But 220 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: also that the way things started with Rashawn Gary out, 221 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: the starting outside linebackers were Preston Smith and Justin Hollins. 222 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: Lucas van Ness, the first round pick out of Iowa 223 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: not working with the first team just yet. That's another 224 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: thing to watch because I think at some point he's 225 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: going to work his way up and at least be 226 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: rotating in with the first team, perhaps sooner than later. 227 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: Another thing we also during the spring, we had talked 228 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: about this, we didn't really get to see a whole lot. 229 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: Maybe one day. I think of Andras Carlson, the rookie 230 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: six round pick, you know, kicking in a live field 231 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: goal period. Well, they went right at it on day 232 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: one of training camp, and I thought Carlson got off 233 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: to a solid start. He made five out of six 234 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: field goals. All the kicks were between forty and forty 235 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: five yards. The only miss was from forty four and 236 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: it didn't look like he missed it by much, just 237 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: a little a little wide to the left. 238 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, to mention, if the referees weren't out yesterday, I 239 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: think all the media probably would have given him put 240 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: it for six for six. 241 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: It was that close. 242 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were, I mean, and we were kind of 243 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: looking at each other like, oh, did they say that 244 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: one was no good? And there was one The one 245 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: official underneath the one upright said, you know, was waving 246 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: that it was no good, but. 247 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: The other almost staring at him saying, bail me out here, buddy. 248 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: The other thing I want to see too moving forward, 249 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: and I'm sure we'll see it at some point in camp. 250 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: We don't have the schedule in front of us in 251 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: terms of what days they're doing what, but knowing the 252 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: leg strength that Carlson has and he was kicking with 253 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: the wind behind him yesterday, so you know, the ball 254 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: was really taking off. But I want to see him 255 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: on kickoffs. I want to I want to see, you know, 256 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: I want to see him with the you know, the 257 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: full run up and wind up and and where that 258 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: ball ends up on a kickoff because because I think 259 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: that's something that the Packers are going to be counting 260 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: on from their new young kicker is to is to 261 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: boom that ball the back of the end zone as 262 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: often as possible. 263 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, in an effortless stroke. 264 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: I mean, that was sort of my biggest takeaway and 265 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: the little bit we got to see him in mini 266 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: camp and then certainly watching him again on Wednesday. 267 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: The guy doesn't have to. 268 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: Over exert his body in order to develop that kinetic 269 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 3: energy in that football. 270 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: And as we saw last year. 271 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I love Mason, will always love Mason, and 272 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 3: I hope that he still gets a chance to keep playing. 273 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: But you and I had those questions every once in 274 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 3: a while, Hey, is this You know, if Mason keeps kicking, 275 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: are they gonna eventually have to start going to Adam 276 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 3: deni Terry route where you have a punter that can 277 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: handle kickoffs. And we saw last year Packers wanted to 278 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: stick with the kicker. They didn't want to go a 279 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 3: pad O'Donnell on that. So you know it's gonna be 280 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: a big part of the job descript for rounds. Carlson 281 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: probably something none of us have really talked about. But 282 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: the fact of the matter is is that when they 283 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: drafted him, it was about the leg strength and then 284 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: hoping that the mechanical issues that he worked through in 285 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 3: the after that ACL injury could be smooth out with 286 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: Rich Pasaci and his team. 287 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it. We'll get to a few 288 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: more observations from day one of camp in a minute, 289 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: but for some sponsor business, Serious XM NFL Radio delivers 290 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: hard hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL news 291 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: that true football fanatics need. Twenty four to seven, three 292 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: sixty five and a cousin subs. We have something for 293 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: everyone like our Wisconsin cheese curds, mac and Cheese, golden 294 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: fries and creamy shape, all paired with your favorite sub 295 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: or sub in a bowl. Cousin Subs fifty years of better. Well, 296 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: we found out some other little tidbits of news. I 297 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: guess you could call him with regard to Jordan Love 298 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: as he makes this transition to QB one here for 299 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. The night before his first training 300 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: camp practice, he actually got a text message communicating via 301 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: text with his predecessor, Aaron Rodgers Rogers giving him some 302 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: words of encouragement, wishing him good luck and saying, you know, hey, 303 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: just be yourself out there. And that's what we've heard 304 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: from Jordan Love all the way along. It's like, you know, hey, 305 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: he knows he can't try to be Aaron Rodgers, he 306 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: can't try to be anybody but himself. And as Matt 307 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: Lafer likes to say, be the best version of that self, 308 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: and that's what Jordan Love is out to do. And 309 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: we also found out some more details about these off 310 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: season workouts that people saw snippets of on social media 311 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: over the last several weeks and whatnot, with Jordan Love 312 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: and Aaron Jones and some of the other guys getting 313 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: together out in California and Wes. You talked to some 314 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: of the players in the locker room about those. There 315 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: is a story on packers dot Com detailing all that. 316 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: So what'd you find out? 317 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a neat experience, Mike, because you know, 318 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 3: we saw last winter Aaron Jones went out there for 319 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: one day. Romeo Dobbs lives in La Is right there, 320 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: has trained with Jordan before, so he. 321 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: Ran some routes for him. 322 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: But one of the lasting things they talked about when 323 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: the off season program broke was, Hey, should we get 324 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: some guys together and just see who shows up and 325 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: it'll be whatever we want it to be. But even 326 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: more so than just running routes and you know, being 327 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: able to work out together, it's also about some of 328 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: the team bonding stuff, getting to know these guys a 329 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: little bit better, and I thought, you know, credit first 330 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: and foremost to love, you know, I thought he learned 331 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: that leadership sort of mantra from Rogers, has understood that 332 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: that's his role. Now he's going to be the guy 333 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: that guys are going to turn to and wants to 334 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: step up and be a guy that anyone feels comfortable 335 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: talking with. And one way to do that is bringing 336 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 3: guys together. So Danny Etling backup quarterback, went out to 337 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: Orange County. Also, that was Dontavian Wicks and Jaden Reid, 338 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: the two rookie draft picks. Christian Watson was able to 339 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: make it out there as well. Jeff Cotton also took 340 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: part in that, although Jeff was let go this week, 341 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: so it was eight guys all together that were able 342 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: to spend a couple of days ago. They got rooms 343 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: at the same hotel, they ate dinners together for a couple. 344 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: Of days, even when bowling. 345 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: Although it was funny, Aaron Jones laughed about how they 346 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: originally were supposed to be setting up some kind of 347 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: reservation where they're going to go to a local speedway 348 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: and drive go karts, and somehow the reservations on that 349 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: got messed up. And Jordan was like, well, let's go bowling. 350 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: It was like straight out of the Big Lebowski, Let's 351 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: go bowling. So and as it turns out, Jordan's a 352 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: pretty good bowler. Has everyone found out pretty quickly. So, 353 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: but Mike coming back now the off season program, you know, 354 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: whether it's Jordan and these younger receivers or even a 355 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: guy like Aaron Jones in his seventh season getting to 356 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: know Dontavian Wicks and Jayden Reid a little bit more, 357 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: that's going to be such a big part of this 358 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: thing because in a lot of ways, as Matt le 359 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: Floor's message has been to this team, they are all 360 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: in this together. I mean, it's not gonna be about 361 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones. It's not gonna be about Jordan Love. It's 362 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: gonna be about who are your primary playmakers and who 363 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: steps up alongside those men, And if the Packers are 364 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: gonna get to where they want to be this year 365 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: and show those signs of growth and improvement, it's gonna 366 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: happen through all those guys that went down to southern 367 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: California with Love, and I just thought that showed a 368 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: lot of maturity on Love's part two. Okay, I'm not 369 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: just gonna go work out run routes for random people. 370 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: I want to get my receivers there. I want to 371 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: get my timing down and also have a little bit 372 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: of fun in the spare time as well. 373 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the competitiveness apparently was in full force as well, 374 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: because Christian Watson apparently is not willing to concede that 375 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: Jordan Love is the best bowler in the group, even 376 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: though Love rolled a one ninety eight, which is pretty 377 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: good score. But Watson was complaining that the lanes were 378 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: too oily or something because he throws like a big 379 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: hook and his ball wasn't you know, wasn't wasn't turning 380 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: and cranking into the pocket the way. 381 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: He's used to. 382 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: So so yeah, these guys are getting to know each other, 383 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: they're getting to be friends. But trust me, anytime, whether 384 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: it's the football field or the bowling alley, these guys 385 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: are competitive and and they're going at it with one another. 386 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: For sure. 387 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: It's like who's the better tennis player on clay or grass, 388 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: you know, like trying to find out who exactly you know, 389 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 3: holds the dominance there. But no, I think it's been good. 390 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: I mean, we didn't We talked about it a little 391 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 3: bit during the summer too, but you know, Jordan getting 392 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: together with Christian and Jonathan Owen, Simone Biles up in 393 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: Door County for a couple of days with Aaron with 394 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 3: AJ Dillon. Those are the type of things you don't 395 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 3: want to force it. You don't want to be like, oh, 396 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: I got to go out and do all this stuff. 397 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 3: But when you can build those type of relationships and 398 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: those connections, that matters. And as Aaron Jones said, I 399 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: didn't work this into the story, but a lot of 400 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: those young guys that he hadn't really talked much with 401 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: before he was texting with them afterwards. He was talking 402 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: with him the lead up into this training camp, and yes, 403 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: it was a learning experience for the offense on day one, 404 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: but certainly the roots are there, the seeds have been planted, 405 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: and now you just kind of want to watch it grow. 406 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: Well. With that, we do have to get rolling with 407 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: the second practice right ahead of us here after we 408 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: turn off these cameras, but on our next show next week, 409 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: we will have a few more practices to discuss and 410 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: a few more observations to get to, so we will 411 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: definitely share those with you, but for now for Wes, 412 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: I am Mike, thank you for tuning in. Everybody. We'll 413 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: call it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted, 414 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: and we will see you next time.