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Speaker 1: caused a lot of stir with Real Life Real Love,

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Speaker 1: I think, being very honest, a lot of group chats

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Speaker 1: already know which pieces? Did you look at each other

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Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, they're going to be talking about

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Speaker 2: Not really real life Real Love. We didn't. I didn't

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Speaker 2: expect to pick up like it was.

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Speaker 3: We would just being vulnerable and honest, like we were

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Speaker 3: talking about everything that we went through as a couple,

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Speaker 3: whether it was our sex life or infidelity or whatever

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Speaker 3: it was raising kids. The first time we met, we

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Speaker 3: was like, oh, because we talk about these things on

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Speaker 3: when things picked up, you know, people made jokes, may

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Speaker 3: we did it to get those people that were like,

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Speaker 3: you know, we're in a relationship and this book helped

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Speaker 2: So that's why we kind of are so vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: Oh and I think I applaud you for that. Shack

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Speaker 1: always says, you know, not to take yourself too seriously,

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Speaker 4: Not in this book, but in real life, real love.

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Speaker 4: There were many many topics that we said, this might

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Speaker 4: and I'm not the only one, And now how did

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Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of things that are a

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Speaker 4: they're like, Oh, you're Giah, you're Envy. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 5: So speaking of the naysayers when you heard all the nonsense,

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Speaker 4: Through sex, through sex intercourse, and.

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Speaker 5: It was never you Blue, all right, switch the subject. Bro.

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Speaker 5: Your book Real Life, Real Famous about raising kids was confident.

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Speaker 3: People like to get validated through social media, and we

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Speaker 3: That's what it causes anxiety, depression, suicide and all that.

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Speaker 3: The other is we respect each other no matter what argument,

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Speaker 2: We respect each other.

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Speaker 3: We always uplift each other and point out the good

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Speaker 3: at all times. If my kids is outside at your house,

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