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And 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:10.720 when I find my. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.560 Ball in a Frida Egg Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.280 Egg Frida Egg, Frida Egg, Brian Egg, Frida Egg, Bride 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:16.760 Egg Lie. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:41.480 I'm about ready to run off of the hump. Today's episode, 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.640 I am joined by No Laying Ups Tron Carter makes 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:48.160 his long awaited return to the Frida Egg podcast. Tron 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.920 and I were in Grand Rapids. This is film recorded 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:55.640 the morning after our our collaborative event with No Laying 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.600 Up at the Mines Golf Club. Tron and I sat 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.440 down to talk about US Open. So we each came 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.760 up with I believe five things. I think we got 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:07.400 five things each and talked really, I mean, at this point, 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.240 with everything going on in the men's sport, with the 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.520 Live Golf Tour, the Saudi Golf League, however you prefer 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.600 to say it, obviously, this is a little bit different 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.840 major championship than most. I think so much of the 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.760 oxygen and so much of the attention in the golf 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.840 world is going to be centered around you know, the 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.000 live and who's next and what's next for the tour, 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.080 and and obviously it's a it's a very political, It's 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.320 kind of like a political chess match out there. So 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.120 we talked about that as well as other, you know, 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:43.720 big storylines at Brookline a lot about the course, and 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.000 then about some of the big names that are there. 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.799 So without further ado, here is Tron Carter from No Langa. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.079 You're going home, going back to Boston. 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.080 I am, yeah, going back to Boston. I went up 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.040 for the media day a couple of weeks ago. There 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:07.560 was no leaves on the trees yet, which was jarring. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.079 It's been you know, mid nineties in Florida for the 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:14.360 last two months. I kind of forgot how late the 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.040 winter and spring creeps into summer up there. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:21.000 But yeah, it'll be way till Rochester and actually, oh god. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.640 I'm hoping for absolute carnage. 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.200 Like you know, if you open for snow in the 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:27.000 practice round to. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:31.480 Be awesome, be fantastic. Any of you spent much time in. 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.440 Boston, just a little, just a little. I need I 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.640 need to explore. I don't think next week is gonna 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.480 be the week to explore. You know, you have this 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:42.240 like idea, it's like, oh, I'm gonna be a week 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.320 in Boston, and then it's like, well, I got to 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.040 the Media Center at seven and then I finished work 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:48.120 at like nine, So. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.800 I think the logistics are going to be very, very, 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.640 very challenging for them. There's only like three ways to 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.160 get on and off property. The parking is out at 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.960 Boston College. Like, I think I'm gonna take the tea, 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:01.520 Let's take the Metro. 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.720 I heard. I heard that like Boston at one point 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.600 knew that they needed to fix all their roads and 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.240 make them, make them make more sense. Like the first 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.280 time I went to Boston, I was trying to get 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:19.080 to Brookline and I was driving in a circle for 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.760 literally twenty five minutes, and it was driving me insane. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:23.840 I couldn't figure it out. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.240 It gets weird back behind Fenway and yea ten more 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.520 and everything like there's a there's a stream back there, and. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.520 Yes, that's exactly the area. And I just like kept 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:37.000 going in this circle. And it's funny. I was telling 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:38.800 somebody about it, and they're like, oh, yeah, you know 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.600 that the city knew back in the day that they 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.640 needed to fix the roads. And they just said, you 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.720 know what, fuck the outsiders. The people that live here 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.120 know how to get around, and we aren't going to 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.480 make it easier for other people. And I think that's 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.279 like the perfect sentiment of Boston. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:59.000 It's our it's our most uh European American city. It's 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.960 it's super European. It's a great place to live, it's 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:06.480 great place to walk, like it's a it's a walking city. Uh. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.640 And then they did try to fix the roads a 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:10.800 little bit when they did the Big dig and they 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:15.680 spent like, you know, twenty five dollars on that, which 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.640 doesn't seem like as much money in to health, but 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.080 at the time it was just remarkable. 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.760 It's uh, it's a it's a really cool city. I'm 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.680 excited to be there even you know, I need to 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.559 make some time to get away. What are you looking 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.360 forward to, uh at this year's US Open. 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.760 Gosh, I think first thing is, first, I'm looking forward 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:38.640 to Lady J potentially returning to uh benway to the 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:39.600 line drive seats. 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:45.400 Justine, Justine and Patrick are the Red Sox in town. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.279 They are they they're playing the A's I think. And 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.960 then uh, I don't know who who's in town on 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.520 the weekend, but yeah, it's like a six or seven 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:54.440 game home stand. 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:58.160 That's it. And then uh in the Celtics, Celtics, you know, 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:02.520 maybe they maybe they get courtside seats and they get 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.760 mad because you know, a player could crash into them. 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.920 A sweaty player into them. 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.080 I mean, this is a big week for for Justine 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:13.240 and the team. Read. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.440 Yeah, they're making the move to Live. You know, I'm 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.800 a little bit worried for her safety. She starts chirping 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.720 it you know Norman or NBS for setup stuff, for 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.400 draw stuff. But I guess it's a shotgun start, so 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.160 there's no no good draw or bad draw right ends 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.160 though they well pins and then like if you know, 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.400 I guess the first round like it's kind of luck 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.120 of the draw if you're if you're teeing off on 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.320 one or ten or fifteen, right. 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.000 Yeah. That's an interesting thing about Live, right, is like 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.840 the shotgun start works in a way that everybody's playing, 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.800 but there are different stretches of the golf course that 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.479 are harder or easier than otherwise, and it doesn't like 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.120 they need to figure out how to like account for that. 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.400 The fact that somebody can come from like one or 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.360 two groups back, but their team like they're starting on 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.039 two or three and they have to go and finish 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.560 on one or two and they're potentially gonna win the 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.400 golf tournament. Is it's insane to me. 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.640 And they send those things out to pick them up and. 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:18.240 Drive them back the tenth the London taxis so so, 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:22.320 Lady Jays, you're number one the first I would say. 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.800 The thing I'm one of the things I'm thinking about 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.960 is like what if Pat Reid or a live player wins. 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.200 Yeah, I'm kind of rooting for it, to be honest, 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.680 like in a perverse, sick way, like I'm you know, 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.280 obviously way way out on on live and I think 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:41.360 it's terrible for our game, but like man like chaos theory, 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.720 like let's just make it completely nuts. 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.320 Yeah, Like what what is the response like is that 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.280 is there? Is it less celebrated if like what if 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.360 DJ or Phil? You know when you talk. 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.360 About like, I mean Phil's not gonna win, Like, yeah, 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.239 he's not terrible golf course for him. 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.960 Well, the thing so we didn't nobody expected them to win. 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.480 At Kiwa or or or the British Open. 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:08.280 Yeah. The thing about it is like one of with 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:12.320 like DJ and Reid or you know, one of their 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:17.120 bigger players. The tour and obviously this is a USGA Championship, 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:21.200 but the tour has poured so much money into promoting 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.520 these guys. I mean, golf is a superstar driven game. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.920 The tour I think like somewhat understands that, but like 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:31.360 they do understand it in the way they promote these guys, right, 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:36.240 and like DJ, a lot of their like their their 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:40.440 play has earned them, you know, the superstardom, but the 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:45.559 tour also like promotes and like creates stars somewhat with 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:50.160 like their social media there, you know, their commercials, all 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:54.680 that this might be the first major where we have 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:58.120 a winner. And you hear like crickets from the PGA tour. 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.960 Well what about Yeah, they'll probably be twet about you know, 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:05.360 FedEx Cup standings afterwards or whatever, and yeah, Scotty's still 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.520 number one in the FedEx Cup or I think that. 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.280 Plus if guys, like if somebody knocks off too in 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.559 a row, it'd be it'd be awesome. And like they're 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.319 they're they're leading the FedEx Cup technically, but they're not 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:19.640 a PGA to remember. 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.520 Scotty might be so far in front that it's true 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.439 nobody could be. Well, I mean that Zalataurus was that 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:26.080 last year. 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:27.640 Yeah, yeah, he. 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.600 Was what thirteenth of the FedEx Cup but not listed 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:35.920 not eligible, Yeah yeah, I mean anybody that hasn't gone 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:37.520 yet that you're anticipating. 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:39.600 You're just shocked they haven't gone yet. 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.959 Yeah, I mean number one for me. And I meant 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.280 to write this in like one of our like little 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:51.599 round tables or something like. I'm utterly I don't understand 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.400 how he hasn't gone yet. It is Rory Sabatine, the 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.640 same thing the other day. It blows my mind, like 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:04.040 of all the people, and you know what part of 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:08.800 me thinks like Slugger has dealt with everybody, you know, 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.360 and maybe he's advising them and be like, listen, you guys, 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.720 get anybody I can handle. I can handle pe read 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:21.360 I I can't do Sabatini. He yells at volunteers. You 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.360 know that. That to me, this is a man that 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.040 switched to his citizenship. 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:30.040 Maybe they haven't met his number, like co Crack, which 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.520 is insane. Co Cracks holding out for more because they 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.040 haven't met his number. Co Crack's betting on himself. 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.719 I don't understand what's going on with co Crack and 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:40.200 the Golf Saudi logo. 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:42.960 I just don't understand what's going on with co Crack 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:43.480 in general. 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:48.280 But he's just a Northeast Ohio boy, just you know, 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.000 trying trying to get paid. What about you. 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:55.240 I'm shocked that, Yeah, I mean Sabatini. But like as 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:58.760 far as top shelf players, no offense to Rory, Uh. 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:00.320 He's a lower already. 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:04.439 A lot of week team Rose. Uh. Although I from 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.760 everything I'm hearing, it sounds like Tim Rose is probably 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.320 going this week in Paul Casey. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.880 Yeah what because I had heard Paul Casey was like 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.080 actively recruiting at Riviera. 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.040 Yeah, and it sounds like can't lay, Like like can't 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.040 lay sounds like the most miserable guy to have in 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.320 all the pack meetings because he thinks he's he thinks 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:25.520 everybody's you know, coming out to see him and they're 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:29.320 worth you know, five six x what they're making right now. 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.439 And so he's been just vociferous in all the pack meetings, 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.520 just insufferable, like you know, getting on Jay about all 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.680 this stuff. And it's like, yo, man, like I think 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.800 you're part of the problem, Like you're not, You're not 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.320 one of these guys like Rory or Speeth or rom 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.520 or JT who like people are coming out to watch 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.400 and like you're not driving ratings. 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.360 I think he's got the right attitude though, Yeah. 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.079 Oh, I mean I think I think Monahin should lose 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:55.080 his job personally. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:59.480 I mean, he's he Uh. They seem to have underestimated 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.439 this thing from the start, and it seems like they 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:08.079 actually are still under estimating somehow, and it doesn't seem 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.600 it's not gonna go away anytime soon. These guys have 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:11.760 four year contracts. 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.480 That brings me to my second thing that I'm excited 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:19.240 for Mike Wan's presser. I think it's on Wednesday. You know. 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:23.079 It's it's time for like some people in golf leadership 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.800 to get step up to the plate and like have 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.040 a press conference. Jamon has had two press conferences this 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:34.240 whole year. He's like he's invisible, like the house is 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.760 on fire and he is just, you know, nowhere to 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:38.200 be found. 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.040 He should go on ce NBC again. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.600 The markets are taking a dump right now too. Uh. 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.360 He's just you know, it's like, I think I'm excited 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.240 for Mike Wan to answer questions and about there, you know, 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.240 because they came out this past week and said, hey, 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.040 we're not banning these guys at least for this event. 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:00.679 And I'm sure they'll do some wonky shit with the OWGR. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.559 That's the thing I think is like the opens are 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:08.640 in this position where they in their name it's open. 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:12.600 You can't really discriminate against someone based on what tour 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:13.600 they're playing. 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.320 Yeah, and like you can't be like, hey, you know, 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.320 you're supposed to have a five year exemption because you 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:23.120 want a major, but that's not good anymore. And then 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.120 the OWGR is kind of in the same position because like, 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:31.959 if you compromise your ranking, your official World Golf rankings, 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.480 then are you the official World Golf rankings? 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:41.880 Like someone say they're already compromised some manipulation and the. 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.640 They might be getting rid of that with the with 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:46.080 the devaluing, but it also feels like they're kind of 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.800 trying to game against the Asian Tour, which is like 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:53.840 I think the Asian Tour has like, you know, outside 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.559 of Live and has the most to gain from all 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.920 of this because they could become the minor leagues of Live, 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.199 you know, and then the European Tour could. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:06.040 Just your guy, Pelly needs to he needs to do 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:06.960 something drastic. 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.040 I think might he might along with j Mon hand 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:14.400 he to exit, you know, stage left, just quietly just 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:15.959 leave as glasses. 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.200 And yeah, if the majors like decide to self diminish. 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.400 The kind of feels like a waste, right, especially like 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:26.280 the Masters, Well, it's already a limited field seven of 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.520 the last thirteen And. 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.280 If you're the Masters, why do you want to pick 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.760 the fight with with Saudi Arabia at this point? 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:36.800 Yeah, And like the Masters historically, like they've taken pleasure 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.680 in like dunking on the tour and like treating the 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.240 tour like the little brother and now they seem like 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.480 they're tight and they're close and everything, which is kind 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:45.200 of disappointing. 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:45.920 Yeah. 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:47.760 So and like I don't know, the tour is in 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:49.720 such a tenuous spot, and that's before we even get 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:55.000 to like them potentially losing lawsuits, and like even when 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.040 these lawsuits are going, there's gonna be temporary injunctions. I'm 0:14:58.080 --> 0:14:59.800 sure that like allow guys to play both. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.200 Well, that's the thing. They have a if you do 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:08.640 the if they follow the guidelines of it. Yeah, there's 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.680 a twenty eight day waiting period for an appeal, and 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.640 during that period apparently so if somebody gets suspended they 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:20.280 can appeal, they have fourteen days to appeal and then 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.360 like so like Ian Poulter who didn't resign and the 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:27.400 way they they you know, the language of that memo 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:31.400 that Mynhan sent out, if you resigned, it doesn't seem 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.880 like you're going to be suspended because it said it 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:37.560 had like language that effectively addressed the players that didn't resign, 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:42.880 and then it said, we we've recognized the resignations, and 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.880 so the players that didn't resign have they can appeal, 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.920 and then they can play during the appeal. During the appeal. 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:54.680 So I could see Bryson, you know, because he didn't resign, 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:55.960 I don't think, but he. 0:15:55.920 --> 0:16:01.120 Got dropped by by Rocket Mortgage cook and loans. Yeah, 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.320 I don't. I mean, Tiger's got to just be so pissed, 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.280 like Tiger, you know, turned down what close to a 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.040 billion dollars I guess from him. 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:13.120 And well, like I kind of think Tiger needs to 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:14.120 be like the commissioner. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.359 Possibly, yeah, maybe maybe Steiny's the commissioner. 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.880 They need somebody that and this is where the Patrick 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:26.240 Cantlay discussion. They need somebody that thinks about this as 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.960 the way a superstar would think about it, right, because 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.560 that's what the war's over. I think live understands like. 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.600 It's Peter Mulnatty versus. Yeah, versus Rory, whether Rory wants 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.360 to submit that or not and live. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.120 I think like they they probably know that they only 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:45.040 need like ten superstars and before anybody's like, oh, fill's 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:48.240 out a superstar anymore. He finished second in the PIP 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.240 And that's kind of what matters more than results on 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:55.240 the golf course, right. It is like who a fan recognizes, 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.240 and that's what golf has been about for years. 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.320 I mean there's people that work, you know, talking to 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.520 somebody the other day that was they're like a you know, 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:04.719 head pro at a at a golf club around here 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:06.919 in Michigan. They had no idea what any of this 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:08.600 was about. They're, yoh, what's going on with this with 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.240 this Saudi League or whatever, Like it's phil really going 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.639 and like that's that's somebody in the golf thing. Like 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.359 my dad texts me, He's like like, what what are 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.800 the Saudi's doing? Like I don't really followed any of this, 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.000 but this is crazy, right, And it's like I think 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.120 I think we all we tend to overestimate how uh, 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:30.040 how like engaged people are in the business of golf. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.080 It's like, no, they care about the four majors and 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.800 they might watch the players too, and and you know 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:36.879 Phil's gonna see it up, Tiger's can to see it up, 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.800 and the rest is kind of window dressing, right. 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.720 And here we're fifteen minutes in. I think this is 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:47.600 like the big story of the week, though, is even 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:51.000 major championships? This this is such a big story in 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:54.959 a sport that it is that it's the story of 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.520 the major which is which is wild, Like I'm interested 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.600 to see, you know, obviously Phil's presser on Monday morning, 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:06.840 but also like the thing that's going to happen is 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.240 like if these two live guys play a practice round 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:14.840 with this guy that's not a live guy, obviously, immediately 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.880 there's going to be speculation, is so and so going 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:22.120 to live? Like if Ron plays with you know, somebody 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:27.800 that's Pablo Latha ball because maybe they're friends tweak. Yeah, 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:29.639 I don't think Pueag's in the field, but you know, 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:32.960 I mean, and that's the that's the that's what we got. 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:37.720 So I'm moving to more interesting things. The course I 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:41.919 think is gonna be obviously, any us open course is 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:43.760 like kind of storyline one A or one B. 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.360 Are you are you worried that the that the USGA 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:51.200 is going to keep doing this touchy feely, warm and fuzzy, 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.960 let's be nice to the players approach or. 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.680 I you know, Garrett always talks about this and and 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.480 Garrett I think does a good way of a good job, 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:04.320 Like he listens, he reads the history and everything. He 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:08.840 just did that open doctor, and you know, I think 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:13.240 he he kind of compartmentalizes it. We have like waves 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.760 of of essentially set up people. And we're in the 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:20.040 Bodenhammer era, like right there was we were. We just 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.439 came out of the Mike Davis era, you know, and 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.040 now we're in the Bodenhammer area and it's just a 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.600 it's a unique era and set up and it's a 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:32.720 very friendly one. And I I kind of think it's 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.359 it's a it's gone back to thick rough. 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.960 Wider fairways. Put thick rough off those wider fairways. 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.240 Yeah, and and and really thick rough around the greens. Yeah, 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.040 you know, no more short grass. It's like a reaction. 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.120 I do think there's there's gonna be some spots here 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.640 this week with some short grass, you know, around because 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.320 the greens are tiny, tiny, Yeah, It's. 0:19:56.280 --> 0:20:00.480 I mean it'll be interesting. Like the thing I I 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:05.280 don't like. I always like if you want to test people, 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.879 like why why do they have thick ruff on the 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:09.240 backs of greens? 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:11.960 Like if you go over the green at a US Open, 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.040 like it should roll like sixty yards. 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.399 It is a spelcrow to me, like it almost like 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.760 it pads it right, Like I think like the thing that. 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.840 It's like a bumper in bowling. You know you gonna 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:27.080 just get get bumped back into the the lane. 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:30.840 I would love like this a move away Like the 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:34.119 US Open to me always feels really uniform. It's like 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.760 we're gonna have like what when they had the you know, 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:41.480 intermediate rough. It's like we're gonna have seven yards of 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:45.240 that on every fairway, every hole. And then it goes 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.480 to this. It's like why can't we just like set 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:50.240 up a golf course and be like, you know, the 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.240 right roff over here, we're just gonna have to be short. 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:55.160 But it's a terrible angle. 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.040 Like that's a that's a great like you don't want 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.119 to be over there. Yeah, so you know in the. 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.040 Left roof over here is really long. It doesn't need 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:05.399 to be the same length on both sides. You know, 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:09.240 we could have short rough over the green and long, rough, 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:10.240 short left of the green. 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:12.040 I feel the same way about bunkers, Like that was 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:15.639 something in Australia. We went down there like they you know, 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:18.119 you miss right of the screen, there's plenty of sin 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.120 in the punker. You miss left of the screen, there's 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.879 no sin and you're completely fucked. Like it's that's a 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:26.480 very like there should be varying degrees of penalty. 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:30.840 Yeah, And then also it it lends itself to like 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:35.520 the person that's most prepared and the caddy and the 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:40.040 and the player that no certain spots all of a 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.040 sudden like it's not when it's just thick rough. It's 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:46.680 really my issue with it. It just dums it down 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:50.639 and it a lot of it can be attributed to luck, 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:53.880 you know. It's just like I got good lies well. 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.239 And it's like the way that the way that you know, 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:58.359 everything works these days too, It's like these guys are 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:01.399 so long and straight, so it just favors the bigger 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.439 hitters that much more because they're they're hitting a you know, 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:07.480 a fifty four degree wedge out of it versus somebody 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:11.720 like you know, Sabatini's hitting a seven iron out of it. 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.919 You know, like that's a massive. That's a massive, you know, 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.159 especially with like I anticipate, like the greens are going 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:20.920 to be super firm. It's been really nice weather. It 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:25.000 has been really nice weather lead up here. There's a 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:25.760 ton of slope. 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:30.320 The fairways are rockets out there too, if assuming they 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:33.440 get the weather to cooperate. I mean, the ball bounces 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:36.320 and there's some contour in them that make a lot 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:40.040 of those fairways play like they feel they can look 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:43.679 kind of wide, but effectively they play really small because 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:47.159 of they run a lot and then they just have 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:49.120 some contour in them where if you hit the wrong 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.560 side of something, it just will shoot some direction. But 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:56.720 you know that's the thing, I h they're speaking to 0:22:56.760 --> 0:23:00.320 your like irregular regularities thing we play. We have an 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.440 event it's whole park every year and the eighth hole 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:08.119 there there's this you've been there. Yeah, there's this devastatingly 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:11.280 deep bunker left of the green. But it also has 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.840 like it has so much you feel like you're in 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.240 like a sand quarry. When you go in, feel like 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:19.960 you're like the beach. Yeah, there's so much sand in it, 0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:24.600 but like you know, under no circumstances can you miss 0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:26.560 in that bunker, and I think that's really. 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:28.800 And then that affects your strategy for the entire hole 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:30.600 where you like you're playing away from it, and then 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.800 you basically get you get worried about getting your hand 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.520 cut in the cookie jar. Yes, right, and and I 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.480 think there's there's something to be said for that where 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:41.359 you start playing away from it, and then there's so 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:44.800 much that goes into you know, whole locations of you know, 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:48.080 in in kind of response to that, and yeah, I 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:51.080 think it's you know, I just hope like they don't 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.320 because that was that was my concern it like wing 0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:55.720 Foot or I thought Tori was good last year, Like 0:23:55.760 --> 0:24:00.400 the setup was fine, like, but trying to get get 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.840 the greens bouncy from the very start, like the whole 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.480 ramp up Thursday Friday, and I know some of its 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.880 pace of play and you got to get however many 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:11.520 guys through you know, the first thirty six holes or whatever, 0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.120 but like, I just I think it's been a little 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:17.520 bit too toothless. The last couple opens on Thursday Friday. 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:22.679 Yeah, And I think like the USJA doesn't want this 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:25.800 identity because they hate the player backlash, and I think 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.800 social media fuels. This where the players have their own 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:30.560 platform to go. You know, we saw it with the 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:36.359 with the General Paton Kazaire at the PGA, and you know, 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.640 Hattan's complained at both majors this year. 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:41.760 But some of these guys are gonna complain any which way, 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.240 so you might as well do your identity. 0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:49.080 Part of your identity is the players aren't on the 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:52.920 PGA tour this week, Yeah, they're coming, and the USGA 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.760 is kind of the US Open is the place where 0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:59.840 players have to kind of like part of the challenge 0:24:59.880 --> 0:25:03.960 is is dealing with the emotions of feeling like you're 0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:08.760 getting screwed over, yeah, and having some aandamat Like I 0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:12.720 like some mental Yes, I like the idea of a 0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:15.040 course that gets a little under it. And I think 0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:18.960 Brookline could do that because of it's really hard that 0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:19.840 place so much. 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:22.440 So there's so much cool quirk too. Like I was talking, 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.879 I was talking to Caddy last night about it, and 0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:26.240 I was like, dude, like it kind of reminds me 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.880 of Birkdale a little bit. And then like there's there's 0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.320 a lot of up and down. There's a lot of 0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:34.600 you know, movement up the hills like fourteen that part five. 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:36.680 It might be the only part five in the world 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.160 that matters anymore. Like it's I think both the part 0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:42.320 five like six sixty up the hill and it like 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:44.560 even if you're laying up, you have to hit like 0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:47.679 a two hundred and thirty yard shot up to this 0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.639 tabletop area and then you missed the green like like 0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:55.760 short and it's rolling back down the hill like eighty yards. 0:25:56.160 --> 0:26:00.760 Yeah. That that fourteenth hole is I mean, I think 0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:04.720 like Pebble fourteen is another good par five and in 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:08.480 for US Open Golf, but this one is like Pebble fourteen. 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.240 I feel like I'm kind of steroid, like. 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:16.680 Bigger green, but but much much more like severe upslope, yeah, 0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:17.680 all the way up to it. 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:21.720 Effectively, if you don't hit the fairway there, you're laying 0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:25.680 up short of this rock cliff, you won't be able 0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:26.640 to see anything. 0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:29.520 And you have like two ten into into green with 0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:33.520 like a shinnecock style, like you know, false front on there. 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.159 Yeah and and yeah, and you won't be able to 0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:40.120 see there's a tree. And yeah. Both both part fives 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.280 are going to be really fun to watch. I think 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:45.240 That's the other thing is like there's some just truly 0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:49.080 great holes out there, like three four on the really 0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.680 two two through six is going to be an amazing 0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:56.080 stretch of golf to watch, and that, to me is 0:26:56.080 --> 0:27:00.119 is probably the coolest part of the whole course. And 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.480 i'm i'm I think the par three's in general are 0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.399 really one of the strongest aspects of the golf course. 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:11.400 But then you know, ten obviously is a truly it's 0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:16.359 a converted par five into par four. That green is insane. 0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.399 There's just so quick, essentially New England, where you're driving 0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:23.000 over these these exposed rock outcroppings to kind of a 0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.879 blind area, you know, over this little hill, but you 0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:27.680 can bail out down the left, but then your angle 0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.040 sucks into the green. Like there's I mean, there's so 0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.520 many guys that are going to be defeated before before 0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:35.800 like the first nine is even over because they can't 0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.879 handle the blind shots and you know some of the 0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:40.119 quirk of the place. 0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.000 Yeah, that's the thing is like it's one of my 0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.440 favorite T shots is the twelve T shot out there, 0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.560 and it's just like it's blind that it is not 0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:52.080 a typical US Open course, and none of these guys 0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:54.040 outside of the guys that played the US Am have 0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.040 really seen it, which I think is one of the 0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:59.560 cool things about this year, with Southern Hills being basically 0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.960 a new course here being you know, you get like 0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.720 some it's not going to Pebble where they see every 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:10.119 year or Tory, like that's one of the things that diminishes. 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.520 I think the majors at at when they have them 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.720 at Pebble or Torri feel like we see it every year, 0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.520 you know, and it's obviously not the same type of thing, 0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.040 but this one we haven't seen in most golf fans. 0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:25.840 I mean I remember the Ryder Cup barely most golf 0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:29.399 fans I have never seen this course, even. 0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:34.680 The Ryder Cup. Like that seventeenth hole, that green is unrecognizable. Yeah, 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.680 they've they've brought that thing back out so much. There's 0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:39.760 so there's some really really cool pins there, Like that's 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:43.280 such a cool hole, great driving hole. That closing stretch 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:47.080 is great, like the you know fourteen through fourteen through 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.680 seventeen or fourteen through eighteen or just fantastic. I mean 0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:54.760 eighteen green is like there's not that many pinnable spots there. 0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:58.960 It's gonna be so neat to watch that chips if 0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.760 they do that front pan because they've recaptured the front 0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:06.400 and it's all unpinnable space, but it's a really cool, 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.600 like point, you might see some really neat chips that 0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.200 roll up the hill come back and like potentially in 0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:15.479 like that hole yields and we can yield some pre 0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:20.280 creative recovery and then yeah, sixteen, everybody will shit on 0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:22.320 sixteen compared to the other par threes. 0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.400 Sixteen's cool, like super understated. Back in that little corner, 0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:27.560 and the green is awesome. 0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.920 The green that's it might be the best green on 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:33.640 the golf course. The back half they use a backpin there. 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.480 It's a long par three. The back half runs away 0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.880 on that green and if you land it like middle 0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:43.200 to back, it's just shooting off. It might jump out 0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.480 like all the way out of the property. 0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.120 Yeah, I thought I aced it when or put in 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:49.760 the media day. I was off the back of the 0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.480 green and like landed at pin high, Yeah, and just 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:53.520 shot forward. 0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:59.240 Now for a quick word from our sponsor, the USGA. 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.719 As you would note if you've been listening to this podcast, 0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:06.320 the US Open is this week, and uh, I've got 0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:09.480 great news for you. From June sixteenth through the nineteenth, 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.560 there will be wall to wall coverage of golf on 0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:18.760 Usopen dot Com, NBC USA, and Peacock. This year, for 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.320 the one hundred and twenty second US Open at the 0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:25.440 country Club at Brookline nine, two hundred and sixty five 0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.760 players entered and only one hundred and fifty six qualified 0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.160 and obviously one will win. This is this is a 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:36.600 great championship, So tune in on NBC USA and Peacock 0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:40.160 as well as Usopen dot Com and uh, I think 0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:44.520 we're everything shaping up for a great championship. So now 0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:48.280 back to tron Carter. So it's a it's it's a 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:52.640 neat golf course. I think, like I'm I'm really interested 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.640 to see what the public thinks because I think it's 0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:59.320 got enough visuals and eye candy to like, I think 0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:01.640 one of the things that happens is at like a 0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.240 wing foot or wingfoot, like if you're if you know 0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.680 what you're looking at, Like the greens are so cool, 0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.440 but if you don't, it's flat and there's not a 0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:11.480 whole lot of dog legs. Yeah, and you don't have 0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:16.000 like that like beautiful, but I think. 0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.600 There's so much more, there's so much more elevation. Yeah, 0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:21.840 and there's so much more context and like texture there 0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:25.440 I think where but that comes back to is NBC 0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.920 going to do it justice? Like like like some of 0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.640 my favorite shots of the US Open are like the 0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.200 wide two or three hole pans, like they do a 0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.520 really good job of this at Oakmont right or like 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.600 you see you see several holes in the same shot 0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:43.040 and you see like truly how how you know, dramatic 0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:45.800 some of these elevation changes are. And Fox got really 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.360 good at doing that towards the end of their run. 0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.560 And I'm fearful that because I think NBC has a 0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.600 tendency to just use like a bunch of tower cams 0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.200 that tend to look down on everything and like wash 0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.880 out any sort of you know, intrigue or any sort 0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:02.400 of like you know, severe elevation changes. It makes everything 0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.920 look flat. So because I mean like fifteen is a 0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:08.480 great example as well, like tee off down that hill 0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:11.680 over the road and then great Green there as well, 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:13.960 and like it feels quintessentially New England. You got to 0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.080 go through like from fourteen Green to fifteen Tea, you 0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:20.320 have to go through somebody's backyard. He's like leasing them 0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:24.440 like the land this week to you know, basically avoid 0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:29.000 the crowds, you know, back around that tea box. It's 0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.160 it's gonna be like quirky and cool back in that 0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:31.800 low corner. 0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:35.840 Yeah. I think one thing that I think, I thought 0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.280 they did a really good job at the Women's US 0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:45.040 Open with There were extraordinary, like next level stuff that 0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.479 I haven't really seen. And I'm hoping a lot of 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:52.880 that carries over to this week because that that visual 0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:54.840 experience was really good. 0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.480 We haven't talked about the shorty Little Part three yet. 0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:00.120 Your thoughts. 0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.440 I think it's great. I mean it's it's just a 0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:05.800 little drop shot. Especially if there's a front pin there, 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:07.040 it's gonna be wild. 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:11.520 Yeah. Yeah, it's uh, that's the thing. It's a It's 0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.960 one of those shots that feels really easy until you 0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:15.840 miss it and then when you miss it. 0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:16.880 Your scar tissue. 0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:20.239 Yeah. And I in the media day I played, I 0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:22.840 was playing pretty pretty decent. I was hitting the ball 0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:25.160 well and I hit I thought a really good shot there. 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.320 I end up just short. I ended up walking away 0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.720 with a six. Like it's really really treacherous if you 0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:32.640 miss the green and the wrong spot, and it's easy 0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:34.760 to do when you get that wedge. Let's talk about 0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:38.200 some of the players. I think one of my big 0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:42.400 big storylines is, uh, can somebody get two majors in 0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:47.160 a year? We'll see I mean, like we were set 0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:50.320 up for we got two guys that like it doesn't 0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.840 matter where they where they play, that won the first two, 0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.680 you know, Scotty and JT. Obviously, I think you you 0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.200 put them in that both of them is like the 0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.640 you know, one of the favorite. It's I think, you know, 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.480 it'd be great. I think if if somebody won two 0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:08.600 majors this year, and because we were we have so 0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.200 many guys with one major, you know, and so many 0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:14.960 and and JT obviously getting to three majors would be huge. 0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.279 For he's at the point now with two majors, like 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.680 every major he adds, he's moving up in the echelon 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:25.759 of great players, like dramatically, right. And for Scotty, like 0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.240 you're talking about number one player in the world having 0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:32.200 a historic year, he gets the second major. Now Alsoden, 0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:34.640 you're talking about like one of the greatest seasons ever 0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.360 right in the modern era. You know, he would be 0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.440 a six wins two majors, like just there and then 0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:44.040 he's got still got a lot of tournaments left. So 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.400 that's kind of one of the things I'm watching is 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.680 with these guys, and and you talked about earlier, like 0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.080 what if the live guy frad holds off the next two. 0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:57.799 You know, the like both it's like simultaneously awful and hilarious, 0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.200 you know, especially with Saint Andrew next Yeah too. I 0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.000 mean it's you know, it's gonna be I think it's 0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.480 two courses that encourage guys to play a little bit creatively. 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.080 So I don't know, I still like, I think there's 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.319 I think there's something to be said for being in 0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:15.320 the fairway hitting a bunch of greens. It kind of 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.560 reminds me like the Marion US Open where Justin Rose won, 0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.839 but like Billy Horse will hit like all eighteen greens 0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.160 one of the rounds, Like I think Horsell sets up 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.200 really well. I think like a guy like Fleetwood, Like 0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.080 he's not the longest guy in the world, but as 0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:30.160 long as the putter stays hot, like Fleetwood just just 0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:33.920 really good iron play, you know, distance control. Uh. It 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.640 feels kind of like a speedy golf course to me too. 0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.160 One of the things with the Yeah, especially the way 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:43.799 Spee's driving it. It's gonna be really hard and there 0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.600 to me, like because of how much contour is in 0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:50.520 the greens. I didn't think about this, but like it 0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.560 might actually favor a guy like Fleetwood who's not the 0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.759 best putter. But you know a lot of times that 0:35:56.800 --> 0:36:01.960 you're twenty five feet lagging exactly like you you've got, 0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.640 I got. I had a two great shots on ten. 0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:10.360 I couldn't have hit two better shots. And I was 0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.440 like twenty feet away and I'm hitting a putt and 0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:13.239 I'm like it. 0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:14.440 Was like an auto three putt. 0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:19.080 I was legitimately like where where do I need to 0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:22.240 hit this so that I have like a four footter? Yeah, 0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:24.800 to make part and walk away from here. And I 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:26.720 think a lot of those greens because of that old 0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:32.879 school like it's not wingfoot has sections and you get 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.680 into those sections and they're kind of flat. I don't 0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.640 feel like. I feel like the country Club just has 0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:40.719 a lot of slope all over the place. 0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:43.120 And it blends into yeah, sections blend into one another. 0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:46.840 And part of that, like they're really cool greens, but 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:50.160 they don't look really cool from a photograph because it's 0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:52.799 just like kind of like a continuous slope with like 0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:54.239 pockets of different. 0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.240 And they're framed by so much rough around them. 0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:59.600 So the greens don't like pop visually, but they are 0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.080 very cool greens, and they they're like treacherous in a 0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:07.160 different way than the masters or a wing foot or 0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:09.560 you know, even a southern hills where you could see 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:14.719 these distinct sections, so when you're twenty five feet away, 0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:18.080 you might be lagging. Yeah, and you think like Shinnakock 0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.880 in a way had some of that too, you know, 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:24.480 it's not like you think about Shinnacock's greens and they're 0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:26.960 you know, Flynn did a lot of work here, and 0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:29.040 Flynn did a lot of work at Shinnacock, and that's 0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:32.919 Flynn golf courses, and I think the country called fits. 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.800 This is like you're hitting from these really terrible lies, 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.919 like or just really weird lies to greens that are 0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:44.360 like heavily contoured in one direction, and it becomes about 0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:48.799 being the proper side and that's really difficult when the 0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:50.400 lies aren't perfect. Yeah. 0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.560 Well, and it's it basically makes you know, like it's 0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:56.040 like the smart golf ins like clapping for a shot 0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:57.799 that hits the middle of the green this week is 0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.120 like like on some of these holes like if you're 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:01.520 coming out of the rough and you're hitting the green, 0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:05.520 like more power to you, like like kudos, because that's 0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:07.840 gonna be. So that's why, like I love, you know, 0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:11.399 I'm not sure Cam Smith is, Like I don't think 0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:13.600 he's gonna drive it well enough. And I think, you know, 0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:16.120 he likes short grass and I think some of his 0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:18.279 flare and imagination around the greens is gonna be a 0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:21.640 little bit neutered by like just gallging out of of 0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.080 of thick rough around greens. But like a guy like 0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:26.319 Shane Lowry, I think is another one, like guys that 0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:30.320 maybe it's just you know European, you know, Irish British 0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:33.080 guys that kind of can can you know, play with 0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:34.799 some imagination and some creativity. 0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:39.640 Shane Lowry is just a great hard golf course player. Yeah, right, 0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:46.440 Cam Smith, to me, it's gonna get lost. But like 0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:50.279 that finish at at Southern Hell's he led the led 0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.120 the field tee to green and he was abysmal with 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.279 the potter. Yeah, like that was a major that I'm 0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.680 guessing like he probably thinks about as like I hit 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:01.799 the ball. That's got to be one of the most 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:03.919 frustrating things is when you hit the ball well enough 0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:06.480 you're one of the greatest putters and it just goes cool. 0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:10.520 Yeah yeah, and and that you know, and he played 0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:13.880 obviously really well like this year to me, like that, 0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:17.479 that T twelve at Southern Hills was a really good 0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:21.480 T twelve And obviously the Masters, he was the only 0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:24.360 one that had really a chance to win other than Scottie. 0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.480 I think another guy that like going back to our 0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:31.520 conversation about this kind of neutralizing the putting or almost 0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:34.800 freeing a guy up a little bit, uh big tone, 0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:38.120 big tones, playing well trending. He's so good off the tee, 0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:41.320 like he can hit that you know, bunty three wood 0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:46.160 down there, like three ten and just good iron player 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:49.840 and like lagging putts around and making a bunch of 0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:51.719 pars and then picking off, you know, a couple of 0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.560 birdies here and there. It's just you know, keep an 0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:55.600 eye off a big tone. 0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.080 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing. It's like 0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:01.719 you you might not have to great this week. Yeah. 0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:04.880 I Like, I think Max is like just good iron. 0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:07.320 Like I'm looking at good iron players who are pretty 0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:11.839 straight off the tee and resilient like mentally, like because 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:15.080 like I mean Ted Scott posted a video of it 0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:19.160 this morning, the fairway on nine, Like, you know, that's 0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:21.120 that's one of the hesitations I have with Billy Horschel. 0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:25.480 It's like, you know, if he gets completely like rolling 0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:29.000 down the hell on that fourteen or nine, like on nine, 0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:31.120 like you can hit it down even the left side 0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:34.280 of the fairway and the ball goes into into the 0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:35.160 lake on the right. 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:40.160 It's a yeah, I mean it brings me to Rory 0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:44.879 and Speath, Right, those are two guys that I don't 0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:46.560 know if Rory can just keep it together. 0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.920 I just don't trust him. Yeah, I mean speed, but speed. 0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:56.600 I feel like it's like I felt sweet out of 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.120 colonial and it's just it's exhaust Like I don't know 0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.520 how he gets through data dead life because it's so 0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:05.360 like between the preshot routine and then the just the 0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:07.640 missed shorties, but then he'll make a thirty footer like 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:10.200 it's a it's a really exhausting way to play golf. 0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.760 I think that's why people like him so much. Oh yeah, 0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:17.759 but yeah it I mean he's just not a good 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:21.200 putter right now. No, he's hitting the ball the best 0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:22.320 he's ever hit in his career. 0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:24.160 But he's kind of got the more Cowa thing going 0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:26.160 where like or like the Zalatorus thing, where like he's 0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:31.640 not a good putter from you know, four to ten feet, 0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.560 but he's like he's still like he's still making a 0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:38.399 bunch of potts from like twenty five feet. It's yeah, 0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:40.759 it's like it's like the irrational confidence. 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:42.719 NBA. You know. 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:44.719 It's it's like it's like a j. R. Smith kind 0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.400 of thing where he's like irrationally confident. He's pulling up 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:50.160 from everywhere, and it's like somebody's got to heat check him. 0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:52.080 But I think he can get on one of those 0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:54.239 runs and just string him together. But I also think 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:57.879 there's less This is a good major for him because 0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.840 there's less emphasis on making a bunch of birdies, just 0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:02.800 trying to stack up pars and pick off a birdie 0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.480 here and there. Like if you shoot sixty eight or 0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.160 sixty nine, that's great. You don't have to go out 0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:08.640 and shoot sixty five or sixty six. 0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.560 Yeah, yeah, it's uh. I mean you start to look 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.799 at the players you brought up more Kawa. It's kind 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.759 of been a down year for him Hoveland, like the 0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:21.480 guys that everybody was talking about John Rahm. Yeah, all 0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.360 the you know, rom obviously won in Mexico, but that 0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:26.760 was like a. 0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:27.399 Group of Selenas. 0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.759 The field was abysmal and it wasn't really like it 0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.080 wasn't one of the like that was one of those like, oh, 0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:35.200 if good players were in this field, that would have 0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:38.400 been a tea time, yeah, or a T four. But 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.719 the thing about it's been kind of a down year. 0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:45.040 I actually like wonder if the live stuff's been like 0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:48.320 a distraction because those are like the pre that going 0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:51.719 into the year, premiere guys, and now we've got like 0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:56.720 kind of Cam Smith has become a premier guy and 0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:00.399 Scottie Scheffler's become a premier guy who was and thought 0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:02.160 of at the beginning of the year. And I wonder 0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:07.040 could like the live distraction actually be you know, a 0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:09.600 real thing, because you see it with other sports, like 0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:12.520 trade rumors and like having to make these big like 0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.239 way a sign guys, and some guys don't handle it well. 0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:18.560 And I wonder, like you these are young players that 0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.520 maybe aren't dealing well with like having to make these 0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:22.280 big decisions. 0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:25.279 It's like the it's like the NBA free agency or 0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:28.759 NBA trade deadlines like woj bombs and you know what's 0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:33.520 Sham's reporting, right, I think something else. I'm looking forward 0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.560 to them, uh, to see what they do with the pairings, 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:38.880 because it's, you know, going back to what we were 0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:41.640 saying about practice rounds like taking dicey too. They like 0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:44.239 to do some cheeky shit, right, Remember when they did 0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:45.880 the fat pairing of years. 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.000 Ago Burly Boys. 0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:50.160 That was outrageous. 0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:53.160 I mean, it would be amazing if they put Rory 0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:58.239 with Phil or JT with Phil, like you know, the 0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:03.120 guys that have just like just like demolished Phil and 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:05.680 they put them with them, like, it'd be pretty pretty 0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:10.680 mean spirited. But hey, I just thought of a name. Hideki. 0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:13.960 Is he hurt? I don't know. 0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:17.920 How long ago. Does it feel like that Hideki hit 0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:22.200 that three wood at that's Sony? I mean that feels 0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:24.959 like it was four years ago. It's true, it's less 0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:26.200 than five months ago. 0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:29.719 And that's like the thing is, like you talk about 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:33.200 a guy that doesn't this really accurate tea de Green, 0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:37.319 great iron player, a little bit balky putter. Maybe this 0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:42.160 is a spot sung Jay, same thing. I mean, that's 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.759 I think one of the footholds of of this live. 0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:48.799 They obviously have the Asian Tour, Yeah, but if they 0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:52.439 pick off some of the like the big names of Asia. 0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:56.800 Yeah, Takumi Kanaya thinks of that like, yeah. 0:44:56.680 --> 0:45:02.280 Like you know what, you know, if Hideki the tour 0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:05.080 then loses kind of a lot of its global presence, 0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.680 Hitdeki might be the biggest name that nobody's talking. 0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.200 Or the CJ Cup becomes a hell of a lot 0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:11.640 less valuable. 0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:14.160 Yeah, because like you don't have the big name players, right, 0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:18.839 And that's like it's it's in it's hard to do 0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:21.799 these this pod right now and talk about like the 0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:25.600 player analysis without that being the second part of it. Right, 0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:28.600 It's like how is this guy gonna compete out here? 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:32.040 But you know, also this what's your winning score? 0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:35.640 I kind of feel like they've we've gotten into like 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.239 the six to ten range. 0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:37.879 Exactly where I'm at. 0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:42.840 Yeah, all right, so what Like I've heard though from 0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:46.000 numerous people and having played out there, that this is 0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:51.200 like legitimately the hardest with Shinnakok the hardest golf course. 0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:54.800 So if if we're gonna get an even par tournament, 0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:58.960 it's this is a place like like Shinnecock that will 0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:01.879 get it. It's just really depends on like how how 0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.000 much they want to push it. I think if they 0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.600 push it and put it close to the edge, it 0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:11.200 will be that type of of a test like that, 0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:14.160 that'll be the type of you know, scory that you'll get. 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.120 I'm gonna check my weather app to see what we're 0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:16.560 gonna get. 0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:20.239 What. Yeah, you've got You've got the primo weather app. 0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:21.480 And you're a big weather guy. 0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:25.520 Huge weather guy. But yeah, like, well so all right, 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.480 while I'm looking that up, what how many things? Like 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:30.520 what are your five things? 0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:31.719 I think, which which ones? 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:32.400 Have we covered? 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:35.480 We've got we got live, we got the course? Uh 0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:37.480 can somebody get to in a year? And then I 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:40.200 had Rory and Speith and I think just the young guys, 0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.920 Like I think there are a lot of guys and 0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:46.160 this is almost like a storyline because of the way 0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.280 golf is and we we've I've talked about it before, 0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:52.640 but like, we have a lot of young guys that 0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:55.200 are really highly ranked that have never done ship in 0:46:55.280 --> 0:47:00.480 a major, like Hovelin's one of them. Patrick Cantley is 0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:03.799 the ultimate case here. He's number he's number three in 0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:04.280 the world. 0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:06.799 Empty catlories man, and. 0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:08.560 You start to go down the list, and it's like 0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:11.680 Sam Burns obviously, like it's hard because there's these guys 0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:16.000 are having such success so young, and it's like they 0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:18.960 have such a small sample size. But you know another 0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:22.320 guy that has hasn't really done much in a major 0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:25.239 in a Whiles Xander. You know he's up there high 0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:27.400 in the rankings. 0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:29.799 Doing lately, yes, even on tour. What's his Billy. 0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:32.839 Horshel's one right, Billy has never done anything. I mean, 0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:36.160 it'd be great to see Billy outside of Marion, you know, 0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:39.080 which was a long time ago. Play. Well, I'm kind 0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:40.080 of back in on Billy. 0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:45.839 I mean, Billy's like he's an acquired taste, but he's 0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:49.279 also it's just better when Billy's involved. It's he's just 0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:52.359 such an outrageous. 0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:53.560 He's a content man machine. 0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:54.880 It's crazy. 0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:59.880 He's throwing clubs. He's gonna you know, he's gonna be saying, oh, Billy, he's. 0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:02.320 Gonna be talking way too much in the post round presser. 0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.440 I'll never forget. I was playing with a tour player 0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:07.600 and I asked him, like, who's who's Like when you 0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:11.520 see the draw come out, who's your least favorite guy 0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.200 to see in your group and goes, oh, without a doubt, 0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:18.719 Billy just never shuts up. It's just and I just 0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:22.480 can't handle that. Like he's I think Billy games people 0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:27.839 without knowing he's gaming people. Is the thing, Like that's 0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:32.319 why he should be on just why he should be 0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:36.360 on these Ryder Cup teams. Is that nobody he doesn't 0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:39.960 He's not even intentionally doing it, like the oh, buddy, 0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:45.239 it's the buddy, say Bud, I mean he won and 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.640 he said, yeah, thanks buddy, you know, like. 0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:55.640 You kind of sold me on Xander. You know, we'll 0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:58.920 throw out the Byron Nelson jas that was an absolute travesty. 0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:01.879 But he finished tea by there T thirteen at Southern 0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:05.800 Hills T eighteen Memorial. Like he's he's playing good golf. 0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:08.799 I think he he's one of those guys that like 0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:12.960 he drives it really well, good iron player, can play creatively. 0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:14.839 You know, maybe it's his time. 0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:20.400 It would it would Internet critics would be you know, Anders, 0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:24.279 Xanders like a hot topic. He's like a it's one 0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:27.160 of those like how do you he's like a Democrat Republican? 0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:30.960 How do you feel about Xander? 0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:35.680 Middle crowd Xanderman be like gun control gay marriage or 0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:39.120 something like that. It's just like a wedge issue, right. 0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:43.200 That is a hot topic in America in American golf. 0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:45.719 Is how do you feel about Xander Schoff. I'm on 0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:48.520 the on the side of, like, you can't contend in 0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:51.960 this many majors and not be really a great player. 0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:55.400 And but then there's like he doesn't he doesn't close 0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:58.080 things out, he wins these small events. Is the is 0:49:58.120 --> 0:49:59.120 the backside of it? 0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:01.960 I think Hovelin, I'm ready for Hoblind to like should 0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:03.239 or get off the pot a little bit. 0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:06.000 This could be actually a great Hobland course. 0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:10.880 Because it's neutering the chipping issues. Yeah, yeah, the through negating. 0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:15.320 And like you talk about, Hobland is an extraordinary driver 0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:18.040 of the golf ball without being extraordinarily long. 0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:22.120 Yeah, totally. I think, Uh, all right, who do you 0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:25.400 think freaks out like Hatton? Is he going to make 0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:27.839 it three for three on because somebody's gonna freak out 0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:30.000 about some of the like some of the pins are 0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:33.320 going to be outrageous just because there's no other options. Uh. 0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:36.800 And you know, I think the fairway on nine going 0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:40.080 into the into the pond, and then there's a couple 0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:41.240 holes where like your ball. 0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:44.839 False run on, roll down on what is it? Eight? 0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:48.960 Faalse front on eight could do it? Uh, I'm looking 0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:52.319 at the list here. I mean, we haven't even talked 0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:54.239 about Kopka. I don't even know what. 0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:56.080 I don't know what to do with Ka. I never 0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:57.000 know what to do with Kopka. 0:50:58.440 --> 0:50:59.520 I would you know? 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:03.799 I'm liking JT more and more. 0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:07.560 I'd love to see Kevin Nah freak out goes to live. 0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:13.440 He's He's the head of the Ironheads. I'd love to 0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:17.120 see a Kevin nah freak out. I always love seeing 0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:19.799 Kevin freak out at Aaron Hills. Remember he did the 0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:25.479 crawling out of the rough thing thirsty Kevin. That could 0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:27.560 be my pick, I mean, for a freak out, who 0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:32.279 would you? Bryson could be ripe for one. 0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:35.440 I don't even think Bryson's engaged enough right now or like, 0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:37.480 I don't think his expectations are like to go out 0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:41.080 and win something like this, You know, I would say, 0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:44.000 I think I think my money's on Billy or Hat 0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:46.080 and just keep that train rolling. 0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:50.520 Billy could who's your pick to win? You've been hot, 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.719 You're you're like a on a on a true heater. 0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:56.520 Pick and winners just all over the place. 0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:59.640 You might get the form of golf's foremost you know, 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:01.359 gaming expert. At this point, I. 0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:05.319 Even picked picked plays four guys this week, and I 0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:08.440 you know, I picked I picked Lynn Grant for Randy. 0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:12.960 Lynn Grant's leading in the Scandinavian Mixed. Uh the other 0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:14.279 guy that we haven't talked about. I think this is 0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:19.200 a good course for p really yeah, you know, good 0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:21.560 driver the golf ball. Now that he's out out of 0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:26.080 the PXG stable, he's got that grind Works in the bag, 0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:26.719 Like what. 0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:30.120 How is he using a grind Works driver? 0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:33.480 The fact that he have a PXG sponsorship without a 0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:38.919 single PXG club in the bag was remarkable. I'm going 0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:44.279 Fleetwood taking Fleetwood. Yeah, Tommy, Tommy boy, how about you? 0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:48.239 Uh well, I've got Scheffler still, I haven't picked him 0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:50.319 for my one and done lake. That's I'm not one 0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:53.520 and done. All my text are based around what I've done. 0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:58.320 I think, uh, I you know, obviously all around talent, 0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:01.120 but I think, I mean, I think there's a lot 0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:04.319 of chance in this tournament because of just breaks like 0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:05.720 you know lies. 0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:08.680 It looks like we're gonna get some wind. Thursday, Thursday 0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:10.360 and Friday, but not a whole lot on the weekend 0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:11.799 the GFT. 0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:13.640 So do you think the wind comes with water on 0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:14.520 the greens? 0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:17.480 I hope not. God, I hope that nothing pisses me 0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:20.360 off more than them throwing water on the greens overnight 0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:22.160 or you know, first thing in the evening. 0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:25.520 You might be out there first thing in the morning monitoring. 0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:27.840 Be like the Buddhist monk, like letting myself on fire 0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:30.560 on the green. So they don't, they don't, they can't 0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:31.080 water it. 0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:32.560 Did you get to five things? 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:35.240 I mean, we're I think I did. I like Pairings 0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:41.919 Lady Jay, ninth fair Way, Mike Wan Presser, and then 0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:44.600 that was kind of my four things, and then just fourteen. 0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:47.720 It could be will Zalataurus again. 0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:51.920 Yeah, it could be trill time. It's uh, you know, 0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:53.640 where are you staying? 0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:58.000 We're in Cambridge, Okay, it's hard to you know, it 0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:00.640 was hard to find a house. Yeah, close by, we're 0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:04.880 the Precision Pro House, the house the range Finders built 0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:09.520 in Cambridge. It was hard to find something in in Brookline. 0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:12.960 It's uh, I think we're in Brookline Village, the Hilton 0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:16.280 Garden in Fancy. Yeah, I'm a Marriott guy. So it 0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:19.200 pains me to go to the Hilton Garden in but uh, 0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:21.879 you know we should we should meet in North End 0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:25.960 or something one night for yeah, break some bread. Some 0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:29.240 good places there, some great, great restaurants are in Cambridge, 0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:31.319 in Summerville. That's kind of where all the really good 0:54:31.360 --> 0:54:31.839 stuff is. 0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:35.080 I mean, Brendan's returning to Boston. This is a this 0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:42.520 is a Boston Boston college. You know, a notorious alum 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:45.719 returning to Boston for the you know, first time in 0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:46.080 a while. 0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:48.799 He's on shaky ground, doesn't alum though, because I know 0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:54.640 he was a big you know, Steve Dazio guy, you. 0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:57.399 Know, content it could be a contentious exactly. Now he's 0:54:57.480 --> 0:55:00.640 just uh, he's a he's a Capitol Hill guy down there, 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:02.080 you know, Yeah. 0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:05.120 Beltway golfer belt a Just is he taking me a 0:55:05.200 --> 0:55:08.239 sella up? Is he taking the train up? 0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:10.560 I don't think so. I think he's flying, you know 0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:13.080 when he might have a kid in a bag. You know, 0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:14.920 you never know what's going to happen. 0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:18.920 So great airport. I like logan, it's good airport. 0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:20.840 I don't like how far you got to go together 0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:21.719 in an uber. 0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:24.799 Yeah from the Yeah, and then like if you want 0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:26.600 to take the train, you got to like get on 0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:28.960 the one train to go over to the other train. 0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:29.879 That's tough. 0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:33.480 What I appreciate is the proximity to the town exactly. 0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:37.920 You know, there's nothing worse than that's like the dark 0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:41.280 stain on uh on on Denver. 0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:44.400 Oh, don't even get me starts on Denver, like the 0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:47.279 light people. The Illuminati needs to get their ship figured out. 0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:51.480 Yeah, yeah, this, you know, one day we'll we'll we'll 0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:53.759 chop up airports. I feel like, you know, there's a 0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:57.000 there's a lot of takes. You know, there's nowhere worse 0:55:57.040 --> 0:55:57.560 than Dallas. 0:55:57.600 --> 0:56:02.800 In my opinion, Dallas is awful. It's awful. I mean, Dallas, Charlotte, Miami, 0:56:03.040 --> 0:56:05.640 those are bad airports. They're all they're all American homes. 0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:12.000 Miamis Yeah, there's bad. All right. This is great, great 0:56:12.040 --> 0:56:14.720 catching up. Haven't had you on the pod in a while, 0:56:14.920 --> 0:56:18.560 And we'll look for you in Boston and follow all 0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:20.960 the great stuff you guys are doing at the laying up. 0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:23.200 So thank you for having me. 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