Speaker 1: Welcomes to another This is AR the Official Jet Podcast
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Speaker 1: in the bed MGM studio, Bart Scott joining us later
Speaker 1: in the show for our Victor Knox Swiss Army Player
Speaker 1: of the Game segment e A Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: to you and yours. I can't believe it's Thanksgiving already
Speaker 1: as we sit here in the bet MGM studio. It
Speaker 1: feels like yesterday we kicked this thing off. But the
Speaker 1: Jets are already ten games into their season. Before you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna look up and it's gonna be Christmas. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's it's We're in like that Milky Way stretch. I
Speaker 1: call it the Milky Way stretch. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I just kind of came up with that, But before
Speaker 1: you know it, like you said, it's Thanksgiving, then it's Christmas.
Speaker 1: It's really a month, but it feels like a week
Speaker 1: and a half. And a couple of things about Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: E A and I both agree that turkey is an
Speaker 1: overrated bird, stock great and thanks you Giving. It's gonna
Speaker 1: look very different for I would say everybody in two
Speaker 1: thousand twenty, and you know, I'm curious as a Jets employee,
Speaker 1: of course, e A. You've obviously worked on Thanksgiving before,
Speaker 1: So like, what's that like? It's good if you win.
Speaker 1: I mean, we were just talking about this before we
Speaker 1: uh started the podcast. Is that I guess I've worked
Speaker 1: three times on Thanksgiving. As far as games are concerned,
Speaker 1: the Jets one in two in those games, they did
Speaker 1: beat the Cincinnati Bengals back in two thousand ten ten.
Speaker 1: That's the game you called the brand Smith Smith Game.
Speaker 1: It's the last time that just made the playoffs two
Speaker 1: thousand times. So a lot of Jets fans right now
Speaker 1: aren't feeling really thankful about their football team, as the
Speaker 1: Green and White own time for the only time enfranchise
Speaker 1: history is still searching for that elusive first victory. But
Speaker 1: as far as the week is concerned, from an employee perspective,
Speaker 1: it's awesome because you get that extended weekend. A do
Speaker 1: you finish your game day duties, you do a pregame show,
Speaker 1: postgame show, you take care of what's remaining on Friday,
Speaker 1: and then you're able to relax the weekend. I've always
Speaker 1: argued that the Cowboys and the Alliance, who traditionally play
Speaker 1: at home on Thanksgiving have a huge advantage because they
Speaker 1: get that mini buying, then they have a home game
Speaker 1: and that opposing team is always coming to their place.
Speaker 1: The Jets did play the Cowboys in OH seven. That
Speaker 1: game was not close. Okay, you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: the Lions are at least in my lifetime, I've always
Speaker 1: been the one o'clock game, and I feel like that
Speaker 1: is the sweet spot because you get you get to work,
Speaker 1: you get over with and then you can still have
Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving dinner on Thanksgiving if you so choose, whereas
Speaker 1: if you're the four game, you're probably having a light
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving or Thanksgiving the following day. I never could get
Speaker 1: into the early game. You know where people will sit
Speaker 1: in front of the the TV. I'm not a great sitter.
Speaker 1: I love watching football, but I gotta take care of business,
Speaker 1: meaning maybe work out, uh, go out with the dogs
Speaker 1: or something like that, because I can't just sit seven, eight, ten,
Speaker 1: twelve hours in front of the TV. And starting off
Speaker 1: with the Lions. The Cowboys over the years, the last
Speaker 1: twenty years or so, they've been the team that's been
Speaker 1: in it. In contention, they're not in the playoffs every year,
Speaker 1: but uh, it seemed like that was a marquee matchup
Speaker 1: for a while, but the NFL went to the expansion
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, where now they have three games. So they're
Speaker 1: hoping this week that the Pittsburgh Steelers are undefeated, we'll
Speaker 1: get that game off against the Baltimore Ravens. The team
Speaker 1: was gonna be desperate right now it's six and four.
Speaker 1: But I always that was big when they added that
Speaker 1: third game. But I do think, uh, it's cool to
Speaker 1: be part of that. From a National Football League perspective,
Speaker 1: is that, hey, you are you know that everybody in
Speaker 1: the nation is huddling around the Davy. Everybody's together and
Speaker 1: participating in the holiday by not only eating but also
Speaker 1: watching some ball. Do you like the last question we'll
Speaker 1: do on this Thanksgiving bit? Do you like the Cowboys
Speaker 1: old helmets that they wear, the old uniforms that they
Speaker 1: were on Thanksgiving. I I do like the Cowboys uniforms overall,
Speaker 1: so when they bring those out, I'm okay with them.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys just have a traditional, classic look
Speaker 1: and it's one of the better uniforms in the league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with what you said. So now let's talk
Speaker 1: about Jets football. The Jets do not play on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: Of course, they host the Miami Dolphins Sunday, Week twelve.
Speaker 1: Coming off of for the Dolphins, they're first lost in
Speaker 1: a lot of games, like five games in a row.
Speaker 1: They fell to the Denver Broncos in Denver, and the
Speaker 1: Jets played on the West Coast for the first of
Speaker 1: three cross country games. Now they're back at MetLife Stadium
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and I think that Jets fans are getting
Speaker 1: excited because you start to see what this offense could
Speaker 1: have looked like. I know that's probably the wrong way
Speaker 1: to think about it, but when you think of the
Speaker 1: production of Rashad Perriman and Denzel Mims in particular, and
Speaker 1: of course is having a healthy receiving corps, I mean,
Speaker 1: you start to see this offense turn a page. The
Speaker 1: past two games they've been on the field, well, they're
Speaker 1: scoring points. They've been in ball games the last two outings.
Speaker 1: You know, the Patriots, they're not the Patriots team that
Speaker 1: we've come to expect over the last two decades. There's
Speaker 1: four and six at this point, and you'd have to
Speaker 1: say it would really take something that somewhat improbable for
Speaker 1: them to make the playoffs like some kind of crazy
Speaker 1: run because you're looking at the a f C. There
Speaker 1: might be a team out there wins ten games this
Speaker 1: year does not get into the playoffs. That's how deep
Speaker 1: it looks. And then the Chargers, while they do have
Speaker 1: a very talented young quarterback in Justin Herbert who had
Speaker 1: his way with the Jets secondary in that first half,
Speaker 1: that is a team that is struggle throughout the season.
Speaker 1: So one possession losses to both of those squads, you're
Speaker 1: stepping up in caliber this week against the Dolphins. I
Speaker 1: don't know if a lot of people consider Miami head
Speaker 1: of schedule, but you have to give Brian Floors a
Speaker 1: lot of credit for what they've done there. Remember last
Speaker 1: was it October? The Jets went down to South Florida
Speaker 1: and both of those teams were zero Well, the Jets
Speaker 1: had one win, the Dolphins were zero seven. The Dolphins
Speaker 1: won that game, and ever since then, I think they've
Speaker 1: turned the corner and made a lot offseason of dishes additions. Um,
Speaker 1: you're seeing a defense that gets after people very deep
Speaker 1: at cornerback position of working in a rookie quarterback right
Speaker 1: now experiencing those ups and downs. But um, yeah, You're
Speaker 1: right about the Jets playing a better brand of football.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Defensively, they're stopping the run.
Speaker 1: We just gotta get better against the past. And then offensively,
Speaker 1: you're seeing signs of life in the passing game and
Speaker 1: had just definitely been encouraging Denzel Mimm's career high seventy
Speaker 1: one yards receiving Perriman now three touchdowns over the course
Speaker 1: of the last two games. I like what I saw
Speaker 1: to Chris Herndon. I know he just made two catches,
Speaker 1: but both of those catches were very impressive. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Chris Hernon's I tried to Honestly, I tried to
Speaker 1: bate him into and more of my postgame interviews with him,
Speaker 1: or the only one should I say what I said.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just kind of like a weight off
Speaker 1: your shoulder now that you've gotten your first touchdown of
Speaker 1: the season. After training camp, everyone was expecting Chris Hernon
Speaker 1: to be like the two thousand and eighteen form of
Speaker 1: Chris Hernon, where he showed a lot of promise as
Speaker 1: a fourth round rookie out of Miami, and he hasn't
Speaker 1: been targeted a lot in the passing game and Dwal Loggins,
Speaker 1: the team's offensive coordinator, last week, said that Chris Hernon
Speaker 1: has been primarily past protecting because he's really good at it.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of tight ends can do what Chris
Speaker 1: Hernon can do in that aspect of the game, and
Speaker 1: so so to see him finally take a couple steps
Speaker 1: forward in the passing game, I think Jets fans got excited.
Speaker 1: I know certainly for me, I felt happy for Chris
Speaker 1: Herndon and using these two games as a launching pad
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season, I think really the
Speaker 1: first thought that comes to fans minds is, well, what's
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's gonna look like fully healthy with powerman crowder
Speaker 1: Man's Hernon all in the lineup? Because Donald has yet
Speaker 1: to play with those three starting receivers all on the
Speaker 1: field together. Well, that's that's the critical question, that's the
Speaker 1: sixty four million dollar questions for the New York Jets,
Speaker 1: is that when Well Donald get back on the field.
Speaker 1: I know he wants to return, The Jets want to
Speaker 1: back under center. You want to evaluate this young player
Speaker 1: with a full complement of skill position players around him,
Speaker 1: but you can't force him back in the lineup and
Speaker 1: the Jets are taking the prudent approach here with Donald.
Speaker 1: It's early this week, we're taping on Monday. We'll have
Speaker 1: to see what transpires throughout the course of this week.
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco started against the Dolphins earlier this season at Miami.
Speaker 1: Won that game twenty four to nothing. It was a shutout.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about a different looking offense. No matter
Speaker 1: who plays quarterback, they're just gonna have opportunities to make
Speaker 1: plays because much like the Patriots, even though the Dolphins
Speaker 1: definitely have more talent at the cornerback position, especially considering
Speaker 1: what Stuffan Gilmore's out no no shade towards New England.
Speaker 1: I'm saying when he got Byron Jones exaving Howard, going
Speaker 1: Howard now six interceptions, those guys are gonna play man
Speaker 1: coverage and they're gonna they're gonna blitz the quarterback. So
Speaker 1: the Jets have to make plays down the field, and
Speaker 1: you would anticipate they do have the ability to do that.
Speaker 1: They will be better equipped to do that than they
Speaker 1: were in the team's first meeting. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: great challenge. So I definitely agree, and I think that
Speaker 1: maybe to your point, if Byron Jones exaving Howard on
Speaker 1: the outside. Maybe this is a Jamison crowd or Chris
Speaker 1: Hernon game in terms of at least opportunities, because if
Speaker 1: they can work the middle of the field, maybe that
Speaker 1: will open up things more so for Perman and Men's
Speaker 1: Byron Jones and Xaviing Howard are two great players. And
Speaker 1: this I kind of wanted to go a little more
Speaker 1: broad here in terms of the way the NFL is
Speaker 1: shaping up right now. First of all, very weird Sunday,
Speaker 1: very weird Sunday in terms of who won, who lost.
Speaker 1: And now when you look at the standings in both divisions,
Speaker 1: you look at who's in and who's out. If the
Speaker 1: playoffs were today or tomorrow, the Baltimore Ravens would not
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs at six and four. Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: would not be in the playoffs at six and four.
Speaker 1: Then you head to the NFC. Chicago's the first team
Speaker 1: out at five and five. But both divisions are gonna
Speaker 1: come down to the wire. A lot of parody in
Speaker 1: the National Football League. You know, we were watching the
Speaker 1: early games yesterday and it seems like every week we're
Speaker 1: we're looking at more and more games than saying their
Speaker 1: toss ups. But you mentioned Miami. They just had a
Speaker 1: five game win streak. They lose a game, and now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden are out of playoff positioning through
Speaker 1: ten games. Uh, you got the Cleveland Browns right now
Speaker 1: quietly are seven and three. It feels like half the
Speaker 1: teams in the a f C are seven and three
Speaker 1: right now. Um. You know, I think the Bills took
Speaker 1: a step forward in the FC East by not playing
Speaker 1: because everybody else lost, right you know, the Patriots lost,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins had their windstreak halted, and the Bills have
Speaker 1: already beaten the Miami Dolphins and they host them, I
Speaker 1: think in the the last game of the season. So
Speaker 1: you would have to say Buffalo definitely has the advantage
Speaker 1: moving forward inside the division. Pittsburgh still undefeated, which is crazy,
Speaker 1: the very good team. Um, I didn't anticipate they're gonna
Speaker 1: be sitting here after ten games being undefeated. You mentioned Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was the m v P in the National
Speaker 1: Football League last year and now they're six and four.
Speaker 1: Kind of see in Indianapolis, that's an interesting race. In
Speaker 1: the FC South, Bolt teams are seven and three. They're
Speaker 1: facing each other this weekend. I'm excited for that game.
Speaker 1: A f C West loaded because Kansas City, Yes, just
Speaker 1: one win, Patrick Mahomes is magic against the Raiders. You
Speaker 1: mean one loss, Yeah, one win, one glorious winn and
Speaker 1: go over the Raiders. I guess said Patrick Mahomes was
Speaker 1: his magic. So they just had the one loss. The
Speaker 1: Raiders look good and there's six and four and they
Speaker 1: want to get in a playoff. Pitcher that's the team
Speaker 1: was one toe to toe with the Chiefs here a
Speaker 1: couple of times this season. I say loaded the FC
Speaker 1: West because Herbert and the Chargers had the explosive offense.
Speaker 1: And I know there are not in a playoff position positioning,
Speaker 1: but that's a team you gotta watch for in future years.
Speaker 1: And Denver's tough. They just beat Miami, So a lot
Speaker 1: of perry in the league. But in the FC I
Speaker 1: think you gotta look at Kansas City and then go
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh and then everyone else is kind of in
Speaker 1: a group after that. Okay, so before we hear from
Speaker 1: Bart Scott as we I don't want to eject what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen here over the course of the next seven
Speaker 1: weeks in terms of the NFL. I mean, you laid
Speaker 1: out all the different divisions and the tight races there,
Speaker 1: but is there a race in particular that intrigues you?
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say excluding the NFC West, which has
Speaker 1: the Seahawks the Rands. Yeah, I did, because I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like a lot of people have given
Speaker 1: proper credit to that division because that's such a tight race.
Speaker 1: And we saw that great game between the Seahawks and
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, not once but twice. Who's gonna win the
Speaker 1: NFC East, I'll ask you that. Well, I did say
Speaker 1: I didn't want to project anything. I mean right now
Speaker 1: as it stands, Okay, I'm not gonna what do you
Speaker 1: make of the NFC East right now? I think it's
Speaker 1: very interesting. I mean, I think I think the division
Speaker 1: is there's there's meaning all four of them, really three
Speaker 1: of them. I really think it's gonna be the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, and the New York Giants. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's gonna come down of those three teams, not
Speaker 1: the Washington football team. No, no disrespect to them, but
Speaker 1: I feel like if Andy Dalton can turn things around
Speaker 1: for that offense, which you kind of saw against the Vikings.
Speaker 1: If they can sustain that, I figured that they'll squeak
Speaker 1: out enough wins, especially in their own division, to clinch
Speaker 1: a playoffs. That's a great question. I'm going no more
Speaker 1: than six. I'm going, so somebody's gonna host a playoff
Speaker 1: game and the NFC that finishes with six wins this year?
Speaker 1: Do you think that's crazy? No, I don't think it's. Well,
Speaker 1: were the weren't the Seahawks seven and nine when they
Speaker 1: hosted the Saints the Marshawn Lynch the Beast Mode Game.
Speaker 1: I mean, that wouldn't surprise me if it was, if
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys hosted a team. I think the a
Speaker 1: f C seems a little bit more. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say easy to predict, but it seems like, like
Speaker 1: I said, I think the Bills are gonna win the FCS.
Speaker 1: I think Pittsburgh's gonna take care of the North. I
Speaker 1: think that Indianapolis and Tennessee is something that's called caught
Speaker 1: my high Kansas City is gonna win the West, you know.
Speaker 1: And then it's like, how is the wild cards shake out?
Speaker 1: But as far as divisional races, as you could say
Speaker 1: wild card race, you can instead of saying division you
Speaker 1: could just you could just pick a couple of teams
Speaker 1: that you're looking at in terms of the wild cards. Well,
Speaker 1: I look at Indianapolis and Tennessee. In Indianapolis want to
Speaker 1: Nashville a couple of weeks ago, home one, an oppressive
Speaker 1: game on Thursday Night Football. What's gonna happen? And the
Speaker 1: return matchup? But who's gonna make the playoffs from this bunch? Miami,
Speaker 1: the Raiders, Baltimore, the Browns, and the Browns. Yeah, who
Speaker 1: you got in the playoffs? I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's very I don't know the
Speaker 1: team's schedules, which I think has a big part to
Speaker 1: do with this, But I'm very interested. I think I
Speaker 1: think the one thing that Tennessee has over a lot
Speaker 1: of these teams is just their brand of football travels well,
Speaker 1: first of all, and second of all, that they made
Speaker 1: to the championship game last year, so they know what
Speaker 1: it takes to get there. And I thought that was
Speaker 1: very convincing win, a very important win over the Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens in Baltimore. And side note, I love A J. Brown.
Speaker 1: I love I love the physicality he plays with speaking
Speaker 1: of physicality about Derrick Henry. I mean, you can't say
Speaker 1: enough about about Derrick Henry. He's an animal. That whole
Speaker 1: team is just physical. Their d n A is that
Speaker 1: of their head coach, Mike Rabel. So you know they
Speaker 1: play a brand of football. They're gonna be it at
Speaker 1: in a phone booth for sixty minutes and they bring it.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta respect that. With that being said,
Speaker 1: we think about the Colts all the time. This is
Speaker 1: like the soft team that's gonna spread you out, They're
Speaker 1: gonna play fast and all this others. No, this is
Speaker 1: a team and gets after you who plays a physical
Speaker 1: brand of football. And that was an impressive comeback win
Speaker 1: over the Packers, and that came on the heels of
Speaker 1: beating Tennessee a couple of weeks ago. So now what
Speaker 1: is going to happen? Because Indianapolis can really take that
Speaker 1: division and put a stranglehold around it if they win
Speaker 1: this return matchup very much though, And I think if
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor starts to use his performance against the Packers
Speaker 1: in terms of the way he ran the football and
Speaker 1: can kind of turn that rookie wall and kind of
Speaker 1: like barrel through it and he's you know, he's a
Speaker 1: big dude with four or three speed, four four speed.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be an interesting team down the road. So
Speaker 1: what I'll tell you right now, though, Patrick Mahomes League MVP.
Speaker 1: I would have said a few weeks ago, Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: But I think it would be hard to choose anybody
Speaker 1: other than the Homes. He's been just outstanding that team
Speaker 1: as a defending champions. Uh, Pittsburgh gonna be right there
Speaker 1: in the mix. But if you're gonna ask me Super
Speaker 1: Bowl pick right now, you'd have to go. I go
Speaker 1: Kansas City and a slight lean to New Orleans. But
Speaker 1: Seattle's gaining. Oh so you think that it's between those
Speaker 1: two teams in the end. Oh No, I just think
Speaker 1: those would be my two favorites. Now, I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that. Are you looking at me like I
Speaker 1: have to pick mine? I definitely think Kansas City. I
Speaker 1: think that. I think for me, they're they're gonna represent
Speaker 1: the a f C in terms of the NFC. I
Speaker 1: tend to I tend to agree with you. I think
Speaker 1: because here's the thing about the Saints. They're playing is
Speaker 1: well defensively, is probably anybody in the league right now
Speaker 1: over the last few weeks for sure. And they did
Speaker 1: the same thing last season when Teddy Bridgewater came in
Speaker 1: for Drew Brees. But it just feels like in the
Speaker 1: past couple of years something just doesn't click in the
Speaker 1: playoffs for the Saints. And if they can clear that hurdle,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Michael Thomas starts burning up like he
Speaker 1: did last year, then I think that's gonna be a
Speaker 1: legitimate case. But so there's only remember first round the playoffs,
Speaker 1: only one team gets a by this year, that's the
Speaker 1: number one seed, so that you gotta put more emphasis
Speaker 1: on being that one seed. And Pittsburgh keeps on winning
Speaker 1: no matter how good Kansas City is or Mahomes, They're
Speaker 1: not gonna be then one sleep. You know what I wonder,
Speaker 1: I don't I think if if the playoffs were tomorrow,
Speaker 1: would this be the first time that Tom Brady entered
Speaker 1: the playoffs as a wild card team? It has to be, right,
Speaker 1: because they missed the playoffs and he was out, and
Speaker 1: then before that it was he just wasn't the quarterback
Speaker 1: of the team, right, Yeah, But they won the division
Speaker 1: seventeen no less, nineteen years no two thousand two Jets,
Speaker 1: but the Patriots did. The Patriots make the playoffs that year,
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs, so then this would be That's
Speaker 1: won the division in two thousand two. But and then
Speaker 1: the Patriots didn't make it as a wild car team,
Speaker 1: they did not make it as well. This would in
Speaker 1: turn the first time that Tom Brady would enter the
Speaker 1: playoffs as a wild car team and it would have
Speaker 1: to go through not his home stadium. That's right. I
Speaker 1: was just getting caught up with my memories Hermo, which
Speaker 1: you played to win the game that Jets started to
Speaker 1: buy that year and they went out to San Diego
Speaker 1: and the Superchargers quarterback by Drew Brees. Wow, look that's
Speaker 1: where the start, That's where the turnaround started. Oh but
Speaker 1: that's how we come full circle here on the Official
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Speaker 1: Jets host the Dolphins in Week twelve, the first time
Speaker 1: they'll see to a tongue of baloa as a starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: What's your matchup to watch um to a tongue of
Speaker 1: balo I'll tell you what I'm most excited to see it. Like,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of matchups that you can go with,
Speaker 1: but I'm really intrigued and interesting to see how Bryce
Speaker 1: Hall continues to develop. Listen, I love the way that
Speaker 1: he competes. I love that he said the edge forcefully
Speaker 1: in the run game. I like that he's, you know,
Speaker 1: willing to go out there and not just bell out
Speaker 1: of there. A couple of times he bailed too early
Speaker 1: on some blitzes, but for the most part he was
Speaker 1: right there. And you know, he went against a tough
Speaker 1: ride receivering corps. I want to see if he can
Speaker 1: maybe trying to slow down DeVante Parker and see what
Speaker 1: that's like. Now he you know, they have a different receiver.
Speaker 1: You think about Keenan Allen and think about Williams and
Speaker 1: what they bring. Now he's gonna go with a taller
Speaker 1: six fire receiver that has a huge catch radius and
Speaker 1: that can play the game vertically, and let's see if
Speaker 1: he can compete. Let's see what he's got. Do you
Speaker 1: want the Jets playing more zone or more man against
Speaker 1: these big receivers. Part, but you have to mix it
Speaker 1: up because if you just play zone and you get predictable,
Speaker 1: they'll just start sitting those zones. I think one of
Speaker 1: the you know, the biggest mistakes of that game was
Speaker 1: the fact that they played Red two in the middle
Speaker 1: of the field. You know, that was a defense that's
Speaker 1: usually for the red zone. We call it red two.
Speaker 1: But I would say for people that don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about because I maybe speaking Chinese, because everybody
Speaker 1: calls it something different, it's when you have Hewitt close
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field and turned to a
Speaker 1: former Cover three. But they recognize it and we're able
Speaker 1: to get a receiver up the scene and for a
Speaker 1: huge touchdown play. And you know, that's something that you
Speaker 1: you don't really want to see because when you become
Speaker 1: predictable like that, people are gonna have plans for things
Speaker 1: that you do that. Well, you're going against Greg Williams defense,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a red tube beater and you're gonna
Speaker 1: definitely have a cover zero beater because you know it's coming.
Speaker 1: So I think, if we're gonna do that, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna play that, you know, because every team and every
Speaker 1: coordinator is different. If I'm gonna play that, I need
Speaker 1: Hugh to make sure that he stays that linebacker depth,
Speaker 1: because when he gets that seven yards deep, he sends
Speaker 1: a text message to the entire team, the entire stadium
Speaker 1: that that's the coverage that they're in. I'm going to
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball and going on the outside.
Speaker 1: I'll take Brashotte, Perryman and Denzel Mims against those very
Speaker 1: impressive Dolphins cornerbacks. Remember the last time the Jets saw
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, they were shut out down in South Florida,
Speaker 1: So hoping for a different result this weekend. You see
Speaker 1: Denzel Mims three catches seventy one yards. He drew a
Speaker 1: pair of penalties against the Chargers. Uh. Brashotte Perryman has
Speaker 1: been in the ends on three times the last two games.
Speaker 1: But bart these Dolphins cornerbacks, This tandem Byron Jones Xavier Howard.
Speaker 1: Howard now has six interceptions tied from the NFL lead.
Speaker 1: We know they like to play a lot of man
Speaker 1: coverage on the outside and the Dolphins will bring a
Speaker 1: lot of blitzes at whoever is playing quarterback for the Jets.
Speaker 1: Where would you rank these Dolphins corners? I mean, I
Speaker 1: think I think they're right up there. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think that the best. You know Trio or you know
Speaker 1: pair of Corners with his eyes in Baltimore and Humphries
Speaker 1: and Marcus Peters. But you can say Xavier and Byron
Speaker 1: Jones are right there. You know, one A and one
Speaker 1: b um, you know, but you know understanding that that's
Speaker 1: what they're gonna get. I think the Jets would be
Speaker 1: better prepared for that because whenever you have guys that
Speaker 1: are able to get their hands on you have to
Speaker 1: minutes ball skills. All you have to do is do
Speaker 1: what most teams do to the ravens and to the
Speaker 1: other you know, cover one man and man covers. You
Speaker 1: run a lot of crossing robs, rubber rolphs, make them
Speaker 1: fight through traffic and make them have to communicate with
Speaker 1: each other by making cut splits and and maybe putting
Speaker 1: man Hims and putting Paimian on the same exact side
Speaker 1: and having a backside that that consists of Herndon and
Speaker 1: and maybe Crowder as well. So bunch routes a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of crossing routes where you can mess
Speaker 1: up the traffic. Even maybe consider putting the receiver in
Speaker 1: the backfield. Because what happens is and I remember like
Speaker 1: yesterday when they used to do that. Bill Belichick used
Speaker 1: to do that when we we had Reevers, they brought
Speaker 1: He brought Reeves into the box into the world that
Speaker 1: he has nothing no idea about by putting west Walker
Speaker 1: in the backfield and running his routes from the backfield
Speaker 1: just like running out the slot. So maybe you to
Speaker 1: bring Crowder and you bring Crowder into the backfield, which
Speaker 1: brings a d dB there and forced him to communicate
Speaker 1: a lot of blown coverages that way. So ethan, where
Speaker 1: you gone? Because I like what Bart just said. Chris
Speaker 1: Hernon had a couple of catches he got in the
Speaker 1: end zone, so that was an encouraging sign for the
Speaker 1: New York Jets and Jamison Crowder Adam Gates said he
Speaker 1: probably should have had fifteen catches in the first half
Speaker 1: against the Chargers. You know, I think this is a
Speaker 1: common phrase in the NFL that just at the NFL
Speaker 1: is a copycat league. And when you look at what
Speaker 1: the Broncos did against the Dolphins, looked at the amount
Speaker 1: of times that to a tongue of valoo was sacked.
Speaker 1: My matchup to watch is the Jets defensive line against
Speaker 1: the Dolphins offensive line. That Dolphins old line has a
Speaker 1: couple of rookies up front, like Solomon Kinley and Robert Hunt.
Speaker 1: Austin Jackson was the first round pick earlier this past April,
Speaker 1: and if the Jets are able to get to to ah,
Speaker 1: maybe that'll rattle him a little bit. And Bart, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask you for a quarterback to be one a
Speaker 1: rookie and to receive pressure the way that the Jets
Speaker 1: give it, which is typically up the middle. The strength
Speaker 1: of that defensive line. How much can that disrupt a
Speaker 1: young quarterback's rhythm on the road his first time starting
Speaker 1: against the Jets. Well, I think it's you know, when
Speaker 1: you stay on a roll, you gotta You'll say that
Speaker 1: with an asterisk, because you don't have the things that
Speaker 1: you have to deal with traditionally, with with no fans
Speaker 1: in the stands, no no doing down in Miami, it's
Speaker 1: a little different, you know, silent council of just being
Speaker 1: able to have to communicate and have non Verbero communication
Speaker 1: was an advantage. The Jets won't have that advantage. So
Speaker 1: now you just have to play with the rookies eyes
Speaker 1: and make them see things that actually don't exist. And
Speaker 1: you want to get to him. Anytime you can get
Speaker 1: to anybody six times, you start putting them on the ground.
Speaker 1: Your tool is not a big guy. You start leaning
Speaker 1: on them. Now is starting to become a profile on them,
Speaker 1: starting to be a book as Tennessee's the personnel groups
Speaker 1: and where they operate with the league is starting to
Speaker 1: catch up. And you know, Denver was just the first
Speaker 1: team to kind of put a put a blueprint out
Speaker 1: there on how to make his day and his life
Speaker 1: difficult and understanding what you're gonna get. You've seen his
Speaker 1: defense before. It gives your advantage to maybe make some adjustments,
Speaker 1: but also seeing how you can maybe take advantage of
Speaker 1: this offensive line that is young and may struggle having
Speaker 1: to communicate. But on the back end, you're gonna need
Speaker 1: these corners to to to lock up and you have
Speaker 1: to do that. You have to put them on the island.
Speaker 1: And are you willing to do that? That's that's that's
Speaker 1: the issue. So you want to try and make sure
Speaker 1: that you do safe. You know, pressures not going all out,
Speaker 1: not cover zeros, but you know where you can overload
Speaker 1: a side and be able to get somebody home free
Speaker 1: without selling the farm and its imperative this week, you
Speaker 1: York Jets get off to a good start, There's no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. And it would be interesting if you
Speaker 1: get the rookie quarterback in a position where, hey, maybe
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are trailing in the third quarter and he's
Speaker 1: looking over his shoulder at Ryan Fitzpatrick. I think it'll
Speaker 1: be very interesting to see what happens, especially when you
Speaker 1: consider that Fitzpatrick came in relief this pass game for
Speaker 1: to uh. And before we wrap up here, bart on
Speaker 1: a lighter note, just what's your favorite part of Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: specifically perhaps your favorite dish. Well, for me, it's my
Speaker 1: it's a it's a toss up for me. Um. My
Speaker 1: wife makes some things um that I really enjoy and
Speaker 1: I kind of only indulged in them once once a year.
Speaker 1: If she makes a safe dressing, I don't know. It
Speaker 1: depends on where you're from. Some people say dressing, some
Speaker 1: people say stuffing. We call it dressing. You know. I
Speaker 1: like it when you push the sage saucags in there,
Speaker 1: so it's like you're eating bread, but you also get
Speaker 1: a nice chew of some nice sage savory sausage inside
Speaker 1: of that thing as well. But also she has the
Speaker 1: macaroni and chiefs with probably seventy different cheeses, um eferporated
Speaker 1: milk egg and when you look at it may only
Speaker 1: be this big, but it weighs probably about seventy five pounds.
Speaker 1: That's how I like it. And the last word on that,
Speaker 1: that stuff in that dressing sounds fantastic. Tell us what
Speaker 1: you feel about sweet potato? Uh, sweet potato pie eaten
Speaker 1: over here? Does not like sweep but he must have
Speaker 1: to have patty pies because if you get a nice,
Speaker 1: good sweet potato pie, it's like it's like a slice
Speaker 1: of heaven. You put a little whipped cream on it.
Speaker 1: Maybe get it, get it, get get some nice coke, cold,
Speaker 1: some hot chocolate. You gotta do it right, man. You
Speaker 1: gotta make sure that it has the nutmeg and it
Speaker 1: cent him in blend maybe a little brown sugar, and
Speaker 1: make sure you take all the strings out. And I'm
Speaker 1: saying it's not that he doesn't like pump that he
Speaker 1: doesn't like sweepotated pie, is that he hasn't had a
Speaker 1: good piece of sweeping taded pot What the hell are
Speaker 1: you buy your pie? Okay, well, I'm warming up to
Speaker 1: it now. You know. I'm a big fan of everything,
Speaker 1: Bart said that I didn't necessarily all of the piots outline.
Speaker 1: Big Man Whipped Cream sent a minute. I gotta get
Speaker 1: nut made, nutmeg Man. Nutmeg is the secret and INGREDI.
Speaker 1: And that is how we wrap up this edition of
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Speaker 1: in your sweet potato pot.