WEBVTT - EJ & Cookie Johnson: Daring To Be Different

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<v Speaker 1>on Apple Podcasts. Yes, yes, I'm loving bines. Where's your mama? Alright?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? It's been a long time, Yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>has for any of us looking for the courage to

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<v Speaker 1>live our lives as we choose. Well, hey man, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the show for us. Our family has known basketball

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<v Speaker 1>legend Magic Johnson and his amazing wife Cookie for over

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years. The Johnson's were faced with the choice embraced

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<v Speaker 1>their vibrant son e J, who is boldly pushing boundaries

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<v Speaker 1>with very provocative and daring choices, or to try to

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<v Speaker 1>push him to be something that he's not. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>in and go sit at the table. That color is

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<v Speaker 1>that a polish or is that like it's a powder?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a powder? Okay, because you need to get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Cookie and e J here with us today, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy to have you here. Yeah, real talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super excited for so many reasons. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>have so much to talk about and I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about raising children outside of what is considered

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<v Speaker 1>the norm because it's challenging. First of all, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you define gender fluidity in your eyes? I guess you're

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<v Speaker 1>just in your floating in the spectrum. You're not really

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<v Speaker 1>defined by any gender confines, if you will. I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's fluid because this movie it's fluid. It's nebulous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like Willow's word of the day, nebulous. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that word. Yes, it's really just I'm just e gyant. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>People come up to me all the time and be like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you just be normal? And I'm like, now

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<v Speaker 1>where you are that trips them out, That's like whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>That's like that's crazy that you know what is normal

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<v Speaker 1>for you in your natural state? Do that. I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the only times when it gets a little

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<v Speaker 1>weird is like, okay, what's your bathroom? Like yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's like sometimes I'll be like in the like

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<v Speaker 1>a skirt and like a look like I'm doing the

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<v Speaker 1>most and I'm like in the men's room and everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>like and I'm like, now they're starting to do like

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<v Speaker 1>male and female bathrooms, like and I feel like even

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<v Speaker 1>like the high end restaurants like made it like a

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<v Speaker 1>chic thing to just be like, oh, like there's no

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<v Speaker 1>labels go you know, like in the individual stalls or

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<v Speaker 1>like UNI they have like the men's the women like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That works for me. With that, that works for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I love being able to sit here with the two

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<v Speaker 1>of you because both of you have such courage and

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<v Speaker 1>have been so brave. Two do you and be you? Yes? Cookie?

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<v Speaker 1>What has it been like for you as a mom?

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<v Speaker 1>As a mom, well, you know, it wasn't easy. We're

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<v Speaker 1>from the Midwest. You know, everything is you know, straight laced.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it first came about, I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do about it. I didn't know because I noticed three,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you because he's that's when he started wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to put on the princess costumes at school, even at home,

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<v Speaker 1>like he would come in my closet, want to put

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<v Speaker 1>on my shoes, or my mom had these really full

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<v Speaker 1>skirts and he would like twirl around he would want

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<v Speaker 1>to put and then he would put them on and

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<v Speaker 1>swirl around and then But you know, you always thought, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's a phase. So you think, oh, this is a phase.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he'll outgrow it. I won't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we five years old, we put him in sports

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<v Speaker 1>and instead of catching the ball, he's in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the field picking flowers and he runs up to him, Mommy,

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<v Speaker 1>look what I found for you? You know, right? Was

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<v Speaker 1>there ever a time in your life that you did

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<v Speaker 1>conform that you did play like a sport basketball, baseball?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I tried, but it just didn't click after that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I started acting and doing theater. Like when

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<v Speaker 1>I was fifteen, me and my friend who who's also gay,

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<v Speaker 1>but we you know, had just come out to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>so we thought that was a big deal. That's real

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<v Speaker 1>talk the courage of that. We went to Hawaii once

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sitting behind him and his friend. You know

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<v Speaker 1>how the girls go buy in the bathing suits and

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<v Speaker 1>the guys go by. So when the guys went by,

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, oh, you know, like and nothing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to have a talk. And the talk wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be this? The talk was do you think

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<v Speaker 1>you are? And I said, before you answer that, thought

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<v Speaker 1>know that if you are, I'm okay with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>so he answered and he said, yes, I think I am,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, well, okay, you know, we will

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<v Speaker 1>love you and support me no matter what. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what makes him happy. Let him be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>But at that time, you can be happy in your room,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't let that see you. So it was all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. How was the journey for your father? My

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<v Speaker 1>husband is a kind of person like he reacts quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>so everything that came to the top of his head,

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<v Speaker 1>he just let it out. Your father been magic Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>and icon, one of the most famous athletes in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>How was the journey for your father? When was it

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<v Speaker 1>okay for him to play with dolls or to wear

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<v Speaker 1>the dresses in the hut? To be long time? We

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<v Speaker 1>had to talk with dad and that was a little tough.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was a little tough. My husband is

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of person like he reacts quickly, so everything

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<v Speaker 1>that came to the top of his hand, he just

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<v Speaker 1>let it out. And I was like, because it hurt

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<v Speaker 1>my feelings, and I know what party heard his feelings

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<v Speaker 1>when he was in You know, it's not what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted for my son. And do you realize what you're saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know the world is not gonna like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to live this life. So afterwards, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I told him, I saying I thought that was a

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<v Speaker 1>little tough, you know, you know, that wasn't right, and

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't say anything. And then next day, the very

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<v Speaker 1>next day, he went to your room, you tell it

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<v Speaker 1>and just was like, we're going to get through this,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I just need time, and then um,

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<v Speaker 1>we both just kind of started crying a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, but then I moved to New York to

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<v Speaker 1>go to college, and when he came back to visit,

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<v Speaker 1>he picked me up for dinner and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I have your here where we love you.

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<v Speaker 1>I went, you know, I'm just like whenever I hug

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<v Speaker 1>your dad and whatever. But he hugged me so hard

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<v Speaker 1>he almost like broke my back. And at that point

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, we're gonna be okay, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because like I could really feel the love. And then

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<v Speaker 1>at that point I was like, you know what, We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be fine. Yeah, it's tough because I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to manage the husband and musically it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be okay. It's gonna be okay, and then managed the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm figuring it out. You know, and at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time managing yourself and then not losing yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in it and then at the same time having to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the world. Right when Jaden God asked to

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<v Speaker 1>do the women's campaign for Louis Vuitton, this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>gender fluid fashion, you know, Will called me be will Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>Will Smith and you know what I mean. And he's like, nope, this,

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<v Speaker 1>my son is not supposed to be in Louis Vuitton

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<v Speaker 1>ad wearing skirts that is not no no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>hold up, is this a good idea? And I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, will It's what he wants. This is

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<v Speaker 1>this is his expression. And he said, okay, okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was tight. It was tight, you know, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was a crane. It was uncomfortable because you know, as dad,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, expect macho macho, you know. Yeah. He told

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<v Speaker 1>me he didn't want me to cut my hair. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want Willow to shave her head. Do it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like all your femininity, as if my femininity was like

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<v Speaker 1>in my hair. Yeah, you know you've been rocking short

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<v Speaker 1>hair well yeah, short hair, short yeah. But Willow was nine,

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<v Speaker 1>so he was like, you know what I mean, a

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<v Speaker 1>little girl little girls, like you know, it's his little girl,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want you to stay a little girl as

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<v Speaker 1>long as I can. They want you in a place

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<v Speaker 1>of where they can protect you. That's what I really

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<v Speaker 1>learned from Will. And they think about what the world thinks,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what he you know, his dad kept telling

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<v Speaker 1>him there's just so much judgment in the world. Just

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<v Speaker 1>begets itself. It's like insecurity, then begets You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell someone what they're doing wrong based on what you

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<v Speaker 1>think you're doing wrong, and then it's just a cycle

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<v Speaker 1>of and then you can never cycle. Yeah, e J,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about your fashion for a second, because I

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell you you've got some fierce fashion. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you right now. Your face is be Honestly, I would

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<v Speaker 1>always repost your outfit photos, your amazing style, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would constantly just be like, wow, I wish that I

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<v Speaker 1>could even like dress myself like this. Well, I've always

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<v Speaker 1>let the clothes like speak to me. I've never been

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<v Speaker 1>confined by whether this was in the men's action of

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<v Speaker 1>the woman's action, Like if I feel that this should

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<v Speaker 1>be on my body, then it should be on my body.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always been a lot for people to come brehand.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it took a long time for her to

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<v Speaker 1>get used to it, but like, you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>always who I was, and it was just difficult because

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<v Speaker 1>of course your parents always want you to be normal,

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<v Speaker 1>so like no one makes fun of you, and like

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<v Speaker 1>we're in a protecting way of yeah, we always want

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<v Speaker 1>to prove right. But I think, you know, coming into adulthood,

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of like I'm here now and like

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody wants to make fun of me, like I

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<v Speaker 1>have to have my own back. And they prepared me

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<v Speaker 1>for that, you know, coming into the world, and yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really helped me, you know. So how did

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<v Speaker 1>they do that? How did your parents? How were they

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<v Speaker 1>able to help you be able to walk into the world,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the age of social media, because I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>was growing up social we didn't have social media likeness.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like they gave me a good dose of

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<v Speaker 1>nurturing and love but also reality. You know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they like, we love you, like whatever, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>live your life, but like you need to know that,

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<v Speaker 1>like not everybody is going to have that same love

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<v Speaker 1>and respect for you, and it's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>easy for some people. And you know, you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to understand that. And even like when you're coasting and

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<v Speaker 1>you think you're on top of the world, like there's

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<v Speaker 1>always one instance or one person that I have to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, right, you're that person, right, you are right.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you kind of get that dose on

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<v Speaker 1>if you're constantly on social media, especially, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>getting that that dose comes a little sooner when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you're looking at your phone and you're like, these

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<v Speaker 1>are what people are saying, Like this is for real.

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<v Speaker 1>People are just me. People are just me, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just have to really learn how to block it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Do you find that sometimes those are people

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<v Speaker 1>who are just upset that they haven't granted themselves their

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<v Speaker 1>own freedom, And it's like you don't get to do

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<v Speaker 1>that because I don't get to be myself. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I find that I get that a lot more in person,

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<v Speaker 1>even in people in the you know, greater gender community

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<v Speaker 1>or like whatever. It's like sometimes there's just just really

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<v Speaker 1>weird is staining, and it's just mostly because like you,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you can't be here. But like if

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<v Speaker 1>you just open up and and learn to let live

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<v Speaker 1>and let go, like we could be here. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like almost envy. It's always been so weird to me,

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<v Speaker 1>e J. The producers are telling me that you are

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<v Speaker 1>dating now? Is that I want to hear that I was?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I like totally leave her in the dog

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<v Speaker 1>about my love life. I'm not dating anybody in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>I am dating, like I go on dates. Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how has it been since it's you know, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>been a struggle. It's you know, there's so many factors.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, it's like the celebrity thing, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who are you here? For? You dating me? You're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to date my dad. These men either just want to

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<v Speaker 1>be there for one thing and then like don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to stay for the real relationship part. Or they just

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<v Speaker 1>want to ride the wave and b booge and bomb

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<v Speaker 1>and have their picture taken and do all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's so much going on, but hurt, hurt exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You both end up crying the corner, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't brought anyone special home to you. I have not,

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<v Speaker 1>because every time I would be ready to, something happens

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm like no, And I would never pre

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<v Speaker 1>expose you to somebody that I didn't like. Vet, you

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<v Speaker 1>know so hard, like the White House. I know, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever my parents are, it's like a sacred space for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And so do you ever feel like that person may

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<v Speaker 1>not be able to hold the importance of that space? Definitely?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the reason why this one's really

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<v Speaker 1>wise here. And I'm telling you like that just it's

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<v Speaker 1>just because that's a lot to carry. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>think about this, are you know even growing up, like

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<v Speaker 1>our friends were definitely all friends that you knew and

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<v Speaker 1>you pre approved of. It was like, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>would never let some crazy person, you know, even if

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh so and so is coming over

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<v Speaker 1>after school to do who that? Well, let me call

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<v Speaker 1>here and see you know what this type of person is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like that's the kind of thing like I

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<v Speaker 1>think about, Like I don't know our parents, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know that person right right, where's the phone book? Let

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<v Speaker 1>me call this person? Mob man? Like most of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>like absolutely not. I would never let you walk into

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<v Speaker 1>the sacred walls, sacred spaces. And like you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say, Cookie to have two fabulous children

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<v Speaker 1>that still care about what we think and appropriate. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what, man, I gave birth to a son

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't know. Yeah, I be there. Our generations,

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<v Speaker 1>we always it feels like we had to label things

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<v Speaker 1>to understand it. This is this, and that's it's how

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<v Speaker 1>we how we make sense. Because even when I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Willow and she said something like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not feminine or masculine. We don't really worry about

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<v Speaker 1>being a woman or a man. You know, every things changing.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is beautiful. But I must say it's taken

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<v Speaker 1>some getting used to, you know, because Jaden and Willow

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<v Speaker 1>have always been different. They were born that way. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a lot of people think that it came from

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<v Speaker 1>my rearing, but no, I just so happened that that's

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<v Speaker 1>how they came into the world. And I had to

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<v Speaker 1>get in order because I had to be open enough

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<v Speaker 1>to receive it. And because you have all of those

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<v Speaker 1>societal norms weighing on you, you know, me coming from

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore and coming from a very rugged like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where men were men and like weakness, you get hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>You like, yeah, there wasn't a whole lot of room

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<v Speaker 1>for all of that. Just wasn't room. I gave birth

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<v Speaker 1>to a son that I didn't know. M Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Jaden is so sweet. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I went through a process of oh my gosh, what

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful child, and then I went through I'm fearful

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<v Speaker 1>he'll go into the world, he's gonna get eaten up,

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<v Speaker 1>and then learning to have that trust in him. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that they got it right. The things that you

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<v Speaker 1>guys go through and are able to go through with that,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a attitude. It's just amazing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And it seems to be deepening with each generation because

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<v Speaker 1>I know even when I was coming up in what

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<v Speaker 1>you allowed me to do, when I was dyeing my

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<v Speaker 1>hair before the purples and blues and all that were

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<v Speaker 1>in you know what I'm saying, And I was an

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<v Speaker 1>art school kid that was considered a weirdough you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. And my mother was like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>I know I learned a lot having you guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here, because families, we're all trying to figure stuff out,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you all can be in the world

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<v Speaker 1>and be okay your own skin is such a wonderful thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, talking to both of you, it just

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<v Speaker 1>helps me have the courage to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more brave in my own journey. This is what I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to tell all parents out there. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a child, listen to them, talk to them,

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<v Speaker 1>let them be who they are, because eventually they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do that anyway, So you might as well just

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of it, you know, don't don't fight

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<v Speaker 1>it and then end up being the enemy. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>also your evolution as well, like you are evolving through

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<v Speaker 1>him each stage. And I do think you make such

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful point, Willow, and the idea that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we give life to our children, and we're told as

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<v Speaker 1>parents were here to guide them, and we're here to

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<v Speaker 1>teach them, and I think we often forget how much

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<v Speaker 1>our kids teach us. What a blessing. Yeah, I learned

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<v Speaker 1>a lot today on our next red Table talk one

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<v Speaker 1>of the funniest women out there, my girl Tiffany Hash.

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<v Speaker 1>When somebody asked me out on the day, I will

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<v Speaker 1>make some time. I was texting with Drake. He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we should hang out sometimes. I'm like, I could have

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<v Speaker 1>made a thousand dollars a day, but I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to see what that beat us bankings. You're not really

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<v Speaker 1>black as far as the rise, What has been the

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<v Speaker 1>best part when beyond my name from I made it facebooker,

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