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Speaker 2: What is going on? Everybody?

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Speaker 1: John Middlecock three and out podcast, How are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone is doing well, and uh, probably not as

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Speaker 1: well as JJ Spahn who just won the US Open.

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Speaker 1: JJ spawn at one hundred and twenty to one on

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Speaker 1: DraftKings before Thursday, and he took the first round lead,

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Speaker 1: was one hundred and twenty one to win. So one

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Speaker 1: of my big takeaways or takes coming into this tournament

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Speaker 1: was Cinderella's are dead. I believed it too, because the Xanders,

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Speaker 1: the Rory's, the Schefflers, the ROMs, the Brysons, they had

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Speaker 1: just taken over the majors for the last six or

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Speaker 1: seven majors, and honestly it hadn't even been that close.

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Speaker 1: And then JJ Spond one hundred and twenty to one

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Speaker 1: wins the US Open. Very very cool, awesome moment for

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Speaker 1: him on really on seventeen and eighteen. It's always cool

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Speaker 1: to see like the underdog bank some like eighty foot

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Speaker 1: putt and like how's he gonna celebrate and he's tugging

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Speaker 1: his caddy. So we'll dive into Jjspond. The course obviously

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Speaker 1: is a fascinating conversation because do we want chaos?

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Speaker 2: Do we want carnage.

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Speaker 1: I thought I did, and then as a consumer on

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Speaker 2: Of days, So I don't know. Is this doing it

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Speaker 1: Do I like some more birdies?

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Speaker 2: Do I like it?

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Speaker 1: This difficult, so we'll dive into that. We'll take some

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Speaker 1: of your questions as well at Golo pod is where

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Speaker 1: we do our golf podcast. I think we get some

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Speaker 1: questions about Rory McElroy and his I don't really know

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Speaker 1: what's going on with Rory, but kind of a bizarre

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Speaker 1: couple months after an incredibly hot start to the year

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Speaker 1: and finally winning the Masters, kind of going the other

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Speaker 1: way somehow. Scottis Scheffler still like finished, I think in

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Speaker 1: the top two at one point in times it's like

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Speaker 1: His floor is incredibly high, but he didn't and the

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Speaker 1: still photo of him at the end looked like he'd

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Speaker 1: had enough, like he'd just climbed Mount Everest. But you

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Speaker 1: think on our preview US Open pod, we did five

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Speaker 1: of the biggest stories that I thought coming into the weekend.

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Speaker 1: JJ Spahd played excellent on Thursday on a course that

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Speaker 1: And then he two plus for birdie, and you're like, God,

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Speaker 1: it was fun for JJ when he won it, but

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying JJ spawn was a the best player

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Speaker 1: But this is an individual sport and it's driven by

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Speaker 1: out before Saturday, And while Scotty was kind of in

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Speaker 1: I also think there was a shot today of and

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Speaker 1: argue that the cool aspect of the course does not

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Speaker 1: show on television. And let's face it, most people that

432
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Speaker 1: consume this tournament are not on the property. This is

433
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Speaker 1: a television product. That's the point of this business model.

434
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 1: And NBC takes a lot of shit because one they

435
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 1: bought this tournament back from Fox for like fifty percent

436
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: I think even less than fifty cents on the dollar.

437
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: It might have been for like thirty cents on the dollar.

438
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: And they do exactly what they've done before they bought

439
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: the tournament. I mean, there are a lot of shots

440
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 1: today that they don't even have shot tracker on, Like, guys,

441
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 1: this isn't the cognizance that this isn't the Hunda Classic,

442
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: this is the US Open. How do I not have

443
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 1: a shot tracer on every fucking shot this twenty twenty five.

444
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 1: But I think you could argue that television didn't do

445
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 1: this course justice because as the tournament went on, the

446
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 1: course does feel a little bland on television, which clearly

447
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: it's not and anyone that plays it, and if you

448
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: watch any of these YouTube videos of the guys of

449
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 1: the creators of Bryson, the course looks cool the way

450
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: they do it, yet when they're doing it on television,

451
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: it's just not quite as good. So I guess, as

452
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Speaker 1: a long winded way of saying, I was a little

453
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Speaker 1: disappointed as a viewer. And I don't even know if

454
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Speaker 1: it's the course fault, because the course lived up to

455
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Speaker 1: the hype. I mean, one guy under par at the

456
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Speaker 1: beginning of the week, they started pulling all these players

457
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: like would you sign up for even par? Would you

458
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Speaker 1: sign up for two over par? And I mean a

459
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: lot of these guys were taking these scores and looking back,

460
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Speaker 1: you one hundred percent would have signed up for even

461
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Speaker 1: par right one. I mean it took a guy making

462
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Speaker 1: a seventy foot put or whatever on eighteen to break even.

463
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Speaker 1: Par So the course lived up to the hype. It

464
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Speaker 1: kicked the shit out of everybody.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it destroyed most of these guys.

466
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Speaker 1: So, I mean Bryceon d Chambeau not even sniffing the cut,

467
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Speaker 1: you know, ejecting the Justin Thomas as some of these

468
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: guys was, I guess cool, but then at the same

469
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Speaker 1: time it's like, do you really want that?

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Speaker 2: I kind of torn.

471
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Speaker 1: But I mean some of these guys down the stretch today,

472
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: Hatton fell apart, Hovelin actually played pretty well. Robert McIntyre.

473
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean, look who played pretty well in this tournament

474
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Speaker 1: beside JJ Spond, Robert McIntyre international guy used to the elements,

475
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: Hovelin grew up in like fucking Iceland, Cam Young from

476
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Speaker 1: New York, Haddon, UK rom comfortable in the elements. Obviously,

477
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: scheffler Is couldn't put. So I mean Ben Griffin having

478
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Speaker 1: himself a good season. Xander Schoffley the sneakiest T twelve

479
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I don't know if I saw Xander

480
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: Schoffley hit a shot today, shot sixty nine Koepka actually

481
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: pretty solid T twelve as well, seventy three, seventy one

482
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Speaker 1: on the weekend. But Roy McElroy somehow finished in the

483
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Speaker 1: top twenty. Did not see if you would have asked

484
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Speaker 1: me before, I just looked at the leaderboard. Or do

485
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: you think Rory McIlroy finished. I would have been like

486
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: thirty third, tied for thirty third. He finished tied for nineteenth,

487
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: So it shows you and tied for nineteenth was plus

488
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: seven like you finished in the top twenty five. Jordan

489
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: Spieth finished in the top twenty five with eight over par,

490
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Speaker 1: shooting seventy two on on Sunday. So I mean, I

491
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Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, I don't think

492
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Speaker 1: this is something that people would want a lot. And

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Speaker 1: that's always something that people push back against when it

494
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Speaker 1: comes to this tournament or just tournaments in general. Is

495
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Speaker 1: it's too easy, too many birdie fests. I do think

496
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 1: that's kind of entertaining, you know. I think we see

497
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Speaker 1: this in the NBA. People push against three pointers, and

498
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Speaker 1: I think there is a line where three pointers can

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Speaker 1: be boring, just like there are a line like when

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Speaker 1: Steph curR and Klay Thompson were hot in their prime,

501
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: they could shoot one hundred and three pointers and everyone's entertained. Right,

502
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: But do I want to see some random guy shooting

503
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Speaker 1: twenty eight percent bombing threes from the from the corner?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: No?

506
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: Right?

507
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Speaker 1: Do I want to see tournament after tournament where thirty

508
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: under part is winning the tournament?

509
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: No?

510
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: But do we make too big of a deal about

511
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen under? I think we probably do because and

512
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: that's hard. It's why some of these guys it's difficult

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Speaker 1: for them to play. And I think if anyone that

514
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Speaker 1: follows the corn Ferry Tour, you know, on a weekly basis,

515
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: to make the cut on the corn Ferry Tour, it's usually,

516
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: like I would I don't know what the average is

517
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, but if I had

518
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Speaker 1: to take an educated guess, I'd bet it's like six

519
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: or seven under. And typically a lot of these tournaments

520
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Speaker 1: to win the corn Fery Tour is well over twenty.

521
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: So that means if you're like ten or eleven under

522
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Speaker 1: on the week, you're probably not sniffing a top twenty.

523
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Speaker 1: And like that.

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Speaker 2: There's a balance of that. You don't want to.

525
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: See that on the PGA Tour, But we do like explosive,

526
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: you know moments, and that speaks of the day to

527
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Speaker 1: day where I felt like it like lacked a little juice,

528
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Speaker 1: like it kind of wasn't working.

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Speaker 2: I got a pretty good idea, I.

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Speaker 1: Think what works and what doesn't when it comes to

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Speaker 1: some of these events, But I don't know, something is

532
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: just a little off unless individual sport not huge names

533
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Speaker 1: might have been it might have just been the nature

534
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Speaker 1: of every single guy getting their ass kicked. But they

535
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Speaker 1: go to this crazy rain delay, and anyone that if

536
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Speaker 1: you're watching this, then you know live in the Northeast

537
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: or the South. I've never lived in the South, but

538
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: you know, being in Philly, I would imagine Pittsburgh.

539
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 2: Same thing.

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Speaker 1: These rainstorms can come through and for a forty five

541
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Speaker 1: minute hour and a half it feels like, is this

542
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: the hardest I've ever seen or felt it rain? Then

543
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's just gone, and that clearly happened,

544
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Speaker 1: and they go to a rain delay and NBC immediately

545
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: just goes. They don't even go to like Dan Hicks

546
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: or Tarrico. It's like, hey, you want to get a

547
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: mic in front of Sam Burns, Adam Scott, JJ spond

548
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: Terrell hadn't you want to just bullshit with these guys.

549
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: People might be cool content.

550
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: Hey, you want to get a caddy on camera?

551
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: What's it like out there? What are you guys doing?

552
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: What do you experience? You want to get some guys

553
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: that just finished. Hey, hey, can we use it for

554
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes to kill some time? Kind of do

555
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: a roundtable. Can you imagine the NFL if there was

556
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: a delay in a game and it was gonna be

557
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: like thirty minutes in a huge game, a playoff game,

558
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: or a late December game. Going to an event from

559
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Speaker 1: like two thousand and eight, and they went to tiger

560
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: which I understand because if I'm an NBC executive and

561
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: we need a break and we're not gonna do any

562
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: content on site, which is fucking insane, We're just gonna

563
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: cut to something pre recorded. They didn't go to like

564
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: last year's event. Hell, they didn't even go to twenty

565
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: sixteen Oakmont where the tournament was being held. They went

566
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Speaker 1: all the way back to two thousand and eight tiger Woods.

567
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight tiger Woods, but they went to

568
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: the Saturday round. Why cause Saturday round. He's making like

569
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: crazy Eagles he's chipping it in.

570
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Speaker 2: It was incredible.

571
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: But think about that they went to a delay. It

572
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: went to two thousand and eight Tiger Woods Saturday, and

573
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: they didn't really even explain it. They just threw it

574
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: up there.

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00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: It was like, okay, I'll watch this for a little bit.

576
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: And it was cool.

577
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: First first shot they showed it was him hitting it

578
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: from like the patrons to the back of the green

579
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: where he ended up making like a one hundred foot

580
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: eagle putt.

581
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: But it's like, what are we doing here?

582
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: And it's why, like I do think the criticism of

583
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: the network and NBC and the way that they do golf,

584
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: because think about how they do football.

585
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Speaker 2: It's a big deal.

586
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: It feels like a super Bowl every night. How seriously,

587
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: they take the NFL with Tarico, with collins Worth, the production,

588
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: it's a real big deal, and it does feel like

589
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: with golf.

590
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: It's like I.

591
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: Couldn't believe when they went to the rain delay, which

592
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: is no one's fault, nothing you can do that. They

593
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: just immediately went to tiger Woods two thousand and eight

594
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Speaker 1: Saturday round. It's like, guys, you got all all these

595
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: players intense, Like just get a guy on a mic

596
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: they're literally doing that. They're just sitting there. Hey JJ,

597
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: what was it like when your ball hit the pin?

598
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: Did you are you mentally losing it right now? Hey Sam,

599
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: do you feel like you're in a pretty good position

600
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: to win this tournament?

601
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: Adam?

602
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: Like, what are the nerves like right now? Knowing that

603
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to win your second major of

604
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: your career? And like they were talking about on the broadcast,

605
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: become a Hall of Famer because Adam Scott has said

606
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: I guess in the past that he doesn't view himself

607
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: as a Hall of Famer because he only has one major.

608
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: They didn't do any of that. All these guys are

609
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: sitting around, got a million fucking microphones.

610
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: Crazy.

611
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: It's crazy how bad my allergies are here and ares

612
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: I've never had allergies in my life, and my allergies

613
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: now are pretty outrageous. I did want to hit on

614
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: this Roy McElroy, and I went back. I'm glad that

615
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: I didn't react on Saturday night to this tournament because

616
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: I think it would have been.

617
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: Probably pretty aggressive.

618
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Speaker 1: Roy McElroy is acting like the press treat him like

619
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: he's a sitting president or something like he is about

620
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: to be asked like what do you think of the

621
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: ice raids and what's your stance on the trans movement.

622
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean they're literally asking you, Rory, how's your driver working?

623
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: Why did you hit a sand wedge on thirteen? And

624
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: I do get when you go back to the PGA

625
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: Championship and the driver story leaked. Clearly the people at

626
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Speaker 1: the PGA that test the driver told the media about

627
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: Rory and that's where the story leaked, even though Scottie

628
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: Scheffler and other guys also failed to test. So in

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Speaker 1: that individual instance, I get being mad, and I get

630
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Speaker 1: even not talking for a couple of days, I get

631
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: it totally understandable. Emotions run high, even if I technically

632
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: kind of want to disagree with Like, Bro, you're the

633
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: most famous guy in the sport. Part of being Michael Jordan,

634
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: part of being Tiger Woods, part of being in this

635
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: position is like taking the arrow sometimes, which you have

636
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 1: in the past, but it doesn't just end when you

637
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: arbitrarily wanted to end. But in an individual instance, I

638
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: get being like f you guys, totally understandable. Now we're

639
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: like two months later, and for him to come out

640
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: and say like I'm mad at you guys, like, what

641
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: are you talking about?

642
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: Like mad at some guy that writes for golf dot.

643
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: Com like Rory to say, and I saw Paul McGinley,

644
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: who is a big part of the Golf Channel, say like,

645
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: I don't really recognize this Rory. He does just look

646
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: kind of angry. Now, obviously this course can be pretty frustrating,

647
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: but he helicoptered countless clubs, he shattered.

648
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: A tea box.

649
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: He's refusing to talk the majority of the time, So listen,

650
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm not into psychoanalyzing what's going on in the guy's life.

651
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: Who knows what's happening at his home. He had a

652
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: divorce that almost happened a year ago. They reconciled.

653
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: You never know.

654
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes problems don't just go away. But clearly, whatever's going

655
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: on right now for a guy that looked like his

656
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: season was about to be a rocket ship. He won Pebble,

657
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: won the Players, then won the fucking Masters. If you

658
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: would have bet at that moment, do you think Rory's

659
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: gonna go on to have a massive season, win like

660
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: five times another major? Or if you would have said,

661
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: do you think he's just gonna mail it in and

662
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: suck from there? On out. I think ninety percent of

663
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: people would have been, like, he's gonna have an awesome season,

664
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: no pressure, everyone's supporting him. He's just everyone's rooting for him.

665
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: It's fun to watch him play. He's just kind of vibing,

666
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: and it's been the complete opposite. And listen, money success

667
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: impacts us all differently. Rory's been rich for a long time,

668
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: so money doesn't impact how hard he's been practicing. He's

669
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: grinded the last ten years trying to win a major.

670
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: He has been filthy rich. But clearly that moment of

671
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: winning that championship, whatever that did off the course, to me,

672
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: has manifested it into the way he's kind of operating

673
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: and acting. And we're geting a different guy because whatever's

674
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: going on is not the human that we witnessed destroyed

675
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: JJ spond in that playoff to make those incredible shots

676
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: on Sunday at the Masters, and that sucks, you know,

677
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: like it Listen, did it suck to have Bryson missed

678
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: the cut?

679
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: Of course, it's golf.

680
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 1: It happens, right, I mean, look at John Rahm last year,

681
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: had a foot issue, played bad in the Majors, kind

682
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: of got his mojo back, and John Ram's just kind

683
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: of back being in the mix. Scott He's had some

684
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: weird moments last year at the at the British Open,

685
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, is bitching and moaning. Like, I give you,

686
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: it's golf, it's hard, right, But whatever's going on with

687
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: Rory is not an enjoyable experience. And I don't know why.

688
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not really given much insight into it,

689
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: but I think we're past the point of like he's

690
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: just mad.

691
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: At the quote unquote.

692
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: Media that like Sirius XM and golf dot com and

693
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour dot Com are asking, Hey, what's up

694
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: with the driver? Hey Rory, how is that seven iron

695
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: on fourteen? Like, bro, what are we even talking about that?

696
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: There can never there's never been a time in the

697
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: history of sports where it's been easier to be an

698
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: athlete and get asked questions. And there's definitely never been

699
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: a time where it's easier to be a golfer and

700
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: get asked questions. I think it shows what a complete list.

701
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: Golf has always been a rich man's country club bubble sport.

702
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: It has become less like that to the public, given

703
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: there are more public courses and access to golf, though

704
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: the prices post twenty twenty are outrageous in most of

705
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: these places where we live. I mean, to play a

706
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 1: ship banger course is like sixty eighty one hundred dollars.

707
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: You used to be able to find the crappiest course

708
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: in America. You could play for like ten twenty bucks.

709
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: Now it's like you couldn't sniff a course for underd

710
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: and fifty bucks and anything half decent running like one

711
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars. So it maybe it's shifting back

712
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: the other way. But a lot of these guys on

713
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: tour live in there, a little bubble member at all

714
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: these country clubs, fly private for you know, starting in

715
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: their early twenties, hard to have a great grasp on society.

716
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: In a weird way, it felt like Rory did, and

717
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: now whatever happened over the course of the last couple

718
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: of months, it felt like he's kind of lost it.

719
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: It's why sometimes when you see a Cinderella moment happen

720
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: like JJ Spawn, you kind of find yourself rooting for

721
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: it because you're like, that guy's kind of relatable, unlike

722
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: some of these other guys, right, Like I bet Jjspahn

723
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: flies a lot on commercial airlines. I bet jjspawn doesn't

724
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: live in the biggest house in Scottsdale, right, I bet

725
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: JJ spawn like drives a car that more often not's

726
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: gonna look like minor yours than DJs.

727
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: Right.

728
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: And it's why, like as it kind of took shape,

729
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: root for him and listen, anytime you're the guy at

730
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain, it's where the wind blows

731
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: the hardest, so you're gonna take the most shit. Ask

732
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: lebron as Brady, as Tiger, ask Rory. But like part

733
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: of it is like more is asked of you to

734
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: have thick skin and be able to handle it, and

735
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: for him to constantly be mad. I just bo you're

736
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: laughing at that bad unless it is and we just

737
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: don't know.

738
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

739
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: This is very bizarre and honestly kind of off putting,

740
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: you know, as someone that roots for the guy.

741
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,440
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Speaker 1: Let's end on this, Let's answer a couple questions and

751
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: get out of here at Golopod. At Golopod is the Instagram.

752
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: You guys can fire in those dms whenever I don't

753
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: even I mean, is there a golf tournament this week?

754
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: Maybe? Is the Travelers in two weeks? And who knows?

755
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: There might be a signature event this week. I haven't

756
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: even looked, But if there is, maybe we'll do some

757
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: gambling stuff later this week. But at Golopod, firing those

758
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: dms get questions answered on the show. This from cal question,

759
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: what's going on with this guy? He needs to be

760
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: admitted to the looney bin or just get some medication.

761
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: He's speaking about Rory when a USGA official he sent

762
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: me this post approach Rory about his media availability. As

763
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: he walked from the scoring room to the clubhouse without

764
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: stopping and said I'm good and kept on walking. He

765
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: did talk on Saturday.

766
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: But I'm with you.

767
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: It's a lot of people when you're just a nice guy,

768
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: if you're in the public eye all the time, you're

769
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: gonna screw up. You're gonna say things that are gonna

770
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: piss people off. I'm sure I say things every single

771
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: day on my podcast that someone disagrees with, whether it's

772
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: a serious thing, whether it's not serious as part of

773
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, talking and anytime that you're a pro athlete

774
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: and you're the top pro athlete, you're talking in front

775
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: of a camera and a microphone all the time, like

776
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: you're allowed to make mistakes. But I think this Rory

777
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: is like owning himself in this situation. He's making it

778
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: worse a lot, like Marikawa did a couple months ago.

779
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: It's like, Bro, this isn't this complicated. These people aren't

780
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: asking you tough questions. Just say yeah, man, I was emotional.

781
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: I stormed off on Sunday. I regret doing that.

782
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: I was pissed off.

783
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to win. Totally get it. We all would

784
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: do if we were in your shoes. It's not that

785
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: fucking big a deal. But constantly doubling down, like screw you.

786
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: I don't know you shit, Like, bro, who.

787
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: Are you even talking about? Who are you talking to?

788
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: And you do all the television partners something, you do

789
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: all these tournaments that you are making money off some

790
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: where do you think the money comes from the sponsors?

791
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: Do you think this money just comes from the sky.

792
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: Now, Rory is so.

793
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: Rich, he's so out of touch with that flow.

794
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 2: Maybe he just at this point doesn't give a shit anymore,

795
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 2: which I kind of.

796
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: Feels that way because it doesn't feel like he cares

797
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: that much, which is his prerogative. But him saying like, oh,

798
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: they can't force me to do It's like Rory, it's

799
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: not about forcing or not forcing. It's just about like,

800
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: this is the business you're in. We all have parts

801
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: of whatever business we're in that suck every single human

802
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: whether you're in sales, whether you're a janitor, whether you

803
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: run a construction company, whether you're a doctor, There is

804
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: a part of every single one of our jobs, no

805
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: matter what if you starting quarterback, whether you CEO of

806
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: you're Jamie Diving, you run Chase, there is literally something

807
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: or a couple things in your daily you know, operating,

808
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: You know operation that you do, you despise doing that,

809
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: You put off or something you do on a weekly basis,

810
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: or like I'm dreading doing this, welcome to life, and

811
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: you still got to do it. And Roy's like, well,

812
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: technically don't have to do it.

813
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to do it.

814
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: But speaking is part of I don't know this business

815
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: that is professional sports and the generating mechanism that brings

816
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: the I don't know cash that pays for your hundreds

817
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: and millions of dollars that you have in the bank

818
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: that didn't just it doesn't just exist because you're awesome

819
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: at golf. There are a lot of dudes awesome at

820
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: golf all over the world that no one ever watches play.

821
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: But you play on this PGA tour. That's this vehicle

822
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: to generate the coin. Do you think the question for

823
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: the golo mailback.

824
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: Speaking of the PGA Tour and live, do you.

825
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: Think the golf world, more specifically the broadcast partners can

826
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: ever get over the live PGA split. I watch both

827
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: tours pretty regularly, and I find it frustrating at the

828
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: majors when they just put when they hardly go into

829
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: detail on any of to live guys. A great example

830
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: is Ortiz. As I type this he's within striking distance

831
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: on a Sunday in a major. The broadcast only says

832
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: he's never finished a high in a major. The dude

833
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: is having a really solid year on lift. I just

834
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: don't get why we can't celebrate all golfers, regardless of

835
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: where they choose to play. Cheers, brother, Well, I think

836
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: you'd have to ask them specifically. I mean, was it

837
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: last year in the US Open when Brandal Shambily was

838
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: I mean actively rooting for Rory against bryceon like he

839
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 1: can I like Brandew, I'm a huge Brandal Shambily fan,

840
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: but he can't deny that he was rooting for Rory.

841
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: But we know where he stands. Tweets about it all

842
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: the time. He listen to some people, definitely in the media,

843
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: to some people in general, you know, get very on

844
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: their moral high horse about the Saudi situations, like guys,

845
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: our countries balls deep in business with them. Like so

846
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: it's like you're gonna worry about the golfers, Like, give

847
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: me a break. I never even you know, live it's

848
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: paying us now we're talking about a little me and Colin.

849
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: But anyone that's listened to me for a long time morally,

850
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: I was unfazed by it. I did not care. I

851
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: would have taken the money too. If they would have

852
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: thrown in front of me, if you would offer me

853
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars like Bryson, d Chambora or Brooks Koepka,

854
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: zero chance I would have turned it down.

855
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: None.

856
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: And I think there's a jealousy factor on the players,

857
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: some of them that stayed because they clearly could have

858
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: got one hundred and one hundred and fifty million dollars

859
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: and that money's gone now, that money no longer exists

860
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: in the sense of it's been reported that lives done

861
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: giving out the huge bonuses. Bryson just talked about it about,

862
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: you know, renegotiating. We'll have to see how that plays out.

863
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: Now he's kind of an outlier, But I do think

864
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: the broadcast partners like whoever you're in business with, and

865
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: it's a serious business partner.

866
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: So let's use CBS.

867
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: CBS is embedded with the PGA Tour. The PGA Tour

868
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: is a huge deal to CBS. It's a lot of

869
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: programming for him throughout the year, and they have been

870
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: partners for a long long time. So anyone that you're

871
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: in business with and you have like there's and you've

872
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: made money with there should be some sort of loyalty

873
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: to that. So I get some of these commentators that

874
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: are really close with people on the PGA tour having

875
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: a bias, right, they did pick a side, and they

876
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: can't hide Kevin Kissner, who is now and I'm not

877
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: saying he did this, He's a PGA Tour member, Like

878
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: that's his crew.

879
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: These are his guys that stayed.

880
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: Now, who knows, maybe if you're having beers with kids,

881
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: he doesn't actually care, but like if you told me

882
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: he did or doesn't like love the situation, it's kind

883
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: of understandable. So we're all products, especially in business of

884
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: like who are you in business with? Anyone listening to

885
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: this that knows people in the booze business knows that

886
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: it's a really big deal to them. When you're with

887
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: them and you order their competing brand, they were like, no,

888
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: order the different one. Do you think it's because they

889
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: really love the taste that much? Or it's like, no,

890
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: we're not doing business with these motherfuckers. We're trying to

891
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: take them down. It's part of life, that's part of

892
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: you know, that's part of business. So I think there's

893
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: a competitive thing there. I do think they get treated differently,

894
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: for sure. You know, you don't have to treat Bryson

895
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: and Rahm differently because we know him so well. But

896
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you on Carlos Otz. He's clearly a really

897
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: talented young guy that I don't know that much about, right.

898
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: I would love to hear more, but you're just You're

899
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: just not gonna get it, so I don't expect it

900
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: to come.

901
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 2: A big fan.

902
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 1: I watch every major with my dad and thought about

903
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: the US Open. That is really the true test of

904
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: the year, and isn't a birdie fest. Do you think

905
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: it would be beneficial for the PGA to have a

906
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: yearly tournament that rotates the top course every year that

907
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: they intentionally make extremely difficult for the pros. The common

908
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: golf might find it boring, but people like us who

909
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: enjoy the carnage would love to see these guys struggle

910
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: more than once a year at the US Open, and

911
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: it's not always super low scoring like it could be.

912
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts, Also, if you're ever in Rochester,

913
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: New York, just play some golf at Oakhill. I don't

914
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: think a lot of the guys would play. I really don't.

915
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't think they'd show up. I don't think they'd participate.

916
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: And you can say they're really soft. But if I

917
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: told you you're Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVay, would you

918
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: rather play the eighty five Bears or the two thousand

919
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: and one Ravens or would you rather play the Jags?

920
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: What do you think they're gonna say?

921
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: So?

922
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: I think part of it is people try to avoid

923
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: difficult situations. Mentally breaks you down when you don't have to.

924
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: And most of these guys now are so rich they

925
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: can pick their schedule, the business model they don't, you know,

926
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: unlike on the PGA Tour and like live, you don't

927
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: have to play any tournaments. It was thought forever that

928
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: it was gonna be forced to play these signature events,

929
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: and it's Rory's proven. Scott Scotty and Rory both have

930
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: skipped signature events over the last couple of months, and

931
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 1: not because they're injured.

932
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: They're healthy.

933
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: So I think one's enough after watching this, and I'm

934
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: pro carnage to a point until I've like I kind

935
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: of want to be entertained, it's not really entertaining me,

936
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: so I would say that's not gonna happen because I want.

937
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they would get the buy in. I

938
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: think there would be courses they would volunteer, say hey,

939
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: come to my course. We will trick this bad boy

940
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: up and kick the shit out of these guys.

941
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: And I think the guy's just one show.

942
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about the backlash live golfers have faced

943
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: and wanted to get your take. Why do you think

944
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: players jumping from the PGA to live get so much

945
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: flak while similar shift entertainment, like big name actors moving

946
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: from traditional Hollywood studios to streaming platforms, seems to go

947
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: mostly unnoticed or even celebrated. In both cases, there was

948
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: once only one clear path of success until a player

949
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: came along, offering top talent, more money in flexibility. Yet

950
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: live golfers are often vilified, while actors making similar moves

951
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: are seen as progressive or smart. Is it a source

952
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: of the money, the tradition of the sport, or something

953
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: else entirely.

954
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: Well?

955
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: I think with a movie, right, what show was I

956
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: watching recently? I was watching Stick, the Owen Wilson golf

957
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: show that they put on Apple TV. That if that

958
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: was on Netflix, if it's on Apple TV or if

959
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: it's on Amazon Prime, if enough people are talking about it,

960
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: I'm going to end up watching it and liking it,

961
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: and ultimately, like I'm not invested into CBS, into Netflix

962
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: in the Amazon, I.

963
00:47:58,960 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: Don't really care.

964
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: Right, Like when I went to see a movie, for example,

965
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: as a kid, I don't go to movies anymore. It

966
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: didn't matter to me what studio produced the movie, if

967
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: the stars were in the movie, Like when I was

968
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: a kid, Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know, Tom Hanks,

969
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: you name it, Denzel Washington, they drew you to the movie.

970
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: You didn't give a shit. The As you get older,

971
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: you know more about like the directors. You're like, oh,

972
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: Scorsese film. But when you're young, you don't care. It's

973
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: like this guy's just really famous. I want to go

974
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: watch the Rock, right, I want to go watch this

975
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: famous actor in this movie. You don't know who directed it,

976
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: who produced it. You don't care. And I think there's

977
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: an element like an actor is an independent contractor slash

978
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: independent business in himself a lot like golfers. So like

979
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: when you have there are only so many golfers that

980
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: truly move the needle and the numbers under ten, and

981
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: when they play against each other, it helps and it matters.

982
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: Watching Tiger play against Phil is much better than watching

983
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: Tiger play against some random even though it's still Tiger playing.

984
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: But when you get Tiger playing against a legendary player

985
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: like that. Part of what made twenty nineteen in the

986
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: him winning the Masters cool is like can't lead DJ final,

987
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: like there were other famous guys there that we know

988
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 1: or knew at the time, Like this is a pretty

989
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: big deal, right.

990
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 2: And Golf's an individual sport, so.

991
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: You can't separate and live take Took, Bryson and Ram

992
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: and look, Hatton is a really good player. I mean,

993
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: these guys are like righter cuppers. And when I remove

994
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: if there are obviously there's top one hundred players, right,

995
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: but there's a big difference between like the top I

996
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: would say twenty ish and if LIV takes four or

997
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: five of those top twenty guys, it does Deman finish

998
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: some of these bigger tournaments, non majors, And obviously there's

999
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: a jealousy factor and there's animosity and some of a

1000
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: lot of these guys you know, said no, So there

1001
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 1: are a lot of different variables, but at this point

1002
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: in time, I think we've seen this sport, just like

1003
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: any individual sport is not strong enough and it's just

1004
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: Golf's a niche operation.

1005
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: This is not football.

1006
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: But even football couldn't overcome if some league just stole

1007
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts and Justin Herbert like it would

1008
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: be it would hurt the league. So I think there

1009
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: are a lot of factors here and inevitably, like they've

1010
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: had conversations and working towards stuff. Who knows when it

1011
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 1: actually plays out, but like it's I understand why people

1012
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: were mad. I understood why people took the money, and

1013
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: I understand while this is not a sustainable model for everybody,

1014
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: and inevitably, whether that's in two years, that's in ten years,

1015
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: I don't know when I'm done even guessing or slash

1016
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: even caring. That's why at first my reactions like I

1017
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: want to do business with Live. It's like, well, they

1018
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: got top players, so if I can get access to

1019
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: the top guys, Uh yeah, let's they can come on

1020
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: the pod, you know, Can I get John Ramin? Can

1021
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: I get Terrell Hatton on the pod? Because I like

1022
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: PGA tours, giving me those guys. So I we're at

1023
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: the point now it's twenty twenty five, so let's let's

1024
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: attempt to figure it out. I played baseball growing up,

1025
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 1: played golf for about two years now. I still grip

1026
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: the club like a baseball bat. What is the benefit

1027
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: of the finger lock or different grip styles. Does it

1028
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: help with more consistent swing or do you think it's

1029
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: essential to learn how to hold the club. I've tried

1030
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: every once in a while in interlock in my fingers,

1031
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: but it feels awkward. You'd have to YouTube. I would

1032
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: YouTube like golf coaches talking about the golf grip and

1033
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: the interlock. I don't know the benefits in terms of

1034
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: grip pressure. I would say you definitely have better grip

1035
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: pressure in terms of holding the club than a baseball bat,

1036
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: which is obviously a lot heavier than a golf club.

1037
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: I've been playing golf. I mean, I was awful at baseball.

1038
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: I quit after a little league. I've been playing golf

1039
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: much longer than I ever played baseball. So the interlock

1040
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: grip is like what it feels like to you with

1041
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: the baseball bat. Gripping a golf club like a baseball

1042
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: bat feels.

1043
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: Weird to me.

1044
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: The interlock grip, even when I just do it with

1045
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 1: my hands standing, you know, sitting on my office chair

1046
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: feels like a normal movement to my hands.

1047
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: So I.

1048
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: Can't imagine there'll be many good players over the last

1049
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: fifty years that did not have an interlocking grip. Could

1050
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: be wrong, but let me say this differently. There's a

1051
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: very very short list of guys in the history of golf,

1052
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: definitely modern day, that grip it like a baseball bat. Okay,

1053
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: last question. I've recently gotten into golf and have noticed

1054
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: that my first few holes go well at my plans,

1055
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: my play starts to go downhill. Do you notice this

1056
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: with your game? Is there a solution as simple as

1057
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: slowing down and taking more time for each shot. Also,

1058
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: you keep track of your handicap. How much have you

1059
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: improved since you started playing well? I mean, I've had

1060
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: a handicap for thirty plus years.

1061
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: So it's gone up and down. I would say, yeah.

1062
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say my downfall of golf is

1063
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: I struggle with eighteen holes.

1064
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I have a ton.

1065
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: Of respect for all the guys that play professionally collegiately,

1066
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: because you're playing day after day. So it's not even

1067
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: just eighteen holes, it's you might have three straight days

1068
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: of having to focus on every given shot. I shot

1069
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: eighty three yesterday and I finished triple. I finished five

1070
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: over in the last four holes, which is by far

1071
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: the easiest stretch. So, like I mean, if I just

1072
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: usually I finish even or one under on that stretch

1073
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: and I finished five over, it might have been you know,

1074
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: had a transfusion and then a beer. But I just

1075
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: I kind of didn't focus on a web shot and

1076
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it kind of spiraled, and all

1077
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden.

1078
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on?

1079
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: And if it wouldn't have been for probably like a

1080
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: ten foot par putt on seventeen, it would have been

1081
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: six over in the last four holes. So focus on golf,

1082
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: It's what. The game of golf is much closer to

1083
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: the like I would say kicking in football, elements of baseball.

1084
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: It's a lot of thinking and a lot of a

1085
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: lot of focus. You know, in basketball and football you

1086
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: just get to play. Obviously, in football you have to

1087
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: know the play. But if I'm a tight end and

1088
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm running a five yard out route and I have

1089
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: an inside release, if the guy shaded over my right shoulder, right,

1090
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: Like I just get to play full speed.

1091
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: I just get to play. Right.

1092
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: If I'm the offensive tackle and I have a reach block, like,

1093
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: I just fucking go full speed. Right if I'm the

1094
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: linebacker and it's gonna be third and one, like I

1095
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: know this is probably gonna come between the guard and

1096
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: the center buckle that chin strap and just go. You know,

1097
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: golf like the harder you try sometimes the worse you play.

1098
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: But you do need to try, but you also need

1099
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: to focus. So it's just it's a mentally to It's

1100
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: what makes it just a fun, unique challenge that no

1101
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: matter how good you get, it keeps you coming back

1102
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: for more. No matter how bad you are, every good

1103
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: shot kind of keeps you interested. It's one of the

1104
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: only things that kind of, you know, for us as

1105
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: you get older, helps you meet new people, gets you outside.

1106
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what else would get me

1107
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: outside for five hours.

1108
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 2: And one hundred and five degrees.

1109
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: Not many things, probably nothing beside a swimming pool. So

1110
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: I think it's just it's a special game slash activity

1111
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: that you always are in the in the process of

1112
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: trying to figure out. But I would say, one of

1113
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: the more difficult aspects of the game of golf is upstairs.

1114
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: And even once you get to you know, let's say

1115
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm just let's say you're a twenty handicap. You keep playing,

1116
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: to keep practicing. If you're a decent athlete, it's pretty

1117
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: easy to start kind of working your way from like

1118
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 1: a ten to a fifteen or excuse me, like twenty

1119
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: fifteen down to a ten. Once you get into that

1120
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: single digits, Like I've hovered between a six and a

1121
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: three handicap for really probably six seven years now, and

1122
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: I wonder if I've hit a ceiling. Not because I

1123
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: don't have the shots, I mean I can. You can

1124
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: watch me play a two hole stretch where're like it's

1125
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: got like a plus two handicap, but mentally I don't

1126
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: really have it. I'm not I wouldn't say I'm a

1127
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: mental midget, but I struggle, like in life with just

1128
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's eighty D but just pure

1129
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: focus where I have a lot of respect the people

1130
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: that just can consistent, you know, scratch and better golfers.

1131
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: If you're not like a college golfer, how do you

1132
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: how do you able to focus on the shots for

1133
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: five hours.

1134
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 2: It's hard.

1135
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: It's what makes the the game difficult, but it's also

1136
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: what makes it fun because even once you start rolling,

1137
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: you kind of feel yourself. One bad shot will humble

1138
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: your as.

1139
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: Fast, so wind on that.

1140
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: Congrats to jjspond US Open champion and Oakmont I Guess

1141
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: for kicking.

1142
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: The shit out of everybody

1143
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 1: The volume