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Speaker 2: And welcome back to the NFL Scouting Combine here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson. Why, thank you,

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Speaker 2: You're welcome.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 2: and OOX Sports Pittsburgh. And I'm just looking here at

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Speaker 2: some of the news coming.

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Speaker 4: At amat talk about because we've go on the air

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Speaker 4: so much busy doing out of my routine.

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Speaker 2: You know, the chiefs have granted cornerback Lagerius sneed permission

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Speaker 2: to seek a trade this after they tagged him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there has been some rumors that even T.

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Speaker 4: Higgins could search for a trade or I think Burns

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Speaker 4: in Carolina could be a tag and trade type of guy.

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Speaker 4: They need all the picks they could get. This one

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Speaker 4: shocks me, though. I mean, that's the super Bowl champs.

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Speaker 4: They're great at development, the defensive backed. I mean Sneed

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Speaker 4: was not an early pick, doing a really good job

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Speaker 4: with that. And you know, high picks are valuable for them.

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Speaker 4: But I mean I wouldn't consider giving up a one

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Speaker 3: I mean, and he's not young.

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Speaker 4: I think he's twenty six or twenty seven. Ye, I

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Speaker 4: mean he didn't come out, you know, particularly young out

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Speaker 4: so well because he is aggressive, he's nasty. They blitz

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Speaker 4: him a lot. He plays a slot, he'll follow ones.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes he's a little too physical in terms of you know,

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Speaker 4: the penalties and what not. He's actually twenty seven because

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Speaker 4: he's twenty seven, okay. I mean the other thing though

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Speaker 4: to year at times, and if you throw him in

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Speaker 4: a new situation will be as good. He's an interesting player.

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Speaker 4: I think he'll still be achieved when it's all said,

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Speaker 4: and I think as well, and unless you're really special,

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Speaker 4: which I think he's really good, but he's not really special.

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Speaker 4: Giving up a high pick and paying him in the

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Speaker 3: That's because when you put the tag on him, you've

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Speaker 2: The price he's gonna at least that he's gonna get

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean usually the TRANCHI guys go for seconds

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Speaker 3: So that's the tough part of that.

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Speaker 3: The Jets also have, okayed Zach Wilson to see a trade.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's that's swell. I mean I don't think you're

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Speaker 2: I mean you probably look at maybe somebody would swamp

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Speaker 4: Yeah, something like that, because I mean he makes money

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Speaker 4: he has not had the easiest thing to deal with.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I always like to give those early picks

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Speaker 4: not suggesting at all he's I thought he was way

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Speaker 4: suggesting he should be a Steeler. But Mac Jones, Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 4: Jameis Winston, some of these dudes, some of those are

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Speaker 2: Stranger things have happened. But yeah, so those are the

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Speaker 2: two of the big things that come out of today.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs releasing Marquez Valdez Scantling to free up twelve million.

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Speaker 4: Easy one. Yeah, that's an easy, easy one.

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Speaker 3: That's you know, we were talking about the Deontay Johnson situation.

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Speaker 2: That's he's a much better player, and the cap savings

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Speaker 4: I mean you're tagging guys, you're talking to Chris Jones.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just looking here at Bucky Brooks also put

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Speaker 4: He's running around here an hour or two ago, so.

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Speaker 2: I'm walking around, uh, and he has the Steelers taking

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Speaker 4: I would totally understand it. I would totally understand it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think he's gonna be a guy you

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Speaker 4: salivate over, especially if you're an offensive line coach, when

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Speaker 4: you watch him do his drills for the Steelers. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Of there are some guys here that he has them

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Speaker 4: I'd be curious who that is. Real quick on Mims,

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Speaker 2: Yeah as a stance today, work him in and Latham,

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Speaker 4: QUINNYA.

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Speaker 2: Mitchell was still available. He went to the Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 4: Mitchell probably. It's funny because Daniel Jeremiah was sitting here

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Speaker 4: I Preferredagite over all those guys. Yeah, that would be

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Speaker 3: Let's see Powers Johnson must have been gone.

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Speaker 2: Uh no, Powers Johnson, that power the first round.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I still lean towards tackle in the corner, I think,

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Speaker 2: But plenty of good choices there. Yeah, that would have

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Speaker 2: of pre combine ish pomp drafts. These things are going

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Speaker 3: It didn't change it because of what happened at the combine.

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Speaker 3: It changed because of what people heard at the combine.

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Speaker 3: That's what changes the pecking order.

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Speaker 4: Yes, one hundred percent. And a lot of these team

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Speaker 4: or they signed a tackle so they wouldn't drive mims

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Speaker 4: I know, mock drafts are great clickbait and they we

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Speaker 4: like them. They're fun to talk about. You can think about,

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Speaker 4: well what if this guy falls on all that? But

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that if you asked mel or Bucky or

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Speaker 4: go back to your February marks, they're probably like, what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again to your point, Uh, you know, teams

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Speaker 2: Well, this this uh, this guard group is deeper than

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Speaker 2: what we thought. Well, we're not going to pay four

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Speaker 4: Yep, and then the other thing. A lot of mock

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Speaker 4: It's hard to do it. For thirty four thirty two

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Speaker 4: want to get pigeonholed into those things too.

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Speaker 2: No, sure, Yeah, it's in the future a little bit. Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: You know, so when when when people start talking about, well,

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Speaker 2: That's where the NFL teams had them all along. The

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Speaker 4: Up on catching up, and the fans are catching up

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Speaker 4: through the draftnicks. Of course, can someone stock go up

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Speaker 4: But you'll hear things on NFL network, ESPN or whatever.

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Speaker 4: His interviews were tremendous. Yeah, okay, well then that breaks ties,

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Speaker 4: that people's influences change even very late in the process,

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Speaker 4: sit there and have a meal with him. Pick him

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Speaker 4: up at the airport. Boy, he fits in great here.

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Speaker 2: You know, the thirty visits that you get, so some

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Speaker 2: of those guys that you bring in are guys that

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Speaker 2: want to have meet with your coaches, show around the building.

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Speaker 2: The majority of them, though, are medical retests.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot, a lot like or have some sort

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Speaker 2: They're all gonna want to get you know, if you've

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Speaker 4: not typically, not typically. But it's a crazy process though,

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Speaker 1: When you want black and gold football talk, you want

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Speaker 2: This week answered daily trivia on the NFL Scouting Combine.

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Speaker 2: One of today's questions is which current Steelers registered the

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Speaker 2: better broad jump at the scouting combine, TJ Watt or

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Speaker 2: Alex Highsmith. I can't believe they didn't put Max, Max's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure that was close.

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Speaker 3: Actually, you know, Max for the low for the standing

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Speaker 4: A one big step, yea one big step. Yeah would

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Speaker 2: Broderick Jones. The questions close on Monday. And I met

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Speaker 2: during your break here mel kiper I was looking came

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Speaker 2: out with the new draft here for the you know,

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Speaker 4: So I don't think even comes here, but he's hearing stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's what him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's got the Steelers at twenty, taking cornerback

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Speaker 3: Nate Wiggins from Clemson. I'd be perfect fine with that.

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Speaker 4: You want to talk.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking about another six foot two hundred

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Speaker 4: Extreme athlete with laver cover. I mean, the knock on him.

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Speaker 4: We had this conversation with Max Is. Yeah, he can

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Speaker 4: But you put him and Porter on the outside and

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Speaker 2: And you know, so I would take that right now.

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Speaker 2: The other thing is that people don't think about with

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Speaker 2: you have a good young cornerback and you take another

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Speaker 4: Now those guys are gonna.

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Speaker 2: Push each other, Oh yeah, because they're gonna you know,

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a friendly competition situation. They're gonna yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was a defensive rookie the year finalist. Do you

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00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,719
Speaker 4: think you could do that? Yeah? Right? So now they

436
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 4: both have similar pedigrees, they both have similar skill sets.

437
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 4: I think Wiggins is actually more athletic. I mean, Joey's

438
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 4: probably bigger and more physical and more proven obviously been

439
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,880
Speaker 4: in the league for a year. But I'd be fine

440
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 4: with that. I mean, was there any names after that

441
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 4: that you will say, Eh, if that guy was there,

442
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:04,439
Speaker 4: maybe I wouldn't have gone that.

443
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 2: The run well, the next the next Cooper dejen went

444
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 2: pick ahead of him. Okay, to Talisi wouldn't be a

445
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 2: slam dunk.

446
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I like the gene a lot.

447
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 2: The Bengals took Talis Filaga at eighteen, Okay, that would

448
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 2: be an interesting.

449
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 4: He would sure fit in and with the nastiness, standpoint

450
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 4: plug and play right tackle from what I understand, And again,

451
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 4: I mean pret as much stock in this as you want.

452
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 4: This event isn't made for for Waga. I mean, I

453
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 4: think the the Mims and the Guidans of the world

454
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 4: will be better on the field, turf and in Indy

455
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 4: here than Flaga will be. Is that enough for him

456
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 4: to get to twenty? I bet not. Yeah.

457
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 3: I mean he's a true right tack. I think he's

458
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 3: a true right tax Yeah, which is fine. Yeah, No,

459
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 3: that's fine. He has more cornerbacks going in his first

460
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 3: round here than some of the other mocks.

461
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 4: I've noticed that more and more some of these pro

462
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 4: football focused stuff that's been coming out. One of them

463
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 4: had the Gene going five to the Chargers, you know,

464
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 4: like corners are in demand. I mean, it's easy to

465
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 4: say there's going to be a quality one there at twenty.

466
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 4: But to me where we sit right now, Dejean Arnold, Toledo, Mitchell,

467
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 4: I couldn't remember his name, and Wiggins are the four

468
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: that I'm very comfortable. Those guys are what I know

469
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 4: today right now, unless I would take something happens with

470
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 4: you know, really bad, they're going in the first round.

471
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 4: But he also would be comfortable with them at twenty.

472
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 4: You know, where the others. I'm mu sure I'm comfortable

473
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 4: today at them with twenty at there.

474
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 2: He also has TJ. Tampa going in the first wow

475
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 2: at twenty nine to Detroit. He's got Kamari Lassiter at

476
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 2: thirty to Baltimore, and.

477
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 4: Those teams need them. What if the Chiefs loose need

478
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 4: or you know.

479
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 2: So that's a couple of names that typically aren't there.

480
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 2: If you look at Matt Miller's top fifty here, yeah, it.

481
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 4: Was just over there. Where's his corners coming? He's got.

482
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 3: Terry and Arnold at seven wow? Overall?

483
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 4: Okay, the first defensive player. Yeah, he then has I

484
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 4: don't think Arnold really has any chance of being here.

485
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 2: I don't think so either. I think he goes first.

486
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 2: He's got Ninus Rakestraw number two at fifteen.

487
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 4: Wow. He might be a guy a couple of weeks

488
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 4: from now that I say I'll take him at twenty Yeah,

489
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 4: cool with it. I'm just not there yet on him.

490
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 4: He's got QUINNYA.

491
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 2: Mitchell at seventeen okay, similar, Yeah, then he has the

492
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: next one up is Dejene at twenty two.

493
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Speaker 4: Okay, Then you have still four or five of him

494
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 4: on the top twenty two.

495
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely then you have kool Aid McKinstry at twenty eight.

496
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say i'd take him at twenty right the

497
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 4: second Yeah, but I think he's gonna be I think

498
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 4: he's gonna go in the first round.

499
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: He's got Wiggans all the way down at thirty two.

500
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 4: What's his right up on him? Like, what does he

501
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 4: have any negatives to say besides you know, maybe isn't

502
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 4: the most willing tackler or something along those lines.

503
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: Wiggins is locked down the cornerback one spot for Clemson

504
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 3: the past two seasons, showing excellent speed on a big frame.

505
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 3: In fact, one Clemson coaching source told me he was

506
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 3: the fastest player on the team.

507
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 4: Wigans, Clemson, Clemson.

508
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wiggins is lean and can be susceptible to giving

509
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: up on catches on breaking routes, but his linked and

510
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 2: wheels are intriguing, and he's always around the ball despite

511
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: limited targets, evidenced by seventeen pass breakups, so he gets

512
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 2: his hands on the ball over the twenty two to

513
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 2: twenty three season. Three career interceptions. Scouts will want to

514
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 2: see better ball skills, but Wiggins has started level traits,

515
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: so some of the same stuff that you saw about Porter. Oh,

516
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: you know, he doesn't really picked the ball. If he doesn't,

517
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,479
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a ton of interception for a lot

518
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 2: of PBUs.

519
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of PBUs. He gets his hands on

520
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 4: the ball a lot. I'm a fan from what I've seen.

521
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: Let's see here he's got after that. Then you're looking

522
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: at it. Took a little gap, a little bit of

523
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: a gap there after those top guys.

524
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, that's it. That's it. That's the top fifty,

525
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 4: that's the top all basically the top thirty or so. Yeah.

526
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,239
Speaker 3: So if you look at that, the way he has

527
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 3: that rated there, he is. That was Wiggins was his sixth.

528
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: She had Arnold Rakestraw, Mitchell Dejeene, McKinstry, and then Wiggins.

529
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 4: I'd love to hear why nothing's wrong. I just love

530
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 4: to hear why Rakestraw's two.

531
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Speaker 3: A lot of the stuff that I I've read about him,

532
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: and just a little bit of tape that I've watched

533
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: on him. I haven't done a ton of tape study yet,

534
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 3: but physical physicality is is he seems.

535
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 4: Like a wiry, tough dude that Yeah, the attitude would

536
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 4: fit the Steelers situation, like He's not bashful about sticking

537
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 4: his face in there tackle or attacking the ball in

538
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 4: the air, or getting his hands on guys through routes

539
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 4: or pressing at the line of scrimmage. Those are things

540
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 4: I definitely know about him. For sure. I would have

541
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: loved to see more from the Senier Bowl. But that's

542
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 4: maybe he makes five. You know, I think there's four

543
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 4: that I'm real comfortable with twenty and there's a better

544
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 4: chance Rakestraw for me than kool Aid would be that

545
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 4: fifth one. Yeah.

546
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: And if you look at that linebacker position that we

547
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: were just talking about, Yeah, his first guy on there

548
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: is Edgrian Cooper at forty five.

549
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 4: Forty five. Wow, I mean if he's lasting that long,

550
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 4: I'd be really interested for that. Yeah, anyone else on

551
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: the top fifty.

552
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 3: Well, right after Cooper is Junior Coulson, Okay, right right

553
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 3: next to each other.

554
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, he does do position ranks at the end of

555
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 4: the article, right, Yeah, who were top five linebackers.

556
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 2: The Coulson is a little bit different too, because he's

557
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: six three to forty seven. Although he didn't look that big,

558
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: Oh really saw I saw him. I looked at him,

559
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at him from ten feet away. Yeah,

560
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 2: podium at the linebacker position, he's Cooper one, Junior Coulson two,

561
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson three.

562
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 3: He does look every bit of this.

563
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 4: I bet I heard he looks the part.

564
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jalen Ford at four and then Jeremiah Trotter at five.

565
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 4: The testing stuff with Trotter and the overall athleticism. People

566
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 4: get a little enamored with the last name. But he's

567
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 4: not big and he's not a great athlete. Yeah, that's

568
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 4: gonna be the you know that's problematic, right, Yeah. Ford

569
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 4: seems to have buzz. Yeah. Yeah.

570
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: The Texas defense. Yeah, a couple of defensive tackles and

571
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: the linebacker that are up there.

572
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 4: That highly saw it after Yeah, and.

573
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: You always have to ask yourself in those kind of situations.

574
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: I can remember when the Steelers drafted Kendrew Bell and

575
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: he was playing on that Georgia defense behind Stroud and

576
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: uh yeah, who was.

577
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 4: The other one? Seymour?

578
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: So he gets surround and Steamour in front of your

579
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: This linebacker. Is the linebacker good because he's good? Where's

580
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 2: the linebacker good? Because he's never has he never has

581
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: to worry about anybody getting on him because those two,

582
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: you know, monsters are in front of.

583
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 4: Him, and even more recently is like the Kobe Dean

584
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 4: behind Jordan Davis and Wyatt, and.

585
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: The Kobe Dean has struggled a little bit.

586
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 4: Though he struggled. Yeah, and even Travon Walker struggled. He's

587
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 4: more of an edge down guy. But none of those

588
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 4: Georgia dudes front seven players have quite lived up to

589
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 4: their billing.

590
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: Yet you wonder if it's the collective right of what

591
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: they had there because they were so talent every buddy, Yeah,

592
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: you can't double everybody.

593
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 4: Somebody's gonna make plays. Makes me wonder, like was that

594
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 4: defense too talented to evaluate? Like almost the opposite is

595
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: some cases they really benefit from each other. I mean

596
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 4: there's no question about that. And they're always flash.

597
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 2: They all have talent on their on their own right

598
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: right right, But is it talent to where they were

599
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: drafted at exactly?

600
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: You get picked a little high? Like Walker is the

601
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 4: best example, Like, yeah, he flashes, but he doesn't look

602
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 4: like the first Yeah.

603
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: If you redrafted that that class, would he be number one?

604
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 4: I mean, Hutchinson would definitely go ahead of him. I mean,

605
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 4: if it's just that commerce, he might.

606
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: Be the fifteenth best player in that class.

607
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah he might be. I mean he might be,

608
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 4: you know, the tenth best defensive player if we talked

609
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 4: about it now. Yeah, yeah, there's upside, there's athletic ability.

610
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: But everyone on the front seven is better than the

611
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 4: people walking them. Yeah.

612
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 2: Looking at the defensive tackles, he is Byron Murphy one, uh,

613
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: jers On Newton two to and Andre Sweat three, Chris

614
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: Jenkins from Michigan four and then Brandon Dourius from Oregon five.

615
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 4: Okay, Oh that's lean though. It's yeah, yeah, Sweat. Sweat

616
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 4: excites to me. I don't get me wrong, but that's

617
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 4: a lean group because I don't think the Steelers a

618
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: gonna be involved with the top two. Yeah.

619
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 2: At the center position, he has Jackson Powers Johnson one,

620
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: Zack Fraser two, Mason McCormick out of South Dakota State three,

621
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: Bo Limmer from Arkansas four and Cedric van Pran out

622
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: of Georgia.

623
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 4: Does he called Graham Barton a guard?

624
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: I believe he calls Barton where does he have? He

625
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 3: calls him must listen a tackle?

626
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 4: Okay? And he didn't make the top five. He had

627
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 4: him at twenty one and he didn't make the top five.

628
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 3: So that does you tell you a little bit about

629
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: the tackle spot just real quick?

630
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 4: What's his tackle rankings?

631
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: Uh?

632
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: So he has alt for Sean hu Fa Waga, m

633
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 3: Geiton and then Latham.

634
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 4: Okay, interesting I heard someone just describe Latham that he's

635
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 4: built like a globe. Is that a snow globe or yeah?

636
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 4: I mean he's just this big, thick, round monster. He

637
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 4: is a monster. He's a monster.

638
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: I mean he is a massive power of humanity. Yes,

639
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: he's another one. I feel Oh they took it with

640
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: twenty fine is very and this is not a knock

641
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: on Max at all.

642
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: No.

643
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: Max is like one of the biggest human beings I've

644
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: ever been around, no question. I would imagine that Latham

645
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: looks very similar.

646
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 4: Yes, and no, I bet he's rounder, thicker, more powerful

647
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: per capita, you know what I mean where Max has

648
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 4: He's extremely long arms and huge hand prediction, is a

649
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 4: big feet and all that kind of stuff to But yeah,

650
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: I mean the height is much different and not the

651
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: Latham's short. But yeah, yeah he's a masher. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh that's gonna do it for the show today, Matt.

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Speaker 4: Okay, good stuff. About halfway through the combine process, here right,

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Speaker 4: we are. We will be drilled tomorrowmorrow, starting at nine.

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Speaker 4: We'll have some drills to take to start taking take place.

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Speaker 4: We also have heights wait, I would hope so we

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Speaker 4: also get omar Con tomorrow. Oh good good, Yeah, so

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Speaker 4: he is here in town.

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Speaker 2: He'll speak to the media tomorrow, so we'll have some

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Speaker 2: updates on all of that as well. But that's going

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Speaker 2: to do it for our coverage here today here on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio and Fox Sports Pittsburgh live from the

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Speaker 2: scouting Combine here in Indianapolis. He's Matt Williams and I'm

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