1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: stuff works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: I am your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: at how Stuff Works in I love all things tech, 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: and recently I did a live stream celebrating the tenth 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: anniversary of tech Stuff. I know I've been talking a 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: lot about that, but to me, it's a really big 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: deal to to be the host of a show that's 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: lasted ten years. And we did some question answer stuff 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: on that episode, and some people were asking me about 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: what it takes to start your own podcast, And so 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: I've talked a little bit about that in previous episodes 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: and kind of covered it in brief, but today I 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: really want to dive into this concept. What does it 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: take to make your own podcast? Let's say that maybe 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: you are interested in launching your own show. What are 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: the things that you need to think about? What are 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: the steps you have to take? How much work is 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: it to produce a show? And as it turns out, 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: the answer to that question is variable on a lot 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: of different factors. But the first thing I would say, 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: you have to do the most important thing by far 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: out of all the stuff you're gonna have to do 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: to make a show is to pick a topic or 25 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: a subject something that your podcast is about. If you 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: want to do the podcast about nothing, you're gonna find 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: it incredibly challenging to stick to a schedule time and 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: time again. It is just gonna be tough. Plus, you 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: want to have a good focus to give yourself direction 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: for producing the show. You want to make sure that 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: you are able to have a goal in sight. Not 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: only that, but it also helps when you're categorizing your 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: podcast because a lot of people find podcasts by going 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: into their podcatching application of choice to typically, Apple podcasts 35 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: is the grand daddy of them. That's the biggest one 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: out of all of the directories out there. But whether 37 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: you're doing that or Stitcher or Spotify or Google Play 38 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: or any of those things, chances are you're looking at 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: things like categories because you know what your interests are 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: and you want to look for podcasts that serve up 41 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: your interests. That's true for audiences around the world. So 42 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: if you are able to focus on your show and 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: give it a subject that you are going to reliably 44 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: be able to talk about week after week, that will 45 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: allow you to categorize your show and make it easier 46 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: for other people to find it, because ultimately, you want 47 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: people to listen to your show. Otherwise, why are you 48 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: going through the motions of doing it. You could just 49 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: talk to friends about stuff without ever having to go 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: through the trouble of recording and editing and publishing and 51 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: sending it to podcast directories if that were the case. 52 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: So presume presumably you want people to listen to it. 53 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: So finding a focus something you're passionate about already is 54 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: really important, and I think being passionate is is incredibly 55 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: necessary so that you will not lose enthusiasm for the 56 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: subject of whatever your podcast is, and it doesn't have 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: to be a specific thing. Like there's some great shows 58 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: out there. My Brother, My Brother and Me, which I 59 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: mentioned in a previous episode, is a fantastic comedy show 60 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: where three brothers give terrible advice from questions that are 61 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: sent in from the audience or cold from Yahoo answers, 62 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: and it's hilarious. It does have some structure and it 63 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: does have a focus in that it is this kind 64 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: of advice show for the modern era, as they say, 65 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: tech stuff. We focus on technology and its intersection with culture. 66 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: The Soundtracks show is all about soundtracks, movie music, and 67 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: television music and how that's changed and involved in the 68 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: influences that have gone into it. So picking your sub 69 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: act is uh is great, and being passionate about it 70 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: is even better. You don't have to know everything about 71 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: your subject. In fact, I would argue that for some 72 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: podcasts that makes the show even better, whether it's a 73 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: serious show or a comedy show. If it's a comedy show, 74 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: then the comedy can be in you not knowing about 75 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 1: a lot about whatever the subject is and learning about it. 76 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: But in a nonfiction or non comedy show, it could 77 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: be you learning things and then expressing that to your audience. 78 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: That's very much what tech stuff is. I frequently, if 79 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: I'm going into a subject, I might know a little 80 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: bit about it, but I never know enough to do 81 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: a forty five minute show about it. So tech stuff 82 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: is really ultimately the documentation of me learning about something 83 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: and then expressing what I've learned to you guys. I 84 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: think that's where a lot of the value of tech 85 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: stuff comes in. It's it's the excitement I get from 86 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: getting to learn something. So you don't have to have 87 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: encyclopedic knowledge about your subject. I'm not suggesting that if 88 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: you do happen to have encyclopedic knowledge about something and 89 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: not that very many people are talking about it, you 90 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: might be ideal for a brand new podcast. But yes, 91 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: step one pick your subject. Step two is kind of 92 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: deciding how you want to talk about this right, how 93 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: you want to treat your subject, not just what it's 94 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: going to be about, but what sort of format is 95 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: your podcast going to be? How many hosts are going 96 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: to be involved. Is it going to be a solo 97 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: host show like tech stuff? Is it going to have 98 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: multiple hosts and and it will be conversational in nature. 99 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: Is it going to be an interview show where you're 100 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: going to be recording interviews with various people, And if so, 101 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: how are you going to do that? Because that's going 102 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: to come into planning. Leader on also figuring out is 103 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: it going to be a nonfiction show? Is it a 104 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: fiction show? Maybe you want to talk about horror, for example, 105 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: and maybe you want to do a fiction show where 106 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: you actually create either a fictional horror story or maybe 107 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: you're talking about fictional horror movies. That is a very 108 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: different thing than a nonfiction show where you're really taking 109 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: a more a more methodical approach to discussing the topic. 110 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: Is it scripted? If it's scripted, that's going to add 111 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: more time. You're gonna have to write everything before you 112 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: actually record. But scripted ones can keep things nice and 113 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: tight and really again focused on whatever the subject is. 114 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: Or is it improvised? Is it something where you only 115 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: have a vague idea of what you want to talk 116 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: about and everything else just comes out during the recording process. 117 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: That could be a lot of fun. It could also 118 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: mean that you might have a lot of editing to 119 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: do once you're done recording. You could do the interview approach, 120 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: which again puts a lot of the pressure on the 121 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: other person. You have to learn how to be a 122 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: good interview or something that I'm still learning. Honestly, I 123 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: would not call myself a good interviewer at all. It's 124 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: something that I'm working on, but it's still something that 125 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm new to. Or is it conversational? Do you have 126 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: someone else sit down with you and you just break 127 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: down a topic. That's the way tech stuff started. Chris 128 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: Palette and I would do our research independently and sit 129 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: down and have a conversation. All of these are are 130 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: different ways of treating your subject matter, but it is 131 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: good to figure out which one you want to do 132 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: before you get started. You might also want to give 133 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: consideration to things like how long should an episode be? 134 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: How how what are you shooting for a lot of 135 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: people like to aim for that thirty to fifty minute window. 136 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: That's the way tech stuff used to be. Now it's 137 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: closer to thirty five minutes, but that tends to be 138 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: pretty good for people who are on commutes, so it's 139 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: a very popular length that people aim for. And this 140 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: also it's important for two reasons why. And you need 141 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: to figure out how long is it going to take 142 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: you to give your subject matter the treatment it deserves 143 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: per episode. Uh, because you want episodes to be long 144 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: enough to really tackle something, whether it's comedy or nonfiction, 145 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But also it determines how much 146 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: work you're going to have to do, both in pre 147 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: production and in post production. Not only that, but also recording. 148 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the longer the episode is, the more 149 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: time you're going to be spending speaking into a microphone. 150 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: So unless you're just uploading as you record, in other words, 151 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: you're doing no post production editing at all. Your shows 152 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: are going to take some time to edit and publish, 153 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: and the longer the show, obviously, the longer that process becomes. 154 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: And it can be more than just linear. Right, recording 155 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: a half hour show and then editing it and then 156 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: publishing it does not necessarily take uh half the time 157 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: of recording, writing, recording, and editing and publishing an hour 158 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: long show. That can actually take longer, especially depending if 159 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: you're if you're not proficient in editing yet, if you're 160 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: just starting out, longer shows are going to take you 161 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: much longer to edit. So let's say like typically for me, 162 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: I would say that it would take me about one 163 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: and a half times as long to edit a show 164 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: as it took to record the show. So for a 165 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: half hour show, it would take three quarters of an 166 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: hour to edit it, but if it were an hour 167 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: long show, then it would take an hour and a 168 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: half to edit it. Um maybe maybe up to two hours, 169 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: depending upon how complicated the show is, and of course 170 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: the more people you add to it, the more editing 171 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: you may have to do. So the more complicated the show, 172 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: the longer it's going to take you to produce an 173 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: individual episode. And this is very important for you to 174 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: think about early on. And the reason for that is 175 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: every time you make a show a little more complicated 176 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: or it's a little harder to prepare and then to 177 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: do the editing and publishing on, you have created a 178 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: barrier between you and doing it again, because the harder 179 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: it is, the more you're going to feel disinclined to 180 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: record and edit and publish the next one, even if 181 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: you're really excited about the subject. So you want to 182 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: be careful. You want to know your limitations, and you 183 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: don't want to jump in saying, all right, it's gonna 184 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: be a four host show. Episodes are going to be 185 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: an hour and a half long, and we're gonna have 186 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: a whole lot of soundscaping. We're gonna have sound effects, 187 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna music, we're gonna have transitions, we're gonna have 188 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: all this stuff. I'm gonna add it all in post. 189 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: Because you're talking about a process where by the end 190 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: of it, you may be spending three or four hours 191 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: per episode editing it before you ever publish it, and 192 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: by the time it goes out, you're sick of it 193 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: and you don't ever want to touch it again. So 194 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: you want to be careful about this sort of stuff. 195 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: That's not to say don't be ambitious. You certainly should 196 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: try to be ambitious. And then, finally, one other thing 197 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: I think you should think about before you really get 198 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: going is how frequently do you want to publish this show? 199 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: Should it be a monthly show, should it be weekly, 200 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: bi weekly? Maybe you published multiple times a week. Maybe 201 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: you're crazy and you're you're publishing four new episodes of 202 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: your show every week, plus a rerun on Friday's. If 203 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: you're insane, that might be what you're doing. I don't 204 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: recommend starting out that way. But again, the more frequently 205 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: you decide you want to publish, the more work you 206 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: have created for yourself. And unless you are podcasting as 207 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: a full time gig, then you're doing this on your 208 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: off time, and the less free time you're gonna have 209 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: for other stuff if you're doing it more frequently. I 210 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: usually recommend to people to aim for maybe once a week, 211 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: but it is also important to try and stick to 212 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: a schedule once you've decided what it is. Uh So, 213 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: once you've decided what you can reasonably do within any 214 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: given amount of time, do your best to stick with 215 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: that as best you can, because it's a good way 216 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: to gain an audience. If you are publishing haphazardly, then 217 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: people don't know when your episodes come out, and people 218 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: are less inclined to to subscribe. So I highly recommend 219 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: you figure out how frequently you want to publish, and 220 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: then you stick to that as best you can. If 221 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: you start out and you find out that you were 222 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: too ambitious, it's fine to scale back, especially early on, 223 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: because people will get used to it once you've established 224 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: the routine. But it is good to have that timely, 225 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: predictable approach. So if you publish, if people know, hey, 226 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,239 Speaker 1: a new episode goes up by six pm every Wednesday, 227 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: then people have something to look forward to. If you 228 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: don't have that regular schedule, people never know when a 229 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: new episode is going to be out, and you'll start 230 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: losing listeners. All right, that's just the beginning of some 231 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: tips and tricks to starting your own podcast. We're gonna 232 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: talk more about this in just a second, but first, 233 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: let's take quick break to thank our sponsor. Okay, so 234 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: let's assume you've picked out what you want to talk about, 235 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, the subject of your podcast. Uh, let's say 236 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: that you've you've picked a topic that a lot of 237 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: people haven't really dove into in great detail. Because if 238 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: you do pick something that has already got a lot 239 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: of podcasts about it, then you also have to figure 240 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: out how do you differentiate your show from all the 241 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: other shows that already exist. That's really complicated too. Like 242 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: with tech Stuff, there are a lot of technology podcasts 243 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: out there. There are a huge number. Some of them 244 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: are very very hyper focused on a specific topic like 245 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: Android or Apple or things like that, or video games. UH. 246 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: There are shows that are dedicated to news. So when 247 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: we launched tech Stuff, we wanted to make sure we 248 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: were taking a different take on technology. We were really 249 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: looking at not just how tech works, but how it 250 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: interacts with us, how it shapes our culture and our society, 251 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: and how that changes over time. Because that's really fascinating 252 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: to me, and it goes beyond telling news, which is 253 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: really useful. There's some great tech news podcasts out there, 254 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: and they're entertaining their informative and it really helps if 255 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: you want to stay up to date on what's happening 256 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: in the world of technology. But I knew that I 257 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: could not do that better than UH podcasts like This 258 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: Weekend Tech or at the time se nets buzz out loud. 259 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: But today I would say things like daily tech news show. Uh, 260 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: those kind of shows. I knew I couldn't do it 261 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: as well as as those guys do it, So I 262 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: chose a different route for tech stuff. Same thing should 263 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: be true for your show. If you're going into something 264 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: that has a lot of podcasts about that subject matter 265 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: out there already, you need to figure out something that 266 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,479 Speaker 1: differentiates yours. Moving beyond those basics like the idea of 267 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: of struck sure and subject matter and all that kind 268 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: of stuff, let's talk about actual tech. What do you need? 269 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: What stuff do you need in order to record a show? Well, 270 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna need a microphone. That's a big one. 271 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: Although I guess you could if you really wanted to 272 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: use something as simple as a phone to record stuff. 273 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: But the quality is going to be fairly low. Now, 274 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: sound recording quality, you actually have a lot of leniency 275 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: in this. There's you don't have to have the best 276 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: sounding quality audio out there in order to do well 277 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: in podcasting, although it helps, um if it's if it's 278 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: really bad, it's distracting. If you've got a lot of 279 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: hiss or hum, If there's a lot of distortion in 280 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: the voice. Then that ends up being kind of a 281 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: a detractor from the quality of your show. So getting 282 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: a decent microphone is not a bad idea. And by 283 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: decent I don't necessarily mean super expensive. I mean you 284 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: can go crazy. If you've got the money and you 285 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: want to have a killer audio recording setup, you can 286 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: go and do it. But I don't think it's absolutely 287 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: necessary to get a good sounding podcast out there. Uh, 288 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: it is important for you to educate yourself about microphones. 289 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: There are lots of different kinds. For example, you have 290 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: dynamic versus condenser mikes. Dynamic microphones tend to be directional. 291 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: That means that you kind of have to speak into 292 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: them pretty much dead on to get really good sound. 293 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: They don't pick up sound from outside of a cone 294 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: that kind of extends out from where the end of 295 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: the microphone is, so you have to have it positioned 296 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: in such a way that you're talking into it. They 297 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: also tend to present a more warm tone, which you 298 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: could describe as being a little less crisp than condenser mikes. 299 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: Condensers do tend to be very crisp. They create bright tones, 300 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: but they are also really good at picking up a 301 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: lot of ambient noise, and that could be a pain. 302 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: So if you've got a really good condenser microphone, it 303 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: might pick up little sounds and and pick them up 304 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: right into the recording, and it can be a real 305 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: pain to to get rid of those. I remember I 306 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: used to use a condenser microphone for podcasts that I 307 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: was doing back at my house, and those you could 308 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: hear the clicking of my dogs toe nails as he 309 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: ran across the floor and he was in the other room, 310 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: and that was you know, I barely noticed it in 311 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: the room while I was recording, but you could definitely 312 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: hear it in the in the actual recorded audio. So 313 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: you can use either type. It all depends upon your preferences, 314 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: and it's not like it has to be a dynamic 315 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: over a condenser. You can check out reviews of both 316 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: and decide which which version meets your needs more. And 317 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: in fact, there are different reasons to use different ones. 318 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: If you're doing a solo host show and the audio 319 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: quality is really important to you, I would probably recommend 320 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: a dynamic microphone over a condenser. But if you wanted 321 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: to do a group show and you didn't want to 322 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: have a an audio track for each and every single 323 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: person that was on that group show, and you were 324 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: all in the same physical place. When you're recording, one 325 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: condenser mike that's located in the center of all of 326 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: you might be perfect because you'll pick up everyone's conversation. 327 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: It will be much more like the listener was present 328 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: during that conversation. However, you have to also make sure 329 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: that everyone's speaking at a pretty typical level, like the 330 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: similar level of volume, because you're not gonna be able 331 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: to adjust individual tracks of volume. Everyone will be recorded 332 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: on a single track in that case, So if you've 333 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: got one loud friend and one quiet friend, that ends 334 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: up creating this weird dynamic within the audio recording, and 335 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: listeners might find it off putting because they may feel 336 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: they have to turn the volume up whenever your quiet 337 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: friend is talking. But then when your loud friends starts talking, 338 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: they suddenly have their ear drums blasted out. So it's 339 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: a delicate balance that's a lot more easy to handle. 340 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: If every single person has his or her own audio 341 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: track within a recording, which you would do with individual 342 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: microphones or orcorded tracks that are coming in, you can 343 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: then adjust individual levels of volume in post if you 344 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: have to, so that's easier to do if everyone has 345 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: their own. You also have to figure out do you 346 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: use an XLR microphone or USB microphone and this this 347 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: involves the cable right the way the microphones plug into 348 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: other other stuff. XLR mix typically require an additional power supply, 349 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: and they have a cable that plugs into stuff like 350 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: external audio interfaces rather than directly into computers. They did 351 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: make some sound cards that could accept XLR cables, but 352 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: those technologies change pretty frequently. It's much better, i think, 353 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: in my mind, to get an external audio interface. That's 354 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: what we use here at how stuff works. We have 355 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: an external audio interface. The microphones plug into that, and 356 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: then that in turn plugs into the computers that we 357 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: use to record the audio. Uh. These are the devices 358 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: that will supply power to the microphone. You can also 359 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: find XL R T USB adapters, so you can find 360 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: an adapter that plugs in to a computer's USB port 361 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: and then on the other end it's the female end 362 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: of an XLR connector However, computers. Depending upon the microphone, 363 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: computers might not provide enough power to get a good 364 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: quality signal out of the mic, so you can record, 365 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: but the quality of audio is going to be maybe 366 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: substandard compared to if you had plugged your microphone into 367 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: an audio interface instead and then connected the audio interface 368 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: to a computer. USB microphones are way more simple because, 369 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: as the name suggests, you just plug the USB microphone 370 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: directly into a USB port using a standard USB cable. 371 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: So uh, some microphones actually have both options. The mic 372 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: I have at home is an Audio Technica USB xl 373 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: R microphone. I bought that microphone with my own money. 374 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: Audio Technica is not a sponsor. They have nothing to 375 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: do with this show. I just wanted to give you 376 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: the actual model I use. I like that microphone a lot. 377 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 1: It's really versatile because I can use it as an 378 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: x LUR mike if I want to, or I can 379 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: use it as a USB mike. It's a pretty good 380 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: budget microphone. It's not very expensive. It's less than a 381 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: hundred dollars if you hunt around for it. It's an 382 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: older microphone. It doesn't have all the features that newer 383 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: mics have. But I find that it's a really useful 384 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: dynamic microphone, and I think it sounds great in the 385 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: USB mode. It it sounds better as an XLR microphone, 386 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: but I think it sounds just fine as USB. Mike's 387 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: that tend to get really good reviews among podcasters include 388 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: things like the Sure s M seven B Dynamic Mike. 389 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: Sure is spelled s h U R E, the Hile 390 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: PR forty Dynamic mic that's h E I L, the 391 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: Keys Studio Series s L three USB condenser Mike if 392 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: you prefer a condenser, or Blue Blue makes some really 393 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: good USB microphones, including the Yeti. The Yeti has been 394 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: like a standard for podcasters. It's also incredibly portable. You 395 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: just have your computer and a Yetti microphone and a 396 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: USB cable, you're good to go. Uh. The Blue Snowball 397 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: microphones also incredibly portable and easy. We have one here 398 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: at the office. We use that whenever we're talking with 399 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: someone over Skype or something like that. There are tons 400 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: of other options out there, and there are no shortage 401 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: of review sites if you want to take a look 402 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: into this and find out which one is ideal for 403 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: your needs. Um But again, if you want to record 404 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people at once, just keep in mind 405 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: that means you're either going to need a setup that's 406 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: capable of supporting multiple microphones, so that each person has 407 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: his or her own microphone and thus their own audio 408 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: track in whatever recording software you're using. Again, that will 409 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: make things easier if you need to adjust individual levels 410 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: dynamically throughout a podcast, but it also makes it, you know, 411 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: more complex. You've got more actual audio tracks to deal 412 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: with in a single recording. Or you can go with 413 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: a condenser mike and record everybody in one swell foop, 414 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: as a friend of mine would say. But then you 415 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: can't do that that individual adjustment of audio tracks. Everyone 416 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: will be mixed together in a single vocal track unless 417 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: you're recording from other sources as well. Like if you're 418 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: doing a podcast where you are not sitting across from 419 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: the person that's on the show with you, maybe you're 420 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: using something like Skype or Google Hangouts or some other 421 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: voice over Internet protocol system and you're using a program 422 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: to record their version of it, or so you're either 423 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: recording the whole call and you're using that as your audio, 424 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: or maybe you're natively recording your track, you're recording their 425 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: their call over the internet, and then you mix the 426 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: two together. That's another way that you could possibly go 427 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: about actually including all these different audio tracks um and 428 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: and individually adjusting all the levels within that. That's something 429 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: else you could do. I've done that before. It's actually 430 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: a little tricky because you have to sync up the 431 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: individual audio tracks so that they match up properly. Otherwise 432 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: you'll have one person asking a question while the other 433 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 1: person has already answered it because the tracks aren't lining up. 434 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: But it is possible to do. I have a little 435 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: bit more I want to talk about with the stuff 436 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: you need if you want to launch a podcast, But 437 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: before I jump into that, let's take another quick break 438 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: to thank our sponsor. Alright, so you figured out what 439 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: microphone you want, you also need to figure out what 440 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: sort of recording software and editing software you want to use. 441 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: This is what you're gonna use to actually record those 442 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: tracks and then manipulate them afterward in case you want 443 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: to do stuff like take out mistakes or put in 444 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: elements like music or sound effects. Maybe you create a 445 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: standard opener and closer that you want to include with 446 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: every episode, and you don't want to have to record 447 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: it every single time, so you record it once and 448 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: then you create a template so that you can just 449 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: plug that right in to your your podcast These are 450 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: all things that are pretty standard in podcasts, and they 451 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: could be tricky to learn at first, but all it 452 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: really takes is some time and effort to learn a 453 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: software package. And there's lots of different options out there, 454 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: including a lot of really good free ones. So, for example, 455 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: Audacity is a free tool. You can just download it, 456 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: use it right out of the right off the download, 457 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: and use it to edit tracks like crazy. It's got 458 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: tons of built in tools. You can record into it, 459 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: so it's not just an editing software suite. You can 460 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: just record directly into Audacity. You can once you've done 461 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: editing it, you know, you can export things into different 462 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: file formats. It's got tons of different effects and filters 463 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: that you can add to a recording to to change 464 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: the the quality and the effect of that sound, and 465 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: you can do stuff like it's pretty standard among all 466 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: editing software. You can do something where you record what 467 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 1: is called room tone. Room tone is just the baseline 468 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: recorded sound that your microphone is picking up or even generating, 469 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: without you saying anything into it. So, um, here at 470 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: how stuff works. Before I start talking, we record several 471 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: seconds of room tone because that creates this this baseline 472 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: signal that then we can scan and use to remove 473 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: that from the rest of the episode, so that if 474 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: there is a hiss or a hum, maybe there's a 475 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: worring noise, something that is low level. It's not it's 476 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to take out all noise that's 477 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: generated in the background, but anything like that, it can 478 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: pull that out of the finished recording and you have 479 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: a much nicer, cleaner sound. Most of these software editing 480 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: programs i'm gonna talk about can do that, but definitely Audacity. 481 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: I know because I use it. Audacity is what I 482 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: have used at home in my personal projects. I use 483 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: Audition here at the office, but that is not a 484 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: free tool. So if you're really wanting to get into 485 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: some serious audio editing, then maybe something like Audition is 486 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: right for you. But Audacity is free. There's other ones. 487 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: There's osan Audio, O, C E N A U D I. Oh. 488 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: It's slightly less intimidating than Audacity is uh. There are 489 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: fewer bells and whistles, but still incredibly useful. And that 490 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: is a useful editing software suite. There is a program 491 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: by DVD video Soft called Free Audio Editor. It's important 492 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: for you to know it's from DVD Video Soft, because 493 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: there's actually quite a few programs out there called free 494 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: audio Editor, So the one that I recommend is from 495 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: DVD video Soft. It's also pretty easy to use, but 496 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: there are lots of others, so you can do some research, 497 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: find out things that are uh that look like you 498 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: could spend some time to learn how to really navigate it, 499 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: and the more you use the stuff, the easier it's 500 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: going to become. At first, when you're using it, you're 501 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: gonna be doing everything pretty much the hard way, unless 502 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: you just happen to have someone teaching you all the 503 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: shortcuts right out of the gate. But as you get better, 504 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: you start to learn shortcuts, You start to learn what 505 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: is and isn't important. You learn quick ways to do 506 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: things like mute a track. Let's say that you're recording 507 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: and interview with someone over Skype and at some point 508 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: you made a noise into the microphone and the person 509 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: on the other end didn't stop. They kept on going. 510 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: Everything was cool, but you don't want that noise to 511 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: go into the final recording. You can learn things like 512 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: how to mute that little noise so that it never 513 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: shows up and the audience is none the wiser stuff 514 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: like that. These are all things that these editing software 515 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: suites can easily do, and a lot of them can 516 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: also take in plug ins that can even increase the 517 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: functionality of the editing software suite. So it could be 518 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: a little intimidating if you've never used it before, but 519 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: it's stuff that if you just take some time, it 520 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: really is uh not that hard. And I say that 521 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: as someone who has done this myself, I do not 522 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: consider myself an audio engineer by any stretch of the imagination, 523 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: which is intimidating because pretty soon I'll be acting as one. 524 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: But anyway, it is possible to learn how to do 525 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: these even if you are someone like me, someone who 526 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: feels that it's a little outside of your your wheelhouse. Um, 527 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: once you've got all that down, you've got the you 528 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: know how the software works, you know how to edit 529 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: a show. You've edited your first episode, you feel good 530 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: about it. You've taken out all the ums and uz 531 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: which took you an incredibly long time, And you should 532 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: not do that because again, every time you start adding 533 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: things that you need to do for every episode, you're 534 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: increasing the amount of time it takes to produce one, 535 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: which decreases your incentive to make another one, So don't 536 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: go over overboard with editing. But you've done all this stuff. 537 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: You've put in music, you put in sound effects, whatever 538 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: you might have done. Now you need to figure out 539 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: how to get this out to a world. UM that 540 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: would involve getting a hosting service. UH. You could host 541 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: files on a website that you are operating. Let's say 542 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: that you go and you you register a domain and 543 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: you've got a website. You're using some sort of web 544 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: hosting service, maybe it's WordPress or something along those lines, 545 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: and you're storing files directly on there. You could do that, 546 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: but most often, if you start having a lot of 547 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: people downloading stuff. Let's say that your podcast gets incredibly popular, 548 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna find issues with your host if if there's 549 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: a lot of traffic going to your site. So most 550 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: podcasters will use a podcast hosting service, which typically costs 551 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: a certain amount of money per month, and the amount 552 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: depends upon which provider you go with and what options 553 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: you choose. So some popular UH podcast hosting services include 554 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: stuff like libs in podcast website, pod Bean, spriaker, that 555 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. They tend to have hosting fees and 556 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: those fees, like I said, are dependent upon typically how 557 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: much material you're uploading per month. So there might be 558 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: a limit saying like we will allow you to upload 559 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: this many megs of audio per month. Uh, some of 560 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: them might have a limit on how many how much 561 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: information can be downloaded per month, so you want to 562 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: pay attention to that. But there are a lot of 563 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: options out there, and a lot of them also have 564 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: unlimited options for pretty reasonable amounts like ten bucks a 565 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: month or something like that, And for that you can 566 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: upload your podcasts to the service. They will host them. 567 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: Whenever anyone downloads a show, ultimately, it's coming from that 568 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: source on the Internet. All the podcast directories out there, 569 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: like Apple Podcasts or Google Play, ultimately all they are 570 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: doing is pointing you toward that RSS feed that exists 571 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: generated by whatever the podcast hosting service you used happens 572 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: to be. So once you've got your podcast hosting service, 573 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: the new step is actually getting listed on various podcast 574 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: directories like Apple Podcasts or Stitcher or Google Play or 575 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: tune in or Spotify. And one thing I recommend you 576 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: do is once you've created your podcast on one of 577 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: these podcasts hosting services, typically you have to fill out 578 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of information the first time. You do 579 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: this all about your show. Once you do it once, 580 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: you're pretty much good. But it's important because these different 581 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: directories will pull information from your RSS feed to populate 582 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: their directory, and without that information, you may not get 583 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: listed in those directories, like Apple Podcasts in particular. If 584 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: there's information missing, you'll get an error message if you 585 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: submit it to Apple and they'll say, no, I'm sorry, 586 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: you don't have these fields filled in. You've got to 587 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: fix that. So most of these podcast hosting services have 588 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: that stuff built into their system and you just have 589 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: to take the time to fill it all out. Once 590 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: you do that, you can use a tool like cast 591 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: feed value a data dot com which will look at 592 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: your RSS feed. You just feed in the u r 593 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: L to your RSS feed into the service and it 594 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: will tell you if you have fulfilled the requirements for 595 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: various types of podcast directories, and then you need to 596 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: submit to the actual directories. Some podcast hosting services make 597 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: this easy, like Libson. If you wanted to submit directly 598 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: to Google Play, there's a way of doing that from 599 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: Libson's dashboard. So once you create your show, you can 600 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: use the dashboard to submit it to Google Play and 601 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: it takes care of the rest. Others, like Apple Podcasts, 602 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: typically you have to actually create UH an Apple log in. 603 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: You have to go to iTunes, go into the podcast area, 604 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: and you have to submit your podcast through there um 605 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: and again you submit it by copying UH the R S, 606 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: s U r L, pasting it into Apple Podcasts, and 607 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: then within a few days, Apple will review your submission 608 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: and tell you they or not you've been accepted into 609 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: the podcast directory. I really recommend that if you if 610 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: you only have to pick one podcast directory out there, 611 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: if you just you don't have it in you to 612 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: do this for the various outlets that are there, definitely 613 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: go with Apple podcasts because it is by far the 614 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: most popular way to get podcasts in general. Oddly enough, 615 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: not for tech stuff tex stuff. The best numbers tend 616 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: to come from outside of Apple Podcasts, but for most podcasts, 617 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: Apple is the way to go. With us it's through 618 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: all the other means are actually more popular once you 619 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 1: look at it, things like Android, you know, using Google 620 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: Play or Stitcher, Spotify or something like that, But most 621 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: of the time, Apple podcasts the way to go. When 622 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: you do this by the way. You will also have 623 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: to do things like create good album art so that 624 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: people can see it when they are browsing through the 625 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: different shows. You want something that's really eye catching and 626 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: uh engaging that the the album art represents the show 627 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: well and is fun and and attractive, so that people 628 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: want to find out what the heck is this show 629 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: that's connected to this logo. Same thing with the name. 630 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: You want the name of your show to be really 631 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: catchy and ideally somewhat related to whatever the show is about, 632 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: so that people kind of have an idea of what 633 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: they're getting into. It also doesn't hurt to record what 634 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: we call trailer episodes, which are just like a minute, 635 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: a half or two minute long episode that gives a 636 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: quick rundown on what the show is all about. This 637 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: tends to be called like an episode zero or preview episode, 638 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 1: so that people can just record the rundown, giving listeners 639 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: an idea of what to expect if they start to 640 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: listen to or subscribe to a show. And that is 641 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: in a nutshell, my guide to getting started with podcasting. Now, 642 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: there's a whole lot more we could talk about. There's 643 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 1: more advanced stuff that you have to start looking into. 644 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: For example, it's a good idea to launch a companion 645 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: website to support a podcast, especially if you want to 646 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: do stuff like show notes or links. Maybe you want 647 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: to do merchandise, that's another issue entirely. There's the whole 648 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: monetization process that's also very involved. But all of that 649 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: is is further down the line. It's not something you 650 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: really need to focus on when you're first getting started. 651 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: When you first get started, unless you just happen to 652 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: be lightning in a bottle, it's going to be a 653 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: very slow ramping up process. Uh, it might even be 654 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: distressingly slow at first. You might be one of those 655 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: people who say, the only person I know who is 656 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: downloading my show is my mom, and she doesn't even 657 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: know how to listen to it. I just know she's 658 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: downloading it. That can happen, but don't get discouraged. If 659 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: nothing else, just the process of recording and editing and 660 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: publishing the show will give you a lot of valuable experience. 661 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: And maybe it means that the podcast you launch doesn't 662 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: really take off, but maybe the next one will. So 663 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: it's it's good to develop these skills. And again that's 664 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: just one possible outcome and maybe that you're lightning in 665 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: a bottle and next thing you know, I'm gonna be 666 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: begging you to be on my show to give people 667 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: the real tips for how to launch a successful podcast. 668 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: Well that wraps up this episode. I hope you guys 669 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: found that discussion interesting and useful. From somebody who's been 670 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: doing this for ten years, it's been a blast, and 671 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait to keep on going out there and 672 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: recording new stuff, including new shows. There are gonna be 673 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: some new shows coming out of How Stuff Works soon 674 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: that will feature yours truly, and that's where I'm gonna 675 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: be doing a lot of audio engineering work. Like I 676 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, we will be editing stuff. In fact, I'll 677 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 1: be recording a pilot episode of one of those this week. 678 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: The week that I am recording this, wish me luck, 679 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: and then after that I get to edit it. So 680 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoyed this. If you have any 681 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: suggestions for future episodes, whether it's a technology, a person, company, 682 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: whatever it may be related to tech Stuff, let me know. 683 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 1: Send me an email. The address is tech Stuff at 684 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: how stuff Works dot com, or drop me a line 685 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,959 Speaker 1: on Twitter or Facebook to handle it. Both of those 686 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: is tech Stuff H. S W. 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