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Speaker 1: Command his family. This is the Next Man Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Brian Colbert Jr. And since we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be on prime time taking on the Cincinnati Bengals, we

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Speaker 1: had to bring in some prime time players. First up,

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Speaker 1: running back Brian Robinson Junr. Coming off of his career game.

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Speaker 1: He sits and kicks it with us and tells us.

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Speaker 2: What he's looking forward to in prime time.

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Speaker 1: Then the legendary tight end Rick doc Walker joins the

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Speaker 1: show talk about his favorite memories.

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Speaker 2: From prime time. Then you know what it's about. Time

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Speaker 2: to talk some fantasy football.

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Speaker 1: Matthew Berry, a longtime Burgundy and Gold fan, talks about

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Speaker 1: his favorite memories from being a Washington fan. All that

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Speaker 1: starts right now on Next Manuscrit So.

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Speaker 3: Nice twenty.

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Speaker 2: See Commander's family.

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Speaker 1: We had to bring him in because he's coming off

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Speaker 1: of a career game one hundred and thirty three yards

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Speaker 1: and he's just getting started off by swallowed already be

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Speaker 1: rob welcoming Brian Robinson Junior as our next man.

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Speaker 3: O brother, how you doing man? Good man, you good

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Speaker 3: brother man.

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Speaker 1: I love seeing that smile, man, It's something we have

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Speaker 1: seen all season. Let's talk about that career game. One

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Speaker 1: hundred thirty three yards. Brother, after everything you've been through

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Speaker 1: in your life, Man, how special was that moment for you?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Man? Special?

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Speaker 5: Man, like put in so many, so many hours, man,

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Speaker 5: so many hours of work. You know, just just show up,

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Speaker 5: get the opportunity to do that. You know, it's special,

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Speaker 5: you know. So I'm thankful, you know, to still have

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Speaker 5: the you know, the the opportunity to go out there

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Speaker 4: So, you know, I just expect to build off of that,

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Speaker 1: Now that you've been away from it for a couple

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Speaker 1: of days. It's been a few days since that since Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Is that your best moment in football so far?

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure that's my best moment. You know.

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Speaker 5: That was a great moment for me, you know, but

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if this is my best moment.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: I looked to, you know, make so many memorable moments

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sir, man, And we talked so much about that

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Speaker 1: duo that is you and Austin Eckler and y'all are

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Speaker 1: getting national love. I think Austin Eckler got like a

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Speaker 1: scepter for like a hard running you honestly were mentioning

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Speaker 1: that as well. Does it feel good to get that

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Man, find for people to finally start recognizing you know

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Speaker 5: what we got over here, you know, you know, obviously

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Speaker 5: it feels good. You know, you know we've been getting

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Speaker 4: You know it's great too.

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Speaker 2: Are y'all the best running back duo in the NFL?

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Speaker 4: I believe we are.

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Speaker 5: I'm a bet on us, you know, every day of

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Speaker 2: And have they really seen who be Robbie?

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Speaker 1: Have the fans? Have the national media? Have anybody really

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Speaker 4: Yet? I still don't believe?

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Speaker 5: So man, Uh, so much, so much left in the

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Speaker 1: And I don't think people realize too the type of

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Speaker 5: I just want to be the guy you know who's

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Speaker 1: Do you have to remind yourself that you're in that

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Speaker 5: I was, there's a weird transition because it's obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you set a great example every time we

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Speaker 5: You know I was interested to see how it's goal

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Speaker 1: And so many people talk about what you and Austin

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Speaker 2: What has he done for your game? Because you've played

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Speaker 5: Just him being himself, you know, is enough. You know

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Speaker 5: You know, even when he started making those plays that

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Speaker 4: So you know, excited for it.

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Speaker 2: And use the word pressure.

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna be on prime time Monday night Football

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Speaker 1: going against the Cincinnati Bengals. Is there added pressure in that?

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Speaker 5: Man, Like I said, Man, I got I've got, I

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Speaker 5: And show themselves man, like you know, all the lights,

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Speaker 1: Certain last question for you, Bero, what caing fans expect

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Speaker 1: to see from their Washington Commanders Monday Night against the

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Speaker 4: Man, I exped to see some some physical ball.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: I think the guy's gonna be pumped up. You know,

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Speaker 2: Over be It's always a pleasure. Man.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, brother, and I'll see you out there Monday.

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Speaker 1: Great to hear from Brian Robinson Jr. Now, our next

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Speaker 1: man up is a legendary tight end that won a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl for the Burgundy and Gold command this family,

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Speaker 1: our next man up is a true legend, a true

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Speaker 1: Washington icon. Play tight end won a Super Bowl six '

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Speaker 1: four monster still looking six fours, Still looking at all

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Speaker 1: of that six ' four.

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Speaker 2: Like to welcome into DC, Rick, Doc Walker, how.

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Speaker 3: You doing, sir? Happy to be a partner. How are you?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm so happy to have you.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: I know you're a busy guy. I know you're doing

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Speaker 1: a bunch of different things. So we appreciate you coming

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Speaker 1: on because you know, when we're talking tight ends. We

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Speaker 1: You're seeing Washington, You're seeing all these changes. You're seeing guys.

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Speaker 2: How does that feel as a legend.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's my fourteenth change over that since I been

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Speaker 6: This is nineteen eighty so, and you know, I do

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Speaker 6: because we lost our first five with Joe, and nobody

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Speaker 6: I'm a different breed dude. I won like in little league,

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Speaker 6: And so if you're not one of those guys that

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Speaker 6: team success. So I think that this new group is

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Speaker 1: Washington and Doc, we're definitely gonna talk about the current team,

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Speaker 1: but of course we can't have you on without talking

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Speaker 1: you've won on every level.

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Speaker 2: Let's take it back to when you came to Washington.

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Speaker 1: When you came to Washington, did you know that you

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Speaker 6: Well, No, because you don't know, but you're hoping that

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Speaker 3: From my hometown.

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Speaker 6: So in seventy two, they come out to California and

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Speaker 6: I'm in high school and these guys are super Bowl,

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Speaker 6: the Briggs on the team, and you know, Charlie Taylor

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Speaker 6: I remember the seventy two game where they beat Dallas

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Speaker 3: I watched every second of that.

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Speaker 6: So when you you know, you in high school, you

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Speaker 6: Marin White's father was the head chef there, so we

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Speaker 6: But they fell short, you know, and if Dolphins the

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Speaker 3: They correct. I mean it's nuts.

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Speaker 6: We went zero five people still at the airport waiting

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Speaker 3: They embraced us.

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Speaker 6: So when we start turning the corner, then it became like,

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Speaker 6: like every special team stars. Whatever you did, as long

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Speaker 6: you isolate yourself from quote to quote fans, everybody was together,

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Speaker 6: and again it's the thing I cherished. I'm so happy

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Speaker 6: because no matter how much how wealthy you get or

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Speaker 3: Then, just based on how the community.

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Speaker 2: Was You talk about all of these things.

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Speaker 1: You draw inspiration from your teammates, your coaches, You got

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Speaker 2: Talk about what inspiration that gave you?

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Speaker 1: Getting able to line up against guys like you get

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Speaker 3: They tell me, what did that do for you? Don't

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Speaker 6: He needs up the challenges, Reggie No, Steve, Curtain, Doomsday

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Speaker 6: and everybody, every level has its own challenges. These kids

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Speaker 6: Now if you and you know when you don't have

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Speaker 6: one because there's only four or five of them. Right,

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Speaker 6: there's thirty two teams. They talk about the quarterback and

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Speaker 6: I look and I look at this team, and I go,

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Speaker 6: looking at him and I try to look comparisons, I go, well,

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Speaker 6: World Grant. Who is this brother is heart and soul?

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Speaker 6: Hopefully put him in that ring where he deserves to be.

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Speaker 6: Brother went both ways, played center, play, defensive tackle. He's

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Speaker 6: if Grim's legitimate Hall of Famer, his sparring part World

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Speaker 6: Grant every day they bang in. So if your sparking

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Speaker 3: I'm going, are y'all serious?

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Speaker 6: Like Dexter and Jake every day, Charles Man and Tony

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Speaker 6: that's why I'm going, these kids don't get a chance

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Speaker 6: the development. So they don't get to know now till

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Speaker 6: They don't play in preseason those people, that's the decision

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Speaker 3: To play them. I'm old school. What's Andy doing?

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Speaker 6: We're playing well, okay, I'm leaning towards what the champions

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Speaker 6: This all this equipment they wearing. I'm you know, we'll see,

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Speaker 6: we'll see. But the game changing with or without what

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Speaker 6: The question is will they ever be able to cansel

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Speaker 1: And you did, and you did, sir, and you called yourself,

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Speaker 1: you said it, I'm been a winner my whole life.

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Speaker 2: And you also have been been here for a really long.

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Speaker 1: Time and during that time fourteen a lot of winning, right,

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Speaker 1: and has not been a lot of winning. So as

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Speaker 1: You put your time in what has made you stay

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Speaker 1: of the Burgundy and Gold, even though, like you said,

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Speaker 6: Well, one more now, I need one. I need a parade.

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Speaker 6: See having gone through the capitals and the Curly W's

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Speaker 6: You grew up on the West Coast, You'd always watched

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Speaker 3: I would go.

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Speaker 6: I've asked my mom, Mom, why do people live there?

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Speaker 6: Why don't they just move here? She was saying, maybe

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Speaker 6: But then you should grow up and realizing that some

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Speaker 1: But I think fans are hoping those glory days on

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Speaker 3: Far, well it is small sample size.

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Speaker 6: He He's got a gift and a gift that only

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Speaker 3: He's got a gun. We didn't get to see the

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Speaker 6: I do not want him to be Mike vick I

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Speaker 6: He's got that gift. Everyone remembers their first game, their

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Speaker 6: there's five times I throw it, you know, and then

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Speaker 6: the game's different. If the kicker makes a kick, the

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Speaker 6: game's different. Would a should have, could have? All words

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Speaker 3: So we saw it. He had a chance, didn't get

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Speaker 6: You know the conditions there. But that's the choice that

438
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Speaker 6: they made. They made the decision not to play people. Okay,

439
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Speaker 6: all right, so did you expect them to play sixty

440
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,959
Speaker 6: six plays or whatever and you've played none? Well, Bobby

441
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 6: Wagner did is short of amazing at his age to

442
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 6: have played every play and hadn't played at all, amazing,

443
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Speaker 6: But he's an amazing dude. But ten years ago he

444
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 6: might have had three or four more plays. But then again,

445
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 6: his knowledge of putting people where they needed to be,

446
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Speaker 6: We'll never know how invaluable that was so priceless.

447
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Speaker 4: Deal.

448
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 6: He got to get more help and they will. They'll

449
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 6: get it to going because they have no other choice.

450
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Speaker 6: That's what they're paid to do.

451
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Speaker 1: We have a prime time game. Was Monday night football?

452
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Speaker 1: You mentioned a Monday night football memory a little earlier.

453
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Speaker 1: Can I get one more walk down memory lane from

454
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Speaker 1: your favorite Monday night football memory?

455
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Speaker 3: Well, we lost.

456
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Speaker 6: That came with bad I'm trying to think a Monday

457
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Speaker 6: Night figured it wasn't a loss, No, no, I know,

458
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 6: I was trying to think. I'm sure it had to

459
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Speaker 6: be Dallas with us winning. Whatever it was Monday nights.

460
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Speaker 6: Monday nights are great if you're at home and you

461
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Speaker 6: win because you don't have to travel because you can,

462
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Speaker 6: you know, you get back at three or four in

463
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Speaker 6: the morning. And every time we would do that, the

464
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 6: crowd was still there for us at the airport and

465
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Speaker 6: at the park. People lined up waiting. That's the amazing

466
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Speaker 6: part about That's why sometimes people think it's it's not real.

467
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Speaker 3: And I just know that because they didn't feel it.

468
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Speaker 3: They weren't there.

469
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Speaker 6: If you fly in from Seattle or la or Vegas,

470
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Speaker 6: of where you're coming from, and they're grown behind people

471
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 6: in cars in Ashburn's three and four o'clock in the

472
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Speaker 6: morning with their lights on two horns, and you're telling

473
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Speaker 6: me you're not gonna watch film, You're not gonna lift what,

474
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Speaker 6: you're not gonna you're gonna miss it.

475
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Speaker 3: I don't know how you can do that. That's my

476
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Speaker 3: whole point about.

477
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Speaker 6: I would hope that this administration spends a little time

478
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 6: and I'm sure maybe they've done it, I don't know.

479
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 6: Make sure these kids understand the area, spend time teaching

480
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 6: them the history of the organization. Because the thing that

481
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 6: gets you hooked on this is understanding who's cheering for you.

482
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Speaker 6: This is the relationship unlike anything I've ever seen. Well

483
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 6: maybe in Green Bay has it. Green Bay has it.

484
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Speaker 6: It's a different vibe. And what it's no economics strange,

485
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 6: is no racial strain. It is something that I wish

486
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 6: the country could experience if we could ever get to

487
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 6: this as a country. What the birthdy and Gold Nation

488
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 6: provides for all of us that it loves, it'd be

489
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Speaker 6: a better world because.

490
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Speaker 3: This thing is unlike anything.

491
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Speaker 6: And I've been around and I've covered sports for a

492
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Speaker 6: long time. This is rare because usually they won't love

493
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 6: you unconditionally. But here, yeah, we and we experienced it,

494
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Speaker 6: and I hope that they will as well.

495
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Speaker 3: And the people are trying.

496
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Speaker 6: And now with the ownership and the management team being legit,

497
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Speaker 6: then it's all there.

498
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Speaker 2: Now.

499
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Speaker 3: Now we just got to wait.

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Speaker 1: He's got to wait and see, Doc. Thank you got

501
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: to wait, se man. It's been so great talk. So

502
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Speaker 1: you know, I can chop it with you all day.

503
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Speaker 1: I appreciate your inside the walk down memory lanes. Man,

504
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 1: it doesn't get better than that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that joy. Appreciate oh man, Doc.

506
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: It's my pleasure that it's honored. And my pleasure and

507
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: command is family. This is our next man up, Rick

508
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Speaker 1: d go c Walker. Thank you for your time and

509
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: I'll be seeing.

510
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 6: You so brother, always about winning, baby a man, hit

511
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 6: them doves.

512
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: Now command this family. Time to switch gears a little bit.

513
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: Since ban Rock put up such big numbers, we might

514
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: as well, bring in a fantasy guru for our next

515
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: man up. We had to get a national perspective because

516
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Speaker 1: we are on prime time this Monday night against the

517
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. Welcoming in a true diehard Washington fan. He's

518
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: a writer, he's an analyst, he's a fantasy football gurule

519
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: on the fantasy football Mount Rushmore if you ask me.

520
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: He's also an actor. You can even see in a

521
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: little cameo on Marvel's End Game. He does it all.

522
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: Welcoming in Matthew Barry. How you doing, sir, Rian, I'm good,

523
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 1: my friend, how are you?

524
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Speaker 2: I'm good.

525
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 4: Good.

526
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Speaker 1: It's good to see you again. You know, we talked

527
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: about this before started. We have a little history over

528
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: at ESPN. I got to work for you as a PA,

529
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: and so this is really cool to talk to you

530
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: again and we really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, listen.

532
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 7: You know there's a couple of easy ways to always

533
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 7: get me on a podcast, and one of them is like,

534
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 7: do you want to talk about the commanders? Yes, because

535
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 7: I talk about the commanders on my podcast, they talk

536
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 7: about the commanders in my real life. So anytime I

537
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 7: get a new audience to listen to me talk about

538
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 7: the commanders.

539
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: I'm down.

540
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: Well, since now you have this new audience, let's get

541
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Speaker 1: right into it. What made you a Washington fan? How'd

542
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: you become a Washington fan.

543
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 7: I grew when I was very young. Up until the

544
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Speaker 7: time I was twelve, I lived in Virginia. I lived

545
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 7: in Charlottesville, Virginia. My dad was a professor at the

546
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 7: University of Virginia. And so again you can sort of

547
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 7: see by my vintage, I've been a fan for a

548
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 7: long time. Like so I was there when I you know,

549
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 7: I'm five years old. I'm five years old, and I

550
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 7: don't know anything about anything, but you know, they're the

551
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 7: local team. And when I was like five or six,

552
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 7: is around when Joe Gibbs took over.

553
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Speaker 3: So I was there through the entire Joe Gibbs you

554
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Speaker 3: know there.

555
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Speaker 7: But I mean like I was, I was living in Virginia,

556
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 7: and I became a fan of the team during the

557
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 7: Joe Gibbs era, and you know, and the Hogs and

558
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 7: John Riggins and you know just uh, you know, Joe

559
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 7: Thaisman and Ken Houston and Art Monk and Darryl Green

560
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 7: and all you know, on on all the all the

561
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 7: greats over the years.

562
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Speaker 3: But that's how like it was just easy.

563
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 7: They were a the local team and b there were winning,

564
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 7: So it was you know for a little kid, Uh,

565
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 7: it was great and it just you know, the burgundy

566
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 7: new Gold got into my blood and it'll never leave.

567
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that it will never leave.

568
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: Because as much great as you've seen, you've seen a

569
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: lot of ebbs and flows with this team. But now

570
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: we're here, now we're in the Jaden Daniels Dan Quinn era.

571
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: How are you feeling about the team right now?

572
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 7: Look, here's I'll be honest, like so positive negatives.

573
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: Here's the positive. The positive is is that we have

574
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: a direction, right.

575
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 7: The positive is is that we we actually have hope.

576
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 7: I was on another podcast earlier today, I Swear to

577
00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 7: God and they asked me like.

578
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: I did a rant where they asked me.

579
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 7: About the person that I was that was hosting the podcast,

580
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 7: you know, made a reference and said, we're talking about

581
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 7: the news that Bryce Young has been benched by the

582
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 7: Carolina Panthers, and so this this host you know said

583
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 7: basically like a you know what a disaster is in Carolina.

584
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 7: They traded the future for this guy, and now they're benching.

585
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 7: I'm like, Wow, David Tepper is the worst pro owner

586
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 7: in sports.

587
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa? How dare

588
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 3: you not even clothes?

589
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: You know, when I went on a long.

590
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 7: Rant about all the things that David Tepper would need

591
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 7: to do before he was considered the worst owner in

592
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 7: pro sports, But what I said is, I said, Look,

593
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 7: I honestly feel like, and I've said this before, I

594
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 7: feel like, as a Commander's fan, I am playing with

595
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 7: house money because I truly thought that I was going

596
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 7: to die and Dan Snyder was still going to be

597
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 7: the owner of the team, and I as long as

598
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 7: he was the owner of the team, I had no hope.

599
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 7: We had no hope, I said, But now now I'm

600
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 7: you know, I am such a huge believer in Josh Harris,

601
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 7: in this in this ownership group, in the management. I'm

602
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 7: a big Adam Peters fan. And there's only so much

603
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 7: that Adam Peters can do in one year that Dan

604
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 7: Quinn and Cliff Kingsbury can do in one year. So uh,

605
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 7: I think the biggest issue that's always lagged Washington has

606
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 7: been quarterback.

607
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: You know, we screwed up Cousins. We screwed up the

608
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: the RG three Cousins thing. Again.

609
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 7: I blame Snyder for a Nable and Bruce Allen and

610
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 7: blah blah blah. But it's we've sort of been in

611
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 7: the quarterback desert for a long time. And I'm a

612
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 7: believer in Jayde Daniels. I think Jane Jayden Daniels is

613
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 7: going to be awesome. I jokingly refer to him on

614
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 7: my podcast as future Hall of Famer, future super Bowl

615
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 7: winner Jayden Daniels. So I'm a I'm a believer in.

616
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 7: I'm a believer in Jayden Daniels. It's gonna take some time.

617
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 7: We need to get him a better offensive line, we

618
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 7: need to get him some more weapons. But it's going

619
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 7: to take some time. But I'm you know, the raw

620
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 7: talent is there and you can see it. You know,

621
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 7: there's there's a specialness there that you can see on

622
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 7: certain plays, So listen. I ultimately think it's going to

623
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 7: be a long season for us, But that's okay because again,

624
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 7: we're finally building something.

625
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: We actually have a we have an ownership.

626
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 7: We have an ownership group that understands what it means

627
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 7: to own a pro franchise what it means to turn around,

628
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 7: to give patients, to give resources and get out of

629
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 7: the way and let the let people do their jobs

630
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 7: and not medal in the football stuff that you're not there.

631
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 7: We have a general manager in Adam Peters who has

632
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 7: built successful franchises before, and I thought we had a

633
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 7: great draft this year, right and so, and we have

634
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 7: coaches that have had success in the NFL, and so

635
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 7: I think ultimately, I think at the end of the day,

636
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 7: it's probably going to be a long year for us

637
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 7: and the wins and lost column, but I think we're

638
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 7: going to make progress and I'm very excited about the

639
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 7: future franchise.

640
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: Brian.

641
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Speaker 7: I have hope, and do you understand it has been

642
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 7: so long since I've actually had hope for this team,

643
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 7: And to me, that's the most exciting thing.

644
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: You talk about how optimistic you are about this season

645
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: and the growth you are going to see. What about

646
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: Jadi Daniels that you've seen while breaking him down, because

647
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: you have to break down every quarterback, what have you

648
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: seen that you like so much?

649
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 7: Well, first off, obviously just the pure athleticism, right, I mean,

650
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 7: he you know, he's just he's so quick, he's a

651
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 7: different level. Like there's some guys that are mobile, right,

652
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 7: but like he's he's from a pure speed standpoint.

653
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: He's Lamar Jackson.

654
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 7: He's got that kind of shiftiness, that kind of vision

655
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 7: in the open field, that kind of acceleration, right.

656
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: So I really like that. Also his arm right.

657
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 7: I mean, like you know, I like the fact a

658
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 7: lot of times you get these quarterbacks that are timid.

659
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 7: They either don't want to press the ball downfield that

660
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 7: you know, or they're they're nervous, or they just don't

661
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 7: have the arm strength. Like Daniels has a cannon and

662
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 7: he's not scared to throw it deep. I think, you know,

663
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 7: we need to give more, we give we have to

664
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 7: give him more time to develop play, you know, to

665
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 7: let plays develop, you know, because too often he's having

666
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 7: to bail out of the pocket and just run for

667
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 7: his life.

668
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: But you know, we saw it at LSU.

669
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 7: This is somebody that has you know, can throw it

670
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 7: deep and is accurate deep. And so the other thing

671
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 7: that I've just heard, again, I haven't met Jadan Daniels,

672
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 7: but people that I have talked to that have done scouting,

673
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 7: that have interviewed him.

674
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: That have talked to him.

675
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 7: They talk about his high football IQ, just how intelligent

676
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 7: he is in terms of understanding the game, being able

677
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 7: to read defenses. And so, you know, one of the

678
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 7: things I sort of pointed to when I was talking

679
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 7: the preseason, like I thought, whatever was like the second

680
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 7: play of his NFL career in the preseason. It was

681
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 7: supposed to be like a bubble screen or something like that,

682
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 7: and he checks out of it and throws like a

683
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 7: forty one yard pass to Diami Brown and like, and

684
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 7: dan Quinn said after the game just sort of like, yeah,

685
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 7: he wasn't supposed to do that, but you know, it

686
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 7: worked out kind of thing. But I thought, like I said,

687
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 7: you know, whatever, it was just it's a preseason game. Whatever,

688
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 7: But I said, I took a moment out of that.

689
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: Think about that.

690
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 7: It's his second play ever in the NFL. It's his

691
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 7: first preseason game, it's second play, it's his first series,

692
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 7: and he's comfortable enough in Cliff Kingsbury offense, which is

693
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 7: not a which is not like this, you know, basic offense.

694
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: It's a complicated offense.

695
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 7: But Jade Daniels and it's a new offense to Jaden

696
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 7: obviously because he's coming from LSU. But Jade Daniels is

697
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 7: comfortable enough in Cliff Kingsbury's offense that on his second

698
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 7: play ever, he checks out of the call play to

699
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 7: throw a forty one yard dime to Diami Brown And

700
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 7: I get it, it's backup. Defense has been up. But

701
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 7: still like it's like okay, all right, there we go,

702
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 7: Like he's picked it up that quick.

703
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: Like anyway, future is very bright with Jayde Daniels. Love

704
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: me some Jayden and Daniels.

705
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: And that's just a great way to read that, right

706
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: because again, how many times do you see your rookie

707
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: quarterback do that in his first drive with a brand

708
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: new offense, new coach, all those things. So that was

709
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: a great point. And to your point about him getting

710
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: comfortable in this Cliff Kingsbury offense, do you see Terry

711
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: McLaurin starting to break out more as Jaden gets comfortable?

712
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: Do you see him.

713
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: As as a valuable fantasy target a guy like Terry

714
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: mclaughin at this point?

715
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 7: I hope, So, you know, I mean, I think what

716
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 7: we need is we need somebody else to emerge in

717
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 7: this passing offense. Again, like the offensive line needs to

718
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 7: needs to play better. Give him some more time. Daniels

719
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 7: needs some more experience, but Terry McLaurin, pound for pound,

720
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 7: is one of the best wide receivers in the NFL,

721
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 7: and he is produced with a litany of quarterbacks throughout

722
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 7: his career in Washington. I would argue that Jane Daniels

723
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 7: is the best quarterback he's ever played with, and so

724
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 7: that chemistry will develop. I would personally like to see

725
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 7: Cliff move him around a little bit more. That would

726
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 7: be my you know, Cliff isn't asking my opinion, but

727
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 7: I'd like to see him move around a little bit more,

728
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 7: try to free him up, especially because at the moment,

729
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 7: we don't really have another pass catching option that you

730
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 7: feel if you're a defensive coordinator facing us, then you

731
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 7: feel like, oh, like you know, if you're facing us,

732
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 7: you're like, okay, let's figure out what we're doing with seventeen.

733
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: But like there's no one else that you're like, oh.

734
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 7: We got to make sure we got to stop Diami

735
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 7: Brown or you know, or Noah Brown, or like we

736
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 7: just we haven't developed that second pass catcher that's a

737
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 7: real threat yet. You know, I have high hopes for

738
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 7: Luke McCaffrey, But again, like until that happens, there's gonna

739
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 7: be a lot of defensive attention on mclauren and so

740
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 7: I think it'll be some inconsistent fantasy production until we developed.

741
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: That, but he would be my.

742
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 7: But I do think better days are ahead for that

743
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 7: for the Daniels McLaurin connection.

744
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: Definitely gonna take some time to see who that number,

745
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: that wide receiver number two becomes. But what helps with

746
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: that is our dynamic run game. We have a dynamic

747
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: duo in Brian Robson Junior and Austin Eckleer. I want

748
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: to focus on Brian Robson Jr. Because here all last season,

749
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: all we kept saying was give Brian Robinson Jr.

750
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 2: The ball.

751
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: All of us feel that he is highly underrated as

752
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 1: a running back and we're starting to kind of see

753
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: what he can do with more volume. How are you

754
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: feeling about Brian Robinson Jr. The way he's being used

755
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: in this offense this year?

756
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: I love it.

757
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 7: And honestly, if you go back and you read my

758
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 7: preseason love hate and you watch any of my preseason stuff,

759
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 7: I've talked about Brian Robinson on and on on and

760
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 7: everyone was like, Oh, Barry, you're a homer you know

761
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 7: what I mean, Like, you know, you know it's such

762
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 7: a homer call. And I said, I hear you. I

763
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 7: fully admit to my commander's bias, but I'm like, Brian

764
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 7: Robinson is not only one of the toughest running backs

765
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 7: in the NFL, I think he's one of the toughest people.

766
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 7: The guy was shot and six weeks later he's on

767
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 7: a football field. I mean like this, you know, I'm

768
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 7: not trying to make light of that situation, but I'm

769
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 7: just like, that's how tough this kid is. That's the

770
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 7: mental acuity of this guy, and you know, just the

771
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 7: physical prowess of this guy.

772
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: And I talked about the fact that last.

773
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 7: Year that one of the reasons I felt like the

774
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 7: organization was comfortable letting Antonio Gibson go is because Brian

775
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 7: Robinson showed he could be a three down back last year,

776
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 7: that he showed he could be not just a grinder

777
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 7: between the tackles, but that he actually had some nice

778
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 7: pass catching skills. And I said this in the preseason.

779
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 7: I said, one of my bold predictions this year was

780
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 7: if you go back and look at my bold predictions,

781
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 7: Colum I ten listed ten and Brian Robinson was on

782
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 7: my preseason love list and he was in my bold Predictions.

783
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 7: I was like double digit touchdowns were comming for Brian

784
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 7: Robinson said, Cliff Kingsbury, when he gets in close, he

785
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 7: actually likes to run. Like you go back to when

786
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 7: he was in Arizona, was the head coach in Arizona.

787
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 7: There was one year in Arizona where Kenyan Drake, Kenyon Drake, Brian, Yes,

788
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 7: Kenyon Drake. I swear to God, this is a stat

789
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 7: that blows people's mind, but this is a true stat.

790
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 7: Kenyan Drake was tied for the NFL lead in goal

791
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 7: to go rushing attempts. Now, who other than a crazy

792
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 7: person is just like, oh, we're on the one yard line,

793
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 7: we should give it to Kenyon Drake.

794
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: But Cliff Kingsbury is that dude. And he did.

795
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 7: And then obviously you saw all the success that they

796
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 7: had with James Connor the year after that. You know,

797
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 7: in fact, under Cliff Kingsbury, the Cardinals were top eight

798
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 7: in goal to go rushing attempts in the NFL over

799
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 7: his career in Arizona. And so I'm like, they getting close,

800
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 7: what are they going to do? Yes, you'll have some

801
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 7: options with Austin Eckler, who's terrific then scored a lot

802
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 7: of touchdowns in his NFL career, and obviously Jane Danielsona

803
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 7: is a threat, but you don't want to risk injury

804
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 7: to Jane Daniels. So a lot of it's going to

805
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 7: be Brian Robinson, who is so good at the goal line,

806
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 7: has such a nose for it. So I said, I'm

807
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 7: telling you ten touchdowns for Brian Robinson, and I think

808
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 7: he's got a shot at fifteen. We're off to a

809
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 7: good start already with him. He's I think he's fantastic.

810
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 7: I think he's so underrated. I think Brian the problem is,

811
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 7: and problem may not be the right word, but I

812
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 7: feel like if there, if there is one small issue

813
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 7: with Brian Robinson, it's a that the commanders just haven't

814
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 7: been that goods he's been with a team, and also

815
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 7: that his name's Brian Robinson. Brian Robinson's just sort of like,

816
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 7: you know, sounds like your apartment manager, right, you.

817
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

818
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 7: Like like if he had a cool name like Saquon Barkley,

819
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 7: you know, on chn you know, I feel like he'd

820
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 7: be a much bigger star he deserved to be a

821
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 7: much bigger star. But Brian Robinson's just sort of this

822
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 7: kind of pedestrian name, as is Matthew Berry.

823
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: By the way, Matthew Berry a very.

824
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 7: Pedestrian name, right, But like, you know, you know, give

825
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 7: me a name, like I'm trying to think of, you know.

826
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey.

827
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 7: Great name, right, you know what I mean, Like that's

828
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 7: a that's a that's a that's a great name.

829
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: You know.

830
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 7: Just think about any NFL player, Jamar Chase, that's a

831
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 7: great name. Austin Eckler, great name. Jayde Daniels, great name.

832
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 7: Brian Robinson is just like I like, I think I

833
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 7: went to people like, oh, yeah, Brian Robinson. Where do

834
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 7: I know that name? I think I went to college

835
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 7: with Brian Robinson. Yeah, I think I I think it

836
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 7: was my lab partner in chemistry. Like it just Brian

837
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 7: Robinson just sounds like, you know, it's just like whatever,

838
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 7: it's not a it's not a you know, it's not

839
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 7: a it's not a name that you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

840
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 7: Cooper Cup that's a great name. Iron Williams, great name.

841
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: You know.

842
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, I personally love the name

843
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: Brian b Robb, if you listen and just know, I

844
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: think you have an exceptional name.

845
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: I I'm just telling you.

846
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 7: You asked me why the guy is in a bigger

847
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 7: star because he should, because he's one of the best

848
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 7: running backs in the NFL. I love the player. I

849
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 7: absolutely love the player. I'm just saying it. I think

850
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 7: name you know, just it's also you know, again, if

851
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 7: he was on a better team, maybe maybe hopefully Monday night.

852
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: Hopefully Monday Night.

853
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 7: We haven't had that many primetime games right as well,

854
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 7: you know, so that's part of it as well, I think.

855
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: And those prime time games are where you can make

856
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: a name for yourself. So listen, move forward today and

857
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: talk about our defense. Because Cincinnati has some weapons on

858
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: that side on the offense. How can our defense capitalize

859
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: in prime time and make things a lot harder.

860
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 2: For Joe Burrow and company?

861
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 7: Well, our defense isn't good, Brian, But what I will

862
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 7: say is is that to answer your question, how how

863
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 7: are we gonna be able to do it? It's got

864
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 7: to be the defensive line. Our secondary is you know,

865
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 7: our secondary is our secondary. We have to press We're

866
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 7: gonna have to get to Joe Burrow quickly so that

867
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 7: we disrupt. We have to disrupt the pocket our defensive line.

868
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 7: We're gonna have to bring pressure. We're gonna have to

869
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 7: we're gonna have to be creative with our blitzes. And

870
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 7: we're just gonna have to get to Burrow as quickly

871
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Speaker 7: as we can so that we can't give time to

872
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Speaker 7: get Jamar Chase down the field. And I think also

873
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Speaker 7: we have to hope that t Higgins is out again,

874
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Speaker 7: and then we've got a you know, we've got a bracket,

875
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 7: and you know, we've got a double and triple team

876
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 7: Jamar Chase, and and like, if if we get beat

877
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 7: by Trent Irwin and andre Yoshavis, then so be it.

878
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 7: But but let's not let Jamar Chase beat us because

879
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 7: he can single handedly. That's to me, that's how I

880
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 7: would approach it. And I'm sure dan Quinn and the

881
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 7: staff are already hard at work on this.

882
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Speaker 1: And Matthew, of course, I have to ask you, the

883
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: fantasy guru, one of the best to ever do it.

884
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: So when you're coming in to week three, which commanders

885
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: should people start? Who are must starts going into that

886
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: frontown game. We've already talked about him Jayden Daniels and

887
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson. For me, I think you're probably still starting

888
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: Tarry McLaurin and hopeing there. I will say that in

889
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: leagues in where you know, if you're in a deeper

890
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: league and you're sitting here like, you know, I just

891
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: lost seven Ingram, you know I need a tight end.

892
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: Zach Ertz is getting more involved.

893
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: He had.

894
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 7: I thought he had a nice game against the Giants

895
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 7: as well, and as long you know, the issue with

896
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 7: Ertz is he health. But you know, I tell my daughters.

897
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Speaker 7: I have twelve year old daughters and I tell them

898
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Speaker 7: all the time. Brian, I say, listen, when you grow up,

899
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 7: I want you to find a guy that looks at

900
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 7: you the way Cliff Kingsbury looks at zach Ertz. And

901
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 7: then they're like, Dad, what are you talking about? And

902
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 7: they walk away and they roll their eyes. But you know,

903
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 7: that's my hope for my daughters is that they find somebody,

904
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 7: they find, you know, a life partner that looks at

905
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 7: them with the loving eyes the way that Cliff Kingsbury

906
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 7: looks looks at zach Ertz. So you know, zach Ertz

907
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 7: is out there a lot. And I do think he's,

908
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 7: you know, top twelve ish tight end this week. I

909
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 7: don't know that he's a must stard. I don't know

910
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 7: that it's a Fantasy superstar. But the tight end position

911
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 7: isn't that great, and I do think there's some decent

912
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 7: volume to be had there for zach Ertz. The other thing,

913
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Speaker 7: I will tell you and Brian, you tell me if

914
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 7: I'm crazy on this, But this is something I've said

915
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 7: on my podcast throughout the preseason. I said, I don't

916
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 7: know when it's going to happen, but at some point

917
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 7: this year, Luke McCaffrey's going to be a thing. Luke

918
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 7: McCaffrey's going to be a thing at some point this year.

919
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 7: I agree, So I have him stashing a number of

920
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Speaker 7: benches of my fantasy leagues. I wouldn't start a Monday Night,

921
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Speaker 7: but I do believe that Luke McCaffrey's skill set and

922
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 7: what Jane Daniels likes to do, I do think at

923
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Speaker 7: some point Luke McCaffrey's going to emerge.

924
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Speaker 1: And Matthew, to your point, that's a great analysis because

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Speaker 1: Luke McCaffrey is brand new at rode receiver. This is

926
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: only his third year playing the position. So you only

927
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: got to imagine how much better he's going to get.

928
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Speaker 1: And I got a feel and they have some packages

929
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: for him as Luke gets comfortable that are really going

930
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: to show his versatility and how strong of a player

931
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: he could be. For sure, for sure, Yes, sir, Yes, sir.

932
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Speaker 1: And I could sit and talk football with you all day.

933
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: I can't wait to update my fantasy rosters with all

934
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Speaker 1: this great information.

935
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Speaker 2: But I gotta let you go.

936
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Speaker 1: But one final question, and this is because I could

937
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Speaker 1: just tell how.

938
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Speaker 2: Much you love the Burganney and Gold.

939
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: Give us your favorite memory through all these years of

940
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: you being a Burgundy and Gold fan and loving Washington.

941
00:43:54,640 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: What is your favorite memory as a Washington fan? Three

942
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: jump to mine, Three jump to mine.

943
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Speaker 7: Uh I remember, I mean obviously all sort of the

944
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 7: Super Bowls, but specifically John Riggins against the Dolphins.

945
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Speaker 3: I think it was fourth and one.

946
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Speaker 7: You know, I'm a kid at this point, but like, uh,

947
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 7: like it was really important, Like this was a huge

948
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Speaker 7: play in that Super.

949
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: Bowl, and and and.

950
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Speaker 7: They go for it and Riggins goes off packle and

951
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 7: busts through the line all the way down for a

952
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 7: massive touchdown, which sealed the game, sealed the Super Bowl

953
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Speaker 7: against the Dolphins, and I just remember just like leaping

954
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Speaker 7: up and you know, this pumping the air and everything

955
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 7: that you know as a kid, and I.

956
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Speaker 3: Was just like so excited. So that moment was unbelievable.

957
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Speaker 7: Uh, the first game of RG three's rookie year against

958
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Speaker 7: the Saints. The Saints were heavily favored. Who knew we

959
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 7: were going to get out of r G three. You know,

960
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 7: we traded all these picks to move up. Mike Shanahan

961
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 7: was the coach we had, you know, but again, we'd

962
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Speaker 7: sort of been this quarterback desert for so long and

963
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 7: then RG three goes into Orleans and just cooks the Saints,

964
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 7: just cooks them run and pass and just absolutely smokes them.

965
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Speaker 3: And it was just like I remember after.

966
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Speaker 7: That, oh my god, we've got a quarterback and that

967
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 7: entire rookie year, like he was so electric and so

968
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Speaker 7: good an offensive rookie the year, and we make the

969
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 7: playoffs and then and of course, you know Dan Snyder,

970
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 7: a super cheap in the field is a disaster and

971
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 7: you know, ruins his knee and he's done forever. But

972
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 7: I know he tried to come back from it. But

973
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 7: like he was never the same player after that injury.

974
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Speaker 7: But but I would say, but just you know that

975
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Speaker 7: rookie year, especially for RG three, that rookie year for

976
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Speaker 7: RG three, but especially that game against New Orleans where

977
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Speaker 7: it was just like, oh, oh oh, this this kid's different.

978
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Speaker 3: This kid's different.

979
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Speaker 7: And and then honestly, the day it was official that

980
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 7: because it had been rumors and rumors and rumors and rumors,

981
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 7: but the day that it was official, Dan Snyder was

982
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 7: no longer the owner of the Washington Commanders. It was

983
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 7: official Josh Harris and his ownership group had taken over.

984
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Speaker 7: Because then I was just like, it's done.

985
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: It's done.

986
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 7: No more games, no more you know, any of the

987
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 7: the you know, is he going to sell? Is he

988
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 7: You're not going to sell? He says he's never going

989
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 7: to sell. And I was asking for more money. Now

990
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 7: he wants them to indemnify him from all the legal

991
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 7: problems that he knows he's going to have.

992
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah blah. You know.

993
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 7: That day, That day was like a Super Bowl day,

994
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 7: when you know, it was just like he's finally gone.

995
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 7: He's finally gone. We have hope, we have an actual

996
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 7: professional owner. We have an actual we have hope Josh

997
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 7: Harris lead us to the Promised Land.

998
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: Love me some, Josh Harris, and now we are into

999
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Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels era, which hopefully means we are closer

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Speaker 1: to that Promised Land. Matthew, I've had such a good

1001
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: time catching up what you were talking to you. I

1002
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: could do this all day long, but we know you

1003
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: are a busy man. But hopefully we can have you

1004
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: on the show moving forward as the season progresses, and

1005
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: as Jaden Daniels, Luke McCaffrey, and Brian Robinson Jr. Continue

1006
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: to explode with their fantasy numbers.

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Speaker 3: Anytime, Brian, anytime. Hello the Commanders, Hell Victory, Sir.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Matt Commander's family.

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1011
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,799
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