WEBVTT - Symba Talks "Results Take Time", Working With Dr. Dre, Label Switch, & More 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:05.120 Wait that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club Morning, 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:09.320 everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:11.360 are to Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.440 the building that Angela is already offering alcohol. Yes, well 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.439 he's already still drunk from last night. So you know 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:21.439 what they say that I'm taking all shots to do 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:24.320 another one. Come on, let's do Simba, ladies and gentlemen, 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:26.239 Let's do it. Man. Simba is one of the most 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:31.320 phenomenal lyricists rapping today. First and that is not an understatement. 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:33.800 First off, I got to send this shout out to 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.680 my dog because you've been supporting me for a minute, 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.279 and it's it's a lot of people that's, you know, 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.400 at your stature, that feel like they gotta wait to 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.680 something blow up to post it or support somebody. So 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.600 I truly respect you on another level, not only just 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.160 what you did for me, what you do in the 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:55.480 therapy community, your book, everything. I really got a lot 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.200 of respect for you YouTube. I respect what you do 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.600 a lot. And also my wiffle color a friend over. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:05.840 He's a legend in the game. And I saw Dave 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.360 Chappelle showing you a lot of love too. That's my guy, 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.280 that's my god. Dave actually brought me on stage. He 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.080 had me like rapping for ten minutes or one of 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:14.920 the specials. I think it's about to come out soon. 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.280 How you meet Dave? Just so. I got a friend 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:22.119 named Bum who I know through my homie cast and 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.640 he works with Dave a lot, and he sent Dave 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.640 one of my freestyles. So Dave had like this, uh 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.319 this premiere he was doing in Los Angeles. He was like, Mandell, 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.959 somebody come tell her nigga pull up. So I came 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.080 through and then we had a good night. We had 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:38.679 a few drinks, and then he went back to the 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.920 comedy store to do like a little private show. And 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:43.760 then I'm just sitting on side of the stage. He 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.640 was like, somebody, nigga come up here and rap. So 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:49.559 I went up there a rap for like ten minutes. 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.400 So it was it was dope shut out to Dave Man. 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:52.960 And it's not the fact that you just you can 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:57.240 wrap that. You always have socially redeeming value in your wraps, 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.280 Like there's always some content in that that makes you 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.800 think when you that big meatch line, when you say 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.800 big meat changed somewhere dope and Big Farmer Like god 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:08.200 d I got that from. I shouldn't even be shouting 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.880 them out because I'm giving them a free ad. Uh, 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:15.440 y'all seem Dope Sick Hulu. It's a show called Dope 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.160 Sick on Hulu and it's about basically how they created 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.200 oxycotton and it was showing how many people die from 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.040 how it was prescribed. So they was trying to basically 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.960 say that people was abusing the drug, but really they 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.000 was taking the drug to how I was prescribed to 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:30.920 them and people was dying from it in the eighties. 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.040 So I was watching and I'm like, these motherfuckers so 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.800 more dope than Big be the ones getting in troubles. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.560 I felt like I had a responsibility to say something 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.600 about it. So let's go back. Let's put because I 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.520 don't know who Simba is. Yes, sir, where are you from? 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.920 How'd you get into rapping? And you always say I 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.280 know they say that you you. I guess growing up 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.799 you love jay Z and Nas and Big, So let's 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:55.440 start from there. So, so where are you from? So 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.560 in front of the the Bay Area, front of the Bay Area, 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.160 and my mom was a real estate agent, so My 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.400 mom moved around a lot. She used to move around 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.760 from Trenton, New Jersey. I lived in Ben Salem for 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:09.720 a little bit, Um Atlantic City, Vegas, LA. So we 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.080 moved around a lot, and I would always notice that, 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.160 like Bay Area music, it would hit a ceiling like 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:19.400 it wouldn't really go past. So when I moved around 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.560 as a kid, I'm like, damn, Like, I start wanting 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:23.480 to write music and everything, and I was like, you 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.320 know what, I gotta make my music connect to everybody, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.800 and um being on this side as a kid, I 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.200 gravitated the whole a lot, just how he moved, the 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.440 things he said. I related to it, um big al 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.480 even sauce money. I used to listen to a lot 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.720 of money, you know what I mean. And that's just 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.480 something that I wanted to incorporate in my music when 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.640 I started creating for myself. What got you into rapping? 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.720 Because they said you were nice in sports? Yeah? Man, 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.440 I got caught cheating on my SAT test? How'd you 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.800 get caught cheating? We ain't gonna talk about that. I 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.960 had a nice young lady that was doing something for 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.920 me and we both got caught up. So I couldn't 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.840 I couldn't go play ball after that. So through that process, 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.320 I was sitting at the homie crib for a year, 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.280 um stubborn, not trying to listen to my coach and everything. 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.000 And I didn't even like my coach at the time. 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:17.880 I still think that Nigga was racistaasketball, But um yeah, 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.520 I just I was stuck in the crib and my 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.560 homie crib, and he had a studio, so I just 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.640 start rapping in his studio every day, and I fell 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.000 in love with music more than I did with basketball. 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:27.680 At the time, I got tired of waking up at 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.120 six in the morning going to shoot, so I was like, 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:31.520 you know what, I'm gonna just do this and I 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:33.680 just stayed at it, got good at it. I'm more 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.680 concerned about the young lady, man, what happened to her? 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.440 Don't don't talk about her. You gotta give her a 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.760 job or something. Man, she cheated on me. You were 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.440 cheating off. She could go to hill see all this 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.760 cheating down. So let me ask you this. So you 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.360 also wrote for a lot of artists too, right, So 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.119 what's your goal always for you to be the artist 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.599 or did you enjoy being in the background more at first, 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.320 my goal was just to get the job done like 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.640 it was. It was times I used to be in studios, 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.240 people thought I was just the weed man, but I 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.279 used to just come through with the weed be talking 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.280 to everybody rolling up. They'd be like, oh, that's the 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.440 weed man. They ain't even know our rap. So my 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.440 job was just like I always looked at it, like 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:12.919 do what you gotta do to get to where you 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.120 want to be. So if I had to write for somebody, 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.279 if I had to hold somebody bags, if I had 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.159 to turn the session up and just be the fun 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:22.919 person in the room, I was down to do whatever 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:24.280 I had to do to get to where I want 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.559 to be. So that's how I ended up writing because 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.120 a lot of people, you know, don't write their wraps. 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.560 So you know, I came in to write a lot 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.680 of rape people. You're surprised by that, the amount of 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.760 people I didn't write their own music, I would say, 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:42.479 what surprised me more was, um, people that can't rap 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:47.960 not writing their rapscause they got a good Yeah, That's 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.920 that's what shocked me the most. But at the same time, 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.600 as I'm learning this is a business, right, So you 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.960 got shows, interviews, you on the road sometimes you really 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.479 ain't got time to sit down and write, dog write 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.520 or goddamn day like that. So I had to learn that. Um, 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.920 just even for myself. I'm starting to look for writers 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:06.440 to write for me because I ain't got time to 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.040 just be sitting in the studio no more. You have 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.160 hooks and just ideas period. Yeah, not versus. I talked 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:19.320 to Quentin Miller last night. Shut up, man, I'm serious, 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:24.920 I talked to him last night. You're talking. No, I'm 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:32.479 gonna always write my verses. I just out everything. I 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.200 write everything, like all my verses, all my freestyles. I 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:38.400 write everything. But at the same time, it's things I 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.279 may miss. Somebody might have an idea or something that 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.120 I'm not thinking of, you know what I mean, And 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.760 if that could compliment me. It's a business. We need 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.240 to hit records. I just ain't trying to be freestyle man, mom. 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.359 And I'm so glad you said that, because I always 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.400 when I first heard you, right, this is a while ago, 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.880 I'm like, Yo, this dude is really dope. But I 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.440 hope he can make songs. And I'm old enough to 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.960 remember these super lyricists that we used to love day 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.719 freestyles on the coupe, mixtapes and everything, but then they 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:06.240 couldn't make songs. Where are they now? Where are they now? 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.279 Right at the end of the day, this is a business. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.040 People know I could rap, but I'm growing, and it's 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.520 like at this point, I gotta deliver records, you know, 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.440 And that's what we're giving them. What results take time? 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.800 This Friday is actual songs. I'm not just rapping on beats. 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.240 I'm rapping on records. I love the meaning behind the 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.600 title of results take time. Then you got songs like 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.720 Overnight and find a Way and Sacrifice. It all tells 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.800 this story of results taking time that you feel like 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:35.720 you're getting the results you're looking for. Definitely, Definitely. I'm 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.400 somebody that embraced the process all the way around. So 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.880 it's like I remember doing shows in the Bay I 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.000 had like three people in there. Moved la ain't nobody 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.640 knew me. I do shows at the Roxy be about 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.840 fifteen people in there. I just sold the Roxy y'ard 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:52.000 last month. Wow. So that was a real like accomplishment 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.239 for me because it was letting me know, like, Okay, 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.600 things is working and you're growing as an artist. Let's 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.640 just continue to get better. You go from a sound 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.320 like a own to go yeah you know, and so 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.120 first it's unknomber. Now the status is you are striving 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.320 to be the goat of all of this, and that 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.000 should be the goal for anybody that who wanted to 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.280 be second or third, or fourth or fifth. We all 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.520 in this to be number one. I'm sure when y'all 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:16.960 got in this game, you all didn't look like I'm 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.200 gonna be the third best person on you know what 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.360 I'm saying. Content media is like, no, I'm here to 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.760 be the best. That's that's what it's about. I was 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.560 gonna ask you with moving around, of course, rest in 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.960 peace to PMB. Yes, sir, we're moving around. You know. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.720 You said you were in Trenton, You said you were 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.880 in Vegas, you were in Atlantic City, were in California. 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:36.600 You've been in New York the last couple of days. 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.120 Talk to the people about New LA culture when it 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:44.400 comes to streets in Lafite. Sometimes I think people when 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.360 they go to La, it's sunny, it's beautiful, it's palm trees, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:51.720 it's nice cars, beautiful people, expensive stores, But they don't 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.560 understand that it's it could get nasty. So the first 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.679 thing you got to realize. I'm from the Bay Area, 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.480 So the first thing I learned about LA is it's 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.839 a different between LA and Hollywood. A lot of us 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.920 think Hollywood is LA. Hollywood is not La. That's Hollywood. 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.560 LA is something different. It's protocol. It's people you gotta 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.200 tap in with. You can't just move around LA thinking 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.440 everything's gonna be cool, especially right now. You know, we 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.240 just got out this pandemic. Niggas don't hit for that 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.440 PPP money. They didn't got them loans, they didn't created 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.599 a new lifestyle, got new cars and new cribs, and 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.640 they gotta pay for this ship. So everybody outside looking 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.400 for somebody to get So we as artists, we gotta 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.280 be more responsible about the things we do. Like security 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.839 only costs shiit three four hundred dollars, you know what 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:37.880 I mean, Like make sure you got a security guard 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.800 with you. I think when you say tapping, you know 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.160 that that term tapping has affected people for years, especially artists, 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.280 because niggas got egos, right, they got egos and too 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.560 much pride. But I'm never too pride for to protect myself. 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.480 I got a kid. I gotta get back home too, 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.320 I got a mama, you know what I mean. So 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.360 it's like I'm never gonna just be out here moving 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.200 reckless or doing things that I just think I'm free. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.000 I got ship one hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:03.880 for jury on. I'm not just feeling go. I don't 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.120 even know if you want to say that. I'm just look, 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.000 I wasn't wearing it last night at the Brooklyn jop out. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.840 That's right, you're in the interview. That's real. That's right. 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:14.840 That's what I'm saying. I'm gonna leave it the word 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:16.720 needed to be. It's like, I'm not trying to flex 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.200 on nobody to keep it real. I don't even like 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.200 wearing this shit. It's just like a rapper costume for real. 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.040 It's like a business card, you know what I mean. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.200 But I don't like wearing it because it's really kind 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.480 of like a symbol, like stunting on your own people. 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:31.920 It's like we get money to show people I got 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.160 more than you. It's like, I think that's some lame shit. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.040 I think I'm gonna stop wearing jury. I feel like 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:38.400 you're saying, you know what, I want us to start 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:42.000 flexing about, Like how many people were we were causing 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:43.920 to get the work, you know, I mean, how many 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.720 jobs are you creating backs for people? How many businesses 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:48.720 are you creating to create an opportunity for the folks. 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.280 That's what we need to start talking to backs, And 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.600 that's that's the most important thing. Like I got my 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:57.600 best friend right here. We've been together since forever, you 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.840 know what I'm saying. But it's like now he comes 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.440 the streets like the street streets. He didn't been in 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.719 a lot of ship jail, he'd been shot everything, but 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.400 his mind on being an executive now, you know what 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:08.960 I mean. He was in the room last night with 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.480 Julie Greenwald, you know what I mean, talking to Mike 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.200 Kaiser now, So it's it's different, Like that's the goal 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.319 is for us to make it out of these circumstances 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.080 to provide more opportunities for the people we around and 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.840 people we could bring up as well. Atlantic records that 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:25.160 you just brought up, right, yes, um, so before that 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:29.439 you were signed to Columbia. It was terrible, all right? 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.240 What makes it terrible? And what made you feel like, Okay, 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.559 I'm ready to sign to another major Because sometimes people 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.079 do a major label deal, they get so turned off 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.480 They're like, I'm not doing that again. So how did 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.240 you know that was the right situation? And what was 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.600 terrible about Columbia? So when you when you're a new artist, 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.480 like this ship don't come with no brochure, so the 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.360 only way for you to get the information is to 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:53.880 fuck up a little bit. So when I could, I customer. Okay. 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.480 So when I first got my deal, I realized fast 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.720 like I'm not a priority, and I played this room. 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.640 So I got my advance and I blew my money 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.720 like in like three weeks old people. I had to 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.560 pay certain things back when bar closed, when and bought 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:15.480 a Maserati, when and got a new apartment. Everything. It 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:23.240 was nice that it was nice, But at the same time, 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.480 what I was supposed to do with that advance was 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:29.520 created infrastructure for myself. So when I got out of 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.480 that deal and I got my new deal, the first 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.720 thing I did bought a laptop, bought my cameraman a camera, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.240 hired a digital team, hired my own pr hied my 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.520 own people around me that could help advise me to 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.200 move forward rather than just spending the money on myself. 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.920 And I think it's artists sometimes we gotta realize, like 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.240 we just not rappers, were business right, and as a business, 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.959 you gotta run it like a business. You need people 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.240 and play to help you sustain where you're trying to go. 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.480 So that was one thing I learned. But also it 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:01.360 was a regime change, so I can't say it was 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.760 terrible because the people who brought me in was great. 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.680 They just had left at the time. They went to 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.920 a different label. So when they left, Columbia was going 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.400 into a new business model to where they only wanted 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.559 like TikTok artists, and they wanted like social media artists 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.200 and shit like that. And I feel like I'm a 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.839 word of mouth artist. I'm somebody that you gotta meet, 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:20.680 you gotta touch me, you gotta smell me, you gotta 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.840 feel me. I'm not just gonna get on there and 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:28.000 do a dance and then go up. So they ended 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.640 up letting me go. I was independent for a little while, 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.240 me and my homie trying to figure it out, spending money, 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.160 and I ran into Dallas Martin, and Dallas Martin kind 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.320 of changed my life for real. That's like the first 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.960 A and R that really like set with me and 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.160 gave me the game and be with me to this day. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.000 We was together last night till four this morning, and 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.880 he up at the office right now. That's my dog 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:50.880 shout out to Dallas. You know, I like what you 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.160 were saying earlier too, just about how you move as 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.640 an artist, saying saying it's okay to have security, because 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.800 we're a culture that literally bragged about being in the 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:05.640 hood with all our jewry on. With no security, yes, 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.839 we'd be bragging about the wrong shit, Like, um, it's 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.360 stupid to go around a bunch of kids and young 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.680 men who fighting for these things, like they can't even 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:17.800 really feed themselves, you know what I mean, and you 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:19.960 round them with this big ass chain that's gonna make 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:23.000 them feel some type of way. So you gotta protect yourself. 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.840 You ain't being no sucker or you ain't being dumb. 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.360 You know you're being smart, you know what I mean. 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.320 So you gotta protect yourself, like I have eyes, everybody 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.720 to get security, especially today, because these young boys today 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:38.440 like they different, they different, gonna run up on you 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:45.040 any place anytime, y'all. Seeing y'all seeing Philly, Philly, Reddit man, 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.560 I was just in Philly with will on Gilly, my 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.480 brothers Um, and they showed me this YouTube page called 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.080 Philly Reddit, and it's like all these kids that's just 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.400 like dissing each other and killing each other, like they 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.800 literally doing the police job for him, literally don't care. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.200 They grabbing like ring footage from people's doors, stopped showing 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.800 the person that walked the dude down four blocks. Then 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.720 it's like a whole investigation. Dan on YouTube, it's like, 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.640 we gotta we gotta do better, man, we gotta do better. 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.600 What's your thoughts on you know that this was big 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.200 in the last couple of months where artists they're using 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.000 the artist lyrics in court. I don't agree with telling 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.560 them on each other though themselves. So it's two sides 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.800 to that, right, Um, I don't agree with that because 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.600 at the end of the day, as a detective or 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.280 police whatever, you still gotta do your job. So I 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:37.240 don't think your job should be minimized to what somebody 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.800 saying in their song. Now, the problem with that is 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.200 if somebody actually dies and you get on a song 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.520 and say where this person died and what you did 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.400 and how I went down, that's your fault. That's what's 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.680 happening though, that's your fault. It's not like people. It's 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:54.360 not like they just listening to the wraps and saying, oh, 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.120 he just talked about killing somebody. Let's go it actually happened, 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.000 actually happen. It actually happened. So if it's actually happened, 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.160 and you can't you can't get mad at than people 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.880 because you're making it a lot more easier. But if 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.360 if they're using this against you and this is something 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.200 you was enhancing or something that didn't really happen, and 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.800 I canna understand where it could feel unfair. But at 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:15.920 the same time, if you're just getting on there just 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.160 saying what actually happened, it's like, bro, that's your fault. 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.680 I don't I don't feel bad for you at all. Now, 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.880 what's your relationship with stat quote? Because on the project, say, man, 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.320 you said he told you something that you wasn't feeling. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:28.760 I don't. I don't want to say, I don't want 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.600 to make it say it. I don't want to. I 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.040 can't remember what told me my music would never hit 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:35.040 And if I ain't have a gimmick, then people wouldn't 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.280 give him a ship. Yes, it's crazy how nigga who 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.920 ain't list to make you feel like you can't go 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:41.840 where you trying to get. Now watch that quote, get 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:45.720 that shot man, because stat and I got a love 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.640 for Stat. Right. It wasn't like me trying to like 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.160 tear him down or nothing. But at the same time, right, 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.920 he's an older black man and I was a young 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.400 black man, still a young black man, but at the time, 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.880 it's like, bro, don't just tell me where I'm going 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.200 wrong without giving me some advice on how to get 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.320 it right. You just tearing me down in front of people. 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.280 So we used to be in these offices and he 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.840 had just oh, you ain't got no identity. Oh you 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:10.679 need to grow your hair out, you need to do this, 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:12.679 you need to do it. I'm like, bro, why I 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.840 gotta do that? Like, what's what's another way we could 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.600 do it? You can never tell me. He didn't know 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.959 though exactly exactly, you know what I mean. So it's like, 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:24.040 don't put what happened to you on me, Like, help 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:25.920 me get it right as a young black man. Don't 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:27.560 just tear me down in front of these people and 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.680 ruined my opportunity because yours didn't work, you know what 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:32.440 I mean. So it was like I had to say 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.400 something about that because I feel like this the first 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.000 time in the world watching me, and I want them 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:37.760 to know what I've been through. So what's the connection? Though, 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.520 I was like, what's doing The Stat worked at the 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.600 label I was originally, yet before last he was at 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:46.520 Colombia Zan over there. Yeah, he had Little zan as 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.920 his artists. I used to imagine me coming in office, 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.400 rapping high wrapping. He got little Zan and you're telling 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.120 me what the funk I'm doing wrong? You got a point? 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:58.480 You know what I'm saying, bro, get it right. You 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:02.600 have to He heard that I heard recently. It ain't 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:05.120 but my boy sent it to him because he cool. 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.040 Was that he out there Marcus, but he sent it 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:09.720 to him and he felt the way. But it's like 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.040 I felt the way, you know what I mean when 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.080 he was putting me on blast in front of these people, 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.360 rather than like helping me trying to get it right, 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.639 he was just tearing me down. It's kind of crazy 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.600 Stack called he's a rapper rapper, so it's like, I'm like, 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.840 I thought I would feel like he would see you. Man. 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:28.120 Stat used to tell me I'll never sell a ticket. 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.680 I can't please that was talking like that. You ain't 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.679 got no identity. You need to learn how to do this. 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:37.400 You your clothes is terrible. What are you wearing? I'm like, bro, Okay, 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.360 help me get it right. Don't just tell me where 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.639 I'm going wrong. Help me get it right. Jo for Stat, 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:44.280 and I don't know the brother, but he might have 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.640 been That's what they might have been telling him, for sure, 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:48.800