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Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club Morning,

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Speaker 1: everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We

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Speaker 1: are to Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in

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Speaker 1: the building that Angela is already offering alcohol. Yes, well

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Speaker 1: he's already still drunk from last night. So you know

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Speaker 1: what they say that I'm taking all shots to do

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Speaker 1: another one. Come on, let's do Simba, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Man. Simba is one of the most

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Speaker 1: phenomenal lyricists rapping today. First and that is not an understatement.

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Speaker 1: First off, I got to send this shout out to

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Speaker 1: my dog because you've been supporting me for a minute,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a lot of people that's, you know,

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Speaker 1: at your stature, that feel like they gotta wait to

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Speaker 1: something blow up to post it or support somebody. So

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Speaker 1: I truly respect you on another level, not only just

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Speaker 1: what you did for me, what you do in the

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Speaker 1: therapy community, your book, everything. I really got a lot

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Speaker 1: of respect for you YouTube. I respect what you do

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Speaker 1: a lot. And also my wiffle color a friend over.

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Speaker 1: He's a legend in the game. And I saw Dave

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Speaker 1: Chappelle showing you a lot of love too. That's my guy,

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Speaker 1: that's my god. Dave actually brought me on stage. He

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Speaker 1: had me like rapping for ten minutes or one of

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Speaker 1: the specials. I think it's about to come out soon.

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Speaker 1: How you meet Dave? Just so. I got a friend

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Speaker 1: named Bum who I know through my homie cast and

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Speaker 1: he works with Dave a lot, and he sent Dave

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Speaker 1: one of my freestyles. So Dave had like this, uh

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Speaker 1: this premiere he was doing in Los Angeles. He was like, Mandell,

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Speaker 1: somebody come tell her nigga pull up. So I came

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Speaker 1: through and then we had a good night. We had

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Speaker 1: a few drinks, and then he went back to the

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Speaker 1: comedy store to do like a little private show. And

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Speaker 1: then I'm just sitting on side of the stage. He

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Speaker 1: was like, somebody, nigga come up here and rap. So

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Speaker 1: I went up there a rap for like ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: So it was it was dope shut out to Dave Man.

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Speaker 1: And it's not the fact that you just you can

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Speaker 1: wrap that. You always have socially redeeming value in your wraps,

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Speaker 1: Like there's always some content in that that makes you

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Speaker 1: think when you that big meatch line, when you say

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Speaker 1: big meat changed somewhere dope and Big Farmer Like god

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Speaker 1: d I got that from. I shouldn't even be shouting

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Speaker 1: them out because I'm giving them a free ad. Uh,

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Speaker 1: y'all seem Dope Sick Hulu. It's a show called Dope

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Speaker 1: Sick on Hulu and it's about basically how they created

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Speaker 1: oxycotton and it was showing how many people die from

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Speaker 1: So I was watching and I'm like, these motherfuckers so

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Speaker 1: I felt like I had a responsibility to say something

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Speaker 1: about it. So let's go back. Let's put because I

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Speaker 1: don't know who Simba is. Yes, sir, where are you from?

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Speaker 1: How'd you get into rapping? And you always say I

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Speaker 1: know they say that you you. I guess growing up

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Speaker 1: start from there. So, so where are you from? So

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Speaker 1: in front of the the Bay Area, front of the Bay Area,

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Speaker 1: and my mom was a real estate agent, so My

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Speaker 1: from Trenton, New Jersey. I lived in Ben Salem for

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Speaker 1: Because they said you were nice in sports? Yeah? Man,

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Speaker 1: concerned about the young lady, man, what happened to her?

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Speaker 1: cheating down. So let me ask you this. So you

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Speaker 1: what's your goal always for you to be the artist

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Speaker 1: my goal was just to get the job done like

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Speaker 1: job was just like I always looked at it, like

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Speaker 1: want to be. So if I had to write for somebody,

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Speaker 1: So you know, I came in to write a lot

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Speaker 1: what surprised me more was, um, people that can't rap

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Speaker 1: I talked to him last night. You're talking. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna always write my verses. I just out everything. I

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Speaker 1: And I'm so glad you said that, because I always

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, this dude is really dope. But I

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Speaker 1: remember these super lyricists that we used to love day

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Speaker 1: Right at the end of the day, this is a business.

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Speaker 1: People know I could rap, but I'm growing, and it's

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Speaker 1: And that's what we're giving them. What results take time?

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you with moving around, of course, rest in

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Speaker 1: peace to PMB. Yes, sir, we're moving around. You know.

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Speaker 1: You said you were in Trenton, You said you were

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Speaker 1: understand that it's it could get nasty. So the first

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Speaker 1: LA is something different. It's protocol. It's people you gotta

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Speaker 1: tap in with. You can't just move around LA thinking

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Speaker 1: just got out this pandemic. Niggas don't hit for that

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Speaker 1: PPP money. They didn't got them loans, they didn't created

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Speaker 1: for somebody to get So we as artists, we gotta

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Speaker 1: I mean, Like make sure you got a security guard

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Speaker 1: that that term tapping has affected people for years, especially artists,

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Speaker 1: because niggas got egos, right, they got egos and too

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Speaker 1: much pride. But I'm never too pride for to protect myself.

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Speaker 1: it's like I'm never gonna just be out here moving

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Speaker 1: though exactly exactly, you know what I mean. So it's like,

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Speaker 1: got power, he should be pulling up all the Yeah,

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00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 1: I watch you do it with people like you were

425
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,680
Speaker 1: giving people real estate game. You know what I mean,

426
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 1: you tell people where to get it right. There's a

427
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,160
Speaker 1: lot of people I didn't talk to this to say

428
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,160
Speaker 1: you Envy put me on this. So Envy didn't put

429
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 1: me on that. That's what we got to do as

430
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,879
Speaker 1: a people. We already like what we like thirteen per

431
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 1: senator population, so we already out numbered. So it's important

432
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,479
Speaker 1: for us to kind of like give each other the

433
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 1: information so we could get it right to move forward.

434
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 1: You talk about Dallas and how as an an R

435
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 1: he's really helped you a lot. So what are some

436
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,920
Speaker 1: things that Dallas told you that have helped you? Dallas

437
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 1: is like, first off, I don't think No. A and

438
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 1: R work harder than Dallas. Dallas, don't Dallas be at

439
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 1: the studio longer than the artist. It's times I didn't

440
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 1: went home and went to sleep and he calling me

441
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,880
Speaker 1: at five in the morning with a feature he didn't

442
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,120
Speaker 1: put on the song. It's times where he didn't told me, Bro,

443
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 1: you shouldn't put this in the video because you're gonna

444
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 1: come across this certain way. You shouldn't speak about these things.

445
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,199
Speaker 1: Say it in a different way. Having an identity, understanding

446
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 1: who you are as an artist, what's your message? Who

447
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 1: you speaking? To build your underbelly out first before you

448
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: chase a hit record. So imagine A and R telling

449
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,120
Speaker 1: you that when they usually gonna tell you we need

450
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: to hit, we need to hit, but atlantic they allow

451
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 1: you time to develop. So Dallas always gave me the

452
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 1: time to develop my family base and develop who who

453
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 1: I was, especially within the pandemic because I had a

454
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: big moment with the freestyles, Lebron posting me, Shaq posting me.

455
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 1: But I can't go outside and do a show. I

456
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 1: can't go outside and host nothing. I can't go meet y'all.

457
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I can't do nothing song.

458
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm stuck. So he had put me back in the studio. Okay,

459
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 1: let's move forward, Let's try this, Let's try this type

460
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 1: of song. People feeling this type of way in the house.

461
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 1: Let's make something for that. Let's do a freestyle for that.

462
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 1: So he's been with me like every step of the way,

463
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: just giving me game, telling me when I'm wrong, telling

464
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: me when I'm right, and I appreciating for that, and

465
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 1: I love never end up broke, you know. And on

466
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: that record, you know, the hook is money can't buy

467
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 1: back time, my nigga. Yeah, what does that line mean

468
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: to you? Like sometimes like sometimes we get money and

469
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: think we could go back and correct the things in

470
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 1: the past, right, but it already happened. So it's like

471
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: you gotta get that money and move forward and make

472
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: sure you don't make them say mistakes that you made

473
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: in the past. You can't. Just like most people get

474
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: brand try to go back and get the girl that

475
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: turned them down. Like nigga, she passed you. You know

476
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, She run around with Julio Jones, like,

477
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: go let her go, let her do. That sounds very personal,

478
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: No it's not. I'm just saying. You know, I'm a

479
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: time Brady fan, so I know you got Julio now,

480
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So shout out the time

481
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: of Julio Jones. But um, you can't go back in

482
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 1: the in the past and change things because you got

483
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: money now. But you could learn from those things and

484
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: let your money be applied to where it is you

485
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: trying to move forward to. So that's that's really where

486
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: it came. If you could buy it back time, what

487
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: time would you buy it back time in your life?

488
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: Would you buy Trying to build a relationship with my dad,

489
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: I never got to really meet my dad. My dad

490
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: went to jail when I was one, and he died

491
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: in prison, and he died on some like some jankie

492
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: shit Like we're still trying to figure it out, you

493
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I never really got like

494
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: a father figure in my life. My mama was like

495
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: both roles. So it's a lot that I feel like

496
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: I could have. Um, I probably wouldn't have been a

497
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: rapper if I had my dad in my life. I think, yeah,

498
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: I probably would have done something different. But um me

499
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: looking for a male father figure, I looked up the rappers,

500
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I looked up the whole

501
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: Hove taught me how to talk to women. Both taught

502
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: me how to represent myself, and I learned that from

503
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 1: hip hop. Um, but not having a dad in my life,

504
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: it kind of like hindered me a little bit. You know,

505
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: I didn't go to college. That's something I probably would

506
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: have did. Um. Respecting women a lot more, you know

507
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. Coming from the Bay, we kind of

508
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 1: come from this pimp culture, you know, and ogs tell

509
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: us do that. But it's like, man, that ain't it

510
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: ain't really the way we should be operating now here

511
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: as black men. You right, we did a lip service

512
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: live in the Bay, and let me tell you it

513
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: was wow. I the guys and us, like all of

514
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: us going back and forth. Ye just how they were

515
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: talking and how we were talking about it. It was

516
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: like a cultural thing. Yeah. No, we we got a

517
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: crazy uh mentality the way we kind of seat the

518
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: things in the Bay. Um. But I'm trying to like

519
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: break that cycle a little bit because we gotta we

520
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: gotta respect our people more. It ain't just about you know,

521
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: women or men. It's about us as a hole, as

522
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: a community. So we gotta respect our people more. I

523
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: don't think people should P and B Rock, you know

524
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: what I mean? Rest in peace, P and B rock.

525
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't think somebody should lose their life because they

526
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: gotta chain on, you know what I mean. You're gonna

527
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: grab this chain, get what five ten thousand dollars from

528
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 1: and spend that ship in two weeks and then you're

529
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: gonna be looking to rob and kill somebody else. Like,

530
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: we gotta put more respect on our people. And that's

531
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: only if you stay free, which I doubt's gonna happen,

532
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: which exactly trying to find out they're looking at all

533
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: the pun shops now to see who is going to

534
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: turn in this chain and try to get that just

535
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: made me feel like the cops don't have a have

536
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: a lead, which is wild for something like that to

537
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: happen in Roscols and the like with all them cameras,

538
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: they've got to go wild Roscos though, they say people

539
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: normally when they do that, they try to sell it

540
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: really fast. They're not gonna go to no pun shot.

541
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: But the problem is they'll sell it to somebody. Somebody

542
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: gonna say that they sold it to him. This person

543
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: gonna tell somebody, that person gonna tell somebody, and before

544
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: you know it, they caught up in an indictment. They

545
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: didn't lost their life. Yeah, I was gonna ask, no,

546
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: I'll go back to your father recause I'm glad that

547
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: you you said that because there's so many men that

548
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: are starting to have that conversation now about wanting that

549
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: connection with their fathers, you know. I mean I told

550
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: people all the time. First time I had to break

551
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: through in therapy was realizing that the daddy issues that

552
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: I that I had. And I'm just like, I'm just

553
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: glad that you're saying that out loud, because man, we'd

554
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: be backing like fathers are disposable. Nah, bro we eat that.

555
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: Like I just had a son, like my son two

556
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: years old, so I'll be watching him just do little

557
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: things I do. Um, So it'd be making me aware

558
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, let me not smoking my videos, you

559
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean, let me not drink so much

560
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: around him, Like, let me do certain things to where

561
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: he could look at me as a role model. I

562
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: ain't had it. I used to look to other men

563
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: for that. Like I remember when the All Star Game

564
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: in two thousand, it came to Oakland, and Um, I

565
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: went to the game with my cuddie h David and

566
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: his dad, right, um, and I was just watching them,

567
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, what I mean, Like he like, look, son,

568
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: we're getting autographs from like Kevin Gardonett and Shack and everybody.

569
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: But he running up on him like, hey, you could

570
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: sign this for my son? Who And I'm just like, damn,

571
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: I wish I had that, you know what I mean?

572
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: Like I wish I had somebody to do that for me.

573
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: But it was always my mama. And there's a woman

574
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: like they ain't in the sports, you know what I mean,

575
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: or like they've been in certain things we into as

576
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: young black men. So it's like it's only so much

577
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: she could tell me. So not having that in my life,

578
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: I feel like it it hindered me a little bit

579
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: to where I learned a lot of things later that

580
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: I had to unlearn what things I had to unlearn.

581
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: It I thought was the right thing you should do

582
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: because I didn't have a male figure in my life

583
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: to tell me that. So is that why you took

584
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: the name Symbol? Nah? That shit just came from me

585
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: watching The Lion King too much, That's what I mean.

586
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: Symbol lost move Fossil had to figure it out for sure.

587
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: Still never watch the Lion King. You never seen the

588
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: Lion King and she's never been to Disneylan. I went

589
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: to the play out of Pocket, but I just haven't

590
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: seen the movie. But you ain't never seen the movie.

591
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: And they got a new one. You ain't even seen

592
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: the new one. The new ones trash you out of pocket?

593
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: So why why why did you take the name Simbo?

594
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: What about that character resonated with you? Well, originally I

595
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: used to just watch the line King a lot as

596
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: a kid. So my mom used to work like three

597
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: different jobs. So I will always go to my grandma

598
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: house and I had all my cousins over there, shut Out, Sway, Kenny, Danny,

599
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: baby Al. I used to always be in Berkeley with

600
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: my family and um. I used to watch just the

601
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: Lion King a lot, and everybody to just be like

602
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: you little Simba, Like that's all you wanted to watch,

603
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: a little Simba. So that was my name. When I

604
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: was playing basketball, they'd be like little Simba. So when

605
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: I stopped playing, already had the nickname, and I just

606
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: ran with it. Wow, you know that movie is really

607
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: if you know, I wrote about this in the last

608
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: chapter in my book. It that's really the play of

609
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: the black person in America. You know what I mean?

610
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: If you watched if you watch the linking. But you

611
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: know what's crazy too, I'll be noticing, like he noticed,

612
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: like all Disney movies be kind of starting off with death,

613
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: like the character be dying in the beginning, and then

614
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: the kid just kind of be trying to figure it out.

615
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: Like I always wonder why that is. It's a good

616
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: story arc, you know, because you get stay especially in

617
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: the Lion King like that story in particular, like he's

618
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be king, like he was born to be

619
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: king King. It's like, yo, nobody taught him to be

620
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: that king, you know so, but once he was just reminded.

621
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: It was kind of like in his DNA, you know,

622
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: they figured it out. We're going always fine. Words came

623
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: out in the bay. Was the babe very supportive? Hell,

624
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: because you don't have a bait a babe. Man, I

625
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: went through so much, I say a line on the project.

626
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: Kar told me I needed a feature from Cafani if

627
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to support Canar. Was this program director in

628
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: the bay from the time, and um, like I said,

629
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: I would move around with my mom and I would

630
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: notice we kept hitting the ceiling, So I'll bring my

631
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: music up there, like yo, I'm trying to expand our salve.

632
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to touch every region. They'd be like, Nah,

633
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: that ain't it. That ain't it. You need something faster,

634
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: You need a club record, you need this. I'm like, bro,

635
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: that ain't who I am. You know what I mean?

636
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: We got artists to make music for the club. Let

637
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: me make music for when they own the way home.

638
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: Let me make music for when they're getting up in

639
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: the morning and going to work. And people just used

640
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: to like bash me for that a little bit, like

641
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: I was doing something wrong. But the people rocked with

642
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: me though, like the people in the bay always rocked

643
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 1: with me. It was just the politics that looked at

644
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: me like a weirdo, like I was doing something wrong

645
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: or breaking culture when I was just trying to expand

646
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: it for real. Put us on the who Kafani is?

647
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: Because I thought, you said, Ki, see how crazy that

648
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: is and shout out to Kafani. Kafani is an artist.

649
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: But like you just said, you don't even know who

650
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: that is. But when I heard that line, I was like, Kalani,

651
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: But they made me feel like I had to be

652
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: him to make it up here. So he's an artist

653
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: from the artists. Remember that song fast, like the NASCAR

654
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: NASCAR NASCAR fast. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, So they used

655
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: to tell me make records like that when I'm rapping

656
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: like this, everybody had it, they had because I'm filled

657
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: up feeling I'm fee they put me through it all.

658
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: Do you still write for other artists now? Hell yeah,

659
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: I can't tell you who, but yeah, I'm writing people's

660
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: freestyles now when they go to the radio. Is it

661
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: easier for you to write for other people than to

662
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: write for yourself, like to tell made up fictional things.

663
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: It's way easier because a lot of artists, like with me,

664
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: I have trouble making songs about nothing. So you know,

665
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: some artists could just be in there talk about their car,

666
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: how many women they got, how many shoes they didn't bought.

667
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: I have a hard time making songs about that. So

668
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: I'll be needing like a concept, what I'm gonna say,

669
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: how I'm going to approach this. And then for some artists,

670
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: like they just want some dope lyrics, you know what

671
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: I mean? So I just make a bunch of shit

672
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: rhyme and give it to him and they rock with it.

673
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: So who is your favorite MSS lyricists that you love?

674
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: To listen to now Future Future Future is probably my

675
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: favorite rapper ever. People sleep on Future so much. Remember

676
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: remember when it was having that Mount Rushmore conversation and

677
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: it was like Kendrick Drake J Cole, I'm like future

678
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: facts of the last decade facts, no respecting nobody else

679
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: for future change culture facts. And I think because it's

680
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: not the traditional way of hip hop, people look at

681
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: it as if he not lyrical. But he's very lyrical.

682
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: Like you really listen in detail what he say. He's

683
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: very lyrical, and it's a lot that I learned from him,

684
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: just slowing my pockets down, you know what I mean,

685
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: how to reroute my words in certain things. So shout

686
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: out the Future man. He definitely in my top five.

687
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: I ain't reach out to him. Four re gonna take time.

688
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: I see you got a key glout going. Then you

689
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: see Megan Stallion two fifty four feature. I ain't got that.

690
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: You got Roddy Rich, but I guess y'all understand that's

691
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: my dog. Though me and Roddy had a song before

692
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: this one, we just couldn't get the sample cleared, so

693
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: it never came out. But I've been knowing Roddy for

694
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: a minute, and he always just rocked with me. Like

695
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: Roddy was the one person that allowed me to like

696
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: have a course side seat to his success. So I

697
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: was in there when he made every season, you know

698
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I was in certain sessions Kifa,

699
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: which is a part of his team, that's my dog.

700
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: So I was able to actually see him go from

701
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: like nothing to a diamond record, you know what I mean.

702
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: And he allowed me to be in certain studio sessions

703
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: and everything. And the way the record happened was through Dallas.

704
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: You know. I had just came back from New York.

705
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: I was doing this what was he doing? Me? And

706
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: Drama was in the studio doing them the Gangster Grills.

707
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: I came back, I had this photo shoot that was

708
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: like it was like a twelve hour photo shoot. I

709
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: went to the studio, I was tired, went home, went

710
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: to sleep. Dallas called me at like four in the morning.

711
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: Roddy had just pulled up and he listened to the

712
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: whole project front to back. He was like, Bromby to

713
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: jump on this right now. And that's actually one of

714
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: my favorite verses on the project because he's actually telling

715
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: me what happens at the next level, you know what

716
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean. So he telling me, when you get your

717
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: Richard takes some time to process. You got to keep

718
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: it prolific through the progress, stay solid for your dog

719
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: on the foe yard, even if you pjed up with

720
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: the gold yard, you know what I mean. So like

721
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: that was that meant a lot to me, just because

722
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: Bro always rock with me, always rock with him, and

723
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: for like mom moment he gave me that verse. Who's

724
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: you connect with? Fronk? I know Roddy. Roddy was under

725
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: Nip as well at one point. So who you connect with? First?

726
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: Nipper ridycause I saw you on the Fax podcast The

727
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: Fuzzy and Q shout out the fuzz and que for sure.

728
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: I met Nip in like twenty twelve in Atlanta. I

729
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: met Nip twenty twelve. And this one, like, uh, cookies

730
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: first came out, y'all know, burning so in the bay

731
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: we had the cookies before anybody knew it. So Cookies,

732
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: if you ever smoke it, it got this distinct smell,

733
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: like you could just smell it. You could tell from

734
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: anywhere it said, you know what it is? And we

735
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta and we were smoking in the club

736
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: and then Nip kind of came over. He was like, hey, bro,

737
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: He's like, what what's that y'all smoking? You know, It's

738
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: like it's because he's like, let me get some of that.

739
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, boy, you Nipsy, I ain't about to tell

740
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: you know, weed, you got this ship? You feel me?

741
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: So uh, we ended up smoking. He gave me his number.

742
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: He was like, if you ever get back to La,

743
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: hitting me up. And I straight up live to him.

744
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: It was like, I live in La, live in La.

745
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: And he was like, all right, well hit me when

746
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: you get there. So I flew back to the Bay

747
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: like two days later, and my car was parked at

748
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: the airport and I got in the car and I

749
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: didn't even go home and get closed. I just drove

750
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: straight to LA. And from the Bay to lais a

751
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: six hour drive, so I just jumped on the road

752
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: to LA and I got through the grape Vine. I

753
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: texted him like, what's up, Broad, just landed back in La.

754
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: Let me do. He was like, we're in there to night.

755
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: Pull up. Pulled up. He had the studio downtown knocked

756
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 1: the verse out and he had this this wall full

757
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: of books right and one of the books he was

758
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: telling my cameraman demandre at the time, like, uh, pick

759
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: any book you want, and Demandra picked the twenty two

760
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 1: Immutable Laws of Brandon and that book changed all our life.

761
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: That's when I figured out how to sell myself right,

762
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: what my identity was, what I was gonna stand on.

763
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: So that whole day of just meeting him was like

764
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: a whole life changing experience for me. And then every

765
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: time when I moved to La I would see him.

766
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: He remembered me. He always showed me love. It was

767
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: a seven to eleven by the studio. I always see

768
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: him there. He be like, what's up, bro, You're still

769
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: doing your thing. I'd be like yeah. So he always

770
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: rocked with me. Man, rest in peace to Nip. That's

771
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: that's a real legend right there. You know you FaceTime

772
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: me one day, man and you you you put me

773
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: on the FaceTime with the super legend. Ain't even word

774
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: what what what? What? What's getting? That called me? When

775
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: Drake called you and say you'll come to the studio,

776
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: let's do something. Everybody shut up and sit down. Feeling

777
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: me could telling me I need to make a hifie record.

778
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: Let me do me but nah, it was special because

779
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: I actually met dre Um through key On, which is

780
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: his nephew. I met Keian at the studio session. He

781
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: was in the room playing beats, and I was somebody

782
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: that's like I'm open to everything, like my uh my

783
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: big dog that I'm signed to Donnie Meadows. He always

784
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: be telling me like, boy, you're too nice, like you

785
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: talk to Indie and everybody. Like it'd be interns in

786
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: the studio sometimes playing beats. I'll just come in there

787
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: and start rapping on their beats. But Keian was playing

788
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: beats and I just went in there and start freestyle,

789
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: and he was like, man, I gotta introduce you to

790
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: my uncle. I'm like, who your uncle? He like, doctor Dre.

791
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, come on, you know somebody knows somebody

792
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: that knows somebody to actually know the person. So I'm like, man,

793
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: come on, bro. Like He're like, Noah, that's really my uncle.

794
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, bet take my number. I give

795
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: him my number. The next day he faced time me

796
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: with Drake on the phone and dre was like, man,

797
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: I seen your La Leaker freestyle, Like I didn't heard

798
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: a few things about you, Like when I finished with

799
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: this Super Bowl, I want to get in the studio

800
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: with you. So I'm like, bet. So the super Bowl happened,

801
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: and I think it was two days later. It was

802
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: like a Wednesday or Tuesday or something. I was in

803
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: the studio with some people and Kean hit me. He

804
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: was like, want you to pull up? He sent me

805
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: the address. I ain't even tell nobody where I was going.

806
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: I think they thought I was going in the bathroom

807
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: or something. I just got up and I just got up,

808
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: drove straight over there. I still ye straight by myself.

809
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: I ain't bringing nobody over there. Hell nah. But I

810
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: went over there and I was over there for about

811
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: four days and we just was cooking, cooking, cooking, cooking,

812
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: and then everything he taught me. It's really what motivated

813
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: this project because I didn't really know where I wanted

814
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: to go with it. I knew that I wanted to

815
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: have some type of resemblance of like where I was

816
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: at in my career right now, right like I ain't

817
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: got no number one album, I ain't got no number

818
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: one record, but I'm gonna get it. And I wanted

819
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: to express what that feels like being in this moment

820
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: right now. So being around Dre, he kind of like

821
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: taught me how to act out my lyrics and say

822
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: things different. It's a song called king Win for Nothing

823
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: that Charlotta Magne told me the production sound cheap, so

824
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: he had to beef up the mix a little bit.

825
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: But I don't know, and I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

826
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: But it's a song on there. If you listen to it.

827
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: Before I was with Drake, I would have wrapped the

828
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: first lyrics like I woke up this morning with all

829
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: these starts in my head, jumped out the bed and

830
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: stuff my tone nage. But Drake taught me how to

831
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: say it like I woke up this morning when Harley

832
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: starts in my head, jumped out the bed and stuck

833
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: my tone nage so you can actually feel me hitting

834
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: my toe. He taught me how to act out my

835
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: lyrics and stuff like that. And he also taught me that,

836
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: like a lot of people, beats be terrible. And when

837
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: you get around him and we start hearing the beach,

838
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: he'd be like, damn, why do even wrap on these

839
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: other niggas? You know what I mean. But he's a goat.

840
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: That's what made Kim Drake so shout out to Drake man.

841
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: He always teach me a lot. He gave me a

842
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: lot of game. It be times where I'd be lost

843
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: on what to do in our text him when he

844
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: hit me right back, do this, do that? Say this?

845
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, be a man of integrity together.

846
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna kill me for saying this. Uh, they

847
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: don't do it. Now we're on the breakfast club, I'm

848
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: saying it. I think we got about six Okay, okay,

849
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: yea about six. You know what they're going I don't.

850
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: I don't let me ask you this. Earlier we were

851
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: talking about never change featuring Rowdy Rich. Do you feel

852
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: that people around you sometimes change? Because I know that's

853
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: a common thing. I hear like you, they'll tell you change,

854
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: but really he would treat you differently. Facts when things

855
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: start to happen. Facts. I'm going through that right now.

856
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: Like I got a bunch of people on that A

857
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: look at like all my attraction and all my movement,

858
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: and they just think because we're friends, they're supposed to

859
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: be there. But it's like grab a flight, you know

860
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: what I mean, put up, get here. As long as

861
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: you get here, I'm gonna make sure it's cool. But

862
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: it's like I can't just be funding everybody flights in

863
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: everybody room and everybody food right now. I know it

864
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: looked nice, you know what I mean, But that ain't

865
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: where were yet, Like everybody playing their role. That's why

866
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: I keep my dog with me. Feet he'd been with

867
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: me from the beginning, you know what I mean. He

868
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: ain't never asked for nothing. We've been rocking from the beginning.

869
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: But it's so many people that feel like because they

870
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: know you, they feel like they're entitled to get something

871
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: from you. And it's like, bro, like help me, don't

872
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: just always try to take from me, Like this is

873
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: a tough business. It's very tough. Like it's artists get

874
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: like what two three years at the MAC Sometimes yeah,

875
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: it's that bar like from that joint you got where

876
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: you be like um and when when when they want more,

877
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: you act like they act like you never did nothing. Yeah,

878
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: you could do everything for somebody. I didn't gave people

879
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: versus wrote them songs. And then they come to the

880
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: show and be like, bro, I don't want to pay

881
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: for no ticket. It's like, bro, support me, you know

882
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: what I mean, Support me, Like I don't look good too,

883
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: I got sell tickets. I got a booking agent. They

884
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: looking at how many tickets this nigga selling? You know

885
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like I wouldn't bring a bunch of

886
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: people to people, but they want to come with everybody,

887
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: get their people in free to make them look like

888
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: the man. So sometimes people be around you to really

889
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: benefit where it is they're trying to do. Yeah, you

890
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's something I'm dealing with

891
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: right now, just like learning like where to place people,

892
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: learning who could come and who can't. We going on

893
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: tour with Joining Lucas. Yeah and shut Out my dog

894
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: Joining shut Out Joining were going toward this Friday. It's

895
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: my first tour. Yeah, it's my first tour too. I'm graduations.

896
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: How did that even happen? Um? So, Joinder had hit

897
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: me back in June and he was like, UM, I

898
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: appreciate like you keeping bars a lot, you know what

899
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's very few of us that's like

900
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: really trying to stand on rapping. And he was telling

901
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: me he was getting ready to go on this tour

902
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: and um, if I wanted to come out, you know,

903
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: he was extending this in I'm like, hell, yeah, I

904
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: ain't never been on no tour, covid got in my way. So, um,

905
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: this is actually the first artist to bring me along

906
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: and share share his platform women. A lot of artists

907
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: don't do that. They feel like you're gonna you know,

908
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: still they shine or you know what I mean, take

909
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: from what it is they do. But he really extended

910
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: his hand and brought me on. He even offered for

911
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: me to go on his bus, you know what I mean.

912
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: When I was like, man, I'm about to pull up

913
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: with a couple of big niggas, ain't bringing all these

914
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: So it's I'm excited about this just to see, like

915
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: the fans, how they react to them music, when music

916
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: they liked the most. So I'm excited about it. And

917
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: are you and Larrussell doing a project? Man, because I'm

918
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what First of all, I want

919
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: to know what's in the water that got you in

920
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: the Russell sounding the way y'all do. That's number one.

921
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: First off, that's my dog. Look that dude, that's my

922
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: dog right there. I literally, um, anytime I'm in the bait.

923
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: What's crazy is Larrussell lived not too far from my mom,

924
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: So every time I'm in the bay, damn, I shouldn't

925
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: have said that because everybody be in his backyard now, right,

926
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: But every time I'm out there, I hit him, and um,

927
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: it's just motivating because it's like he really running a

928
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: business with his family. Like literally, like I went over there,

929
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: like they pressing up their own teas, they having marketing conversations.

930
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: They in the backyard, having rehearsal, and it'd be making

931
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: me wish, Like, damn, I wish I had this before

932
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: I was going to major route. But it was hard

933
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: for me to build a team because everybody was thinking

934
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: for self. He got a bunch of people that's literally

935
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: supporting him, like they wanted to see him win. I

936
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: had a bunch of niggas around me that just wanted

937
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: to see us win rather than see me win, so

938
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: we could all get the win. And Um, he just

939
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: inspired me. Bro, he like really inspired me. We've been

940
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: talking about this project. Um, I was actually supposed to

941
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: come to his residency that he just did, but I

942
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: had to, um go out of town and film this video.

943
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: But it's in his backyard. It's incredible, though, ain't It's incredible?

944
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: Like he literally just had like four hundred people in

945
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: the backyard that is crib. You know what I mean

946
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: that Tick gets and bought merch. It's incredible, especially for

947
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: a Bay artist. It's tough for us. And he went

948
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: through the same thing I went through. People telling him

949
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: you need this type of song, you need that. Certain

950
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 1: blogs in the Bay didn't want to post him because

951
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: he don't play into the politics. And he cut through.

952
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: He cut through, his music expanded. It was bigger than

953
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: the Bay. So we definitely, I don't know when it's

954
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: gonna come, but we definitely gonna gonna put that together.

955
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: We didn't talk to about it a few times. Um,

956
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: so it's it's gonna come. It's just you know, he

957
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: got a lot going on. I got a lot going on.

958
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: But once we get some downtime to really knock it out,

959
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna come together. Let's play a song off the

960
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: album and what you want to hear never change feature

961
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: Nahomie Roddy Rich. Here there is Simba's albums out. Don't

962
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: take time. I think they pick it up. Yes, sir, Simba,

963
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: you're going places my brother, Come on, man. I appreciate

964
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: y'all for having me. Um. Also, you know I always

965
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: tell y'all appreciate what you do with the Black Effect

966
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: Network because it's important for us to have black media.

967
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. We always get hot and

968
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: feel like we gotta run the other man, not the

969
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: brother man. You know what I'm meaning. So everything you

970
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: do from all the smoke to to every every podcast

971
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: you got, man, I salute you. Also salute you on

972
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: your future endeavors. I actually like one of your co hosts,

973
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it hurt later now you guys here,

974
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: yeah she she find it hell Um, you guys, shout

975
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: out to you two envy man. You you're a real

976
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: legend out here. Man. You got a lot of people

977
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: on the bait that always speak highly or you. You

978
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I got a lot of people

979
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: from Hampton that always talk about you. So you're a

980
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: legend man. And everything y'all do for this culture, you know,

981
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: for the last what I want to say twelve You

982
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean, We always, as young artists wake

983
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: up and watch this show, um to get information to

984
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: learn what it is we should be doing. I learned

985
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: a lot from this show. So it's a blessing to

986
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: be here. And I appreciate y'all for having me. Yes well,

987
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: Sember it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,