Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about
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Speaker 1: we just watched episode thirteen, which my brain still trying
Speaker 1: to process this episode because like, all sorts of weird
Speaker 1: stuff happened and they didn't necessarily tie together so many levels. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I feel like this was the episode where there
Speaker 1: was all this stuff left over on the board in
Speaker 1: the writer's room and they were like, Okay, well it's this.
Speaker 1: It's the winter finale, We're about to go on hiatus.
Speaker 1: Let's just throw all the rest of the stuff into one.
Speaker 1: This is the day after Thanksgiving sandwich of episode The
Speaker 1: crock Pots. The croc Pots episode It's Hanging by a moment.
Speaker 1: It originally aired February tenth, two thousand four. Breakdown is
Speaker 1: on their way to drive Karen home from the airport,
Speaker 1: Keith and Lucas have a collision with an oncoming vehicle,
Speaker 1: leaving Lucas unconscious and fighting for his life. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's like the last two seconds of the episode, truly,
Speaker 1: like so much other stuff happened. Yeah, so this description
Speaker 1: can be a little bit misleading. Um, do we want
Speaker 1: to go back to the beginning of the episode. I
Speaker 1: really hope you guys are watching along with us because
Speaker 1: I like to get into the minutia of this and
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you haven't watched it recently, you
Speaker 1: want to join. Yeah, yeah, tune in with us. So
Speaker 1: how does this one start? Hold on, I gotta go
Speaker 1: to my notes. I pulled up my notes, so we
Speaker 1: really dive into Dan. We talked. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: Camilla whitey Camilla stuff that probably was supposed to be
Speaker 1: in the pilot and all that other stuff and never
Speaker 1: worked in Well. The thing that's pretty crazy is in
Speaker 1: the last episode, Lucas and Peyton had this moment and
Speaker 1: Peyton says, ignore it. You know, it didn't mean anything.
Speaker 1: He says it didn't. She says, of course it did,
Speaker 1: but we're not doing this, And and this episode opens
Speaker 1: up with everyone in the hallways walking between classes, and
Speaker 1: when the bell rings in the hallway. Maybe is empty,
Speaker 1: maybe it's not. Lucas just kisses Payton in public at school.
Speaker 1: I have caught for what twenty years now for being
Speaker 1: a bad friend to Brooke, And like, I guess because
Speaker 1: I didn't really pay that much attention to the episodes.
Speaker 1: Once they were all cut together, I just accepted it
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yoh, yeah, Painting's the worst. She's a
Speaker 1: bad guy. And now that I'm watching it and I
Speaker 1: see how much Lucas is pursuing the situation, I feel vindicated.
Speaker 1: I feel better about the situation. They're really switching places
Speaker 1: Lucas and Nathan. Yeah, And I mean he even says
Speaker 1: it near the end of the episode. It was the
Speaker 1: first time that he ever said out loud that he
Speaker 1: had started the whole thing by messing with Lucas, because
Speaker 1: he had been saying to Haley this whole time, I'm
Speaker 1: a good guy. I misunderstood blah blah blah. You know,
Speaker 1: he was manipulating a lot of it and never admitted it.
Speaker 1: So that was the first time he slipped and said,
Speaker 1: you know, so that makes her feel like the whole
Speaker 1: relationship is based on a lie. And I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see where that goes well, And it's almost like now
Speaker 1: that Nathan is finally showing up and stepping up and
Speaker 1: being a good guy, it's it's almost like he's comfortable
Speaker 1: talking about what a bad guy he used to be,
Speaker 1: but it's the first time she's hearing it, and and
Speaker 1: he he almost is proud of himself, like a really
Speaker 1: good guy. And and it's isn't it ironic that now
Speaker 1: Lucas is the bad guy and he doesn't even realize
Speaker 1: that he has revealed what his first motivations were. It's
Speaker 1: especially hard to stomach too, because Haley just had a
Speaker 1: screaming match with Lucas about like what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: You know? And he's yelling at her about the whole
Speaker 1: Nathan relationship and she's like, this is apples to oranges, dude,
Speaker 1: we are not in the same boat and defends Nathan.
Speaker 1: So for him to turn around and be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that guy's the worst man. This did start off as
Speaker 1: a you know, as a joke. Um is painful. Lots
Speaker 1: of revelation. It's probably payback for you leaven him on
Speaker 1: the doorstep last episode with your Okay, okay, I'm glad
Speaker 1: Hayley finally gave it to lucas somebody had to give
Speaker 1: him a smack. That was so good, so good because
Speaker 1: you said everything we've been talking about and feeling that
Speaker 1: just the way he's behaving in this manipulation in the
Speaker 1: two times. And then he goes into a full gaslighting
Speaker 1: and tells you, you the honest friend who's told him
Speaker 1: that you know, who's really been there and who's who's
Speaker 1: been frank about her feelings and all of these things.
Speaker 1: He says, you betrayed me. You And it's like, what,
Speaker 1: it's so out of line? How many I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a there's a level of it that's a normal
Speaker 1: human reaction. Our pride goes up when we're in a fight.
Speaker 1: We don't want to be wrong. We want to deflect
Speaker 1: and put it off on somebody else. Okay, that's everybody
Speaker 1: does that in some form or another. Um, there's another
Speaker 1: level of it when it legitimate gas lighting and trying
Speaker 1: to make the other person feel like they're crazy and
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong, which I think this borders on, Like
Speaker 1: this is a little bit beyond just defensiveness. This is
Speaker 1: a full turnaround of like let's not talk about me,
Speaker 1: let's talk about you instead. And what I think is
Speaker 1: wrong with you. Um, And I love that Haley just
Speaker 1: didn't have it. She wasn't. She didn't get caught up.
Speaker 1: I totally got caught up in those conversations in real
Speaker 1: life relationships all the time, UM, when things we get
Speaker 1: turned around on me. And I love that Hayley didn't.
Speaker 1: She was just I love her. I love her, so
Speaker 1: I did when I was younger. Well, honestly, like when
Speaker 1: whenever Peyton was like kind of pursuing Haley as like
Speaker 1: be my friend, to be my friend, be my friend,
Speaker 1: it always felt like, Okay, well we've got we've got
Speaker 1: brooken Lucas and the scene. So we have to find
Speaker 1: a way to get these two other actors in another scene.
Speaker 1: And so we're going to just smash them together and
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Haley doing this kind of work
Speaker 1: behind Peyton's back and like hauling Lucas out and saying
Speaker 1: this is inappropriate and doing things that a good friend
Speaker 1: would do without even then reporting back to Peyton for
Speaker 1: a pat on the back. Like that's what real friendships about.
Speaker 1: It's about doing the hard stuff and having those uncomfortable
Speaker 1: moments for the benefit of someone you care about and
Speaker 1: it's not like Hayley went and knocked on Peyton's door
Speaker 1: and was like you kind of having hard you know. Um,
Speaker 1: she took it to the person who's responsible because Peyton.
Speaker 1: I feel like, and we said this we're watching, I
Speaker 1: feel like Peyton would be okay to let this go,
Speaker 1: like to just let Brooke and Lucas be a thing,
Speaker 1: like we don't need to talk about it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go paint in my bedroom and it's gonna be unfun,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be solitary. Yeah, he's the driving force
Speaker 1: here and for his best friend to recognize that and
Speaker 1: be like whoa whoa wa, Like you're driving this boat.
Speaker 1: Let's dock it. Um. Yeah, Haley is a good friend.
Speaker 1: Like it is totally I don't know, validating the Peytons,
Speaker 1: like please hang out with me, Please hanging out me,
Speaker 1: please sing out with me. It's like she knows innately,
Speaker 1: this is the person that I can trust. I love
Speaker 1: that we had a lot of Camilla with this one. Now,
Speaker 1: for those of you who have been listening along, you
Speaker 1: know that originally this series, uh started out with Whitey
Speaker 1: as kind of the main voice over the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and he had this wife that he would talk to
Speaker 1: all the time, and then at the end of the
Speaker 1: pilot you find out that she's not alive. She's I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't remember it was it an actual ghost,
Speaker 1: like a woman who was there, but she know, an actress.
Speaker 1: It felt like the Wonder Years kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: like the narration in it definitely had like a Wonder
Speaker 1: Years vibe, and so to lose that narration entirely, you know,
Speaker 1: these scenes would take on a very different tone. If like,
Speaker 1: while we're smashing faces in the library, you hear Barry
Speaker 1: Corbyn's voice, like and then these kids Camilla, it turns
Speaker 1: the sexy down a little bit, you know, totally when
Speaker 1: it was nice to see a little bit of that
Speaker 1: I I you know, even though it felt a bit
Speaker 1: haphazard and kind of thrown together, I've still was really
Speaker 1: glad to dive into Whitey's own so that he doesn't
Speaker 1: just become a caricature of you know, a device of
Speaker 1: a person. You know, he really um got to have
Speaker 1: his own journey and we got to see his own
Speaker 1: emotional experience of being a coach and why he cares
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, things that he missed out on
Speaker 1: with his wife and how that affects Nathan was really
Speaker 1: cool too. How old did they think? Barry was like,
Speaker 1: can we just talk about the picture of Camilla because
Speaker 1: that's like a woman from the nineteen twenties world of one. Totally.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Barry, He's like, you know, in this
Speaker 1: show and they've got a wife that's you know, she's
Speaker 1: a flapper. Really funny. Actually, yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: this was intended or not, but maybe because you know,
Speaker 1: we were watching this in order, it kind of felt
Speaker 1: like after that big crashing generational you know, dinner of
Speaker 1: Nightmares in the last episode that Barry, you know that
Speaker 1: coach Whitey was at, I felt like watching all those
Speaker 1: families be destroyed by basketball. He was kind of in
Speaker 1: this episode taking stock of how basketball became such an
Speaker 1: obsession for him that in his mind, he lost out,
Speaker 1: he wasted time with his wife, and I kind of
Speaker 1: it was a little wobbly, but I saw an arc
Speaker 1: there from from last episode to the mid season finale,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, this is interesting that that
Speaker 1: being witnessed to that is giving Whitey this moment where
Speaker 1: he's being introspective and and he's letting Nathan in well,
Speaker 1: and then you see dev leave Dan at the end
Speaker 1: of the episode. It's another marriage ruined by what high
Speaker 1: school basketball. High school basketball ruining everyone's life. So so
Speaker 1: I do a charity back home with my high school,
Speaker 1: we were a huge sports high school. We went to
Speaker 1: states and football, like I would say that going like
Speaker 1: that experience of cheering on the sidelines, so like the
Speaker 1: state competition and like a college campus. It was like
Speaker 1: the biggest deal ever. And we were in the Washington
Speaker 1: Post every weekend and all our players went to college
Speaker 1: and played and it was such a huge experience. Um.
Speaker 1: And then three years ago, my my high school has
Speaker 1: become a title in high school that doesn't have resources anymore.
Speaker 1: You know, it's largely low income and kids that you know,
Speaker 1: apply for three meals a day. Um. And so the
Speaker 1: varsity football team didn't exist, like only like sixteen kids
Speaker 1: came out because no one had pleats, no one had equipment,
Speaker 1: no one good four camps. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: that goes into it. And so we started this you know,
Speaker 1: Project Patriot, where we supply resources so that kids can
Speaker 1: do extracurricular activities. And just this last week, our high
Speaker 1: school won its first home game in five years. Wow,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, congratulations Patriots. I don't even know who
Speaker 1: we were playing. It doesn't matter, you know, like it
Speaker 1: it's been this really cool thing to work on together
Speaker 1: with like old alumni. Shout out to Ashley Gawson and
Speaker 1: Tony Kano. But because Tony listens to this, He's a
Speaker 1: boy who listens to our drum queens. Hi, Hi, Tony.
Speaker 1: So I can see the good side of high school sports.
Speaker 1: I can see that camaraderie and that joy that it
Speaker 1: brings to the community and the structure and the work ethic. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's like we made fun of the toxic parents
Speaker 1: when we were in school, you know, like you could
Speaker 1: tell who his dad was an asshole, and and so
Speaker 1: I relish the chance in this show to get back
Speaker 1: to like what that good stuff is because I know
Speaker 1: we get there eventually with like the state championship and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But it seems like for these first
Speaker 1: thirteen episodes, it's just been like bad, bad, bad drugs,
Speaker 1: you know, drugs, fighting, you know, doing dumb stuff on
Speaker 1: the court, tearing your family of heart, and that's not it.
Speaker 1: Like high school sports can be awesome. Did you, Sophia,
Speaker 1: did you have sports at the girls school? You're like
Speaker 1: field hockey, like where girls do lacrosse. Now, we didn't
Speaker 1: have that. I mean we had I know there. I
Speaker 1: think there was a tennis team. I know we had
Speaker 1: a soccer team. I don't know. I played volleyball in yeah,
Speaker 1: and junior high. But then I started doing theater and
Speaker 1: then I was like, see you, and I was just
Speaker 1: doing doing plays and you know, teching shows and stuff.
Speaker 1: I completely fell out of any of the world of
Speaker 1: athletics once I started getting really into doing plays. So
Speaker 1: it's funny because I don't. I don't. I didn't have
Speaker 1: an experience of sports at our high school, and I
Speaker 1: think that was actually part of when I was applying
Speaker 1: to colleges. I really couldn't decide. I was like, do
Speaker 1: I want to go to n y U or do
Speaker 1: I want to go to USC. Oh my god, girl,
Speaker 1: you went from zero to A and I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to have that experience enjoy Like even when
Speaker 1: you talk about Hailey, you know, trying to figure out
Speaker 1: who she is, Like for me, it felt like trying
Speaker 1: on a new costume. I was like, Okay, I did
Speaker 1: the really academic uh nerdy all girls school theater kid
Speaker 1: costume and now I'm going to go do the big
Speaker 1: huge football games and paint our faces and like Queen World,
Speaker 1: like that whole world was a costume, and like you know,
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out, like where on the
Speaker 1: ends of these spectrums, where where do I fit? What's
Speaker 1: my natural kind of post? And I really feel like
Speaker 1: that took me until I was like thirty. You were
Speaker 1: into sports, like I see it, Like any time we
Speaker 1: had like like super Bowls and things like that, you
Speaker 1: were kind of at the nexus of those get togethers.
Speaker 1: I just love a Hey, I love any excuse to
Speaker 1: throw a party. So if it's like I'm gonna host
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving party with like all our friends and family,
Speaker 1: or if I'm gonna Super Bowl, to me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is an excuse to watch really generally really creative commercials.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't care so much about the game,
Speaker 1: but you can get forty people in a house and
Speaker 1: have good food. So I'm I'm I am a psychotic
Speaker 1: soccer fan, Like I'm a person during the World Cup
Speaker 1: will wake up at four am to watch the women's
Speaker 1: national team play, Like I'm a lunatic about you're an
Speaker 1: owner now right a soccer team? So crazy? I can't.
Speaker 1: I keep looking around being like, who's grown up here?
Speaker 1: And I realized it's me. That's fun so great, Joy
Speaker 1: you you had to actually do some sports action in
Speaker 1: this episode. Are you were you faking it? Can you
Speaker 1: throw a ball? Yeah? No? I'm pretty athletic. I always
Speaker 1: was when I was a kid. I I am not.
Speaker 1: I had a harder time with team sports, just coordinating
Speaker 1: with other people. And it was more of the mental
Speaker 1: um mental agility with team sports because I was so
Speaker 1: easily discouraged if I didn't get something right, and you know,
Speaker 1: people would would be like come on, joy or whatever.
Speaker 1: It crushed me. I was not. It wasn't easy for
Speaker 1: me to bounce back from that. So I knew I
Speaker 1: was really good at theater and so that was my
Speaker 1: sport because that, like I didn't have to deal with
Speaker 1: people telling me bad I was at it like team sports.
Speaker 1: I mean my really only interaction with team sports. I
Speaker 1: think I joined a soccer team for a minute, but
Speaker 1: then I got to play and I was like, I'll
Speaker 1: see you guys later, And then I think I did
Speaker 1: like kickball and handball and hockey and jim at school,
Speaker 1: and I felt comfortable with it. It was just that
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to interact with other people on
Speaker 1: a team with passing the ball or knowing all the
Speaker 1: rules and everything. So I'm really good with like a
Speaker 1: single person. I kickbox, I can do tennis really well.
Speaker 1: I'm good at you know, I can play basketball like
Speaker 1: one on one or whatever. But team sports were just
Speaker 1: hard for me. Um. Yeah, So as the oldest kid,
Speaker 1: you know, I to have to watch my brothers growing up,
Speaker 1: and so I was always like, oh my god, you won,
Speaker 1: Like I'm so groomed to let the other person win, right.
Speaker 1: That's funny when I think that's why I liked watching sports,
Speaker 1: because it was almost like, I don't know, voyeurism. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, look at those people who want this
Speaker 1: so bad. That's so crazy. You. I don't even remember
Speaker 1: shooting this though. The free throw stuff. Uh. There. There
Speaker 1: was that that one scene on the court when Nathan
Speaker 1: comes out and he's trying to teach me, not at
Speaker 1: his house but out on the river court, and we
Speaker 1: were frozen. You can tell because what we're both talking
Speaker 1: at our lips in your face doesn't know exactly we're
Speaker 1: out there. So you couldn't lift your arms because I
Speaker 1: was in twelve layers. So what you wear like silks
Speaker 1: on the bottom layer, right, So silks are which they
Speaker 1: don't make anymore. Now if you ask someone for silks,
Speaker 1: they're like, what did you know this? Yes, I've because
Speaker 1: I've been shooting in Canadas so much then i've it's
Speaker 1: gotten to a point now where okay, so silks used
Speaker 1: to be made from silk, which was uh in a
Speaker 1: particular type of like elastic silk that was a thermal
Speaker 1: layer under your clothes so even in in the cold,
Speaker 1: it would really trap in the heat very well. But
Speaker 1: I guess, um there's like a silkworm shortage or something,
Speaker 1: so it's really hard to find. You have to find
Speaker 1: like vintage silk. So now they have which accomplished the
Speaker 1: same job a little bit less. Well, well, look, I'm
Speaker 1: going to start a silkworm farm up in mr Farm.
Speaker 1: Now the joy is pointed out the void I had
Speaker 1: a lot of layers on. It was that and then
Speaker 1: the you know, whatever goes over it, and then the
Speaker 1: T shirt and then the long sleeve T shirt and
Speaker 1: then the um quarter scarf. And quarter. Oh yeah, let's
Speaker 1: talk about layers. Sophia has tripled down on the unsexy.
Speaker 1: Watch me a turtleneck and I'm gonna wear a scarf
Speaker 1: over said turtleneck. Tigger scarf? Oh my god, are you
Speaker 1: doing the way the post song killed me while we
Speaker 1: watched this episode? Um yeah that. You know, there's something
Speaker 1: so funny about it because I look so goofy in
Speaker 1: that little outfit. And it's it's so sweet because this
Speaker 1: guirl just is leaning in and telling her best friend
Speaker 1: she's falling for this boy, and and starting to tell
Speaker 1: this boy about how she feels. It's like that scene
Speaker 1: where Brooke and Lucas go for the walk in sud
Speaker 1: scarf when they have hot chocolates, Like, she can't even
Speaker 1: keep it in, you know, it's falling out of her mouth.
Speaker 1: And then she diverts and says she's talking about Karen
Speaker 1: and Keith, and it's just, oh, it's heartbreaking. If Brooke
Speaker 1: is the real life Tigger of this show and Payton
Speaker 1: is clearly the ere, what is Haley Haley? I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's Haley pooh or Piglet, probably Piglet, yeah that or
Speaker 1: the rabbit you're the rabbit. That's like, you guys are
Speaker 1: so stupid, you're making a fret. I forgot about the rabbit.
Speaker 1: So that's actually perfect, so perfect. No Pooh, who's walking
Speaker 1: around like an old dummy? Who's the Pooh? Is it? Keith?
Speaker 1: He's so to drink he goes. He's so sweet. I mean,
Speaker 1: what an episode for Keith, you know, reminding us that
Speaker 1: Karen kissed him at the airport and he said it
Speaker 1: wasn't just a friendly goodbye kiss, it was a kiss kiss.
Speaker 1: And and you know, Karen's been gone at cooking school
Speaker 1: in Italy for six weeks because Moira was off having
Speaker 1: a baby, and she's finally coming back and he can't
Speaker 1: wait to kiss her again, and it's taking Lucas and
Speaker 1: and he has this whole conversation with Lucas about no
Speaker 1: matter what happens in you know, Keith and Karen's relationship
Speaker 1: will always be there for him. And they exchange I
Speaker 1: love yous and it's so sweet. And Keith gets distracted
Speaker 1: by Dan, who he's just had this terrible interaction with,
Speaker 1: and he does that thing which I think we've all
Speaker 1: I mean, how close have you come to doing that
Speaker 1: when you're out of light and it turns green in
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh no, my my left arrow is red.
Speaker 1: I don't go, but you start to and then you
Speaker 1: stop all the time and it's that moment where you
Speaker 1: really go, oh god, it could have been me. But
Speaker 1: the question was how many drinks did he have that
Speaker 1: you don't know? I mean, I guess we'll find out
Speaker 1: when we come back. We saw one beer. But but
Speaker 1: if he's it's three hours out and he's having a
Speaker 1: beer three hours before he goes together more the story,
Speaker 1: kids don't do that. Drink and drive. Just don't drink
Speaker 1: and drive. It's not worth it. Yeah, And I'm pretty
Speaker 1: cool for Dan to be there and and you know,
Speaker 1: being there to rip the door off the car and
Speaker 1: pull Lucas out and have to say, because it's a
Speaker 1: life of death situation, he's my son. Um. That was
Speaker 1: a pretty selfless moment, even if you could call the
Speaker 1: heroics of pulling him out of the car selfish, because
Speaker 1: on some level I'm sure that made Dan feel great. Um,
Speaker 1: but being in the hospital, he didn't gain anything by
Speaker 1: saying I'm his father. There's also something so interesting to
Speaker 1: me about how a catastrophic event can immediately make you
Speaker 1: drop all your bs, all your nonsense, everything that you've
Speaker 1: been storing up and thinking, and you realize none of
Speaker 1: it's real. All it's important are the people who you
Speaker 1: care about. And it's like in that moment when those
Speaker 1: when when Keith and Lucas get hit, Dan sees it
Speaker 1: and none of the other nonsense that people fight about
Speaker 1: matters anymore. He he's there, he's present, and it it
Speaker 1: felt like a sort of singularity point for his character
Speaker 1: and he had to drop all the pretense and just
Speaker 1: tell the truth. And that was wild. Well, and you
Speaker 1: said what you just said, the people you care about.
Speaker 1: And up until this point Dan has been adamant I
Speaker 1: don't care about Lucas, I don't care about Keith. And
Speaker 1: Deb's just like caught him with beach Horror. When we
Speaker 1: heard the term beach horror used in this episode, we
Speaker 1: all gasped and we're like, that's our next pilot, Like
Speaker 1: that's the beaches. Um, beach Hore had a great episode. Um,
Speaker 1: but Deb just gave Dan like a look that is
Speaker 1: heartbreaking and so beyond anger. Was like, fine, this is
Speaker 1: it was? And it was also everything I saw in
Speaker 1: her look was I knew I know you're an ass.
Speaker 1: I know you're stubborn and you're selfish, and you broke
Speaker 1: in and you have all these problems I have. I've
Speaker 1: known it's difficult. I'm working through it. But I didn't
Speaker 1: know you were a cheater. And that's what like shuts
Speaker 1: everything down for her, Like I was willing to put
Speaker 1: up with so much, but this, no, this is black
Speaker 1: and white. You know, this is clear cut. And so
Speaker 1: I wonder if that total like being alone situation is
Speaker 1: what put Dan in the headspace to show up for
Speaker 1: It's like, well, I don't have anybody else, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know my son, I don't have my wife, Like
Speaker 1: my son wanted to hang out his girlfriend, you know,
Speaker 1: like these fringe relatives are the only people that he
Speaker 1: has left. And then what else happened? I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: still stuck on beach Horse. That's the most exciting for me. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I made two notes this whole episode because I was
Speaker 1: so just like watching it and it's Haley yelling at
Speaker 1: Lucas and beach Horse. Those are my tuna. I love that. Actually,
Speaker 1: let's talk about music, though, because this episode had two
Speaker 1: songs that I super loved, Tegan and Sarah song Don't Confess,
Speaker 1: Don't Confess y'all. I used to drive around in my
Speaker 1: car listening to that Tegan and Sarah album on repeat,
Speaker 1: just weeping, and every time I every time I hear
Speaker 1: it now I think of like the live oak trees
Speaker 1: with the moss hanging down on Market Street and Will
Speaker 1: just driving up and down that strip listening to that
Speaker 1: whole album, the on the nose of it all with
Speaker 1: the don't Confess. Oh, but it was so good, especially
Speaker 1: because Brooks having this moment and she's like, I want
Speaker 1: to remember this forever, and it's it was so well shot.
Speaker 1: Whoever directed this having you look at the stereo so
Speaker 1: that you could say, don't confess, and both of our
Speaker 1: faces were on camera and your face was turned away
Speaker 1: from Chef's kiss beautiful. It also was a sign from
Speaker 1: the universe. I believe in signs from the universe constantly.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had a sign from the universe in
Speaker 1: real life where you're like, oh, I shouldn't tell my
Speaker 1: best friend that I'm kissing everybody convenience? Also the genius
Speaker 1: of Peyton going to Haley and then Haley saying it's
Speaker 1: not like Lucas was dating Nathan, God, do you think
Speaker 1: that Haley knows what she's saying? Not in that moment? No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Haley is the smartest character, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Now, I would have read
Speaker 1: it differently. I think the way that I chose to
Speaker 1: play it was just distracted and oblivious. But I think
Speaker 1: now in context, I definitely think them A more interesting
Speaker 1: choice would have been for her to say it that way,
Speaker 1: and I wish I would have. I thought it was
Speaker 1: a loving way for Haley to get that point across
Speaker 1: of like you don't you don't want us like being
Speaker 1: your friend, and I'm going to say it in a
Speaker 1: way that is gentle for you. That's much more interesting.
Speaker 1: I wish I would have made that choice. That's how
Speaker 1: I took it. I have to say I kind of
Speaker 1: saw it in the middle. I felt like, when you
Speaker 1: said what's this about? Or what's going on? Whatever you
Speaker 1: say to Peyton, and then Hillary your responses, oh, it's
Speaker 1: a friend of a friend's stuff. I felt like Haley
Speaker 1: was like, what's going on? And then you're like, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's not about me. I just you know, I need
Speaker 1: help to advise someone else. And then I almost felt
Speaker 1: like you kind of got lost in telling your own
Speaker 1: story and then you crack a joke in this way
Speaker 1: that was sort of irreverence and that that lands so
Speaker 1: hard for me as an audience member. I saw that
Speaker 1: like sucker punch. Peyton and Hayley was just like, I'm
Speaker 1: giving great advice in this moment, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh God, everything is bad everywhere. Everything is bad everywhere.
Speaker 1: At a certain point, I need to like somebody get
Speaker 1: their knee off my neck, you know, just because it
Speaker 1: feels like every episode. I think that's the that's the
Speaker 1: title of the of our podcast episode today, Everything is
Speaker 1: bad everywhere? Do you guys also clocked that Shin song too.
Speaker 1: I had to look it up again because I love
Speaker 1: that song. Oh remember over the ramparts you tossed the
Speaker 1: scent of your skin and some foreign flowers? Do you
Speaker 1: remember this? Tied to a brick? Sweet as a song.
Speaker 1: The years have been short, but the days were long,
Speaker 1: you know this song? It was like good right huge
Speaker 1: in two thousand four, I mean, the Shins were major,
Speaker 1: major friend of mine. A baby onesie with the Shin's
Speaker 1: album art on when they had a kid like God, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were happening we were getting like bigger and bigger
Speaker 1: bands on our show. We were okay, hey everybody, Scott Patterson,
Speaker 1: we are going to have a Milo vent Amelia on
Speaker 1: the podcast today and we are dropping the episode immediately.
Speaker 1: We are very excited to have him. He's a he's
Speaker 1: an old and dear friend, and he gave us. He
Speaker 1: gave us some time, which is he doesn't have any time,
Speaker 1: but he gave us some time, and we really really
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. So we're gonna do this interview with Milo, uh,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna drop it immediately as soon as we
Speaker 1: can get it all cobbled together. This cracked team I
Speaker 1: have and we're just very very excited about it. So anyway,
Speaker 1: listen to my podcast I Am All In right now
Speaker 1: on I Heart Radio, app, Apple podcast and everywhere you
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. All right, you want to do a
Speaker 1: fan question? Um, yeah, let's do a fan question. Nicole
Speaker 1: is asking about the filming locations. She wants to know
Speaker 1: was the show filmed in actual houses or built sets? Yes,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Both Hayley's bedroom set, Hayley's house,
Speaker 1: exterior house, neighborhood house. I think all of our homes.
Speaker 1: The exteriors were actual homes, and all the interiors were well,
Speaker 1: I well know, Nathan's house we were on We were
Speaker 1: in there, Nathan's house, We were inside that those people's houses.
Speaker 1: Peyton's bedroom was on set because we spent so much
Speaker 1: time there, but the entire downstairs and obviously like the
Speaker 1: exterior of the house were a real house that was
Speaker 1: right across the street from Hayley's house, which is not
Speaker 1: something you know, people who go on the tour and
Speaker 1: want me to know that. But we were the girls
Speaker 1: from the rough side of the tracks, um, which I
Speaker 1: think they should have played that up more. You know,
Speaker 1: I think that would have been really cool because what
Speaker 1: we liked in the last episode as you turn around
Speaker 1: at Peyton's house and you see the house across the
Speaker 1: street and there's like weeds up to the second story.
Speaker 1: You know, like nobody tried to make it look posh
Speaker 1: or pretty. Woul might have been cool if like Haley
Speaker 1: and Peyton actually were like on the same street and
Speaker 1: kind of always saw each other and ignored each other
Speaker 1: or whatever, and started to well, did you have people
Speaker 1: like that in real life growing up? Because I definitely did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, I remember singing a song to
Speaker 1: our German shepherd in the backyard and like looking up
Speaker 1: and seeing all like the hot middle school dudes walk
Speaker 1: by and being like, oh, but yeah, proximity was our
Speaker 1: built in with our locations. I don't know why we
Speaker 1: never played that Lucas's house was this was a house
Speaker 1: to the downstairs. His bedroom was on stage. What about
Speaker 1: how much of Brooks. Oh, we didn't see Brooks House.
Speaker 1: I was like, Felix, we don't see Brooks house. Gosh,
Speaker 1: until we get later into the season there's a big
Speaker 1: scandal and you go into Brooks bedroom for the first time,
Speaker 1: but there's no house. I don't think Brooke got a
Speaker 1: house until season two. But saying the exterior um was
Speaker 1: a real place, and then we would use some of
Speaker 1: the downstairs rooms, but then my bedroom was always on
Speaker 1: the side. Anywhere that we were going to be with
Speaker 1: any regularity, aside from the big Dan Scott house, they
Speaker 1: would build on stage because it was just too hard
Speaker 1: to deal with when you could be in the houses,
Speaker 1: you know, getting the folks who lived there out in
Speaker 1: comfortable and such a process. Yeah, it's really hectic for people.
Speaker 1: So so they liked building sets so that we could
Speaker 1: kind of make our own schedules. Well, so for Peyton's house,
Speaker 1: in the midst of our shooting, the house sold right
Speaker 1: so there was no guarantee that they were going to
Speaker 1: let us keep filming there. And the young family that
Speaker 1: moved in was John Jeremiah Sullivan, who is a really
Speaker 1: accomplished writer. He's a writer for g Q and I
Speaker 1: think form like Rolling Stone, a bunch of books. Um
Speaker 1: cool guy, and so I ended up kind of making
Speaker 1: friends with them, and I stayed in touch with him
Speaker 1: and his family. Their daughter was born, like like, they
Speaker 1: moved in when his wife was pregnant. Their daughter was
Speaker 1: born right after we, you know, signed our agreement with them,
Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, we get to go stay
Speaker 1: in the river View Sweets for a couple of days
Speaker 1: here and there and make some money and it pays
Speaker 1: our mortgage. What they didn't realize is that, like our
Speaker 1: set dressing wallpapered the house the way we wanted it,
Speaker 1: not the way they wanted it. But they only went
Speaker 1: halfway up this airs. So for like years they had
Speaker 1: to live with the halfway wallpaper, which doesn't sound bad
Speaker 1: at first, and then you're like six months into your
Speaker 1: house and you're like, I'm kind of um, he wrote
Speaker 1: an article about it. I was gonna ask I remember
Speaker 1: that article kind of broke my heart. I really felt
Speaker 1: for them. It was a painful situation. And so as
Speaker 1: their daughter got older, she grew up with people in
Speaker 1: their front yard and on their steps. And then when
Speaker 1: she was old enough to watch this television show that
Speaker 1: you know, she's she might be in college now or
Speaker 1: either she's like in late high school or college now. Um,
Speaker 1: she watches the show and in the later seasons when
Speaker 1: we get to the Psycho Deeric stuff in the basement
Speaker 1: for her to watch all of that, like trauma happened
Speaker 1: and what's supposed to be her house was so weird,
Speaker 1: so weird. So for any of you who go through
Speaker 1: Wilmington's and like go buy the houses and stuff, these
Speaker 1: are real people and they're lovely, Like please be so
Speaker 1: so so nice to them. You should leave like flowers
Speaker 1: and you know, press it's on their doorstep because they've
Speaker 1: been Yeah, it does. It does also feel worth repeating.
Speaker 1: I I I love and I know we all love that.
Speaker 1: Our show means as much to all of you guys
Speaker 1: as it does. It means a lot to us. But Hillary,
Speaker 1: you just said the most perfect thing. These are real
Speaker 1: people I get like the tours and wanting to take photos.
Speaker 1: Please do it from the sidewalk. Please don't just like
Speaker 1: walk onto people's front porches and lean on their front doors.
Speaker 1: And like I've seen, I've seen some people who obviously
Speaker 1: means so well, but you know, who are kind of
Speaker 1: climbing all over these homes. And and when when the
Speaker 1: writer you're referring to wrote this piece, he talked about
Speaker 1: how terrifying it would be for his little girl to
Speaker 1: just have like strangers peeking in the front windows and
Speaker 1: outside her front door. Did they try and sell the
Speaker 1: house and then couldn't because it was a TV show houses?
Speaker 1: That what happened. That's what happened to the people who
Speaker 1: own Lucas and Karen's. Oh that's right, they couldn't sell
Speaker 1: the house because there's always people climbing all over it.
Speaker 1: So I think it would be really loving if we
Speaker 1: as a community, as this great big one Tree Hill
Speaker 1: family could kind of try to set a boundary and say,
Speaker 1: if you're going to go visit the homes, take pictures
Speaker 1: from the sidewalk. If you happen to meet the person
Speaker 1: who lives there, and and they say, oh today, you're
Speaker 1: welcome to whatever. Take their lead, but just don't like,
Speaker 1: don't go climb on people's porches, and you know, by
Speaker 1: just treat loving and remember that, like if you were
Speaker 1: in your house and suddenly, oh my god, peeking in
Speaker 1: your front window, you'd probably be pretty freaked out. So
Speaker 1: so let's let's all lovingly. Yeah. I mean, people are
Speaker 1: really lucky they didn't get shot because it's it's a
Speaker 1: south And also, like, soody's walking on my property, I
Speaker 1: gotta be begun. If you're looking at my window, believe me,
Speaker 1: I'm shooting your eye out. Started. You can't go to
Speaker 1: someone's house without bringing a trinket or a casserole or
Speaker 1: like a thing. And so I don't know, maybe we
Speaker 1: need to have a toll, you know, like either you
Speaker 1: need to bring a bouquet of flowers or some seashells
Speaker 1: or some candles, bottle of champagne. Something we should ask.
Speaker 1: We should ask the people who live in each house
Speaker 1: what their favorite thing is, and then we'll publish a
Speaker 1: guide of like you have to pay to go. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do a told just just for energetic niceness because
Speaker 1: because truly, these families they have put up with God
Speaker 1: so much over the years, and they are so kind.
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, Jeremiah being so honest
Speaker 1: about the stuff that so many people probably never considered,
Speaker 1: really opened my eyes and our eyes and anyway, loving boundaries,
Speaker 1: everyone loving you? Or what's the next question? Okay? Um,
Speaker 1: what was something your characters went through or did that
Speaker 1: made you see your character in a new light and
Speaker 1: maybe even had a new admiration for um? Should we
Speaker 1: just stick to what we've seen so far in the
Speaker 1: in the first twelve that's smart? Yeah, go Joy? Well,
Speaker 1: I think what what I've been noticing? Um, As I
Speaker 1: just said, I love Haley so much more now than
Speaker 1: I did back then. I think she was just all
Speaker 1: the character of her was all tangled up with my
Speaker 1: young confusion of what who I wanted to be and
Speaker 1: what I wanted life to be, and how I wanted
Speaker 1: to play the character and what I thought was uh
Speaker 1: important to portray all those kinds of things like responsibilities
Speaker 1: to younger women and all that stuff. So now looking
Speaker 1: back at Haley, I love that she was just so
Speaker 1: ballsy and brave, and um, I think I always felt
Speaker 1: I always felt really insecure, and then sometimes I would
Speaker 1: overcompensate that by being really stubborn because I didn't know
Speaker 1: who I could trust. So I just felt like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't trust anybody, so I just I'm going to
Speaker 1: dig my heels in um. And So what I love
Speaker 1: about watching Haley now is that somehow I managed to
Speaker 1: let my insecurities go to be her and and I
Speaker 1: just love how brave she was and um willing to
Speaker 1: contribute to the conversation and confident in her own skin
Speaker 1: and all the things that all the best parts of
Speaker 1: her make me really proud of her. Haley is so
Speaker 1: incredibly likable, and everyone's being loathsome in different ways, and
Speaker 1: Haley is just like the voice of integrity. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's also really I have to say, it's so fun
Speaker 1: for me to watch. I mean, to watch all of
Speaker 1: this with the two of you is such a dream.
Speaker 1: So thanks again to the fans for tuning in. But
Speaker 1: but like I don't know, I remember at the time
Speaker 1: how hard it was. Is just like twenty one year
Speaker 1: old girls as our characters, as Brooke and Peyton were,
Speaker 1: you know, on either end of this big secret and
Speaker 1: this big betrayal. In this love triangle, people were really
Speaker 1: mean to me into Hillary kind of in defense of
Speaker 1: each other's characters, and it was really are, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but now now we're we're grown ladies and we don't
Speaker 1: give it. But at the time, I was really like
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do about it. And now
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, that's cute that you think you
Speaker 1: could love her more than I do. L O l um.
Speaker 1: But it's actually really cool because I realized how insecure
Speaker 1: and and kind of like bullied I felt as a
Speaker 1: young girl doing this show. Now, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I was so in the brook and Peyton of it all.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm loving watching Haley. I'm like, dude, I forgot,
Speaker 1: Like there's just things I forgot, and to see her
Speaker 1: be so true blue have such a clear sense of
Speaker 1: right and wrong. I think for so long, especially young women,
Speaker 1: we get encouraged to be like, yeah, but what was
Speaker 1: he feeling? You know, why do you think he might
Speaker 1: have done that bad thing? And yeah, there was a
Speaker 1: there was a lot of like justify for love nonsense,
Speaker 1: and Haley was like, we're not justifying anything, And so
Speaker 1: now I'm watching her just being like this is the
Speaker 1: friend we all deserved. Yeah, she's handling. And now the
Speaker 1: question is specifically did the characters go through something. I mean,
Speaker 1: like I said, again, it's just watching the progression of
Speaker 1: all the circumstances that are happening and seeing how, you know,
Speaker 1: we're handling everything. But I think just Haley blossoming in
Speaker 1: this relationship with Nathan and being more comfortable in her
Speaker 1: own skin and discovering who she is and what she likes,
Speaker 1: and it's really fun to watch. What about you guys, Well,
Speaker 1: I just want to say it makes sense that the
Speaker 1: one with the parents and like the family unit is
Speaker 1: the one who is navigating the best. Yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 1: does yea. I UM. I have struggled with Peyton for
Speaker 1: a long time because you know, she was vilified and
Speaker 1: I didn't really pay attention to why and it was
Speaker 1: just like fine, you know whatever. Um. And there have
Speaker 1: been some really sweet kids who listened to the not
Speaker 1: kids were all like older now, um, but people who
Speaker 1: listen to our podcast and who come online and they're
Speaker 1: like just so, you know, like I liked you, so
Speaker 1: thank you for that. That's really nice. But seeing a
Speaker 1: girl who should probably be in therapy, seeing a girl
Speaker 1: who should have an aunt or an uncle or a
Speaker 1: grandparent or anybody check in on her, and doesn't watching
Speaker 1: her get manipulated by a boy. I never thought to
Speaker 1: characterize the relationship that way, because it does end up
Speaker 1: becoming the happy ending by the time I left the show, right,
Speaker 1: But I think it's a important to acknowledge that when
Speaker 1: we're kids and we're sorting out how to have relationships,
Speaker 1: and maybe we haven't necessarily had examples of that, there
Speaker 1: are going to be mistakes and Lucas is making major
Speaker 1: mistakes here. Peyton's paying for it. Brooks going to end
Speaker 1: up paying for it. Um. But it never occurred to
Speaker 1: me before that it wasn't Peyton's fault. I think I assumed,
Speaker 1: like I say, I assumed, but I think Peyton assumed
Speaker 1: ownership of the chaos, certainly for me for like eighteen years.
Speaker 1: And so to watch it now as an adult, like,
Speaker 1: I'm watching it as a third person. It's not me,
Speaker 1: you know, the character or the actress. I'm a totally
Speaker 1: different human now and I can watch it and be like, oh, bunny,
Speaker 1: funny a person you know you need an older lady
Speaker 1: to brush your hair and say, oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: So that's I mean, that's the thing that watching back
Speaker 1: for me, I just feel this kind of relief of like, oh,
Speaker 1: it wasn't her fault. That's yeah, that's a relief. Well
Speaker 1: you yeah, I love that. It's interesting, you know. I
Speaker 1: I have liked in these first thirteen episodes seeing Brooke
Speaker 1: put the defense down, the like how hard she pushes
Speaker 1: to be like charming or sexy or say the thing
Speaker 1: that's going to get the laugh. It's all about outside
Speaker 1: validation and like really trying to look like she has
Speaker 1: it together, and and seeing her get softer, seeing her
Speaker 1: admit things. I mean, even her saying on that hot
Speaker 1: chocolate walk and talk with Lucas, I'm not close with
Speaker 1: my mom. It would be really cool if I hit
Speaker 1: it off with yours. She is she wants her family, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she just like she wants a safe place. She's never
Speaker 1: felt safe. And and I think it's really interesting to
Speaker 1: understand how, like you said, you know, people who don't
Speaker 1: have a family unit can suffer a lot. People who
Speaker 1: don't have a safe place, even with a chosen family,
Speaker 1: can kind of suffer a lot. And and Brooke and
Speaker 1: Peyton have been each other's chosen family, but they're just
Speaker 1: two sixteen year olds, Like no one can be the
Speaker 1: leader because they're both little girls. So that's a great point.
Speaker 1: Where's the leader? We don't have one. We're just we're
Speaker 1: a team. But like I don't know, we're out like
Speaker 1: trolling around like feral cats. We don't know anything. We
Speaker 1: needed like a cool like student government teacher, you know,
Speaker 1: like a cool teacher, because I had cool teachers in
Speaker 1: school that definitely would like wasn't it like a cool
Speaker 1: kind of rock and roll vibe like like we needed
Speaker 1: when we were all the kids at tree Hill High
Speaker 1: to have the teacher slash guidance counselor that Hayley James
Speaker 1: becomes later in the show. We never had. We never
Speaker 1: had that. Yeah. Plus back then there was such a
Speaker 1: big separation between the parents and the kids with fashion,
Speaker 1: and it was like very clear who was like mom
Speaker 1: like soccer moms, and then who were the kids tan pants?
Speaker 1: But really it really created a big divide I think
Speaker 1: between the adults and the kids. And I don't know
Speaker 1: what your experiences, Ben Hill as a mom of um,
Speaker 1: well preteen I guess almost, but um, there's less of
Speaker 1: a divide, like there's much more of a I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just a really cool mom. But you know,
Speaker 1: it seems like there's less of a divide between the
Speaker 1: parents and the kids. It seems like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: and is that just my world? I think that we
Speaker 1: hang out with our kids in a different way than
Speaker 1: like our parents generation did. Yeah, you know, that's what
Speaker 1: it is. It's there's we're the communicator. Um. But I
Speaker 1: would say that when I was in school, the there
Speaker 1: were a number of teachers who were really young, like
Speaker 1: right out of college, so they weren't necessarily that much
Speaker 1: older than us, and that made it really easy to
Speaker 1: communicate with them. And so I wish that our girls
Speaker 1: had had a woman in their twenties, you know that
Speaker 1: that would have been good for us on set to
Speaker 1: have somewhere a little bit older man, and and good
Speaker 1: for us in the narrative because we were just floating.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have known how to write for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all the boys got to have mentors. What the heck?
Speaker 1: They had multiple mentors. It's actually really interesting too, thinking
Speaker 1: about how intense the divide was. Even with our wardrobe.
Speaker 1: Something just clicked for me where I'm like, oh, but
Speaker 1: we were all twenty one three. You know, aside from
Speaker 1: sweet Baby James, who was eighteen this this first season,
Speaker 1: but you know, everyone playing our parents was only like
Speaker 1: fifteen years older than us. They were actually old enough
Speaker 1: to be our real parents. So I think they also
Speaker 1: tried to age them up in dressing them more kind
Speaker 1: of like parental conservative Khaki, Like they didn't want they
Speaker 1: didn't want Deb to be the cool mom because then
Speaker 1: everyone would know she wasn't that much older than us, right, true. Well,
Speaker 1: Deb went through it this episode, Peyton and bro are
Speaker 1: going through it. It's a big, big episode, and it
Speaker 1: was I think this was our winter finale, So I
Speaker 1: think this was the hiatus one that we come We
Speaker 1: stopped like November, what you know or something, and then
Speaker 1: come back January seven. These episodes that were airing in February.
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember back in the first years of
Speaker 1: our show, we would take March off because every week
Speaker 1: in March was a rolling spring break and the network
Speaker 1: had this obsession shin I guess or this some person
Speaker 1: there was convinced that if we aired episodes over spring break,
Speaker 1: the ratings would go down. Well that's so weird, So
Speaker 1: they would take us off the air for all of
Speaker 1: March and then we'd come back on you. I totally
Speaker 1: forgot about that. It was so weird. That's so weird.
Speaker 1: Well now you all can strain it. Now you can
Speaker 1: watch it in like two days. Just watched Whatever you
Speaker 1: want is our March hiatus, and it's we go out
Speaker 1: on Lucas flat lining, flat lining scary as if the
Speaker 1: surgery wasn't like a dramatic enough point, they were like,
Speaker 1: we really got to go out on this button. By
Speaker 1: the way, when he shows up and the and the
Speaker 1: surgeon has to say, he takes one look at him
Speaker 1: and he goes, he's going to need surgery. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you haven't even examined it. You don't know. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: just got a concussion. He might be fine. He's dramatic,
Speaker 1: you guys, calmed down, he's going to need surgery. I
Speaker 1: mean nothing against the actor, but he had to say
Speaker 1: that line. All, Let's do him most likely to huh. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's to it now now most likely to win Jeopardy. Okay,
Speaker 1: So hold on, let's we have to find a character
Speaker 1: in a real life person with mouth win Jeopardy. I
Speaker 1: feel like mouth would win Jeopardy absolutely God, you nailed
Speaker 1: that joy so quickly. I also weirdly feel like Lee
Speaker 1: Norris would win Jeopardy. Yeah, actually that's don't. He'd really
Speaker 1: be focused. He'd be in like a great suit with
Speaker 1: a cool tie, and he'd just be going in on facts.
Speaker 1: I see it fine, as long as they have LaVar
Speaker 1: Burton hosting. I'm I'm all for leaving on Jeopardy, you
Speaker 1: and me both. That's my dream petition. The more you
Speaker 1: know that's it, folks, it has been a weird, meandering episode.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you stuck with us through it because this
Speaker 1: was a grab bag of all sorts of emotional car
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