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Speaker 1: This is the day after Thanksgiving sandwich of episode The

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Speaker 1: crock Pots. The croc Pots episode It's Hanging by a moment.

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Speaker 1: It originally aired February tenth, two thousand four. Breakdown is

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Speaker 1: on their way to drive Karen home from the airport,

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Speaker 1: has left. And then what else happened? I mean, I'm

425
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: still stuck on beach Horse. That's the most exciting for me. Honestly,

426
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: I made two notes this whole episode because I was

427
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: so just like watching it and it's Haley yelling at

428
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: Lucas and beach Horse. Those are my tuna. I love that. Actually,

429
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: let's talk about music, though, because this episode had two

430
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Speaker 1: songs that I super loved, Tegan and Sarah song Don't Confess,

431
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: Don't Confess y'all. I used to drive around in my

432
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: car listening to that Tegan and Sarah album on repeat,

433
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: just weeping, and every time I every time I hear

434
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: it now I think of like the live oak trees

435
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: with the moss hanging down on Market Street and Will

436
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: just driving up and down that strip listening to that

437
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: whole album, the on the nose of it all with

438
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: the don't Confess. Oh, but it was so good, especially

439
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: because Brooks having this moment and she's like, I want

440
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: to remember this forever, and it's it was so well shot.

441
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: Whoever directed this having you look at the stereo so

442
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: that you could say, don't confess, and both of our

443
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: faces were on camera and your face was turned away

444
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: from Chef's kiss beautiful. It also was a sign from

445
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: the universe. I believe in signs from the universe constantly.

446
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: Have you ever had a sign from the universe in

447
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: real life where you're like, oh, I shouldn't tell my

448
00:25:52,920 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: best friend that I'm kissing everybody convenience? Also the genius

449
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: of Peyton going to Haley and then Haley saying it's

450
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: not like Lucas was dating Nathan, God, do you think

451
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: that Haley knows what she's saying? Not in that moment? No,

452
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Haley is the smartest character, do

453
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Now, I would have read

454
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Speaker 1: it differently. I think the way that I chose to

455
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: play it was just distracted and oblivious. But I think

456
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: now in context, I definitely think them A more interesting

457
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: choice would have been for her to say it that way,

458
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: and I wish I would have. I thought it was

459
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: a loving way for Haley to get that point across

460
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: of like you don't you don't want us like being

461
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: your friend, and I'm going to say it in a

462
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: way that is gentle for you. That's much more interesting.

463
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: I wish I would have made that choice. That's how

464
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: I took it. I have to say I kind of

465
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: saw it in the middle. I felt like, when you

466
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: said what's this about? Or what's going on? Whatever you

467
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: say to Peyton, and then Hillary your responses, oh, it's

468
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: a friend of a friend's stuff. I felt like Haley

469
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: was like, what's going on? And then you're like, no, no,

470
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: it's not about me. I just you know, I need

471
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: help to advise someone else. And then I almost felt

472
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: like you kind of got lost in telling your own

473
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: story and then you crack a joke in this way

474
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: that was sort of irreverence and that that lands so

475
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: hard for me as an audience member. I saw that

476
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: like sucker punch. Peyton and Hayley was just like, I'm

477
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: giving great advice in this moment, and I was like,

478
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: oh God, everything is bad everywhere. Everything is bad everywhere.

479
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: At a certain point, I need to like somebody get

480
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: their knee off my neck, you know, just because it

481
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: feels like every episode. I think that's the that's the

482
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: title of the of our podcast episode today, Everything is

483
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: bad everywhere? Do you guys also clocked that Shin song too.

484
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: I had to look it up again because I love

485
00:27:55,119 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: that song. Oh remember over the ramparts you tossed the

486
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: scent of your skin and some foreign flowers? Do you

487
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: remember this? Tied to a brick? Sweet as a song.

488
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: The years have been short, but the days were long,

489
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: you know this song? It was like good right huge

490
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: in two thousand four, I mean, the Shins were major,

491
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: major friend of mine. A baby onesie with the Shin's

492
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: album art on when they had a kid like God, Yeah,

493
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: they were happening we were getting like bigger and bigger

494
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: bands on our show. We were okay, hey everybody, Scott Patterson,

495
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: we are going to have a Milo vent Amelia on

496
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: the podcast today and we are dropping the episode immediately.

497
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: We are very excited to have him. He's a he's

498
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: an old and dear friend, and he gave us. He

499
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: gave us some time, which is he doesn't have any time,

500
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: but he gave us some time, and we really really

501
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. So we're gonna do this interview with Milo, uh,

502
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: and we're gonna drop it immediately as soon as we

503
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: can get it all cobbled together. This cracked team I

504
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: have and we're just very very excited about it. So anyway,

505
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: listen to my podcast I Am All In right now

506
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: on I Heart Radio, app, Apple podcast and everywhere you

507
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. All right, you want to do a

508
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: fan question? Um, yeah, let's do a fan question. Nicole

509
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: is asking about the filming locations. She wants to know

510
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: was the show filmed in actual houses or built sets? Yes,

511
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Both Hayley's bedroom set, Hayley's house,

512
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: exterior house, neighborhood house. I think all of our homes.

513
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: The exteriors were actual homes, and all the interiors were well,

514
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: I well know, Nathan's house we were on We were

515
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: in there, Nathan's house, We were inside that those people's houses.

516
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: Peyton's bedroom was on set because we spent so much

517
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: time there, but the entire downstairs and obviously like the

518
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: exterior of the house were a real house that was

519
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: right across the street from Hayley's house, which is not

520
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: something you know, people who go on the tour and

521
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: want me to know that. But we were the girls

522
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: from the rough side of the tracks, um, which I

523
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: think they should have played that up more. You know,

524
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: I think that would have been really cool because what

525
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: we liked in the last episode as you turn around

526
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: at Peyton's house and you see the house across the

527
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: street and there's like weeds up to the second story.

528
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: You know, like nobody tried to make it look posh

529
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: or pretty. Woul might have been cool if like Haley

530
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: and Peyton actually were like on the same street and

531
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: kind of always saw each other and ignored each other

532
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: or whatever, and started to well, did you have people

533
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: like that in real life growing up? Because I definitely did. Yeah,

534
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, I remember singing a song to

535
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: our German shepherd in the backyard and like looking up

536
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: and seeing all like the hot middle school dudes walk

537
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: by and being like, oh, but yeah, proximity was our

538
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: built in with our locations. I don't know why we

539
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: never played that Lucas's house was this was a house

540
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: to the downstairs. His bedroom was on stage. What about

541
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: how much of Brooks. Oh, we didn't see Brooks House.

542
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: I was like, Felix, we don't see Brooks house. Gosh,

543
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: until we get later into the season there's a big

544
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: scandal and you go into Brooks bedroom for the first time,

545
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: but there's no house. I don't think Brooke got a

546
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: house until season two. But saying the exterior um was

547
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: a real place, and then we would use some of

548
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: the downstairs rooms, but then my bedroom was always on

549
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: the side. Anywhere that we were going to be with

550
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: any regularity, aside from the big Dan Scott house, they

551
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: would build on stage because it was just too hard

552
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: to deal with when you could be in the houses,

553
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, getting the folks who lived there out in

554
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: comfortable and such a process. Yeah, it's really hectic for people.

555
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: So so they liked building sets so that we could

556
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: kind of make our own schedules. Well, so for Peyton's house,

557
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: in the midst of our shooting, the house sold right

558
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: so there was no guarantee that they were going to

559
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: let us keep filming there. And the young family that

560
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: moved in was John Jeremiah Sullivan, who is a really

561
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: accomplished writer. He's a writer for g Q and I

562
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 1: think form like Rolling Stone, a bunch of books. Um

563
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: cool guy, and so I ended up kind of making

564
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: friends with them, and I stayed in touch with him

565
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: and his family. Their daughter was born, like like, they

566
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: moved in when his wife was pregnant. Their daughter was

567
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: born right after we, you know, signed our agreement with them,

568
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, we get to go stay

569
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: in the river View Sweets for a couple of days

570
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: here and there and make some money and it pays

571
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: our mortgage. What they didn't realize is that, like our

572
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: set dressing wallpapered the house the way we wanted it,

573
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: not the way they wanted it. But they only went

574
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: halfway up this airs. So for like years they had

575
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: to live with the halfway wallpaper, which doesn't sound bad

576
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: at first, and then you're like six months into your

577
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: house and you're like, I'm kind of um, he wrote

578
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: an article about it. I was gonna ask I remember

579
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: that article kind of broke my heart. I really felt

580
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: for them. It was a painful situation. And so as

581
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: their daughter got older, she grew up with people in

582
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: their front yard and on their steps. And then when

583
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: she was old enough to watch this television show that

584
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, she's she might be in college now or

585
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: either she's like in late high school or college now. Um,

586
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: she watches the show and in the later seasons when

587
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: we get to the Psycho Deeric stuff in the basement

588
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: for her to watch all of that, like trauma happened

589
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: and what's supposed to be her house was so weird,

590
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: so weird. So for any of you who go through

591
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: Wilmington's and like go buy the houses and stuff, these

592
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: are real people and they're lovely, Like please be so

593
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: so so nice to them. You should leave like flowers

594
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: and you know, press it's on their doorstep because they've

595
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: been Yeah, it does. It does also feel worth repeating.

596
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: I I I love and I know we all love that.

597
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: Our show means as much to all of you guys

598
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: as it does. It means a lot to us. But Hillary,

599
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 1: you just said the most perfect thing. These are real

600
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: people I get like the tours and wanting to take photos.

601
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: Please do it from the sidewalk. Please don't just like

602
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: walk onto people's front porches and lean on their front doors.

603
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: And like I've seen, I've seen some people who obviously

604
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: means so well, but you know, who are kind of

605
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: climbing all over these homes. And and when when the

606
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: writer you're referring to wrote this piece, he talked about

607
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: how terrifying it would be for his little girl to

608
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: just have like strangers peeking in the front windows and

609
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: outside her front door. Did they try and sell the

610
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: house and then couldn't because it was a TV show houses?

611
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: That what happened. That's what happened to the people who

612
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: own Lucas and Karen's. Oh that's right, they couldn't sell

613
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: the house because there's always people climbing all over it.

614
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: So I think it would be really loving if we

615
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: as a community, as this great big one Tree Hill

616
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 1: family could kind of try to set a boundary and say,

617
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: if you're going to go visit the homes, take pictures

618
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: from the sidewalk. If you happen to meet the person

619
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: who lives there, and and they say, oh today, you're

620
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: welcome to whatever. Take their lead, but just don't like,

621
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: don't go climb on people's porches, and you know, by

622
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: just treat loving and remember that, like if you were

623
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: in your house and suddenly, oh my god, peeking in

624
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: your front window, you'd probably be pretty freaked out. So

625
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: so let's let's all lovingly. Yeah. I mean, people are

626
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: really lucky they didn't get shot because it's it's a

627
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: south And also, like, soody's walking on my property, I

628
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: gotta be begun. If you're looking at my window, believe me,

629
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm shooting your eye out. Started. You can't go to

630
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: someone's house without bringing a trinket or a casserole or

631
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: like a thing. And so I don't know, maybe we

632
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: need to have a toll, you know, like either you

633
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: need to bring a bouquet of flowers or some seashells

634
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: or some candles, bottle of champagne. Something we should ask.

635
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 1: We should ask the people who live in each house

636
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: what their favorite thing is, and then we'll publish a

637
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: guide of like you have to pay to go. We're

638
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: gonna do a told just just for energetic niceness because

639
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: because truly, these families they have put up with God

640
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: so much over the years, and they are so kind.

641
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, Jeremiah being so honest

642
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: about the stuff that so many people probably never considered,

643
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: really opened my eyes and our eyes and anyway, loving boundaries,

644
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: everyone loving you? Or what's the next question? Okay? Um,

645
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: what was something your characters went through or did that

646
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: made you see your character in a new light and

647
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: maybe even had a new admiration for um? Should we

648
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: just stick to what we've seen so far in the

649
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: in the first twelve that's smart? Yeah, go Joy? Well,

650
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: I think what what I've been noticing? Um, As I

651
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: just said, I love Haley so much more now than

652
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: I did back then. I think she was just all

653
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: the character of her was all tangled up with my

654
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: young confusion of what who I wanted to be and

655
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: what I wanted life to be, and how I wanted

656
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: to play the character and what I thought was uh

657
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: important to portray all those kinds of things like responsibilities

658
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: to younger women and all that stuff. So now looking

659
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: back at Haley, I love that she was just so

660
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: ballsy and brave, and um, I think I always felt

661
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: I always felt really insecure, and then sometimes I would

662
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: overcompensate that by being really stubborn because I didn't know

663
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: who I could trust. So I just felt like, oh,

664
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: I can't trust anybody, so I just I'm going to

665
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: dig my heels in um. And So what I love

666
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: about watching Haley now is that somehow I managed to

667
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: let my insecurities go to be her and and I

668
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: just love how brave she was and um willing to

669
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: contribute to the conversation and confident in her own skin

670
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: and all the things that all the best parts of

671
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: her make me really proud of her. Haley is so

672
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: incredibly likable, and everyone's being loathsome in different ways, and

673
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: Haley is just like the voice of integrity. Yeah, and

674
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: it's also really I have to say, it's so fun

675
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: for me to watch. I mean, to watch all of

676
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: this with the two of you is such a dream.

677
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: So thanks again to the fans for tuning in. But

678
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: but like I don't know, I remember at the time

679
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: how hard it was. Is just like twenty one year

680
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: old girls as our characters, as Brooke and Peyton were,

681
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: you know, on either end of this big secret and

682
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: this big betrayal. In this love triangle, people were really

683
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: mean to me into Hillary kind of in defense of

684
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: each other's characters, and it was really are, well, yeah,

685
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: but now now we're we're grown ladies and we don't

686
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: give it. But at the time, I was really like

687
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do about it. And now

688
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, that's cute that you think you

689
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: could love her more than I do. L O l um.

690
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: But it's actually really cool because I realized how insecure

691
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: and and kind of like bullied I felt as a

692
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: young girl doing this show. Now, like I don't know,

693
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: I was so in the brook and Peyton of it all.

694
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm loving watching Haley. I'm like, dude, I forgot,

695
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: Like there's just things I forgot, and to see her

696
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: be so true blue have such a clear sense of

697
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: right and wrong. I think for so long, especially young women,

698
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: we get encouraged to be like, yeah, but what was

699
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: he feeling? You know, why do you think he might

700
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: have done that bad thing? And yeah, there was a

701
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: there was a lot of like justify for love nonsense,

702
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: and Haley was like, we're not justifying anything, And so

703
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: now I'm watching her just being like this is the

704
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: friend we all deserved. Yeah, she's handling. And now the

705
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: question is specifically did the characters go through something. I mean,

706
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: like I said, again, it's just watching the progression of

707
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: all the circumstances that are happening and seeing how, you know,

708
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: we're handling everything. But I think just Haley blossoming in

709
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: this relationship with Nathan and being more comfortable in her

710
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: own skin and discovering who she is and what she likes,

711
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: and it's really fun to watch. What about you guys, Well,

712
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: I just want to say it makes sense that the

713
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: one with the parents and like the family unit is

714
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: the one who is navigating the best. Yeah, yeah, it

715
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: does yea. I UM. I have struggled with Peyton for

716
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: a long time because you know, she was vilified and

717
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: I didn't really pay attention to why and it was

718
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: just like fine, you know whatever. Um. And there have

719
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: been some really sweet kids who listened to the not

720
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: kids were all like older now, um, but people who

721
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: listen to our podcast and who come online and they're

722
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: like just so, you know, like I liked you, so

723
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: thank you for that. That's really nice. But seeing a

724
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: girl who should probably be in therapy, seeing a girl

725
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: who should have an aunt or an uncle or a

726
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: grandparent or anybody check in on her, and doesn't watching

727
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: her get manipulated by a boy. I never thought to

728
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: characterize the relationship that way, because it does end up

729
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: becoming the happy ending by the time I left the show, right,

730
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: But I think it's a important to acknowledge that when

731
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: we're kids and we're sorting out how to have relationships,

732
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: and maybe we haven't necessarily had examples of that, there

733
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: are going to be mistakes and Lucas is making major

734
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: mistakes here. Peyton's paying for it. Brooks going to end

735
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: up paying for it. Um. But it never occurred to

736
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: me before that it wasn't Peyton's fault. I think I assumed,

737
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: like I say, I assumed, but I think Peyton assumed

738
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: ownership of the chaos, certainly for me for like eighteen years.

739
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: And so to watch it now as an adult, like,

740
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: I'm watching it as a third person. It's not me,

741
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, the character or the actress. I'm a totally

742
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: different human now and I can watch it and be like, oh, bunny,

743
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: funny a person you know you need an older lady

744
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: to brush your hair and say, oh no, no, no,

745
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 1: So that's I mean, that's the thing that watching back

746
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: for me, I just feel this kind of relief of like, oh,

747
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: it wasn't her fault. That's yeah, that's a relief. Well

748
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: you yeah, I love that. It's interesting, you know. I

749
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: I have liked in these first thirteen episodes seeing Brooke

750
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: put the defense down, the like how hard she pushes

751
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: to be like charming or sexy or say the thing

752
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: that's going to get the laugh. It's all about outside

753
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: validation and like really trying to look like she has

754
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: it together, and and seeing her get softer, seeing her

755
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: admit things. I mean, even her saying on that hot

756
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: chocolate walk and talk with Lucas, I'm not close with

757
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: my mom. It would be really cool if I hit

758
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: it off with yours. She is she wants her family, Yeah,

759
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: she just like she wants a safe place. She's never

760
00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: felt safe. And and I think it's really interesting to

761
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: understand how, like you said, you know, people who don't

762
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: have a family unit can suffer a lot. People who

763
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: don't have a safe place, even with a chosen family,

764
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: can kind of suffer a lot. And and Brooke and

765
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: Peyton have been each other's chosen family, but they're just

766
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: two sixteen year olds, Like no one can be the

767
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: leader because they're both little girls. So that's a great point.

768
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: Where's the leader? We don't have one. We're just we're

769
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: a team. But like I don't know, we're out like

770
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: trolling around like feral cats. We don't know anything. We

771
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: needed like a cool like student government teacher, you know,

772
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: like a cool teacher, because I had cool teachers in

773
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 1: school that definitely would like wasn't it like a cool

774
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 1: kind of rock and roll vibe like like we needed

775
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: when we were all the kids at tree Hill High

776
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: to have the teacher slash guidance counselor that Hayley James

777
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: becomes later in the show. We never had. We never

778
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: had that. Yeah. Plus back then there was such a

779
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: big separation between the parents and the kids with fashion,

780
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: and it was like very clear who was like mom

781
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: like soccer moms, and then who were the kids tan pants?

782
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: But really it really created a big divide I think

783
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: between the adults and the kids. And I don't know

784
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: what your experiences, Ben Hill as a mom of um,

785
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: well preteen I guess almost, but um, there's less of

786
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: a divide, like there's much more of a I mean,

787
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just a really cool mom. But you know,

788
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: it seems like there's less of a divide between the

789
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: parents and the kids. It seems like, I don't know,

790
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: and is that just my world? I think that we

791
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: hang out with our kids in a different way than

792
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: like our parents generation did. Yeah, you know, that's what

793
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: it is. It's there's we're the communicator. Um. But I

794
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: would say that when I was in school, the there

795
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: were a number of teachers who were really young, like

796
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: right out of college, so they weren't necessarily that much

797
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: older than us, and that made it really easy to

798
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: communicate with them. And so I wish that our girls

799
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 1: had had a woman in their twenties, you know that

800
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: that would have been good for us on set to

801
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: have somewhere a little bit older man, and and good

802
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: for us in the narrative because we were just floating.

803
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have known how to write for them. Yeah,

804
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: all the boys got to have mentors. What the heck?

805
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: They had multiple mentors. It's actually really interesting too, thinking

806
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: about how intense the divide was. Even with our wardrobe.

807
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: Something just clicked for me where I'm like, oh, but

808
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: we were all twenty one three. You know, aside from

809
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: sweet Baby James, who was eighteen this this first season,

810
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: but you know, everyone playing our parents was only like

811
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: fifteen years older than us. They were actually old enough

812
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: to be our real parents. So I think they also

813
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: tried to age them up in dressing them more kind

814
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: of like parental conservative Khaki, Like they didn't want they

815
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: didn't want Deb to be the cool mom because then

816
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: everyone would know she wasn't that much older than us, right, true. Well,

817
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: Deb went through it this episode, Peyton and bro are

818
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: going through it. It's a big, big episode, and it

819
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: was I think this was our winter finale, So I

820
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: think this was the hiatus one that we come We

821
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: stopped like November, what you know or something, and then

822
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 1: come back January seven. These episodes that were airing in February.

823
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember back in the first years of

824
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: our show, we would take March off because every week

825
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: in March was a rolling spring break and the network

826
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: had this obsession shin I guess or this some person

827
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: there was convinced that if we aired episodes over spring break,

828
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: the ratings would go down. Well that's so weird, So

829
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: they would take us off the air for all of

830
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: March and then we'd come back on you. I totally

831
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: forgot about that. It was so weird. That's so weird.

832
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: Well now you all can strain it. Now you can

833
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: watch it in like two days. Just watched Whatever you

834
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: want is our March hiatus, and it's we go out

835
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: on Lucas flat lining, flat lining scary as if the

836
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: surgery wasn't like a dramatic enough point, they were like,

837
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: we really got to go out on this button. By

838
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: the way, when he shows up and the and the

839
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: surgeon has to say, he takes one look at him

840
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: and he goes, he's going to need surgery. I'm like,

841
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: you haven't even examined it. You don't know. Maybe he's

842
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: just got a concussion. He might be fine. He's dramatic,

843
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: you guys, calmed down, he's going to need surgery. I

844
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: mean nothing against the actor, but he had to say

845
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: that line. All, Let's do him most likely to huh. Okay,

846
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: let's to it now now most likely to win Jeopardy. Okay,

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