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Speaker 1: the sun here on a Sunday now afternoon, recapping all

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Speaker 2: I watched a bunch of football yesterday, both American and otherwise.

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited to take a take journey with you,

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Speaker 2: because there's not really any take to be taken with

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Speaker 1: Come on, Well, we have conference champions and we're going

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Speaker 1: to get into that here momentarily. We do have playoff

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Speaker 2: pretty worried against Michigan. The Michigan front which should be

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Speaker 2: healthier against this TCU offensive line, which I think we'll

432
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Speaker 2: get Max dug and eating the live unfortunately in that matchup.

433
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Speaker 2: But that was to me the bummer in this game,

434
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Speaker 2: that there were so many great moments of creativity from

435
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Speaker 2: TCU's offense that in those you know, those huge leverage moments,

436
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Speaker 2: that they decided to roll the dice with that otherwise, No,

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Speaker 2: I mean Kansas State Big twelve champion, Yeah, how cool

438
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Speaker 2: is that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You were in on K State before anybody. Man.

440
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Speaker 2: I was in on K State thinking it was going

441
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Speaker 2: to be a great destination for Adrim Martinez. Like, my

442
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Speaker 2: reasons were not the reasons why it happened. But when

443
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Speaker 2: you have line play and you have somebody like Douce

444
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: Vaughan who will just change the scoreboard in an instant,

445
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Speaker 2: it matters. And we saw that on his long touchdown.

446
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Speaker 2: And you know, with Will Howard, you got to see that. Oh,

447
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,719
Speaker 2: Philip Knowles and or excuse me, Philip Brooks and Malik

448
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 2: Knowles are actual weapons to be scared of. And so

449
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: you saw the ceiling of Kansas State once Will Howard

450
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Speaker 2: got in there, and for them to top it like this,

451
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Speaker 2: such a cool story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, the football gods weren't totally anti

453
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Speaker 1: TCU in this game. They had chances that by the.

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Speaker 2: Way, that's I thought was of safety. I did not

455
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Speaker 2: think his arm was. I thought he was pump faking

456
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Speaker 2: it and it got knocked out and I thought that

457
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Speaker 2: was a bad reversal.

458
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Speaker 1: But yeah, but I mean to your point, right, you

459
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Speaker 1: talk about the offensive line and Max dug In not

460
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Speaker 1: being protected. Yeah, there were at least two really big

461
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Speaker 1: moments in this game there were a direct result of that,

462
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Speaker 1: the safety being one of them. Right, they get the

463
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Speaker 1: call when the safety is overturned. Yeah, but he had

464
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Speaker 1: guys hanging on his back and then there was the

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Speaker 1: play I think it was later on in the game,

466
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Speaker 1: where again facing pressure, backfoot throw picking the red zone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, Who knows what happens if he gets a

468
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Speaker 1: little bit more time if he's not under attack the

469
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Speaker 1: way he was the entirety of that football game. There

470
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Speaker 1: was also another play earlier on when I think it

471
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Speaker 1: was Quentin Johnston fumbled on a nice long pass that

472
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Speaker 1: went down the left side of the field. Case State

473
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Speaker 1: was able to knock the ball free, it sort of

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Speaker 1: popped out. So there were opportunities here for TCU to

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Speaker 1: despite all of those things that went wrong, still tie

476
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Speaker 1: this one up late in the game, still get the win. Ultimately,

477
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Speaker 1: they're not able to do so because of that push, right,

478
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Speaker 1: they decide to go for it. It's fourth and short.

479
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Speaker 1: No can do right, no point zero, So Kansas State

480
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Speaker 1: wins thirty one to twenty eight. Ultimately, on the TCU side,

481
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. They maintain their number three ranking. They

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Speaker 1: will still square off against Michigan. I'm excited to see

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Speaker 1: what they look like in that big moment, but I

484
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Speaker 1: do share that same concern, especially after what we saw

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Speaker 1: from that offensive line against k.

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Speaker 2: State, and we've seen it for I mean, it actually

487
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Speaker 2: adds to how impressive Max Duggan has been this year,

488
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Speaker 2: is the degree of difficulty and how much she's had

489
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Speaker 2: to quickly make decisions because of you know, an offensive

490
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Speaker 2: line that's in slow motion at times.

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Speaker 1: So no, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a great year. And somebody in the comments

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Speaker 2: on verballers dot com mentioned imagine being one of those

494
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Speaker 2: Kansas State fans that was outraged at the Chris Climb

495
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Speaker 2: and Higher a few years ago that he was just

496
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Speaker 2: hired by a buddy at ad Oh. Yeah, terrific and

497
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Speaker 2: Colin Klein, by the way, Colin Klin one of the

498
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Speaker 2: better national offensive coordinators this year.

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Speaker 1: I'd say, so, you could certainly make that case. One

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Speaker 1: final point on Max dug In before we move on

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Speaker 1: to the other action place. Two fifty one through the air,

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Speaker 1: led the team with one to ten on the ground

503
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Speaker 1: and was just a frickin warrior down the stretch. To

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Speaker 1: tie that game up, they relied solely on Max dugg In,

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Speaker 1: mainly on his legs, and he was incredible. He looked

506
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Speaker 1: really really good down the stretch when he.

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Speaker 2: Had to second best team in the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: There good in the country. Elsewhere in conference championship play.

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Speaker 1: We had Georgia winning fifty to thirty over LSU. We

510
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Speaker 1: had Michigan winning forty three to twenty two over Perdue,

511
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Speaker 1: and we had Clemson winning thirty nine to ten over

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. We can start with Georgia and Michigan. These

513
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Speaker 1: were two games that I don't think the results were

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Speaker 1: all that unexpected, nor was it how we got to

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Speaker 1: the final result. In both cases, it was the better

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Speaker 1: team coming out on top, although they took different paths

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Speaker 1: to get there. The Georgia game got out of hand early.

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Speaker 1: That was thirty five to ten at halftime in favor

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Speaker 1: of the Bulldogs. Meanwhile, on the Michigan side, that one

520
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: was sort of a little bit more in doubt at halftime, right,

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Speaker 1: it took a while for Michigan to settle for tech threat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it wasn't until the second half that

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Speaker 1: they really asserted their will. But what stood out to

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Speaker 1: you on the Georgia and Michigan fronts.

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Speaker 2: It's another one of those games. Obviously, there are seasons there.

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Speaker 1: Season.

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Speaker 2: Georgia's was bookended by taking a quality opponent and putting

528
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Speaker 2: the game out of hand immediately against my Oregon Ducks

529
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: of course to open things up, and then against elision

530
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Speaker 2: the SEC Championship game. It's the comfort with which Stetson

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Speaker 2: Bennett operates. I tweeted this out that he finished the

532
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Speaker 2: season against FBS winning teams, leading the nation in completion percentage,

533
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Speaker 2: quarterback rating, and yards per attempt. And you can say,

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Speaker 2: you can make your jokes about him running a car

535
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Speaker 2: dealership as I do. You can make your jokes about, oh,

536
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Speaker 2: he's a system guy. There's all these good players around him,

537
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Speaker 2: he's got the defense, he's got all these advantages, all true,

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Speaker 2: But he's the only one who led the nation in

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Speaker 2: all of this. Right that Ohio State has these players,

540
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Speaker 2: and Alabama has these players, and to a lester extent,

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Speaker 2: Texas has these players on offense, and all these schools

542
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Speaker 2: have the advantages that Georgia has to whatever degree, and

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Speaker 2: it's Stetson Bennett who routinely beats great teams efficiently. And

544
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Speaker 2: so I came impressed with I came away impressed by

545
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Speaker 2: that Georgia spreading the ball around to various running backs.

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Speaker 2: Kendall Milton obviously popped in this game. Lad McConkey early,

547
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Speaker 2: but he's a little bit beat up. Brock Bauers made

548
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: plays and honestly on the other side of the ball,

549
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Speaker 2: I don't know how meaningful it is right now, but

550
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Speaker 2: LSU's ability.

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Speaker 1: Through the air.

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Speaker 2: They never made it a game, but they consistently move

553
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Speaker 2: the ball. Garrett Nusmeyer comes in, of course and makes

554
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: plays improvising to really nice job off platform. Malik Naghbors

555
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: is just really, really good.

556
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Speaker 1: I was really impressed with their passing game so good,

557
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Speaker 1: and like was it Boute Boody who had the long

558
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: touchdown had a long touchdown, And like you said, it

559
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: wasn't as as though they came back to truly make

560
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Speaker 1: it a game. But I do think there is something

561
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Speaker 1: to take away from your team being basically down and

562
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Speaker 1: out knowing it's going to lose, and still playing as

563
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Speaker 1: hard as they did, and especially for Garrett Nesmeyer to

564
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Speaker 1: come in to have that opportunity to go up against

565
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Speaker 1: the Georgia defense. I thought he were really solid. Dan, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I was impressed. I came away impressed by LSU.

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Speaker 1: It was not a game that we thought they were

568
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Speaker 1: going to win one way or the other. In Vegas

569
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Speaker 1: didn't feel that way either, But I just thought the

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Speaker 1: level fight that they showed down the stretch, even in

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Speaker 1: a twenty point loss, even giving up fifty points like

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Speaker 1: it was, it was meaningful on a different level.

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Speaker 2: I thought produed a really nice job first quarter, first

574
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Speaker 2: half of you know, mixing things up, giving Michigan's defense

575
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Speaker 2: a bunch of different looks and getting confused guys got

576
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Speaker 2: behind the Michigan defense sometimes, and I came away impressed

577
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: with that ability. The problem with Purdue against a team

578
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: like Michigan is star power is going to win out

579
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Speaker 2: in less You are just so balls to the wall,

580
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Speaker 2: all gas, no breaks, like going forward in every opportunity

581
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Speaker 2: knowing that your defense eventually is going to wear down

582
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Speaker 2: and that you need to take advantage of every fourth

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Speaker 2: and five, every fourth and three, every fourth and six,

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Speaker 2: especially when it's in plus territory. And Purdue kept charting

585
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Speaker 2: out field goal kickers. Now those I looked it up

586
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Speaker 2: in the either's the college football fourth down bot on

587
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Speaker 2: Twitter where they use AI or whatever everybody uses AI.

588
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Speaker 2: Like you like to say that this show has been

589
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Speaker 2: AI since twenty nineteen, that you know all this, it

590
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Speaker 2: makes more sense. The win expectancy with the field goals

591
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Speaker 2: the same as the win expectancy going okay, then go

592
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Speaker 2: with the aggressive one. Right if it's a toss up,

593
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Speaker 2: toss it in the direction of aggression, because going for

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Speaker 2: those field goals ultimately you're going to have. You know,

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Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell's had some interception issues this year. Will Johnson,

596
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Speaker 2: by the way, emerging as a really strong player for Michigan.

597
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Speaker 2: Just a ballhawk and very I think he was matched

598
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Speaker 2: up against Marvin Harrison junior last week against Ohio State

599
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Speaker 2: and did a pretty admirable job all things considered. Eventually,

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Speaker 2: Donovan Edwards is going to have a crease. Eventually, Cornelius

601
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Speaker 2: Johnson is going to have a crease. Eventually, Ronnie Bell

602
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Speaker 2: is going to have a crease. And Purdue just didn't

603
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Speaker 2: have the playmakers on that level. Good for Michigan. It

604
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: was slow, it was eventually emphatic, and it was the

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Speaker 2: team with the better players and the better big play

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Speaker 2: quarterback who won out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, he didn't need to throw JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: He mentioned the quarterback. He didn't need to throw, no

609
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Speaker 1: because of their style of play, but was good when

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Speaker 1: he had to eleven of seventeen one to sixty six,

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns, one interception. The engine obviously on the ground

612
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Speaker 1: was Donovan Edwards. He looked really good. He had one

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Speaker 1: to eighty five and a touchdown. I was impressed with

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Speaker 1: his vision, with his moves right. You and I talked

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Speaker 1: a little bit off air about this, but he just

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Speaker 1: he knows where the crease is now that he's gotten

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of a look here as the

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Speaker 1: featured back. I think it's easy to see why you

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Speaker 1: can be excited about Donovan Edwards. He definitely came to

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Speaker 1: play and looked good in this matchup. It also helps

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Speaker 1: that Michigan's offensive line gave JJ McCarthy so much protection. Sure,

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Speaker 1: he was sacked exactly zero times. I counted three times

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Speaker 1: where somebody from Purdue almost touched him. Oh right, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a really good masterclass from JJ McCarthy. His elusiveness,

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Speaker 1: his ability to move the pocket. That was part of

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Speaker 1: what I think they wanted when they named him the

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Speaker 1: starter earlier this season. Still saw a little bit of

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Speaker 1: the Techmo Super Bowl in him, where he's running back,

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Speaker 1: back back back, trying to make a hero play. It

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Speaker 1: didn't come back to bite him in this one. I

631
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Speaker 1: don't know if it will against TCU either, but he

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Speaker 1: looked good when he had to. I was actually quite

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Speaker 1: impressed on the purduece side with the play calling. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, Jeff Brohm kind of has his tendency from

635
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: time to time where he can really call a good game,

636
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: and it helps that he has a and O'Connell. It

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00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: helps that, you know, they've been able to make it

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00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: work at running back. Obviously, Charlie Jones aka Chuck Sizzle

639
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: has a bit of a rapport with O'Connell as well.

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Speaker 1: He had a big game one sixty two and thirteen catches.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me. So, I was impressed by what we saw

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Speaker 1: on the Purdue side, at least insofar as the play calling,

643
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Speaker 1: but ultimately what we saw here, despite the fact that

644
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: it was close in the first half, Michigan's defense tightened

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Speaker 1: it up in the third and fourth quarters. They continue

646
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Speaker 1: to play their game to wear down Perdue and that

647
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: was all she wrote. So again, forty three to twenty

648
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: two is your final. Both Georgia and Michigan move on.

649
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: They continue winning. Georgia is the one, Michigan is the two.

650
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: The other Power five championship game will go briefly through

651
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: the group of five here in a moment, Clemson wins

652
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: by twenty two nine over North Carolina. Our concern going

653
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: into this game was that something changed on the UNC front,

654
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: that over the last couple of games it seemed as

655
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: if defenses had figured out their offense. That, in essence,

656
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: was what we saw in this game. Like Drake May

657
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown from about three yards out, it was

658
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: the first UNC possession of the game. They went up

659
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: seven to zero, and it was like pretty much nothing

660
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: after that, right, yeah, pretty much nothing after that. We

661
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: had crucial mistakes from North Carolina. They had a kick blocked,

662
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: We had a pick six, like a ninety eight yard

663
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: pick six that went the other way when UNC was

664
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: deep inside Clemson territory. It was just a really, really

665
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: bad final thirty one minutes or so for North Carolina

666
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: where they didn't do anything.

667
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't have the guys on defense, they don't have

668
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: the pass rush, they don't have the ability to once

669
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: Caid Clubnick comes in to get in the way of

670
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: good passes, and you don't need to get in the

671
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: way of good passes when those passes are overthrown by

672
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 2: a different quarterback, and so that makes things a little

673
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: bit more difficult. Also makes things more difficult when you're

674
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: playing a really good acc defense like North Carolina has

675
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: now played in the last couple weeks with NC State

676
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: and now Clemson. Clemson did a better job getting to

677
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: Drake May and forcing him to improvise, forcing him to

678
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: make decisions more quickly than I'm sure he'd like to.

679
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: And that hasn't always been there for Clemson in terms

680
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: of the pass rush. But I think they were just

681
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: sort of playing with a renewed energy on both sides

682
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: of the ball. And whether it was because of North

683
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: Carolina's defense, whether it was because of Caid Clubnick offering

684
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: already as a freshman, perhaps a more steady hand at quarterback,

685
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: it was on display and so a really impressive win

686
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: for Clemson. And I'm sure Clemson fans are already over

687
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: the moon about what the future holds with Caid Clubnick,

688
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: as I'm sure Djus will play quarterback for another another team.

689
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Clemson, by the way, going to the Orange Bowl

690
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: right now, two and a half point favorite against Tennessee.

691
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: You mentioned Kid club Nick. He got the nod after

692
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: two i believe, two offensive possessions through a touchdown on

693
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: his first drive. The club level now seating all rows.

694
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: Dan I think where the club level is now officially opened.

695
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: He missed his four throws. Yeah, this game, he led

696
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: the team in rushing on the ground. It wasn't a

697
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: huge ground assault for Clemson, but did what he had

698
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: to do on the ground, had a touchdown rushing. Clemson

699
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: also pulled out some trick plays. They had the quarterback throwback,

700
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: they had a fake extra point. They had like a

701
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: megascreen I don't even know what you call it. Like

702
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: a megascreen is going to be my name for it.

703
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 1: When they snapped the ball and the offensive line didn't

704
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: even move, They just let everybody through and then they

705
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: ran a playoff of that.

706
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 2: So you call it the IMAX, right, sure, big screen,

707
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 2: a big effective screen.

708
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, imax. Yeah, I like that. Nine to ten your

709
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: final score. Should we talk through some of the Group

710
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: of five matchups as well? Would love to Tulane wins

711
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: by seventeen over UCF. They led wire to wire despite

712
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: three turnovers, almost six hundred and fifty yards for the offense.

713
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: Big game for Michael Pratt through for nearly four hundred yards,

714
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: had four touchdowns. Taija Spears with also a monster effort

715
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: on the ground one hundred and ninety nine yards. The

716
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: Green Wave putting a nice cap on an eleven and

717
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: two season. Again, we mentioned them earlier, but they're going

718
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: to have usc in the Goodyear Cotton Bowl. Talking about

719
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: that matchup in a bit. Fresno knocks off Boise State

720
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: twenty eight to sixteen. Fresno made Taylor Green look very human, correct,

721
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: very human in this game. Jay Haynder didn't have a

722
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: monster stat line, but came up with big plays when

723
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: Fresno needed them. Unlike most of the games this weekend,

724
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: Dan not a ton of points or yards here. This

725
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: was mostly you know, defensive battle. Fresno won it the

726
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: hard way with field position and plays on special teams

727
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: and not turning the ball over, doing a lot of

728
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: the fundamental stuff correctly. They went again. Twenty eight to sixteen.

729
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: We had Troy forty five to twenty six over Coastal.

730
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: Grayson mccallis back was back. He was out there for

731
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: Coastal and he had a pretty good game. But ultimately

732
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: Troy put up forty five. It's on the back of

733
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: a lot of big scoring plays, a lot of big

734
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: chunk plays to get that forty five and get the win.

735
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: So good for Troy. To win the Sun Belt UTSA

736
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: wins forty eight to twenty seven over the Mean Green

737
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: of North Texas. North Texas had an early lead about

738
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: midway through the second quarter, and that's when Big Frank

739
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: went nuts, Big Frank Harris. They went on a forty

740
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: one to seventeen run to win this one going away.

741
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: He only missed five throws, he had five touchdowns. Zachariah

742
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: Franklin had ten receptions one forty four and three touchdowns.

743
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: Joshua Cephas had eleven receptions for eighty four yards, so

744
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: two guys really getting in on the action there. In

745
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: the passing game. Toledo won by ten, seventeen to seven

746
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: over Ohio. Ohio could not get it going without Curtis

747
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: Rourke play good defense. It was close to the whole

748
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: way through, but Toledo wins the Battle of Ohio and

749
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: last would certainly not least not a conference championship game

750
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: per se. But the Crossaders go full army and run

751
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: fifty five times for over three hundred yards and four

752
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: touchdowns to knock off the Shire thirty five to nineteen.

753
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: Holy Cross, Are you gonna make the nine hour drive

754
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: over to South Dakota next week?

755
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: Which its South Dakota State.

756
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: South Dakota State.

757
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, nine hours.

758
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: It's a casual nine hours though it's an easy drive.

759
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: Do I have to take any of my family members?

760
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's your call. It's a great family experience

761
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: to go to South Dakota State.

762
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 2: No, I'm I would love a solo nine hour drive

763
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: just to just chill. Maybe get some t bell halfway through.

764
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: You can get a direct flight from O'Hare to Brookings

765
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: South drive.

766
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 2: I like the me time. Okay, As for the games

767
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: you mentioned and went through, where is your tamper meter

768
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: with Michael Pratt and Notre Dame? Is it full? Devon

769
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 2: Leary like, is he worth the tampering time?

770
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: Listen? I will take whoever Notre Dame is able to

771
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: reel in.

772
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, just point you in the direction and you'll tamper away. Okay,

773
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: good to know. Really nice job defensively from Fresno's That

774
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: was the big deal to me that they had playmakers

775
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: on defense that stepped up even when the offense wasn't

776
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: fully there. But yes, you're right, they did make Taylor

777
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: Green and the Boise State offense uncomfortable. Really nice bounce

778
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: back here for Andy Avlos even better year for Jeff Tedford,

779
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: surviving a quarterback injury halfway through, which seemed to be

780
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: a set pack, but once Jake Hayner was back, really

781
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: nice finish to their year. They finished what nine and

782
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: four with a chance to win obviously a tenth not

783
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: bad in Jeff for its first year. It seemed to

784
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: work out for everybody kind of in that trade with

785
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: not trade but Kalin de Borr moving on, h Jeff

786
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: Tedford coming back. Really impressive way for UTSA to storm back.

787
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: UTSA has Troy, I believe right we mentioned that in

788
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 2: their bowl game? Is that the Cure? Did I get

789
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: that right?

790
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? It's Troy against UTSA a Pickham right now, the

791
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: Deluge Trading Cure Bowl, get the name right?

792
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: Oh?

793
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: Excuse me? Yeah?

794
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: Otherwise, what else did you mention? Toledo? You're right, that

795
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: was a defensive performance obviously, Ohio could get basically nothing

796
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: going on offense. And I don't know what else did

797
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: you mean in UTSA North Texas? Yeah, North Texas up early,

798
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: but no, it was a fun day of football. And yeah,

799
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: Tulane just offensively laid the lumber and to do it

800
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: at home on the home field and Transitive Big tou

801
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: twelve Championship as well. Now for Tulane and they get

802
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: for their troubles to go to Sugar Bowl.

803
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Tulane goes to the Cotton Bowl.

804
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: Excuse me? Cotton Bowl against usc Sugar Bowl is Kansastate Bama? Yeah?

805
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: So other bowl matchups here as we are recording, some

806
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: that have started to come through, and many are are

807
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: still yet to be confirmed, just rumors at this point.

808
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: But we've got Ohio and Wyoming in the Barstool Arizona Bowl.

809
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: We've got Georgia Southern and Buffalo and the Camellia Bowl.

810
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, Georgia Southern and Buffalo. Is that a

811
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: Van Trees Bowl?

812
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: It might be a Van Trees Bowl? Yeah?

813
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 2: Am I getting my teams right?

814
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 1: I believe that's correct? Okay, correct tickets smarter Birmingham Bowl.

815
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: We've got East Carolina against Coastal Carolina. Oh like that.

816
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: The First Responder Bowl looks like Utah State Memphis, the

817
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: Easy Post Hawaii Bowl whatever that is. We've got San

818
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: Diego State minus four right now against Middle Tennessee. We've

819
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: got Houston and Louisiana in the Independence Bowl. All right,

820
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: South Alabama Western Kentucky. Actually a low key, very good game.

821
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: In the New Orleans I would watch that. That's a

822
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: very good matchup. Yeah, in the New Orleans Bowl, the

823
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: Boca Bowl is Toledo against the Liberty. Okay. In the

824
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: Idaho Tatle Bowl, we've got San Jose State eas or Michigan,

825
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach Bowl, Yukon Hell, Yeah, squaring off against Marshall.

826
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: Frisco Bowl is Boise against North Texas, Lending Tree Bowls

827
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: Southern Miss against Rice. Rice going to the Bowls Yep,

828
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: the aforementioned Jimmy Kimmel bowle Fresno State against Wazoo, Mexico

829
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: Bowl BYU against SMU Cure Boll, Troy against UTSA. And

830
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: the final bowl game here that's been confirmed is the

831
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: Bahamas Bowl UAB against Miami Ohio Dan.

832
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: So there is the potential because it hasn't been announced

833
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: yet for Oregon Notre Dame. Is that true? In the

834
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: holiday that is true? Man December twenty eighth, there we go. Yeah,

835
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: Petco Park no longer at the Murph. Well, we should

836
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: do something fun for it somehow someways.

837
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: See what we can do. Yeah, we'll see if that

838
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: comes to fruition. More Bowl games will be announced here

839
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: over the next couple hours or so. We should have

840
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: a pretty good sense for what the map look like.

841
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: If you sign up at for Ballers dot com, you

842
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: can be part of the Winter Wonders Bowl confidence Pool.

843
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: I think our plan is to do a big show

844
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: and go through all of the matchups in one show.

845
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: Of course, in the past we've done it in parts,

846
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: and that just doesn't work for me. You need to

847
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: really get all of the matchups, all forty one Bowl

848
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: matchups in one big episode. So we will work on that.

849
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: In the meantime, we would hope that you would work

850
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: on getting more folks into this bullpool, the Winter Wonders

851
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: Bullpoll for Ballers dot Com. I would love that.

852
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: Do we have the full rankings yet of the top

853
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: twenty five? I think I have them in front of me.

854
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: If you want to go over them, I.

855
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: Would love to. So we already read through the top ten,

856
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: but the remainder of the top twenty five is as follows.

857
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: Case State moves up two to number eleven. Of course

858
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: they won the Big twelve. Washington through no fault of

859
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Speaker 1: their own, drops three to number twelve. Washington again a

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Speaker 1: ten and two season. For what it's worth, we had

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Speaker 1: Florida State at thirteen, Tulane all the way up to

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Speaker 1: fourteen with an eleven and two season, they go up five.

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Speaker 1: Oregon stands pat at number fifteen with a nine and

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Speaker 1: three season, LSU drops to number sixteen. Oregon State finishes

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Speaker 1: nine to three at number seventeen. We had UCLA, Notre Dame,

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Speaker 1: and South Carolina at eighteen, nineteen and twenty Texas, UTSA, Troy,

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Speaker 1: Mississippi State, and NC State to round out the official

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Speaker 1: top twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Dan, interesting and sorry, did you mention Miami?

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Speaker 1: I didn't out there. I keep refreshing here. I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen them. I'm looking yeah, weird.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how do you feel about how this all played out?

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about just instant takeaway from the

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00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: matchups we had? We have ahead of us in the playoff?

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Speaker 2: Who's in? Who's out? Just talk to me from your heart?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I feel optimistic about the playoff matchups.

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Speaker 1: I feel optimistic that they won't be blowouts. I think

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Speaker 1: both have blowout potential. But Georgia Ohio State is definitely

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Speaker 1: the kind of matchup that I had envisioned. It is

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Speaker 1: the matchup that I envisioned the start of the year

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Speaker 1: for the National Championship. So I think that's a hell

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Speaker 1: of a contest in the semi final. Ohio State's got

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Speaker 1: some stuff to clean up, but it is two contrasting styles.

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Speaker 1: And though we've seen Ohio State already lose in the

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Speaker 1: matchup of styles, a similar matchup of styles against Michigan,

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Speaker 1: who knows what it looks like in the playoff game

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Speaker 1: with a month to heal up and get ready and prepped.

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Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued by that matchup. The Michigan TCU one,

889
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Speaker 1: to me, feels like the more lopsided of the two.

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Speaker 2: Interesting and see, I don't know if I agree with that,

891
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Speaker 2: but yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like Michigan will do to TCU what

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Speaker 1: they've done to everybody, and that is run it until

894
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: your defensive line bleeds and then find a way to

895
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Speaker 1: add on a little bit of patting down the stretch

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Speaker 1: in the second half. But then you look, can see

897
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Speaker 1: what guy like a Max Duggan did down the stretch

898
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Speaker 1: against k State, and you wonder, okay, with a player

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Speaker 1: like that, a difference maker like that on the TCU side,

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Speaker 1: will he find another way to make a play down

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Speaker 1: the stretch and make that Michigan game a little bit closer.

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Speaker 1: So the two matchups, definitely, Georgia Ohio State is the

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Speaker 1: one that is most intriguing to me. Michigan TCU not

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Speaker 1: as much. I'm definitely much more on the Michigan side.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm more on the Michigan side, but I

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Speaker 2: want to look at the totality of the matchup. I

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Speaker 2: just I would worry about TCU going down the way

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Speaker 2: that they have early on in games, and Michigan being

909
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: especially difficult to climb back again. Take the air out

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Speaker 2: of the ball, right, Just take the air out of

911
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: the ball and continue. Now, Look, no, Blake harm does

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Speaker 2: change something because he might be the best player on

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Speaker 2: the team, and so that changes something. You know, the

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Speaker 2: depth that running back takes a hit, so they can't

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Speaker 2: continually keep coming at you with different guys. I think

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Speaker 2: the passing game, if they get involved in a game

917
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Speaker 2: that they have to win thirty eight thirty five, suddenly

918
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Speaker 2: I'm very worried about Michigan, right if you know, it

919
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Speaker 2: changes the calculus of what Michigan is and isn't able

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Speaker 2: to do. But no, I think both of these games

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Speaker 2: are fascinating. I see Michigan TCU as being more competitive

922
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Speaker 2: because DCU appears to have the better quarterback, and so

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Speaker 2: that's a big deal to me. As for Georgia Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: as I mentioned earlier, I see going in a number

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Speaker 2: of directions, and Georgia will not have played a team

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Speaker 2: with as many excellent receivers as Ohio State and potentially

927
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Speaker 2: with as many playmakers on defense, especially upfront. But you know,

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Speaker 2: there's also no accounting for questionable coaching, which Ohio State

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Speaker 2: also brings to the table sometimes. So I think I

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Speaker 2: like the undefeated teams a little bit more, But I

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Speaker 2: got to go back and rewatch and fully make up

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Speaker 2: my mind.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well there you go, folks. That does it

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Speaker 1: for the college football regular season. We have our top

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Speaker 1: four again to recap. It's going to be Georgia against

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, it's going to be Michigan against TCU. We're

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Speaker 1: going to be here throughout the totality of December, really

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Speaker 1: the rest of the calendar year, because college football always

939
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Speaker 1: gives us so much to talk about, tell your friends

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Speaker 1: going out to forballers dot com. Much more to come

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Speaker 1: on the Winter Wonders Bowl Confidence Pool. I promise you

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Speaker 1: will be talking a lot more about that in the

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Speaker 1: coming days and weeks.

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Speaker 2: Florida State, Oklahoma, and the cheese At Bowl. According to Andrew,

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Speaker 2: I love it in the comments. Also, this is not

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Speaker 2: a news show. Sneak preview of our next show. Dion

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Speaker 2: Sanders is coaching Colorado sneak preview. Yeah, he apparently just

948
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Speaker 2: got a five star receiver from the class of Brace

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Speaker 2: Yourself twenty twenty five. Yeah, Deon Sanders Colorado coach.

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Speaker 1: Sneak preview of the next episode.

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Speaker 2: How about it could go as well as it did

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Speaker 2: at Jackson State. We'll see for that guy over there,

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Speaker 2: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrandt, thanks

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Speaker 2: again for downloading, for listening, for supporting us all season long.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to you in just a few short days.

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Speaker 1: Much much more to get through here in the world

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Speaker 1: of college football.

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Speaker 2: Stay solid, peace,