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Speaker 1: Greg, how's it going. How's everybody doing this year? We're

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Speaker 1: doing great. How is your summer? Summer was good? Summer

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Speaker 1: run I would never run you over. But do you

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Speaker 1: I don't really ride much in in traffic areas. It's

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Speaker 1: work on that. Built another year, another training camp. You know,

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Speaker 1: every year you've talked about this before new team, new

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Speaker 1: challenges would have been some of the things that you

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Speaker 1: defense side of the football. Well, I think it's training

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Speaker 1: we all have to re establish that every year, and

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Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. It starts with fundamentals, it starts

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Speaker 1: So I'll always want them done sooner, and they're going

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Speaker 1: it takes a while every year, and so that's what

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter, it's it's the same for all of us.

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Speaker 1: We all have a lot of work to do. Bill.

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Speaker 1: all right, thank you, all right then Bill Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: on a Patriots Monday