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They are Power 18 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: Couple Jeff and the Cold Friday, both for HBCU graduates 19 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: of Howard University. Jeff is the founder and CEO of 20 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: the American Black Film Festival, and the Cold is the 21 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: president and general manager the American Black Film Festival. The 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: a BFL is an annual event dedicated to recognizing black 23 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: talent and showcasing quality film and television content by and 24 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: about people of African American descent. And the festivals returned 25 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: to Miami Beach. Come on, so I got it too 26 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: excited thing? Sorry about that. The festivals now celebrating this 27 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: twenty fifth year. We'll be discussing the festival objectives, their 28 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: partnership deals with Sony Pictures, Entertainment and Endeavor Content, and 29 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: most importantly, how the two successfully worked together in business 30 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: as partners as a married couple. Please work in the 31 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: money making conversations, Jeff and the co Friday, How my 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: team doing? Come on, y'all, how y'all doing. I gotta 33 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: go to my man Jeff, because I've been knowing him 34 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: a long, because I've been following them since nightty seven. 35 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: You know when I when I was when he was 36 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: down to Acca Poco, the very first one. You know, 37 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: when I just wrapped up writing on the sitcom with 38 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: Robert Towns's Parenthood, And that was the very first. That 39 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: was the very first one officially, wasn't it in ninety seven? Correct, 40 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: that's right, and thank you for your support. Yet ninety 41 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: seven was the first year, and Robert was right there 42 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: with it. He's one of the first people, uh, that 43 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: we called when we decided to do this festival for 44 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: black and brown folks. So I gotta shout out my 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: brother Robert. Well, you know, I was telling him, you know, 46 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: he's important in my life. I was at the time 47 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: I got into sitcom. Steve Harvey gave me my first 48 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: writing job on ABC, Me and the Boys, and uh 49 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: it was unsa only his league canceled and I had 50 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: no nowhere to go, and Robert Cowncord called me and 51 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: he hired me. And I always tell him every time 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: I see him. Without him about I wouldn't have a 53 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: career in Hollywood because he trusted my voice, he trusted 54 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: my writing skills. And when I talk about things like that, 55 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: that's why it's important to have people empower people who 56 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: are trying to deliver the message or the creative support 57 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: or the platform for black and people of color. So 58 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: that's why this film Festival is so important. That's why 59 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: I have to say It's not something that just came 60 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: around last week. It's something that's been around. But it 61 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: had to start somewhere, and it started with you. Why 62 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: did it start with you? Jeff? Yeah. You know, it's 63 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: funny because people always answer that question at I think 64 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: the most um accurate response I could give is because 65 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: I was I was working in advertising in n and 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: when I would go to major film festivals, I never 67 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: saw black and brown people. I primarily saw white men, 68 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: and I was, you know, I was impressed with what 69 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: I would see, and it was creative, and it was 70 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: deals getting made, and you know, there's a whole industry 71 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: around film that people that we don't only think about, right, 72 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: and festivals are market for buying and selling movies. And 73 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: I just didn't see brothers and sisters there, you know, 74 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: And I thought that that needed to be a change 75 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: in my nature. And when I don't, when I see 76 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: something that brings me discomfort, I don't complain about I 77 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: just I just do something about it. So, you know, 78 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: we've always been very action oriented, and we decided I 79 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: partnered with Byron Lewis and Warrenton, there were two of 80 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: my mentors and friends, and we created the festival. We 81 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: did the first one, as you know, in Acapulco, Mexico. 82 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: UM ninety people showed up the first time, and for 83 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: all the millennials out there, there were no cell phones, 84 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: there was no Instagram, we had no convenient ways of 85 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: even promoting it. You know. We just kind of went 86 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: around in different cities and got on radio shows and 87 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: things like this, and it just became a thing and 88 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: ninety people showed up. But the first year we had 89 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: Robert as we said, halle Berry was there. Bill Duke 90 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: has been a friend forever and it's a big time 91 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: supporter of every thing that we've done. Um Baby Faced, 92 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: Debbie Allen, Regina King, you know, people like that. So 93 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: we really got off to a great start and we 94 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: and we realized after that first week John that it 95 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: really was we really were filling in the filling a gap, 96 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: filling a need for bringing black people together in film 97 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: and TV. And that's really been our story and our 98 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: mission for the past twenty five years now, you know, black, 99 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: black and brown people together in film and which was 100 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: really a journey. And when you bring in the cold 101 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: and the cold you have that always tell you have 102 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: like that third eye, you know, because you're seeing it. 103 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: You know he started it. And sometimes when you just 104 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: start something, you grinding and and then some of the 105 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: things you don't see because you're so protective sometimes and 106 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: sometimes you just say this is the way I want 107 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: to do it. But when you bring that third eye 108 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: in the cold, that's what you brought. You the president 109 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: general manager of the a BFF. What did you see 110 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: when word When I say the word change, change is good, 111 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: but also people can perceive change is bad, something we're wrong. 112 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: What did you see that they elevated the platform of 113 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: a BFM. Yeah, I mean I would say that it 114 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: wasn't something that I saw that needed to be changed. 115 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: It was definitely definitely more growth opportunities um that I 116 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: think we have been able to do together. And I 117 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: always like to tell people I've been like and I 118 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: want to take too much credit, but I've been the 119 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama for years. I've been I've been the pillow talker. 120 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: I've been behind the scenes, always knowing what's going on 121 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: and lending a helping hand from AFAR and recently within 122 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: the past five years, I guess I've really been on 123 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: the front lines with Jeff as his as his partner 124 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: and what we've been able to do together. Um. You 125 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: know what he has started obviously was was a need 126 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: for this platform to create diversity and inclusion, and we 127 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: continued to build that through the years and even last 128 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: year when we had to we couldn't be in Miami 129 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: obviously because of the pandemic. We decided that we wanted 130 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: to still keep a play is to have a place 131 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: for the community because it's so important for the filmmakers 132 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: to be able to showcase their talent, and what better 133 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: place to do it than than the American Black Film Festival. 134 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: So we didn't want to just go away last year. 135 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: We don't want to do anything. We wanted to have 136 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: a place, and so we built the platform a virtual 137 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: platform so that we could have those filmmakers UM showcase 138 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: their their artistry. UM, so that you know, we wouldn't 139 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: miss a beat, they wouldn't miss a beat. UM. But 140 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: I think that it's just been growth, and so that's 141 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: part of the growth that I've been able to help 142 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: Um lead or help help Jeff do. Side by side, 143 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: I would say that, well, you know, the thing, the 144 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: thing about it is that when when I when I 145 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: communicate with both of you, guys, Jeff because he brought 146 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: up Byron Lewis. I remember the first time I was 147 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: sitting in Byron Lewis office and Byron news is and 148 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: founder just a background, see if we created UNI World, 149 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: one of the largest black media advertising is based in 150 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: New York. Also have headquarters in Detroit, Michigan. And that's 151 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: the first time I really you know, a b F 152 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: F kmr RD because he was talking about Miami. He 153 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: was asking me Rashaan, you know, we was talking about 154 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: different that and so the thing I liked about my 155 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: relationship with Jeff is that I've always been a fan 156 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: and people have always asked me and like, like, I know, 157 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: I've gotten Jeff on when I was managing Stephen running 158 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: the morning show Steve Hart. I've gotten them on that 159 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: because I always felt what he was doing was necessary, 160 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,559 Speaker 1: it was important because but there was a period where 161 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: right now, you guys seemed like to be at the 162 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 1: right place at the right time, because there's so many 163 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: black muvies out there's so many great black television shows, 164 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: it's so many black documentaries. But it was a period 165 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: that Jeff when when reality TV and black people are 166 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,239 Speaker 1: just beating each other up, and cousin and throw a 167 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: look a glass at each other. That was a dark 168 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: period to me as a writer for black entertainment, and 169 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't out there. So how did you ride that moment? 170 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: Because right now this is like, you know, ever since, 171 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: especially since a Black Panther, the whole black creative has exploded, 172 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, Netflix in the streaming world. So I think 173 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: you have to be at the point where you go, Man, 174 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: this ride is about to get even greater. And Nicole 175 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: you said right there with him, you know, with your 176 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: visionary as well as your husband's being a visionary. So 177 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: talk about that period, Jeff, did you know what I'm 178 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: talking about? Man? When it was like really this is 179 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: what this this this the black perspective in the media. Yeah, 180 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: it was worse than you Well, you know how bad 181 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: it was that you've been on the ride. But you know, 182 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: I remember doing an interview and I won't say the 183 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: publication because the publication supports us now, right, So let's 184 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: let's bygones be bygones, if you say right. I remember 185 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: I remember doing the interview in this woman came to 186 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: Acapulco and she said, in a very sarcastic tune, Jeff, 187 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: why are you guys doing this? Why are you doing this? Right? 188 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: In a very sarcastic tone. And this is a major, 189 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: major industry trade publication. And I said, excuse me. She said, well, 190 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: why why a black footh But why does the world 191 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: need a black filth festal? And she just set herself 192 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: up and I and I just said because Hollywood and 193 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: when and I just came. I never had that thought before, 194 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: but those two words came together. Because Hollywood, That's why 195 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: we're doing it. And Rushawn, as you well know that 196 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: there've been this has been an industry where they've been 197 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: tremendous inequities for people of color, and black people probably 198 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: have it better than everybody else with color, right when 199 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: you talk about Latino and Asian and Indian and and so, 200 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: this is what they work. This is what Hollywood has been. 201 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: Hollywood's a hundred plus years old. And for the whole ride, 202 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: until Oscar so white, nobody had a conscious about black coach. 203 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: No one was really in supporting So listen, I don't 204 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: think that I look at it a little differently. We 205 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: had a vision for what Hollywood needed to look like. 206 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: In Hollywood just caught up to us. I didn't respond 207 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: because when we started, Hollywood wasn't thinking about black and brown. 208 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: It was doing exactly what you said. A couple of 209 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: black movies we got we we got to two thousand. 210 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: Everything became about reality show and black people in content. 211 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: And as a black writer, you know how many black 212 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: writers are working the day and and got deals at studios, 213 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: and first looked that if they were fifteen years older, 214 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: they would have been doing nothing like this whole generation 215 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: of writers that are doing great, you know, and I 216 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: love it, but it had they been fifteen years older, 217 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: they would have experienced what you're talking about. Right, but 218 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: there's nothing to write, and so we feel blessed to 219 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: have had the vision and the person veriance. And yes, 220 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: Nicole is the the third eye. That's a perfect analogy 221 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: because I felt like you're in my head when you 222 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: said that, Because as a founder, you get so obsessed 223 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: with the details and the hustle and the grind. You 224 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: often can't see things because your mind is not clear sometimes, 225 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: so you do need that that person who you trust 226 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: to be that third and that's been her role and 227 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, and we've been doing this together since since 228 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: she joined me at the second one. The third, whatever 229 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: year was, But you know it's been it's been a 230 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: long lit me stop him. He don't know, he don't remember, 231 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: you remember. See what I'm saying that from me getting 232 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: in trouble days time, the wedding days, I don't birth day. 233 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: Why you say over two decades? That the decades, brother, brother, 234 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: She's been with me for more than two decades. That see, 235 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: I love But you know, you know the code when 236 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: you talk about president, you're talking about general manager, you 237 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: talk about you know, because this this ride is always 238 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: filled with people doubting, people are questioning the need. You know, 239 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: because you got the can Film Festival, whether literally, white 240 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: folks over there looking good looking, great cameras clicking and everything, 241 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: and you invite black people to your things, they go, 242 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: why what's happening? Who they are? And so turning that 243 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: lands in your direction? How were you able to turn 244 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: that land and keep it steady on the platform that 245 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: that you and Jeff have built to this brand today 246 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: that's well respected. By the way. Let me just let 247 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: everybody know because that's important because somehow people go, wow, 248 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: I want to be a part of that, because I 249 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: know people ask me, they tell me, and so Nicole 250 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: you're the president of general manager, to talk about your role, 251 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: talk about things that annoy you, that have annoyed you 252 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: that you you know that you won't let nobody disrespect 253 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: the brand, and you have to check people periodically, let 254 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: them know that this content is a is a has 255 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: a purpose and will continue to grow. You know, the 256 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: proof is in the pudding. Honestly, it has been. It 257 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: has been a slow bill and many stories are You 258 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: look at them and they seem like they're overnight successes. 259 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: A b FF has not done that. It may seem 260 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: that way to some, but it has been twenty five 261 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: years of grinding and I would say probably you said 262 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: something really interesting maybe in the last I don't know, Jeff, 263 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: you could help me out a little bit here, but 264 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: maybe the last five years have we really gotten the 265 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: mainstream notoriety that we've deserved um long ago. I mean 266 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: when I say the proof is in the pudding, there 267 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: are there are stars that have come through the festival 268 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: that we're not stars when we started, when they started, uh. 269 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: And so I think because of that, because those people 270 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: have remained connected to us throughout these years, no matter 271 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: what level they've been on, I think that that has 272 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: brought some attention to what we've been doing for a 273 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: really long time. UM. And as the president and general manager, 274 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean Jeff was right. I didn't I bring a 275 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: different perspective. And when you've been doing it for as 276 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: long as Jeff has been doing and I've been alongside 277 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: of him, UM, sometimes you don't see the reason why 278 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: you should continue to do this. And there's always a moment. 279 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: There's always a moment, whether it's something someone said or 280 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: something someone did, or whether it's talent, or whether it's 281 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: a a partner of ours, or whether it's just um, 282 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, an an audience member or an attendee that 283 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: has come to the vessel. There's always a reason why 284 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: we say, you know what this is, this is important. 285 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: But we've done here, We've done something here, UM, and 286 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: this is important and we have to keep doing it. 287 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: And that's what keeps us going. That's what keeps me 288 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: in this presidential seat, that's what keeps me as as 289 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: the general manager. Uh. And and certainly that's what keeps 290 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: Jeff going as the founder and the CEO of this organization. 291 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: And there have been times, tell you, there have been 292 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: times when we've said we're done. Um, but those moments 293 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: that come and happen really are those that keep us going. 294 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: And and even when we get you know, even moments 295 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: like these, when we talk to people and you give 296 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: us an opportunity to share what we've been doing and 297 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: why we've been doing it, it's so important to to 298 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: keep going. And we recognize that and it and it 299 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: has not been easy for me five years. And you 300 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: asked me, what are some of the pet peeves that 301 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: people do? Um, I'd say what you just said. 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Welcome 346 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: back to money making Conversation. As I continue my conversation 347 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: with both the President and the general manager of the 348 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: American Black Film Festival, Jeff and Nicole Friday. Well, you know, 349 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: I always see that you guys are to me like 350 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: the comic con you know, uh, just black media, black film, 351 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: black television. But you can't be great unless you have content. 352 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: And that's where the last five years is delivering to 353 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: your brand, quality content, not the same person, new content, 354 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: new branding, new stars, new directors, new producers, you know, 355 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: independence that are that are rising and breaking through those 356 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: those models. That's what gets me excited about the fifth years, 357 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: the twenty six years or twenty seven year because you 358 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: know what, it's not gonna stop because streaming is not 359 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: going to allow it to stop. Streaming has changed the 360 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: game because that content they need has to come from somewhere. 361 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: And the reason I love what what Netflix has done, 362 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't realize is that because 363 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm just telling how people who are listening and watching 364 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: my show, they premier movies on a hundred and ninety markets, 365 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: countries worldwide, contries worldwide. Usually when you have black content, 366 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: it just premiers domestically. It doesn't even see international waters. 367 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: And so what has happened is they've they've opened up 368 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: the doors and exposed our quality level of entertainment worldwide now. 369 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: And so when I look at the A BFF, your 370 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: brand is now worldwide and you're starting to reap the 371 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: benefits of that brand association. So tell me, Jeff, what 372 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: does this feel like for you? Because I'm excited. Man 373 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: is in Miami. You know, COVID steals there. But we're 374 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: coming out of it. You know, I've done just I've 375 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: just finished doing three live events in Alabama, Georgia, and 376 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: North Carolina and people showed up. They wore masks, but 377 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,239 Speaker 1: they feel comfortable. So I'm excited. Man, talk to us 378 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: about the year. Yeah, so this year, of course, it 379 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: is a big year for us. But this year we 380 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: decided because of COVID that we would not be in 381 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: the Miami Live. We'll be back in Miami in June 382 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: two for our anniversary, but we got we But what 383 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: we've done is we've built a virtual platform. So the 384 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: festival goes up November three. On our platform, we have 385 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: our own version of Netflix and to a degree it's 386 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: called a fifth Play. We have our own streaming online 387 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: streaming platform. So we're excited about a hundred We have 388 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: a hundred and two movies and about twenty five talk events. 389 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: We're opening with the world premiere of King Richard from 390 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: Warner Brothers starring Will Smith. So we had this amazing, 391 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: amazing lineup of robust content across and film chan films 392 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: from thirty five countries around the world. So we are 393 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: we're we're creating what we call a global a worldwide 394 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: digital experience is going up November three. The best news 395 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: is the festival is completely free, so anyone anywhere around 396 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: the world can enjoy the movies, they see the talk events, 397 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: and be a part of a v f F F this year, 398 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: and we're gonna return strong in you know, God willing 399 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: will be back and we'll be somewhat more recovered from COVID. 400 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll be back in Miami of June of next year. 401 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: I'm waiting on your brother. Like I said, I know, 402 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: I just finished the HBCU tour event. You know, I 403 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: was on the campus Alabama State. Then I went to 404 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: the campus, went to Salem State, and then I wrapped 405 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: it up. It was a HBCU college day. And I 406 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: won't tell you, but I definitely want you guys involved 407 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: because I'm fall back out in the spring, you know, 408 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, and and a lot of people pushed back 409 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: on me with Sean, you're gonna do this, And I 410 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: had to do it, man. I had to. First of all, 411 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: I needed to get these young kids back seeing the 412 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: options of education and that had been denying them in 413 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: That was the first and then thirdly from my I 414 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: had to I had to show everybody that black people 415 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: want to move forward. They're not afraid of this. We 416 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: can do it safely. You know, had masks, you know, 417 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: hand sanitizer with social distance. Uh, you know people was 418 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: in Alabama State campus. Uh. The event was free to 419 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: attend um, you know. And then I was in Uh 420 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: was the Salem four thousand people showed up on the campus. 421 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: Was in the parking lot right next to the stadium, 422 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: but football stadium. And then we was writing in the 423 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: heart of Clark, Atlanta on nearly three thousand people showed up. 424 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: Here was the President's parking lot. And so the beauty 425 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: of what we're trying to do is is moved forward. 426 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: And when I look at what your festival has done, man, 427 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: virtual alive. Man, it's just it's just a game changer. 428 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: And I guess, Nicole, when I talked to Jail, because 429 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: you know, I look at him because I've seen him, 430 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: I've seen him from a far and you and and 431 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: and and the fact that you've been there two decades 432 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: and you and I this first time we're talking. I'm 433 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: always kind of annoying him a little bit, you know, 434 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: because I didn't know he had the right hand man 435 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: that was out there, you know, pushing them up and 436 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: making them strong like that. You know, well, man, you 437 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: know saying I apologize pushing him up like this. But 438 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: but you you're like me. You know, I'm a background guy. 439 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm a producer. You know, I'm a director. I'm an 440 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: executive producer, and that's my role. But in the end, 441 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: what do you what do you see being in virtual 442 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: and then moving? Because I know you're all forward thinkers, 443 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: you're already playing in Miami, you already knowing the two 444 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: is going to exist. You know, the sponsors are to 445 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,239 Speaker 1: come at you from a different perspective. I know, back 446 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: in the day, I was thinking of y'all to all 447 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: that stuff down in Miami and all that stuff, you know, 448 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: saying what does it look like this year and what 449 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: does it look like in the twenty six year? When Nicole, 450 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: make sure you tell about the comedy in London too, 451 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't think what y'all knows about that we're in 452 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: London too. That's why I got we haven't been talking 453 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: about what the code you take it, but talking Yeah, well, 454 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: you know you you mentioned you mentioned how we're global. 455 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: Now we really are over and we're going over for 456 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: two reasons. One, we launched a b F London Festival 457 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: UH in London UH in nineteen and so that was 458 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: our first with our partners Sony Pictures Entertainment. That was 459 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: our first festival. So we did travel over UM which great. 460 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: We are global. And then last year, as I mentioned, 461 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: because we were not able to be in Miami because 462 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: of the pandemic, we built a platform which Jeff just mentioned, 463 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: a b F play and we still housed our festivals. 464 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: So with that we reached ninety different countries. So there's 465 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: a lot of people globally who know about a b 466 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: F now go down to Nigeria because w come on that. 467 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: We we had we we definitely had some Nigerians or 468 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: the platform last year. So it's exciting and I'll go 469 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: back to the growth opportunity, you know, it's exciting to 470 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: be able to have that reach. And so what we 471 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: intended on doing this year though we are not in Miami, 472 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: we were always going to be a hybrid festival. We're 473 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: gonna have a physical presence in Miami. We're also going 474 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: to have our global presence or virtual presence on the platform. 475 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: But because Covid uh, you know, continued. We decided to 476 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: just go virtual again this year and like Jeff said, 477 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: really really really excited about that. This year we also 478 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: launched UM a comedy festival. In June, we launched a 479 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: v F Comedy Festival because, as you probably know, at 480 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: the festival, we have a comedy on called Comedy Wings, 481 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: and thought, you know, this is this is a great 482 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: time and an opportunity for us to have a festival 483 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: that's focused on of comedians and comedy writers. Um, there's 484 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: so much content out there, There's so many talented people 485 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: out there. Who are you are capable of who are 486 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: capable of comedy and and funny writing? And um, and 487 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: and that festival that's that's that's what actually sort of 488 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: it's like the what's the same if I told you 489 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: that we that you attended just for just for last 490 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: Montreal and then asked me coming in festival? I know 491 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: both for those is just for laughs in Montreal. You 492 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: know the thing about it, I'm just gonna tell you 493 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: both for this is a compliment, you know. And let 494 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: me just tell you when I when I when I 495 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: talk about how the Nigerian and knowledge Wood, that's what 496 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: they call the knowledge wood down there. You know that's 497 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: they waiting on y'all. They just waiting on y'all because 498 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: y'all all the voice, y'all all the truth. And I'm 499 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: just gonna tell you when I when I see it. 500 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: When you have when you have a legacy, when you 501 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: have a background, you walk in the open the doors 502 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: and you say, sometimes you gotta set down route someplace 503 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: else for you to be respecting to go, wow, we 504 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: part of this. You guys are doing it. I want 505 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: you all to continue to do it. But what I 506 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: want you to do for me, do me a favor. 507 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: Keep me in the loop. Let's keep me, Jeff, keep 508 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: me in the loop. Somebody ter rashan when you're doing 509 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: these things, because I could promote it, you gotta send 510 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: me a banner, send me a flyer, because that's how 511 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: you need to be recognized. Your your your flowers need 512 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: to be promoted, your brand needs to be That's what 513 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: I do, man. I do it with I do with 514 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: no there's no there's no check here. I do money 515 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: making conversations because I love the fact that you guys 516 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: are stars. You guys are the ones that are enabling 517 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: people like me, people like that Steve Harvey's like Steven A. Smith, 518 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: Anthony Anderson's I see what when I see look at 519 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: the image awards that the rise in the image reward 520 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: to me is tied to the same rise of the 521 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: A b FL. I just see it. I just see it, 522 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 1: and I just know that the gifts that y'all have. 523 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: Just let me know, if you, if you, if you 524 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: let me know. I mean, I'm a friend, dude, I 525 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: am your friend. And WoT man, I got to make 526 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: sure the man you know right here man she checked 527 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: be hard, he dud. Decade's not do decade now. But 528 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: before I go, I just want to talk about HBCUs 529 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: a little bit because HBC US because they've got a 530 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: lot of recognition of and a lot of people made 531 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: a lot of corporate donations and and and and people 532 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: are starting to recognize the academic achievements and success of 533 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: the graduates recognized right here. You're black CEO h c 534 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: The CEOs in the country are black. Come from h 535 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: b C U S HBCUs. That is you and at eighteen, 536 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: So telling the importance of that how I shaped your 537 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: life starting with you, Jeff and Nicole, you can wrap 538 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: it up and uh I want to thank you for 539 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: your time and allow me to speak to you, and 540 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: again send me those banners and just every quarter just 541 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: let me know because I'm here to support your brand 542 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: pretty will and just quickly you know. I think that 543 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: historically HBCUs have have been synonymous with most things black, 544 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: which is less thing. And but we all know the 545 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: those of us who attended HBCUs. If there's anything, there's 546 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 1: nothing less about the black experience for a black person. 547 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: In fact, nothing more empowering to walk around the campus, 548 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: whether at Alabama or un d C or or Maryland 549 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: anywhere then to see people like you that are educated, 550 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: that are diverse. So HBCUs kind of shape how we 551 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: view the world. And I haven't not met a person 552 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: who didn't feel the same way to some degree. So 553 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm just personally happy to see that. And I don't 554 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 1: care how we got here. I kind of know how 555 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: we got here, but it doesn't that. I'm just happy 556 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: to see that the world is starting to embrace the 557 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: importance the corporate world in the culture right because with 558 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: with embrace comes financial resources that allows us to build 559 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: and me better. I'm just happy that the world's kind 560 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: of catching up to what everybody, all the black alumni 561 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: knew already that these a magical places for young black 562 00:29:53,800 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: people to figure out and find out who they are. Yeah, 563 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: I would just concur with Jeff. I mean, if I 564 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: had to do it all over again, I absolutely would 565 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: attending Howard University. Were both Howard graduates. And I'll just 566 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: end on this note. Really ate you. You know half 567 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: the people might say something different now Hampton University than 568 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: that the I was saying that little argument there. But 569 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm talking to the fantastic is the Tiversitary. It's a 570 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: virtual event. Festival is free. November three, is premiering Will 571 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: Smith movie Keen Richards. You can check that out. A 572 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: hundred in two movies, twenty five talkies, thirty five countries 573 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: are participating. It's an event that it started way back 574 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: when eighteen and seven Acapulco. I know because I was 575 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: on the outside looking the end watching Robert Town's I 576 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: saw it in Jet Magazine. That's how I knew by 577 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: That's that's how on it was. I read about the 578 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: Jet magazine. See, Jeff, you know what I'm telling the truth. 579 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: You know I'm telling the truth. But I love I 580 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: love you Nicole, thank you for coming into my world. 581 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: You're fantastic and I'm glad to know that you guys 582 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: realize who I am as far as what I what 583 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: I want to bring to the table for your brand, 584 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: and it is your brand, and it's a wonderful brand. 585 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: And it's it's you know, sometimes you sit around Jeff 586 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: and Nicole and you think about something you don't really 587 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,239 Speaker 1: realize ten years or fifteen years. It's perfect. It's we 588 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: needed you to have that vision back in eighty seven, 589 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: otherwise we wouldn't have this today. 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