Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, welcome to the Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton Show. On this episode, Daniel Schmidt is with us.
Speaker 1: He is a conservative activist. He is a student going
Speaker 1: to be a junior at the University of Chicago and
Speaker 1: already making waves. I've seen him on Fox News, I've
Speaker 1: seen his pieces online. Daniel, great to have you on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for having me. How are you all right?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: It's been an interesting interesting time recently. You know, we
Speaker 1: had those Supreme Court decisions came down and it really
Speaker 1: put tremendous focus on admissions on college campuses. I know
Speaker 1: you haven't been able to hear from, say, the president
Speaker 1: of you Chicago, but as a current college student at
Speaker 1: an elite school, what do you think the response of
Speaker 1: the president the admissions committee you Chicago and other places
Speaker 1: like it is going to be to the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: decision that says it's kind of racist to do what
Speaker 1: they were doing.
Speaker 3: Well, it's actually really funny because the day of that announcement,
Speaker 3: my administration sent an email to every single student and
Speaker 3: the subject line was we care about diversity or something
Speaker 3: like that, and the whole email is basically like, we
Speaker 3: are troubled by these news and we're going to do
Speaker 3: everything we can to ensure diversity still remains a focus
Speaker 3: at our school. And I know Harvard sends some more emails.
Speaker 3: They all send some more emails, So you know, my
Speaker 3: prediction is they're just going to totally find loopholes. They're
Speaker 3: going to get rid of test scores.
Speaker 2: At my school.
Speaker 3: For example, the sat act is already test optional, and
Speaker 3: I think that's very deliberate. It's to place other emphasis
Speaker 3: on the essays, on the personality arts, which is totally subjective,
Speaker 3: and I think it's going to allow these emission officers, who,
Speaker 3: let's face our all liberal are all bleeding hearts, to
Speaker 3: allow more black kids in, more Hispanic kids in, and
Speaker 3: less white kids in, less Asian kids in. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm a lower middle class white kid, and something I
Speaker 3: always say is that I look around in my school
Speaker 3: and I have met very few middle class white kids.
Speaker 3: It's like a total shock. When I got to school,
Speaker 3: I found plenty of rich white kids, and I found
Speaker 3: plenty of rich black kids, but the class, the middle
Speaker 3: class whites. Those are the group. That's the group that's
Speaker 3: totally missing. And I mean, I hope there are more
Speaker 3: now because affirmative action is gone, but I'm not totally optimistic.
Speaker 3: I think these administrations are going to find loopholes because
Speaker 3: they're so dedicated to this religion of diversity.
Speaker 1: So you think they're probably gonna keep the numbers of
Speaker 1: preferred minority categories the same irrespective of this decision.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, because you know, it's how it's
Speaker 3: been for the past twenty years. And if they don't
Speaker 3: do it, they'll be called racist. And you know, it's
Speaker 3: so funny because the whole thing about affirmative action, and
Speaker 3: I'm not the first one to say this, but you
Speaker 3: know when they say, oh, you know, underprivileged people are
Speaker 3: getting in, I have not met a single black kid
Speaker 3: who's from like the ghetto or from the hood. These
Speaker 3: black kids, they come from school as, they come from
Speaker 3: boarding schools. They don't come from places where you know,
Speaker 3: there really are underprivileged people. So the whole thing about
Speaker 3: affirmative action is such a farce. But yeah, I think
Speaker 3: you're just gonna do other things to keep the numbers
Speaker 3: the same.
Speaker 1: How is it to be a an out and about
Speaker 1: conservative on the U Chicago campus these days. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was a college Republican at Amherst up in Massachusetts
Speaker 1: back in oh, god, now, early two thousands. So it's
Speaker 1: been twenty years. So tell me, Daniel, what's it like
Speaker 1: these days? I mean, are you do you feel like
Speaker 1: you're empowered in some sense because at least now with
Speaker 1: the Internet and with social media, you can share your
Speaker 1: voice more freely. Or what kind of concerns do you have?
Speaker 1: I mean, just what's it like bring us into the
Speaker 1: life of a campus conservative in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll give you a little bit of idea. So
Speaker 3: the first month I started college, you know, I'm a
Speaker 3: debate kid. I enjoy debate. I couldn't participate in a
Speaker 3: debate tournament because I'm white. That's not a joke. This
Speaker 3: debate tournament was only open to non white people. This
Speaker 3: is my first month in college, and so I kind
Speaker 3: of knew from that point, Okay, this is what the
Speaker 3: next four years are going to look like. And I
Speaker 3: had to do something about it. It had to speak up.
Speaker 3: And you're exactly right. The Internet, Twitter, specifically has really
Speaker 3: allowed this sort of new activism, journalism to happen. I
Speaker 3: don't know what I would do twenty years ago if
Speaker 3: the Internet didn't exist. I think I would who knows.
Speaker 3: I will say this though, Funnily enough, you know a
Speaker 3: lot of people expect me to be like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: I get attacked constantly, I get being up. Surprisingly, I've
Speaker 3: never had a single negative interaction of someone. I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's because they're scared of me or because
Speaker 3: they just don't care. You know, tons of talking on
Speaker 3: social media, tons of anonymous whispering, but I've never had
Speaker 3: anyone come up to me and been like, oh, you're evil,
Speaker 3: get out of here. So if any students are listening,
Speaker 3: you might be surprised that if you start speaking up
Speaker 3: and you're confident about it, you could actually get pretty far.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's funny because literally last week, The
Speaker 3: New York Times dropped like a hit piece on me,
Speaker 3: and I kind of knew from that point, Okay, I
Speaker 3: must be doing something. Okay if The New York Times
Speaker 3: is going after me because I'm literally just a nineteen
Speaker 3: year old kid, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, coody, you can't just skip over this.
Speaker 1: Probably the New York Times has done hit pieces on
Speaker 1: me too, my friends, so good job, welcome, welcome to
Speaker 1: the club. But I guess they're supposed to with me.
Speaker 1: I do a pretty big radio show, and some people
Speaker 1: in the movement know who I am. With you, your
Speaker 1: nineteen year old kid of me. You're already making splashes
Speaker 1: here you are on this podcast. What were they doing
Speaker 1: a hit piece on you? Though? Like? What did it say?
Speaker 1: What have you been up to?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So this all started a few months ago when I
Speaker 3: was registering for classes and I found this one class.
Speaker 3: It was called the Problem of Whiteness. And you know,
Speaker 3: as the title suggests, like what is this saying that
Speaker 3: there's a problem with white people or whiteness and that
Speaker 3: therefore there's a solution. I mean, can you imagine if
Speaker 3: there were a class problem of blackness, problem with any noess?
Speaker 3: I mean, it would be national outreach. So I saw
Speaker 3: this class, and you know, I used my Twitter account
Speaker 3: primarily to raise awareness of this stuff. So I wrote
Speaker 3: a thread about the class. I included the course description,
Speaker 3: which was calling whiteness like a problem with world making effects,
Speaker 3: and I noted the professor teaching it because I think
Speaker 3: it's cru sort to know who these people are. A
Speaker 3: few days later, this professor is calling me a cyber terrorist.
Speaker 3: She's saying my tweets may encourage an armed school shooter,
Speaker 3: and she is demanding my school expel me. She filed
Speaker 3: two separate complaints to get me expelled, saying I basically
Speaker 3: led some national harassment campaign against her. So that was
Speaker 3: all in the span of a few months. Things are quiet,
Speaker 3: and then go back just a few weeks ago, or
Speaker 3: actually two weeks ago, and out of nowhere, the New
Speaker 3: York Times dropped this article about me. They're calling me
Speaker 3: an instigator. They're basically criticizing my school, you Chicago, They're
Speaker 3: saying they should have punished me. And then just a
Speaker 3: few days after that, CNN drops an article written by
Speaker 3: some Obama spokesperson, former Obama spokesperson. She's saying I bully
Speaker 3: people in the silence. She's saying I should be expelled.
Speaker 3: I mean, it really is a national thing. So I
Speaker 3: was totally surprised by that, but I guess it means
Speaker 3: I must be doing something right.
Speaker 2: And this professor has just going after me NonStop.
Speaker 1: So you still have interactions with the professor.
Speaker 2: No, fortunately not.
Speaker 3: I'm a little scared because I don't want to be
Speaker 3: accused of stalking or get a restrained order.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're smart, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: You got you gotta. You always got to assume that
Speaker 1: the left. You can't even give any any daylight, any
Speaker 1: opening for them to do something nefarious, because I can
Speaker 1: assure you, Daniel, you know, I've got twenty years of
Speaker 1: experience dealing with this and they will, right, So if
Speaker 1: you open the door, they will. I want to come
Speaker 1: back here in a second. I did you actually take
Speaker 1: any of the classes in the Problem with Whiteness or
Speaker 1: do you just see the class description? Like did you
Speaker 1: show up an audit one?
Speaker 2: Well, I was.
Speaker 3: Going to, but then the class temp actually got temporarily
Speaker 3: postponed because I guess she got so many negative emails.
Speaker 3: She got scared. She demanded increase policing, she demanded this
Speaker 3: whole thing. And when the class was later taught in
Speaker 3: the spring, there was no way I'm gonna. I just
Speaker 3: didn't feel safe taking this class, Like is she going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course at that point. Yeah, I'd just be
Speaker 1: so curious. I'd be so curious to see it. I
Speaker 1: did take just so you know. It was gosh. Two
Speaker 1: thousand and three, I took a class in sociology, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, you're already dealing with sociology right, the American Right,
Speaker 1: it was called, and there were three conservatives in a
Speaker 1: class with I don't know, forty students in it or something,
Speaker 1: and it was the biggest caricature you'll be You'll not
Speaker 1: be shocked at all to know that the American Right
Speaker 1: in this Amherst College course was just about ignorance, racism,
Speaker 1: and sexism. That's it, That is the America. I was like, oh, wow, okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's a really, that's a really.
Speaker 3: I mean that was before Trump. When Trump came, I
Speaker 3: mean that totally changed everything. Now it's all about him
Speaker 3: and how he's racist, evil, So it's even worse now.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1: Let's let's I want to get to gender gender identity
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Speaker 1: All right, Daniel, do you have to put your pronouns
Speaker 1: and your email signatures at you? Chicago?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: What's it like these days?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, in many classes, the first day of class is
Speaker 3: always go around, say your name, say your pronouns, and
Speaker 3: really how a class. Yeah, and if you don't do it,
Speaker 3: you know, everyone already knows you're a conservative. So you know,
Speaker 3: it's been a rule for me never. I've never said
Speaker 3: anything like that so far, and I knew my first
Speaker 3: day going in everyone's already looking at me when I
Speaker 3: just say hey, my name's Daniel, and then there's silence afterward.
Speaker 3: They expected me to say whatever. So yeah, no, that's
Speaker 3: totally mandatory. And another thing that's just totally crazy that
Speaker 3: your listeners may be surprised by is these debate tournaments.
Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier how I couldn't participate in one because
Speaker 3: I'm white. It's not just that at the beginning of
Speaker 3: every round you have to say trigger warnings and if
Speaker 3: you don't you can actually lose around. I almost lost around.
Speaker 3: I don't do debate anymore because it's a joke. But
Speaker 3: when I was doing it initially, I almost lost the round.
Speaker 3: We were talking about like the Korean War or something
Speaker 3: I didn't give a trigger warning for, like war casualties,
Speaker 3: death destruction, and they SAIDY almost lost, So I mean,
Speaker 3: it is totally you know, you hear these stories and
Speaker 3: you assume it's exaggerated.
Speaker 2: It's not. It's really as bad as it seems.
Speaker 1: Wait, so it's it's mandatory to give a trigger warning
Speaker 1: in college debate. Now you and if you don't, you
Speaker 1: get puts off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you can lose the round because you know
Speaker 3: you're doing harm to people. It's I'm not exaggering about that.
Speaker 3: It's actually insane.
Speaker 1: I did. I did high school debate for a little bit,
Speaker 1: and and even then I felt like it was always
Speaker 1: very politicized, like if you were arguing, you'd have to
Speaker 1: argue both sides that right, was Lincoln Douglas style debate.
Speaker 1: But if they got the sense that you I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: if they got the sense of your politics, the judges
Speaker 1: you were, you were in bad shape, bad shape usually.
Speaker 1: So the gender politics stuff, do you have a lot
Speaker 1: of conversations on campus about, you know, should the transgender
Speaker 1: students use these bathrooms, those bathrooms, et cetera. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me think not really, you know, uh, we
Speaker 3: have frat, we have sororities.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard much about women trying to join or
Speaker 2: that's in that.
Speaker 3: Not really, I'm trying to think you know my schools,
Speaker 3: and I will say this, My school is like a
Speaker 3: very nerdy school.
Speaker 2: We're kind of known for like the nerdiness.
Speaker 3: So it is relatively apolitical, which I think is probably
Speaker 3: the reason why I have succeeded so much. I think
Speaker 3: if I went to like Yale or UC Berkeley, I
Speaker 3: would probably have been kicked out by now. So I
Speaker 3: do have to give credits to my school. But it's
Speaker 3: been pretty common that aspect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look that's a good thing. Sounds like you
Speaker 1: found a place where I mean, I say Amherst. When
Speaker 1: people would show up, it's all it was all Patagonia
Speaker 1: fleeces and people wearing sweats and playing soccer in the quad.
Speaker 1: And then when the parents would drop their kids off
Speaker 1: and go, it just turned into a Marxist indoctrination factory.
Speaker 1: Like everyone just all the professors. I found the one
Speaker 1: conservative political truly the sole conservative political science professor on
Speaker 1: the campus, Daniel, and he was it was so tense
Speaker 1: with his colleagues that they made him leave the political
Speaker 1: science It's building, Like there was a building where all
Speaker 1: the professors were co located for their offices, and he
Speaker 1: was with the admin of like the dean of housing
Speaker 1: and things like that, because he wasn't able to even
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Speaker 1: interviewed Tucker, right, you've done Fox. I mean, how did
Speaker 1: you get into this game? And also, are you an
Speaker 1: East Coast guy? You sound to me like you're an
Speaker 1: East Coast guy.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 3: I'm actually I'm actually from Tennessee, from just like a
Speaker 3: totally normal town.
Speaker 1: So no, well you're like my co host Clay, who's
Speaker 1: from Nashville and does not has no Southern accident whatsoever. None. Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so, So how'd you get into all this? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're a young guy. You're doing media,
Speaker 1: you know here you are. I mean, gosh, I was
Speaker 1: just trying to show up on time for my crappy
Speaker 1: sociology class when I was your age. So how'd you
Speaker 1: get into it?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: Listen, I mean I didn't have any grand plans. I
Speaker 3: still don't have some grand strategy. I kind of just
Speaker 3: you know, I call out what I think is wrong
Speaker 3: and I defend what I think is true. That's kind
Speaker 3: of been my guiding motto. And I started it when
Speaker 3: I when I got into college, and I've had a
Speaker 3: lot of success. And you know, you mentioned Tucker Carls
Speaker 3: and he reached out to me after I asked a
Speaker 3: question to an Applebaum.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're familiar for this. You know,
Speaker 2: total lib journalist.
Speaker 3: She came to my school and I asked her about
Speaker 3: Hunter Biden's laptop and her answer was like totally ridiculous.
Speaker 3: And the video clip got a lot of views, and
Speaker 3: I guess you saw it.
Speaker 1: I remember that. That's right. I should have endewed that.
Speaker 1: My friend. You had a viral moment just by asking.
Speaker 1: She's a historian slash lib who's written a lot of
Speaker 1: books about the Soviet Union and Ukraine, things like that. Stalin,
Speaker 1: and you asked about the Hunter Biden laptop at some
Speaker 1: form of Chicago and what did she say?
Speaker 3: Her answer was just literally like I don't care, Like
Speaker 3: that was totally here answer. And even the kids in
Speaker 3: the audience were looking at me like, what the heck
Speaker 3: did you just say? I mean, this was the biggest
Speaker 3: story of the time. I asked her, I said, do
Speaker 3: you think it was wrong that you claimed the story
Speaker 3: was rushing? This info turned out to be true. The
Speaker 3: New York Times confirmed that her answer was I don't care,
Speaker 3: and I you know, just the arrogance was just totally insane.
Speaker 3: Even David Axelrod, you know, Obama's chief strategist, was sitting
Speaker 3: next there.
Speaker 2: He couldn't believe it. He's like, Okay, well, need to
Speaker 2: shut it down now.
Speaker 3: So but but listen, even that example and out the examples.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know that it was going to be recorded.
Speaker 3: I didn't have any grand plans going in. I just
Speaker 3: did it because I got the mic and I was like,
Speaker 3: let me ask her this stuff. So, you know what
Speaker 3: I want to achieve in the next two years I'm
Speaker 3: in college. It's not it's not fame or anything like that.
Speaker 3: I just want to inspire other students to speak up
Speaker 3: to do something about it. Because I come from a
Speaker 3: single mother household. I don't come from any extraordinary backgrounds,
Speaker 3: and I've just been doing this and I've you know,
Speaker 3: now New York Times, I guess is attacking me, so
Speaker 3: I must be doing something right. So there are any
Speaker 3: other students listening in or just you know, hear about me,
Speaker 3: all I want to do is inspire them, show that
Speaker 3: you can actually achieve more than you think. And you
Speaker 3: know I've had you know, there is this policy on
Speaker 3: my school that banned unvaccinated students from dining halls. I
Speaker 3: pressed my administration. They reversed it. So just small things
Speaker 3: like that, you can actually make a bigger difference than
Speaker 3: you think, and you can also inspire other students around you,
Speaker 3: and before you know it, there's this like cascading effect
Speaker 3: where you actually may be surprised how many kids agree
Speaker 3: with you. So that's been my main goal is just
Speaker 3: sort of to inspire. But yeah, the Tucker interview was phenomenal.
Speaker 3: I'm blessed to have that opportunity.
Speaker 1: Have you had professors, even if just quietly and in
Speaker 1: back channel, reach out to you to support you and
Speaker 1: say they appreciate what you're doing. Have you been surprised
Speaker 1: at some of the support you've received from people in
Speaker 1: the administration, not publicly, but just to let you know
Speaker 1: that they think that you're taking an ethical approach, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have had a few professors. Actually a professor
Speaker 3: I had last quarter, I had no idea. He liked me,
Speaker 3: and then in the last day of class he was like, hey,
Speaker 3: I love what do you do it with that problem
Speaker 3: of whiteness class? I was like, really, I mean so again,
Speaker 3: I just want to stress, like you never know, well,
Speaker 3: like a lot of you know, there's this idea that
Speaker 3: these universities are just totally liberal dominated, and of course
Speaker 3: they are, but I think we've gotten to a point
Speaker 3: where it's so extreme that more and more kids are
Speaker 3: saying enough is enough. And if you take a stand,
Speaker 3: you'd be surprised how many professors, students, etc.
Speaker 2: Are actually wanting to agree with you.
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Speaker 1: on YouTube that I see they've I'm told they've got
Speaker 1: like a billion followers or something. Crazy, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know. Is it really YouTube and TikTok
Speaker 1: that just totally dominate the younger generation now, so like
Speaker 1: eighteen to eighteen to thirty basically, are you guys all
Speaker 1: just YouTube and TikTok all the time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it's actually TikTok. You know the
Speaker 3: app is. I mean, it's the number one app in
Speaker 3: the world. I think it has more trafficked than Google
Speaker 3: now if and I'm mistaken, So yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 3: really interesting because pretty much everyone my age is on TikTok.
Speaker 3: But I would say only maybe twenty to thirty percent
Speaker 3: of people my age are on Twitter, So I think
Speaker 3: Twitter is more for like the older crowd, the more
Speaker 3: educated crowd, if you are the people who really care
Speaker 3: about politics. But pretty much everyone my age is on TikTok,
Speaker 3: which is why super influential app. And if you have
Speaker 3: China involved, if you have these people pushing this stuff,
Speaker 3: you can you can influence the youth incredibly on TikTok,
Speaker 3: whereas Twitter, it's it's less on the youth and more
Speaker 3: on you know, political people and more older crowd, So
Speaker 3: you're gonna get TikTok growing.
Speaker 1: App Are you going to get into politics? Do you think
Speaker 1: when you graduate? I know you've got a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Is that the plan?
Speaker 3: You know? The way I see it is, I don't
Speaker 3: want to, like, if if I have a calling, I'll
Speaker 3: get into politics. I think the problem now is so
Speaker 3: many people just get into politics, you know, just for
Speaker 3: the fun of it or just because you know fame.
Speaker 3: But you know, I think one of the things I
Speaker 3: grew up with the Founding Fathers is only getting the politics.
Speaker 2: I feel like you need to.
Speaker 3: So if I get a calling, maybe, But I'm more
Speaker 3: interested in journalism, activism. I think that's where the real
Speaker 3: power is now is in media. I think you can
Speaker 3: really have you know, you can call it. The powerful
Speaker 3: people are there.
Speaker 1: Daniel Schmid, Daniel worship. People go to follow you, keep
Speaker 1: up with your work, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Sure, so you can see me on Twitter.
Speaker 3: That's where I post my activism, journalism, that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: It's at real d Schmidt. That's the word real, the
Speaker 3: letter D and then s c h M my DT.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. Everybody